Latest / D/s and BDSM Communication Archives • Loving BDSM / Silly Conflicts in Our Power Exchange
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- 0:10You're listening to Loving BDSM podcast episode four
- 0:13twenty eight. Kayla Lords here with the one,
- 0:15the only, the oh my god. You're so
- 0:17fucking frustrating, but I love you, John Brownstone.
- 0:20That's me. Yeah. In a nutshell. Uh-huh. And
- 0:22and it's on theme for today's time.
- 0:27You know that works both ways. Right? You
- 0:29know, I'm a giver. I,
- 0:32I just
- 0:33wanna give you everything you need, you want,
- 0:35and things you think you don't I never
- 0:37even knew I'm And the things you think
- 0:39you don't need or want, but they really
- 0:41are good for you.
- 0:42Mhmm. Sure.
- 0:44On with the show. You know what? This
- 0:46actually is in line with today's episode.
- 0:49You're right. That's a sad news. We
- 0:53know that we could use some lighthearted moments
- 0:56right now as the world burns around us,
- 0:59but
- 1:00but and not but. And we thought you
- 1:03could too.
- 1:04So let's talk about the nonserious,
- 1:08silly.
- 1:09They're not really arguments. It's not really conflict,
- 1:12but it's Poignments.
- 1:14It's it's the push and pull and small
- 1:16frustrations,
- 1:18that I have found in power exchange specific
- 1:22to power exchange.
- 1:25These are not this is not arguments I
- 1:27would get into with anybody.
- 1:30That one.
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- 6:01that's all I have to say about that.
- 6:02K.
- 6:03And we will get into
- 6:05what I hope
- 6:07is,
- 6:08a lighthearted episode because I think we could
- 6:11all use it. I think we could all
- 6:13use it. It's a little chaotic out there.
- 6:15So,
- 6:21these are not I call them conflicts. I
- 6:23call them arguments. They're really, really not. When
- 6:25we're talking about them amongst ourselves, I say
- 6:28that we're fussing at one another because I'm
- 6:29Southern and that's a term we use as
- 6:31fussing. Okay?
- 6:33Yes. It is.
- 6:35They are never
- 6:37at the level of genuine frustration, like, we
- 6:39have to go into separate rooms and cool
- 6:41off. No. Typically,
- 6:43when
- 6:44often it's me, but not always. One of
- 6:46us breaks the tension. We end up laughing
- 6:48at ourselves because we're being silly.
- 6:50But I have
- 6:53noticed
- 6:54that there are at least two that feel
- 6:56very much, like, power exchange y.
- 7:00I'm sure it can transfer to other types
- 7:02of relationships. I'm sure it does. But these,
- 7:04for me, are very specific to our power
- 7:05exchange.
- 7:06And I just thought we'd talk about it.
- 7:09We'd, you know, dissect it a little bit
- 7:11because I like to do things like that.
- 7:13Because I am a weirdo on the Internet
- 7:14with a microphone.
- 7:16And we'll just keep it light. It hell,
- 7:19this might be a short I might have
- 7:20everything I need to say in twenty minutes.
- 7:22I don't know. I might go two hours.
- 7:25May the odds be ever in your favor.
- 7:27I don't know.
- 7:28I did,
- 7:30man got a pillow. Do I take a
- 7:31nap? You're part of the conversation. Are we
- 7:34gonna do one of these silly little conflicts
- 7:35in front of everybody?
- 7:38That's one. That's one
- 7:41where I feel like I have to be
- 7:42a little not assertive. That's where not aggressive.
- 7:44Assertive. And he just laughs. And then I
- 7:47get, like, am I coming across as too
- 7:49assertive? This was not in my notes, but
- 7:51they were like, am I being too assertive?
- 7:53He's laughing. So clearly, I was not. But
- 7:54also,
- 7:56I I don't I'm not comfortable talking to
- 7:57anybody like that. But also now I'm frustrated
- 7:59because, come on, could we
- 8:01do we get the same fate?
- 8:05Go ahead.
- 8:07So I did try to take notes because
- 8:10these happen
- 8:11at really random times and relatively infrequently. So
- 8:14they're not top of mind. They're not super
- 8:17we're not, like, having, like, a a check-in
- 8:19with one another after these. Like, it's not
- 8:21it's just it's not to that level. It
- 8:23is just
- 8:24people being silly. So let's let's do the
- 8:26first one that actually inspired
- 8:28The this. Okay.
- 8:30Alright.
- 8:31So we're we're talking about a thing. It
- 8:33could be picking a movie to watch. It
- 8:35could be where do we wanna go for
- 8:36lunch. It could be a thing we're going
- 8:38to do. Okay?
- 8:40And we each
- 8:41have
- 8:42a different
- 8:43like, we would each choose something different.
- 8:46But JB is the decider.
- 8:48And so I do a thing that I
- 8:50don't know if y'all ever seen me do
- 8:52before. I'm sure you haven't.
- 8:54I interrupt him while he's trying to tell
- 8:56me what he's decided
- 8:58because another thought popped up.
- 9:01And he takes that information in really fast
- 9:04and then
- 9:05clearly changes his mind. Clearly, like, he was
- 9:08gonna say a and now I added this
- 9:10thought, he's gonna say b.
- 9:12D.
- 9:13No. You haven't done that yet. You're about
- 9:16to see some silly conflict because he is
- 9:18clearly in a mood.
- 9:20Okay. So he was gonna say a. I
- 9:23interrupted,
- 9:24blurted out
- 9:25some new information about what I was thinking
- 9:28about, what I wanted. So he changes his
- 9:30what was gonna be choice a to choice
- 9:32b in my favor,
- 9:35and my brain can't handle it. So I'm
- 9:37like, no. But what do you want? And
- 9:39he goes, we're gonna do this. I'm like,
- 9:41yeah, but you're choosing that for me. What
- 9:43do you want? Because I don't actually care.
- 9:45If I cared, I would have said, hey,
- 9:47please can we do this thing? I don't
- 9:48care what the outcome is. What do you
- 9:50want?
- 9:51And he goes, well, this is fine. And
- 9:53anybody who knows what I'm about to say,
- 9:55you know. This is fine is,
- 9:58to me,
- 9:59code for,
- 10:01I guess I'll live with it. I didn't
- 10:03get what I wanted, but it's fine.
- 10:06And my submissive self cannot handle it. So
- 10:09then we end up, I think five minutes
- 10:11last time, going back and forth. Now, could
- 10:13JB
- 10:15shut it down with one dumb look
- 10:18and an exasperated tone?
- 10:20Yes, he could. If he got, like, genuinely
- 10:23serious with me, he could he would hurt
- 10:24my feelings, but he could shut it down.
- 10:26But I don't know if you're having a
- 10:28good time in these interactions.
- 10:31I don't know if you're letting off some
- 10:33of your own steam and frustration, but we
- 10:35genuinely went back and forth, back and forth.
- 10:38And
- 10:39I just kept going, but I want whatever
- 10:41you want. Let me give you what you
- 10:43want. And what I want is what you
- 10:44want, damn it. Except that's not what he
- 10:45said. He just kept going, but it's fine.
- 10:48It's fine.
- 10:49It's not fine. What do you want,
- 10:53my darling daddy dom, who is the decider
- 10:56of all things?
- 10:58And, yes, anybody who's about to, like, try
- 11:01to talk sense over here. Of course, if
- 11:03he said that's what he wanted, then that's
- 11:04what he wanted because he's the decider. I
- 11:06know. But I'm also paying enough attention to
- 11:08know he changed his mind and I want
- 11:10him to get exactly what he wants. I
- 11:13do not want to be an influence on
- 11:15that. Except in the times I do want
- 11:17to influence it. This isn't one of those
- 11:19times. How how do those
- 11:22I sound like a crazy person whatever. I
- 11:25know. You are. I am. Part of my
- 11:28charm.
- 11:29When we're in those moments Mhmm. How are
- 11:32you feeling? What are you thinking? What's going
- 11:34through your work? Oh, I love it. Do
- 11:36you? I'm almost in tears sometimes. I'm so
- 11:39I'm not frustrated in an angry way, but
- 11:41I'm like a I just wanna do it,
- 11:43you know. I know this is probably gonna
- 11:44drive you nuts when I say it, but
- 11:46I feel when when the when we're doing
- 11:47that, when we're Mhmm. I'm I'm in my
- 11:49element.
- 11:51That makes sense. It well,
- 11:53is it your dom element, your sadist element,
- 11:55or your bratty element? All of the above.
- 11:58Oh my god. All of the above. Because
- 12:00when we're in the in that kind of
- 12:01mode, I can exercise all those things. So
- 12:04you Okay. You can see my brain melting
- 12:06down over its fine and you can just
- 12:09keep it safe. How far can I get
- 12:10it to melt?
- 12:18So
- 12:19we haven't talked about this in, I think,
- 12:21probably years.
- 12:22But what I'm hearing is I keep being
- 12:24mind fucked and not knowing I'm mind fucked.
- 12:27And now I'm being I'm realizing in this
- 12:29moment with an audience
- 12:32that you mind fuck me in these situations.
- 12:36You
- 12:37look so proud of yourself. You look so
- 12:39proud of yourself.
- 12:43Oh my god. Oh my god.
- 12:47So what would I have to do for
- 12:49you to know you've gone too far? Do
- 12:50I need to, like I would not because
- 12:52I can't and I but I have to,
- 12:54like, break down in tears when I have
- 12:55to get legitimately angry? Safe word.
- 12:59What? You should've, like, sent me a memo.
- 13:05So
- 13:07I
- 13:10mean, so when you tell me it's fine,
- 13:12you know, it's the it's fine is making
- 13:14me crazy. Of course.
- 13:18Okay. So
- 13:20thinking back to that last little
- 13:23back and forth. Right? Mhmm. That silly little
- 13:26conflict that wasn't really conflict.
- 13:28What did you actually genuinely
- 13:30want in that like, did you want the
- 13:33suggestion I made? Or were you so ambivalent
- 13:35to either one? It was like, oh, this
- 13:38is an opportunity to have fun.
- 13:40No. I I actually
- 13:45I actually did want
- 13:47what you wanted
- 13:48at the time. You couldn't just tell me?
- 13:52I got to mind fuck me.
- 13:55Come on. It was a lot more fun
- 13:56that way. Oh, bro.
- 13:58We have room. For you.
- 14:02For you.
- 14:04I'm so glad
- 14:06I could be a source of fun and
- 14:08amuse it for you. I live to serve.
- 14:11I live to serve.
- 14:13I live. Hey. To serve. For all the
- 14:15grief
- 14:16that you give me.
- 14:19I mean, I'm not gonna say I don't
- 14:20give you grief. Yeah. But my grief comes
- 14:23in a
- 14:24in a, ultimately, you're gonna get what you
- 14:26want. I'm trying to, like, nudge that's the
- 14:29second one we're about to do. I'm trying
- 14:30to nudge you to that point. Yeah.
- 14:33So
- 14:36before I knew I was being mind fucked
- 14:37here's the thing. I have no doubt
- 14:39that minimum half the people listening
- 14:42went, he's mind fucking her the moment I
- 14:44described it and explained it. I just need
- 14:47to know that some people out there did
- 14:48not know until he admitted it, so I
- 14:48know I'm not alone. Okay? We've talked about
- 14:48that
- 14:49God
- 15:01you are who you are, and our relationship
- 15:01is what it is. Because I believe every
- 15:04Because I believe every word that comes out
- 15:07of your mouth. The only time I don't
- 15:09is if I see the sadistic little sparkle
- 15:11in your eye and I go, wait. Are
- 15:13you fucking with me?
- 15:14But he tells me a thing and I
- 15:16go, clearly,
- 15:17that is fact. And I will, you know,
- 15:19I will deal with that information however I
- 15:22deal with it. It literally
- 15:24never fucking occurs to me that you are
- 15:27mind
- 15:28fucking me. Never.
- 15:30Never.
- 15:32Never. I am the little duckling following him
- 15:36wherever what whatever path we're fucking on. I
- 15:39mean, until I veer off the path and
- 15:40he's like, get your ass back here or
- 15:42follows me. But
- 15:43you know what I meant.
- 15:46Because when when I before I knew I
- 15:47was being mind fucked, I was thinking of
- 15:49it, from my perspective at least, as I
- 15:52desperately want to give you what you want.
- 15:54Mhmm. And I feel
- 15:57like I am somehow
- 15:58not doing that. Oh, but you are.
- 16:01Now I know.
- 16:03Now I know.
- 16:06Oh my god.
- 16:09I am so glad I could be
- 16:11both a source of amusement for you and
- 16:14for everybody else out there going, oh, lord.
- 16:17I can't wish you didn't see that one.
- 16:22Oh my god.
- 16:25So for anybody who's like, how can I
- 16:27don't like to do this and how can
- 16:28I be, you know, my bratty self or
- 16:30my sadistic self as a dumb without, like,
- 16:33doing things I don't wanna do? This. This.
- 16:35Just mind fuck your partner.
- 16:36Just fucking mind fuck them
- 16:39with their own my trust in you is
- 16:41what allows you to mind fuck me. Yes.
- 16:43My absolute, utter belief in you.
- 16:46Mhmm. Oh, yeah. And you have no complexion.
- 16:49You're like, yeah. I know. I'm using that
- 16:50to my phone. Yeah. So x in the
- 16:54livestream
- 16:55I'm gonna read what Silent said earlier because
- 16:59that was on point too. But x said
- 17:03in the livestream, desperately trying to give him
- 17:06what he wants while simultaneously
- 17:08getting him exactly what he wants.
- 17:12Yeah.
- 17:14Goddamn it. No. But Silent, thank you. This
- 17:16is a wonderful description. Silent in the livestream
- 17:19chat. So there are two crows in Kayla's
- 17:21brain. One is a people pleaser and the
- 17:22other has ADHD, and they cannot stop screaming
- 17:25at each other. And then she goes, and
- 17:27clearly JB is standing between them with a
- 17:29bag of peanuts. Peanut. Peanut pew. Peanut pew.
- 17:31Peanut pew. Peanut
- 17:39I'm not what I'm about to say, I'm
- 17:41not saying to take away your fun. Have
- 17:43your fucking fun. Here's here's the thing. Here's
- 17:45here's what will happen. We will have this
- 17:47conversation.
- 17:47I feel away right now. Foolish is what
- 17:50I feel.
- 17:51And and it's funny, and I know it
- 17:52is. And then give it a week or
- 17:54two, we will be in that same back
- 17:56and forth.
- 17:58I'll just be frustrated going, but I wanna
- 18:00give you what you want. And he'll go,
- 18:02but that's fine. Just to watch me get
- 18:04spun up. I will forget. I will forget
- 18:06every time. Folks, how many years have we
- 18:08been sitting in front of these mics? Ten.
- 18:11Okay.
- 18:12And and how many Nine and a half.
- 18:14How many times how many times
- 18:17have I said I live for that back
- 18:18and forth between us? But you speak to
- 18:20me. You say words to me about your
- 18:23wants or your
- 18:24thoughts or your beliefs or your I believe
- 18:27you
- 18:29without question.
- 18:32If you keep like, if you were looking
- 18:34at me like that,
- 18:35podcast listeners, I wish you could've seen that
- 18:38little sparkle in his eye. It was a
- 18:40devious sparkle.
- 18:42If you look at me like that Mhmm.
- 18:44Yes.
- 18:45I'm gonna go wait.
- 18:47Something's up here. He's having way too much
- 18:49fun. But have you ever noticed I'm sure
- 18:51you have. Maybe I should learn to play
- 18:52poker. Probably.
- 18:54Well, I don't know. You get proud of
- 18:56yourself when the evil glint will be in
- 18:57your eye. That's true. I'm not sure you
- 18:59have. You do with me, but I think
- 19:01you have a poker face with me because
- 19:03I'm not always paying that much attention. I'm
- 19:05doing several things at once. My mind is
- 19:07in several places at
- 19:10once.
- 19:11But I think that's the other part. When
- 19:13we start having these back and forths of
- 19:14what do you wanna do, what do you
- 19:16like, make a decision between a and b,
- 19:19and I clearly want b,
- 19:22and I don't know that you clearly want
- 19:24b either. You're fucking with me. I'm usually
- 19:26doing something else. Mhmm. And so I'm not
- 19:28focusing on you until I get to that
- 19:30point of frustration. Do you remember? I swiveled
- 19:32my chair around. I was like, but what
- 19:34do you want? Right.
- 19:36Mhmm. Mhmm. Yeah.
- 19:43Excuse me, folks.
- 19:46Don't hurt yourself.
- 19:48Yourself. Okay.
- 19:49Okay.
- 19:50So now that we've all learned that Kayla
- 19:52can be mind fucked way too easily or
- 19:54reminded, some of y'all already knew you've been
- 19:56here for these moments.
- 19:58Okay. Okay. This one happened last night. I
- 20:00went, oh, you have to attempt to remember
- 20:02this
- 20:03until the next morning to write it down.
- 20:06So look. Look. Look. I know what this
- 20:09is gonna sound like when I describe it.
- 20:12I wanna go on the record.
- 20:16That I do not consider myself a brat.
- 20:18I just I want that as not a
- 20:20label I use for myself.
- 20:23No matter how this sounds to anybody out
- 20:25there.
- 20:26So first of all, I have to set
- 20:27the scene for you you for where this
- 20:29specific example comes from. It is not the
- 20:32only way this happens. It's just
- 20:35the most recent and it's top of mind.
- 20:38So I think we've mentioned this in episodes
- 20:40in the past.
- 20:41By the time we go to bed and
- 20:43it's like we're putting, like, we're reading at
- 20:44night before we go to sleep. Right?
- 20:46By the time we have put all devices
- 20:49away, we're not reading. We're genuinely kinda laying
- 20:51down in that last little moment before we
- 20:53finally go, let's try to go to sleep.
- 20:54We turn the sleep story on that kind
- 20:56of thing.
- 20:57We lay there, and it's it's this intimate,
- 20:59like, moment of quiet
- 21:01closeness. We're together.
- 21:03And I can't handle that, so I get
- 21:05zoomies.
- 21:06If I don't get zoomies, I was I'm
- 21:09sick or I I'm exhausted from the day
- 21:11Yeah. Emotionally or physically.
- 21:13So most of the time, I get Zoomies.
- 21:18I feel like I'm do you remember the
- 21:19time I explained what budgie budgie was? Yeah.
- 21:21This is how I I feel like I'm
- 21:22a crazy person trying to explain our crazy
- 21:24shit to
- 21:28people. Okay. So we mostly sleep naked.
- 21:30I always run hot. JB always runs cold.
- 21:33We have this little ritual we do where
- 21:36I
- 21:38put my humidities on him because he's cold
- 21:40and these girls are warm. Okay? It's a
- 21:43furnace under there. So we're very pressed up
- 21:45against one another. Try to cool the nuclear
- 21:47reactor. We are we're very pressed up against
- 21:49one another. And I get my zoomies. And
- 21:51so I get wickled and I move around.
- 21:53And for a long time, that was just
- 21:55what I did. He might go calm down,
- 21:56baby girl. Just, you know, it's time to
- 21:59sleep. He might get, like, say something verbally,
- 22:02and I would mostly listen.
- 22:04And then at some point,
- 22:06semi recently, he started doing this thing where
- 22:09he would just wrap his arm around and
- 22:11pin me to the bed.
- 22:13Fucking hell. I love that shit.
- 22:17That was happening at around the time we
- 22:19were kinda starting to reconnect. Yes. Right? Because
- 22:21you were feeling playful again, and you're kinda
- 22:23getting a little rougher than you had been,
- 22:25which I fucking love. I fucking love. I
- 22:27don't want I don't have the I mean,
- 22:28I will. I don't but I don't love
- 22:30being tied up with ropes, but you wanna
- 22:32pin me down in a way where I
- 22:33can still breathe so I don't get claustrophobic
- 22:35and panic? I'm here for it. Well,
- 22:38I
- 22:39might I might sometimes be
- 22:42somebody who has to push against the boundaries
- 22:45that I've been set up for her.
- 22:49So I will get wiggly
- 22:51until he pins me down,
- 22:52and then I'll keep wiggling just to see
- 22:54what he's gonna do.
- 22:56I understand how that makes me sound.
- 22:59That is still not a label I use
- 23:00for myself.
- 23:02So last night,
- 23:04this this is our routine.
- 23:06And I can tell when he's not in
- 23:07the mood, he's really tired.
- 23:09I might get zoomies, but he's they're we're
- 23:11not flying. Well, just shut it down. Right.
- 23:13Right. But last night,
- 23:15I'm wiggling and wiggling, and he pins me.
- 23:17And then he lets up, and I wiggle
- 23:19and wiggle. And I'm, like, exaggerating. It's clear
- 23:22what I'm doing. I can't mind fucking anybody.
- 23:24Okay. I know. I somehow become an octopus
- 23:27in the bed. Where did she get all
- 23:28these limbs? Why are they all moving?
- 23:32But
- 23:33it's obvious what I'm doing. I'm not I
- 23:35can't my fuck shit. Okay? He knows what
- 23:37I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. He
- 23:38does not pin me down.
- 23:41I almost start crying.
- 23:43He's like, what is wrong? And I said,
- 23:46yes. I'm clearly doing this so you will
- 23:48pin me down and when you don't pin
- 23:50me down, I think you don't care about
- 23:52me.
- 23:57So I hurt my own fucking feelings.
- 24:00That's why it's a silly little conflict,
- 24:03Clearly one-sided.
- 24:05It did well, here's what I liked about
- 24:06it. I was able to give
- 24:09clear communication on a thing that was
- 24:12look. When I say bothering, I mean
- 24:15on the level
- 24:17of, like,
- 24:19it really is not a bother. It's more
- 24:21of a, I kinda wish that had gone
- 24:23different. Right?
- 24:24It's not a real concern. It's not a
- 24:26real problem. But I was, like, a little
- 24:28bothered by it. And I'm not used I'm
- 24:30there are certain things I'm not good at
- 24:32communicating. I have I have to make myself
- 24:33do it.
- 24:34But when we have these moments, I do
- 24:36find I am communicating
- 24:37better because Mhmm. I think it's because I
- 24:39was in baby girl, like, mode. I mean,
- 24:42even my my voice was Oh, yeah. Looser,
- 24:45more relaxed.
- 24:46And did I pout and whine? Of course
- 24:49I did.
- 24:52So one,
- 24:54for just to clarify,
- 24:56do not consider myself a brat.
- 24:59We were doing a simple cause and effect
- 25:01here. Okay? I wiggle, he pins. I wiggle,
- 25:03he pins. This is what I like. The
- 25:05zoomies have to be contained somehow so we
- 25:07could both sleep.
- 25:09And then he interrupted the pattern,
- 25:11and I didn't like that.
- 25:13So here's
- 25:15Can't give them what they want all the
- 25:17time. Yes, you can.
- 25:23I try to give you what you want
- 25:25when you let me. But this is different.
- 25:30I
- 25:31know. I don't like it.
- 25:34So
- 25:35in the
- 25:36that was a moment where you were not
- 25:38play acting. You were you found that highly
- 25:41amusing. That was hilarious to you. But I'm
- 25:44curious,
- 25:45mostly because I like to, like, peek into
- 25:47the mind of a dominant that I clearly
- 25:48do not understand because I can't even tell
- 25:50when I'm being mind fucked.
- 25:51What are you thinking about in those moments?
- 25:53Is it just a teasing playful thing? Or
- 25:55is there, like, a process in your brain
- 25:57that's like
- 25:58It's it's a teasing playful thing.
- 26:01Okay? That that's really what it comes down
- 26:03to.
- 26:04And,
- 26:06the most that's going on in my head
- 26:08is how far can I take this? Oh
- 26:10my god.
- 26:17Yeah. You yeah.
- 26:19My
- 26:20edge of the cliff is way further back
- 26:23than your edge of the cliff.
- 26:26But you know what that is? It's because
- 26:27I I
- 26:29don't want genuine conflict. Mhmm. I'm not good
- 26:33at
- 26:34the back and forth of even pretend
- 26:37superficial,
- 26:38playful arguing. Like, that's,
- 26:40like, that's a thing that I kinda
- 26:43I don't know. I don't know if it's
- 26:44a it's a thing my brain is just
- 26:46pushing back against. I don't know if it's
- 26:47an anxiety thing. Like, I don't know where
- 26:48it's happening in my body, but my body
- 26:50is like, danger. Danger. Do not push too
- 26:53hard.
- 26:55And what I'm hearing is Well, dangerous
- 26:58for you. Yeah. But I'm, like, I'm I'm
- 27:01my brain or my body or my whatever
- 27:03is interpreting it as literal real danger and
- 27:05not playful danger. Gotcha. But that's also because
- 27:08this is one that didn't make the list,
- 27:10but it's very true.
- 27:11Depending on my headspace,
- 27:14and so I can't ever predict if I'll
- 27:16react this way. Sometimes he can give me
- 27:17the dumb voice, and I kinda turn into
- 27:19a pouty teenager. I'm like, whatever. It's fine.
- 27:23I'm not dumb enough to let him hear
- 27:25me mumble to
- 27:28myself. And sometimes I push
- 27:31I'm not reading the room
- 27:32right well, and I push,
- 27:34and you give me
- 27:36right. You and it's You're poking a bear
- 27:38now. Right. Right. And it's so here's what's
- 27:40funny. This is this is my problem with
- 27:41conflict, and I'm pretty sure we did an
- 27:43episode on conflict.
- 27:45Maybe a few episodes. Anyway, I'm so conflict
- 27:47averse that even though
- 27:49my logical rational brain goes, he does not
- 27:52hate you, He's not genuinely angry with you.
- 27:55He would only be angry with you if
- 27:56you kept pushing.
- 27:59You're not actually in any danger.
- 28:01My
- 28:02my anxiety
- 28:03leaps up like I'm being chased by lions.
- 28:06Okay? In the across the Savannah.
- 28:09And I just I oh, and that is
- 28:11the thing. And
- 28:13I don't know if I'll ever be able
- 28:16to do the back and forth push and
- 28:18pull
- 28:19as far to the edge as you're able
- 28:21to take it. Mhmm. Because
- 28:25I
- 28:27look. All of this personality really cannot be
- 28:29contained,
- 28:31and I know it's a lot. I needed
- 28:33a microphone and a ten year long podcast
- 28:35to get some of it out. Okay?
- 28:38So I don't actually trust that I won't
- 28:41push too hard,
- 28:42and I won't get angry daddy dom or
- 28:45annoyed daddy dom.
- 28:48And the part of me that is
- 28:50the good girl You have experienced that if
- 28:52you don't. I don't like it. I don't
- 28:54like it. I don't like it.
- 28:56I don't like it. Like,
- 28:59look. This is really a conversation for a
- 29:00therapist. I'm aware. But I spent all of
- 29:03my formative years,
- 29:06all of my childhood through teenage years into
- 29:09college
- 29:11desperately not wanting to be in trouble,
- 29:14not wanting to be perceived
- 29:16as,
- 29:18a problem.
- 29:20And so here I am
- 29:22at the ripe old age of 45, and
- 29:25I'm here here I come along. I know.
- 29:27And, you know, you'd think I'd be desensitized
- 29:29to it.
- 29:31No. Silent's right. There it's two there are
- 29:33two crows. And one is a people pleaser.
- 29:35And just
- 29:38I, like,
- 29:39I don't even know
- 29:41sometimes how to handle your playful annoyance when
- 29:44it's not you're not even being sharp. You're
- 29:46just, like, you're playing, and I'm like,
- 29:49I'm gonna be unloved forever. Oh, god. Like,
- 29:52that's I know that's not true. I know
- 29:54that's not
- 29:56true. Tell my lizard brain that.
- 30:02And so I was proud of myself when
- 30:04I just, like, said to you, when you
- 30:07don't do the thing, it hurts not feelings.
- 30:12You know? He's a very giving dom. He
- 30:14immediately pinned me down, and I was like,
- 30:16thank you. Could you put some more weight
- 30:18there? I could I could use it.
- 30:20Wrap your leg over something.
- 30:22But, you know, I gotta keep you on
- 30:24your toes if I do it every time
- 30:25you come to expect it. I feel like
- 30:27I live my whole life on my toes.
- 30:31I feel like the universe is doing a
- 30:34good enough job of keeping me on my
- 30:36toes. Like that? Okay. Okay. Right. I just
- 30:40I don't care what position you keep me
- 30:41in other than that. If it's, you know,
- 30:44head down ass up, it'll be good. If
- 30:46it's flat on my back, it'll still be
- 30:48good. I just don't know if on my
- 30:49toes is where I need to be at
- 30:52that time. Could that be
- 30:55the whiny little baby girl speaking? Maybe.
- 30:58Maybe. Excuse me.
- 31:00But I do you know, part of this,
- 31:02it's
- 31:03this is how we've kind of always been.
- 31:04We've had this this sort of back and
- 31:06forth,
- 31:07not real conflicts, but playful, but still having
- 31:10there's there's slight edge of
- 31:13right? Whatever.
- 31:15I don't know what that facial expression was.
- 31:16I could not podcast listeners, I could not
- 31:17describe it to you. I don't know what
- 31:18I was thinking. There we are.
- 31:21It's more prevalent and noticeable now because it
- 31:24had been So long? It had been so
- 31:26long since it was genuinely light hearted. Mhmm.
- 31:29Like, we have we are gonna make each
- 31:31other laugh. We're gonna do a little bit
- 31:33of a push and pull.
- 31:34You know, all of that's always gonna be
- 31:36there. But there, I don't think it's been
- 31:39as playful, which is why I haven't clocked
- 31:42it. I haven't thought about it Yeah. We
- 31:44as something different or I mean, that that
- 31:46is something I have noticed
- 31:48between us,
- 31:49recently
- 31:50that,
- 31:51you know, we we get into these
- 31:54little,
- 31:56episodes, maybe.
- 31:57And,
- 31:59yeah. A few times we've,
- 32:00laughed so hard lost our breath.
- 32:03Oh my god. Recently. Yeah. I'm I'm
- 32:06of a life experience and age where I
- 32:09can't laugh laugh too hard, sneeze too hard,
- 32:11or do a lot too hard. I'm about
- 32:12to pee on myself.
- 32:14Challenge accepted. Right. Exactly.
- 32:17And we have had
- 32:19I am absolutely that person who is, especially
- 32:22if we're standing, I'm bent over laughing. I
- 32:24also have to go, stop. Stop. I'm about
- 32:25to be on myself, and I'm cross I'm,
- 32:27like, clenching. I'm kegeling for my fucking life.
- 32:33So yeah. Yeah.
- 32:36I think that
- 32:38in the past
- 32:40little bit when we've been this way, because
- 32:42we are this way just in there's been
- 32:44a little bit more of a tinge of
- 32:47real frustration,
- 32:48so it was never a actual argument, actual
- 32:51conflict, but it wasn't fun to think about
- 32:53or talk about later because
- 32:56there was still the
- 32:57kind of aspect.
- 32:59Okay. This third one, this is the last
- 33:01one I've got unless something comes to your
- 33:03mind Okay. That we've gone through recently. This
- 33:05one happens almost every fucking day. Yeah.
- 33:09Yeah. And it sometimes does carry a little
- 33:10bit of genuine frustration
- 33:13because
- 33:13we are we are on the verge of
- 33:15arguing for no fucking reason. Like, it's not
- 33:17even playful. It's like, why are we fussing
- 33:20at one another?
- 33:21And that is
- 33:23whatever conversation we're talking about, whatever conversation we're
- 33:26having, a decision will need to be made
- 33:27or a plan of action. There will be
- 33:29some
- 33:30activity action that comes from what we're talking
- 33:33about. Maybe it's a thing we already know
- 33:35we're gonna do and we're trying to, like,
- 33:37game out the details. Maybe it's a decision
- 33:39that has to be made. I don't know
- 33:41because it happens in every facet of every
- 33:44fucking thing we do together.
- 33:46We
- 33:47will be talking about it.
- 33:50I I think I recognize this more than
- 33:52you do. Okay. I will recognize
- 33:54that I am saying using different words,
- 33:57basically the same thing that JB
- 33:59is saying.
- 34:01But I'm I'm structuring it a little bit
- 34:03different. I'm coming at a slightly different viewpoint.
- 34:05I am on step three, and he was
- 34:07still talking about step one.
- 34:10You know? It could be anything.
- 34:13And next thing I know, he's getting that
- 34:15sharp
- 34:16tone that I fundamentally fucking hate.
- 34:19Okay. Fight, flight, or freeze. Well, now I'm
- 34:21fighting. Okay.
- 34:25And he
- 34:27like, I
- 34:28JB will get a little defensive because he
- 34:31is hearing something that, it's not what I'm
- 34:32trying to convey.
- 34:33And so I have to go, woah. Woah.
- 34:35Woah.
- 34:37We agree.
- 34:38Why are we fussing? And he always comes
- 34:40back and goes, I don't know.
- 34:43Happened today. Yep. This morning. Today. This morning.
- 34:46Can't remember what the hell we were talking
- 34:48about. Hell either. And that's the that's the
- 34:50beauty of those kinds of things. They're so
- 34:52nonsensical, unimportant. I don't remember. They're such stupid,
- 34:56insignificant
- 34:57And they're silly. Things. Yeah. I'm you know,
- 35:00we absolutely do have disagreements and arguments and
- 35:04even
- 35:04shouting fights. Thankfully, that's very rare. Yeah. They're
- 35:07about real things. And even if I can't
- 35:09remember the details afterwards, I remember
- 35:11the topic. Right? I remember what was going
- 35:13on and how we got there.
- 35:16These small things,
- 35:17either we end up laughing afterwards,
- 35:20either just at ourselves or, like, at the
- 35:22situation,
- 35:23or we go we kind of bluster and
- 35:25then we move they never stick in my
- 35:27brain.
- 35:28Never, never, never, never.
- 35:30Only that the fact of them, that push
- 35:33and pull, that
- 35:35I'm trying I'm trying to get a reaction.
- 35:36You're not giving me my reaction. I'm trying
- 35:38to get a reaction. Right? Those kinds of
- 35:40things. Or this one. This one is probably,
- 35:42of the three, the most actually genuinely frustrating
- 35:45because I don't like to be misunderstood. I
- 35:47don't know if anybody's noticed around here how
- 35:49I am an over explainer and every thought
- 35:51has a parenthetical
- 35:53to explain some backstory to the thought,
- 35:57that I speak the way I write.
- 36:01So I I kinda know where that one
- 36:03comes from. It's one, I don't want the
- 36:05conflict. We already know. Mhmm. So I'm sensing
- 36:08conflict where I'm like, why why why is
- 36:10there conflict? We're talk we're agreeing. We agree.
- 36:12We agree. We agree. Mhmm. But then
- 36:17there's also the oh, and I can't and
- 36:19I'm and I know it drives you genuinely
- 36:21crazy. I over explain because I think you
- 36:24you must be misunderstanding
- 36:26me. You're not getting my point. Now that
- 36:28is a time when you'll use your your
- 36:31dumb voice to shut it down and my
- 36:32feelings genuinely are hurt because I'm like, but
- 36:35I had a little bit more I need
- 36:36to say. And what if he doesn't understand?
- 36:38And he is having this response based on
- 36:41a thing he thought I said?
- 36:43Yes. I know I need a therapist. Whatever.
- 36:52Anyway, so that one does carry
- 36:54a genuine edge of frustration, but it does
- 36:56depend on
- 36:58it's it's
- 36:59context dependent. If we were laughing and joking
- 37:01and then found ourselves in that silly little
- 37:04back and forth, what are we arguing about?
- 37:06I can even if you get sharp, I
- 37:07can laugh it off. Off. But if it's
- 37:09been a really serious tense moment and we've
- 37:11led into it,
- 37:13then it's not fun. Then it's not silly.
- 37:16It's silly in the the sense of
- 37:18why, what is happening. This is unnecessary.
- 37:21But it's not like silly like, oh, I'm
- 37:24giggling about this now.
- 37:27And I just wanna do things that make
- 37:29me laugh about it later. That's that's my
- 37:32that's what I want. I we don't get
- 37:33what we want. I know, but that's what
- 37:35I want.
- 37:36So yeah.
- 37:37Here's the thing. Did this does this conversation
- 37:40have an absolute point? No. I I know.
- 37:43We need it lighthearted,
- 37:45and I basically am throwing this out here
- 37:47so that I can
- 37:48so I know somebody. It might be one
- 37:52out of however many of you there are.
- 37:54Somebody can relate. Somebody has had their own
- 37:57similar experience
- 37:58and is like, yeah that happens to us
- 38:00too, maybe in a slightly different way. I
- 38:02just need to know I'm not alone.
- 38:05And if you are recognizing
- 38:07any of this in your own self, you're
- 38:09not alone. And I'm glad I could give
- 38:11that to you. Because sometimes I'll walk around
- 38:13here going, am I in crazy town? More
- 38:15so than I'm obviously in crazy town. Like,
- 38:18are we in crazy town together? What is
- 38:20happening
- 38:21here?
- 38:23The more serious version of the we're are
- 38:25we're saying making the same point, saying it
- 38:27differently, you know, think we're in conflict
- 38:30is the one, and we have talked about
- 38:31this before,
- 38:32where we get into an unnecessary
- 38:35argument and we both agree on the outcome,
- 38:37but
- 38:39moods got heated. Yeah. And I'll kinda yell
- 38:42out in the middle, you know, we're we're
- 38:44supposed to like one another. We're on the
- 38:47same team here. What?
- 38:51So for somebody who is extremely conflict averse,
- 38:53I will do that. It's a I think
- 38:55it's a sense of safety thing. I don't
- 38:56know. I don't know what it is because
- 38:58it
- 38:59it fluctuates. It shifts. Like, some days, I'm
- 39:01really I'm on it, and I can just
- 39:03tell you what needs to be told to
- 39:04you. And other days, I
- 39:07I just can't. But yeah.
- 39:09So those are some of our
- 39:11very silly little conflicts that are mostly
- 39:14the first two definitely are about our power
- 39:16exchange. Yeah.
- 39:19There's no real point other than somebody out
- 39:21there
- 39:22can commiserate, and I'm not a the only
- 39:25crazy person. I mean, we're all crazy here,
- 39:27but at least I'm not alone in this
- 39:29part of my crazy is is what I'm
- 39:31I'm saying. No.
- 39:33Told you this to be short. I don't
- 39:34I we just we just needed we just
- 39:36needed to laugh. Yeah. Yep. We just
- 39:44Anyway
- 39:45It's fun.
- 39:49Is it?
- 39:52Is it?
- 39:53Yes.
- 39:55So I guess we'll just keep the hilarity
- 39:57going
- 39:58and go into a bonus section. I got
- 40:00nothing to add to any of that y'all.
- 40:01I'm actually I'm emptied out. I didn't know
- 40:03it could happen. Here we go. 428
- 40:06episodes later, I could actually just hit a
- 40:08point where I had nothing else to say
- 40:09about a topic. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Because
- 40:12because I didn't think there was a point.
- 40:13I was just having fun. Mhmm. So, are
- 40:16we good? I don't know. I don't know.
- 40:19Keep it kinky y'all. And we'll see you
- 40:21next week.
- 40:31Daddy.
- 40:35Yes, baby girl. A
- 40:37your fellow dom and sadist is petitioning for
- 40:40an extended bonus section.
- 40:42Oh. It's not me asking.
- 40:44That's true. It's not. It's somebody that, you
- 40:45know Yeah. You're on kind of a similar
- 40:47level with, and I know you respect a
- 40:49lot, and and they have suggested it. I
- 40:51I see that. That that could be
- 40:54a a possibility. Sometimes you have to give
- 40:56the people what they want.
- 40:57Understand.
- 40:58I don't know that we got enough to
- 40:59talk about to justify an extended bonus section.
- 41:04We can give the Lola update. Yep. Lola
- 41:07had her,
- 41:08appointment at the Ophthalmologist. Ophthalmologist.
- 41:11It's okay. I'll say it for you. Thank
- 41:12you. It's the service I provide. And,
- 41:17we we did get
- 41:20They had they had to get her on
- 41:21a scale.
- 41:22Yeah.
- 41:24And and it was
- 41:26she she cooperated.
- 41:28She is down to seventy eight pounds. And
- 41:30really closer to seventy seven. Yeah.
- 41:33Yeah. She's it's
- 41:35So she she is is Slowly but surely.
- 41:38Now you're starting to to lose some of
- 41:41that weight. She's got a little waistline at
- 41:43her back hips. It's adorable.
- 41:45And,
- 41:47as they should have, the the vet tech
- 41:49and the, doctor fell in love with her.
- 41:51Mhmm. How can you not?
- 41:53Also, she did look pitiful because even though
- 41:55this I've never been to a vet specialist
- 41:58before. It's either been a busy vet's office
- 42:00or the busy vet's ER office, right, where
- 42:04it's all chaos all the time. This place
- 42:06was quiet. We were, to our knowledge, the
- 42:09only ones there. There was not a lot
- 42:10of noise going on.
- 42:13Very, very calm place. And she took one
- 42:15sniff around and went, fuck this shit. Mhmm.
- 42:18And we were dragging her down the hallway.
- 42:20Now did I go out out of, like,
- 42:22the little
- 42:24jar thing they have on their desk? Mhmm.
- 42:26A treat. Hold it in front of her
- 42:27nose so she could sniff it and, like,
- 42:29inch towards the exam room and she kind
- 42:32of followed me. We just need to get
- 42:33a a a stick to attach to a
- 42:36harness with with a treat hanging off of
- 42:39it. Yeah. Like, carrot on a stick. Mhmm.
- 42:41So,
- 42:43you know, as silent asked if there's a
- 42:45goal weight. When we
- 42:49adopted her, she was what? 60? She was
- 42:51fifty seven pounds. Fifty seven. Mhmm. She needs
- 42:54what the vet told us at the time
- 42:55is she needs to stay between about fifty
- 42:57five and sixty five Mhmm. To be at
- 42:58her healthy weight. Yeah.
- 43:00Yep. And she's getting there. And and I
- 43:03I have noticed,
- 43:04now and I I was kinda thinking that
- 43:07there was weight, you know, dropped and because
- 43:10I did see her,
- 43:12you know,
- 43:13moving around and jumping up and down couch
- 43:15a little easier. I think if she was
- 43:17more active, the weight loss would I mean,
- 43:20I think that's true of everybody in this
- 43:22household.
- 43:23If we were more active, that would be
- 43:25a little easier. And, Susan asked, there's eye
- 43:27doctors for dogs? Apparently, yes.
- 43:30They're they do dogs, cats, horses. Right. And
- 43:34and apparently, even, like, small pets and Mhmm.
- 43:37Non mammalian pets. Yeah. But, ultimately,
- 43:40what they decided is they do not recommend
- 43:43surgery surgery for her right now.
- 43:46Well, he he he said she does not
- 43:48have I think Glentropion.
- 43:49No. But he also said that the thing
- 43:51she does have this haze over her eye.
- 43:54We're gonna try to prevent a thing that
- 43:56can occur called bulla.
- 43:59Anybody who's a vet person maybe knows stuff
- 44:01that I don't know if I'm saying that
- 44:02right, but these they're bubbles that can actually,
- 44:03like, appear in, like, her eyeball.
- 44:06And if that occurs, she could potentially need
- 44:09surgery. But he's like, she's been really lucky
- 44:11with her eyes so far, because we were
- 44:13explaining how long her eye has been this
- 44:14way. He's like, they haven't formed yet, the
- 44:17bullet, whatever they're called. We're gonna do the
- 44:19the
- 44:20drops in her eye to try to prevent
- 44:22them. And if it prevents them over the
- 44:23next six months,
- 44:25then you you're probably out of the woods
- 44:26and should be fine. Okay.
- 44:29So, yeah, she gets to live with eye
- 44:31drops. And and as for the haze clearing
- 44:33up,
- 44:34it may, it may not. Yeah. He even
- 44:36said our goal is not to clear up
- 44:38the haze in her eye. It's to make
- 44:39sure these little bubble things don't form. And
- 44:41it's yeah. But it's Yeah. Eye drops twice
- 44:44a day for six
- 44:46months.
- 44:47And, you know, he
- 44:49he he stated, because I did ask,
- 44:51you know, there is nothing
- 44:53apparently painful
- 44:54Yeah. For her about with any of this.
- 44:56Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
- 44:58Her she
- 45:01she is not blind in the eye.
- 45:03He said
- 45:05her she still has sight in the eye,
- 45:07it's just slightly hazed. And he said it's
- 45:09mostly gonna be hazed in bright light. He's
- 45:11like, so in dark light when her her
- 45:14eyes, like, dilate and the pupils get really
- 45:16big,
- 45:17there's less of a haze. There's more pupil
- 45:19than there is haze. He and he and
- 45:20this was fascinating. He was like, I love
- 45:22it when they explain shit so you can
- 45:24kinda understand it. I liked it. He goes,
- 45:26in bright light, those pupils get smaller. He's
- 45:28like, well, then there's less more of the
- 45:30haze is covering.
- 45:31Mhmm. He said it's probably more like if
- 45:33you go into a room when there's condensation
- 45:35and fog after a hot shower. He's like,
- 45:37she can see, but it's gonna be a
- 45:39little foggy, a little blurry. I'm like, okay.
- 45:42Now he,
- 45:43you know, they they you know, I I
- 45:45wanna say this about the vet tech Mhmm.
- 45:47There.
- 45:49She
- 45:51was
- 45:52familiar with pitties. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay?
- 45:56And anytime
- 45:58before she would do anything with Lola,
- 46:03Like, she had to take some pictures of
- 46:04Lola and and get some pictures of the
- 46:06eye. She let her sniff the camera. Everything
- 46:08she did, she let her sniff it first.
- 46:09Everything she did, she let us let her
- 46:11sniff it first. And I'm thinking, yeah.
- 46:13Mhmm. That's how you do it. Like how
- 46:15you do it. We do. I think Lolo
- 46:17really wanted to like them. Yeah. Because they're
- 46:20vet people. They're good with animals. They've they've
- 46:22had us at ease. Yeah. But she was
- 46:24just like, I hate this place and everything
- 46:27about it. Yeah. I can smell the the
- 46:28fear. Well, she's she she has been dragged
- 46:31around I know. To a lot of different
- 46:33appointments and and there's gonna be one more
- 46:35coming up. Yeah. We're gonna go back to
- 46:37getting her allergy shot. Allergy shot. There's a
- 46:39good chance that some of the problems she's
- 46:41experienced with her eye, because it was not
- 46:43the entropion with the eyelids and the eyelashes
- 46:46that we had no. It was not that.
- 46:47There's a good chance that some of the
- 46:49injury to her eye came from scratching
- 46:52because of allergies.
- 46:55So fun times there.
- 46:57But, yeah, it was they were really nice.
- 47:00It was very it's not your typical
- 47:03not your typical vet experience. No chaos.
- 47:06But, also, when I paid the bill, I
- 47:07went, oh, that's right. This is a specialist.
- 47:10Yep. These are specialist prices. Yes. Yeah.
- 47:14Yeah. So one one of the questions he
- 47:16did ask too over there, he goes, you
- 47:18wouldn't happen to have any other animals at
- 47:20home, do you?
- 47:21Two ornery cats.
- 47:24So
- 47:25he, he said there there is a possibility.
- 47:28They at this point, they do not know
- 47:30for sure. It's too old to answer for
- 47:31about. He he thinks there may be a
- 47:33possibility that something poked into her eye, like
- 47:36a a sharp, you know, like Like a
- 47:37cat scratch? Club.
- 47:39And,
- 47:40you know, it it did not do serious
- 47:43damage. It didn't go deep enough to do
- 47:45serious damage. I'm gonna say, she is so
- 47:46lucky. She is so lucky. Right. Right.
- 47:49So, you know,
- 47:51so what,
- 47:52it could have been caused from her playing
- 47:54with her toys, the way she gets she
- 47:55gets very aggressive She does. With some of
- 47:57her toys. And I egg her on. I
- 47:59go, kill it, kill it, chill. I know.
- 48:00I do too.
- 48:05Yeah. So so that that's kinda
- 48:08She gave JB side eye for the whole
- 48:10rest of the day. Oh my god. When
- 48:12we got home,
- 48:14she did not wanna come right in the
- 48:16house. Mm-mm. She wanted to stay outside.
- 48:20She was so pissed at me.
- 48:22I don't know why she stopped pissed at
- 48:23me. I'm there too. She was so pissed
- 48:26at me.
- 48:27Kayla went in the house, and I was
- 48:29like, okay, I'm gonna let her, you know,
- 48:31walk a little bit. No. You know what
- 48:33she did? She walked out into the middle
- 48:35of our street
- 48:36and lay down. Just and Just just lay
- 48:38down. I'm not moving. You can't make me.
- 48:41And nope. That's where that's where she She
- 48:43became an immovable object. Yep. Now the one
- 48:45thing that was it was heartbreaking, but it
- 48:47was also super sweet. So at the vet
- 48:50in the exam room,
- 48:52they had this bench like seat that
- 48:54might have been a little smaller
- 48:56in length as, like, a love seat or
- 48:58something. Right? There was only a foot and
- 49:01a half amount, 18 inches max space between
- 49:03me and JB.
- 49:05When they started coming at her eyes to
- 49:07put drops in, to look at them, to
- 49:09get close, she jumped
- 49:11up in between this she's not she's she's
- 49:13not she's like her mom. She's big boned.
- 49:16So she ain't a small girl.
- 49:18She wedged herself in between us and then
- 49:22hid her face, like, at the back of
- 49:23this kinda wannabe couch thing.
- 49:26And, you know, they were able to manipulate
- 49:27her head safely so they could look at
- 49:28her eyes. And she refused to be away
- 49:28from us so bad that even as her
- 49:28ass started to
- 49:30refused
- 49:31to be away from us so bad that
- 49:33even as her ass started to fall off
- 49:34the side, because there literally was not enough
- 49:36room for her, she,
- 49:38like,
- 49:39front legs just kept herself
- 49:41up. I I had to put an arm
- 49:42under her butt. And then when she finally
- 49:44hit her I cannot take this another fucking
- 49:47second
- 49:49moment, she Pushed herself behind me. Pushed herself
- 49:52behind me. So I was just sitting on
- 49:54the edge,
- 49:55and she was pushing her weight into me.
- 49:57I don't know if it was a comfort
- 49:58thing or it's like, get the fuck off
- 50:00this couch. It's mine. Or if I stay
- 50:02close to you, they can't find me. I
- 50:03don't know what it was. Right. But I
- 50:05was like, okay. She doesn't hate us. She
- 50:07thinks we're hers we're safe for her. She
- 50:09wants to hide behind us. But
- 50:13Yeah. And it just breaks your heart because
- 50:15they're being kind hurt and they were in
- 50:17the vet the tech was even like, we're
- 50:19not gonna there's no shots. We're not even
- 50:21taking temperature. We're just concerned with the eye.
- 50:23Right. And,
- 50:25so we understood as human beings
- 50:29what it was fine, but she was just
- 50:30she was so stressed out. She was like,
- 50:32I don't wanna be here. I hate everything
- 50:33about this. We walked into the lobby. The
- 50:35lobby looked like,
- 50:37like a human medical doctor's office. It was
- 50:39very, very a special to specialist
- 50:42office,
- 50:43specialty office. What are words? I don't know.
- 50:46Like, very nice.
- 50:48And she she we were the only ones
- 50:50in there.
- 50:51She immediately noped out and went and put
- 50:54her nose on the glass door to walk
- 50:56out. She's like, we walked in this way.
- 50:57We can walk out this way. Way out.
- 51:00Yeah. Oh my god.
- 51:02Look, she got a treat afterwards. Okay? Yes.
- 51:04She did. She did. She got some munchkins
- 51:06from Dunkin',
- 51:07and they over they gave us too many,
- 51:09so we also got some Munchkins from Dunkin'.
- 51:11Yeah.
- 51:12But So so that that's that's kinda where
- 51:15Lola's at. Mhmm. Mhmm.
- 51:18And,
- 51:20what else?
- 51:24I didn't announce it because it's almost over
- 51:26as of day of recording. By the time
- 51:27most people hear or watch this, it will
- 51:29be over. Kinkery's been having a sale,
- 51:31and you've been, like, running around
- 51:34chicken head cut off kinda mode to get
- 51:35the restocks done.
- 51:38It's been, you know, it's been good for
- 51:40those who can, you know, or like, yeah.
- 51:41Yeah. I'll buy some new toys right now
- 51:43while the world's on fire.
- 51:47But that's taken up
- 51:48a lot of
- 51:50my time. Mhmm.
- 51:52Okay. I'm only gonna talk about this because
- 51:53I have bitched about this in the past,
- 51:55and I was sort of pleasantly surprised. I
- 51:58had my annual well woman visit where they,
- 52:00you know Mhmm. Do the they root around
- 52:03up there and make sure most all is
- 52:06well.
- 52:09I walk at first, I don't usually have
- 52:11anxiety over going to the doctor. Like, I
- 52:13mean, a kind of college disappointment is not
- 52:15the most fun. Okay?
- 52:18I I don't,
- 52:20but I'm usually fine.
- 52:22Something about it had me very anxious.
- 52:25I think it was because I really don't
- 52:27vibe with this doctor and every other appointment
- 52:30prior I have felt like I've
- 52:32had to fight for the treatment that, you
- 52:34know, I think I need. I mean, I
- 52:36defer to a doctor's expertise, but it's like,
- 52:40everything I'm learning this can I try this,
- 52:42please? Right? And and she's she's done it
- 52:44for me. And this time, I walked in,
- 52:47they already had my prescriptions ready. We didn't
- 52:49even have to discuss whether I needed them.
- 52:51I was like, oh, clearly you need them.
- 52:54She actually knew what she was in there
- 52:55for to do with me. I didn't have
- 52:57to remind her three times like I have
- 52:59done in the past.
- 53:02She just we are still not in the
- 53:05same, like,
- 53:06we don't have the same vibe, but it
- 53:08was such a much more pleasant
- 53:11experience. And here's what I I realized, and
- 53:13it's a thing that I think people know
- 53:15but you don't think about.
- 53:16Every other visit I'd had with her was
- 53:19before
- 53:20a knee? A knee surgery she desperately needed.
- 53:24She was willing to, like, she had to
- 53:25be out of work for like two or
- 53:26three months for this knee surgery.
- 53:29And
- 53:30I'm thinking, I'm guessing that she was probably
- 53:33stressed, probably in pain, very uncomfortable prior to
- 53:36all that. She said her niece she told
- 53:38me, knee surgery went really well. Yes. Because
- 53:40I it's like talking to a completely different
- 53:41person. No. And I was like, okay, that's
- 53:41that is the power of having
- 53:43a completely different person. No. I was like,
- 53:44okay. That's that is the power
- 53:46of having pain, stress, and or worry
- 53:49alleviated a little bit because it she was
- 53:51and, hell, maybe the couple months off to
- 53:53just get away from it all helped as
- 53:55well. I don't know.
- 53:57But, yeah, it was
- 53:59it was straightforward.
- 54:01It
- 54:02she
- 54:03I didn't have to tell her 85 times
- 54:05what was happening and why we're there. She
- 54:08actually had I'd had blood work done in
- 54:11December and normally she would just look at
- 54:13the most recent blood work and never compare
- 54:15it to anything and go, well, it looks
- 54:17kind of okay to me. And I'd have
- 54:18to go, well, I was looking at the
- 54:20history of blood work and this
- 54:22I mean, you have to advocate for yourself.
- 54:23Sure, but I should not be
- 54:26talking more doctor speak than the doctor.
- 54:29And this time it just wasn't like that.
- 54:30But I had gotten myself so worked up
- 54:32and so,
- 54:33like,
- 54:34just on edge about the whole thing that
- 54:37by the time got home, we ended up
- 54:38running more errands after that. I I fell
- 54:41apart.
- 54:42It's like,
- 54:43like my brain has not caught up with
- 54:45the fact that we are not in fact
- 54:46being chased by wild animals
- 54:49and I built it up and then it
- 54:50was anticlimactic. And I was, I think I
- 54:52didn't know what to do next. Oh my
- 54:54god.
- 54:56I was like, I just
- 54:57silent ass. They're still poking around up there
- 54:59post hysterectomy. Yes. Not not. Okay. So anybody
- 55:03who has ever,
- 55:04had a pap smear, had a speculum
- 55:07placed in places that speculums can go,
- 55:11my
- 55:11exam,
- 55:13since I now have no uterus and no
- 55:15cervix,
- 55:16is
- 55:17not as uncomfortable, physically uncomfortable,
- 55:20and not quite as invasive. Like, that speculum
- 55:23didn't have to hang out there for five
- 55:25minutes. Right? There were no cotton swabs going
- 55:28up there and zooshing around.
- 55:31There was an exam, but, yeah, it was
- 55:35my in my from my perspective, mild compared
- 55:38to pre hysterectomy surgery. Gotcha. Mhmm. Mhmm. Okay.
- 55:42Mhmm.
- 55:44Yep.
- 55:45Yeah. For anybody who's like, I didn't need
- 55:47to know that much about the vagina. Well,
- 55:49we all get to learn around here. Okay?
- 55:53Y'all have to know that if I had
- 55:55I am an clearly, I'm an oversharer
- 55:58when I am comfortable.
- 56:00If I had been getting periods this whole
- 56:02whole time that y'all have known me in
- 56:03this way, y'all heard way too much about
- 56:05my periods too. I would tell you when
- 56:07I had cramps and was cranky. I would
- 56:08not hide that shit because if I have
- 56:10to live with it, so does every fucking
- 56:12body else.
- 56:13But you have never known me.
- 56:17Well,
- 56:18the amount of time you know me, I've
- 56:19never had a period.
- 56:20Correct.
- 56:21Yeah.
- 56:22You you don't know how happy you should
- 56:25be about that.
- 56:31So
- 56:32yeah.
- 56:33Yeah. Excuse me.
- 56:35Oh, and I had I had health concerns,
- 56:37and she actually addressed them in a coherent
- 56:40way and gave me a plan.
- 56:42I was of action, and I was like,
- 56:44okay. Okay. Look at you doctoring over here.
- 56:47I'm
- 56:48we're still two very different people. Right? Like,
- 56:52we would not interact if we did not
- 56:54have this professional relationship.
- 56:56But, yeah, it was much better. So that
- 56:58was nice. Mhmm. Pleasant surprise. Yeah.
- 57:01And she she's so funny. Well woman exam
- 57:04in a under US
- 57:07health insurance laws, you're not supposed to be
- 57:09charged for it. It's supposed to be it's
- 57:11preventative.
- 57:12You don't get billed for it. Except, because
- 57:14of course there's fucking loopholes.
- 57:16If they have to diagnose you with something
- 57:17or write a brand new prescription for you
- 57:19Yeah. Or discuss any health concerns,
- 57:23then they have to bill for that. And
- 57:25she she found
- 57:27I'm not talking about it. It's fine. It's
- 57:28nothing serious. I just don't wanna talk about
- 57:29it. She found something. She's like, oh,
- 57:33I found that. I'm diagnosing that.
- 57:37She's gonna get billed, isn't she? And the
- 57:38note taker's like, mhmm. She's gonna get billed.
- 57:40I was like, thanks for
- 57:43caring.
- 57:44Thanks for caring. I appreciate
- 57:46it.
- 57:49So yeah.
- 57:52Yeah. It was it was really weird. I
- 57:54walked in expecting one thing,
- 57:57completely different outcome, and then just kind of
- 58:00emotionally collapsed. I we're driving down the road
- 58:02running errands, and I'm like, tears are just
- 58:04streaming. I'm like, I don't even know why
- 58:06I'm crying. I just need to release the
- 58:08pressure, I think.
- 58:09It was weird. Yeah.
- 58:14So yeah. I mean
- 58:16oh, I think we're finally gonna be on
- 58:19the the next step on the replace the
- 58:22kitchen floor saga. Yes. Yes. Yes. The money
- 58:24is finally gonna be, it looks like, back
- 58:27in our hands
- 58:28tomorrow. So we could go to the bank
- 58:29and go, here, hold our money for us.
- 58:31Mhmm. And then we gotta find a contractor.
- 58:32Then we gotta find a contractor. Mhmm. I'm
- 58:34hope so And I have thoughts, so I'm
- 58:36gonna talk to you about that. Cool.
- 58:38This is on top of,
- 58:39we have to deal with the RAV. Mhmm.
- 58:41And you you know, I did the research.
- 58:43You Yeah. Got the next steps, so I've
- 58:44thrown that to you. But we're under,
- 58:47an artificial,
- 58:48deadline because we wanna get it taken care
- 58:50of and off our insurance before Before we
- 58:52go. The next payment. Mhmm.
- 58:54So Yeah. And then there's just always
- 58:58something. You know, I'm I'm There's always something
- 59:00to tell you. I I think the RAV
- 59:03knows
- 59:04because I moved it yesterday. Mhmm.
- 59:06It ran just fine, didn't it? No. No.
- 59:09It was bad. Yeah. Oh, no. I figured
- 59:12it'd start, like, running like a champ for
- 59:13you. It's like, don't get rid of me.
- 59:15No. I like it here.
- 59:16Well, I wish I didn't have to, but
- 59:19yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It it, went
- 59:22after I
- 59:23started it. Mhmm. Oh, did not sound good.
- 59:26Oh, yeah. Yeah. Did not sound good.
- 59:29I we're gonna we're gonna get creative at
- 59:31some point, I'm sure, about not just having
- 59:34the Corolla because that's gonna be
- 59:39did it. Yep. But it
- 59:42that's not you don't usually see a Corolla
- 59:45rock out. No. No. No. No. No. No.
- 59:48Vans and pickups
- 59:51or SUVs.
- 59:52Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.
- 59:54Yeah. Yeah. And it's
- 59:57it's kind of in the backcountry a little
- 59:59bit, and you you don't, like, you drive
- 1:00:01down a little lane, and then you kinda
- 1:00:02go off road on Yeah. It's a grass.
- 1:00:05It's a dirt driveway
- 1:00:07that's about,
- 1:00:08And you come off the driveway because you
- 1:00:10park drive across the grass. Yeah. Right.
- 1:00:13The Corolla. That's gonna be interesting. Mhmm. Mhmm.
- 1:00:17That's gonna be interesting. Yep.
- 1:00:21So yeah.
- 1:00:22Yeah. I'm doing that, and we've, you know,
- 1:00:25we were talking about doing some more yard
- 1:00:27work,
- 1:00:28stuff around the house that needs to be
- 1:00:29done. Oh, yeah. It's another thing we're
- 1:00:32working towards and might be doing getting tree
- 1:00:35work done around here.
- 1:00:37So that will be, get estimates for Oh,
- 1:00:40god.
- 1:00:41When we when we first when we first
- 1:00:43moved in here, I had somebody come in
- 1:00:45and freshly do all the Mhmm.
- 1:00:48All the trees.
- 1:00:49And and they did a really, really fine
- 1:00:51job of it, and
- 1:00:53I have been able to,
- 1:00:58keep up with it, you know, for the
- 1:01:00most part and keep it,
- 1:01:02you know, maintained. Mhmm. But now it's back
- 1:01:05to that point
- 1:01:07that, kinda need a a professional to come
- 1:01:09in with their Mhmm.
- 1:01:12Cherry pickers and stuff and get up there
- 1:01:14and There's a lot of fucking adulting in
- 1:01:15this homeownership
- 1:01:18Look, I'm I'm grateful that we have the
- 1:01:21luxury truly of owning our own home. Yeah.
- 1:01:23However, that luxury is then,
- 1:01:27balanced out by the, oh my god, that
- 1:01:29that has to be done too.
- 1:01:32Mhmm. And and yet the oldest is now
- 1:01:34finding out how
- 1:01:36when things break down in an in a
- 1:01:38rented apartment,
- 1:01:39that maintenance is not,
- 1:01:41gonna be right there. No. No.
- 1:01:44I I don't think he's had the experience
- 1:01:46yet, but he will probably, at some point,
- 1:01:48have the experience of, yeah. Yeah. We came
- 1:01:50out to look at that broken thing, but
- 1:01:51we basically just, you know, put some duct
- 1:01:53tape and spit on it. It'll hold together.
- 1:01:56You'll call us when it breaks again, but
- 1:01:57we're not putting any actual
- 1:01:59funds into
- 1:02:00truly fixing this. Yeah. He's he's having that
- 1:02:03kind of Mhmm.
- 1:02:04But I still I still
- 1:02:07just revel in those moments where he looks
- 1:02:08at me and goes, I can't believe I
- 1:02:10wanted to be an adult this bad, this
- 1:02:12soon. What the hell was I thinking? And
- 1:02:15I'm like,
- 1:02:16we tried to tell you. Tell you. You
- 1:02:18didn't believe us. There's something you just gotta
- 1:02:20discover for yourself.
- 1:02:25So
- 1:02:25Yeah.
- 1:02:27Tayshia, I like that. Home ownership is a
- 1:02:30fight against entropy.
- 1:02:32Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:02:33I like that. It's true. I I say
- 1:02:36let the land take it back. Just let
- 1:02:38mother nature have it. Okay?
- 1:02:40Let the ivy grow over the house. I'll
- 1:02:42turn this into a cave. I'll just stay
- 1:02:43in here and never leave.
- 1:02:45Have the, you know, delivery drivers throw packages
- 1:02:48out and, you know Yeah. Cut my way
- 1:02:50out with a machete and just let let
- 1:02:52it go back to the land.
- 1:02:54It's fine.
- 1:02:57Yeah. Yeah. I think that right now, it's
- 1:02:59hard to be like, oh, we've got this.
- 1:03:01Or we haven't even had a chance to
- 1:03:02talk about, like,
- 1:03:04doing more things
- 1:03:06purposefully
- 1:03:07and specifically towards our power exchange because it's
- 1:03:10fucking
- 1:03:11adult life bullshit. There's there's been a lot
- 1:03:14there's been a lot of adulting lately. Yes.
- 1:03:17There has.
- 1:03:18But
- 1:03:21we're getting shit done. We are getting shit
- 1:03:23done. And it is a nice feeling to
- 1:03:24finally get shit done. And and we're we're
- 1:03:27moving forward on many things. Mhmm. So,
- 1:03:30you know, I I
- 1:03:32I feel feeling,
- 1:03:35more and more in a good place. Mhmm.
- 1:03:37Yeah. You are definitely steadier and calmer and
- 1:03:40Mhmm.
- 1:03:41Yeah. I'm I'm the one struggling, not because
- 1:03:43there's, you know,
- 1:03:45life is bad or anything. It's just it's
- 1:03:47I I it's a little too chaotic, and
- 1:03:50I can't settle. And I just I just
- 1:03:52I just wanna
- 1:03:54I I just want to do the things
- 1:03:56I wanna do in the way I wanna
- 1:03:57do them, when I wanna do them on
- 1:03:59my own time with no misrepresentations.
- 1:04:02That's all I want.
- 1:04:05But
- 1:04:10I don't have anything else. About it for
- 1:04:12me. I mean, yeah. I've been Yeah.
- 1:04:17What? I don't know. Yeah. I know. No.
- 1:04:19I'm just playing with my hair now. Podcast
- 1:04:21listeners, I'm sorry you don't get that to
- 1:04:23see that because I'm sure it's scintillating.
- 1:04:27All that being said, this was not really
- 1:04:28an extended bonus section. Sorry. We're a little
- 1:04:31too boring right now.
- 1:04:34So I guess we should go. Yeah. I
- 1:04:36think there's things you wanted to do. There
- 1:04:38are. I'm positive there are things I'm supposed
- 1:04:40to be doing. There are?
- 1:04:42Do I remember what they are? No. I
- 1:04:43don't. That's what to do lists are for.
- 1:04:45Did I write a to do list? No.
- 1:04:46I did not. What?
- 1:04:48What? So we're gonna
- 1:04:51go.
- 1:04:51We will see y'all next week. Yep.
- 1:04:56And that's all I got to say about
- 1:04:57that? Mhmm. Okay. Bye. Bye.