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- 0:02Welcome back to Two Cents. We see Scary Movies, the podcast
- 0:05where we watch horror films and slowly realize the real villains
- 0:09might actually be us. Because when we keep watching
- 0:11movies like this, it signals maybe we should make more.
- 0:15This month's theme is Kills Like Teen Spirit, which means high
- 0:18school horror, questionable morals, and adults who
- 0:21absolutely do not think their choices through.
- 0:23I'm Talon, a person who watched this movie and kept asking,
- 0:26wait, why are we doing this? And with me, as always, it is
- 0:30Dan who watched Cherry Falls and responded by mentally filing
- 0:33complaints against half the cast.
- 0:35You're actually kind of accurate.
- 0:39That was my guess and we watched the same movie.
- 0:47Today's movie is Cherry Falls. Let's get into it before we get
- 0:55into it. Welcome to Season 2.
- 0:58We made it to a second season. Woo Hoo.
- 1:01Yeah, not without my own fuck ups.
- 1:03So the reason why we didn't have a November or December or
- 1:05January or February was mainly because of November, because we
- 1:08recorded an episode for, well, well, almost recorded an episode
- 1:12for November. We did the whole thing and I
- 1:14realized I forgot to press fucking record.
- 1:18This this can be filed underneath Lost media.
- 1:22Yeah, it's funny, when I opened Riverside, it's set up where it
- 1:25has each of our episodes and I have one the studio for it and
- 1:29it just says empty. I was like, damn, thanks for
- 1:36rubbing it in anyway. So then when we didn't record
- 1:41that, one realized also there were two Thursdays of that month
- 1:44because Thursdays only record that we weren't going to be able
- 1:46to do it anyway. One of them being Thanksgiving
- 1:48and one because I had to do something else.
- 1:50And that was like, well, November is a bust.
- 1:52And I was like, well, let's just put it off, take a break and
- 1:55we'll come back with the Season 2.
- 1:57But we were also busy. We're busy too.
- 1:59We're both, in case anybody cares and wants to know, we are
- 2:02both writing well. I've written a book, he's
- 2:04writing a book, and I've also been doing a bunch of other
- 2:07stuff. We have a website now if anybody
- 2:09wants to see it. It's two cents. scarymovies.com.
- 2:13I just learned about it, I already know what it is.
- 2:17So if you want to visit our website that would be fantastic,
- 2:21but it also has links to, well, it has links to my book and then
- 2:23it has a link, potential link to Dan's book when his is finished.
- 2:27Well, that's what I was going to ask is what, what what can they
- 2:30find on our our website links to our books, well, yours and then
- 2:35when mine if it comes out and then what else can they find on?
- 2:39Well, right now they can of course find our episodes.
- 2:41It's just it's for our episodes and a home that I will
- 2:44eventually expand on. But this is just the base for
- 2:47now. And then in my book, I wrote
- 2:48this book with my son, who is now 14, but we started it when
- 2:53he was 9 and working out for five years.
- 2:55And it's a technological horror called Friendos.
- 2:59And if anybody would like to go check it out, it's available on
- 3:02Amazon. Wow, Are you ready?
- 3:08For the movies, I don't know all.
- 3:12Right. Wasn't that one of wasn't that
- 3:14one of your tag lines for the book?
- 3:16Are you ready? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 3:18That what the heck was my typeline?
- 3:20I had to take a break because I was getting totally because I
- 3:23have a, you have the standard version of the book, but we are
- 3:26also coming out with an interactive version of the book,
- 3:29which if anybody out there is into AR GS, it should be a whole
- 3:32lot of fun. And we're working really hard on
- 3:34making it a very cool Arg so. Is is that like a new Choose
- 3:38your Own Adventure sort of book? Remember those I loved?
- 3:41Those, I loved those. I loved those as a kid.
- 3:46No, it's not really a choose your own adventure, sure, but
- 3:48you can do a whole lot of stuff. There's websites and all kinds
- 3:51of crazy codes and stuff that you gotta figure out and secret
- 3:54pictures and secret videos and all kinds of fun stuff.
- 3:58Anyway, all right, so we can get into this movie I guess, right?
- 4:04Yeah. All right, let's get into it.
- 4:09So the movie opens with a teenage guy, Rod, and a girl,
- 4:12Stacy, and they're parked in a car in the middle of the woods.
- 4:14They're making out. The guy starts rambling about
- 4:17celestial beings and ancestors and some weird cosmic excuse for
- 4:22why they should be having sex, right?
- 4:25It's an interesting tactic, I guess.
- 4:27I mean guys always come up with weird shit and that was probably
- 4:30takes the cake. Right.
- 4:31Yeah. Although there is something that
- 4:33comes up in just a second that I'm guessing he really is into
- 4:36it. So he decides he's going to make
- 4:39his move and he's unsuccessful at it.
- 4:41It pisses Stacy off. She scratches his face.
- 4:44I mean she really like reacting. Oh yeah, A.
- 4:47Little. Extremely.
- 4:50It was a situation where he was not really trying to force
- 4:52himself. No, no, he was just, you know,
- 4:55trying to make his move. And she was like, absolutely
- 4:58fucking not scratch, right? So yeah.
- 5:01So after that, she gets out of the car, she's upset.
- 5:05And then she basically tells him if you keep this up, you're
- 5:07getting nothing. So he follows her out.
- 5:09He's, you know, whispers some sweet nothings in her ear about
- 5:12how he wants his first time to be with her.
- 5:14And she's like, aw, shucks. And she eventually gets the only
- 5:17gets back in the. Because.
- 5:18Because that line always. Always.
- 5:21So that's when we see another vehicle that has been sitting in
- 5:24the woods, then drives up behind the car, headlights blaring, and
- 5:29it focuses on the back of Rod's car and the license plate says
- 5:33Sup Nova. Now I'm not.
- 5:35I don't think he's saying like, what's up Nova, right?
- 5:38I think it's up for Supernova. His car wasn't a Nova either.
- 5:43So because he wasn't driving a Nova but he was talking about
- 5:46all that celestial shit, I think he's actually just committed to
- 5:49this celestial theme. Like he's really into the stars.
- 5:53And it wasn't just him trying to get her pants, although I think
- 5:56it helped. Or he thought so Ron, they're
- 6:01like, what the hell is this? So Ron gets out of the car to
- 6:03see what's going on. He starts calling out names like
- 6:05Ben and Mark, thinking maybe it's one of his friends messing
- 6:07with him. But as he gets closer to the
- 6:08car, he sees it's there's someone sitting in the car with
- 6:10this long, scraggly dark hair that he doesn't recognize.
- 6:14And he's like, what the heck. But before he can really, truly
- 6:16react, the door swings open, knocks him down.
- 6:19The driver gets out and immediately starts attacking him
- 6:22with a knife and just stabbed frantically like crazy.
- 6:25I don't know how he survived that because it was a lot of
- 6:28stabbing. Back inside the car, Stacy is
- 6:31screaming his name, Rod, Rod, Rod.
- 6:33And she's freaking out. So she decides to lock the doors
- 6:35because obviously, she probably just assumes Rod's a Garner.
- 6:39Why not lock the doors? Don't help him.
- 6:42Right. And and let's and let's add that
- 6:44these were like cars that did not have electric locks.
- 6:48Yeah, it was an old car. It was.
- 6:51Push button knots, yeah. And it also looked like they had
- 6:54the roll down windows. Yep.
- 6:57Yeah, they did. So she locks the doors, and then
- 7:00you can hear Rod as he's he's crawling, obviously, because you
- 7:03can't see him. But he's gotten closer to the
- 7:05car and he's moaning and groaning.
- 7:07You can tell he's badly hurt. He's calling out her name.
- 7:09After some hesitation, she decides to unlock the door.
- 7:12And I'm like woman. Yeah, no, he's already gone.
- 7:16He's dead. Lock that damn door.
- 7:18What are you doing? So she unlocks it to help him.
- 7:20And as soon as she does and he starts to crawl up into the car,
- 7:23the attacker returns, stabs him again in the back, pulls him
- 7:26out. Then he starts just wildly
- 7:29swinging this knife inside the car.
- 7:31And I'm assuming he's probably slashing up her legs and stuff,
- 7:33but she's her back's up against her door and she's like trying
- 7:36to kick at him and, you know, do all this stuff.
- 7:38And then they are slashing at her.
- 7:41So then she opens up her door, gets out, the person runs
- 7:44around, grabs her, throws her up against a tree, basically rubs a
- 7:49knife across her face, rubs blood on her lips, and then
- 7:53moves in like they're going to kiss her, which you're assuming
- 7:55is what happens. And then it fades out and it's
- 7:58the end of the opening scene. And welcome to Cherry Falls.
- 8:01Yay. It's a very good opening.
- 8:03Welcome. Yeah, it's warm and friendly.
- 8:06You need something to hook them in When we cut to our main
- 8:10character, Jodi Markham, who's portrayed by Brittany Murphy,
- 8:13sitting in a car with her boyfriend Kenny, and they're
- 8:15parked right outside her parents house.
- 8:16It's night time, it's late, they're making out.
- 8:19Thanks for getting all hot and heavy.
- 8:20And Kenny keeps trying to push things further.
- 8:22Jodi shuts him down, reminding him that she's already 15
- 8:25minutes late, 15 minutes past curfew.
- 8:27Kenny makes a side comment about how 6th graders are allowed to
- 8:31stay alert and she is. He then mutters and this.
- 8:33OK, so this show, I watched it on whatever it was something and
- 8:38it did not have captions. I don't know where you watched
- 8:41it and if you looked at captions, but it did not have
- 8:43captions when I watched when I watched it.
- 8:45So he said something that I, I rewound it several times to try
- 8:50to understand what he was saying because I didn't have the
- 8:52captions to back it up. But it was something along the
- 8:55lines, because I still don't know what he said exactly, but
- 8:57it was something along the lines of guys can die if they stay a
- 9:01virgin or something like that. Yeah.
- 9:04Yeah. And Jodie fires back.
- 9:06Yeah, that's right up there with global warming.
- 9:07And then that's when Kenny suddenly he sits up and he
- 9:10decides they should break up because, you know, yeah, it's
- 9:13we've been dating for a year. I've got nothing.
- 9:15We need to break up, right? Comes off as a complete.
- 9:17Insult it it it's time. Right.
- 9:20Put up or shut up? Right.
- 9:22So now Jody's confused and upset.
- 9:25And then while they're having this little conversation that's
- 9:27a group arguing about the breakup or whatever, you can see
- 9:30headlights pulling up behind them.
- 9:32And for a second it feels like it's going to be the opening
- 9:35scene all over again. But it's not.
- 9:36It's Jody's mom, Pam Markham. And then we go into this weird
- 9:41exchange between Pam and Kenny right in front of Jody.
- 9:45Yeah, it was very predatory, It was.
- 9:48So weird. I was like, what?
- 9:50So it's it's it's some really awkward, uncomfortable flirting
- 9:53going on. So Pam bums a cigarette from
- 9:55Kenny, mentions that her husband doesn't let her smoke in the
- 9:57house and calls this her one guilty pleasure, which I highly
- 10:01question. I'm pretty sure she has other
- 10:04guilty pleasures. Oh yeah.
- 10:07Oh yeah, definitely. If her dad is still up and Pam
- 10:10looks up at the house and she says the coast is clear, but you
- 10:12might want to get up there quick.
- 10:13There's this exchange. But then Kenny looks at her, the
- 10:17mom and says, Miss Markham, your headlights are on.
- 10:20It's. So fucking weird.
- 10:22And it's obviously meant to be this kind of double entendre
- 10:25like her. And right, it's on her car on,
- 10:27but her headlights are on, you know, whatever.
- 10:29Right, Right. Right.
- 10:30And then of course. Yeah.
- 10:31So and then she's like, she compliments him on being
- 10:33observant. And oh, how observant.
- 10:36Right. So there's a lot of this in this
- 10:39movie. There's a lot of sexual innuendo
- 10:41that goes absolutely nowhere to, by the way.
- 10:44But then The thing is, it was right in front of her daughter.
- 10:47Yes, it was very weird. There's a bunch of this and
- 10:49there's one that's really, really, really super crunch
- 10:53later on that we get to that is this weird sexual thing that I
- 10:58don't know. It's just weird.
- 10:59I don't know why it's in there. OK, so before Jody gets out, she
- 11:02asks Kenny, is this goodbye or goodnight?
- 11:04Kenny replies. I think that's up to you.
- 11:06Which basically translate to if you sleep with me it's good
- 11:09night, if you don't, it's goodbye.
- 11:11Right. Right.
- 11:12Jenny then sneaks into her house while her mom stays outside
- 11:15smoking. And so she tells her, you know,
- 11:17quietly go upstairs. It looked like mom was drunk.
- 11:20You know, she, she the way she was talking, she, she was drunk
- 11:22and stuff. When Jodie finally gets to her
- 11:24room, her dad is already there waiting for her.
- 11:26He immediately starts telling about her being late and grounds
- 11:28her for the next two Fridays. She throws the what Kenny said
- 11:31back at him about, you know, 6th graders are able to stay out
- 11:34later than she can. And he fires back with something
- 11:37along the lines of, well, not every 6th grader is the
- 11:39sheriff's daughter or something like that.
- 11:41So this is where we find out that her dad is the sheriff.
- 11:43Then we have a weird scene that I was like, what is happening
- 11:47here? So can we go to the scene?
- 11:49Jodie is asleep. You see the clock, It's 3:30 in
- 11:51the morning. You hear a phone ring in the
- 11:53other room. You hear the dad answer.
- 11:55Sheriff Markham. He says, OK, I'll be down there
- 11:58as soon as I can. Now that part makes sense.
- 12:00It's clearly setting up what's coming next because those they
- 12:03found the bodies. He's got to go and see what's
- 12:05going on at the crime scene. But this is when it gets weird
- 12:08and then all of a sudden you see this hand come on to the screen
- 12:11and it's sticking straight out. So I'm like, is she
- 12:15sleepwalking? Because you know how when they
- 12:16make fun of sleepwalkers, they put their hands, arms straight
- 12:19out, whatever, like a mummy. So her hands straight out.
- 12:23And then she pushes back her curtains really slowly and you
- 12:26can see her dad, you know, leaving in his police car.
- 12:29And then you see her. And I was like, her eyes looked
- 12:32closed and I was like, she is sleepwalking.
- 12:34I was like but I couldn't tell her she was actually
- 12:38sleepwalking or maybe she was. She kept her head straight but
- 12:41just kept her eyes pointed down and it made her eyes look like
- 12:43they were closed. But then she slowly turns her
- 12:46head towards the viewer or the camera eyes are closed and then
- 12:50she Oh no, wait a minute, she does say Daddy.
- 12:57Yeah. Weirdness.
- 12:59She turns her head, looks at the camera, opens her eyes,
- 13:02basically breaks the 4th wall because she's looking right at
- 13:05the camera and then it cuts away.
- 13:07I'm like what the fuck was that for?
- 13:09What was that all about? Why do we, why don't we set it
- 13:11up like she's sleepwalking and then.
- 13:13What is that the way the way this director and the writers
- 13:18did this, Like I really questioning their intentions
- 13:22towards young girls because there's some really awkwardness
- 13:28in this movie, Yes. It's I should have looked to see
- 13:30what year it was. I I feel like I know it was a
- 13:322000 something but. Yeah, it was 2000 and two or
- 13:36three I think. Yeah, so, but I was like, what
- 13:39the fuck is this shit? I guess she goes back to bed.
- 13:43I don't know. Her dad, of course, drove away.
- 13:44Actually, it was 1999. OK, so now her dad is responding
- 13:48to the crime, but this is the part that I thought was weird
- 13:51too, because now it's morning. Now he left at 3:30 in the
- 13:54morning. I don't know how big his fucking
- 13:57jurisdiction is, but it's got to be the size of Texas because now
- 14:00the sun's up. I'm like, how long did it take
- 14:02him to fucking get to this crime scene?
- 14:04Because it was 3:30 in the morning.
- 14:06It was dark. It's night time, middle of the
- 14:08night, but it's daylight when he gets to the crime scene.
- 14:11I was like OK that's weird he just has a big jurisdiction I
- 14:14guess. So when he arrives one of his
- 14:16death deputies is already there. And this deputy, she seems to be
- 14:19his right hand girl because she's with him all the time.
- 14:23She explains what they found. The boy Rod was discovered face
- 14:26down in the water near waterfall and river.
- 14:28He had multiple stab wounds. The girl Stacy, she was found
- 14:32and they show her she's positioned between 2 trees and
- 14:35one of her arms is raised up and nailed to the tree and there's a
- 14:39large amount of blood pooled beneath her which tells them
- 14:42that what had occurred occurred while she was still alive.
- 14:45So they were bothered by that. Then we cut back to Jodie.
- 14:48She's getting ready for school. She heads out the door at some
- 14:50point she ends up walking up the steps of her school and her best
- 14:54friend Timmy shows up and he writes some kind of gossip
- 14:56column for a, an actual paper paper, I think not just like a
- 15:00school paper. He's a really fast talker.
- 15:02He uses a lot of rapid fire slang.
- 15:03And immediately, soon she knows what's going on.
- 15:06So he's tells her he needs all the deeds from her dad even and
- 15:09even offers her a byline. So it looked good on her college
- 15:12app locations. She has no idea what he's
- 15:14talking about. So he's like, what, You haven't
- 15:16heard about Ron Stacey? And he tells her that you're
- 15:19dead. And he tells her that they're
- 15:21dead in like 10 different ways, right?
- 15:24Like every puzzle. But you can say dead does it.
- 15:28So then he tells her to look around.
- 15:29So she starts looking around and she notices that everybody's sad
- 15:32and holding on to each other and comforting each other.
- 15:34And then he points her head towards Kenny, who is now
- 15:37comforting some other girl already.
- 15:40So then Timmy runs off into the school and Jody's just standing
- 15:42there staring at Kenny. So then we have a scene where
- 15:45we're in the principal's office, and this is where, again, it's
- 15:49leaning into the sultry sexy looks and suggestive smiles and
- 15:53whatever. So the secretary walks in and
- 15:57tells the principal that Sheriff Markham is there.
- 15:59And the principal, who is Tom, smiles like he's oddly pleased
- 16:03in a special kind of way, and then tells her to send him in.
- 16:07And when the sheriff comes in, she's still hanging out in the
- 16:09doorway, but she's giving him these sexy eyes.
- 16:12And nothing comes of this. It's just something they decided
- 16:15to put in there for no reason whatsoever because we don't see
- 16:18those two hook up later. We never see her again, right?
- 16:21It's nothing. It's list.
- 16:22The sheriff and the principal are talking and when they first
- 16:25initially see each other, Tom is the principal.
- 16:27He's like, oh, it's been a while.
- 16:29And I'm like, why has it been a while?
- 16:31I mean, you're the principal and he's the sheriff.
- 16:34You guys are both the heads of something in this town.
- 16:36And they give off the feeling. Yeah, they give off this feeling
- 16:40like it's a small town, but they and his daughter goes to school
- 16:43there. Like, how?
- 16:43How have they not seen each other?
- 16:45I don't know. It.
- 16:46It was weird. Oh, and Cherry Falls, by the
- 16:47way, is just outside of Richmond, VA, but it is still
- 16:50portrayed as though it's a small town.
- 16:52And there's something later that signifies how small it is
- 16:55actually for being just outside of Richmond.
- 16:57So anyway, they talk. Tom's saying a whole bunch of
- 16:59shit about how the cast the classes are canceled but all the
- 17:02kids are still at school. They stay there.
- 17:04Yeah, that that makes no sense. Right.
- 17:06And then he's asking the teachers to be there and talk to
- 17:09the students to help them process what happens.
- 17:11And the sheriff doesn't care. He's like, I just want to talk
- 17:13to the students who knew Ron Stacy?
- 17:15I want to go to their classes. So then we go to the English
- 17:19class, and this is where we get an introduction to a vast
- 17:21majority of the characters in this movie.
- 17:23The teacher, Mr. Marleston, who is played by Jay Moore, is
- 17:26sitting on his desk trying to have an open discussion about
- 17:28what happened. He says some students might feel
- 17:30upset, others might not. One girl breaks down crying
- 17:32because years earlier, in like, the 8th grade, she told Rod to
- 17:35go away, and she hopes he dies. And now she feels guilty.
- 17:38So. And then some of the kids
- 17:40snicker and then the teacher shuts that down.
- 17:42But in this scene, this is where we meet.
- 17:44Of course, we have Jodie. She's in this class.
- 17:46Her friend looks like probably one of her closest friends,
- 17:48Sandy, who's sitting right next to her.
- 17:50Then we have Mark, who we find out was a close friend of Rods.
- 17:54And he is seems like he's high all the time.
- 17:57He was kind of adult. And then Ben, who is Mark's
- 18:00sarcastic bestie. There's this other girl, Cindy,
- 18:02and she's like one of the popular girls.
- 18:04She makes a comment about how she wants to see this guy fried
- 18:07in an electric chair, and JD Qualls is in it, and he's like
- 18:11kind of a nerdy kid. But there's a lot of people in
- 18:14this movie that I was surprised to see in this movie because
- 18:17even the sheriff, the sheriff is played by Michael Bain.
- 18:19And I was like, I mean, granted, he hasn't done much high profile
- 18:23shit since Terminator, but still.
- 18:25I was like, wow, all these people are in this movie.
- 18:28Interesting. How'd this happen?
- 18:29So they're discussing and then the sheriff comes in with the
- 18:32principal. He just basically says, if
- 18:34anybody knows anything, let us know.
- 18:36Then we go to lunch. So at lunch, Jody and Sandy are
- 18:39sitting together and they're watching Kenny with another
- 18:41girl. Sandy has a crush on Mark who
- 18:44And she's watching him eat and he's eating like an idiot.
- 18:47He's like all bent over his bowl of chips and just putting his
- 18:50face in it and picking the chips up with his tongue and she's
- 18:53mesmerized. So, Sandy.
- 18:55Well, it's sexy. Yeah, so Jodie, of course,
- 18:58notices that she's staring at him and she's like, you've been
- 19:00staring at him all year, let's just go over there and talk to
- 19:02him. And she's reluctant and she
- 19:03doesn't want to do it, but she convinces her and forces her to
- 19:05go. So they go sit down with Mark
- 19:07and Ben at their table, and they're just chit chatting and
- 19:10having casual conversation when all of a sudden some girl comes
- 19:13storming into the cafeteria, finds this other guy, starts
- 19:17yelling and screaming at him and hitting him and all this stuff.
- 19:20And her name is Annette, and Annette is pissed off at this
- 19:22guy because this guy is telling everybody in the school that she
- 19:25gave him a Hummer. Yeah.
- 19:27And he's like, that's a compliment if a guy tells you
- 19:29that, right? Yeah, 'cause like, you're good
- 19:32or something. Yeah.
- 19:33Yeah. So then the principal and Mr.
- 19:36Marlston, the English teacher, break it up.
- 19:38The principal takes Annette to the office.
- 19:39And then we just have a quick shot where Jodi asks the others
- 19:43at the table what's going on. And Ben says, you know, tells
- 19:47her that the Hummer thing. And she's like, oh, do you think
- 19:50she really did it? And Ben says something along the
- 19:52lines like she's no, she thinks fellatio is a Shakespeare
- 19:55character. Then we get this quick shot of
- 20:02someone's hands with red fingernails sharpening knives,
- 20:05and this is just a foreshadowing shot.
- 20:07It lasts only a few seconds. But and and let's let's comment
- 20:11on the fact that the hands did not look feminine.
- 20:14Right. Yeah, they were lighter,
- 20:17heavier, feminine. Yes, the nails made it.
- 20:20The tips of the fingers look feminine, the rest, not so much.
- 20:24Then we go to Annette's house and her parents are heading out
- 20:27for the night. Someone with long dark hair is
- 20:29watching from outside in their car.
- 20:31The parents leave, they go. We see a scene for no reason of
- 20:34them, like we need to know where they're going.
- 20:36They go to a bar and like, like we need to know this.
- 20:38And then all of a sudden you're inside the house.
- 20:41There's a knock at the door. Annette goes to the door.
- 20:43She has it locked with a chain. Annette's like, hello, who is
- 20:48it? And the person claims to be her
- 20:50mother's friend. She gives the name Laura Lee
- 20:52Sherman. She's like, you know, oh, you're
- 20:53and she's like, oh, my mom's not here.
- 20:55She went out and Laura Lee's like, oh, it must have been some
- 20:57misunderstanding. She's like, can I just leave her
- 20:58a note? And you can tell the whole time
- 21:00Annette's a little apprehensive, but then she's like, oh, well,
- 21:03it's just some lady. It it'll probably fine.
- 21:05She opens the door dumb. And as soon as she opens the
- 21:08door, because this person attacks immediately like they
- 21:11attacked Rod immediately as soon as they got.
- 21:15Yeah, there's no weeding. Yeah, there's no surprise.
- 21:18And then a reaction. I mean, she opens that door and
- 21:21she just starts slamming the door on Annette's head.
- 21:25Just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
- 21:26And then we cut to the parents showing up the house, obviously
- 21:30very drunk. Like they are so drunk, their
- 21:33cars swerving as they're pulling up.
- 21:34They're barely getting up the steps to the front door.
- 21:37But then they notice the door is open, so they go in.
- 21:40They're like Annette, Annette. They start to sober up pretty
- 21:42quickly when they realize that there's something wrong.
- 21:44And then the mom into a room, it's blood everywhere and she
- 21:47screams. So then.
- 21:50And let's just, well, let's just point out the fact that Annette
- 21:53had about like 4 seconds of screen time.
- 21:56Yeah. It was like one of those
- 21:57characters that came in and left.
- 22:00And there's no reason why they should have done that.
- 22:02You know, they could have used another character that was in
- 22:05the movie a little longer, right?
- 22:07You know, to give it some sort of.
- 22:10But her only set up was the fight in the cafeteria.
- 22:13Yeah, and then it immediately goes to her murder.
- 22:15Yeah. And and that was and that was
- 22:17it. Like it?
- 22:18Yeah, it wasn't like a main character.
- 22:20It cuts to this really strange scene where the sheriff is
- 22:24showing showing Jodi's self-defense moves.
- 22:26He shows her a maneuver, she tries it on him.
- 22:29They get tangled up and she falls and he falls directly on
- 22:33top of her. And they just kind of stare at
- 22:35each other really close and super in a super uncomfortable
- 22:38way that no daughter, their father should be looking at each
- 22:41other right position because she's locked her on the floor on
- 22:45her back. And he's it's almost like when
- 22:48you have two people who are actually a couple or almost a
- 22:51couple, like they're flirting around and they are goofing off
- 22:54and they fall down and the guy falls on top of the girl and
- 22:57they're really close. And then they and then they kiss
- 23:00because of the situation. That's exactly like it was.
- 23:04And it was like, why are they doing this?
- 23:06Why are we doing this at all? This is so weird but thank God
- 23:10we are saved by the bell because the phone rings.
- 23:12Phew. So he hops up and then she lays
- 23:15there and they show her and she kind of looks almost
- 23:17disappointed. I'm like what the fuck?
- 23:22It's so weird. So the sheriff gets the call
- 23:24about Annette's murder and immediately leaves.
- 23:26When he arrives at the house, we finally get to see Annette's
- 23:29body. She's been tied up to some sort
- 23:31of wagon wheel that's mounted on the ceiling.
- 23:33The FBI is there and they start talking about similarities,
- 23:36similarities between this murder and the earlier one with Robin,
- 23:39Rod and Stacy. So then the next scene, we see
- 23:42the sheriff and his deputy. They're at the morgue and
- 23:44they're talking to the medical examiner and he explains that
- 23:46the word virgin was carved into the inside of the thighs of all
- 23:50three victims, Rod and Stacy, as well well as a net and he
- 23:53confirms that both girls were actually virgins.
- 23:56He says he can't of course be certain about Rod because you
- 23:59can't tell the guy right? He didn't but none of them
- 24:01engaged in any sex prior to being killed.
- 24:04She. Hasn't had sex recently.
- 24:05Right. Yeah.
- 24:06So he points out that whoever is doing this somehow knows who is
- 24:11and isn't a virgin, which means they have a very specific method
- 24:15of choosing their victims, and they're good.
- 24:17At it, apparently. And I also have to point out the
- 24:19fact that I think I've heard the, I heard the word hymen more
- 24:22in this scene than I have my entire life, right.
- 24:25Yeah, in this whole movie, because they talk about later
- 24:28on, they say Stacy says it's a Hyman Holocaust.
- 24:33Right. Yeah.
- 24:34So yeah, they say hymen a lot. Then once he realizes that
- 24:37virgins are being murdered, the sheriff decides to go home.
- 24:41And he goes into Jody's room, and she's in bed asleep.
- 24:44And he wakes her up. And he, in a awkward, roundabout
- 24:47way, basically asks her if she's still a virgin.
- 24:50And she says yes, of course. And he kind of pauses and has a
- 24:54face. And so she then she asks him if
- 24:57he's disappointed that she's searching.
- 24:59I laughed so hard. That part, I was like, what?
- 25:02OK, So he says no, of course not.
- 25:04You're still my little girl. Which OK, Still, yeah.
- 25:08Yeah, very weird. So then the sheriff is talking
- 25:13to his deputy. It's like the next day.
- 25:15I guess the time in this movie is weird.
- 25:18So the sheriff is. Then we see him talking to his
- 25:21deputy. He tells her he wants to call a
- 25:22town meeting for all the parents but no kids and have it at the
- 25:25school gym. She questions whether it's smart
- 25:27to reveal the killer's signature, because then it makes
- 25:29it hard to figure out, because if people know what the
- 25:32signature is, you could have copycats or whatever, or people
- 25:34will know and you can't discern. He was who?
- 25:36He decides we're going to tell them anyway, specifically that
- 25:39virgin children are being targeted.
- 25:40Then we go back to the school where Jodie goes into her
- 25:43English class and school's over, and so she goes to the English
- 25:46classroom to hand in a paper that apparently she could not
- 25:49hand in during class. I don't know why She and her
- 25:51teacher, Mr. Marleston, have this really uncomfortable flirty
- 25:54exchange. They recite anyway, some poet.
- 25:59I want to say Emerson, but it's not TS Eliot.
- 26:01So they recite TS Eliot, she starts, and then he joins in and
- 26:04they recite it together at the same time.
- 26:06It was very weirdly romantic. It was.
- 26:11So while they're talking, Jodi looks over the door.
- 26:15Teachers like what? And she's like, I think I saw
- 26:16someone in the hallway. She runs to go follow.
- 26:19And he's like, no, no, no. So they walk together.
- 26:22At some point, they start holding hands.
- 26:25Why? Why, Why wait?
- 26:26Why? Like, why are we doing this?
- 26:29But it was like off and on. Like they would hold hands and
- 26:31they would stop and they would hold hands and then they would
- 26:32stop. They end up walking through the
- 26:34halls and down into the cafeteria.
- 26:36The cafeteria, of course, lights are off, but there's still some
- 26:39light coming in from the windows.
- 26:40He tells her to stay put. He walks further into the
- 26:43cafeteria. He finds a crushed out
- 26:46cigarette. And then he picks it up and then
- 26:48he tosses it. And when he tosses it, it hits a
- 26:51boot and there's obviously someone wearing this boot, and
- 26:56the boot has a marking on it on the outer toe area near the
- 26:59pinky, and it's a big boot. And it had like this, these 4
- 27:04squares that were white and they were together in a way that
- 27:07looked like a diamond, but they were four individual squares.
- 27:09So it's very distinctive. And they made sure they pointed
- 27:12it out. He doesn't look any further.
- 27:13He goes back to where Jodie's standing and they walk out of
- 27:16the room and then they show another shot of the boot and the
- 27:18boot moves. So that way, you know, there's
- 27:20somebody actually in the boot. Then they go out in the hallway
- 27:22and he's like, well, I gotta go to this meeting your dad's
- 27:24having. And she then is like, can we
- 27:27talk again? And he's like, yeah, of course.
- 27:30And she's like, no, just the two of us.
- 27:35And he, he gets a little awkward.
- 27:37Like, you can tell he knows it's kind of awkward.
- 27:39And he kind of turns and he fumbles around with his hands.
- 27:41He's like, yeah, yeah, that's fine.
- 27:42That's OK. Sure.
- 27:43So he's like, now you just go, go on home.
- 27:45And so she runs off. Then we see the parents are
- 27:48filing into the high school gym. And this is where it really
- 27:51feels like Cherry Falls is not a big town because all of these
- 27:54parents fit into one section of bleachers on one side of the
- 27:58gym. It's not like they're filling up
- 28:00the whole gym with tons of seats.
- 28:01So it's not a big town. So the principal, Tom, as the
- 28:05people are filing in, he goes up to the sheriff and he tells him
- 28:08you can't seriously tell these parents that a killer is
- 28:11targeting virgins. And he says, you know.
- 28:13Weird. He says the sheriff, you know,
- 28:18you as a sheriff, you have responsibilities.
- 28:20And the sheriff snaps back and says they both know what it's
- 28:23like to walk away from responsibilities.
- 28:25Very clear foreshadowing, right? But I also want to say that is
- 28:30this really a conversation you should have in the high school
- 28:33gym? And they're and they're not.
- 28:35Oh, the whole, the whole, the whole thing or the conversation
- 28:38is between the principal and and and the sheriff.
- 28:40The the whole thing. Well, the whole thing, Yeah,
- 28:42yeah, yeah. You know, like, I feel like this
- 28:44would be like a town hall sort of meeting.
- 28:47Or I mean, unless like the town is so small that they don't have
- 28:51a Community Center that they have to use the gym for
- 28:53everything. Yeah, they must, I guess because
- 28:56originally the deputy was like, we don't have a facility big
- 28:59enough to hold the whole town and he was like, well it's just
- 29:03going to be parents for one and we'll just do it in the gym.
- 29:07And it's obviously not a big town.
- 29:09Like even though it took him 3 hours to get to the crime scene,
- 29:11but whatever. So.
- 29:13And he hasn't seen the principal in years, apparently.
- 29:18So. So then he's basically says,
- 29:22fuck off to the principal. I've got to do this.
- 29:25We got to let him know it's dire.
- 29:27Oh, the principal does say if you tell the parents that
- 29:29they're killing virgins, we're going to have a fuck fest on our
- 29:32hands. So about the chaos that's going
- 29:37to erupt and that it's going to be panic.
- 29:40And the sheriff says it's The sheriff says that's better than
- 29:43a pile of dead teenagers. Yeah, like they're encouraging
- 29:47like, a sex party for the teenagers, like, right.
- 29:50What the hell? And later on he, there's another
- 29:53scene where he, you can tell he very much does not care that
- 29:55there's going to be a giant sex party or that there could be a
- 29:57giant sex party. I'm getting ahead of myself.
- 29:59So now we see Jodie who is upstairs.
- 30:01So the gymnasium is, you know, it's a big gym and of course
- 30:04it's high. So it's takes up two floors and
- 30:07on the outer part of the gymnasium that the upper floors
- 30:10are there and there's windows that aren't really windows.
- 30:13They just have these grates or whatever in front of them.
- 30:15So Jodie's upstairs looking down through this grated window that
- 30:18overlooks the gym. And Timmy shows up and surprises
- 30:21her. And she's like, what are you
- 30:22doing here? He's like, I got to get the
- 30:23scoop. They're watching as the sheriff
- 30:24announces that all the victims were virgins.
- 30:26And so parents are starting to question.
- 30:28One parent asks, am I supposed to just lock my daughter in the
- 30:31basement? And another parent makes a
- 30:32comment about, oh, you don't have to worry about your
- 30:34daughter. Yeah, you know, and so the first
- 30:39parents, like, what is that supposed to mean?
- 30:41And he gets up and this whole brawl takes place.
- 30:43So there's this all this chaos, all the parents are fighting.
- 30:46And the entire meeting just devolves into parents yelling
- 30:48and screaming. And the sheriff just stands
- 30:50there, does nothing like let's it just go on.
- 30:54Doesn't even try to calm it down.
- 30:56No, no. Hey, let's get you know, Yeah.
- 30:59So he's not very effective. No, he just stands there like a
- 31:02doofus. So of course Timmy's like all
- 31:03excited. He's like, he starts taking
- 31:05pictures, although the pictures he takes are he's like 3 feet
- 31:09away from the window. So it's not like he's he's just
- 31:11taking a picture of the window. It's not down looking at the
- 31:13people down there fighting. And then he needs to use his
- 31:15phone, but he doesn't have his battery's almost dead.
- 31:17So he asks to use Jodie's phone and she's worried that she won't
- 31:20get her phone back. He's like, he'll just be a
- 31:21second. I just, I got to use the phone.
- 31:22I got to call this in. So he gets on the phone.
- 31:24He's talking to whoever. He's like, it's hard to hear
- 31:26you. I don't have a good signal.
- 31:27Let me go out somewhere where I can find a signal.
- 31:28And then finally we do see the sheriff yell at everybody to
- 31:31calm down, but then that's it. Jodie's just watching and she's
- 31:34like, oh daddy, she says daddy a lot.
- 31:40She does, and it's not like father, daughter, sort of daddy.
- 31:45No. That she's in the way that she's
- 31:48saying it. Yeah, she could be like, she's
- 31:51Dad. No, she's like Daddy.
- 31:56So after she she watches for a little while as her dad is
- 31:59failing to control the crowd, she decides to go find Timmy to
- 32:01get her phone back. So she goes down the same door
- 32:04that he went down. Of course, he's been gone for a
- 32:06bit, so she doesn't know exactly where he's he went, but she just
- 32:09goes down the stairs. And as she goes down, it gets
- 32:11darker and darker. She wanders down through this
- 32:13hallway and she ends up in a locker room.
- 32:16And she's walking through the locker room and there's all
- 32:18these, you know, showers, and there's a bunch of curtains, and
- 32:21she's pulling back each curtain. And then she gets to one
- 32:23curtain, and she almost pulls that curtain back, and she hears
- 32:26the phone ring. She's like, oh, is that for me?
- 32:29So then she walks down the corridor a little bit further,
- 32:33and then we get this long shot on the shower curtain.
- 32:35She didn't pull back the nothing.
- 32:38So then we go over to around the corner and she sees this locker
- 32:42and it has the word virgin carved into it, so she opens it.
- 32:45Timmy's dead falls out. Oh, no, yeah.
- 32:49I, I couldn't believe it. I was devastated.
- 32:52So he falls out onto her and her phone falls out.
- 32:56She grabs it. She's screaming.
- 32:58Of course she runs out the door into the hallway, then to
- 33:02another door. When she opens that door, the
- 33:04bad guy's there. So she screams again.
- 33:06She takes off up the upstairs, she's running through the halls.
- 33:09There's this whole thing where she's running and running.
- 33:11Then he basically catches up to her.
- 33:12They get a little bit entangled, fall down, they get back up.
- 33:15It looks like she's trying to use her dad move that he taught
- 33:18her. Doesn't really work out.
- 33:20He slams her into a locker and knocks her out.
- 33:23Then we see him take her and carry her into the most well
- 33:27equipped science room I've ever seen.
- 33:30Like I don't know how students didn't fit in there.
- 33:31There was so much shit in that room, but it was a really cool
- 33:34room. I don't go down science room
- 33:35like that when I was a kid, but he takes her in there.
- 33:38He then lays her down, he switches knives, and he takes
- 33:42out, I guess, his special virgin carving knife.
- 33:48Well, you don't. You don't have that.
- 33:49I have a perioding knife, a chef knife, a virgin knife, a bread
- 33:53knife. I got to get with it.
- 33:59So he pulls out the knife and he he likes to write virgin on the
- 34:04inner thigh of his victims. So he starts to write the V,
- 34:09which of course triggers Jodi to wake up.
- 34:11She knocks him back with her. You know, she kicks him back.
- 34:14They rumble and she's crawling all over desks and up.
- 34:17She gets higher and higher in the air.
- 34:19And there's this big shark that's hanging on a wire or a
- 34:22couple wires and she finds a box cutter and she slices through
- 34:27the one of the wires and the shark goes down and swings and
- 34:31knocks him into a not a fish tank, but like almost a small
- 34:35glass Arboretum, like it has like plants in it or something.
- 34:38And it looks like he's knocked out.
- 34:39So she's able to get out of the room.
- 34:41She's running out of the hall. And of course, when she turns
- 34:43the corner, somebody's there. So she's like, and she's going
- 34:45to stab them while it's her dad. So she yells, she's like,
- 34:48they're in that room. They're in that room.
- 34:50So the dad puts her with the deputy.
- 34:52The dad goes in the room and of course the killer is gone.
- 34:55They made it out of window. And he stares out the window for
- 34:57a while. You can hear someone running.
- 34:59He doesn't tell anybody to go out there and get them.
- 35:02He just stares out the window like, good job, you're doing a
- 35:05great job at this. Then we go to the police station
- 35:07and they want Jody to give a description of the attacker as
- 35:09they drop a composite on the computer.
- 35:11As this composite starts coming together and everybody's
- 35:14standing around, her dad's there, the deputy, the FBI,
- 35:18they're all standing around, and it starts to become clear.
- 35:21You can see that the sheriff is bothered by this face that's
- 35:24coming together as though he might recognize it.
- 35:27But when the deputy asks him directly if he recognizes her,
- 35:30he says no. Then some kid bursts into the
- 35:34main part of the police station demanding that he's the killer,
- 35:37and apparently this kid comes in and confesses to everything that
- 35:40goes on in town because they're used to him.
- 35:42And just completely at random too, like we don't know who this
- 35:45guy is. He just shows up, starts
- 35:47confessing and he tries to what? I couldn't tell if he was trying
- 35:51to bite the cop or kiss the cop. Probably kiss it's this movie,
- 35:55right? Sexy eyes.
- 36:01So he's just like a weird scene transition.
- 36:06I'm guessing they're using it as a way to get everybody out of
- 36:08the Sheriff's Office because that's where there's they are
- 36:10all are to go deal with this guy, which just leaves the
- 36:13sheriff and Jodie. But it was really kind of dumb.
- 36:16Like they could have found another way to do it.
- 36:18It was. Oh absolutely.
- 36:21This whole movie was weird. Yeah.
- 36:24So. So after everybody leaves the
- 36:27office to go deal with this nut guy, the sheriff tells Jody, you
- 36:31know, your mom's on her way. I have to go into.
- 36:33Well, actually, he goes into his office.
- 36:35I'm not sure whose office this was, but his office is right
- 36:37next to this space. So he goes into his office
- 36:39because he has to make a phone call.
- 36:40So Jody's just sitting there and she's looking at him as he's
- 36:43making this phone call. And then we see what he's
- 36:45saying. He's called the principal and
- 36:47he's like, are you alone? And the principal's like, yeah.
- 36:50And. With this movie, you don't know
- 36:53what that means. So he's like, I'm going to fax
- 36:56you something. And so he faxes the composite
- 36:58drawing and he's like, do you recognize that person?
- 37:01The person was like, maybe. And he's like, it's Laura Lee
- 37:06Sherman. And he's like, doesn't that look
- 37:09like Laura Lee Sherman to you? And then Tom, the principal,
- 37:12he's like, my God, she's been missing for 25 years.
- 37:15Nobody's heard from her. Why would she suddenly show up
- 37:17now as some sort of psycho killer?
- 37:20So, yeah, these two clearly share a whole secret history
- 37:23together, and they both know exactly who Laura Lee Sherman
- 37:25is. And we have yet to figure out
- 37:27who this is, but they're tied to her in some way.
- 37:29The principal has way too much going on with law enforcement at
- 37:33this point. Yeah, now they, they haven't
- 37:36seen each other in years. So now they're like talking like
- 37:38they've known each other forever, which they currently.
- 37:39Have right. I mean, it's kind of like
- 37:41Murder, She Wrote. You know when Angela Lansbury's
- 37:44character was like, involved with like, all this police
- 37:46stuff, but she's just a fucking author.
- 37:48You know and. No matter.
- 37:49Where she goes. Right.
- 37:51And and this movie, it's like guy's a principle, but he seems
- 37:55to be like really vested in law enforcement.
- 37:59He's the go to guy. But only now, right before who?
- 38:06Who's the sheriff? Right.
- 38:08Like I have no idea who you are. I haven't seen you in a long
- 38:11time and now they're best buds. Yeah.
- 38:15So while this conversation is going on, Jodie, of course, is
- 38:18watching her dad. She decides he's acting weird,
- 38:21which I don't know. I mean, he's the sheriff.
- 38:23I mean, he's going to, I would think, yeah, he's allowed to
- 38:25call somebody on the phone because they he wants to put
- 38:28something out maybe about this attacker.
- 38:30Like, I don't know what's so weird about what he's doing, but
- 38:32she thinks it's weird. So she makes up the receiver on
- 38:35the desk that she's at, and she eavesdrops.
- 38:38And she does hear a brief part of the conversation, and she
- 38:41hears the name Laura Lee Sherman.
- 38:43And then her dad notices her and she hangs up really fast.
- 38:46So then he comes in freaked out, crazed.
- 38:48Were you listening to me? What did you hear?
- 38:52So she just plays it off like nothing, nothing.
- 38:54I was just trying to call mom and couldn't figure out how to
- 38:56get the line that goes out. And so now it's all way too
- 39:00tense for a normal phone call. But anyway, a lot of panicky
- 39:03energy. Not suspicious at all.
- 39:05So then Sandy shows up, So the sheriff steps away to go still
- 39:09deal with this loud guy that's in the station who's still
- 39:11yelling and carrying on not being the killer.
- 39:14As Sandy comes into the word, Jody was sitting and she sits
- 39:17down. She's like, Oh my God, I can't
- 39:18believe this happened. Everybody's talking about it.
- 39:20We're so worried about you. And then she drops the big news
- 39:24that word got out the killer is targeting virgins.
- 39:27So now all the teens have decided the logical response is
- 39:30to throw a giant lose your virginity party.
- 39:33Basically an orgy. Yes, at one point Sandy even
- 39:38says you just need a floor big enough.
- 39:43So Jodie, like you don't you want your first time to be with
- 39:46someone special? You're making this sound like
- 39:48it's a flu shot and Sandy and he's basically just trying to
- 39:55pitch it like this is how you save your life.
- 39:57You lose your virginity, and also don't let Kenny lose his
- 40:01virginity to that other girl. These are Sandy's priorities
- 40:04now. So then Jody's mom shows up.
- 40:06Well, maybe. Maybe the idea is that she's
- 40:09fucking Ken vicariously through her daughter.
- 40:12Well, this is Sandy, her best friend.
- 40:14Oh. Sandy her best.
- 40:15Friend. Yeah, this is not her.
- 40:17Friend, See, this is where this movie brings me.
- 40:19This is where this movie fucking brings me.
- 40:21Yeah, that'd be super extra special.
- 40:23Weird. I swear to God this this movie
- 40:25would have been better as a porn.
- 40:27Right. Because the story is just as
- 40:30flimsy as theirs. Right.
- 40:32Yeah, yeah, yeah. Next thing you know, pizza guy
- 40:34walks in, someone has a problem with their plumbing and this
- 40:36police station. It's crazy.
- 40:38Anyway, so that's not true. That's just the porn version.
- 40:46So Jodie's mom shows up ready to take her home and Jodie's like,
- 40:49actually I'm thinking about going to school with Sandy.
- 40:52So this is when I get because the time in this movie was so
- 40:56confusing. So the thing that happened at
- 40:59the school happened after 6:00 PM because 6:00 PM was the time
- 41:02that they had the meeting with the parents.
- 41:04Yes. And so it was at night time, all
- 41:07that stuff had to happen. It was probably a good probably
- 41:107:30, almost 8:00. They just waited till the next
- 41:13day to take her to the PlayStation and get her
- 41:15composite. They didn't take her immediately
- 41:17while she still had it fresh in her head.
- 41:19Or did they take her and school still open like what it was?
- 41:23I hated the time the way they did dealt with time in this
- 41:25movie. So she was like, I was thinking
- 41:27about going to school with Sandy.
- 41:29The sheriff comes in and he shuts that down immediately.
- 41:31He's like, no, you're going home with your mother.
- 41:33Jodi argues that she just wants to see her friends and Sandy's.
- 41:36She's like, she'll be safe with us.
- 41:38And then the deputy walks in and does this weird, sultry little.
- 41:41I'll keep an eye on her, sheriff.
- 41:45OK. Yeah.
- 41:47This movie, it was very weird, but that's why I'm saying it.
- 41:51I really think, you know, because sometimes Hollywood
- 41:53they'll have like a stack of scripts and like they'll, you
- 41:56know, go through them or whatever.
- 41:58I really think that they they took this script and looked at
- 42:01it and said, oh, this was made for porn.
- 42:04But I think this would be better as a feature film.
- 42:06So we're just going to take this and shoot it as is, but we're
- 42:10going to make it a regular movie, right?
- 42:14Because everybody talks like it's sexual.
- 42:17It's so. Strange.
- 42:18Hey, daddy. Hey, I can take care of her.
- 42:22Oh, your headlights are on? What the fuck?
- 42:25I mean, I understand it was 99, there was a different time, but
- 42:29it wasn't this. Bad right?
- 42:31And my notes I have when she says this, I'll keep an eye on
- 42:35her, Sheriff, I said. Like she's auditioning for a
- 42:38very different kind of movie. And so Jodi and Sandy end up
- 42:45going to the school. She gets her way and she goes to
- 42:47school. As they walk in, they see a big
- 42:48memorial banner for the four dead kids.
- 42:51Then the bell rings and kids start to flood the hallway.
- 42:53They see Jodi. They swarm her like she's a
- 42:56celebrity that survived something.
- 42:58Her English teacher is stuck behind the crowd, Mr. Marlston,
- 43:02and he's like trying to get through and get to her.
- 43:04And she like walks by. And because all these kids are
- 43:07all over her and she's like waving at them.
- 43:08It's it's a really stupid moment.
- 43:11And then as they're walking along, all of a sudden the hand
- 43:14reaches out. It's Kenny, and he grabs and
- 43:16pulls her near. And then it's funny because if
- 43:17you watch the kids behind her who were all around her, they
- 43:20all kind of go and shrug and walk away.
- 43:23Who? Cares.
- 43:26Like we had her, now he's got her.
- 43:30So he pulls her in and he says, Oh my God, I thought I lost you.
- 43:34I couldn't have lived without you.
- 43:36And basically he's just like, come with me tonight to the big
- 43:39everyone lose their virginity party.
- 43:41Right, that's his way in, literally and figuratively.
- 43:45Yeah, you have to now. So.
- 43:49So Jody says she can't because she told her dad she'd be going
- 43:52home right after school. Kenny gets a little defensive
- 43:54and he's like, well, if you don't want to go with me, just
- 43:56say so. Don't blame your dad, OK?
- 43:59She repeats that she really has to be home.
- 44:02Then he notices the sheriff's deputy hanging about.
- 44:04She's like, I don't know, 8 or 9 lockers down, just hanging out
- 44:07watching. He's like, who's that?
- 44:09And Jody says that's my bodyguard.
- 44:10And he's like, oh, so Jody. Jody tells him that she has to
- 44:13be home by three. And he's still like, but you'll
- 44:16come with me later, right? And she says she'll think about
- 44:19it with this, you know, her head's tilted down and her eyes
- 44:21are up and wide and open and she's like grinning and gets
- 44:24instantly happy and does this little.
- 44:27He turns around, walks off, does a leprechaun leap and clicks his
- 44:30heels together, runs off, and she giggles about it.
- 44:38So what if that was like a direction?
- 44:40OK, now turn around, walk down the hallway, jump up, click your
- 44:43heels together. Good.
- 44:44All right, so now the kids are planning their night and Cindy,
- 44:49who's the popular snotty girl, decides that she's going to
- 44:51educate all the girls on what's about to happen.
- 44:53So she's out on the school lawn and she's standing up on these
- 44:58steps or this bleachers or something.
- 45:00All the girls are huddled down on the ground around her and
- 45:03they're all like looking up at her and Aww.
- 45:08The Queen is speaking. Right.
- 45:10So she basically turns it into a sex Ed apocalypse edition and
- 45:17she's like, men are horrible at sex, It's going to suck.
- 45:21And all the girls are questioning her about like
- 45:24contraception, if they're going to have orgasms.
- 45:26And she's like, fuck no. And yes, contraception, but
- 45:29you're going to have to provide it.
- 45:31So everybody's asking all these questions and it's whatever.
- 45:33So then we cut to Mark and Ben and some other guy who's sitting
- 45:36in the back seat of their car and they're smoking pot.
- 45:39And the discussion, of course, is the dumbest possible version
- 45:42of a teenage boy sex logic. You know, they're talking about.
- 45:46He asked me, are there really probably three holes or
- 45:48something And they joke about holes and and then how they have
- 45:52to after this is over. They need to find someone who
- 45:54kills only girls that that don't do blow jobs.
- 45:57So, you know, that kind of conversation is going on.
- 46:00Then we see a news reporter. So he's outside the bottom of
- 46:03the steps of the school and he's reporting on the fact that the
- 46:06teenagers are planning a giant sex party.
- 46:08And as we see the reporter, we also get cuts to the principal
- 46:10inside the school and he's watching the news report because
- 46:13it's apparently live and he's got a he's got a flyer.
- 46:16The news guys got the reporters got a flyer and it's a popular
- 46:20cherry party and they are going to have it at a secret location.
- 46:24But everybody knows the location is because this town isn't very
- 46:28big apparently. But this location is some an old
- 46:30hunting lodge, which is a nice fucking hunting lodge by the
- 46:34way. It was a.
- 46:35Very nice house I was. Thinking like a little cabin in
- 46:38the woods. No.
- 46:39So the news reporter, news reporter is out there and he's,
- 46:42you know, talking and all this other stuff about what's going
- 46:44on. And then the bell rings and
- 46:47everybody comes out. You know, they'll leave their
- 46:50classrooms. They're all acting like it's the
- 46:52last day of school. They're throwing papers in the
- 46:54air. They're all screaming and
- 46:55hooting and hollering and woo Hoo, we're about to get laid.
- 46:58And they're all running outside. They run down the front steps
- 47:01and all the girls grab the news reporter and basically start
- 47:05tearing, practically tearing his clothes off.
- 47:07They're kissing him. They're they've got him down on
- 47:10the ground. Then all the kids are jumping on
- 47:12cars and they're shaking the news van.
- 47:15It gets totally crazy and out of control.
- 47:18It's very and they're supposed to be just having sex so they
- 47:20don't die. Right.
- 47:22I'm guessing they're all virgins and they're super excited.
- 47:26Finally, we can do it and have a reason.
- 47:29And shaking this car is going to make us do it better.
- 47:33And then we cut to Jodie's mom, who's at home baking the worst
- 47:37batch of cookies ever because she's obviously an alcoholic.
- 47:41That is her other only vice that she's got left.
- 47:44Yes. Because she's got a whole bottle
- 47:47of looks like Jameson whiskey, and she's got the newscast on
- 47:51and she's watching that. She's got a pile of burnt
- 47:53cookies in a cookie on a cookie sheet.
- 47:55So as she's there watching this and drinking, Jodi comes home
- 47:59and her mom hugs her and they talk about what a weird day it
- 48:02must have been at school. Jodi tries to take a bite of a
- 48:04cookie and her mom's like, oh, those are burnt, don't eat
- 48:06those. Then she's like, let me get you
- 48:08some water. So she pours her glass of water
- 48:10from the sink and then just stands there and drinks it
- 48:13herself. Never gives it to Jodi, which I
- 48:19thought was hilarious and very on brand for this mom.
- 48:22Yes. So they're talking about what's
- 48:25going on, and then Jody decides to ask her mom about Laura Lee
- 48:29Sherman. So her mom looks surprised, you
- 48:32can see it on her face like she's shocked to hear the name
- 48:34but she acts like she doesn't know the name at all.
- 48:37Jodi says well I heard dad talking to the principal and he
- 48:39said that she disappeared 25 years ago.
- 48:41Wouldn't that be small town news?
- 48:43Like wouldn't you guys notice and have a big thing about it?
- 48:46And her own's like, well I've lived here my whole life and
- 48:48I've never heard of her. Then she tries to shut it down
- 48:50and tells Jodi to go lay down and rest and it's been a long
- 48:53hard day. So Jodi agrees and acts like
- 48:54she's going to a room, but then waits for her mom to turn around
- 48:57to drink some more whiskey and quietly sneaks out, which I'm
- 49:00sure is not hard to do. I do have to say this scene was
- 49:03very reminiscent of Nightmare on Elm Street when Nancy was asking
- 49:07her mom about Freddie. Yes, I.
- 49:09Would sit there was like, God, this feels so familiar.
- 49:13That's what it is. OK, right.
- 49:15You're right. So then we cut to the sheriff at
- 49:18his office loading bullets into a gun.
- 49:20His gun. Not just any gun, his gun.
- 49:22I'm guessing his deputy comes in and he tells her he's going to
- 49:25West Virginia. She's like, West Virginia, we
- 49:27need you here. Everything is on fire.
- 49:29Yeah, I I couldn't, I couldn't figure out what was in West
- 49:32Virginia. Laura Lee Waters.
- 49:34I mean, Laura Lee Waters, Laura Lee Sherman is in West Virginia
- 49:40because he did say earlier on that he blast he'd heard when he
- 49:43was talking to the principal, he said he did the last he'd seen
- 49:46he she was living in West Virginia.
- 49:48So that's why he's going there. OK, I guess I missed that part
- 49:51because like, West Virginia was like, what?
- 49:53Why? Like weird.
- 49:54I couldn't tell if like, he was coming from West Virginia or if
- 49:57he was or going like, I had no idea.
- 50:00I just knew West Virginia was in there and I didn't know why.
- 50:02And it would have been on brand for the movie to just say, hey,
- 50:06I'm going to West Virginia with no explanation.
- 50:09But it would be more like I'm going to West Virginia.
- 50:13Right, right. But they live in Virginia, so
- 50:16they're in Virginia outside of Richmond.
- 50:18He's going 3 hours away to West Virginia.
- 50:20So she's like all freaking out because there's so much going
- 50:23on. He's like, yeah, there's
- 50:24something I have to do. That's what he says to her.
- 50:26And she's like, fine. And then she reminds about the
- 50:28big party tonight. He's like a party.
- 50:29What party? And she explains the party and
- 50:31he's like, do you know where it is?
- 50:32And she's like, no, it's a big secret.
- 50:36Everybody knows. Yeah, and he's, and the way this
- 50:40whole thing is going, it feels like that he's asking because he
- 50:43wants to get some, not because he wants to break it up.
- 50:47I may not go to West Virginia. So.
- 50:51So she says she'll find out where it is.
- 50:53And she asks what she should do. And he says to just treat her
- 50:56like any other party. If something happens, go in.
- 50:59Otherwise leave it alone. So again, he's like very
- 51:02nonchalant about the giant sex party, doesn't care if all the
- 51:04kids are having sex. He's fine with it.
- 51:06But he also tells her that he might be gone a while.
- 51:08So then we see Jodie at the local library and she's on the
- 51:11microfilm machine and she's going through the Cherry post
- 51:15trying to find information on Laura Lee Sherman.
- 51:17And then, of course, when she finally gets to the tiny little
- 51:20article about her, she hears a strange noise.
- 51:23So she looks down the long library aisle.
- 51:26And then she gets up, grabs a small bust statue, and starts
- 51:30walking through the aisles. And she's walking through the
- 51:31aisles backwards. Before you go too far, because
- 51:34of this movie, I completely forgot about microfiche.
- 51:37Yeah. And like how that all that stuff
- 51:40works and everything, 'cause I'm, I'm looking at it, I'm
- 51:42like, why does she have a spool of film and then she starts
- 51:47using it like on the microfiche machine, whatever that was
- 51:50called. It's like, yeah, I remember that
- 51:53now. Yeah, I chose to call it.
- 51:54I know we called it microfiche, but I chose to call it microfilm
- 51:57because I didn't know anybody know what microfiche was?
- 52:01But it was this big, huge thing that you had a big like a screen
- 52:06that was opaque and weird, and you'd put the film in this other
- 52:10part and it would shoot the film up and you would see what was in
- 52:13old periodicals or whatever. Books.
- 52:16Whatever. This was all pre Internet I
- 52:18guess back in 1999. So she starts walking down in
- 52:23between all the bookshelves and she's walking backwards because
- 52:26she only cares what's behind her and not what's actually behind
- 52:28her now. So she's walking backwards and,
- 52:31and as she's walking through, she knows that there's somebody
- 52:34there. She can hear stuff.
- 52:35She's starting starts to get tense and fast and she can feel
- 52:38that somebody's there. I don't know why she didn't just
- 52:40try to find her way out of the library instead of getting in
- 52:43between all these bookcases. But then all of a sudden there's
- 52:46something behind her. She bumps into it.
- 52:48She turns around and screams. It's her mom.
- 52:50And her mom absolutely fucking loses it full volume in the
- 52:55library, no less, yelling and screaming and and she's yelling
- 52:59at her. What are you what you're doing
- 53:01here? Why are you at the library?
- 53:03What the library? Why aren't you at the sex party?
- 53:09Right. Like she's just going off
- 53:11because she's at the library. And and and.
- 53:14The thing is, you're supposed to be quite in the library and mom
- 53:18is not respecting the rules. But they seem to be the only
- 53:20ones there. I didn't even see a library.
- 53:23That's true. So Jodi's like, OK, then.
- 53:27And then they end up at a table still in the library.
- 53:30And she's like, tell me about Laura Lee Sherman.
- 53:31Tell me. Tell me right now.
- 53:33So they sit down, and her mom is whispering now, but she talks
- 53:37about how Laura Lee Sherman was a girl who said she was raped by
- 53:42a group of high school seniors. And Jodi's like, OK, yeah.
- 53:47And she's like, well, they weren't prosecuted.
- 53:50Nothing happened. She's like, why weren't they
- 53:52prosecuted? And she's like, because they
- 53:53were good kids from a good home and a good family, and they were
- 53:57star football players, you know, the same small town shit.
- 54:01So she's like, well, who was it? Who was it mom?
- 54:03And she's like, well, there were two guys that they, as soon as
- 54:06it happened, after it happened, they left town.
- 54:08She's like, OK, And who were the other two guys?
- 54:10And she's like 1 was the principal.
- 54:12She's like the principal. She's like, yeah.
- 54:14She's like, well, there was one more.
- 54:15Who was the other one? Her mom was like.
- 54:18I can't remember. She's like, who was it, mom?
- 54:22Who was it? And she starts yelling at her
- 54:24mom. Who was it?
- 54:25So finally your mom starts crying and she's like, OK, OK,
- 54:28he was your dad, but he was so drunk he basically passed out.
- 54:31He didn't rape her. And so then of course she's all
- 54:34upset. And like, what the hell?
- 54:37Are you kidding me? So now Jody's all devastated to
- 54:40find out that Daddy is a baddie. And then she also finds out that
- 54:48Laura Lee did go to the police. They didn't do anything about it
- 54:51because of the good kids, good families, football, blah, blah,
- 54:54blah. And basically they were just,
- 54:56you know, small town protection system fully engaged because she
- 54:59was supposedly also kind of a weird girl.
- 55:02Like, that matters. So then we cut back to Sheriff
- 55:04Markham, who is now in West Virginia and what he thinks is
- 55:07Laura Lee Sherman's house. And it's this old falling down
- 55:11house in the middle of field in the middle of nowhere.
- 55:14He goes in with his gun drawn and the house is a rack.
- 55:17It's old and decayed, falling apart.
- 55:19Creepy. He barely looks around.
- 55:20He looks in one room, and then he immediately decides, Yep,
- 55:24it's going, let's go in the basement.
- 55:25Doesn't look at any other part of the house, just immediately
- 55:28to the basement, because that's how it always is.
- 55:30It's always the safest place, yeah.
- 55:32He goes down and it's of course got that whole nightmare by but
- 55:35there's a crib and a rocking chair.
- 55:37There's also chains hanging from the ceiling, some stuff that
- 55:41looks like some weird bondage shit going on.
- 55:44Yeah, why? Why is this here with the baby
- 55:46crib? What are you doing?
- 55:48This is a weird baby room dungeon setup we got going on
- 55:53here. Very strange.
- 55:54He walks around a little bit and he goes over to the crib and
- 55:57there's a blanket that he can tell is covering something up.
- 56:00And then you can tell that by the way he is, he's worried that
- 56:02there's actually some child underneath his blanket.
- 56:04But when he pulls it back, it's just a doll.
- 56:06So then he stands there and he's like, yeah, this is weird.
- 56:09And looking around you can tell that it's strange, but he
- 56:11doesn't find anybody. He feels that it's off, but then
- 56:14he decides he's going to leave. And of course, as he's walking
- 56:16out and you see a shot from inside the house through the
- 56:19doorway at him walking to his police car.
- 56:22And then we see the side of a long haired figure kind of step
- 56:25into frame, barely there, but you know, they're there.
- 56:29And they watch him leave. Spooky.
- 56:31So then his deputy radios him just as he gets to the car and
- 56:34tells him the principal wants to meet him that evening to talk
- 56:36about Laura Lee Sherman. He's like, OK, I'll look into
- 56:39it. And then we jump to Kenny's
- 56:41house. So Kenny's up in his room and
- 56:44he's playing the guitar. And we see Jodi show up outside
- 56:46on her bicycle and she waves and he's like all excited.
- 56:50And he's like, oh, you're early and has her come in.
- 56:53So they're laying on the bed and he's on one of the bed.
- 56:56She's on the other of the bed. Her legs are on top of him on.
- 56:59Her This was so weird too. All I can say about this is this
- 57:03movie is so weird. That's the word of the day for
- 57:06this movie. Weird.
- 57:08So he she's got her feet basically up on his chest and
- 57:12his face kind of. And they're talking and she's
- 57:15talking about how her just found out her parents suck and her
- 57:17dad's a hypocrite and that she can't believe that she's let her
- 57:20parents run her life and she's made every decision based on her
- 57:23parents her whole life and blah, blah, blah.
- 57:25And she's super, you know, pissed off about it, but it's
- 57:28got her in the mood. Right as she's sitting there,
- 57:33they show Kenny's boot, and it's the same boot that we saw in the
- 57:37cafeteria earlier. Oh no.
- 57:40So we now think Kenny's the bad guy.
- 57:43So she takes his boot off and as they're talking, she tells him
- 57:47out of nowhere to bite her toe, her big toe.
- 57:50So she shoves it in his mouth and he bites on it and she's
- 57:54pushing around. She's like, bite it harder,
- 57:56harder. Yeah, I don't understand why her
- 57:59toe was in his mouth at that point.
- 58:01You know, I'm. I don't a foot guy, I'm not a
- 58:03foot guy, I can't stand feet and that part was just like
- 58:06disgusting to me. But at some point, how much
- 58:09harder can you get before he starts breaking skin and biting
- 58:12it off because she's harder? Harder, harder and.
- 58:15He's like, OK, OK. And she starts taking her other
- 58:18foot and slapping him in the face.
- 58:19She's like harder, harder. And he's finally, she slaps him
- 58:22a little too hard and he spits her toe out of his mouth and
- 58:26he's like, disgusted and he's like, what the fuck, Jody?
- 58:29Well, I mean, that's how that's how you turn somebody is by
- 58:33making them suck your toe and I didn't kick them in the face.
- 58:36Haven't you ever tried that? All the time.
- 58:38That's the only thing I do. What are we talking about here?
- 58:41This is easy. He seems appalled and upset by
- 58:44this. And then.
- 58:45But she sits up, climbs over top of him.
- 58:48She's kneeling over his waist, and she's got her, you know, her
- 58:51legs around his hips. And she takes her shirt off, and
- 58:54she's like, let's do it. And he's like, yeah, So she's
- 58:57all into, you know, kissing him and doing whatever.
- 58:59But then he stops her. He says that the only reason
- 59:02that she wants to do it right now is because she's mad at her
- 59:04parents and she gets upset about this.
- 59:06She's like, what? Don't you love me?
- 59:08Don't you love my body? And he's like, yes, I love your
- 59:11body, I love you, but I want you to want me because you actually
- 59:15want me, not because you're angry and pissed off.
- 59:17So now we have a total role reversal where Kenny now is the
- 59:22I want it to be a special moment kind of guy.
- 59:25And she's like, let's fuck. Like right now.
- 59:28Come on, bite my toes. Bite my toes.
- 59:31I don't want to walk tomorrow, not because the sex.
- 59:38I want you to make me walk funny.
- 59:45So, so then she gets pissed and irritated and she puts her shirt
- 59:49back on and backs off. And then she gets like that kind
- 59:52of almost like a sexy vixen. I don't know how to explain it,
- 59:56but she's suddenly like, she's a mature woman kind of thing.
- 59:59I I don't know, it's a weird thing she suddenly gets into
- 1:00:02because she backs off and she's like, you know, this is stupid.
- 1:00:05I'm leaving. I have somebody else I can, you
- 1:00:07know, go hang out with. And he's like, you found better,
- 1:00:09you know, you have better company.
- 1:00:10And she's like, yeah, maybe I do.
- 1:00:12And I'm not going to that stupid kids sex party.
- 1:00:15And he's like, he's like, well, do you have somebody else in
- 1:00:18mind? And she's like, maybe.
- 1:00:20And he's like, Mr. Marlston. Marlston.
- 1:00:22Never get his name right, Mr. Marlston.
- 1:00:24And she's like, why would you say that?
- 1:00:26How do you know? And he's like, I've seen you
- 1:00:31with him. And then she snaps and makes it
- 1:00:33into a whole thing. Oh, you're spying on me.
- 1:00:35But she's singing in a very coy manner.
- 1:00:38She's like, do I have to start looking for you around every
- 1:00:40corner? And then she's like, I didn't
- 1:00:43know you had such a sick mind, the girl, you just had your toes
- 1:00:46in his mouth and you were asking him to basically bite them off.
- 1:00:49What are you talking? About right And and and you're
- 1:00:51admitting slightly that you want to have sex with your teacher.
- 1:00:55Right. Yeah, exactly.
- 1:00:56So then she puts her jacket on and she goes to leave.
- 1:00:59He grabs her from behind, trying to hug her, and she twists out
- 1:01:02of it. And then she's running out the
- 1:01:03door. He's yells if you leave now, you
- 1:01:06can never come back. And it's over.
- 1:01:08And that was that. So then we go back to Sheriff
- 1:01:10Markham. He goes to the school, to the
- 1:01:12principal's office. It's late in the evening.
- 1:01:14He walks in, goes inside, opens the principal's office door and
- 1:01:18you can tell by his face if something's wrong.
- 1:01:21So he slowly walks over to the principal.
- 1:01:23You then see principal's head face and on his forehead it
- 1:01:28writes Virgin Knot. And that was carved into his
- 1:01:31forehead, and now he's dead. So as he's looking at him, out
- 1:01:34of nowhere, someone comes behind the sheriff and swings.
- 1:01:38Something hits him in the back of the head and knocks him out
- 1:01:40cold. So then we jump to the party.
- 1:01:43Now, this party that apparently nobody knows where it is.
- 1:01:47The cops are all over the place. The cops are everywhere.
- 1:01:50They've set up a perimeter to protect these virgin kids.
- 1:01:53It's like, OK, so the kids are all piling into this huge
- 1:01:58hunting lodge, there's a big bonfire going.
- 1:02:00Cops are basically there just to keep the peace I guess while
- 1:02:03this whole Team Chaos Popular Cherry party is going on inside.
- 1:02:08And there's a big banner, as I recall, there's a big banner.
- 1:02:12Yeah, the. Yeah, no, yeah, nobody knows
- 1:02:15where it is, but Nope. No big secret.
- 1:02:18So basically, at this point, the movie does a little tour through
- 1:02:20the house. It's slow music.
- 1:02:22Kids are slowly dancing, they're talking, they're hanging out.
- 1:02:25They're starting to pair off, figuring out who's going with
- 1:02:27who. They're all coupling up for
- 1:02:30this, you know, weird end of the world prom thing or saving us
- 1:02:33from the end of the world prom thing.
- 1:02:35Sandy finds Mark, they start dancing.
- 1:02:37At some point they end up making out.
- 1:02:39Ben is hanging out with the Super cool popular chick that
- 1:02:42was giving everybody pointers and she's basically negotiating
- 1:02:45with him about what she's going to get out of this business deal
- 1:02:48and ultimately gives in by giving.
- 1:02:51She wants a bunch of CDs and something else.
- 1:02:53The camera was. Yeah, CDs both imported and
- 1:02:58domestic and right, there's like a couple other things too, Yeah.
- 1:03:02So then Kenny shows up and the girl that he had been seeing
- 1:03:05after the breakup with Jody comes up to him.
- 1:03:07She's all over him. She's kissing him, she's trying
- 1:03:09to escalate things. And then he stops her.
- 1:03:11He's like, I cannot believe I, this is happening to me twice.
- 1:03:14And I've stopped a girl from trying to get in my pants.
- 1:03:16She's like, oh, tell me what's wrong.
- 1:03:17I love a challenge. And he's like, you know what, So
- 1:03:20do I? And then he puts his Cape on and
- 1:03:22he takes off out of the school, out of the out of the lunting
- 1:03:25lodge because he's now going to go in get his woman back.
- 1:03:30So then we cut to the teacher's house, and Mr. Marlston is
- 1:03:33struggling with this big trunk he has pulled out of his car and
- 1:03:36got on his front steps, front porch, and he's trying to get it
- 1:03:39inside. Nobody rides up on her bicycle
- 1:03:41and asks if he needs help. He's like, yeah, actually I do.
- 1:03:44She's like, cool. And he's like, well, it's going
- 1:03:46to the basement, though, so it's a bit of a walk.
- 1:03:48And she's like, sure, I go over to the basement door and of
- 1:03:52course, there's, you know, steps that go down.
- 1:03:54He starts talking to her and he can tell her there's something
- 1:03:57wrong. She says that she found about
- 1:03:58something about her dad and he's like, like what?
- 1:04:01That he's a liar, a fraud and a criminal.
- 1:04:02And she looks at me like, yeah, actually.
- 1:04:06So then he shoves the trunk down the stairs, so it goes and lands
- 1:04:12them on the steps. So Jody's looks at him and it's
- 1:04:14like, what's a trunk? And he says, and it comes off in
- 1:04:17a way that could be a joke but might not be a joke.
- 1:04:21And he says your dad. Then she looks at him and he's
- 1:04:23like, or maybe mine. And she thinks maybe he's
- 1:04:26messing around. So she brings down, opens it,
- 1:04:29and there's her dad all taped up, bloody and beaten inside
- 1:04:32this trunk. She looks around and sees, yeah,
- 1:04:35yeah, what? The dogs.
- 1:04:36She looks around and sees the wig, the disguise stuff, all
- 1:04:40kinds of stuff, all the stuff that was being used for him to
- 1:04:43disguise himself as Laura Lee Sherman.
- 1:04:46So this is the moment where we now realize it was the teacher
- 1:04:51the whole time. It's the big review but, but
- 1:04:55really we don't really know because it's just sitting on the
- 1:04:58side. It could be somebody else's.
- 1:04:59Yeah, she just thinks this is his house.
- 1:05:01He's just rented it just today. Yeah, that that was that was the
- 1:05:05big reveal. I was not surprised I figured
- 1:05:08that out early on. So then we bounced back to the
- 1:05:10party for a second, just more shots of people making out, and
- 1:05:13then back to the teacher's basement.
- 1:05:15Now Jodie strapped down on some kind of chair.
- 1:05:18Like, oh, you forgot. You forgot the part that you
- 1:05:20know, he just fucking decks her. Like when she figures out
- 1:05:22everything, he just fucking hauls off and decks her, like,
- 1:05:25hard. Yeah.
- 1:05:26He does because that's how he knocks her out to get her
- 1:05:28strapped down. That's right.
- 1:05:29Yeah, he does not. He knocks her out.
- 1:05:31And this, this was probably the most convincing part of the
- 1:05:34movie because I'm just like, damn, he fucking knocked her
- 1:05:37shit out. So, yeah, he knocks her out.
- 1:05:40He straps her down to this. You know, it wasn't like a
- 1:05:43dentist's chair. It's more like a mortician's
- 1:05:45table. But you could move.
- 1:05:46I don't know, It's kind of weird chair.
- 1:05:48And then of course, the dad, the sheriff, he's tied up to a
- 1:05:51regular chair. The teacher demands the sheriff
- 1:05:54tell the story as to why this is taking place.
- 1:05:58Like what happened that made him pissed off at the sheriff.
- 1:06:02And the sheriff, of course, doesn't want to.
- 1:06:03And the teacher threatens Jody. But Jody's like, my mom already
- 1:06:06told me the story. You're not going to shock me.
- 1:06:08I already know. So thanks mom for ruining it.
- 1:06:13Spoilers, Mom. Yeah, spoiler alert.
- 1:06:16So the sheriff still panics, though.
- 1:06:18He's like, don't tell her, don't tell her.
- 1:06:20Joey's like, I already know, though.
- 1:06:22But the sheriff tells the story anyway.
- 1:06:24So this, they do a flashback scene.
- 1:06:26We're back in high school. Him, Tom, the principal, and two
- 1:06:29other guys were driving along in their car.
- 1:06:31They come across Laura Lee Sherman, who's in her, who's
- 1:06:34outside of her car, broken down on the side of the road.
- 1:06:36They all get out and Tom is distinctly intoxicated, like
- 1:06:40he's falling down, basically passes outside the car when he
- 1:06:44gets out and lays there on the pavement while the other three
- 1:06:47guys go over to Laura Lee. And she's at, you know, saying
- 1:06:49that she's, you know, I need a ride, I need this or whatever.
- 1:06:52And they all start just fucking with her, like being total
- 1:06:54assholes. And ultimately they grab her and
- 1:06:57lay her down on top of a picnic table.
- 1:06:59And the three of them do rape her.
- 1:07:01And then after they do that, they go over to the sheriff,
- 1:07:04pick him up off the ground and lay him on top of her and force
- 1:07:08him to rape her. Well, he's telling this story.
- 1:07:11He's like, even though I was drunk and I was barely
- 1:07:13conscious, I still knew what I was doing.
- 1:07:16He's like screaming out. I still knew what I was doing.
- 1:07:18I knew what I. Was doing and, and at the same
- 1:07:20time he wasn't doing anything. His friends were holding him up.
- 1:07:24I don't know how, I don't know how they got him inserted, but
- 1:07:28you know, they, they just kept on like moving on back and
- 1:07:31forth. So like, he had no control over
- 1:07:33what was going on. Right, right.
- 1:07:35So while he's telling this story, we see shots from the
- 1:07:39flashback. We also see shots of the teacher
- 1:07:42putting makeup on and putting the wig on and getting into the
- 1:07:48Laura Lee Sherman character. And I have to say, Jay Moore
- 1:07:50looks pretty good in makeup. I was.
- 1:07:54Surprised because as Jay Moore, he doesn't necessarily have a
- 1:07:57very feminine face, but once he put the makeup on, it actually
- 1:08:00worked. It did.
- 1:08:01It looked more feminine. He didn't.
- 1:08:03I guess he doesn't have sharp sharp features.
- 1:08:06He probably contoured. Yeah, that's probably.
- 1:08:09What he did, the sheriff is crying and you know he's all
- 1:08:13upset because he knew what was happening and he still knew what
- 1:08:16he was doing. And the teeth.
- 1:08:17Then Mr. Ralston starts twisting his knife very emotionally,
- 1:08:22saying, you know, Laura Lee was in love with him.
- 1:08:24As he's getting up in the sheriff's face, she's like, did
- 1:08:26you know that she was in love with you?
- 1:08:27She wrote poems for you. She wrote songs about you and
- 1:08:30stories about you, but she never got to tell you before.
- 1:08:33And after it happened, she couldn't tell you or anyone, Oh,
- 1:08:36except for me. And then we get a flashback of
- 1:08:39him when he was a kid in the crib and you see Laura Lee,
- 1:08:43who's just beating him mercilessly with a belt or
- 1:08:46whatever she's got, I guess. And she's just hitting him over
- 1:08:49and over, I guess, as she's telling him the story.
- 1:08:51And then he says it's hard living with someone who looks
- 1:08:53like the person you love and hate and then calls the sheriff
- 1:08:56dad. Another big twist.
- 1:08:59Oh, no. So because of that, he decided
- 1:09:04he was going to come back to town to punish everyone by
- 1:09:07killing their perfect virginal kids.
- 1:09:09And then Kenny shows up in his hot rod of a car.
- 1:09:13We get a shot of, you know, Kenny outside driving up.
- 1:09:15Then we get a shot of the teacher back inside.
- 1:09:18He's going back over to Jody because he wants to finish
- 1:09:20riding virgin on her thigh because he didn't get to finish
- 1:09:22it before because he was so rudely erupted by Jaws.
- 1:09:25So. I know that was rude.
- 1:09:27Yeah, obnoxious. So you can see the first part of
- 1:09:31the V there and it's stitched up and then it's.
- 1:09:33Poorly. Yeah, so he starts to go carve
- 1:09:36the other side of the V into her leg to finish this rich role he
- 1:09:40has. And the doorbell rings and then
- 1:09:42he's like. What the fuck?
- 1:09:43This is the door now who decides to stop doing their serial
- 1:09:47killer shit just because a doorbell rings?
- 1:09:51Who does that? What apparently this?
- 1:09:55Guy apparently this guy and of course we know it's it's Kenny
- 1:09:58so Jody and the sheriff immediately tried screaming and
- 1:10:02he covers her mouth tapes it up goes over tapes up the sheriff's
- 1:10:05mouth of course and then because you know of course the serial
- 1:10:09killer always answers the door like it's no big deal of.
- 1:10:12Course. He answers the door.
- 1:10:14He's in this robe, he has taken the wig off.
- 1:10:16And he asks Kenny, what are you doing here in the middle of the
- 1:10:20night? And Kenny asks where Jody is and
- 1:10:22Marlson plays dumb like he doesn't know where she is, she's
- 1:10:25not here. Then Kenny points out her bike,
- 1:10:27it's right there. Marlson denies it.
- 1:10:29Marlson says why are you looking at me weird?
- 1:10:32And then Kenny says why are you wearing lipstick?
- 1:10:35And Marlson says because it makes me feel pretty.
- 1:10:37And when he says this you can see him pull out a small knife.
- 1:10:40But Kenny just punches him in the gut and knocks him back.
- 1:10:44Runs inside the house and smart move.
- 1:10:47He literally turned around and shot and locked the door.
- 1:10:50I was like because I was yelling lock the door, lock the door and
- 1:10:53he actually did he. Listened to me and and I might I
- 1:10:55might point out the fact that Kenny is huge compared to the
- 1:11:00future like the the actor. The actor was much bigger than
- 1:11:05Jay Moore. Like height like.
- 1:11:08He was a funny. Kid and he also had a big head
- 1:11:10compared to the compared to him and the only reason why I
- 1:11:13remember that is because I watched it just before we did
- 1:11:16all this and his head was fucking huge.
- 1:11:18Yeah, he was. I would say he's at least
- 1:11:20probably 63. He looked like a really tall
- 1:11:23person, or Jay Moore is just really short.
- 1:11:25Yeah, I think, I think it's Jay Moore is really short.
- 1:11:27So Kenny locks the door and starts yelling for Jodi and then
- 1:11:31downstairs while he's while he's upstairs looking through the
- 1:11:33house, the sheriff manages to knock over the chair he's in and
- 1:11:37scooch his way over to a big mirror that fortunately is right
- 1:11:40there near him that he can knock over and make a loud crash sound
- 1:11:44so Kenny knows where they are. So Kenny hears it, runs
- 1:11:48downstairs to the basement, finds Jodi, rips the tape off
- 1:11:52her mouth, unties her hands. She starts to untie her feet
- 1:11:55while he goes over to try and free the sheriff.
- 1:11:57And outside we see the teacher grab an axe and chops his way
- 1:12:02back inside through the door. Then he comes down to the
- 1:12:05basement and a fight ensues. The sheriff gets loose, lands a
- 1:12:09punch, but the teacher cuts him in the neck and the sheriff is
- 1:12:14falls down and of course Jody's screaming and.
- 1:12:17And yeah. 'Cause he, 'cause he had a knife
- 1:12:19and he plunged it into his neck. Yeah, and Kenny grabs Jody's
- 1:12:23like, come on, we got to go, we got to go.
- 1:12:24And she's still screaming for Daddy.
- 1:12:27Daddy. The teacher turns around to go
- 1:12:31attack Jodi, but the dad, who's still alive, does grab something
- 1:12:36and plunges it into the teacher's legs.
- 1:12:38So now the teacher's pissed, turns back around, takes the
- 1:12:40axe, and just axe the fuck out of the dad.
- 1:12:42Dad's done. Over.
- 1:12:43Bye bye, Sheriff Margo, Kenny and Jodi run out of the house
- 1:12:47and instead of just getting this car and driving away because
- 1:12:50they had plenty of time to do that, no, they just go running
- 1:12:54into the woods. And apparently the secret house
- 1:12:57is very close to the teacher's house because they have to run
- 1:13:00very far. They show up at the sex party
- 1:13:03house. They run up to it and they're at
- 1:13:04the steps and a cop stops them. He's like, where are you guys
- 1:13:07going? What are you doing?
- 1:13:08Stop kids. And Jody tells him screaming.
- 1:13:11She's like, it's the teacher, it's Mr. Marleston, he's the
- 1:13:13killer. He's at his house.
- 1:13:15He just killed my dad. They're there.
- 1:13:16You need to go stop it. You'll go get him.
- 1:13:18So then the cop recognizes her. He's like, Jody, is that you?
- 1:13:21And she's like, yes. And then she's like trying to
- 1:13:24convince him to go. So the cop radio is the
- 1:13:26sheriff's deputy, the one that's like the right hand girl, and
- 1:13:29tells her the sheriff is dead and the killer is Mr. Marlston,
- 1:13:33the English teacher. And the movie does this thing
- 1:13:36right here because they show her receiving this information over
- 1:13:39her walkie-talkie. And she lifts her head up.
- 1:13:42She's walking normally when she hears the sheriff's dead.
- 1:13:44She lifts her head up and back, her mouth open.
- 1:13:47But instead of just relying on her acting, they decide she
- 1:13:51sucks. We're going to slow this down
- 1:13:54and do some wobbly thing with the camera so that we all know
- 1:13:59how devastated she really is. It was.
- 1:14:02Just I was like, why are we doing?
- 1:14:03This. So then we go back to Jodi and
- 1:14:05Kenny and the cop, and they're trying to convince him to leave.
- 1:14:07And he's like, I can't leave my post, I can't just split.
- 1:14:10And the second he says split, the axe comes down and splits
- 1:14:12his head open. Yeah.
- 1:14:14Like ha ha ha funny joke. Yeah, so Jody and Kenny scream
- 1:14:18and they run into the house. The teacher, Mr. Marlston, he
- 1:14:22can't yank the axe free, so he's like son of a bitch.
- 1:14:24So he ditches it and pulls out one of his knives and he follows
- 1:14:27them into the house. So.
- 1:14:28Well, also this axe. This axe was very shiny, brand
- 1:14:31new. Yes, it.
- 1:14:33Was because it was supposedly used to chop wood and you would
- 1:14:36think that'd be some scratches on it even from one use.
- 1:14:39This was a perfectly shiny brand spanking new axe.
- 1:14:44Yeah, when he pulled it out originally at his house, it was
- 1:14:46in a piece of wood, right? And it was shiny, brand new.
- 1:14:49Yep, absolutely. They run inside and we see that
- 1:14:53most of the kids are not downstairs anymore where they
- 1:14:55originally all were dancing and whatever.
- 1:14:56The only two down there are Mark and Sandy and they're still slow
- 1:14:59dancing. They didn't go up with all the
- 1:15:00other kids. I don't know why all the kids
- 1:15:02went upstairs, but they did. So then Jodi and Kenny went
- 1:15:04upstairs and they burst into a room and all the kids are packed
- 1:15:07together half naked, naked, trying to save their lives.
- 1:15:11Jodi. Jodi screams that Mister Marlson
- 1:15:15is the killer and when he she says that he appears and says
- 1:15:18class dismissed and then it's so he kids are running and all over
- 1:15:26the place back and forth screaming and he's slashing
- 1:15:29through them and they're stampeding basically.
- 1:15:32Kenny gets separated from Jody in the rush and he's like
- 1:15:36underneath a bunch of kids. Somehow he suddenly got under a
- 1:15:39bunch of kids. She gets pulled off into another
- 1:15:41room. The kids are all running out of
- 1:15:43the room and managed to mostly of them managed to get past the
- 1:15:47teacher, but they're get bottlenecked on the staircase.
- 1:15:50So they're piling up on the staircase and the way the
- 1:15:52staircase is is it goes down, there's a landing, then it turns
- 1:15:56and goes down again. So they're all trying to get
- 1:15:58down the steps. As they're doing that.
- 1:16:00The sheriff's deputy, that's his right hand girl, I never got her
- 1:16:04name. She is going up and gets to the
- 1:16:06landing. And as she gets to the landing,
- 1:16:08all the kids start coming down and knock into her.
- 1:16:10So there's a big pile up there at the platform and they're all
- 1:16:14just stuck on the stairs like no one can seem to get along this.
- 1:16:17Corner. Yeah.
- 1:16:18No one's moving. It's just.
- 1:16:20It's piling up and piling up. Finally, the pushing gets to the
- 1:16:23point where it's so bad they're so piled up, the railing does
- 1:16:26break and kids go flying off the side.
- 1:16:29That clears the jam enough for most people to start running
- 1:16:31outside. Then we go back to Jodi and she
- 1:16:34keeps, you know, running around upstairs in other places.
- 1:16:36She then suddenly is alone. She was pulled into a room by
- 1:16:40some other kids, but then she was by herself.
- 1:16:41I don't know where those kids went.
- 1:16:43So she finds this. They went down stairs.
- 1:16:46But they went to the other way. This is a back staircase that
- 1:16:49those kids figured out. Maybe she surprised in this
- 1:16:51house. This house was that big.
- 1:16:53So she opens this tiny door, and JD Quall's character and some
- 1:16:59girl are in there. And they're, you know, in the
- 1:17:01midst of saving their lives. So she goes and runs back out of
- 1:17:07that room but runs straight into Mr. Marleston.
- 1:17:10He grabs her, gets her on the ground, starts choking her.
- 1:17:13But then Kenny shows up and locks him in a chokehold.
- 1:17:16He's behind him, you know, with his arm around his neck.
- 1:17:18But Marleston elbows him in the gut and then turns around and
- 1:17:21slashes Kenny across the chest. Kenny drops the floor.
- 1:17:24He's bleeding. He's hurt.
- 1:17:26And again, it's a weird slow motion moment where we see this
- 1:17:30happen. And then we look at Jodi and
- 1:17:32it's all weirdly slow. Yeah.
- 1:17:34Whatever they really want us to feel it.
- 1:17:37You know, honestly, I'm surprised that they didn't write
- 1:17:39him to the script when he was choking it.
- 1:17:41Choke me harder, Daddy. Yeah, I didn't look to see what
- 1:17:49this movie was rated. I know it wasn't X, but was it
- 1:17:53R? I don't know I I think it was PG
- 1:17:5813 maybe? Yeah, that's what I would have
- 1:17:59figured. It was PG13, but they basically
- 1:18:01took the porn script and they had to get it cleaned up for PG.
- 1:18:04So that's they probably originally did say choke me down
- 1:18:07your daddy, but they decided we probably might have to change
- 1:18:11that. You can bite her toes, but don't
- 1:18:13choke her. It's a no no.
- 1:18:18That would give us an R rating for sure.
- 1:18:20Marlon turbans back to Jodi. She has this flashbacks of every
- 1:18:24interaction she's had with him, whether as the teacher or as the
- 1:18:27creepy Laura Lee Sherman. And he lunges towards her.
- 1:18:31And Jodi finally gets to use the move her dad taught her.
- 1:18:34Not quite in the same way, but she does grab his arm and twist
- 1:18:37him and shoves him through the French doors which go out onto a
- 1:18:40porch. And he manages to.
- 1:18:42And this is quite a bit of space between where she does this and
- 1:18:45where he falls off the porch railing.
- 1:18:47But I guess she pushed him hard enough that he was he could not
- 1:18:50catch his footing and he stumbled all the way across the
- 1:18:53porch and flipped over the railing.
- 1:18:55Yes. Yeah.
- 1:18:57And then became and then became impaled.
- 1:19:00Yes. So the lower landing where the
- 1:19:02steps are that go up into the house, the railing, the hand
- 1:19:06rail on that was off and I don't remember why it was off, but
- 1:19:09maybe it's just because it was an old rundown house.
- 1:19:10But even though it wasn't that old and rundown, so the posts
- 1:19:13were sticking up. Everywhere.
- 1:19:14It was bottlenecked there too, yeah.
- 1:19:16Probably. So he lands on that.
- 1:19:19Of course it goes through him, he's laying there, eyes are
- 1:19:21closed, we assume he's dead. Everyone stares.
- 1:19:24And then Mark being Mark walks up and starts messing with him
- 1:19:28and he takes the wig off and everybody's like no Mark don't
- 1:19:31don't. And as soon as he takes the wig
- 1:19:32off Marlon's eyes snap open and he grabs Mark and everyone
- 1:19:35screams. Then the deputy, she finally
- 1:19:37makes her way outside and points 2 guns at him and just fires
- 1:19:41none. Stuff just goes gun to Kimbo.
- 1:19:43Just freaking just lays out. I don't know.
- 1:19:46I mean. Right.
- 1:19:48And, and every police officer knows how to effectively go gun
- 1:19:53to Kimbo and just start freaking shooting.
- 1:19:56Right, So then we see Jodi on the balcony.
- 1:19:58She's looking down. Kenny staggers out to her,
- 1:20:01barely holding on, but he's made it outside.
- 1:20:04The kids are huddled together on the stairs, shaking and covered
- 1:20:06in blood. Jodi and Kenny are up top,
- 1:20:09almost in her close huddle together.
- 1:20:11There's almost a kiss, but not quite, before we change scenes.
- 1:20:14So then we have Jodi and her mom inside the.
- 1:20:17The police station, the FBI is questioning Jody about
- 1:20:20everything that went on. And they asked her why the
- 1:20:22sheriff was in West Virginia. She's like, I don't know.
- 1:20:24And then they keep trying to press why did the the teacher go
- 1:20:30on this mad killing spree? Like she's supposed to know and
- 1:20:33right, I don't know. I mean, she knows, but she's
- 1:20:36like, but technically if she didn't like, why would she know?
- 1:20:39I mean, she does, she does know, but most of the time.
- 1:20:42Right. I mean, it would be fair to
- 1:20:45assume that she didn't know anything about this stuff,
- 1:20:47right? And the way the questions were
- 1:20:50being done, it's like he was being accusatory of whatever it
- 1:20:53is that her husband was doing she somehow had something to do
- 1:20:56with. Yeah, They almost made it seem
- 1:20:58like Jodi and her mom were or Jodi or somebody had some part
- 1:21:02in this. They were.
- 1:21:03They were questioning her in a really weird way.
- 1:21:05He asks Jodi, you know, more questions about is there
- 1:21:08anything else you need to tell us?
- 1:21:09And the mom says, I think you have asked my daughter enough
- 1:21:13questions, We're going home. And she shuts it down.
- 1:21:15And then the sheriff's deputy, deputy, she puts on this big
- 1:21:18smile like, yeah, you tell him. Shakes her head Yes, a little
- 1:21:22bit. Right.
- 1:21:23So then they walk out to the car, and as they're getting in
- 1:21:26the car, Jody looks across the street and she thinks she sees
- 1:21:29Mr. Marlston dressed as Laura Lee Sherman.
- 1:21:31But then a school bus passes by and he's gone.
- 1:21:34No way. Can't.
- 1:21:35Believe it. Is there going to be a Cherry
- 1:21:37Falls 2? No.
- 1:21:42Thank God. So then the final shot is we see
- 1:21:46the actual Cherry Falls because there's a waterfalls thing with
- 1:21:49a river and it turns blood red. And it's a very poor digital
- 1:21:54coloring. Yes, it like slowly creeps in
- 1:21:57over the water. All right, So what are your
- 1:22:01thoughts on the movie Dan? This was a poorly written piece
- 1:22:05of shit. God.
- 1:22:07Like I said throughout the whole thing, it was weird.
- 1:22:10The adults were too much into the kids sex lives.
- 1:22:13The idea of a virgin killer was dumb.
- 1:22:19Now don't get me wrong, you know I I tend not to try to blame the
- 1:22:23actors for for certain pieces because they can only do what
- 1:22:28they're being directed to do. Unless like, they're really,
- 1:22:31really bad actors, then you can put the blame on them.
- 1:22:35But for the most part, the directors and the screenwriters,
- 1:22:38they, they fucked this movie up pretty bad.
- 1:22:43You know, unlike Fever Lake, this one doesn't have a story.
- 1:22:47You know, the senior lake, you know, we both agreed that it
- 1:22:49does have a story in there, that if it was done properly it could
- 1:22:53have been a really decent movie. But this didn't.
- 1:22:56This had nothing redeeming to it.
- 1:22:58The only thing I can say is that it was watchable at least at
- 1:23:02least the second time because I fell asleep the first time.
- 1:23:06It was confusing through most of it.
- 1:23:09I didn't know what was going on, and that was with watching it
- 1:23:12with full attention. Yeah, you don't even know about
- 1:23:16West Virginia. And there was a whole scene.
- 1:23:18Right. And I don't know, it just was
- 1:23:22not, it's not something that I would necessarily recommend, but
- 1:23:27because of the fact that it was somewhat watchable, I would give
- 1:23:31it three cents. OK so I feel like what they were
- 1:23:35trying to do with this movie and I like the idea, but it was
- 1:23:39poorly executed. So in most horror movies,
- 1:23:42especially horror movies about the 80's, the virgins were the
- 1:23:46ones that lived. They were the ones that, for
- 1:23:48whatever reason, the slasher guy never got.
- 1:23:52They were. The IT was, it was the morality
- 1:23:54of the story. You know, if you were a good
- 1:23:56girl and you know, you eat your vitamins and you know all that
- 1:24:02stuff, and then you'd be, you'd be safe from the killer.
- 1:24:05Right, because the killer knows, right?
- 1:24:08So I feel like what they were trying to do was flip that
- 1:24:11narrative and make it and take that trope that the virgin
- 1:24:14always lives and flip it to where the virgin dies, which
- 1:24:19could have been done if they had done it in a better way.
- 1:24:22They just, it was almost like they wanted it to be a serious
- 1:24:27twist on the trope, but it turned into something kind of,
- 1:24:30it wasn't even campy. It wasn't, it was, I don't know.
- 1:24:33There's some things that were a little too much, of course, like
- 1:24:36all the weird sexual innuendo that and and most of it going
- 1:24:39nowhere. They just, it's like they just
- 1:24:41put it in there to put it in there just because we're so
- 1:24:44dumb. We have to have some sort of
- 1:24:45weird sexual thing going on in every movie we watch.
- 1:24:49I mean, I realize this is coming out of the 80s and the 80s was
- 1:24:52like that where there was a lot of sex and nudity and there
- 1:24:56wasn't any real nudity in this movie either.
- 1:24:58No, no there wasn't. There was.
- 1:24:59There was 11 boob shot. Yeah, that was when the girl,
- 1:25:03the Annette, the dead girl, yeah, she was on the morgue
- 1:25:05table. Yeah.
- 1:25:06So, so I, I think that was what they were trying to do.
- 1:25:09Maybe I'm giving them a little more credit than they're due.
- 1:25:12But at the same time, like with the premise though, like how did
- 1:25:15the teacher know that all these people were virgins?
- 1:25:17Well, that I assumed was because he's a teacher and he hears them
- 1:25:22all talk like when he had the conversation with Jodi in his
- 1:25:25room when she was handing in the paper after she excited TS
- 1:25:28Eliot. She's like, is that the way it
- 1:25:30is in real life? Is it always so sad and glum and
- 1:25:33nobody finds the right person or whatever shit she was saying?
- 1:25:36And he assumed that she was upset because of the break up
- 1:25:39with Kenny And he said, I realize you and Kenny just
- 1:25:42recently broke up and she gets all pissy.
- 1:25:43She's like what you think I'm just all my whole life is just
- 1:25:46based around one boy and that's what my whole life is.
- 1:25:49So he obviously hears things. And I, my mom, she used to be a
- 1:25:52substitute teacher and she was like, you would not believe the
- 1:25:55shit that kids talk about openly in front of teacher in school.
- 1:25:58She's like, it's see the stuff I know about these kids.
- 1:26:01So, so he would know, I think based on just what you know,
- 1:26:06kids are talking about. So I, I do think that part would
- 1:26:09work. But I still think that like the
- 1:26:12whole thing with Annette, how does he know?
- 1:26:14I mean, yeah, Annette was really upset that the guy said that she
- 1:26:18gave him a Hummer, which doesn't make her a not a virgin, I
- 1:26:21guess. But how he knows that was true
- 1:26:24or not true or if they didn't engage in sex, if that did
- 1:26:27happen, like how did he know specifically that that did or
- 1:26:30didn't happen? I don't know.
- 1:26:31Just because she was super upset about it doesn't mean that it
- 1:26:34didn't happen. Whatever.
- 1:26:36So I think that's what they were trying to do.
- 1:26:39They just didn't do it. Well, they're they, it was
- 1:26:43almost, I don't know if it was like satirical, maybe like
- 1:26:46because it wasn't campy, but it was almost like it was a, a
- 1:26:48weird satire maybe that they didn't really execute because
- 1:26:53there were lines in there that they said that they thought that
- 1:26:56they did on purpose, but they just didn't land the way I think
- 1:26:59they land. Like split?
- 1:27:02Yeah, like that one and just some of the over the top stuff
- 1:27:05that they did it just, I don't know, it was like they were
- 1:27:07trying to make an 80s slasher film in reverse and it just or
- 1:27:12reverse engineer it in some way or or whatever, I don't know.
- 1:27:15But it just didn't. It just didn't work it.
- 1:27:16Didn't land. Yeah, I would probably give this
- 1:27:20and again, yeah, the ACT by the way, the acting was fine except
- 1:27:23for honestly, I didn't really I don't know how much I liked
- 1:27:26Brittany Murphy's acting. Just speak and it may not even
- 1:27:28be her fault and it was probably direction because of all the
- 1:27:31weird daddy and this the sultry over because she was really
- 1:27:35played up the big eyes sultry pouty look a lot and it was just
- 1:27:40too much. But it could have just been that
- 1:27:42was the way they directed her to do it, but they wanted her it to
- 1:27:44be that over the top, sultry, sexy 415 year old, you know,
- 1:27:49virgin, whatever. I don't know.
- 1:27:53I don't know. I don't know who they were
- 1:27:54trying to appeal to in this movie, but I would probably give
- 1:27:57it maybe 2 1/2 three cents. I'd probably be right in there
- 1:28:02with you. Like was better than this.
- 1:28:04I won't say that for sure. Again, not a bad movie for a
- 1:28:11thriller. I wouldn't classify it as
- 1:28:13horror. Cherry Falls or Lake Mungo.
- 1:28:15Lake Mungo no Cherry Falls is just sucks all around.
- 1:28:18Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. So, all right.
- 1:28:21So do you have anything else you'd like to add or are we
- 1:28:23wrapping? This put a sock on it, we can
- 1:28:25put. A sock on it.
- 1:28:27Now we're leaving Cherry Falls, a towel that responds to trauma,
- 1:28:30secrecy, and bad leadership by making everything worse.
- 1:28:33And in two weeks, where we headed to Dan.
- 1:28:36All the boys love Mandy Lane all.
- 1:28:38The boys love Mandy Lane. Where can we see this movie?
- 1:28:41Where can we see it? YouTube.
- 1:28:45Yes, YouTube. Yeah, YouTube was the only place
- 1:28:47we could find it. They had to do some funky stuff
- 1:28:50to make it bypass the copyright, but it's there, Yeah.
- 1:28:55It's a movie that asks a much simpler question than Cherry
- 1:28:57Falls did. What if everyone agrees someone
- 1:28:59is perfect and that turns out to be the problem?
- 1:29:02So join us next week for jealousy, entitlement, and a
- 1:29:05body count that doesn't require a town meeting, a flyer for
- 1:29:08several. Wildly irresponsible adults.
- 1:29:11Until then, be scared, be prepared, and don't get caught
- 1:29:15in the dark.