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- 0:00The easiest way for a strategy session to get completely derailed is starting with a question like, so what brings you here today?
- 0:10This isn't a counseling session, and it's not my client's responsibility to.
- 0:15Share their entire history up until this point of the information that I might need to know in order to help them make strategic decisions for their marketing.
- 0:25Which is why it's my job to make sure I start and move through all of my strategy work with clients in a very detailed and organized way.
- 0:36And I do that by incorporating a few specific questions into all of my strategy work, so that I can get my clients really to hone in on the heart of the matter, what needs work, what I can help them with, and how we can move through things.
- 0:53These questions have saved my clients.
- 0:55A ton of time and potentially even misguided investments, pursuing strategies that would've never worked.
- 1:04And today I'm gonna share that with you.
- 1:07Hey friend.
- 1:08Welcome back.
- 1:09Last week we talked about what happens in a strategy session.
- 1:14If you haven't listened yet, I highly suggest going back to check it out after this so you understand, not only, the options you have for strategy sessions, but how to get the most of them when you are really ready to be more strategic with your business.
- 1:33Today we're staying on the topic of strategy, and we're gonna go a little bit deeper into it by talking about five specific questions that I ask every single client.
- 1:44And I, I really do mean all of my clients, whether they are just starting out, whether they're running seven figure businesses, whether they are, , coming to me for a one-off strategy session or for some longer more intensive strategy work together, or if.
- 2:02Strategies just baked into a different project, like website copy as an example.
- 2:07Here's the thing.
- 2:09In my experience, finding the right solution isn't jumping to quick fixes.
- 2:16It's about asking the right questions that reveal what's really going on beneath the service.
- 2:22And before we begin with those questions, I wanna talk about why they matter.
- 2:29Have you ever had someone come to you saying something like, I don't know, maybe you're a website designer and they say, oh, I need a new website.
- 2:35Or if you're a social media manager, they, come to you and they're like, oh my gosh, I totally need to be on TikTok.
- 2:41My audience is on TikTok.
- 2:43If any of those rules are familiar with to you?
- 2:46What happens is when you dig deeper with these leads, you discover that what they're coming to you for is not necessarily what they need.
- 2:57And that's because we all have a tendency to focus on surface level solutions.
- 3:02We see what others are doing, or let's say we fixate on the most visible problem and we jump straight to a solution without understanding the full picture.
- 3:12I see this all the time.
- 3:14, it could be an , entrepreneur, rushing to invest in solutions that, hmm.
- 3:20I see this happen all the time with leads, with my clients, with colleagues, even in myself.
- 3:26I've done this, but what's happening is it's like taking ibuprofen for a raging toothache.
- 3:34Sure.
- 3:35It could provide you temporary relief, but it's not gonna fix a cavity.
- 3:40Adv, Advil's not gonna give you a root canal.
- 3:43It's just like a bandaid over what's currently happening.
- 3:48The right questions are gonna help you cut through all the noise and reveal what's going on and what needs adjusting.
- 3:56They help us understand context constraints and true objectives.
- 4:03They show us where gaps are, and most importantly, where opportunities lie, and the magic of good questions is that they're not just giving you information, they're creating clarity.
- 4:16So these five questions that I'm sharing, let's look at each one individually.
- 4:21I always start with what is actually working right now and for good reason.
- 4:28Because before we can figure out what needs fixing, I need to know what's already working well.
- 4:35There's a natural tendency to focus on problems.
- 4:39You know, people don't generally book a a one-off strategy session, let's say, because they wanna celebrate their wins.
- 4:45They're booking the calls because they know that there are things that are broken, missing, or just underperforming.
- 4:52But starting our conversation with strengths gives us several advantages.
- 4:58First, it creates a more positive framework for the conversation.
- 5:02Instead of immediately diving into what's wrong, we can acknowledge what's going right, and this sets a really good constructive tone for the entire process.
- 5:12Second, it prevents us from fixing what isn't broken.
- 5:17I can't tell you how many times I've seen businesses abandon practices that were actually working well for them because they're distracted by shiny new tactics.
- 5:29Knowing the wins, knowing these things helps us kind of decide how we move forward.
- 5:36And before I forget, there's another reason why celebrating what's working is important from the beginning, and that's because your current successes are.
- 5:48They have clues about your own unique advantages.
- 5:52, maybe your email open rates are through the roof and your social media.
- 5:57Yeah, it's struggling, but you have super high open rates, awesome.
- 6:02Click through rates and , an email list with people on it who actually respond to you.
- 6:07Knowing this tells us something important about where your audience engages with you, and that's just one example.
- 6:14But again, we find this out by celebrating what's working.
- 6:19And when I ask this question, I don't wanna just hear about like, obvious metrics because it's important to really like push deeper to find out, , , what channels may be bringing their best clients.
- 6:30Not just the most clients, but their best clients, the ones they loved working with.
- 6:36, what offers do they actually like doing?
- 6:39That is key.
- 6:41And I cannot tell you how many website copy projects have been adjusted after we've gotten started because in conversations about their services or their group programs or whatever it is that they offer, they admit to me that they hate doing whatever that particular service is and.
- 7:02Because I think this is an important point.
- 7:04I'm gonna pause here for a second.
- 7:06If you don't like something, you do not have to do it.
- 7:11And I know that sounds so obvious, but I think we, as business owners, neglect sometimes the most obvious things.
- 7:19Um, other things to dig deeper.
- 7:21Where are you getting positive feedback?
- 7:23What parts of your business just feel absolutely effortless?
- 7:29And it's my job as the strategist to look for patterns in these answers.
- 7:34My clients are telling me where their natural strengths lie, and that's pretty precious information for building a sustainable strategy.
- 7:42I. You know, so many people ask copywriters like, how do you, how are you able to write in my voice?
- 7:48Well, we're good listeners and we're good pattern grabbers, so if you can provide us quality information, we can hear your voice, we can hear these patterns and then implement them on our own.
- 8:02All right, let's move on to question two.
- 8:03We've spent en enough time in question one.
- 8:06The next question is, what specific results do you need?
- 8:11And it might sound obvious, but it's really amazing how many people struggle to answer this question clearly because when I first ask this, I think what what tends to happen is I get a lot of vague responses.
- 8:23Like, oh, more sales.
- 8:25I need more sales.
- 8:25Or, you know, I'd really love more engagement.
- 8:28Or,, I just wanna, I just wanna be more visible.
- 8:31But those aren't.
- 8:32Specific results.
- 8:34There are directions, let's say.
- 8:36So for example, if you're coming to me and saying you need more sales, well, how many more sales of what type?
- 8:45, and what are the parameters?
- 8:46Such as like.
- 8:47Buy when or during what timeframe?
- 8:51, , let's say maybe another thing we could dig deeper on is what type of engagement matters to your particular business model.
- 8:59You know, if you are a service provider, you know it doesn't make a difference how many reals you film and keep filming them.
- 9:05If you love making reels, no shame for you.
- 9:08But it does not matter about virality on reels if you're not getting clients from Instagram.
- 9:15So we don't even need to pay attention to that level of engagement when we're talking marketing.
- 9:21If you are not getting the engagement or the leads that you need from that channel.
- 9:28, off of that soapbox, you know, what happens with this question of like the specific results that they need is it forces clarity.
- 9:36It, it just forces them to like stop being fuzzy and start getting concrete targets.
- 9:44And the process of answering the question often reveals what they thought they wanted is not actually what they need, you know?
- 9:53For example, social media is a good one.
- 9:55You know, so many of my clients will say things like, well, now that the website's done, like I really need to double down on my, , Instagram following, or I need to, you know, really go heavy on LinkedIn.
- 10:04And when we discuss the specific results, what they're actually looking for is to convert more of their existing audience into paying clients less.
- 10:15About follower account, less about, you know, likes and clicks and comments and more about the conversion factor of marketing, especially 'cause they have an audience that's already there.
- 10:30You know, it's just that they need to do better of a job of getting that audience to become a paying customer.
- 10:37And I think the other critical aspect of the question before we move on . Is timeline, are we talking about results that you need today?
- 10:47This quarter, this year, or for long-term sustainability because timeline dramatically changes approach.
- 10:57You know, if you need, let's say more sales and more sales fast, you might need to throw money behind, social media ads as an example.
- 11:05Or if you're looking for long-term sustainability, just opposite sides of the spectrum, that's when you double down on SEO.
- 11:13And again, this is not prescriptive advice.
- 11:15This depends on each strategy that is being developed, but knowing the results that they need is the only way we're able to come up with those answers, and finally, before I move on to question three, we just wanna ensure that whatever the desired results are, that they align with.
- 11:35Available resources.
- 11:37And that leads, that leads me to my next question, , which is, what have you tried before?
- 11:44And I, I don't know why, but from what I'm told, like this question is so overlooked in strategy discussions with other providers or one-on-one with themself.
- 11:55If, if they've been doing all of their own strategy, the previous attempts, whether they were successful.
- 12:03Unsuccessful or somewhere in between.
- 12:05They all contain crucial data.
- 12:09They tell us what resonates with the audience, whether they are, you know, a cold audience or your nurtured one.
- 12:16They tell us what implementation challenges you might face, and they tell us what hidden obstacles exist.
- 12:23When clients tell me what they've tried before, here's what I'm listening for.
- 12:28I wanna hear patterns of success or failures across different attempts, , consistency as it relates to implementation.
- 12:37Did they give their strategies enough time?
- 12:39Because, , that is one thing that I see all of the time is that people do not give the strategy the legs that it needs to to go on its own and survive.
- 12:51Before they can make decisions about whether the strategy worked.
- 12:54But back to what I'm listening for, some other things are external factors and, and if those external factors have influenced results.
- 13:02, one of the, the clients I work with actually a few years ago now, we talked about how a launch that she had done, , twice a year.
- 13:10Had been extremely consistent, actually impressively consistent in sales, had a major flop and she, we talked through so many things that related to the flop, you know?
- 13:24Did she change things within the launch?
- 13:26What did she add to the launch?
- 13:27What was different with timeline approach?
- 13:30You know what?
- 13:31You know what it was?
- 13:32It was the fact that she was pregnant and exhausted \ and she, I guess maybe she didn't give herself the grace or , the,\ , perspective to look outside of the actual business, to look at the external factors of you being pregnant, physical changes in her body, emotional changes, and how that influenced how she was able to show up.
- 13:52And, I'm sorry, what am I talking about?
- 13:55Things I listen for.
- 13:56Oh, internal resistant points, because.
- 13:59Sometimes things work, but they don't feel good, so you don't want to replicate that as well.
- 14:06Asking the question about what they've tried before prevents us from repeating mistakes.
- 14:12If it's something that you tried and you, again, maybe it doesn't feel right, you don't want to do that again, it's so much better to know that upfront rather than have me propose it to you as a strategy.
- 14:24But beyond avoiding repetition, understanding past effort really helps you build on what came.
- 14:31So maybe a strategy wasn't completely wrong, but it needs refinement or it needs a better execution or a longer timeline.
- 14:40, one pattern I see a lot is that sometimes clients will have tried the right strategies.
- 14:47I mentioned this, but what I see very frequently is people, they might've tried the right strategy, but they didn't stick with them long enough to see measured results.
- 14:59They don't take the time to compare actual data.
- 15:02And what happens is this, it tells me we need to build more realistic timelines, , or , better systems for getting the consistent implementation.
- 15:12And sometimes it's a mindset thing.
- 15:13Sometimes clients just need,, reinforcing ,. That they need to be patient, and that's okay.
- 15:20I need reinforcing that with my own business stuff from outside sources.
- 15:25That is why we hire strategists.
- 15:27That is why we hire service providers to step into their own zone of genius so that we can do the work that we need to do for our own businesses.
- 15:36So if you do hire a strategist and they push you and some of it feels a little uncomfortable or you're, makes you feel a little anxious.
- 15:45One, never do anything that you don't feel good about.
- 15:49That's not what I'm suggesting here, but, but maybe just sit with it for a second and, and ask yourself whether that anxiety or that uncomfort is a good thing, if that's what you need.
- 16:00And if you can recognize that, just go with it.
- 16:05,I'm, I'm taking up more time than I thought with these questions, so we're gonna move away from question three and into question four, and that is what resources do you actually have?
- 16:16Ugh.
- 16:17What a way to bring your conversation back to reality.
- 16:20Because strategy without resources, it is just wishful thinking, there's often a huge gap between the resources that we wish we had and what is truly available.
- 16:32And being honest about constraints is not a negative thing.
- 16:37It is a necessity, right?
- 16:38It's so important to create a strategy that is going to work in the real world.
- 16:45And we need to assess more than one type of resource first time.
- 16:51Set a timeline, but also determine when are those hours available and how they're distributed next though, you need to think about budget.
- 16:59You know, what can you actually invest right now?
- 17:02What return do you need to see to justify that spending?
- 17:07Third.
- 17:08Team capacity, or if you're a solopreneur, you know your own capacity.
- 17:13Who, who's gonna do this, this work?
- 17:16After we develop a strategy, who implements it?
- 17:19You know, what are their skills, availability, their current workload?
- 17:23Even the best strategy, it's gonna fail if there's no one there to execute it, which is why for me, as the business owner who does strategy, it's so important that all of my strategy, or almost all, is tied to a deliverable.
- 17:38You need your website copy updated.
- 17:40Great.
- 17:41Let's do strategy first, and I will write it for you.
- 17:44Do you need content for your business?
- 17:46Are you looking to rank online as as it relates to SEO?
- 17:50Great.
- 17:51I can write it for you or I can do the SEO research for you and create content briefs for your own team to run with.
- 17:59But knowing what capacity you have, I have your team has is, is extremely important, which brings us to skills and knowledge because you have to have capacity, but you could have all the capacity in the world if you don't know how to do something, you are wasting your time, your budget, and your, and your capacity, one of the ways that we talk about skills and knowledge as it relates to resources, you know, with clients is what can they do in-house and what needs to be outsourced.
- 18:31, is there an in-between for any of that?
- 18:34And the answers to these questions are, gonna help you get that reality check.
- 18:39They will help you design a strategy that is able to be implemented within those resources and the final question, and I will probably say, I think I word this differently almost every time, but one of the more common questions is what is stopping them or like, what is.
- 19:02Why can't they move forward?
- 19:04, because again, often I get surface level answers here.
- 19:08Like, oh, I just don't have the time, but when we dig deeper, it's, it's a lot more complex.
- 19:13Very often it's things like fear of failure or fear of success.
- 19:18. Uncertainty about the right approach.
- 19:20Maybe they have like a circle of spinning ideas in their head about how they could approach things in many ways and they just don't know what to choose.
- 19:28It could be competing priorities, perfectionism, , analysis paralysis.
- 19:34Lord, do I suffer with analysis paralysis?
- 19:36But everything, , past disappointment, it could be, , just overall like not knowing what the next step is and.
- 19:46I think it's important to talk about them.
- 19:48, again, we started with a positive and I, the reason I try to frame this.
- 19:53Differently than the way that I described it is.
- 19:55'cause I don't want this to be a negative thing.
- 19:58I don't want us to do such great work and then all of a sudden we have to have like a pseudo , therapy session on , their fear of failure.
- 20:05Right.
- 20:06Or, you know, their stressors of success.
- 20:09But when we can identify, what's holding them back, it's easier to, take that issue away.
- 20:19Because the strategy has to address them directly.
- 20:22Because what will happen if I'm not addressing this with my clients is they'll keep hitting the same walls.
- 20:28The beauty of this question is that it often reveals the real starting point for our work together.
- 20:35, sometimes my clients don't need complex marketing strategy, but they need permission to focus on a few smaller things, or they need confidence that they're moving in the right direction, or they just need an outside perspective to organize things for them so they can work on the complex.
- 20:57Ideas that they have, and I think that's what they get.
- 21:02All right, so now that we've explored those questions, I want to talk about what you can do with the answers.
- 21:08You know, if you're DIYing your own strategy just from this podcast episode, look for patterns.
- 21:14Do the same themes keep emerging.
- 21:16, if lack of time keeps reappearing as a resource constraint and a primary obstacle, it's telling you something important about where to focus.
- 21:27, watch for red flags.
- 21:28is something misaligned.
- 21:31Do you have a gut feeling about something?
- 21:34Those are important.
- 21:35You know, I'm not one to ignore gut feelings.
- 21:37If, if something doesn't feel good or it feels off or you feel uncomfortable, you shouldn't be moving forward with that.
- 21:44And then, use the answers you've come up with to prioritize your next steps.
- 21:48I'm not suggesting you can listen to one podcast episode and suddenly become your own strategist, but I do think that if you do the work you can, , review your thoughts, let's say, and start to.
- 22:03Take what you've come up with and, and parcel it out as work to be done in the future.
- 22:08And if you do that, you know, make sure you set some realistic timelines for yourself or make sure to, , build some accountability in here so that you can check in on yourself or have a, have a true accountability buddy to help and check in on you.
- 22:22And if you.
- 22:23Want to be a little bit more serious about it, then hire a strategist.
- 22:27I'm hireable.
- 22:28, , we've talked about this in the past couple episodes.
- 22:30You can hire me for a one-off strategy session.
- 22:34You can hire me for a strategy within a larger project like an SEO.
- 22:39Project or a website, coffee project, you can hire me for a VIP intensive.
- 22:44That is, either completely on strategy or one part strategy, one part implementation.
- 22:51You don't have to do this alone.
- 22:54I mean, I would absolutely argue that you should not be doing this alone.
- 22:59I understand that, , sometimes if, if you are new to business, if you are pivoting, if you are just anxious to put something in someone else's hands that , it might not be the right time for you, but.
- 23:13Strategy still needs to happen.
- 23:15And the goal here is not to create a perfect plan.
- 23:19It is to create a workable plan.
- 23:22Something that moves you forward, something that gives you meaningful results and some in a way that you can do it with the resources that you actually have.
- 23:33So that's it.
- 23:34There you have it.
- 23:35The five questions that I, I believe I ask most every client that I work with.
- 23:41What's working, what results do you need?
- 23:44What have you tried before?
- 23:45What resources do you have and what's stopping you from, , moving forward?
- 23:50I encourage you to take some time this week to answer those questions for yourself.
- 23:55, you might be surprised on what you discover and the clarity that can emerge from honestly answering those questions.
- 24:03Next week on the show, we're shifting gears just slightly, and we're gonna talk about refreshing your website as part of your spring cleaning . Again, as a reminder, now is the time to get on the wait list for the annual spring Clean your website challenge.
- 24:19If you are on the wait list, that will be your one opportunity to join us at a discounted rate the dates will be announced very soon, so,, don't hesitate , but in our slight shifting, next week we're gonna talk about some signs that show you how your website is working against you.
- 24:37'cause we wanna make all of those spring cleaning changes now so that we can just forget about them and move forward with more exciting marketing goals.
- 24:46You know, once we've done our spring cleaning efforts.
- 24:50All right, friend.
- 24:51That's it.
- 24:51Thank you for listening, and I'll see you next week where we'll keep talking.
- 24:55Copy.