Latest / Tom's Hirschsprung's Podcast / Episode 91 - With Laura O'Reilly (Part 4)
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- 0:02Speaker 1: You are listening to Tom's Hirshbrung's Podcast, a space where
- 0:05Speaker 1: we talk openly about living with Hirshprung's disease. Whether you
- 0:09Speaker 1: live with it, care for someone who has it, or
- 0:12Speaker 1: just want to understand more, this podcast is for you.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Each episode, we will explore real stories and honest conversations
- 0:19Speaker 1: about a condition that often goes unheard. Thank you for
- 0:22Speaker 1: tuning in. Hello, and welcome to episode ninety one of
- 0:48Speaker 1: Tom's Hirshbrun's Podcast. I'm delighted to welcome back for a
- 0:52Speaker 1: fourth time, Laura, Welcome back, spar.
- 0:56Speaker 2: It's tame like Hello, Yama. I never know anyway, I'll
- 1:00Speaker 2: always gladly come back on.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Oh you are you will always welcome anytime, anytime I.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Break years off. But yeah, it's all good.
- 1:10Speaker 1: But you've always done so much to say You've.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Always that's a problem for me.
- 1:15Speaker 3: But you know, not just coming on for no reason.
- 1:19Speaker 1: You've always got There's always things going on in your life.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Always busy, busy, busy, which is the best best way
- 1:26Speaker 3: to be.
- 1:27Speaker 2: It definitely is for someone like me. I can't just
- 1:29Speaker 2: sit around like my brain doesn't switch off like I
- 1:33Speaker 2: sometimes I wonder, you know, is it the coffee. Am
- 1:38Speaker 2: I drinking too much coffee? But I'll never give up
- 1:40Speaker 2: the coffee. So yeah, it's just swings around the boat.
- 1:43Speaker 2: But it's all good. It's all fast paced and I
- 1:45Speaker 2: just trave like that, you know.
- 1:47Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I'm just saying, like, you know,
- 1:50Speaker 1: I don't want to sit around and do nothing, and
- 1:53Speaker 1: always we wanted to planning to do something or doing
- 1:56Speaker 1: something or yeah, whatever I think is the best best
- 1:59Speaker 1: way used to be absolutely.
- 2:02Speaker 2: And like, as you know, I suppose just very quickly
- 2:04Speaker 2: on the whole sickness thing, even though our diseases are different.
- 2:07Speaker 2: When I was sick for long enough for those two years,
- 2:10Speaker 2: like I was homebooned, so I just like you just
- 2:15Speaker 2: remember those horrible times of being from a home to
- 2:18Speaker 2: the hospital to the pharmacy that was my life. So
- 2:21Speaker 2: like I am going back that way ever, you know, so.
- 2:26Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
- 2:26Speaker 1: And if anyone's listened to the first three parts, which
- 2:29Speaker 1: are definitely several people at they'll know your journey up
- 2:33Speaker 1: to now, and it's a heck of a story. If
- 2:35Speaker 1: you haven't gone back and listened to those three parts,
- 2:38Speaker 1: definitely do so, because that journey from you know, from
- 2:43Speaker 1: like the no exercise, and the illness right to what
- 2:48Speaker 1: we're just about to talk about is is fascinating.
- 2:52Speaker 3: Really inspirational.
- 2:53Speaker 1: I don't mean that lightly. That that's a really really
- 2:56Speaker 1: inspirational story and I love it. But speaking of what
- 3:00Speaker 1: you're doing now, what are you doing now? No?
- 3:05Speaker 2: Obviously yeah from someone that never lifted a dumbele or
- 3:11Speaker 2: walking near a gym in their life, I would run
- 3:13Speaker 2: the opposite way, like completely, as we know, and I've
- 3:18Speaker 2: been in the gym now two and a half years consistently,
- 3:21Speaker 2: never missed one training session. Just fell in love from
- 3:27Speaker 2: the get go. I don't even know how I fell
- 3:30Speaker 2: in love with it because I always hated it, but
- 3:34Speaker 2: I just fell in love from the get go. So
- 3:36Speaker 2: fast forward to now, well last year, maybe I was
- 3:40Speaker 2: just making a lot of progress. I was really like,
- 3:42Speaker 2: I've worked really hard on myself, both physically and mentally.
- 3:46Speaker 2: I guess the stepbacks really set me back when I
- 3:51Speaker 2: was really at my sickest and it was either sink
- 3:55Speaker 2: or swim, so I turned to fitness through Ale true Dan,
- 4:00Speaker 2: my coach, and it just flipped everything everything for me.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Like so that was two and a half years ago.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Last year I had this notion because I was so
- 4:14Speaker 2: interested in health and well being and fitness. I was
- 4:20Speaker 2: always one to ask somebody in questions, as you know
- 4:23Speaker 2: Tom Blake, I just you know harp On. So I
- 4:27Speaker 2: was always like, you know the way like somebody just say,
- 4:30Speaker 2: for example, a bicycle caer, you just do this and
- 4:33Speaker 2: everyone knows you just go and do your movement, Whereas
- 4:37Speaker 2: I would look at that and I'd look really deeply
- 4:39Speaker 2: into it and I'd be like, what muscle is, like
- 4:43Speaker 2: how the muscle is contracting, and how to slow the movement.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Like little things were making me so much more interest,
- 4:53Speaker 2: but like in depth that I was like, this is
- 4:56Speaker 2: something I really love. Like i'd watch someone working out,
- 5:00Speaker 2: be it a reel online, and it's not that I'm
- 5:03Speaker 2: watching just like a good fitness reel. I'm watching the
- 5:08Speaker 2: body contracting. And I really like loved the whole anatomy
- 5:12Speaker 2: of watching the body change and grow and build muscle
- 5:15Speaker 2: and stuff. And I suppose for my own fat last
- 5:18Speaker 2: journey and what can be buried underneath a lot of
- 5:21Speaker 2: fat and stuff, and it's just really so last year.
- 5:26Speaker 2: It just I just said to myself, you know what,
- 5:30Speaker 2: Like I've worked for myself for fourteen years now, so
- 5:36Speaker 2: I'm well equipped independently to know like bouts of about
- 5:42Speaker 2: business in and out what worked. There will be a
- 5:45Speaker 2: lot of trilinara, you know, not to be disheartened at
- 5:47Speaker 2: the beginning and all this kind of stuff. So I said, right,
- 5:50Speaker 2: I'm going to do a personal training qualification. I spoke
- 5:58Speaker 2: to my coach about it. He was like, you know,
- 6:01Speaker 2: you have the passion, you have the flair for it,
- 6:03Speaker 2: why the hell not really supportive all my friends. I
- 6:07Speaker 2: also spoke to family everyone. Everyone was just like, it's
- 6:11Speaker 2: all you talk about anyway, so let's just go do it.
- 6:14Speaker 2: You know, it's all you heard on about these days,
- 6:18Speaker 2: so like it makes sense. So at the end of
- 6:23Speaker 2: last year I signed up to Well. I did a
- 6:26Speaker 2: lot of homework sourceing like a really good reputable company
- 6:31Speaker 2: in Ireland that does personal training courses because as you know, Tom,
- 6:36Speaker 2: nowadays everything's online like everything. You can bloody buy something.
- 6:40Speaker 2: You can buy a course now for like one hundred
- 6:42Speaker 2: quid and you're like automatically qualified and anything like it's wild.
- 6:46Speaker 2: So I wanted to make sure that I was choosing
- 6:48Speaker 2: the correct one, that it was a really good, recognized,
- 6:53Speaker 2: reputable company that would be recognized like throuughe like here
- 6:59Speaker 2: in our and just called REPS Ireland. So they're basically
- 7:02Speaker 2: a firm that's like worldwide known. And yeah, it's just
- 7:08Speaker 2: the best qualification that I could get. So I decided
- 7:11Speaker 2: to skip like the shorter levels like gym instructor all
- 7:16Speaker 2: that kind of thing. And I just said, no, give
- 7:18Speaker 2: me the hardest course, give me the toughest course, give
- 7:21Speaker 2: me the more challenging course. So I just went straight
- 7:27Speaker 2: in for my Level four in Fitness and Nutrition and
- 7:33Speaker 2: started that. Did on the modules again, found it really
- 7:37Speaker 2: interesting just learning about the anatomy, everything about the body.
- 7:42Speaker 2: And I think, like in hindsight or in general, a
- 7:46Speaker 2: lot of people might just think a personal trainer is
- 7:48Speaker 2: just someone that helps you in the gym or you know,
- 7:52Speaker 2: might tell you do a few squats or do this,
- 7:54Speaker 2: or that. My God, like my whole world has opened up,
- 7:58Speaker 2: like you know, Tom, You've done this. So I was like, wow,
- 8:03Speaker 2: like the extremes to know just about anything, you know.
- 8:09Speaker 2: But anyway, I took it all in my striate. I
- 8:11Speaker 2: enjoyed every single module I did, had many assignments to submit.
- 8:16Speaker 2: I was under pressure a lot of the time because
- 8:19Speaker 2: you know, I'm busy anyway, but no, it was something
- 8:23Speaker 2: I definitely wanted to work really hard on. So I
- 8:26Speaker 2: started that or was it early this year actually, and
- 8:32Speaker 2: just worked really really hard. And I had two weekends
- 8:36Speaker 2: then in Dublin with the company in their gym, So
- 8:41Speaker 2: there were two full weekends. There were practical days, theory
- 8:44Speaker 2: days on the spot shouting questions a days and like
- 8:49Speaker 2: the company APEC are amazing, like they're so professional, they're
- 8:53Speaker 2: so experienced there amy like the athletes day train are
- 8:57Speaker 2: up there with like the Irish rugby team and things,
- 9:00Speaker 2: so like really really good company and the trainers are amazing,
- 9:05Speaker 2: really professional. So I knew I was getting trained, well
- 9:10Speaker 2: you could say, so, yeah. I did all that in Jubblin.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Then I came to the second weekend, which was more exams.
- 9:18Speaker 2: It was my final exam, I guess where I had
- 9:21Speaker 2: to create a plan and build a plan with somebody
- 9:25Speaker 2: and execute that and using all their own protocols, remembering everything,
- 9:31Speaker 2: like and you know when you're in that environment and
- 9:34Speaker 2: you're in the hot seat and this is like a
- 9:37Speaker 2: pass or failed situation, and I was really nervous. But
- 9:43Speaker 2: the minute I opened my mouth and I had my client,
- 9:47Speaker 2: and the minute I opened my mouth and started my program,
- 9:51Speaker 2: it just flowed. It was just so natural for me.
- 9:53Speaker 2: I felt very comfortable. The feedback was amazing. He was
- 9:56Speaker 2: just like, you're just like you're just very natural, really
- 10:01Speaker 2: able to like interact and keep someone relaxed and confident
- 10:07Speaker 2: but feeling confident, and you explain really well and instant
- 10:13Speaker 2: passed like it was like amazing, you know, like well done.
- 10:16Speaker 2: So that was me done in August. The relief on
- 10:21Speaker 2: that drive home from Dublin. I was absolutely knackered mentally
- 10:27Speaker 2: because it's always like, you know, you just think the worst,
- 10:30Speaker 2: don't gen You're very like I'm very hard on myself
- 10:33Speaker 2: the best of times, but I do trust what I do,
- 10:37Speaker 2: so I knew i'd do all right, and if I didn't,
- 10:40Speaker 2: there was going to be a reason why I didn't.
- 10:43Speaker 2: But no, all right, Well, that drive home was exhausting,
- 10:49Speaker 2: so got my level for qualification and in the meantime,
- 10:54Speaker 2: I think I mentioned this on the last podcast. I
- 10:58Speaker 2: had taken on like three or four girls at the
- 11:02Speaker 2: beginning of January as a little project for myself, so
- 11:07Speaker 2: basically to coach them full on, coach them and no
- 11:12Speaker 2: half arsenate like I was wanted to be their full
- 11:16Speaker 2: on coach and put everything into practice as I was
- 11:18Speaker 2: going along, and those four girls absolutely nailed it. The
- 11:25Speaker 2: feedback was incredible. They've changed their lives, like so well.
- 11:31Speaker 2: One of the girls recently just hit her ten kg
- 11:34Speaker 2: fat loss, which is insane. I checked in every Sunday
- 11:39Speaker 2: with them. We did progress pictures, I did all their
- 11:42Speaker 2: gym plans, their nutrition, nutrition guidance was always at the
- 11:46Speaker 2: other or at the end of the phone, and I
- 11:50Speaker 2: just felt really confident in what I was doing, you know,
- 11:55Speaker 2: and I was just everything was just kind of making sense,
- 11:58Speaker 2: like this is what I'm meant to do. And so
- 12:05Speaker 2: that was my little project up until I was qualified.
- 12:07Speaker 2: And once I was qualified, I wanted to obviously take
- 12:09Speaker 2: it a little bit further because I'm now legitimately able
- 12:14Speaker 2: to I have all the correct paperwork, insurance, blah blah blah.
- 12:20Speaker 2: So my aim was to just start building a little team,
- 12:22Speaker 2: start building my own coaching platform basically with my own
- 12:28Speaker 2: team and lo and behold, right now, it's the eighth
- 12:33Speaker 2: of September. I have ten clients that are absolutely every
- 12:39Speaker 2: day I'm like wow. So in the space of me
- 12:46Speaker 2: being qualified and to now I think people were almost waiting,
- 12:50Speaker 2: and that's really nice for me, you know. I was
- 12:54Speaker 2: even now like there's three more potentials. And don't get
- 12:57Speaker 2: me wrong, and quantity is never a priority for me.
- 13:02Speaker 2: I'm all quality. You know, if you can commit and
- 13:04Speaker 2: you really want to improve yourself, I'm happy with. It's
- 13:09Speaker 2: not a numbers game at all. Like I just want
- 13:12Speaker 2: to make that clear, because that's just not how I
- 13:14Speaker 2: am at all. But it is a lovely boost when
- 13:17Speaker 2: you have people wanting you to help them and wanting
- 13:24Speaker 2: to pay for a service that I'm so passionately about.
- 13:27Speaker 2: I think I've probably so I showcased that a lot,
- 13:31Speaker 2: but I've probably on like subconsciously just harp on about
- 13:36Speaker 2: it so much that they're like, right, okay, like she does,
- 13:39Speaker 2: actually she is actually passionate about it. So yeah, I
- 13:43Speaker 2: have I have ten full on Jim acting clients at
- 13:48Speaker 2: the moment who we've introduced to Jim Jim to them
- 13:52Speaker 2: for the very first time. They've never been on a
- 13:55Speaker 2: fitness journey. Other people are very experienced, so everyone's goals
- 14:01Speaker 2: are different. It's so interesting. Everyone's at very different levels
- 14:06Speaker 2: and just to be able to adapt to that. I mean,
- 14:11Speaker 2: like everybody lives busy lives. Some people do have chronic illnesses,
- 14:18Speaker 2: and honestly, my mind has just been blown by just
- 14:24Speaker 2: how much it took off. And people were saying to me, like,
- 14:26Speaker 2: what's your goal? You know, and I'm like, right now,
- 14:30Speaker 2: I was only literally qualified. I'm like, right now, I
- 14:33Speaker 2: want to create and build something for myself and my
- 14:39Speaker 2: use and my passion and being able to help other people. Ultimately.
- 14:43Speaker 2: I get such a kick out of on my checkens
- 14:47Speaker 2: on a Sunday seeing people so excited. Their confidence alone
- 14:53Speaker 2: is amazing, their confidence in the gym. Like I've been
- 14:57Speaker 2: on the phone to one of the claims as she
- 14:59Speaker 2: walked into the gym on the first day. She was
- 15:02Speaker 2: absolutely petrified. I remember, I was exactly that. I stayed
- 15:06Speaker 2: on the phone with her and after about fifteen minutes
- 15:12Speaker 2: I left her alone and I was like, you know,
- 15:13Speaker 2: I'm here if you need me or whatever. Like people
- 15:16Speaker 2: are this nervous about a gym, and I totally get it.
- 15:18Speaker 2: It's really intimidating, you know, and people want to do it,
- 15:22Speaker 2: but they're just so nervous or they don't have a plan,
- 15:26Speaker 2: or they don't know what to do where to start,
- 15:29Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's really normal. And she
- 15:34Speaker 2: came out of that first gym session an energy bunny,
- 15:41Speaker 2: like absolutely full of life and like the smile ube
- 15:46Speaker 2: on your face now, Tom is exactly. I was like
- 15:48Speaker 2: this down the phone going That's just made my whole week,
- 15:51Speaker 2: Like just seeing someone be so scared and would never
- 15:55Speaker 2: do it to absolutely triven and sure like we're what
- 15:59Speaker 2: we're two months and now with her, I think yeah,
- 16:03Speaker 2: because she was one of the ones that came on
- 16:04Speaker 2: board just at the beginning of me qualifying, so month
- 16:08Speaker 2: and n no, I don't know, a few weeks whatever,
- 16:11Speaker 2: but she's flying. She calling herself a beast snow like,
- 16:16Speaker 2: full of energy, full of confidence. But look, I do
- 16:21Speaker 2: take my role really seriously and I want my priority
- 16:27Speaker 2: is my clients. And as I said, I've worked for
- 16:30Speaker 2: myself a long time, that would have always been a
- 16:33Speaker 2: case for me. I stand over my work, be that
- 16:39Speaker 2: my fitness side now or my other business, and it's
- 16:44Speaker 2: just all going strength and strength at the moment, and
- 16:47Speaker 2: I'm in this happy bubble and I feel really good
- 16:51Speaker 2: about everything and I was going forward. So how did
- 16:55Speaker 2: I forget this? But last two weekends ago I hired
- 16:59Speaker 2: out a gym just local to me, and my plan
- 17:03Speaker 2: was to bring everybody together. It was almost like a
- 17:07Speaker 2: little celebration of me qualifying, having all the people around
- 17:10Speaker 2: me that have been so supportive, friends, claims, family, everything,
- 17:15Speaker 2: and I led kind of a little bit of a
- 17:19Speaker 2: circuit in the gym. I had them all wearing the
- 17:25Speaker 2: same T shirts. I had lots of, Like I'm such
- 17:28Speaker 2: a novelty person anyway, so we'd like all our water
- 17:30Speaker 2: bottles like the girls brock gifts, which I did not expect,
- 17:34Speaker 2: like a big massive cake, like a little champagne flute
- 17:38Speaker 2: with my coaching on it, like herds like good luck
- 17:43Speaker 2: hards everywhere, like literally all over my windowsill. I just
- 17:48Speaker 2: have a really great support network around me, you know.
- 17:52Speaker 2: And we had the most amazing day, had so much
- 17:56Speaker 2: fun in the gym. I took them through like key
- 17:59Speaker 2: things and watts, RDAs hips, trust bench press, all that
- 18:03Speaker 2: kind of thing, just little things that I guess being
- 18:05Speaker 2: an online coach you don't get to do very often
- 18:08Speaker 2: in person, so just like key things for safety and
- 18:13Speaker 2: just progression and regression and all that kind of stuff.
- 18:17Speaker 2: And we all got really cool pictures, got pictures of
- 18:19Speaker 2: them working out, and honestly, we left there and I'm
- 18:25Speaker 2: just like, I'm even now I'm talking to you and
- 18:28Speaker 2: talking about this that's happening, and I'm just I'm I'm
- 18:33Speaker 2: just so grateful. I can't believe, Like, if you had
- 18:36Speaker 2: said this to me, one of the clients said this
- 18:38Speaker 2: to me actually at that event, if you had said
- 18:41Speaker 2: this to me three years ago that I'd be doing
- 18:44Speaker 2: this now, I would have laughed. There's not in a
- 18:47Speaker 2: million years I would have thought mentally anyway or physically
- 18:52Speaker 2: that I'd be in this position, you know. So I'm
- 18:56Speaker 2: just really happy. And the online support from all my
- 19:01Speaker 2: online friends, including you, Tom and so many others, it
- 19:05Speaker 2: just spurs me on, you know. It motivates me and
- 19:08Speaker 2: it's nice, you know, and having that mutual support system
- 19:12Speaker 2: around you is just paramount. When you're starting something as well,
- 19:17Speaker 2: it can be very nerve wracking, but I think when
- 19:19Speaker 2: you have a little bit of confidence in yourself and
- 19:21Speaker 2: belief in what you're doing, a lot of things come
- 19:26Speaker 2: very natural. I'm not a I'm not a salesperson. I'm
- 19:29Speaker 2: not one of these coaches that will be in your dms,
- 19:32Speaker 2: like what's your goal? Have you had a coach before,
- 19:35Speaker 2: like asking you all these silly questions that nobody wants,
- 19:38Speaker 2: like I've had them myself, you know, nobody wants them
- 19:41Speaker 2: at all. I'm not like that at all. I'm very
- 19:44Speaker 2: much If we can build a reporum where like we
- 19:49Speaker 2: can act and I can help you, then amazing, you know.
- 19:57Speaker 2: So yeah, that's where I'm at now. I'm very much
- 20:00Speaker 2: up and running, still buildings, still always thinking and planning
- 20:05Speaker 2: in the background. But yeah, I've done a complete one
- 20:10Speaker 2: ada and I couldn't be happier. And I'm really proud
- 20:13Speaker 2: of myself. I don't say that very much at all.
- 20:16Speaker 2: That almost like cringes me out saying that about myself,
- 20:18Speaker 2: But I am really proud of myself. Like my mom.
- 20:23Speaker 2: My mom came to that gym event. My mom was
- 20:28Speaker 2: never in a gym in her life. She was like,
- 20:30Speaker 2: what do I wear to this? You know, I'm like,
- 20:33Speaker 2: you're fine. So my brother was there when he had
- 20:36Speaker 2: like put her on all the like like she was
- 20:39Speaker 2: on the skier, she was on the rower, she was
- 20:42Speaker 2: like doing all this. My brother was just taking her
- 20:44Speaker 2: through some things. She absolutely loved it. And when we
- 20:49Speaker 2: came home, she rang me and she was like just
- 20:53Speaker 2: watching you up there doing what you love looking back
- 20:57Speaker 2: to me, also watching you like Adeta on the coach
- 21:01Speaker 2: when you were so sick. It's just amazing, you know.
- 21:05Speaker 2: And I got so emotionally, like I just got really
- 21:11Speaker 2: emotional because and I still do when I think about
- 21:14Speaker 2: it because oh sorry, god, Laura emotionally on a Monday morning.
- 21:21Speaker 3: It's too early.
- 21:24Speaker 2: But no, like what it sounded really cheesy and really extra,
- 21:31Speaker 2: like I just adore what I'm doing. Oh and just.
- 21:38Speaker 1: You, Yeah, it obviously needs I mean you can tell,
- 21:42Speaker 1: like I've spoke to you loads about this, but tell
- 21:46Speaker 1: it means a lot to you. And it's not just
- 21:50Speaker 1: you know, people talk about pts and they have like
- 21:53Speaker 1: an idea in their head of what a PT is,
- 21:56Speaker 1: and you know it's going to be somebody who's gonna
- 21:58Speaker 1: shout at you and is going to do that, is
- 22:00Speaker 1: going to do that, and it just and it couldn't
- 22:03Speaker 1: be further from the truth. And talking to you and
- 22:09Speaker 1: listening to you talk about it, it's obviously you're in
- 22:13Speaker 1: the right place, you know, because you really care about
- 22:18Speaker 1: it and and that's where and that and that can
- 22:20Speaker 1: be like any job, you know, it's whatever you do
- 22:25Speaker 1: you know, like without anybody having to tell you, you
- 22:29Speaker 1: know you're in the right role. Yeah, yeah, definitely in
- 22:35Speaker 1: the right role. But I in some parts you said
- 22:38Speaker 1: they're really really interesting things like the course itself, because
- 22:45Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't realize there were different companies because
- 22:48Speaker 1: the course is like I've done, you know, whether it
- 22:50Speaker 1: be cricket or football or whatever. They're just done by
- 22:53Speaker 1: the national governing bodies. So I didn't realize that there
- 22:57Speaker 1: were I'm not sure. I don't know if anybody else
- 22:59Speaker 1: do you that they're a different companies inside?
- 23:02Speaker 3: So you did lots of research.
- 23:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to do lots of There's so many
- 23:07Speaker 2: institutes in Ireland that offered these courses, and some I
- 23:15Speaker 2: think are just like they fluff it up more and
- 23:19Speaker 2: I wanted like the raw deal. I wanted like the
- 23:23Speaker 2: hard one. I wanted the and like to be fair,
- 23:26Speaker 2: these guys that run the courses, they don't actually take
- 23:31Speaker 2: on just anyone either, which I did. Like I had
- 23:35Speaker 2: a FaceTime with the head coach and I explained to
- 23:38Speaker 2: him where I was at, how much I love it,
- 23:43Speaker 2: and what I wanted to pursue from doing it, and
- 23:48Speaker 2: just my own journey and stuff. Like that, so he
- 23:52Speaker 2: actually almost wanted to know what I'm about before you're
- 23:57Speaker 2: accepted onto the course, so like it's pretty far. But
- 24:02Speaker 2: I like that, you know, I like that. I like
- 24:04Speaker 2: that it wasn't just a random thing because I was
- 24:07Speaker 2: talking to one of the guys there messaging me about
- 24:09Speaker 2: the course and he said, oh, yeah, I'm doing like
- 24:13Speaker 2: this one online.
- 24:14Speaker 4: But like it's absolutely at pistake. Basically he was like,
- 24:19Speaker 4: it's a joke, and I'm like, yeah, I know. I
- 24:23Speaker 4: know what he means because I've seen so many of
- 24:24Speaker 4: them online.
- 24:25Speaker 2: You can literally click a button these days and probably
- 24:28Speaker 2: don't qualified, like and you know, and that's another thing
- 24:31Speaker 2: as well, like I newly qualified. Yes I've been in
- 24:34Speaker 2: the gym consistently two years, but this piece of paper
- 24:36Speaker 2: doesn't make me amazing, you know. And I never stopped
- 24:41Speaker 2: I'll never stop learning. And I'm very humble. I'm not,
- 24:49Speaker 2: I know it all. I'm just not one of those
- 24:51Speaker 2: people are personal trainers that are like that. But yeah,
- 24:57Speaker 2: so yeah, in Ireland it's very there's so many institutes,
- 25:01Speaker 2: like it's crazy actually, but yeah, I'm glad they work
- 25:05Speaker 2: with them, to be fair, definitely.
- 25:07Speaker 1: It's like coaching is driving a car like driving a car,
- 25:10Speaker 1: isn't it. You can you can pass the test, and
- 25:12Speaker 1: you've passed the test, you can drive, but then you
- 25:15Speaker 1: really learn how to drive after you've been driving for
- 25:18Speaker 1: x amount of months.
- 25:19Speaker 3: You don't.
- 25:20Speaker 1: You don't just because you pass the course and whatever,
- 25:24Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that you stop learning or you go right,
- 25:28Speaker 1: I've passed now, don't need to do any more research,
- 25:30Speaker 1: don't exactly, And I imagine you're still one of those
- 25:32Speaker 1: people that still researches. Even though you don't have to
- 25:34Speaker 1: prep for a course. You're still doing research. You're still
- 25:38Speaker 1: finding out different ways, techniques, different bits and piece as well.
- 25:41Speaker 3: I imagine you stay like that.
- 25:43Speaker 2: Always on Sundays, I do all my claims, plans to
- 25:48Speaker 2: do all their check ins, everything, and every Sunday I'm
- 25:54Speaker 2: still because I'd be on the laptop for hours because
- 25:58Speaker 2: everyone is different and I of that, but I'm still
- 26:03Speaker 2: researching always, like not just on a Sunday. Actually every day,
- 26:08Speaker 2: there's not a day goes by. I guess where I'm
- 26:10Speaker 2: not going, Oh I need to look into that, or
- 26:14Speaker 2: I need to find that out about nutrition, or you know,
- 26:17Speaker 2: there's always something and like that's that's that's exactly that,
- 26:22Speaker 2: like about the whole crit thing. You know, you can
- 26:23Speaker 2: pass your driving chest and never drive again, but you
- 26:26Speaker 2: have a past or you can pass your driving chest
- 26:30Speaker 2: and progress and get better and get more confident, and
- 26:34Speaker 2: exactly the same thing, isn't it.
- 26:37Speaker 3: Yes, exactly the same.
- 26:39Speaker 1: And on that sort of preparing as well, you talked
- 26:41Speaker 1: about when you took your SAP and I've not pet exams,
- 26:48Speaker 1: but I've been there for several coaching courses coaching exams,
- 26:52Speaker 1: and you can tell the people in the room and
- 26:55Speaker 1: I had this with my my level three cricket, and
- 26:58Speaker 1: you can tell the people in the room that have
- 27:01Speaker 1: and you can tell the people in the room that
- 27:02Speaker 1: are just winging it. They turn up, they turn up
- 27:07Speaker 1: and they've got a little scrap of paper which may
- 27:10Speaker 1: have some sort of plan on it. I mean, you
- 27:14Speaker 1: don't need reams and reams of the stuff, but you
- 27:16Speaker 1: need an idea of what's going on. And if I
- 27:21Speaker 1: mean it's that the phrase, isn't it your failure to prepare?
- 27:25Speaker 3: Prepare to fail?
- 27:26Speaker 1: And if you, if you, if you, if you don't prepare,
- 27:31Speaker 1: if you don't do the homework, because presumably again you
- 27:34Speaker 1: had kind of we said, you had assignments and you
- 27:36Speaker 1: had effectively like coursework to do. You know, if you
- 27:40Speaker 1: don't do that, obviously, don't do that, you don't pass.
- 27:42Speaker 1: But if you don't do that, you don't learn either.
- 27:45Speaker 1: Or if you do it all at the last minute, yeah,
- 27:49Speaker 1: you might pass, but if you don't actually learn any things,
- 27:53Speaker 1: So what's the point exactly?
- 27:55Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's that's the other thing there. Actually with
- 27:57Speaker 2: the practical exam on the day was like he was
- 28:01Speaker 2: like really impressed on my plan and like why I
- 28:05Speaker 2: chose what I chose and that kind of thing. And
- 28:08Speaker 2: you had to tell me all that at the ENDGA,
- 28:10Speaker 2: you've passed, but you're not actually passed. And I didn't
- 28:14Speaker 2: realize this, but you don't actually pass until day because
- 28:19Speaker 2: we'd do like a twelve week case study at the end.
- 28:24Speaker 2: Really like the amount of detail in this case study
- 28:27Speaker 2: just wasn't even normal. I will never be used again.
- 28:31Speaker 2: But as you said, you actually learn a lot by
- 28:34Speaker 2: doing these things and going really into the nitty gritty.
- 28:38Speaker 2: But like, until that case study was overviewed by the
- 28:41Speaker 2: head coach, you actually haven't passed, regardless of the practical
- 28:45Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, for God's sake, but like
- 28:48Speaker 2: I got, I got my email, like feedback was incredible,
- 28:52Speaker 2: So like total hard work paid off basically like you
- 28:57Speaker 2: definitely like if anybody winned it, it's you can't wing it.
- 29:02Speaker 2: Like not that you might be able to talk the
- 29:04Speaker 2: talk and the practical, but like even still I think,
- 29:08Speaker 2: as you said, they know, don't belfe.
- 29:10Speaker 1: I mean they do, yeah, I mean, like there are
- 29:13Speaker 1: some courses, like you said, you went for like the highest,
- 29:16Speaker 1: the highest you could do. There are some courses and
- 29:20Speaker 1: there are some courts a bit on where you can
- 29:22Speaker 1: just effectively turn up, get it done, and that's it,
- 29:26Speaker 1: and they're not really worth the paper there.
- 29:28Speaker 2: It not, it's not and that doesn't actually excite me
- 29:31Speaker 2: because you know it's way too mediocre for me out exactly.
- 29:37Speaker 3: But but if you can do it, do it properly,
- 29:40Speaker 3: you know.
- 29:41Speaker 2: Properly like grill me. You know, I was grilled and
- 29:44Speaker 2: I wasn't mentally trained from a port. That's what I
- 29:47Speaker 2: signed up for.
- 29:48Speaker 1: So yes, and I love as well the quality over
- 29:52Speaker 1: quantity is again having been in that situation myself when
- 29:56Speaker 1: I've had one to once, I've had you know, roams
- 30:00Speaker 1: and rooms of people you know want to have one
- 30:02Speaker 1: to once and sometimes you just have to say this
- 30:07Speaker 1: is this is absolutely pointless. It's pointlessly doing one to
- 30:10Speaker 1: ones because you know you're not going to get anything
- 30:13Speaker 1: out of it, or you will get something better out
- 30:15Speaker 1: of it if you do whatever, you know, group coaching whatever. Yeah,
- 30:19Speaker 1: So I love that idea that it is very much.
- 30:23Speaker 1: You know, you're going to tailor a plan to somebody
- 30:26Speaker 1: you're going to it's going to be quality rather than
- 30:32Speaker 1: just so.
- 30:33Speaker 3: I've seen it again.
- 30:34Speaker 1: I've seen it before with coaches in my profession, where
- 30:38Speaker 1: you know they'll just go right and book you in here,
- 30:40Speaker 1: book you in here, book you in here, without any
- 30:43Speaker 1: kind of thought of you know, what does this person need?
- 30:47Speaker 1: Can I actually help them? What's my speciality? Because that's
- 30:50Speaker 1: the other thing you mentioned. You know, it's not just
- 30:52Speaker 1: about you doing the course and you knowing X, Y
- 30:58Speaker 1: and z, which muscle is attached to, what bone in
- 31:00Speaker 1: which blah blah blah. It's about you as a person
- 31:04Speaker 1: as well, and it's about you know, what do I bring,
- 31:07Speaker 1: what can I help?
- 31:08Speaker 3: Are we going to be a good fit, et cetera,
- 31:10Speaker 3: et cetera.
- 31:10Speaker 2: That's that's the key thing there. Are we going to
- 31:12Speaker 2: be a good fish, because not every coach will be
- 31:15Speaker 2: suited to every client. And that's totally okay, you know,
- 31:21Speaker 2: that's like anything else, you know, but absolutely like you
- 31:25Speaker 2: do have to you do have to fit each other,
- 31:29Speaker 2: you know. So yeah, for me, quality a million percent.
- 31:34Speaker 2: I don't want massive amounts of clients that can't be arsed,
- 31:39Speaker 2: that are just flippant, you know, Like I put a
- 31:42Speaker 2: lot of time and effort into those. Like one of
- 31:45Speaker 2: my key questions is how committed are you? Are you
- 31:49Speaker 2: really committed? Like are you in a good space to
- 31:53Speaker 2: really like because and I tell them all, you know,
- 31:57Speaker 2: don't come and ask me for a six week fat blast,
- 32:03Speaker 2: because you're going to absolutely hate the six weeks. You're
- 32:06Speaker 2: going to be miserable. You're gonna the minute the six
- 32:09Speaker 2: weeks is over, you're going to go back to old habits.
- 32:12Speaker 2: You're gonna you know, it's a vicious I've done it myself.
- 32:14Speaker 2: I have done it myself. I've done it. I've done
- 32:17Speaker 2: it so many times myself and it got me. Absolutely No,
- 32:20Speaker 2: we're only back to square one. I'm more about implementing
- 32:25Speaker 2: daily lifestyle habit changes, not dramatically, not all to be
- 32:31Speaker 2: changed in in week one very slowly improving your daily choices,
- 32:36Speaker 2: be it nutrition, getting it for a little walk, improving
- 32:42Speaker 2: your sleep, like so many little lifestyle changes. The impact
- 32:48Speaker 2: of that naturally gives you that longevity of a healthier lifestyle,
- 32:55Speaker 2: not a six week fat blast. You know, you're not
- 32:59Speaker 2: going to build your groups either in six weeks, you know,
- 33:02Speaker 2: like these six weeks blue. But like.
- 33:06Speaker 1: I think that's That's another thing, isn't it. Fitness is
- 33:08Speaker 1: I mean some multi trillion pound industry, and there's a
- 33:13Speaker 1: lot of crap advice out there. There's a lot of
- 33:17Speaker 1: people that can I can do this for you in
- 33:19Speaker 1: a month.
- 33:19Speaker 3: No, you can't.
- 33:20Speaker 2: You can't, you know exactly, you know.
- 33:23Speaker 1: You know you can't do that. So it's is about
- 33:28Speaker 1: finding somebody who actually knows what they're talking about.
- 33:31Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is actually becoming a relationship with that
- 33:34Speaker 2: person because you get to know the ox and jones
- 33:37Speaker 2: in their lives, like you're tailor making their plan, you know,
- 33:41Speaker 2: like they've put a lot of trust in you to
- 33:43Speaker 2: help them. And people come and get a coach for help,
- 33:47Speaker 2: so like if you're just flipping them off, well you
- 33:50Speaker 2: see it, like you know, and I'm not I'm not
- 33:52Speaker 2: shaming any big influencers that have master followings or anything
- 33:56Speaker 2: like that. But you can see that, you know, maybe
- 34:01Speaker 2: the unger generation. I'm not sure. Again, I'm not pointing fingers,
- 34:04Speaker 2: but like it's really easy to follow these big, huge
- 34:09Speaker 2: fitness influencers that look absolutely incredible without knowing they could
- 34:15Speaker 2: possibly be taken enhancements for their physique. What they're given
- 34:21Speaker 2: you may not necessarily be what they actually do. It
- 34:24Speaker 2: could be a copy and paste. Like there's so much
- 34:26Speaker 2: actual negative out there. I would rather deal with a
- 34:31Speaker 2: real person who will take the time and listen to
- 34:34Speaker 2: me and not just make me tick boxes and here
- 34:38Speaker 2: you go, there's your plan. Off you go. Everyone. All
- 34:40Speaker 2: of my client's plans are completely different, their goals are
- 34:44Speaker 2: completely different, and I make sure they feel and they
- 34:48Speaker 2: receive that personalized coaching. You know, that's really important for me,
- 34:56Speaker 2: just to make sure that I never want to be
- 34:59Speaker 2: one of those hotes ever.
- 35:01Speaker 3: No, And it's it's it's too easy, isn't it.
- 35:04Speaker 1: It's too easy just to take a plan off the
- 35:06Speaker 1: shelf and just go, oh, yeah, I'll do that. And
- 35:09Speaker 1: instead of, as you said, spending hours on your laptop
- 35:12Speaker 1: because you want to get it right. No, you're not
- 35:16Speaker 1: half asking this. You want to get it right. You
- 35:18Speaker 1: want to make sure that it's properly tailored for them. Yeah,
- 35:22Speaker 1: I mean you could do You could spend ten minutes
- 35:24Speaker 1: on your laptop, do ten plans. Go yeah and do this,
- 35:27Speaker 1: do a few more press ups, do a few more lovely, lovely,
- 35:30Speaker 1: I'll get on with the rest of my Sunday.
- 35:32Speaker 4: Yeah, that could be done like more bother Yeah yeah, yeah,
- 35:37Speaker 4: you're absolutely rased.
- 35:38Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but you don't. You don't want to because
- 35:41Speaker 1: you do it properly, you know, and properly. And it's
- 35:44Speaker 1: the other The POMO is really interesting because you've you've
- 35:48Speaker 1: been through the journey, which again when you're talking about
- 35:52Speaker 1: person to person coaching rather than sort of you know,
- 35:55Speaker 1: online or whatever, you've been through that journey and you
- 35:59Speaker 1: can show people that you've been through that journey as well,
- 36:03Speaker 1: which I think and again, they don't have to have IBD,
- 36:06Speaker 1: they don't have to have nic illness, they just have
- 36:09Speaker 1: to I guess they can just see that you have
- 36:12Speaker 1: been from like literally the beginning to where you are now.
- 36:18Speaker 1: And I think when you're talking about connecting with people,
- 36:25Speaker 1: I think that's something that's really really strong.
- 36:28Speaker 3: Do you think that as well?
- 36:30Speaker 2: One Like For me, I'm a very like I love
- 36:37Speaker 2: to communicate, you know, and I think building a rapport
- 36:41Speaker 2: with somebody like and as you said earlier, there tim
- 36:46Speaker 2: actually you know, people might think of a personal trainer
- 36:48Speaker 2: as ah do ten pushups blah blah blah and be
- 36:51Speaker 2: all like this that it's not like at all. You know,
- 36:55Speaker 2: I think you build your relationships through actually being more
- 36:59Speaker 2: empathetic to people's lifestyles. You know, as I said earlier,
- 37:03Speaker 2: people come to you for help. So there's obviously maybe
- 37:06Speaker 2: some obstacles that they need help with. The last thing
- 37:08Speaker 2: they want is you harping down their throat tell them that,
- 37:13Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like making making them feel
- 37:16Speaker 2: bloody worse. There's ways and means around it. And the
- 37:20Speaker 2: way I've seen the trend with my own clients is incredible,
- 37:26Speaker 2: is incredible. And the feet like, I always ask them
- 37:29Speaker 2: for feedback because I take it really seriously, and just
- 37:35Speaker 2: the words they say are just so lovely, like so lovely,
- 37:38Speaker 2: and I know I know, and I know it's coming
- 37:41Speaker 2: from a place of what they mean. You know, they're
- 37:43Speaker 2: always excited on a Sunday to get there to see
- 37:47Speaker 2: what's on their plans for the week, and that's nice.
- 37:50Speaker 2: I love that energy. I'm all about energy, you know,
- 37:52Speaker 2: and keeping them motivated. And it keeps me in check too.
- 37:58Speaker 2: You know.
- 37:59Speaker 1: That's you're improving as well, aren't you. You know, obviously
- 38:02Speaker 1: you've got your own fitness to do as well, but
- 38:05Speaker 1: you're you're still in the very sort of embryonic stages
- 38:09Speaker 1: of coaching, so it's very you know, you're still learning,
- 38:13Speaker 1: you're still improving, you're still wanting to And I love
- 38:17Speaker 1: the fact you want feedback as well, because that can
- 38:20Speaker 1: be I know a lot of coaches who don't want
- 38:22Speaker 1: a lot of feedback and they just do the session
- 38:24Speaker 1: and they just kind of they go, oh, that'll do,
- 38:26Speaker 1: you know, and I think they're worried.
- 38:29Speaker 2: Why don't they want feedback? You know what I mean?
- 38:31Speaker 2: Because they know and theyve are conscious that they're just
- 38:34Speaker 2: whacking out plans and it won't probably look great, you know,
- 38:38Speaker 2: so they don't want that feedback. Whereas, yeah, I like
- 38:44Speaker 2: coms doing things and it's just me, you know, it's
- 38:47Speaker 2: just naturally how I am. Again, it's not a sales
- 38:51Speaker 2: I'm not a salesperson. I'm I'm not all about the
- 38:55Speaker 2: quantity or the quantity ever. That's what anything in my
- 38:59Speaker 2: life act, not just particularly this, it's just it's just
- 39:03Speaker 2: the type of person.
- 39:04Speaker 1: I am yea, and that that will shine through and
- 39:08Speaker 1: your coaching as well. Yeah, the best are the people
- 39:12Speaker 1: who are authentic to themselves. So you aren't then changing
- 39:17Speaker 1: into being something that you know, if you're not a
- 39:19Speaker 1: very shouty person and then you become a shouty person
- 39:22Speaker 1: when you coach. It's not going to translate. No, not
- 39:27Speaker 1: at all, not at all, no, no, no, But it
- 39:31Speaker 1: sounds it sounds fantastic.
- 39:33Speaker 3: Well you do it.
- 39:34Speaker 1: It sounds brilliant. It looks as I've seen, you know,
- 39:37Speaker 1: bits and pieces on on Instagram as well, and you
- 39:40Speaker 1: have little things from clients. They'll put up stories that
- 39:43Speaker 1: you share and all of this stuff and they swell
- 39:45Speaker 1: to be Yeah, well I.
- 39:47Speaker 2: Love that, you know. Like one of my claims, like
- 39:51Speaker 2: starts her date and she lives such a busy lifestyle
- 39:54Speaker 2: every morning though she's out on that walk getting her
- 39:58Speaker 2: little start with her steps where her jobs, like my
- 40:02Speaker 2: dog is like love and her dog won't evenly won't
- 40:04Speaker 2: even leave her lay in bed anymore. She's like, I
- 40:06Speaker 2: have no choice. The dog is getting me up now
- 40:09Speaker 2: I might. That's amazing, you know, and I love to
- 40:14Speaker 2: see it. I love to see them excited to share
- 40:17Speaker 2: those things for themselves.
- 40:19Speaker 1: You know.
- 40:20Speaker 2: Yeah, it's lovely.
- 40:22Speaker 1: Absolutely, Like you said, it's daily, daily habitual changes, isn't it.
- 40:26Speaker 1: It's not just I'm going because I have to or
- 40:29Speaker 1: exactly and.
- 40:30Speaker 2: Like just to you know, very quickly speak on the
- 40:33Speaker 2: nutrition side as well, like I'm a very plain leader myself,
- 40:38Speaker 2: so I have to change a lot of my own nutrition.
- 40:42Speaker 2: But there is ways and means around everything. So one
- 40:48Speaker 2: of my clients really really struggled for her nutrition, and
- 40:54Speaker 2: she was like, you're I don't know if you're going
- 40:56Speaker 2: to be able to like put up with me because
- 40:59Speaker 2: I'm hard work with the whole food thing. And I'm like, honestly,
- 41:03Speaker 2: send me over what you eat and what you absolutely
- 41:07Speaker 2: won't eat, and you create some guidance. I'm not a nutritionist,
- 41:12Speaker 2: I'm not telling you eat this. You create some guidance.
- 41:17Speaker 2: And now she's like, she's not one hundred percent there,
- 41:24Speaker 2: but she's eighty, Like she's bloody seventy percent there versus
- 41:28Speaker 2: being absolutely awful. Her sleep has improved, her energy is improved,
- 41:33Speaker 2: she's she's buzzing. And again, it's just like nobody expects
- 41:39Speaker 2: you to eat, to go from like eating whatever you
- 41:44Speaker 2: like to eating like bloody celery sticks. I'm definitely not
- 41:49Speaker 2: that coat, and there's ways and means around it. And
- 41:53Speaker 2: I know myself, I'm just being a really fussy plane
- 41:55Speaker 2: either and having a gut issue that like protein and
- 41:59Speaker 2: Mark was going to be absolutely his. It's just working
- 42:02Speaker 2: on what you have and thinking about how you can
- 42:06Speaker 2: make it work. You know, so nothing as nothing, as
- 42:09Speaker 2: ever not achievable. Are the words I like to use.
- 42:15Speaker 2: Is everything is bigger? Rosabal? Is it a word in
- 42:20Speaker 2: the dictionary?
- 42:21Speaker 3: I love that is now. I loved you absolutely.
- 42:28Speaker 1: What has been so great to catch up with you again,
- 42:32Speaker 1: and I'm sure we'll catch up again, you know, in
- 42:33Speaker 1: a few mounts of time.
- 42:35Speaker 3: Absolutely see how you get.
- 42:37Speaker 2: My crazy brain takes me next.
- 42:39Speaker 1: Absolutely I had and it's it's it's so cool to
- 42:43Speaker 1: see this as well, having sort of followed this for
- 42:46Speaker 1: the last year and whatever whenever he first came on,
- 42:49Speaker 1: and it's just been so cool to see that transformation
- 42:53Speaker 1: from you know, starting starting this coaching journey to where
- 42:58Speaker 1: you are now and where you'll end up being.
- 43:01Speaker 2: On and still early days, you know, And I'm just
- 43:04Speaker 2: soaking it all in and I'm just absolutely loving every
- 43:09Speaker 2: single minute of it, like it's exactly what I'd envisioned
- 43:12Speaker 2: it to feel like. So I'm glad it's kind of
- 43:15Speaker 2: worked out that way, you know.
- 43:17Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, I hope it. I really hope it continues
- 43:20Speaker 1: and can't wait to see you.
- 43:22Speaker 2: I always appreciate your support.
- 43:24Speaker 1: I'm always always, always as well.
- 43:29Speaker 2: This podcast the online support is about, isn't it?
- 43:33Speaker 3: Absolutely?
- 43:34Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 43:35Speaker 3: So where can people keep up to date with you?
- 43:39Speaker 2: So you can always message me? I'm always at my
- 43:43Speaker 2: IBD pages. There's so much on my beliefage actually taking
- 43:46Speaker 2: your way back probably when but you've probably just scrolled miles.
- 43:51Speaker 2: But and I'll be showcasing more on the whole fitness
- 43:56Speaker 2: sage and my own team and things like that as well.
- 43:59Speaker 2: But oh my god, trying to think off the shop
- 44:02Speaker 2: of my head whilst my ABD.
- 44:03Speaker 3: Page it's IBD Laura Fit.
- 44:07Speaker 2: Is it? IBD Laura fit in what which arger? I
- 44:11Speaker 2: actually don't know? How terrible is that?
- 44:15Speaker 3: IBD dot Laura dot fit. I got it right there.
- 44:18Speaker 2: We go, IBD dot Laura Duff it. Yeah, and I mean,
- 44:24Speaker 2: my dms are always open, I'm always chatting to so
- 44:28Speaker 2: many lovely people.
- 44:29Speaker 3: So yeah, sweet, well, excellent.
- 44:32Speaker 1: Well, I wish you the very very best with everything,
- 44:36Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm sure we'll catch up soon.
- 44:40Speaker 2: We definitely will.
- 44:45Speaker 1: Thank you for listening and being part of this growing community.
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