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- 0:02Hello and welcome to the show. Today we're going to look at how
- 0:05to build a sales machine for your business.
- 0:07We're going to wrap up the final leg of the discussion.
- 0:11But before we begin, I'm outside, this is an out and
- 0:14about recording, so expect to hear some interruptions.
- 0:18Yes, I'm sitting close to some guys who are playing draft.
- 0:20So you're going to be hearing lots of pass, pass and rolling
- 0:23of the dice and all that, and you might hear them arguing over
- 0:26who is cheating and who is not cheating.
- 0:28They've already gotten into a few fights already.
- 0:30So now that the warning's out of the way, let us delve straight
- 0:34into the last leg. Now you remember that for
- 0:37previous episodes we looked at systems and process.
- 0:40OK. Let me just go back to the top.
- 0:43The three legged approach that we've been taking to discuss how
- 0:47we build a sales machine is to look at process, to look at
- 0:50people and to look at technology.
- 0:52So those are the three, that's the three pronged approach we've
- 0:55been using process, people, technology and yes that is from
- 1:01the Zenith Bank advertisement, but you know it works.
- 1:04So for systems and processes, we've spoken about how we
- 1:07shouldn't freestyle. We should come up with a
- 1:09framework, something that is easy to remember, relatable,
- 1:13easy to explain to other people, so that people can sell on your
- 1:16behalf, so that there's consistency in the sales
- 1:19process. Because this whole thing of
- 1:21going out on fire on Monday, sleeping on Tuesday, being half
- 1:24hearted on Wednesday, travelling on Thursday and then being on
- 1:28fire again on Friday, you know that doesn't work.
- 1:30We need to come up with the system and if you're going to be
- 1:33lukewarm, then you know, be lukewarm Monday to Friday.
- 1:36If you're going to be on fire, be on fire Monday to Friday.
- 1:38So you're going to get much more better results if you can be
- 1:42consistent over time than this whole thing of high today, low
- 1:45tomorrow. And all of this is all tied into
- 1:48systems and process thinking or framework thinking, depending on
- 1:51how you want to look at it. And then also another reason why
- 1:55systems and processes are important is because this is
- 1:57what will allow us to scale. So right now you're a solo
- 2:00person, you're waiting photographer, you're a cake
- 2:02Baker, you're a Carpenter, You're selling chicken eggs.
- 2:06You're selling catfish. Or maybe you are a lesson
- 2:10teacher. You're teaching people.
- 2:11Jump for now it is just you. Eventually you're going to have
- 2:17to Co-op some people. Your baby cousin, your your
- 2:21younger brother, some employees, your spouse.
- 2:24Eventually some other people are going to be selling on your
- 2:27behalf. If you have a framework with
- 2:29some consistency to it and you're able to teach these other
- 2:32people, then your business will scale.
- 2:36If you are a lesson teacher, you figured out the system, you
- 2:40figured out the process, You're able to teach your younger
- 2:42brother or your younger sister to go out and from up sales for
- 2:45you. Then while you are busy teaching
- 2:49people lessons in the afternoon, your brother, your sister, your
- 2:52spouse can be going out looking for more clients for you so that
- 2:56you'll be able to book your time Monday through Friday and have
- 3:00lots of lessons. So this is how you make the jump
- 3:02from Let's say you're charging 20K per lesson, but you're only
- 3:07teaching two students once a week, so you're limited to 40K.
- 3:12And of course the reason why you can't sell more.
- 3:14Because if you're a lesson teacher, when you're sitting
- 3:17down teaching the student for two hours, you can't be going
- 3:19out and selling. So while you're sitting down
- 3:23teaching, your siblings are selling on your behalf.
- 3:26Your wife is selling on your behalf.
- 3:27Your husband is selling on your behalf.
- 3:29This is how you begin to grow and to scale your business and
- 3:32to get more income. Because while you're teaching,
- 3:34people are out there selling on your behalf.
- 3:36And before you know it, you're doing lessons Monday, Tuesday,
- 3:39Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and you're getting some jobs that
- 3:42you can't handle yourself. You don't have to start looking
- 3:44for other teachers to partner up with and you guys split the show
- 3:48of the profits or something like that.
- 3:50So systems thinking, process thinking, framework thinking,
- 3:53that is what allows us to be able to scale, especially for
- 3:56those of us who start off as solopreneurs.
- 3:59You know when you start, it's your own hand.
- 4:00You know, wedding photographer, it's your hand on the camera for
- 4:03the Baker, it's your hand on the spinning thing.
- 4:07If you are the tailor, it's your hand on the machine.
- 4:10Then the next step, we looked at people and how that helps to
- 4:13build a sales machine for your business.
- 4:15And we ran through how you need people with the right attitude,
- 4:18half of the right attitude to teach skills later.
- 4:21So that whole Niger thing of you're trying to have people
- 4:24with the right skills, you know you're actually doing it
- 4:25backwards from a sales and business development
- 4:28perspective. So hire for attitude 1st and
- 4:30then teach skills later. Oh by the way, if you're in the
- 4:36engineering, health and safety spaces, blah blah blah blah
- 4:39blah, then this does not apply because, well, it doesn't apply
- 4:43100% because when it comes to engineering, you want to hire
- 4:46the best engineer, even if he's an adult.
- 4:48Sorry, not an adult, an idiot, because if you have people with
- 4:54the right attitude but then poor skills, you know people die.
- 4:57So for engineering, you want to hire the best engineer, even if
- 5:00he's an absolute idiot, because you want the project to succeed.
- 5:03You don't want people to die. So where are we?
- 5:07OK, so for sales and business development, you're looking for
- 5:09people with the right attitude. You train them for skills later
- 5:12on, make sure that they're teachable.
- 5:13That is what we'll be able to. That's what we'll help them to
- 5:16learn the skills and also to help them to learn the way that
- 5:21you like people to sell for you in line with your brand
- 5:24positioning and all that. Then you want people that have a
- 5:28learning mindset and also have a creative mindset.
- 5:31So that was people. Today we are going to look at
- 5:33the final part, which is technology.
- 5:36Now when it comes to technology, there are lots of things that
- 5:39you can say about tech. And if we start looking at it
- 5:42from a platform by platform basis, we're not going to leave
- 5:46here because there are lots of platforms and tools that you can
- 5:49use to sell or to help you sell better, to improve your sales,
- 5:54to manage your sales. So once we start talking about
- 5:56all those individual tools, you know we won't live here because
- 5:59they're hundreds and hundreds. So I prefer when talking about
- 6:01this kind of stuff to speak in terms of categories or families.
- 6:05And yes, it's the same approach that I took when I was teaching
- 6:07the young ones for the, what was it called, the NBC, Nigerian
- 6:12Bottling Company, that's Coca-Cola people.
- 6:14Then when we we ran the young ones through artificial
- 6:18intelligence and how you can use artificial intelligence to work
- 6:21on projects and also to build your businesses.
- 6:23So I didn't start talking about AI tools and say Gemini #1 chart
- 6:27GPT #2 auto so I know autopilot copilot #3, you know and on and
- 6:34on. So I spoke in terms of families
- 6:37or categories and then that's the similar approach here.
- 6:39So now when it comes to the categories of tools, OK well
- 6:44First off definition technology. Now when lots of us here,
- 6:47technology, especially people that were born during my own
- 6:50era, so people that were born, you know, late 70s, early 80s,
- 6:54up until now, whenever we hear tech, we only think of
- 6:57computers. That's because of the time that
- 6:59we were born. But actually technology goes
- 7:02beyond tech, computers goes beyond digital stuff.
- 7:06I was shocked to find out when I got into junior secondary school
- 7:10and we're discussing our Greek and we started talking about
- 7:12tech and the teacher was talking about the whole and I just
- 7:15thought the whole as in who and Rick and shovel and they're
- 7:19talking of it as technology. I didn't think that was
- 7:21technology because when I grew up, every time you had tech it
- 7:26usually was computer related and usually digital related.
- 7:29So I'm sure those of you who were born 2000s and upwards, you
- 7:32guys, I'm sure you're thinking the same thing.
- 7:35So just like how a shovel and a hole and a pitchfork and a
- 7:40wheelbarrow is also technology, we also have technology for
- 7:45sales, old school and new school as well.
- 7:48So technology just means tools for problem solving, full stop.
- 7:53So the hole is the one that you do manual, the what's it called,
- 7:59the tractor, OK, tractor is not digital.
- 8:02Tractor is analog. So the hole is manual, then the
- 8:07tractor is analog, and then maybe you have a drone that
- 8:13helps to sow your seeds later on.
- 8:15Then the drone is using digital technology, so you can see how
- 8:19in a Greek in agriculture you can start off from manual and
- 8:23then go through to analogue and then from analogue you move to
- 8:27digital. So it's the same way when it
- 8:29comes to sales as well. And the reason why I'm giving
- 8:34this caveat, this whole back story is because there are some
- 8:37tools that are universal that will always remain when it comes
- 8:40to improving your sales. And the first one we're going to
- 8:43look at is the family of record record tools.
- 8:47So we all need a pen and a paper handy.
- 8:53Pen and paper will never go out of style.
- 8:56So pen and paper is a tool of record.
- 8:59The reason why I need a pen and paper is because you're going to
- 9:02be having lots of conversations with different people you need
- 9:05to be able to review later on. Who did I talk to?
- 9:09What did we say? What did we discuss?
- 9:11You know, blah blah blah, you can only review what it is that
- 9:15you have recorded. So recording, recording tools
- 9:20are very useful in improving your sales.
- 9:23Now the reason why I'm starting off with pen and paper is
- 9:25because most people don't mind pen and paper.
- 9:28They are not threatened by pen and paper.
- 9:30So for me, I can sit down and meeting, I can say Madam Cecilia
- 9:36nice of finally having this meeting beg Novak's.
- 9:38You know, I have my pen and paper here.
- 9:40I just want to write down some stuff so I don't forget anything
- 9:43we've discussed about. Are you OK with that?
- 9:45And my absolutely. I will say yeah, sure, no
- 9:47problem. Most people do not mind for you
- 9:51to write. You just take permission so that
- 9:53they know that you're not ignoring them.
- 9:55And by the way, when they start talking about personal stuff and
- 9:58things like that, the personal information, you know, feel feel
- 10:02free to let them know that. Oh, OK yeah, I took note of this
- 10:04is this, but I didn't write that and that and that because, you
- 10:07know, this is confidential information.
- 10:09So and that's how you handle the whole pen and paper thing.
- 10:12It's not a problem. The first time you do it, you
- 10:14feel awkward. But trust me, people have no
- 10:17problem with pen and paper. At least in Nigeria anyway.
- 10:20People don't have problem with pen and paper.
- 10:22I don't know. If you're in a country where the
- 10:23culture is different, then there's another tool of record,
- 10:27and that's the phone, because the phone has audio recording
- 10:30these days. Apart from audio recording,
- 10:34there's this thing. Is it Google?
- 10:36Is it Google? No, not Google translates Google
- 10:38Transcribe. So there's audio recording,
- 10:41There's Google Transcribe. When you flip up your phone and
- 10:43you open to Google Transcribe and other tools like this, they
- 10:46were made for people who are auditory impaired.
- 10:49People have problems hearing when you use those sorts of
- 10:54tools, It's transcribing every single thing that you say.
- 10:57So you're talking Madam Cecilia. The thing will note speaker one,
- 11:02blah blah, blah blah blah. Let's say speaker one is you.
- 11:04Every time Madam Cecilia talks, you will now say speaker two and
- 11:07blah blah blah blah blah. So speaker two is Madam Cecilia.
- 11:10At the end of the meeting, you'll be able to look at Google
- 11:12Transcribe and you'll be able to see it there.
- 11:14And speaker one, these are all the things you said, speaker 2,
- 11:16This is everything you said. That's for the phone.
- 11:20Then there's also audio recording.
- 11:22But this is where the problem comes in.
- 11:25At least in Nigeria, this is kind of new tech, so not
- 11:29everybody is comfortable with all their stuff being
- 11:32transcribed. Not everybody is comfortable
- 11:34with that. So ask beforehand, because if
- 11:38you start off this meeting, you're transcribing everything
- 11:42and Madam Cecilia now find you don't tell her and then she
- 11:44looks like you're recording everything I say, you know it'll
- 11:47be a problem. So tell people, just like with
- 11:51the pen and paper. Ask for permission if you're
- 11:53doing the transcribing thing. You definitely have to ask for
- 11:57permission if you are recording anybody's voice once you're
- 12:01recording voice, just like I'm recording my voice right now.
- 12:04There are lots of touchy personal issues involved and
- 12:09even legal issues involved. You are required by law.
- 12:13This one is not pen and paper that if you ask, you didn't ask.
- 12:17You know you can overlook. For voice recording and video
- 12:21recording you are required by law, Madame Cecilia.
- 12:24I am recording this conversation.
- 12:26You tell her bum wholeheartedly or else it's going to cause
- 12:30problems later on. Or or garden Juma.
- 12:32I am. You see that camera in the
- 12:34corner? It is making a video recording
- 12:36of everything that we're talking about.
- 12:38So for audio, video, let them know.
- 12:45Transcribing, let them know. Pen and paper.
- 12:49You can casually seek permission.
- 12:50You know that's that's OK for audio recording and for video
- 12:54recording, depending on the jurisdiction that you are in,
- 12:57you might you might be required to not just give them an
- 13:01auditory warning, not just tell them this thing is being
- 13:04recorded. There are some jurisdictions
- 13:06where you have to obtain permission in writing.
- 13:10You give them the paper, they'll read it their way, then they
- 13:13will sign. OK, I know that this thing is
- 13:15being recorded, so why bother going through all this video
- 13:21audio? You know it.
- 13:22It will depend on the country you're in, the context that
- 13:25you're selling in. Those are what will determine
- 13:27whether you're taking this detailed whatever.
- 13:30Like let's go back to the engineering example.
- 13:33When you're trying to design complex engineering systems and
- 13:37things like that, maybe it would help if you have a verbatim
- 13:42recording of what it is that happened.
- 13:45I'm just guessing. I haven't sold in the
- 13:46engineering space, but maybe that's where transcription
- 13:48things will come in handy because people need to remember
- 13:52exact technical specifications. But of course I'm not
- 13:57recommending any of you go that fancy because like I said, pen
- 14:00and paper never feels it's good. Any problem with pen and paper
- 14:04is that you can lose pen and paper, or by the time you come
- 14:07back you see that your children have destroyed the pen and
- 14:08paper, or your wife didn't think it was important and she used it
- 14:11to wrap a car or something like that.
- 14:13So those are some of the issues, but pen and paper, you can't
- 14:17feel with that. Whatever it is you choose.
- 14:19Let people know that you are making taking notes.
- 14:22You're making a recording. The whole point of recording is
- 14:24so that you can review later. The whole point of reviewing
- 14:28later is so that you can chat the next course of action.
- 14:31And that's one of the reasons why lots of you are failing in
- 14:33sales right now, because you are not using instruments of record
- 14:37at all. You go and you sit down, it's a
- 14:39nice meeting, nice, whatever. And then both of you stand up
- 14:42and you leave. And then you're freestyling.
- 14:44You're running it from memory. Take a pen and paper record.
- 14:48If you want to do something fancy, the fancier it gets, the
- 14:52more permissions you need to get and the more you need to
- 14:55emphasize that. Madam Cecilia, I am recording
- 14:59this phone conversation. Olga Jibril, you see that camera
- 15:03over there? We are recording this.
- 15:05Whatever you need to take permission need to let them
- 15:07know. Then the next hat trick of cool,
- 15:11sorry categories of tools that we're going to look at.
- 15:14So I haven't had breakfast, so my brain is slow.
- 15:15This morning is scheduling tools.
- 15:21Now, a scheduling tool is just something that lets you know
- 15:24this is what you're supposed to be doing today.
- 15:27This is what you're supposed to be doing tomorrow.
- 15:29This is what you're supposed to be doing next tomorrow.
- 15:32That is a scheduling tool. Scheduling tools are useful
- 15:35because we forget you can finish this meeting.
- 15:38Today was a wonderful conversation.
- 15:40Madam Cecilia is happy. Maybe you recorded some stuff on
- 15:45your phone, but you didn't enter anything into your scheduling
- 15:47tool. And you're supposed to meet with
- 15:49Madam Cecilia again on Wednesday.
- 15:51But maybe on Tuesday your wife threw you a surprise birthday
- 15:54party. You are really happy.
- 15:56You guys are so much in love and everything.
- 15:58And then you overslept. You forgot about your meeting on
- 16:00Wednesday. These things happen.
- 16:03These things happen. Or you're called for your
- 16:06child's PTA. You go for the PTA meeting.
- 16:08You forget that you're Madam Cecilia.
- 16:10You have 10:00 meeting. These things happen.
- 16:13So record stuff. Pen and paper, transcribe,
- 16:17video, audio, whatever, depending on your context, but
- 16:21then have a scheduling tool that you enter something into at the
- 16:24end of the meeting. This is where CRMS come in
- 16:27handy. The CRM tool is a customer
- 16:29relationship management tool or a client relationship management
- 16:33tool. The CRM is the thing that lets
- 16:35you who have you spoken to? What stage of the relationship
- 16:39are you in? What is it that you're supposed
- 16:41to do next for the client? For Madam Cecilia or what is the
- 16:47client, Madam Cecilia, What is she supposed to do for you?
- 16:50Because it's possible that you've run through the whole
- 16:52thing. And Madam Cecilia has said, Oh
- 16:54yes, I'll pay you 1.5 and you start the work.
- 16:57But then things happen. You forgot to collect payment.
- 17:00She paid 700 deposits. You forget to collect.
- 17:03The CRM is all remind you bring him.
- 17:06Madam Cecilia is owing you 800 K and they can now follow up on
- 17:10that. So we need to have CRM tools.
- 17:15I've made lots of episodes about how you don't need high tech CRM
- 17:20tools because your phone can be used as a CRM tool.
- 17:24So Google Calendar on your phone, iPhone Calendar on your
- 17:29iPhone, whatever calendar that comes with your phone can be a
- 17:34good CRM for now. So let's go back to Madam
- 17:37Cecilia. You have the meeting with Madam
- 17:39Cecilia. You're taking a bunch of notes,
- 17:41or you're recording, or you're transcribing.
- 17:44You're done with the meeting and you will agree that you're going
- 17:46to see Madam Cecilia. You got meeting again on
- 17:49Wednesday, 10:00 AM at our office.
- 17:52Then after you leave the venue and you get back home, you pull
- 17:56out your scheduling tool. Let's say right now it's Google
- 18:00Calendar. So you open Google Calendar and
- 18:02then you're right there. The subject will be Madam
- 18:05Cecilia 9:00 AM meeting at Hilton Hotel in the notes
- 18:11section on your Google Calendar. You will now look at your pen
- 18:15and paper, all the things that you wrote.
- 18:17You will now type it into that section on your the notes
- 18:23section or the details section on your calendar.
- 18:25I think for Google Calendar is I think it's called details.
- 18:30In some other place, in some other apps is called Notes.
- 18:34So you now write it there. Madam Cecilia meeting 9:00 AM
- 18:38Hilton Hotel discussed blah blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 18:42She objected to this that that that that follow up.
- 18:46I'm supposed to provide information on this this this
- 18:48this this next meeting date is so so so and so time.
- 18:56Let's see what else agenda is provide this material and then
- 19:01deliver proposal and then you schedule it there pop.
- 19:05And then you hit save and then you what's it called You hit
- 19:10that thing so that you know where it's supposed to put time
- 19:12and everything. So the thing gives you a
- 19:14reminder. So that way if you get home and
- 19:16your darling wife has thrown a surprise birthday party for you
- 19:19and you're happy. Mumsy was there.
- 19:21Your siblings were there. Everybody was there.
- 19:23You're overwhelmed. You're so much in love and
- 19:25everything And then you oversleep.
- 19:27Your phone will do. Bringing in the morning and you
- 19:29look at it. You will see meeting Madam
- 19:32Cecilia 10 AM Hilton Hotel. Then you can jump up quickly,
- 19:37have your bath and, you know, rush out the house for your
- 19:39meeting so you see how scheduling tools come in handy.
- 19:43It's the same thing, you know if you're a woman.
- 19:45Your idiot husband forgot to organize the party for you, so
- 19:49you're angry. And then on top of that, they
- 19:50called you for PTA meeting. You went for the meeting cause
- 19:54your husband can't be bothered. You're angry with the whole
- 19:57world, everything. While you're there.
- 19:59Your phone will do ringing or zip, zip if you put the thing on
- 20:03silent and then you will see the meeting.
- 20:06Orga Jabril. 10 AM Hilton Hotel Then you can take permission
- 20:10from the teacher and then run off your business.
- 20:12Life doesn't have to fall apart because your husband is an idiot
- 20:15and your children are not doing well in school.
- 20:18You know doesn't have to stop your business from moving
- 20:20forward. By the way, our husbands will
- 20:22never do poorly and our children will always do well in school in
- 20:24Jesus name. I'm just coming up with
- 20:26examples. Then after scheduling tools, we
- 20:30don't need creativity or problem solving tools because sales
- 20:33involves lots of creativity. Because you can finish this
- 20:36meeting with Orga Jibril or Madam Cecilia.
- 20:39And then you are now thinking, Ah, Madam Cecilia.
- 20:41I said this, this, this is this. How in the hell am I supposed to
- 20:44solve this kind of problem now? It happens because your brain is
- 20:47blank. Then this is where one on ones
- 20:52come in handy. Well, one-on-one is not really
- 20:53technology because we can't really say people, human beings
- 20:56are technology. But just roll with me here.
- 20:59So that's an option one-on-one. You will talk to your manager
- 21:02back at the office or the manager.
- 21:04I spoke to Madam Cecilia. She said this and this and this
- 21:06on my amount of ideas. What do you think?
- 21:09So one on ones that comes in handy speaking to your coach,
- 21:14your mentor or whatever that comes in handy.
- 21:16It's not exactly tech, but we need this kind of help when it
- 21:19comes to creativity and problem solving.
- 21:22Another tool that is available, AI, Artificial intelligence.
- 21:26So excuse me. And that is what we were trying
- 21:29to preach to the young ones at the NBC Nigerian bottling
- 21:32Company, Coca-Cola Youth Empowerment Youth Empowerment
- 21:36Session that happened this month, 17th and 18th of March in
- 21:41Abuja. So if you're between 16 to 35,
- 21:44they organise this thing on the national level.
- 21:47So just pay attention to social media, you know, follow NBC,
- 21:50follow Coca-Cola. You might see when it's coming
- 21:52to your city because I know that there are some schedule for
- 21:56Lagos and other parts of the country.
- 21:58So in case you're 16 to 35 and for some reason yes, they decide
- 22:02that 35 young people in my own opinion for 35.
- 22:04You know young you're a grown ass man.
- 22:06So don't think you're youth. So what was that AI.
- 22:11Now you can use AI for creativity and problem solving.
- 22:14You can put it there in the prompt for ChatGPT.
- 22:16You can say I had a meeting with a client.
- 22:18Oh by the way, don't put Madam Cecilia's name into ChatGPT or I
- 22:22got you Bruce name into ChatGPT because these tools are also
- 22:25data gathering tools. So if you put it there you would
- 22:28have put Madam Cecilia's private information over on the Internet
- 22:32and that's not good. So just put just right, just
- 22:35general. I had a meeting with a potential
- 22:39client who is a female based in Abuja in so, so, so and so
- 22:43industry. We discussed so, so, so and so
- 22:45solutions, but she had objections TO1234 parts of the
- 22:49process. I'm able to provide guarantees
- 22:53on this and that and that. What else can I do or what else
- 22:57should I discuss with my potential customer to make sure
- 23:01that I meet their concerns and then hit enter And it's going to
- 23:06come up with a couple of solutions now because you are
- 23:09the expert at what it is that you do.
- 23:11You will see that some of those solutions will be rubbish.
- 23:14Disregard the rubbish. We're not concerned about that
- 23:16and you will see that one or two of those solutions actually make
- 23:19sense. For the ones that make sense,
- 23:21take it, try your luck. If it works, it's all good.
- 23:24If it doesn't work, no alarm. At least you've learnt for the
- 23:26future. You're not going to be able to
- 23:28win every single business that you pitch for.
- 23:30So creativity, problem solving tools, your line manager is
- 23:34there, Your guy in the office is there.
- 23:36Your coach is there, Your siblings are there.
- 23:38Speak to them. Or you can use AI.
- 23:41So creativity and problem solving tools.
- 23:44Now you're beginning to get a sense of why all these things
- 23:46are important. You can see that it's one thing
- 23:48to have a framework that is well thought out, but if you're not
- 23:52recording conversations, you're not reviewing conversations,
- 23:55you're not scheduling anything, and you're not trying to do
- 23:59problem solving, you can see how the whole thing is not going to
- 24:02work. And you also see now why the
- 24:04people part of the equation is important, why I need people
- 24:06with the right attitude, who are teachable or who have creative
- 24:09minds and are willing to learn. Somebody who is a lazy dunce is
- 24:12not going to go through all this.
- 24:14A lazy person who just was collect salary is not going to
- 24:17bother with pen and paper. They are not going to schedule.
- 24:21They will be trying to remember to try and freestyle and problem
- 24:24solving. I mean, what's their own they
- 24:26will do. The one that they can do, the
- 24:27one that they cannot do, it's not their problem.
- 24:29So you see how all these things work together.
- 24:32Now we also need communications tools.
- 24:34Now these ones you're already very familiar with them e-mail,
- 24:38WhatsApp, social media inboxes and then SMS or, you know,
- 24:43whatever communications to you can think of.
- 24:45For now, the reason why we're going to use all these tools and
- 24:49we'll use as many as possible is because if we use multiple
- 24:53points, multiple touch points, we're going to increase the
- 24:56likelihood of engagement or the likelihood that somebody will
- 24:58respond. You might send Madam Cecilia SMS
- 25:03messages or WhatsApp messages after that meeting.
- 25:06Not everybody is a WhatsApp person or an SMS person.
- 25:10So send the SMS that. OK was nice meeting with you Ma.
- 25:15This is what we discussed. This is what we're supposed to
- 25:17do next. If she replies, good.
- 25:19If she doesn't reply, no problem.
- 25:21The next day. We can now send out an e-mail.
- 25:24No morning. Manager Celia, just like I
- 25:26mentioned in text message. Was lovely having a meeting with
- 25:29you. Remember, this is what we
- 25:30discussed. This was supposed to do next.
- 25:32Looking forward to our meeting on Wednesday at 10:00 AM.
- 25:35Send the e-mail, she responds. Good.
- 25:38She doesn't respond. If you got her social media
- 25:42handles, you can do the same. Now, some of you might be saying
- 25:46that, man, this is overkill, it's harassment in the
- 25:48beginning. It's not harassment.
- 25:50You don't know how this person chooses to vibe with you or to
- 25:54interact with you, so you're trying out as many multiple
- 25:56touch points as possible until you figure out what the person
- 25:59likes. You might go through all this
- 26:02and figure out that Missus Madam Cecilia is a phone call person.
- 26:06If that is the case then any single follow up, touching up,
- 26:10whatever it is I need to do with Madam Cecilia in the future
- 26:12should be by phone call. But back to the CRM thing where
- 26:19we schedule make a note of waiting your CRM so that if your
- 26:22wife wants to do the follow up call she will see that Madam
- 26:26Cecilia is a phone call person. Because there's some people that
- 26:30are like that. They don't respond to WhatsApp,
- 26:32they don't respond to e-mail. If you call them, they will
- 26:34answer. Unfortunately, most people don't
- 26:37like answering their phones. I've met one person who doesn't
- 26:41respond to WhatsApp and e-mail, but even if you send her
- 26:45messages at 3:52 in the morning when everybody else on earth is
- 26:51asleep, she will respond. So don't ask me why there are
- 26:54people that are just like that. We're trying to figure out what
- 26:56are people's preferences, what are their cadences.
- 26:58So we're using multiple touch points in the beginning.
- 27:01So when you finish with Ogar Garba at the meeting is the same
- 27:05thing. You send him ASMS the next day
- 27:08you can send the e-mail, then after a while then send OK, no
- 27:12SMS, WhatsApp send those on the same day cause the same
- 27:15category, social media maybe send him LinkedIn message, maybe
- 27:18another day. But The thing is you will start
- 27:21seeing after you do this two or three times.
- 27:23You will notice that OK, Ogre Garba ignores, doesn't in fact
- 27:30doesn't even read his e-mail because after a while he starts
- 27:33bouncing WhatsApp and SMS. It doesn't bother.
- 27:38But every single time you send in Facebook message, she
- 27:40responds. So for the future Madam Garba,
- 27:42that's how you're going to be dealing with him Facebook
- 27:44messages, because she responds there.
- 27:47Then for communications tools, we also look at video
- 27:50conferencing tools. So Zoom.
- 27:52Microsoft Teams and then Google meet.
- 27:55For those of us who are Nigerians, those are the big
- 27:57ones that we use here. Google meets well, it's free on
- 28:01everybody's phone. Zoom it's well, there's a free
- 28:04package, but that lasts only one hour.
- 28:06Microsoft Teams. I don't know how that works
- 28:08because I know that whenever I'm meeting with British Council,
- 28:11that's what they seem to prefer. But I don't know if you need a
- 28:14paid account. But Google meet is absolutely
- 28:16free. Half of Nigeria has an Android
- 28:19phone, so that one is not going to be a problem.
- 28:21You send them the link, they click on the link, the thing
- 28:23will just come up. Video conferencing.
- 28:25Very useful for meetings when both of you are not in the same
- 28:29city or not in the same part of the world, you know, stuff like
- 28:31that. So the current British Council
- 28:34project that we're working on are providing media services for
- 28:37them, producing a documentary on OK, well, I can't go into
- 28:43details yet, but producing a documentary for them, that is
- 28:46only possible because we have video conferencing tools.
- 28:49So we had a Microsoft Teams meeting where me and my crew
- 28:53were there, the British Council marketing people were in Lagos
- 28:56and we had the conversation. This is the project, this is the
- 28:59scope, OK? We are agreed on the budget.
- 29:02What is the scripting? What is the creative direction
- 29:04that we're taking? What is it that we need to move
- 29:07this thing forward? What do you guys require of us?
- 29:09What are you going to use the video for?
- 29:11Ultimately, what's the call to action that we're going to have?
- 29:14Who? What are the additional
- 29:16resources that we need, people that we need to interview?
- 29:19All of this was done all over Microsoft.
- 29:22Teams that were chilling in Lagos, that was chilling in
- 29:25Abuja. My team people were chilling
- 29:28wherever they were chilling and we got the job done.
- 29:31So video conferencing tools, very useful for closing the
- 29:34deal. It's already 30 minutes, so let
- 29:36me just bring it to a close here.
- 29:37But this is how you should be thinking about tools and
- 29:40technology when it comes to increasing your business.
- 29:43No, think in terms of the individual tools.
- 29:46Think in terms of categories. I need stuff to record and
- 29:49review. What kind of record and review
- 29:50works for my own context, for my own industry.
- 29:54For most people, pen and paper is fine.
- 29:57In most Abuja hospitals that you go to, the doctors don't use pen
- 30:00and paper anymore. And files.
- 30:02They're using computer. But you can see how the context
- 30:04is different. So wedding photographer pen and
- 30:06paper is good. Medical doctor, I guess, you
- 30:09know yoga mandates you must use computer so you must use
- 30:12computer. So audio recording, phone video
- 30:15recording, you know, whatever. But you need a tool of record.
- 30:18So start thinking for my business, what is the tool of
- 30:21record that we need. You need a scheduling tool.
- 30:25CRM. That's industry practice.
- 30:27You don't have money, no alarm. Your phone can function as if
- 30:31CRM. You have notifications, you have
- 30:33calendars, You have notes. Use that as CRM.
- 30:37Please, please, please, please always schedule something.
- 30:41If you don't schedule, you will forget.
- 30:44Life happens and you will forget.
- 30:46And that's how we lose money. That's how we lose money.
- 30:48If I let me give you 1 testimony.
- 30:49There was somebody I was supposed to call over something.
- 30:53I won't go into details. My wife gave me the person's
- 30:55number. I said I'll call the person I
- 30:57forgot, and then I forgot, and then I forgot.
- 31:00And you know how politics is in Niger now.
- 31:03Eventually, the guy got elevated.
- 31:05He's on a whole new level. Now my guy is not answering
- 31:07phone calls anymore and he's just painting me like Chai.
- 31:10I should have just called the dude when I said I would.
- 31:14I should have scheduled it. I should have called him, called
- 31:17him. It doesn't mean I would have
- 31:19gotten the deal, but you never know how I would have been able
- 31:24to advance the relationship before this guy got elevated and
- 31:26he's now a big boy and he's not answering phone calls anymore.
- 31:29So schedule something please. Too many people are losing money
- 31:33because they're not scheduling anything.
- 31:35Then creativity tools. Talk to your line manager, talk
- 31:38to your coach, talk to your siblings.
- 31:40AI is there. If you don't have anybody to
- 31:42talk to, some suggestions would be helpful, some will not.
- 31:44You're the specialist. Sort it out then.
- 31:47Communications tools. Please don't just pick one.
- 31:50It's not about what you prefer. Now, some of you who love
- 31:52WhatsApp, it's not about you. If you love WhatsApp, you're
- 31:56trying to WhatsApp Madam Cecilia.
- 31:58But Madam Cecilia is an e-mail person, then to what end?
- 32:01You're wasting your time. If you love WhatsApp but Madam
- 32:03Cecilia is an e-mail person, then please e-mail all the way.
- 32:08If you hate phone calls but Olga Garba is a phone call person,
- 32:13then look, it's not about you. Pick up the phone and call.
- 32:17You want to collect all the Gariba's money, so pick up the
- 32:20phone call. Collect the money.
- 32:21Make your life easier. Then of course video
- 32:23conferencing tools. So that's all for today.
- 32:27Now connect with me on LinkedIn. My name is Tavishima Ayede.
- 32:30I'm the host of the show. You can confirm the spelling of
- 32:32my name from the link where you're listening to this
- 32:34episode. Also, connect with me on
- 32:37WhatsApp. My phone number is 08064662140.
- 32:43The country code is +234. For those of you who are not
- 32:45Nigerian, thank you very much for your time and attention.
- 32:48I'll catch you guys at the next recording.
- 32:50I'm sorry that the last three episodes have been 30 minute
- 32:52one. So let's see how we can scale
- 32:54back in future episodes and make it, you know, 1015 minute
- 32:57affairs. So thanks for your time and
- 32:59attention. I'll catch you guys soon.