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- 0:01Today on the podcast, we're going to be talking to Nigerians
- 0:05who are in the tech space. You know, you work with a
- 0:07startup or whatever and you're trying to sell tech solutions
- 0:11and you are having difficulties in hooking up demos or hooking
- 0:16up meetings. So that's what we're going to be
- 0:18looking at today. Now, these are the sorts of
- 0:23things you like to listen to. Then this podcast is your jam
- 0:26because this is what I do, you know, 2-3 times a week.
- 0:30And I've been doing this for a while, let's say about five
- 0:32years at least as at the date of this recording.
- 0:36My name is Tavishima Ayede, I'm the host of the podcast.
- 0:38And if you'd love to connect, you can call, send me a text
- 0:41message or a WhatsApp message on 08064662140.
- 0:49So again, we are talking to people who are in the tech space
- 0:53or you're trying to sell some fancy tech solutions.
- 0:56You're having a problem securing meetings, you're having a
- 0:59problem, you know, securing, getting people to come for your
- 1:03demo. And the demo is just that
- 1:07meeting where you get to show the potential customer what your
- 1:11solution is, how it works, how it can help them, you know,
- 1:15things like that. So that has become kind of like
- 1:18the modern playbook for selling tech solutions, selling
- 1:23software, things like that. So for those of you who are not
- 1:27in the text page, you should keep listening.
- 1:29Of course you can, because it doesn't matter what we talk
- 1:31about over here, you'll always find that there are some
- 1:34transferable skills and there are some things that you can
- 1:36listen to and that you can listen to and you can learn some
- 1:40stuff that will apply, you know, in your own business or whatever
- 1:44it is that you sell. So why are we tackling this
- 1:47today? It's very simple.
- 1:49I was going through some of my old notes, some of my very old
- 1:51notes, and I realised that I had an interesting conversation with
- 1:54a podcast listener. Her name is Neca.
- 1:57Nobody use the full name but Neca, if you're listening, yeah,
- 1:59it's you. Nobody use your surname, but to
- 2:02give you some privacy. So Neca was in the tech space
- 2:07and she was selling some fancy HR solutions.
- 2:11In fact, that was the problem. So, but anyway, let me, yeah,
- 2:14let me talk about that. She was selling HR solutions,
- 2:19right? The software that helps to offer
- 2:23customer care support. And so I started talking with
- 2:25her now to try and figure out exactly what the tech solution
- 2:30could solve. And these were some of the
- 2:32problems that it could solve. The software supposedly could
- 2:35help you resolve customer disputes.
- 2:38It could also help you gauge customer satisfaction.
- 2:41It could also help you with tracking, you know, customer
- 2:46follow up procedures. Let's see what else Plenty,
- 2:51plenty things are and that was a problem.
- 2:54And some of you in the text space, you don't realise that
- 2:55that's a problem in the beginning when you're brand new.
- 2:58It really doesn't help if your software has a laundry list of
- 3:01solutions and your software can do 50 things from a sales
- 3:05perspective, you hire somebody to now sell on your behalf.
- 3:10Like you know how, how, how do you want the guy to do it?
- 3:17It's 15 things that the person has to remember at every single
- 3:20any given point in time, you know, narrow it down.
- 3:25Like what are the core problems that this your software can, can
- 3:28fix? If the salesperson just has to
- 3:31manage two or three things as part of your UVP, that's your
- 3:35unique value proposition. Then that's an easier sales
- 3:37conversation to have because I'm only juggling two or three
- 3:41things in my head on every single call.
- 3:43But then if you're selling a software, some superstar
- 3:45software, customer care support, it can do it.
- 3:49Customer disputes, it can help you, customer satisfaction, it
- 3:52can help you. Customer follow up procedures,
- 3:54it can help you. Introducing customers to new
- 3:56orders, it can help you. That's that's a bit much.
- 4:01So those of you in the start up space, Nigerian entrepreneurs, I
- 4:06know you're in love with your solution.
- 4:08I know you think your solution can solve everything under the
- 4:10sun, but the simpler you can make it, the better.
- 4:14If we can reduce it to a simple sentence, a simple statement,
- 4:18you know, one or two things Max, three things that would be the
- 4:23best, at least from the point of view of your salespeople.
- 4:28Sometimes one of the difficulties that your
- 4:29salespeople are having is, you know, it's just to be much.
- 4:32Your solution does everything under the sun and it is hard to
- 4:37sell, you know, omnibus solutions when you're having a
- 4:40conversation with someone. So that was one problem.
- 4:44So my recommendation for those of you in the tech space in
- 4:47Niger, please, you guys take note.
- 4:49Make your job easier. So Neca, now part of the sales
- 4:54team, she was having 30 calls per day.
- 4:57You know, I like that. Impressive.
- 4:59And the problem was that out of 30 calls, she's only able to
- 5:02convince average person. So I say average person convince
- 5:07her one person. So on average, NECA is doing
- 5:10about four for appointments per week.
- 5:14So I repeat, NECA can bang out roughly like 30 calls every day.
- 5:19Well, on average, I was just like one person, you know?
- 5:21Of course, that means on some days she's hitting zero.
- 5:24Because when we look at the figures now, her average per
- 5:27week is she's booking 4 meetings.
- 5:29And of course, she was wondering what am I doing wrong?
- 5:33How can I be more effective? Because you're making 30 calls,
- 5:37you book zero meeting. Man, that's harsh.
- 5:40You know, after a while, the thing that even starts degrading
- 5:41her self esteem, like, ha, ha, no, Be me again.
- 5:45Am I not the daughter of my father?
- 5:48No. Be phone call.
- 5:50Come on. Phone call.
- 5:52So yeah, she was wondering how can she get more effective?
- 5:57So I asked her one question and I said, OK, when you're on the
- 6:00phone with people, what's the goal?
- 6:02And she said that simple. Now the goal is to book a
- 6:04virtual demo. And I have to stop out there and
- 6:07say, NECA, hold up, Stop there. That is the first mistake you're
- 6:12making. You say, how is that what they
- 6:14pay me for, to book virtual demos?
- 6:18Yeah, that's what your guy told you.
- 6:19But honestly, yeah, from a traditional sales perspective,
- 6:24when you hop on the phone with somebody the first time, the
- 6:27goal is not book them on demo or get that meeting.
- 6:31The goal is figure out if they're interested in the first
- 6:34place and then figure out the nature of the problem first.
- 6:39And then she understood If you're only having a
- 6:42conversation with somebody who is interested and who has a
- 6:45serious problem, then you can have fruitful conversations
- 6:49where you're not trying to strong arm somebody into a
- 6:52meeting. There are some people that
- 6:54clearly you will see that the interest is not here or there's
- 6:58a problem here. But honestly, there are human
- 7:00resources problems is not that much big of a deal.
- 7:03That kind of person. You thank them for the time, ask
- 7:06for permission so that you can leave.
- 7:09You can put them in e-mail list and let them be receiving emails
- 7:13from you once in a while. You know, every once in a week
- 7:16or every two, two weeks, they will receive emails from your
- 7:18business. You know, our business is doing
- 7:21good. We are Nigeria's premier human
- 7:24resources. Something, something, something.
- 7:26If you have problems with human resources in your business, this
- 7:29is how software can help. You know, every two, two months,
- 7:33every one month, they're receiving those kind of emails.
- 7:35You know, you stay top of mind. Maybe one day they actually do
- 7:40have a need and they remember that, oh, NECA called me six
- 7:43months ago. I've been receiving the emails.
- 7:45You know, let me reply to the e-mail or let me check if I have
- 7:48Neca's phone number. Let me buzz them back.
- 7:51So that's what you do if somebody is not interested or
- 7:54the nature of the problem is little, it's not that big.
- 7:58So I was able to get her to twist her, change her mindset,
- 8:01that, look, the goal is not OK, I have somebody on the phone or
- 8:03I'll go for the demo, go for the demo, go for the meeting.
- 8:06Go for the meeting. No.
- 8:08And that's the reason why some people will not show up.
- 8:09They'll say, OK, yeah, sure. They will agree.
- 8:12Then they will click on the meeting link.
- 8:13They will agree. But they're just trying to be
- 8:15polite. They don't, you know, you're
- 8:17you're, you know, persistent, articulate, obviously an
- 8:20intelligent young lady. They don't want to shut you
- 8:23down. So they'll say yes.
- 8:25Now when the phone call is over, will they shop for the meeting?
- 8:27No, because they were never interested in the first place.
- 8:30So those of you in tech sales, stop trying to strong arm people
- 8:33into a meeting. I know what your guy told you,
- 8:36that the goal is to book demos, but I'm telling you, yeah, save
- 8:41yourself some headache. The goal actually is to figure
- 8:43out who is interested and what's the nature of the problem.
- 8:47There's not everybody you must try to get to go for that
- 8:50meeting. There are some people that the
- 8:52best thing to do actually is, you know, thank you very much
- 8:55for your time. I hope you don't mind if I add
- 8:56you to the e-mail list. That simple.
- 8:59Then the e-mail campaign is going to be doing relationship
- 9:03nurturing. You put them in a relationship
- 9:05nurturing sequence, a sequence to stay top of mind.
- 9:09That's the best you can do. Then only engage with people who
- 9:12have a serious problem. And then she said, ah, well, she
- 9:18does that. Her stats will suffer.
- 9:20And I say, yeah, actually it will suffer.
- 9:23It will, will, will, will suffer.
- 9:26But The thing is when you book a meeting, your sales people, your
- 9:31sales team, because the structure that they have with
- 9:34their companies is twofold. They have, you know, business
- 9:37development reps and then account account managers or
- 9:41closers. So you know people like her who
- 9:44are on the phone to try and set up the meeting, then somebody
- 9:48else is that job you try and get the person to buy the product,
- 9:52to buy the software or pay the subscription.
- 9:57But I told her if you take this approach, even though your stats
- 9:59will suffer, you'll not be putting up impressive phone
- 10:04numbers. All I put is OK, I don't know
- 10:11how to explain it. Anyway, it will mess with your
- 10:13start with your stats, your daily records, the number,
- 10:16number of customers, the number of conversations that you record
- 10:21because you'll be spending more time, you know, per person.
- 10:24But The thing is, when you book a meeting now, it will be a high
- 10:27quality meeting and your account, your account officer,
- 10:33the person who is responsible for closing the deals, they'll
- 10:37be happy working with you because right now you're booking
- 10:404 per week. And out of that four per week,
- 10:44only two people have forgot that only two people are showing up.
- 10:47So she's calling 30 people a day, averaging booking 4
- 10:51meetings per week, but then only two people show up.
- 10:54So even if now it is still four people that show up or two
- 10:57people that show up, it will be a good quality meeting because
- 11:02of the two people who show up. We didn't have the stats for how
- 11:05many people actually go ahead and buy the software.
- 11:09So remember, when you're on the call with someone for the first
- 11:12time, the goal is not, you know, by force, by force.
- 11:15Get them for that meeting. Get them for the virtual demo of
- 11:18your product or service. The goal is figure out if
- 11:21they're interested and what is the nature of the problem.
- 11:24So call and introduce yourself. My name is Ineka for so, so, so
- 11:28and so solutions. The reason why I'm calling or I
- 11:32got your phone number from, you know, you have to give that
- 11:34background context. Maybe you talk a bit about, you
- 11:39know, your solutions. In fact, for me, if you're
- 11:42talking about your solution at this stage, you're talking too
- 11:44much for me. Once you call and introduce
- 11:47yourself, start with the problem statement and then ask
- 11:51questions. So hello, my name is Ineka
- 11:54Solutions. The reason why I'm calling or
- 11:58how I got your contact number is, you know, blah, blah, blah,
- 12:00blah, blah. I'm assuming that in your
- 12:02business, you currently have some issues with customer
- 12:06support that you struggle with at the moment.
- 12:11Yeah. Is that correct?
- 12:13Some people say, oh, no, we don't have any human resource
- 12:14problems. You say, oh, really?
- 12:17OK, congratulations. I'm glad to hear that.
- 12:20That's really rare because most people that we talk to, you
- 12:23know, that usually have problems with customer disputes or
- 12:26they're trying to figure out a way if their customers are
- 12:28happy. So are you facing those sorts of
- 12:30problems at all? They say, well, you know,
- 12:33actually, yes, I would like to know if my customers are happy
- 12:36with our product or service. Once somebody says something
- 12:40like that, good, you keep on asking your questions.
- 12:43That is your aim now to now try and figure out how the
- 12:45interested they are. That's the angle that you will
- 12:48now use to say, well, you know what, our product, we've been
- 12:53able to use our product with, you know, 20% of our customers
- 12:57or whatever, whatever. I want to be able to help them
- 12:59achieve, you know, greater customer satisfaction rates.
- 13:04Would you like to have a meeting with one of my associates so
- 13:06that we can see whether our software will be able to help
- 13:09you in the business? So, oh, yeah, yeah, I would like
- 13:11that. Then you book a meeting.
- 13:15So Carl, the goal is, are they interested?
- 13:19What's the nature of the problem?
- 13:20Have a problem statement. Problem statements are built
- 13:26around your UVP, your unique value proposition.
- 13:28Reading value proposition just means what are the results that
- 13:31you give people or why do people do business with you?
- 13:34So you can start a conversation that way.
- 13:35Hello, my name is NECA from so so so and so Tech Solutions PLC
- 13:40or limited or whatever the reason I got your phone number
- 13:45from blah blah blah. The reason why I'm calling is
- 13:49because we help businesses, you know, solve their customer care
- 13:54or customer service problems. Do you have any, do you happen
- 14:00to have any customer service problems that you're struggling
- 14:02with at the moment? Sorry, I'm just freestyling now.
- 14:05That's why I'm not sounding very, very articulate.
- 14:08But you can sit down and come up with a problem statements that
- 14:10you can use to start open to, to start the conversation.
- 14:16Then the use cases that we came up with, you know, remember
- 14:20customer care support, the software does it.
- 14:22Customer dispute the software does it.
- 14:25Customer satisfaction, the software does it.
- 14:27Customer follow up procedures, the customers, the software does
- 14:30it. You see some of the difficulties
- 14:32now, like if you're a salesperson and you're talking
- 14:35to somebody, you're now trying to juggle that.
- 14:37Of all these five possible solutions, which one should I be
- 14:42leaning in on? That's why I'm saying you will
- 14:43help your sales people. If you just narrow this thing
- 14:45down two or three, it would be a lot easier to handle the
- 14:48conversation. So that's it.
- 14:54Call introduce yourself briefly. Don't start giving them history.
- 14:59We're the greatest, we're the best.
- 15:01Our founder Something, something, our software, this
- 15:03that. Call, introduce yourself the
- 15:07next thing. Problem statement.
- 15:09Do they have the problem? How bad is the problem?
- 15:12Oh, it's not that much of a big deal.
- 15:14You move them into relationship nurturing sequence.
- 15:17Thank you very much for your time.
- 15:18I hope you don't mind if we put you to our e-mail list.
- 15:22If we do that every week, every two, two weeks, every month,
- 15:27you'll be able to get updates about, you know, tips and tricks
- 15:32about how Nigerian businesses or modern businesses are solving
- 15:36customer service challenges. Don't worry, we won't e-mail you
- 15:42too many times and the emails that we send will be valuable.
- 15:45I can assure you they have your permission to put you on the
- 15:48list. Some people will say yes, some
- 15:50people will say no. We would say no, no problem,
- 15:52don't send them e-mail because if you do, you'll be hurting
- 15:55your e-mail deliverability. If you send them e-mail and they
- 15:59see it, they will click spam. Once they click on spam, Google
- 16:05will now see that OK, people don't like receiving this
- 16:09e-mail, and then they'll start moving you to promotions folder
- 16:14when you get into other people's inboxes.
- 16:16And that is what we're trying to avoid.
- 16:18So if somebody says no, don't add me to your e-mail list,
- 16:20please, please, and please do not add them.
- 16:26When we're young, back in the day, my sister used to say
- 16:29there's many fish in the water. So as you say, tarvishing my
- 16:33don't cry that girl broke your heart.
- 16:34But don't worry, there's many fish in the water.
- 16:36It's the same in business. There's many fish in the water.
- 16:39If somebody says don't add me to your e-mail list, there are many
- 16:41fish in the water live there, you'll find somebody else,
- 16:46right? So that's it.
- 16:47That's for those of you in the text space.
- 16:50By the way, always nice talking to those of you who are coming
- 16:55up with innovative tech solutions, you know, real nice.
- 16:59You know, I get the impression that people in the tech
- 17:00ecosystem in Nigeria are trying to come up with like our own
- 17:04Silicon Valley type thing and that would really, really,
- 17:07really be good. So always like hearing from you
- 17:11guys. So even though most of the
- 17:14things that we talk about over here are so far, this year has
- 17:18been more hardcore practical, you know, like solar, fishery,
- 17:24poultry, what else? Construction, you know.
- 17:29So yeah, for this year has been mostly very concrete stuff, you
- 17:34know, but still, I'd also like to have conversations with you
- 17:37guys in the tech space as well. So that's why I leave my phone
- 17:40number at the beginning and at the end of every episode.
- 17:43So again, if you would like to connect, if you're like NECA,
- 17:46you're walking in an interesting company, you're trying to bring
- 17:50innovative tech solutions to the market that you guys have some
- 17:53problems, you know, hit me up. My name is Tavishima Ayede, I'm
- 17:57the host of the podcast. The phone number is 08064662140.
- 18:05So that's it. And that's all for today.
- 18:07Thanks for your time and attention.
- 18:08I'll catch you some other time.