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The Only Dating App That Understands Kink with Pieter of BeeDee App · The Kink Consultant

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It's the King Consultant podcast where we're turning up the heat
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on all things kink and dating, relationships and pop culture.
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So close the door, plug in your headphones, and let's get down
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to it. Hey everyone, and welcome to
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this week's episode of the King Consultant Podcast.
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I am joined by Peter of BD App and it's BD Apps, second time on
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the podcast. So welcome back, Peter.
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Thank you, Amanda. A lot has happened since, so I'm
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very happy to be back. Yeah, so for anyone who hasn't
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been following the podcast from the beginning, BD app is a
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specialty dating app for people who are into BDSM.
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And I think it's safe to say that you guys are probably the
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most popular BDSM dating app, right?
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Definitely the only dating app based on the BDSM test in
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collaboration with and virtually everyone has taken the test and
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we use the test results to connect you to compatible
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people. Skipping all the small talk and
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the experience. I've had myself on other kinky
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dating apps where everyone there is just kinky and that's the
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whole filter. So I've had the experience
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myself that I go on kinky dating apps and I need to swipe away
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half the profiles because they're of dominance and I'm
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more dominant myself. So that's likely not going to be
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a good fit. And that whole idea and that
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whole experience that started this journey behind the BD app,
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because if everyone takes the BDSM test, we already know who's
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dominant, who's submissive, who's into X&Y, and we can pair
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them up because hey, you're into similar things, maybe you should
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have a chat. Hey, you're into incompatible
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things. Maybe you should look at
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different profiles. That is something that I've
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experienced because obviously since you guys launched and
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you're now fully on the Apple Store, which is I think a really
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important note that we're going to get into, but I want everyone
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to know they can get it anywhere.
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I've been using the app and I actually a few months ago, I did
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meet someone on the app. We dated for a few months and we
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had a high match percentage and that proved true in the bedroom
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and outside of the bedroom. So I've already had a good
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experience on the app and I love it because it's just such an
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easy way to compare For anyone who's taken the test, people
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might not even realize they've taken the test before.
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You answer sometimes just 40 questions about your preferences
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and then you get the percentage match of what you most are to
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what you least are, like dominant, brat, taste
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submissive, and it gives you different percentages.
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But my favorite part is you can just answer the dominant ones.
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You can just answer the submissive ones, or you can
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answer everything and it gives you your percentage of dominance
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and submission. It's a really broad test, right?
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It's not submissive. It's also master slave.
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It's also rope Bunny and rigor. It's also vanilla versus
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experimentalists. Yeah, there's lots of things in
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there. And when we calculate how
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compatible two people are, we look every combination of those
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percentages. OK so I recently met someone not
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on the app but I did make him take the test.
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I made him download the app. We set our parameters really
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small so that we'd be guaranteed to at least see each other.
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So I had him download the test. I realized for myself in using
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it that even though I'm slightly switchy, I knew that I didn't
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want to end up with a sub. I was looking for a Dom.
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So I redid the test and I only answered the submissive
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questions so that I was being paired with more doms.
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That was my personal hack of like, OK, what am I looking for?
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This is how to get it. So when he did it, he only
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answered the dominant ones. He's not a switch.
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And we ended up being a 97% match.
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We had figured that out before, but I think it was cool for the
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VDSM test and actually when he set up his profile even there
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are a ton of different profiles in the area we're in.
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I was this first match because we were pretty high.
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So that was like my personal story of how accurate I think it
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is, but also has been for a lot of the people I've matched with.
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I know more vanilla couples where I think, oh, why don't
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both of you take the BDSM tests and see if you're compatible?
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And I see a lot of vanilla couples that they're less
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focused on their sexual life, but having a conversation of,
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oh, I never knew that you like me taking the leads, for
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example, that conversation could spice up your sex life and make
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your sex life a lot better as a couple.
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Because I feel like a lot of vanilla couples are shying away
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from the topic of sexuality and BDSM, and maybe they shouldn't.
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What's wrong with having a good discussion of it, especially if
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it could improve your life so much?
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Absolutely. So I don't know if I mentioned
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this before, but obviously I'm a sex and relationship coach.
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I specialize in kink and I get a lot of couples where one person
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is kinky and the other isn't. And something I do is I send
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them both the BDSM test, especially for the non kinky or
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the person who thinks they're not kinky.
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I send it to them to show them like hey, you might be more
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interested in some of this stuff than you think.
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So it's really cool then to get on the BD app and like I did
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with this person I met, just see, OK, how compatible are we?
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Absolutely, but you could also take it one step further.
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Give the BDSM test to people who don't have a partner yet, and if
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they have any kings that they want to explore but they don't
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know who to explore it with, BT might be the right place to go
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looking for that person. Oh, that's a really good point.
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Yeah, because I also have single clients as well.
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In my experience, they do know what they're into.
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But you're right, I think we all discover a little bit more,
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especially when we do what's called populating the menu.
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There are kinks and interests on there that I would never have
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really associated myself with. I don't really relate to being a
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slave, but then like my percentage on slave was higher
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than I expected it to be because of how it's presented in the
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app. I'm like, Oh yeah, I could be
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into this more than I think. But I do have a bone to pick
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with you. A serious 1.
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I don't think the test and the dating app is set up correctly
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to assess the bratiness of dominance.
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OK, I have a sample size of 1 to complain about.
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But I would like to bring this up.
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The person I did it with and the person I'm seeing right now is
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truly, and I'm not being facetious here, this isn't a
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hyperbole. He's a way bigger breath than me
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but because I'm submissive and he is dominant, his bratiness
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only came up at 10%. And personally I think Dom's are
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the biggest brats I know so I have a bone to pick about me
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getting like 70% brat and him getting 10%.
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I think some stuff needs to be fixed there.
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A bit very meta here. The BDSM test is not very hard
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to decipher, so if you want to get a certain result, it's quite
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easy to get to a certain result. And what is more bratier than
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even though you are a complete brat, scoring very low on Brad
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to prove a point. So I think your friends did
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that. Yeah, he probably did.
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No. I think your friends did this on
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purpose for being a Bratz. I literally would not put it
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past this guy but again, flaw on the test.
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I need you to be able to pull out the brattiest of brats and
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be like put them on display. I just think we need to add
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another filter to the brat question.
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He definitely did it on purpose though.
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I think we need to find a way for people to enter the BDSM
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test and punish them for giving a wrong answer.
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All right, now you're on to something.
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I'm down with this because I do think, yeah, we still came out
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as a 97% match, and maybe we would have been a lower match if
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I found out what a big brat he was through the percentage.
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But yeah, that's my one complaint is that I think Dons
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are the biggest brats. And you say it's easy to
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decipher. But like, another thing I've
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noticed is sometimes some questions that I don't think
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mattered as much. And we talked about them in the
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first episode. And this one still boggles my
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mind. I think it's something like how
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likely we are, How interested would you be in turning your
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back on the world and going into this full time time?
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Do you know that question that one scares people to feel like
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who would do this? And I'm like me?
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I guess what would does that indicate is that?
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Slit on top of my head, but I would guess that indicates
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experimentalists. I know that in the past the BDSM
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test had a lot more questions and iterated over the set of
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questions multiple times to figure out which question was
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the strongest indicator for each of the groups, and that must
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have been a question that strongly indicated one of the
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groups. My guess would be
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experimentalist, but I'm not him I'm sure.
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OK. That question always throws
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people a little bit because it's like who would do this?
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It's like a lot of people. And then something that is less
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applicable to me. But I do enjoy that you have in
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there is percentage of monogamy versus non monogamy.
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And I think that's really helpful because there's a high
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overlap of kinky people who are non monogamous.
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I do not count as one of those people, but I like seeing that I
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am able to disqualify people or have a lower percentage match
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with them. And oftentimes if I see a
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dominant on there that I'm not is highly matched with, I
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already know I'm like, they're into non monogamy and that's
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just not me. So I love that's pointed out
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too. That's part of the reason why we
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have multiple relationship forms that you could be open to or not
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open to to single. Hey I'm only looking for a
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monogamous relationship or I'm polyamorous and I already have a
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relationship so I'm only looking for play partners or friends
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with benefits. So at a glance you can see, oh,
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these people are only looking for something non monogamous and
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I'm only looking for something monogamous.
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I'm going to skip this profile. Or maybe you say, oh, I have a
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very high match percentage. Let's chat and let's see if it's
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really such a nonstarter for the two of us.
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I've seen a lot of couples where one of the two people didn't
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match one of the criteria of the other people.
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But once I started chatting, I was like, yeah, but I like the
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guy so much on all the other criteria.
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I just really like the guy. Let's go for it.
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So I would like to say to everyone in the dating scene, be
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a bit more open and give people the chance to have a chat with
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you. Literally just have a 5 minute
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conversation over chat and see how you vibe.
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I think we should lower the bar for having a match and having 10
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messages back and forth, and then again put the bar high for
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any committed relationships. Absolutely, but pretty really
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low for just exchanging 5 messages.
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Oh, I agree with that completely.
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Like you need to be open to things.
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And I mean, that's how I ended up with the friends with
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benefits. He scored quite high on non
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monogamy and I was lower on it obviously.
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And I say friends with benefits, which is an unfair title because
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we were exclusive friends with benefits and that was something
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we negotiated. I was like, listen, I don't want
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this with other people. Interesting point though.
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It's also worth having conversations like that because
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in my world, in the world of kink, a lot of us might be play
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Polly, meaning we'll play with other people, but sexually
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That's something I really love about the King Cambias and
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community. To draw from my own experience,
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like over 10 years ago, I had a really good date with someone.
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We ended up kissing, and then I didn't know what our status was
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for multiple days until she confirmed that she regarded us
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as being in a relationship just from having had that kiss, which
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is fair. And I wanted to be in a
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relationship with her at that time.
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So I was really happy with knowing that that, but it's
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really awkward. And I really like about the BDSM
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community that it's just so open and having a conversation.
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What exactly are we? Are you open to X?
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Are you open to Y? Can I do X with other people?
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Can I do Y with other people? And I think it's really
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important for every couple to have that conversation.
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And if two people decide, oh, we're gonna be completely
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monogamous in the old fashioned way, absolutely.
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But why not have that conversation and find the
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relationship form that both of you are really happy with?
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I know I agree completely. I talk about this day in, day
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out and it's just the level of communication that you need to
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have. It's a really good template for
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how to have other conversations around relationship and that's
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what's special. Do you know it's been a year?
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That's like it was a year ago. Yeah.
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I don't know if you know this, but I have BD app to thank for
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my podcast. I took the BDSM test years ago
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and I just happened to get an e-mail saying we have a dating
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app, it's coming out and they were looking for volunteers and
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I emailed and I was like, OK, I want to help.
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Admittedly, I got busy then start starting a business being
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the King consultant is a little busy.
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So someone booked a console call with me and said we want you to
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help us promote BDF and we're launching And I just thought, Oh
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my God, that's amazing. We spoke to the creator of the
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test and no one had ever spoken to him.
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What a scoop. And I have this opportunity.
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So whoever I was talking to on your marketing team, I was like,
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you know what, I'm starting a podcast.
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You guys should be the first guests on the podcast.
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Up until this point, Peter, there was number podcast.
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There was number idea of me starting a podcast.
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This opportune moment of I was like, I need to get this
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interview. I want to be the person who gets
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the scoop. Let me start a podcast.
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So thank you to BDF for some amazing fun experiences.
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And then also this podcast existing in the 1st place isn't
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that crazy. It's absolutely wonderful.
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I love that story and it just reminds me of how I started with
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PD2. Like I found myself freshly
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made, redundant, freshly single. I had been wanting to start my
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own project and a company and a startup for over 10 years.
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And suddenly I had a chat with creator of the BDSM test saying,
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oh, I have a lot more people than I ever expected to take the
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BDSM test. But the value I bring them is I
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bring them value for 5 minutes, they take the test and then I
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don't see them again for probably years afterwards.
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What can I build to give more value to them?
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When we started chatting and before wrong, we had the idea of
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building a dating app where everyone takes the BDSM test and
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we use the BDSM test to find people, the best profiles first.
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And yeah, it's been 3 1/2 years or just 2022.
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OK. So yeah, nearly four years.
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So yeah, it's, it's been nearly four years and I spent on this
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project and it's amazing. I never dreamt of actually
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getting my own company, launching it, getting a team
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around it, but only because I was able to build something that
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didn't exist yet and I was able to bring value to people.
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That's why it took me 10 years to launch my own project.
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I didn't want to build a copy of something that's already existed
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and tell people mine is better when it isn't.
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I wanted to build something new and bring value, and people
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weren't able to connect to other people through the BDSM test
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yet, and that's what we've brought to people.
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And yeah, you can see like you found the friends with benefits
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through BD. We recently had our first
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engagements announced from people who know each other
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through BD. I can't wait for the 1st BD baby
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to be born. But no, it's gonna happen sooner
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or later. It warms my heart to hear that
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there is a couple who are now engaged who met here because we
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know the struggle of meeting someone who's into kink like fat
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life wasn't created to be a dating app.
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They openly talk about how they're not a dating app and
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people want to connect, they want to meet like minded
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partners and now BDA exists for that and people are meeting each
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other and that's just one engagement.
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I'm sure more people that you know about is my point.
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That's one you know about, but I'm sure there are more.
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And Fat Life is trying to be the Facebook for the BDSM community,
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which I think they're doing amazing at, but you can't be the
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Facebook and the Tinder at the same time.
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So absolutely right that they're saying we want to do 1 and not
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the other. We're seeing the same.
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We BD is not trying to be the Facebook for the BDSM community.
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We're trying to be the Tinder for the BDSM community.
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I really hope that we're doing a better job at connecting the
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right people than Fat Life is. I've been there myself,
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scrolling through local fat Life profiles, and it just gives you
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a list and you need to go through the whole list to find
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people with the right sexual orientation, with the right
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gender. And then half of them are
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dominant. It takes you ages to find people
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who are suitable, who are compatible to you, and then you
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need to reach out. And then 90% of the time they're
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not interested, so they're never replying to your DMS Fair game.
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If they're not interested, they would be wasting each other's
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time. But on BD it's just so more
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efficient. I immediately see the right
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profiles. I can send them alike.
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I don't need to write up a whole introduction of myself because
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I'll see if they like my profile back, and once they do, then
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I'll introduce myself. So yeah, I really hope that on
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BD it's a lot easier to find each other than it is on
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Fetlife. Oh, it definitely is.
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And I've met people into kinks that I would never have really
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explored before without this, like hypno kink, right?
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Someone who's like, oh, I really specialize in this.
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And I think it's so interesting because I'm getting exposed to
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people who match me at a high enough percentage, and then they
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might have a separate interest. I think I mentioned this on
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every episode. I have a discipline and
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punishment fetish, right? I'm kinky overall, though, so
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that's just my favorite. It gives me a chance to meet
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people who I probably wouldn't cross paths with otherwise.
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It's on the limitation of BD and therefore the BDSM test is that
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we are currently testing across I think 19 different
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stereotypes. But we don't have every single
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kink in existence in that list. We don't have hypno kink.
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We don't have feet kink. The reason behind that is that
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if we were to test for all of that or just ask yes, no, are
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you into it? It would need to be a list of
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hundreds of questions and for us to do the matching up correctly,
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everyone would need to answer hundreds of questions and that's
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just not scalable and not feasible.
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The BDSM test is already one of the longest things you need to
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do on the dating app to create an account.
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We already know that's one of our weaknesses, but therefore we
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can't open up the BDSM tests to, with all due respect, more niche
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kings. But I think the BDSM test with
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its flaws is a great conversation starter.
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And then you can go from there and say, Oh yeah, I'm a switch
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and I have a big hypno kink. But on that hypno kink, I'm only
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on the receiving end or something.
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So that's can be a great starting point.
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And any other specific kings that are really important to
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you, you can have a conversation about that.
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You can add it in your bio or you can start a conversation
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about that with your match. Yeah.
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And I think it is a strength because it's just exploratory.
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Like you said, we need to be more open minded, keep the bar
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low for who you have a conversation with.
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So that allows that to happen. And here's the other thing that
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I really enjoy, and I hope you guys are keeping this.
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You have to scroll to the bottom of the profile to reject or
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accept. And what that does is it forces
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people to just go a little bit deeper on someone.
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I've been on Tinder and just swipe left on someone who
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honestly, after I swipe left, I'm like, oh shit, they were
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kind of cute. I wish I could go back and had I
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just taken more than a second to scroll a little bit, I think I
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would have swiped right. So it refrains how we play the
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dating game. Absolutely.
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That's the reason behind this feature because when you first
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see a profile, you see name, age compatibility percentage and a
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picture. And I think to reject someone
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just based on that is a bit quick.
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So we've made people to at least take the action to Scroll down
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past their BIOS, past their test results.
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And maybe every once in a while you'll see oh, but if they score
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high on this and that or if they mention this in their bio, maybe
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I should give them a chance. If one in 100 profiles gets that
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extra chance, then that's worth it.
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And if you're really put off by the main picture, it takes half
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a second to Scroll down and tap no, I don't think that half a
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second matches that much. But it also disincentivize
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mostly straight men on Tinder opening Tinder saying yes, yes,
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yes, yes, yes. Then you get a match with
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someone and they're not starting the conversation.
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They don't have anything interesting on their profile.
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And that's also something we want to disincentivize by
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telling those people, if you're a non paid account, you only get
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10 likes free per day. So pick them out.
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And by having to scroll through the profile, it makes it harder
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to just say yes, yes, yes, yes on every profile and not look at
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it. It makes you invested like, Oh
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yeah, this is a profile I'm invested in.
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If I'm going to match with this person, I'm going to talk to
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them. I'm going to say something to
19:52
them. That's also something that we
19:53
hope to accomplish with that feature.
19:55
Hey, I have a secret I'm finally ready to talk about.
19:59
I've never really been a vibes girl.
20:02
I know. Shocking coming from the King
20:03
consultant. But that's changing.
20:06
I'm teaming up with my friends at Babe Land for an 8 week self
20:09
pleasure journey. Every Friday I'm trying a new
20:12
toy and sharing what I learned about my body, my pleasure, and
20:15
what actually feels good. If you want to follow along,
20:17
check out my Friday Vibe series on Instagram and Substack.
20:21
And while you're here, check the show notes for my most recent
20:23
review. Keep on kinking on.
20:26
Yeah, it 100% sets you up for deeper connections.
20:29
OK, so last time we spoke, the other thing that came up was you
20:33
guys were only on Google Play Store, which was a big deal
20:36
because a lot of my followers loved the episode, but they were
20:39
like, how do I get on it? It was slightly clunky because
20:42
you weren't in the Apple Store, but you are now.
20:44
Tell me about how you ended up in the App Store.
20:47
Yes, I'm a little bit invested in this story.
20:49
So last time we were featured on here, you had a chat with Brad
20:52
from Meet Kingsters, who had a dating app to bring kinky people
20:56
to together. Because of us both appearing on
20:58
the same podcast, we had a chat like, hey, we're doing something
21:02
very similar. Maybe we should join forces,
21:05
which we ended up doing. We joined forces with Meet
21:08
Kingsters. And through that, the BD app is
21:11
now available on the Apple App Store, all because of this
21:14
podcast. So thank you so much, Amanda.
21:17
All right, love it, but also love it because it meant that
21:20
more people have access to VD and I'm happy that I was able to
21:23
be part of that. And obviously love Brad from me
21:26
Kingsters too. It's just amazing to bring
21:28
people together and make better things happen in the kink world.
21:32
I mean, we're that engaged couple.
21:33
I wonder if they met on the Apple App or the Google One
21:36
question for another time, though.
21:38
OK, that's awesome. They did want to talk about
21:40
fields, but you kind of touched on it already.
21:42
Did I tell you they didn't made a horrible mistake?
21:44
No what? They launched A Desires feature
21:46
where you can enter what you desire.
21:48
One of the desires was being submissive or being dominant,
21:51
and then once I entered that, I was being shown dominant
21:55
profiles because we have something in common, namely,
21:58
both of you wants to be dominant.
22:00
Can you make that mistake that two people being dominant is
22:03
something you have in common? That's not understanding your
22:06
community. No, I think it was a tick the
22:08
box exercise for them. Have they fixed that?
22:11
I don't know, I'm not on field. OK, good to know they at least
22:14
figured it out. But you're right, I find field
22:16
if you are looking for an alternative more open thing,
22:20
sure, but the kink is just not there and that's why I'm not on
22:23
it anymore. It's always been really
22:24
important for me to meet someone kinky.
22:26
That's why I love BDF. That's why I love niching down
22:29
this much because I'm like OK, if everyone I date is kinky then
22:32
at least I can find someone who matches me best on a personality
22:35
level too. That's the difficulty, right?
22:38
Do you have any advice for people who are trying to date
22:40
kinky? Obviously yes, download the app
22:43
and use BD. But what other tips do you love
22:45
to give people on how to meet someone that's.
22:47
A great question. And by the way, I mean how to
22:49
have a successful relationship, What kind of questions ask, say,
22:52
two people match on BDF. What's your advice?
22:54
What's the best way to go about that as a dating app?
22:57
So whenever I match someone, my focus is what do we have in
23:01
common? Do I enjoy that this person also
23:04
enjoys not on what is missing. If you have 5 kings and this
23:08
person matches four, I would focus on, oh, we have 4 things
23:11
in common. There's four things I can enjoy
23:13
in my relationship with this person instead of focusing on,
23:15
Oh yeah, there's one thing I would miss if I settle down for
23:18
this person because we're all idealist.
23:21
We all think of dreaming. We all dream of marrying a
23:23
Disney Prince or a Disney Princess, but no one of us is
23:27
going to find that person. So try to focus on the things
23:30
that you do have in common. Yeah, the truth is, being
23:32
realistic is your best bet at being happy.
23:34
This is something we talked about last time.
23:36
In a previous life, I worked in e-mail marketing.
23:39
I was really big into data around marketing.
23:42
One of the projects I worked on was the end of your e-mail recap
23:45
of who watched the most Peacock shows or what type of shows
23:48
everyone was watching and sending that out.
23:49
Do you have fun stats like that? We recently made our 100,000
23:53
match on BD and we see that there's been more than 1.2
23:58
million messages sent on BD that is.
24:00
Awesome, I have my own crackpot theories.
24:03
I think I may have said this before.
24:04
The best Dom's I've ever had used Android.
24:07
I know that's an insane thing to say but I'm telling you the guy
24:10
I matched with, the friends with benefits the person here.
24:14
Everyone uses Android and I want to know if you have more
24:17
dominant profiles on Android or on Apple.
24:20
And I think that you should send out a recap e-mail at the end of
24:23
the year with some of these fun BD wrapped like a Spotify
24:27
wrapped except for BD because Pornhub does it too they say.
24:30
What are the most common kinks in different areas?
24:32
We're working on newsletter and that would be amazing idea to
24:35
have statistics like that in the newsletter and send it out on a
24:39
monthly basis or end of year recap.
24:41
That's definitely something we're looking into.
24:43
You strike me as someone who'd be good at pulling these
24:46
statistics together and being able to send them out, so I'm
24:49
hoping that this does come along because it's my favorite thing.
24:52
I love knowing what the most commonly searched kink or porn
24:55
is in every state. If we could do it by country or
24:58
something. Or what country has the most
25:00
dominance versus submissives or people have questions, Peter, We
25:03
have questions like how many people are dominant versus
25:06
submissive. And I think the answer is there
25:08
are probably 3 Subs to every Dom or maybe 2 Subs to every Dom.
25:12
I think it is your obligation to share that out once you have it.
25:15
I think Poland and Greece were like the most kinky countries in
25:19
Europe in terms of scoring the highest averages on the BDSM
25:22
tests, and I think Brazil and Argentina also scored quite
25:26
high. No way.
25:27
OK, I need to be in a planning meeting Peter like I am in
25:31
myself right now. I have tons of stats.
25:33
I also want to know what star signs like what astrology sign.
25:37
If you could just give me the birthdays and I would work it
25:39
out for you. I will figure out what star
25:42
signs prefer what type of king. I'm getting very passionate.
25:45
About it because these. Are the answers I need and I
25:47
view BD app as the group that has it.
25:50
So now that I'm like seeing someone who's obviously a 97%
25:53
match, now I'm interested in the statistics around it.
25:56
I get asked this all the time. I want to know what country has
25:59
the most dominant personalities. So hey everyone, you're hearing
26:01
it here first. If you are going on vacation in
26:04
Europe and you're looking for some kinky fun, you probably
26:06
have a higher chance if you go to Poland or Greece.
26:08
And who doesn't want to go to Greece?
26:09
After this meeting, you're gonna book a holiday to Greece.
26:12
I can't. I'm seeing someone, but had I
26:14
known this last summer when I was in Greece, I probably would
26:16
have been on the app a lot more. OK, so if I see Instagram
26:20
pictures of you in Greece, I'm gonna assume that you're single
26:23
and you're trying to find your next person.
26:25
My next person. But you know what actually adds
26:27
up here? When I was in Greece and I was
26:30
posting photos on Instagram, I was in Italy and then Greece
26:33
last summer. I got a ton of messages when I
26:35
was in Greece of people saying, Oh my God, you're in my country,
26:38
welcome. And I'm like, no one did that in
26:40
Italy, but everyone did it in Greece.
26:42
So I believe this. That's my real world experience
26:45
of what you're describing. But in all seriousness, please
26:48
bring me in on a meeting to discuss.
26:49
This is what I did at Peacock. We literally sat down and
26:52
decided what stats are we gonna dig into to share with people?
26:56
And this would just need to be broad.
26:57
So my Co founder and founder of the test is amazing and that
27:01
kind of things. He does that for his full time
27:03
job constantly. At one point in the past we
27:05
actually had a spat because he was digging up this graphics and
27:08
I was like, we have more important and more urgent stuff
27:11
to do. Why are you pouring hours of
27:12
your work into that? And he was like adjusted that up
27:14
in like 7 minutes. That would be hours worth of
27:17
work for me. How do you do that in 7 minutes?
27:19
So yeah, we actually have someone in the house who's great
27:23
at that kind of stuff. So we do need to drill down and
27:27
make social media content with it and put an e-mail list
27:31
together. Yeah, I don't know if you know,
27:33
but I'm pretty good at what's popular on social media.
27:36
So tag me and Coach, I want to be in that meeting.
27:39
Sounds like a broader conversation needs to have after
27:42
the this recording of the post. You open to having that?
27:45
Discussion. Well, I'm gonna force my way
27:47
into that conversation, OK? Speaking of what's popular on
27:50
social media, I know that there are certain trends.
27:52
I think that my own popularity grew because there's more
27:55
mainstreaming of kink in general.
27:58
I'm assuming you've noticed that too since you guys four years
28:01
ago. More people are open to the idea
28:03
of kink now. Changed that much in the past
28:06
four years, but if I go back in time to when 50 Shades movies
28:12
launched, I don't know what it did in the US, but in Europe
28:15
that was a huge talking point and I was involved with the
28:18
student community in Ghent with the name Kajira.
28:22
We were the first student organization around PDSM to be
28:26
recognized in Europe, and that happened in 2013 during the
28:29
period of the movies of 50 Shades of Grey coming out.
28:32
Well, say what you want about those movies, they don't always
28:36
depict BDSM in a very consensual way, and there was a lot of
28:40
miscommunication of how important consent should be in a
28:44
good BDSM setting. And if you strive away from
28:47
consent, you should have had lengthy discussions about that
28:50
beforehand. In the wake of that, we really
28:52
saw BDSM being something you could talk about to your parents
28:57
or to your colleagues. We did see that change, at least
29:00
in in Europe, massively just over 10 years ago.
29:03
Yeah, so I think it brought the conversation into the
29:06
mainstream. I mean, I was kinky before those
29:09
books came out. I've been kinky, I say, my whole
29:11
life. But I love what it did for
29:12
bringing it forward. And I know that there were some
29:15
outlier things. I just also know that I get
29:17
really up in arms with the old guard people who blame 50 Shades
29:21
for a lot of people getting into kink.
29:23
But I think it only helped advance things.
29:25
It brought the conversation forward, like you're saying.
29:28
It brought it to light and a lot of people discovered the desire
29:31
they already have because of 50 Shades.
29:33
It doesn't mean that 50 Shades made them be into BDSM, it means
29:37
that it made them discover they were already into BDSM, but they
29:41
didn't know that of themselves yet.
29:43
Yeah, it gave them permission to explore all of these things.
29:46
Absolutely. OK, so Peter, what is next for
29:49
BDF? You guys have already come so
29:51
far in the year since we last spoke.
29:53
What can I expect next for BDF? We will be bringing a feature
29:57
where you can see people from the same country first.
30:00
I know that people living in southern Texas, for example,
30:03
have been requesting this for a while because they want to see
30:05
people in the US before seeing people over the border in
30:08
Mexico. We are also going to bring
30:10
Incognito mode where paid members can swipe others and
30:14
only being shown to the people they have already liked.
30:19
So for people who want to be on the app but don't want a lot of
30:22
people to see their profiles, it gives them control over who can
30:26
see them. And the other thing that we will
30:28
be bringing in the next few months is to travel mode where
30:32
if you're going to Greece in a couple of months and you already
30:34
want to start connections on BD there, I know that you're very
30:37
interested in that you can put your location on BD in Greece
30:42
and connect with people there already.
30:44
I love that and I honestly am most excited.
30:46
I know that kink is open as I am about it.
30:49
A lot of people are still very private and shy about their kink
30:52
lives, so that Incognito mode is going to be really helpful to
30:56
allow more people to explore this.
30:57
I'm most excited about that one for people because it will me to
31:01
talk to my own clients and even followers and talk about how
31:04
that's a great option if they are feeling shy but they still
31:07
want to explore. They didn't want to put their
31:09
face on it because they didn't know who would see it.
31:11
So for those people, if they use the Incognito modes, they can
31:15
now put their face on it because they're in control of who can
31:18
see their profile. Love that.
31:20
OK, that's amazing. All right, I can't wait until
31:22
all of those features come out. And of course, this will not be
31:25
your last time on the podcast because I want to keep this
31:28
relationship going. I'm so happy BD is in the world
31:31
and I think my only sadness is that it didn't come out sooner.
31:34
Like I wish I was using BD app to date in my 20s but here we
31:37
are. So thank you so much.
31:39
Thanks for all the work you guys are doing at BD App.
31:41
It's so meaningful and important, especially for the
31:43
community. Thank you for having us on here
31:46
again and shouting us on. It's for the community that we
31:49
do this. So hearing through your mouth
31:51
that we are helping the community connect with the right
31:55
people, that's what keeps us going to build BD into an even
31:59
better. App awesome.
32:00
I'm so glad to hear it. So for anyone who is not already
32:03
on BD app, I really want you to go check it out.
32:06
It's an amazing app. I love that we have this in our
32:08
community. And if you download the app, set
32:11
up an account, you can get one free whip by using code kink
32:14
consultant. So there's no reason to not at
32:17
least go use your one whip. We didn't even talk about this.
32:19
You can heart a profile, you can move it on.
32:22
And then I didn't even explain it.
32:23
A whip is a super like what happens when you super like it?
32:27
Say I use my whip. Does the other person know I
32:29
used it on them? Yes, if you use your whip on me,
32:32
then I will get notification. Hey, Amanda is super interested
32:35
in you. Go do BD to check out her
32:37
profile. And whenever I go to BD, you'll
32:39
be the first profile I see. And you can also optionally add
32:43
a message in it and I will see the message.
32:45
So if you say, oh, Peter, I know that we're physically far away,
32:49
but I really like your beard, then we should connect.
32:52
And then you can type that message and I'll immediately
32:54
know that despite you being far away, you're very interested in
32:58
me and my beards. OK, so there you go.
33:00
So download the app, go to that whips page and use Code King
33:03
consultant to get your free whip so that you can tell someone how
33:06
much you love their beard even if they are 3000 miles away.
33:11
I'll love it. Thanks so much Peter.
33:13
And honestly in the comments, I would love to hear from you if
33:16
you've used BD app, if you've met someone on it, I want to
33:19
hear more. I highly encourage everyone to
33:21
go check it out. If you enjoyed this episode,
33:24
don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with
33:27
anyone who might find it interesting.
33:29
And if you have any questions or topics you'd like me to cover in
33:31
future episodes, feel free to reach out. e-mail
33:34
info@thekingconsultant.com. Until next time, keep on kinking
33:39
on.