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- 0:05Hi everybody, and welcome to the dr.
- 0:07Psych mom show today, I am going to talk about how to actually
- 0:14mobilize your empathy and caring in order to make your wife want
- 0:19to be intimate as per usual. So before we get to that, please
- 0:24do subscribe. I have lots of great episodes,
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- 0:32benefit from going back to work. And that is something that
- 0:36sometimes they feel ashamed about.
- 0:37So I made this podcast. So anyway, subscribe for that
- 0:40one, and all the other ones about sex and relationships.
- 0:43And what have you, all right? So I've gotten the question
- 0:48sometimes, okay? So if you're more empathic and
- 0:50more open more vulnerable and all these things that you say,
- 0:53then how does that like actually translate into not just your
- 0:57wife like being happier with you because you're like, all of a
- 1:00sudden nicer which I can understand.
- 1:02But what about, how does that actually make?
- 1:04Her want to have sex with you if she's somebody that doesn't want
- 1:07to have sex. Well, I mean, first of all, if
- 1:10she's happier in the relationship, she's gonna want
- 1:15to make you happy back. Unless she's a sociopath, which
- 1:18she's not likely, because those are there very low base rates of
- 1:22that. So, let's not engage in the base
- 1:24rate fallacy here. You know, the average woman is
- 1:27not a sociopath. So therefore very, very few of
- 1:31you are going to have a wife who's a sociopath If she's had
- 1:35so many empathic ruptures with you that she feels absolutely.
- 1:38No closeness to you, then sure you being nice.
- 1:42This late in the game as it may be going to fix anything but you
- 1:45could certainly try, right? So what would this actually look
- 1:49like, people love when I do role plays.
- 1:54So here's what it would look like.
- 1:56It would look like you saying to your wife sweetheart, I see that
- 2:00you had a hard day. I love you.
- 2:02I love that. You're such a good mother to our
- 2:04Kids and let's just watch whatever you want on Netflix
- 2:08tonight and you do that and you say, what about the part where I
- 2:13ask for sex? Well, listen, if you're not
- 2:15doing that, which a lot of you are not doing because you're so
- 2:19resentful that, you're no longer nice and you're no longer kind,
- 2:22then that's the first step. The first step is just being a
- 2:25nice guy. And now there's like all this
- 2:28shit when these people like read these other things.
- 2:30They're like, what about nice guy syndrome?
- 2:33I address this thing in. Podcasts on why women like nice
- 2:36guys. I am not talking about guys who
- 2:39are like not actually nice and we're just trying to get shit by
- 2:43acting knife. That's not what a woman likes.
- 2:46A woman likes a secure kind confident, nice, nice.
- 2:52Remember the definition of nice from the dictionary Pleasant
- 2:54agreeable, you know, like people love that agreeableness is a
- 2:59trait that's linked to marital satisfaction.
- 3:02Obviously, to just means that you're not a Fighting asshole,
- 3:06right? So I have lots of stuff on how
- 3:08being defensive difficult in argumentative.
- 3:10Makes your wife hate you and not want to have sex with you.
- 3:12So the opposite is going to be true.
- 3:14Is she going to experience spontaneous desire upon seeing
- 3:17you now? Do I have explained?
- 3:20This she is not because you are monogamous and so therefore, she
- 3:24will not ever probably experienced spontaneous desire
- 3:27toward you, unless she is ovulating, but she will
- 3:30experience responsive desire, most likely, especially if she
- 3:33is premenopausal. But not perimenopausal pre.
- 3:36Like she has not gone through menopause yet, and her hormones
- 3:40are all working at somewhat of their initial intended levels.
- 3:44Then she will experience responsive desire, assuming
- 3:48that, you know how to please her in bed, which again is pretty
- 3:51big assumption. If y'all have not been having
- 3:53that much sex. So refer back to various ways
- 3:56that I've told you to be better in bed including the very first
- 3:59podcast and the oral sex one and like all the other ones.
- 4:02But anyway back to the A point. You start got to start just be a
- 4:06nice forget about sex. Once you're the kind of guy that
- 4:09she Associates with. Oh when he opens his mouth, good
- 4:12things happen, not bad things. Not all my God.
- 4:15What's he going to say? Is he going to sulk about
- 4:18something? What did I do?
- 4:19What did I not do? I know we don't have sex enough,
- 4:22is it going to be some bitching and moaning about that?
- 4:24What is it going to be now? Oh my God, that's how a lot of
- 4:28women think the inner monologue and you know what, it's not like
- 4:32men are better. Because when the man sees What
- 4:34many things are fucking doesn't have sex with me, doesn't even
- 4:37like me. God damn.
- 4:38Why am I in this life r-r-r-r-rah?
- 4:41Right? So everybody's bitter, so
- 4:43there's no gender that wins. Nobody was the beginning of the
- 4:47problem. As you got further and further
- 4:49from the honeymoon stage, everybody started to get off
- 4:52their best behavior and the women sex drive dropped more
- 4:55than the men's, but that does not mean that there is some some
- 5:00plot, some evil thing that's going on.
- 5:03That's so nefarious. That the woman just has it out
- 5:06for you or anything like that. It's two people that had a
- 5:10series of empathic ruptures and resentments that are trying to
- 5:14make their lives work as parents and partners.
- 5:16So this is the usual situation when we are not dealing with a
- 5:20very low probability sociopath. So once you get down the oh
- 5:25sweetheart, I love you seems like you had a bad day.
- 5:28Blah blah, blah. Just nice literally being nice
- 5:32and loving then you And attain a higher level and the video game
- 5:38and you can go up to. Hey, I feel so close to you
- 5:43because of x y z and you look beautiful.
- 5:46Let's go upstairs. She's going to say yes.
- 5:48The first time probably not. Probably.
- 5:50She'll wonder, you know, like did you have a lobotomy if you
- 5:53don't usually talk like that. But if she says, why are you
- 5:57trying to be so nice? Like you'd be like well I miss
- 5:59you, I miss having sex with you. I figured I'm going to try to be
- 6:02nicer. Maybe it's that you always.
- 6:04As you say I'm an asshole so therefore I'm trying to be
- 6:07nicer, be honest and real and open you know?
- 6:12I mean you what's going to happen you're not going to get
- 6:14laid you know that outcome of writing, right?
- 6:17So what's the worst that could happen?
- 6:18You try to be nice and then you don't get laid.
- 6:20That's worse than not trying to be nice and not getting late.
- 6:23How at least when you're trying to be nice and kind, you have
- 6:27possibly a shot in Hell, whereas otherwise, you don't.
- 6:30So most women do not want to humiliate their husbands, if a
- 6:34man Zat you with this whole romantic shpiel at, he's
- 6:37obviously trying embarrassing to say no you know it certainly
- 6:42embarrassing to say like a just a no full stop and not like a
- 6:46rain check or anything like if you comment things very nicely
- 6:50then your wife will probably want to play ball in some way.
- 6:53You know, she will not want to leave you hanging out to dry
- 6:56there. Unless again, of course this is
- 6:59your first foray into being nice and there's been a lot of water
- 7:03under the bridge. Uh, John both sides, I'm sure.
- 7:06And everybody has been so nasty to each other for so long that
- 7:09she doesn't even like, remember how to be nice to you when you
- 7:12try this. But never fear there's couples
- 7:16counseling and if you cannot make any Headway by being nice
- 7:20and sweet and open about why you are trying and how much you love
- 7:24her and how much you value her and you get nowhere at all, then
- 7:29couples counseling can help. When people tell me that they
- 7:32had all these couples counselors, it didn't work.
- 7:35Well, I know like, you know, like, not everybody's me, you
- 7:38can come see me. There are plenty of good ones,
- 7:40you know. But people get like, say, oh,
- 7:42but my couples counselor didn't act like you, okay, but they
- 7:45could have had other things to talk about.
- 7:47What I will say though is, if you're in couples counseling,
- 7:50they better be talking about sex.
- 7:51If you have a sexual problem, if you're in couples counseling,
- 7:54and I've said this before and they never mentioned sex because
- 7:57they think that magically, you know, if you work on the
- 7:59emotions, the sex will follow, it's not true.
- 8:02So you need to get with somebody that it Least is actively
- 8:05working on your sex life. And another thing is that people
- 8:09will come to me as a therapist of Last Resort.
- 8:12You know, because I'm expensive but it's like.
- 8:14So is it cheaper to work with someone else first and then work
- 8:17with me? I mean what are we talking about
- 8:18that stupid? So if you think at all that you
- 8:21would benefit from working with me, don't do what so many people
- 8:24end up regretting doing which is deciding to work with somebody
- 8:26else for a year. Who is cheaper?
- 8:28Let me tell you something. Whole bunch of cheap sessions
- 8:30for a year. It first of all, it's a year of
- 8:33your finite life. Also, that's more expensive if
- 8:37you eventually end up working with me or somebody like me
- 8:40because you paid for them and then you paid for me.
- 8:43So, you know, this is just I've spoken to a bunch of these
- 8:47people recently. So it's top of mine but and also
- 8:52it's cheaper than a divorce. Is the key line that everybody
- 8:54says who's a therapist. So the point being though you he
- 8:58all right you want another role play that seems to be the money
- 9:01shot what people want. So another role play would be
- 9:05Let's go upstairs, I'll give you a back rub and then hopefully we
- 9:08can be close and buy clothes insert your euphemism for sex
- 9:12here. So many people, it's interesting
- 9:14that have no sex life, don't even have a euphemism because
- 9:18they don't have any Pillow Talk. They don't have any cute little
- 9:20things to say because they like never talk about sex ever.
- 9:23So that is something to work on is to figure out like, oh, when
- 9:28I say x like it's going to mean we have sex and that could be
- 9:31like a nice thing especially if whenever you Let's go upstairs
- 9:35and have sex. Your wife looks at you like, you
- 9:37are disgusting. She may just not really like the
- 9:40words. Listen.
- 9:42We already know that she's not super, like open-minded.
- 9:45Like this is not a shock, but, so she doesn't like the words,
- 9:48like, who cares figure out, then some words that she likes by
- 9:51saying something. Like, honey, I noticed that when
- 9:54I say, let's go upstairs and have sex, you don't like that.
- 9:57So what would you like me to say you see how easy that is?
- 10:01It all comes from. Not that I'm an expert.
- 10:04Roll player but that I can think about like what am I thinking
- 10:10and then how do I get it out of my mouth without another filter?
- 10:14Except always say something nice.
- 10:16Like honey sweetheart or what have you?
- 10:18But if you are honest and open so you probably spend so much
- 10:22time thinking does she want me to say the word sex?
- 10:24Does she not want me to say the word sex?
- 10:26What does she want me to call it anyway if you've been in this
- 10:30situation? So what I'm saying is take that
- 10:32thought and literally just express it out of your mouth.
- 10:34This is very hard, if you did not grow up in a family that
- 10:36Express things openly, but you can learn to do it with
- 10:39practice. So that's why I could do the
- 10:41role play on the Fly. You can learn to do it too.
- 10:44If anything that you're thinking, just comes out of your
- 10:47mouth. So, in this case, you would say,
- 10:49honey, I noticed that you look at me with disgust when I say
- 10:53the word sex. What else do you want me to say?
- 10:55And then she'll tell you something, she's not just gonna
- 10:58look at you. She'll say something or other or
- 11:01another example of something that men have trouble saying to
- 11:04their why Ives is like do you want to have sex like at a
- 11:08specific time and a specific way.
- 11:10Blah blah blah. What do you think of my
- 11:12technique? Well guess how you say it?
- 11:14Do you want to have sex at a specific time?
- 11:17Oh yeah. What time would it be?
- 11:19Do you like to have sex in a specific way?
- 11:22Oh, what way, they literally like this is literally what I'm
- 11:26saying, is you just gotta talk, you just have to talk and take
- 11:30the filter out and you will gain so much information by just
- 11:34asking. Things directly.
- 11:35Do you like how I have sex with you do you think I am good at
- 11:39that? I hear that there's books on how
- 11:41to go down on a woman, do you think I should read one of those
- 11:44books? But the key variable here is you
- 11:46got to get your ego out of the game.
- 11:49If you want to communicate more effectively with your wife,
- 11:51about sex or anything else, you got to get your ego out of the
- 11:54game and you got to make yourself open to feedback.
- 11:57I have a podcast on how to be more open to sexual feedback or
- 12:00maybe it's a post, I don't remember.
- 12:02But anyway, Google sexual feedback.
- 12:04But dr. Psych mom, but the point here
- 12:07is, if you are defensive none of this will work.
- 12:11If you're a defensive, no, communication will work.
- 12:13She thinks that you're a big baby.
- 12:15She thinks that she can't talk to you about anything without
- 12:17you losing your shit. And then you get her your worst
- 12:21fear. She will lie to you because when
- 12:23she tells the truth and you act so sulky.
- 12:26So your worst fear for example, is that she would lie to you
- 12:29about whether you're good in bed.
- 12:30If you act defensive and difficult, you are ushering.
- 12:34That she will, of course, lie to you about whether you're going
- 12:37to bed because she doesn't want to deal with the Trap and all
- 12:40that will hit her when your ego detonates, you know.
- 12:44So the best way to make sure that you can communicate,
- 12:46effectively to your wife is to do your internal work in your
- 12:49own individual therapy on how to not think of other people's
- 12:54opinions at. So goddamn important.
- 12:56And I have a podcast out on that.
- 12:58And it was like why how he could stop caring what people think or
- 13:03whatever. And I have some Mantra in there
- 13:05that's like fuck those people. So, in this it's kind of an
- 13:08ironic Mantra because would be fuck your wife.
- 13:11That's what you want to be doing, is fucking your wife.
- 13:13But in this case, you would be saying, fuck her.
- 13:15Like not like in a sense like I'm being mean about her.
- 13:19But all right, so she thinks that I could give her better
- 13:22head. All right.
- 13:23Good to know I mean kind of but who cares like it's not like it
- 13:27doesn't mean anything about me as like a man.
- 13:30It means that within the context of are extremely close by In
- 13:34marriage with minimal practice. I have not attained like, Guru
- 13:38status at cunnilingus, what shock would that be?
- 13:42You know, I mean shit you got to get off the bench, you know to
- 13:45get good at you know, baseball, that's the sport with bench,
- 13:48right? So like if you've not had that
- 13:51much experience with your wife and she's been very close to
- 13:54communication, how could you have gotten better?
- 13:56Do you think God fuck it? Fuck are, you know I mean to
- 13:59really like how could I have gotten better so it's not like a
- 14:03thing where I'm some Person with a learning problem.
- 14:06It's like, I never got feedback. So now thank God.
- 14:09I'm learning to shelve my ego and maybe I'll get some
- 14:11feedback, you know, it's just got to be like, whatever the
- 14:15larger macro problem is, the one you're looking to sell the
- 14:20micro. Short-term problem, is temporary
- 14:23ego pain. Because somebody says something
- 14:25you don't want them to say, you can't stop people from saying
- 14:28things, you don't want them to say without real problems so you
- 14:33can certainly stop. Your wife from ever being honest
- 14:36with you, you might have done it already by acting defensive and
- 14:39difficult, but that doesn't help that doesn't help your problem
- 14:43at all, because nobody listens to this show, because their
- 14:45marriage is perfect. So, obviously your marriage is
- 14:47not perfect and no marriage is perfect.
- 14:49But, you know, it's like Animal Farm.
- 14:51Some of us are more equal than others.
- 14:54The point I'm making is, if you want to communicate with your
- 14:57wife, you got a fucking communicate with your wife.
- 14:59You got to put your ego on the shelf, and you have to just
- 15:01speak the things that you are thinking.
- 15:04Unless They are insulting, don't insult her.
- 15:06Do not say what I'm actually thinking is, if you were not
- 15:09such a narrow-minded, bitch. No, you stop yourself that.
- 15:13That is not your best self talking, you know, you be
- 15:16honest. But be honest about the things
- 15:18that you want without name-calling without character,
- 15:21assassination without blaming without Shifting, the blame.
- 15:25And if you can do these things and you will find that your wife
- 15:27is far more open to the idea of sex, then you think, because
- 15:31this happens all the time people come into being couples.
- 15:34Like possibly after sojourns with other couples counselors
- 15:38frequently. Actually that were not as useful
- 15:42and they say she's never going to be able to talk about sex.
- 15:46She doesn't talk about sex. She wouldn't do it in the last
- 15:49the last counselor you know what happened, the last Council has
- 15:52literally never asked her so why do you like in bed?
- 15:55What do you want him to do? What's the issue of?
- 15:56Why you won't have sex with him? What do you think about sex?
- 15:59What did you think about sex growing up?
- 16:01What do you think about in terms of this sex life?
- 16:04How Would you want to do it? Is he any good at this?
- 16:06Is he any good at that? What could he get better at?
- 16:09I'm not scared to ask questions. You can't be scared to ask
- 16:12questions. You could probably find out the
- 16:13same shit from your wife that I could, you know, but you don't
- 16:17know to ask her openly and of course, I'm not going to be
- 16:21defensive because we're not talking about whether I can go
- 16:24down on your wife, we're talking about you.
- 16:26So I get that, it's totally normal to take it a bit
- 16:28personally, but if you take it overly personal, you're never
- 16:31going to get the feedback and the data that Need in order to
- 16:35have the close and connected and open sexual relationship that
- 16:38you want. So, that is some more concrete
- 16:43ways that you could think of when you're thinking, how can I
- 16:47really mobilize this whole being nice thing, and get it to have
- 16:50some effect on our intimacy? Well, this is how you just say
- 16:55things in a nice way after having set up a frame where she
- 16:58comes to associate you with a nice person.
- 17:02That guy, says nice things, my husband died.
- 17:04I can count on him to say something nice.
- 17:06He'll say something comforting and reassuring.
- 17:08Certainly not us. So key defensive difficult, man.
- 17:11My husband rather he is the source of pleasant interactions
- 17:15interactions that I can count on to make me feel positive, right?
- 17:19If you are that person you are shot of her wanting to have sex
- 17:24with you even if it's only at first just for you and it will
- 17:28be because of responsive desire, your chances of gone up by
- 17:33exponents, right? Right?
- 17:34Because she no longer thinks of you.
- 17:36As somebody who never says what they mean, some passive
- 17:38aggressive bullshit indirect sulky - etc, etc, etc.
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