Latest / The Dr. Sarah Hensley Show / Episode 28, Season 2: Running on Empty: Understanding Emotional Burnout
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- 0:11Speaker 1: Welcome to the Love Dog Podcast. I'm your co host
- 0:14Speaker 1: Rayna Butcher here with our host, doctor Sarah Hensley, the owner, founder,
- 0:18Speaker 1: and CEO of the love Doc relationship coaching services. You
- 0:22Speaker 1: can find her at the lovedog dot com or on
- 0:24Speaker 1: any social media at doctor Sarah Hensley. Hey, Hey, what's
- 0:28Speaker 1: going on?
- 0:29Speaker 2: Oh? You know, getting ready to talk about emotional burnout
- 0:32Speaker 2: because I'm currently there.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we both are a little bit. Not
- 0:36Speaker 1: because of the podcast either, Guys. We love the podcast.
- 0:38Speaker 1: It's our favorite thing to do. But it's a there's
- 0:41Speaker 1: just been a lot.
- 0:42Speaker 2: There's been a lot. And I hit a deer last night,
- 0:45Speaker 2: and a wall and a wall hympathetically speaking, hpathetically, I
- 0:50Speaker 2: hit a wall. We are in the midst of cheer
- 0:53Speaker 2: competition season, and if anybody out there has a daughter
- 0:56Speaker 2: in competition cheered you just know, if you know, you know,
- 1:00Speaker 2: it is so much and it's wonderful and it's so
- 1:04Speaker 2: fun to watch my girls and watch them succeed far
- 1:09Speaker 2: more than I did when I was a cheerleader. And
- 1:12Speaker 2: it's also really cool to watch them just sort of
- 1:15Speaker 2: do what I did. You know, my daughter was at
- 1:17Speaker 2: the same competition I was at twenty five years ago exactly.
- 1:20Speaker 2: It is really cool last week, and so it's like
- 1:23Speaker 2: I remember being there. It's like, you know, Ohio, Kentucky,
- 1:26Speaker 2: Tennessee Regional, you know, UCA Regional, and it was like
- 1:31Speaker 2: just flashback, and there's something kind of yeah, very nostalgic
- 1:36Speaker 2: about that and just watching her out there and being
- 1:39Speaker 2: like I remember being on that mat. And I want
- 1:43Speaker 2: my kids to always just be better than me. And
- 1:45Speaker 2: so I never had any private lessons or you know,
- 1:48Speaker 2: I was like learning to tumble in my yard with
- 1:50Speaker 2: my friend Jill, you know, falling on my head on
- 1:53Speaker 2: the hard ground. And here my daughters go to like
- 1:56Speaker 2: the best cheer gym in Lexington, and I'm blessed to
- 1:59Speaker 2: be able to send them there because I want them
- 2:02Speaker 2: to be better than me. I want them to have
- 2:04Speaker 2: opportunities that I didn't have, you know. And and it's
- 2:08Speaker 2: beautiful to watch them grow and succeed and to feel confident.
- 2:12Speaker 2: And I'm so blessed to be able to do that
- 2:14Speaker 2: for them. But the amount of energy and effort it
- 2:18Speaker 2: takes just to get them where they need to go,
- 2:21Speaker 2: you know, my older daughters doing high school cheery, doing
- 2:24Speaker 2: their own competitions. We just booked Disney National. They got
- 2:27Speaker 2: their bid to Nationals. We just booked Disney. The amount
- 2:30Speaker 2: that it costs to take our family to Disney, literally,
- 2:33Speaker 2: I almost threw up in a bucket, like when I
- 2:36Speaker 2: booked that, and I'm just like, and then my other daughter,
- 2:41Speaker 2: you know, she's got Worlds and Summit and all these
- 2:45Speaker 2: out of state things, and so I got to book
- 2:47Speaker 2: all the travel and I'm just like, how are we
- 2:49Speaker 2: going to do this?
- 2:50Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know how are.
- 2:51Speaker 2: We even doing it now? And that's just two out
- 2:54Speaker 2: of four, all.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Right, And that's on top. But that's on top of
- 2:58Speaker 1: running this business.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Running a business, coaching clients, trying to give everything I
- 3:02Speaker 2: can to every client that comes across my desk.
- 3:04Speaker 1: And creating free value for your communities.
- 3:07Speaker 2: I try to create a lot of free value, go
- 3:09Speaker 2: on lives, do free webinars, this podcast, this podcast, everything,
- 3:14Speaker 2: and just running this personal brand that is totally tied
- 3:17Speaker 2: to just my face and my performance and my energy.
- 3:21Speaker 2: And you know, we just kind of had to come
- 3:25Speaker 2: to Jesus meeting with like our strategic marketing partner where
- 3:29Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, the things we're doing are wonderful for
- 3:32Speaker 2: our community, but I've hit a wall.
- 3:35Speaker 1: I can't, I can't scream into a pillow.
- 3:38Speaker 2: I'm screaming into a pillow because every I just realized.
- 3:42Speaker 2: I realized this morning that I am never alone.
- 3:46Speaker 1: I could not imagine never ever, ever, because my alone
- 3:50Speaker 1: time is so.
- 3:51Speaker 2: Sacred alone And so it's caused this emotional burnout, which
- 3:54Speaker 2: is what this episode is about. And last night hitting
- 3:57Speaker 2: the deer was not my fault. There's nothing I could do.
- 4:00Speaker 2: We're in Kentucky, guys, it's rutting season. If people don't
- 4:03Speaker 2: know what rutting season is, it is basically where the
- 4:07Speaker 2: male deer, the bucks are. Their sex hormones are so
- 4:12Speaker 2: high because they're in mating season. They will one buck
- 4:15Speaker 2: will impregnate about forty does like during rutting season. So
- 4:23Speaker 2: and they're so overpopulated. This one ran out of a neighborhood.
- 4:28Speaker 2: It ran I was. I was driving, not in a
- 4:30Speaker 2: wooded area, I was driving past the neighborhood.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Well, I had a buck in my backyard a couple
- 4:35Speaker 1: of years ago, and I live in a very very
- 4:37Speaker 1: like close house subdivision.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Yeah, so, so the the bucks are in emotional burnout.
- 4:46Speaker 2: Do to have another kid? But basically what happens to
- 4:50Speaker 2: these bucks is their sex hormones get so high that
- 4:53Speaker 2: it makes them crazy and it makes them if they
- 4:56Speaker 2: can't impregnate a dough, it makes them so like they
- 5:00Speaker 2: have to run. They have to run to burn off.
- 5:03Speaker 1: And that's what we feel like doing, Yeah, just running
- 5:05Speaker 1: and never stop.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to. They have to literally just sprint
- 5:10Speaker 2: so much to burn off some adrenaline, adrenaline and excess.
- 5:14Speaker 2: I don't know if it's testosterone or what they have. Sure,
- 5:17Speaker 2: being a I'm not a dear like biologist, I don't know,
- 5:22Speaker 2: but basically they have high alostolic load, all astolic load.
- 5:27Speaker 2: So that's why I want to talk about today, which
- 5:30Speaker 2: is just emotional burnout. And I have some notes on
- 5:32Speaker 2: my phone because I'm not at the point where I
- 5:35Speaker 2: can have it all in my head right now. So
- 5:38Speaker 2: essentially we talk about just stress overload. And it's not
- 5:44Speaker 2: just that everything you're doing is stressful per se, but
- 5:48Speaker 2: it's having to have your attention and energy on something,
- 5:53Speaker 2: so a regulated nervous system. And Dana Dozzie talks a
- 5:56Speaker 2: lot about that, and we love to reference Dana Dozzie.
- 5:58Speaker 2: She was a guest on this podcast. She's great at
- 6:01Speaker 2: every video she puts out, I just like hang on
- 6:04Speaker 2: it because I'm like, my gosh, you are so right
- 6:08Speaker 2: and intelligent, and the way that she breaks things down
- 6:11Speaker 2: is beautiful, and it's all from the science. It's all
- 6:14Speaker 2: things that I've learned as well, and some things I
- 6:17Speaker 2: haven't learned, some new things She's taught me some new things.
- 6:20Speaker 2: So allostatic load is the amount of energy and effort
- 6:26Speaker 2: that we have to put out, and it's the amount
- 6:29Speaker 2: of stress resources that we have to accommodate that. So,
- 6:35Speaker 2: if you think of your nervous system, there's two analogies
- 6:39Speaker 2: that are very highly prevalent in the literature. There's the
- 6:42Speaker 2: muscle analogy and then there's the gas tank analogy. So
- 6:45Speaker 2: if you use the gas tank analogy, and they're beautifully parallel,
- 6:49Speaker 2: it's like some of us have very small gas tanks,
- 6:53Speaker 2: some of us have very big gas tanks, and when
- 6:56Speaker 2: we work on our nervous system, we grow the size
- 6:58Speaker 2: of our gas tank. And so what I teach people
- 7:01Speaker 2: to do is to grow the size of their gas tank.
- 7:04Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter how big your gas tank is,
- 7:07Speaker 2: if what is siphoning gas from that gas tank ultimately
- 7:11Speaker 2: is going to end up depleting it. Right, So the
- 7:13Speaker 2: mileage you have to burn it's directly proportional to how
- 7:19Speaker 2: much gas you have before you run out. And so
- 7:22Speaker 2: if you have to drive one thousand miles, but your
- 7:24Speaker 2: tank is only big enough for two hundred miles, like
- 7:27Speaker 2: you're going to burn out at two hundred miles, right,
- 7:30Speaker 2: And so I have a very big gas tank. I've
- 7:32Speaker 2: created that for myself for the work that I have done.
- 7:36Speaker 2: But now the amount of mileage I have to drive
- 7:39Speaker 2: is now exceeding my gas tank. So what I've noticed
- 7:43Speaker 2: is that I have to regulate more often. I'm required
- 7:46Speaker 2: to use my tools more than I was having to
- 7:48Speaker 2: use them. And two, when I use them, they are
- 7:52Speaker 2: taking longer to refill my gas tank than before. And
- 7:57Speaker 2: so those were my signals. And I'm feeling it in
- 7:59Speaker 2: my body, and I'm feeling it emotionally. And how do
- 8:04Speaker 2: I feel it. I feel it in physical symptoms. I
- 8:07Speaker 2: feel it in more thoughts that are like negative and
- 8:13Speaker 2: sort of fed up. I've noticed it in moving through
- 8:19Speaker 2: life in a way where I'm not as present as
- 8:21Speaker 2: I was. That's a really regulated nervous system. And this
- 8:26Speaker 2: is how you can tell people. Always ask me, how
- 8:28Speaker 2: do you tell if you're regulated or not. Here's how
- 8:31Speaker 2: you tell. A regulated nervous system moves through the world
- 8:35Speaker 2: slowly and connected to the present and fully connected to
- 8:40Speaker 2: your body. So being connected to your body means you're
- 8:43Speaker 2: connected to the present. Because being connected to the body
- 8:46Speaker 2: means you're noticing your senses right and so what you
- 8:50Speaker 2: notice your sense is in the present. So the colors
- 8:56Speaker 2: feel alive. You know, you can feel the way this
- 9:00Speaker 2: chair feels underneath your body right now. You notice noises
- 9:04Speaker 2: in the background. You're mindful of your words and your tone.
- 9:10Speaker 2: You are really absorbing what someone else is telling you.
- 9:15Speaker 2: And so for a lot of my clients who are
- 9:18Speaker 2: very chronically dysregulated and emotionally burnt out over their relationships,
- 9:24Speaker 2: they are very much struggling to learn tools and use tools.
- 9:29Speaker 2: So a large part of what I have to do
- 9:30Speaker 2: with my clients is give them ways to be reg
- 9:36Speaker 2: and that's why the group is so good. And that's
- 9:38Speaker 2: what people don't realize that therapy and sort of like
- 9:41Speaker 2: a one on one situation can actually be way more
- 9:45Speaker 2: dysregulating for you, and that inhibits your ability to absorb
- 9:50Speaker 2: what you're learning, and it just becomes a space where
- 9:53Speaker 2: you feel soothed by the therapist in the moment, but
- 9:57Speaker 2: then the minute you walk out of there, you're right
- 9:59Speaker 2: back into the dysregulated state because you're not actually building
- 10:02Speaker 2: your bigger gas tank, which is building your capacity. And
- 10:07Speaker 2: so people come to me so often. I've been in
- 10:11Speaker 2: therapy for fifteen years. Why am I in such a
- 10:14Speaker 2: mess with my relationship? How did I get here? Nearly
- 10:19Speaker 2: the majority of my clients, by when they land at
- 10:22Speaker 2: my desk, have been in therapy. And I know it
- 10:24Speaker 2: sounds like I'm just knocking therapy, but I think we
- 10:28Speaker 2: have to start realizing that therapy is not giving people
- 10:33Speaker 2: what they need anymore. One I used to I ran
- 10:38Speaker 2: a program for training clinical psychologists. I was the program
- 10:43Speaker 2: director of PSIDPHD. I had so I was like operations, right,
- 10:48Speaker 2: I had my hand and everything I do what you
- 10:50Speaker 2: do for the love dog. I was operations. I was
- 10:54Speaker 2: teaching classes. I was making sure people had access to
- 10:59Speaker 2: get good practicums, good internships. I was making sure people
- 11:04Speaker 2: got through the program with and let them know, you know,
- 11:07Speaker 2: hooked up with their advisors, so they are making sure
- 11:10Speaker 2: that they had the credits that they need, making sure
- 11:12Speaker 2: that they were tracking their practical hours, making sure they
- 11:15Speaker 2: you know, we're turning in their internship evaluations. It was
- 11:19Speaker 2: just operations. But I saw that program compared to the
- 11:25Speaker 2: PhD program I graduated from fifteen years ago. Light like
- 11:30Speaker 2: night and day. Different light and dark. Because what has
- 11:34Speaker 2: happened and we can trace it all the way up
- 11:37Speaker 2: to these accrediting bodies is we're having to triage people
- 11:42Speaker 2: because people are standing on the ledge trying to jump
- 11:45Speaker 2: off and end their life. Literally, like suicide rates are up,
- 11:49Speaker 2: especially after COVID man suicide rates in the America went
- 11:52Speaker 2: through the freaking roof drug overdoses way up, alcohol abuse
- 11:58Speaker 2: way up, way up. We're falling apart over here. And
- 12:04Speaker 2: of course these programs are like, okay, well, we need
- 12:07Speaker 2: to turn people out faster. But when you turn people
- 12:10Speaker 2: out faster and you're cutting their training, they aren't as capable.
- 12:17Speaker 2: And I don't mean to put people down that are
- 12:19Speaker 2: like in a one year master's program. Right now, the
- 12:22Speaker 2: system is broken that you could be the best therapist
- 12:26Speaker 2: that had a one year master's training ever, but that's
- 12:29Speaker 2: still not the same as somebody who went through a
- 12:30Speaker 2: three year program. It's not the same it's not the same.
- 12:34Speaker 2: You weren't exposed to as much, and so they can't
- 12:37Speaker 2: deliver as much for you. So I'm not blaming therapy
- 12:42Speaker 2: as a technique. I'm saying I've seen a system drastically
- 12:49Speaker 2: cut its ability to train people.
- 12:52Speaker 1: It's falling behind.
- 12:53Speaker 2: It's falling behind because we are getting worse. And then
- 12:57Speaker 2: if we are getting worse, we have to ask ourselves
- 12:59Speaker 2: why are we getting worse? I think there's a boatloads
- 13:03Speaker 2: of reasons why we're getting worse.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Shall we talk about them?
- 13:06Speaker 2: All? We can't the changes to the economy in the
- 13:10Speaker 2: last decade for consumption over consumption, social media. We did
- 13:17Speaker 2: an episode of the generations raising insecure children because of
- 13:22Speaker 2: the previous generation. And I hate to blame it all
- 13:25Speaker 2: on the boomers, my gosh, but they started it. The
- 13:31Speaker 2: boomers are they'll never admit it, no, but they bought
- 13:38Speaker 2: their house for like thirty thousand dollars and now they're
- 13:41Speaker 2: sitting on a half a million dollar gold mine and
- 13:43Speaker 2: they're like, we ain't doelling, and so we're we have
- 13:47Speaker 2: a population of people who can never buy a home.
- 13:50Speaker 2: We have and so it's like and then they raised
- 13:54Speaker 2: a bunch of really insecurely attached children. Sorry Boomers, you did,
- 13:57Speaker 2: and you were raised by the greatest generation who went
- 14:00Speaker 2: to the Great Depression, so maybe it's their fault. I
- 14:02Speaker 2: don't know. We can keep tracking it backwards. The bottom
- 14:05Speaker 2: line is everybody right now is freaking fried. They fried,
- 14:10Speaker 2: and if you are listening right now, I'm fried me too.
- 14:14Speaker 2: Now rainus fried, and I am lucky enough to have
- 14:19Speaker 2: done enough work to realize when I'm hitting fried. And
- 14:24Speaker 2: so my life is drastically changing. So if you are
- 14:26Speaker 2: part of our email system, you got an email saying
- 14:29Speaker 2: I'm not taking any new individual clients past December seventeenth
- 14:34Speaker 2: because I just can't do it anymore. God spoken to me.
- 14:38Speaker 2: My job is to provide as much resource for free,
- 14:41Speaker 2: because it's a mission. Not about money. It's about a mission.
- 14:47Speaker 2: So I'm going to use that time that I was
- 14:49Speaker 2: seeing one on one clients and my one on one
- 14:52Speaker 2: rates got ridiculous. They got so high, not because I'm
- 14:55Speaker 2: a greedy person, but because that's the only way I
- 14:58Speaker 2: could stop the freight train of bookings. And then I
- 15:02Speaker 2: don't feel good about that. That feels icky to charge
- 15:04Speaker 2: people that much to see me for an hour, because
- 15:06Speaker 2: there's only so much I can do in an hour.
- 15:07Speaker 1: Right, So then you were getting expectation fatigue, yes, which
- 15:10Speaker 1: is a huge Yeah.
- 15:13Speaker 2: So I went on a personal tangent here. But back
- 15:15Speaker 2: to this alostatic load. It is the proportion of your
- 15:19Speaker 2: gas tank to your mileage that you have to drive.
- 15:23Speaker 2: And everybody's mileage that they have to drive is outweighing
- 15:26Speaker 2: what their tank can give. Yeah, it's demanding more without
- 15:30Speaker 2: being able to stop and refill your gas tank. And
- 15:34Speaker 2: so we are not moving through the world in a
- 15:37Speaker 2: way that accommodates how the human nervous system was designed
- 15:42Speaker 2: to navigate the world. Again, we're designed to navigate the
- 15:48Speaker 2: world slowly and in the present and with mindfulness and
- 15:51Speaker 2: with intention and with joy. That is what a safe
- 15:55Speaker 2: nervous system can do and what it expects. And so
- 16:00Speaker 2: when we are rushing from thing to thing, and we
- 16:04Speaker 2: are stressed about bills, and we are stressed about our kids,
- 16:08Speaker 2: and when we are doing all the things, the nervous
- 16:11Speaker 2: system has to fuel you with adrenaline to do that.
- 16:16Speaker 2: What happens when we switch from ventral vaguel parasympathetic moving
- 16:21Speaker 2: through the world slowly and intentionally mode to rushing around
- 16:26Speaker 2: to get ready, rushing from here, rushing from there, making
- 16:29Speaker 2: the meal, running through the drive through, to make sure
- 16:31Speaker 2: your kids have something to eat, getting them to sports practice,
- 16:35Speaker 2: being productive at work, trying to pour into your marriage,
- 16:38Speaker 2: trying to be a secure parent, to raise a kid
- 16:40Speaker 2: that's going to have not just a successful educational journey
- 16:46Speaker 2: or sports journey, but really can be successful at their relationships,
- 16:50Speaker 2: which is going to determine their most success and happiness
- 16:54Speaker 2: in life. We're missing the boat. We're giving them the sports,
- 16:59Speaker 2: we're giving them the education, but we're so freaking stressed
- 17:03Speaker 2: out that we can't be attuned loving parents. We are
- 17:06Speaker 2: emotionally fried. I have yet to meet someone lately that
- 17:11Speaker 2: is not emotionally fried. And so my job with clients
- 17:15Speaker 2: is to help them recognize this and to help them
- 17:18Speaker 2: give them tools to build their gas tank first and foremost,
- 17:22Speaker 2: which is going to give them more mileagiest even go
- 17:24Speaker 2: on the same pace that they are right now. Building
- 17:27Speaker 2: a bigger gas tank is going to help you. But
- 17:31Speaker 2: I think it's all time for us to just start
- 17:35Speaker 2: accepting and doing less so that we can move through
- 17:39Speaker 2: the world slower. Yes, I have hit an absolute wallah,
- 17:47Speaker 2: I've sobbed more times in the last three weeks than
- 17:50Speaker 2: I have in the last year. And last year was
- 17:53Speaker 2: incredibly traumatic for me, so because of the court case
- 17:56Speaker 2: and the satanic person that wanted to ruin my life.
- 18:00Speaker 2: And that's all done, she's gone. But now I'm in
- 18:06Speaker 2: trauma rebound from that. We have a ton of people
- 18:10Speaker 2: out there that are just recovering from a divorce and
- 18:12Speaker 2: they're like, I'm out of this horrible relationship now, but
- 18:15Speaker 2: I'm like worse than I was. Yeah. I hate to
- 18:18Speaker 2: tell you, the year that you step out of trauma,
- 18:21Speaker 2: your body will finally start to feel and finally start
- 18:24Speaker 2: to push out.
- 18:25Speaker 1: You'll feel so many things that you'll feel.
- 18:27Speaker 2: So many things, and it's going to take another year
- 18:31Speaker 2: after that before you start feeling normalcy.
- 18:33Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like recovering from having a baby.
- 18:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:35Speaker 1: People think you just bounce back in six weeks. Now,
- 18:37Speaker 1: that's a two year minimum process.
- 18:39Speaker 2: Yes, before you feel normally.
- 18:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 18:43Speaker 2: And so I don't have all the answers. I can
- 18:45Speaker 2: teach people how to build a bigger gas tank, but
- 18:48Speaker 2: I think what I want people to know is it's
- 18:51Speaker 2: not just about building a bigger gas tank. You can't
- 18:54Speaker 2: just keep building a bigger and bigger and bigger and
- 18:56Speaker 2: bigger gas tank. You sort of reach a peak of
- 18:59Speaker 2: how big that that tank can be. You have to
- 19:02Speaker 2: reduce the mileage. You have to and I'm going to
- 19:07Speaker 2: have to. And so I'm making a lot of pivots,
- 19:10Speaker 2: not taking one on one clients as a pivot. But
- 19:12Speaker 2: what pivots can you make in your life? What concessions
- 19:15Speaker 2: can you make? It might not look perfect, but you
- 19:20Speaker 2: can't do all the things. People.
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- 21:32Speaker 1: that I've bought, I don't care about them anymore, and
- 21:35Speaker 1: then I have to do things crap. Yeah, it's more crap.
- 21:38Speaker 1: And then it's just to put it away. You have
- 21:40Speaker 1: to get rid of the box. You have to break
- 21:42Speaker 1: the box down, recycling bin. It's a whole process.
- 21:46Speaker 2: So what actually happens when we hit too much alistatic load,
- 21:50Speaker 2: like our our mileage exceeds our gas tank. What happens
- 21:55Speaker 2: We see prolonged cortisol production, We see adrenals that are
- 22:01Speaker 2: working way too hard and can eventually max out and fatigue.
- 22:04Speaker 2: So basically you're going to be extremely inflamed. Your immune
- 22:11Speaker 2: system is going to skew itself, and it can skeew
- 22:13Speaker 2: itself to the right or to the left. To the
- 22:15Speaker 2: right is we have too much Oh my gosh, this
- 22:22Speaker 2: is my brain fog. So we have like too much
- 22:30Speaker 2: inflammation and too much cell mediated immunity, and that arm
- 22:35Speaker 2: gets too So we see a lot of auto inflammation, okay,
- 22:39Speaker 2: or we see a skew towards more humoral side of immunity,
- 22:41Speaker 2: more B cell activity, which is going to give you
- 22:46Speaker 2: some other forms of autoimmunity. So we can have auto inflammation, autoimmunity.
- 22:53Speaker 1: We're going to look like like joint pain.
- 22:55Speaker 2: Oh gosh, it can look like a a zillion different things. Yeah,
- 23:00Speaker 2: I mean, people get lupus, people get chronic fatigue, people
- 23:04Speaker 2: get chronic epstein bar flare ups, people get just oh
- 23:11Speaker 2: my gosh, gut it mcas issues. Yeah, the chronic gut dysregulation,
- 23:17Speaker 2: we see all of the gut autoimmunity so much, we
- 23:20Speaker 2: see migraines. We see it's just too many lists.
- 23:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 23:25Speaker 2: So your immune system has this real delicate balance, and
- 23:28Speaker 2: when you overload your nervous system, the first place it
- 23:32Speaker 2: takes from is your immune system because it's the first
- 23:34Speaker 2: place it can take from without you immediately dying.
- 23:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 23:38Speaker 2: So sometimes that looks like people get sick a lot more.
- 23:43Speaker 2: But you're in a lot of trouble. When you stop
- 23:45Speaker 2: getting sick, you stop getting the colds, you stop getting
- 23:48Speaker 2: the flues. Then you start seeing real gut neurological, endocrine,
- 23:57Speaker 2: then vital organs. Vital organs are the last place it
- 24:00Speaker 2: will steal from. But we start to see like the
- 24:03Speaker 2: endothelial cells of the heart start becoming damaged. We start
- 24:07Speaker 2: to see and this is where I was. I was
- 24:08Speaker 2: at work and damage level that over dilation of vessels
- 24:13Speaker 2: in the brain. That's where my vestibular migraine came from.
- 24:16Speaker 1: This is terrifying because I haven't had a cold in
- 24:18Speaker 1: like three or four years.
- 24:19Speaker 2: Yeah, if you haven't had a cold in three or
- 24:21Speaker 2: four years, you're past that. Yep. And I'm sorry sis, yeahs.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Joint pain is mass Okay, So it's at max per
- 24:32Speaker 2: How can you one build your gas tank bigger? That's
- 24:35Speaker 2: what you have to do, and that is what I
- 24:37Speaker 2: teach people to do. Ultimately, you build the biggest gas
- 24:40Speaker 2: tank you can because when you get triggered in your relationship,
- 24:44Speaker 2: that's going to take a ton of gas. That's going
- 24:46Speaker 2: to empty half your tank ye in the moment of trigger.
- 24:49Speaker 2: So you have to have half a tank left to
- 24:51Speaker 2: be able to be regulated enough to access your prefrontal cortex,
- 24:56Speaker 2: which is where your empathy and mindfulness and compassion and
- 24:58Speaker 2: openness and curiosity live right, Ye, So how do we
- 25:04Speaker 2: recover from emotional burnout? I'm here with you, folks. I'm
- 25:07Speaker 2: burnt out. I am in too much parasympathetic or sorry
- 25:12Speaker 2: sympathetic activity, not enough para sympathetic activity. I am feeling
- 25:15Speaker 2: it in my body, I am feeling it in my mind.
- 25:19Speaker 2: And I am not willing to live that way anymore
- 25:22Speaker 2: because I have known and felt safety and I am
- 25:26Speaker 2: now feeling out of the safe zone. And I'm not
- 25:30Speaker 2: gonna keep going. I'm backing way off. And that looks
- 25:33Speaker 2: like saying no, a heck of a lot more.
- 25:36Speaker 1: And no amount of money in the world is worth sacrificing.
- 25:40Speaker 2: It's not. It's not I'd rather go back. I'd go backwards.
- 25:43Speaker 2: And any day me too, I will go backwards. I
- 25:46Speaker 2: will sell things, I will do whatever it takes, because
- 25:50Speaker 2: time is more precious to me, and presence for my children,
- 25:54Speaker 2: and joy is more It's more precious to me than
- 25:58Speaker 2: all of the things. And I love what I've built,
- 26:02Speaker 2: and I'm proud of what I've built, But gosh, aren't
- 26:06Speaker 2: it There's no more of me left. There's no more
- 26:10Speaker 2: of me left, and I can only hope that, you know,
- 26:15Speaker 2: people that would be like, oh, I only want one
- 26:18Speaker 2: on one will realize that there's so much value in
- 26:21Speaker 2: the group. And we just readid the whole course. It
- 26:25Speaker 2: has a seventy page work book. It has five hours
- 26:28Speaker 2: or over five hours of learning time of learning content.
- 26:33Speaker 2: But it's also designed in a way that if you
- 26:36Speaker 2: just want to hit the high points, because that will
- 26:39Speaker 2: make you disregulated to have that much content. It's like,
- 26:42Speaker 2: here are the high points, here are the high points.
- 26:44Speaker 2: You can just do that. You can just go through
- 26:46Speaker 2: the high points, and then when you feel better and
- 26:49Speaker 2: you have more energy, then you can go deeper if
- 26:51Speaker 2: you want to. So it's kind of for everyone. The
- 26:55Speaker 2: person that wants to do all the deep dives, the
- 26:57Speaker 2: extremely anxious person that's going to listen to every minute
- 26:59Speaker 2: and read every page. Yeah, the da that's like, just
- 27:02Speaker 2: give me the high points. That's all I can handle
- 27:04Speaker 2: in my nervous system. We got you. So I'm so
- 27:08Speaker 2: proud of what we built. We built something really amazing
- 27:11Speaker 2: and it's launching. Well, it's now, it's available.
- 27:13Speaker 1: Now, it's available now. Yeah, it's available now. When this drops,
- 27:16Speaker 1: it'll be available.
- 27:17Speaker 2: And everybody that's previously bought the course or group you
- 27:20Speaker 2: automatically have access to it.
- 27:22Speaker 1: You have access to it for life, for life.
- 27:25Speaker 2: Those of you that have not yet gone through the
- 27:27Speaker 2: group program or have not yet bought the course, you're
- 27:31Speaker 2: in for a real treat because I put the best
- 27:34Speaker 2: of what I got out there, The newest, latest, greatest
- 27:36Speaker 2: science is in it. Because I'm a scientist and science
- 27:40Speaker 2: is ever evolving and I always want to make sure
- 27:42Speaker 2: I'm on top of it. And this is what this is.
- 27:46Speaker 2: Another thing that makes me mad the amount of people
- 27:49Speaker 2: out there right now that are working from the book Attached,
- 27:55Speaker 2: which is so behind. It's a good book, it was
- 27:58Speaker 2: a great book of its time. It's outdated. It's outdated.
- 28:03Speaker 2: We know forty times more now than when that book
- 28:07Speaker 2: came out.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Science changes.
- 28:08Speaker 2: The assessments for attachment are outdated. That's why I'm making
- 28:12Speaker 2: my own.
- 28:13Speaker 1: Yay, that's another project. We can't pay another projects, but
- 28:16Speaker 1: that's an exciting one.
- 28:17Speaker 2: It is an exciting project because there's things that I'm
- 28:20Speaker 2: seeing in my clinical practice that have yet to be measured,
- 28:23Speaker 2: like the DA with trauma overlay, the AP with trauma overlay.
- 28:27Speaker 2: They're probably getting miscategorized a lot as fas. Yet they
- 28:30Speaker 2: don't have the other side of their attachments, so they're
- 28:32Speaker 2: not true fas and the science is not showing that.
- 28:38Speaker 2: And I'm like, there's a gap here. What do I do?
- 28:41Speaker 2: I'm going to push myself to fill it. But I
- 28:43Speaker 2: want to be able to do those types of things,
- 28:45Speaker 2: which is why I'm decreasing one on one. But bottom
- 28:47Speaker 2: line is you have to decrease your mileage and build
- 28:51Speaker 2: a bigger gas tank. Those two things have to work
- 28:53Speaker 2: in conjunction with each other. Where your nervous system is very,
- 28:58Speaker 2: very adaptive. It's not like, oh, I had this stressful season,
- 29:02Speaker 2: the ugh, I just go back into this unstressful season. No,
- 29:05Speaker 2: your nervous system learns to adapt to that stressful season,
- 29:08Speaker 2: and until you actually use tools to take it backwards
- 29:13Speaker 2: to reregulating, it will continue to burn more gas even
- 29:21Speaker 2: when you're not doing as much mileage, when you're not
- 29:26Speaker 2: you know, driving as much if you will. So you
- 29:32Speaker 2: have to actually be intentional with yourself, even if you
- 29:35Speaker 2: start saying no more, even if you cut down things
- 29:37Speaker 2: in your life. If you're not actively working on that
- 29:41Speaker 2: gas tank, it's just it's like you're driving a duly
- 29:45Speaker 2: truck that's just burning gas.
- 29:47Speaker 1: And spending time. I think for you specifically, you know,
- 29:50Speaker 1: is just the time that you do have another very
- 29:53Speaker 1: short windows of where you can spend some time alone.
- 29:58Speaker 2: If I ever am alone, it's in the morning, I
- 30:03Speaker 2: decide not to go to the gym. Maybe my husband
- 30:05Speaker 2: goes to the gym, and I just have like an
- 30:08Speaker 2: hour to just sit in bed and drink coffee.
- 30:11Speaker 1: You like a day, a whole day, yeah, right, at
- 30:14Speaker 1: least till you have to pick up your kids.
- 30:16Speaker 2: Where when is that going to happen?
- 30:17Speaker 1: I don't know, but you need to make it happen
- 30:19Speaker 1: because I just, you know, a whole day that if
- 30:23Speaker 1: I can give myself a whole day where no one
- 30:26Speaker 1: depends on me, that means like I don't have to
- 30:28Speaker 1: teach jazz or sets, I don't have to do anything
- 30:30Speaker 1: for work, I don't have to clean my house, I
- 30:32Speaker 1: don't have to cook a meal, you know, because your
- 30:34Speaker 1: life is of course a little different since I'm an
- 30:36Speaker 1: empty nester. But where there's just absolutely nothing, it really
- 30:40Speaker 1: truly recharges me.
- 30:41Speaker 2: I's the only thing I can't even imagine that I
- 30:46Speaker 2: don't even know what that looks like.
- 30:47Speaker 1: I know you said the other day you hadn't been
- 30:48Speaker 1: alone in five months.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Five months. I don't think I've had a day. I
- 30:52Speaker 2: don't think I've had a couple hours alone.
- 30:54Speaker 1: And I would so pull a forest scump and take
- 30:56Speaker 1: off frunt and never look back. Yeah, I know, I
- 30:59Speaker 1: just don't think I could do. I not at this
- 31:02Speaker 1: point in my life. Well, which I've raised a kid.
- 31:05Speaker 1: It's a little bit different. But I mean, I don't know.
- 31:08Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm gonna do. Honestly, I'm pulling
- 31:11Speaker 2: back not doing the one on ones. I'm gonna have to.
- 31:17Speaker 2: I pray that the revenue doesn't drop. I pray people
- 31:20Speaker 2: see the value in the group. Honestly, most of the
- 31:23Speaker 2: time people that are do one on one and they
- 31:26Speaker 2: go through the group, they're like, I should have done this,
- 31:28Speaker 2: I should have done just gone straight into this. Yeah,
- 31:31Speaker 2: I could have saved myself time and money because I
- 31:34Speaker 2: got everything I needed out of it. Because it is
- 31:39Speaker 2: it is everything you need. You get access to me
- 31:41Speaker 2: or coach Elizabeth, you know, depending upon which group you
- 31:45Speaker 2: sign up for mine or a little higher priced, you
- 31:48Speaker 2: get all of the stuff for life. The calls are
- 31:50Speaker 2: recorded for life, the self paced coaching programs for Life,
- 31:54Speaker 2: all the PDFs you get for Life, the workbook now
- 31:57Speaker 2: it's now into a full workbook that's easy to navigate
- 32:02Speaker 2: so you can always go back to it. And then
- 32:05Speaker 2: we have a legacy program now that you can join
- 32:08Speaker 2: where you can get to continued support after your journey
- 32:11Speaker 2: if you feel like you need it.
- 32:12Speaker 1: And that's great because you know, for less than one
- 32:14Speaker 1: hundred bucks a month, you're going to get a lesson.
- 32:18Speaker 1: Every month, you're gonna get a fifteen percent off code
- 32:20Speaker 1: that you can use for all the one on ones
- 32:22Speaker 1: with coach Elizabeth or Coach Amy. You're going to get
- 32:26Speaker 1: access to any new product launch for free. I mean
- 32:29Speaker 1: that's huge, that's huge value. And I don't want to
- 32:32Speaker 1: just be like a salesperson here.
- 32:34Speaker 2: I just want my audience to know my heart is
- 32:37Speaker 2: to give more free resources, which means more webinars, more lives,
- 32:41Speaker 2: more effort into the podcast, and that is just what's
- 32:45Speaker 2: going to have to go to do it is the
- 32:48Speaker 2: one on ones. So hopefully people aren't upset about that.
- 32:52Speaker 2: Not trying to be a salesperson here, I'm just trying
- 32:54Speaker 2: to explain to my audience wh I I.
- 32:56Speaker 1: Think they were like they scrambled.
- 32:58Speaker 2: Oh, frantically booking. Frantic bookings is what we have seen, frantic,
- 33:03Speaker 2: frantic bookings. And so that I'm not gonna lie. I
- 33:05Speaker 2: don't want to engage in spirit fear that's from the devil.
- 33:08Speaker 2: And I don't know what it's gonna look like. I
- 33:10Speaker 2: don't know what revenue is gonna look like. I don't know.
- 33:14Speaker 2: If I don't know what it'll look like, it's just
- 33:16Speaker 2: gonna be a different season and it's gonna work better
- 33:18Speaker 2: for me, and it's going to fulfill my mission.
- 33:21Speaker 1: And if we said from the very beginning, when we
- 33:26Speaker 1: you know, when I came on, it's like, when something
- 33:28Speaker 1: doesn't work, we'll just pivot. It doesn't matter what, Like
- 33:32Speaker 1: there might be an initial like gut punch that we
- 33:35Speaker 1: you know, have to be like all right, let's sit
- 33:37Speaker 1: back and let's you know, figure this out. But that's
- 33:43Speaker 1: what this is all about. It's like, it's keeping it
- 33:46Speaker 1: going and how do we do that? And it might
- 33:49Speaker 1: look different every year, right, it might look different every
- 33:52Speaker 1: six months. And this is I mean, this is the
- 33:55Speaker 1: basis of entrepreneurship. This is what it I mean, Hermos
- 34:01Speaker 1: said the other day, it's not getting started. It's in
- 34:04Speaker 1: keeping it going. That's the hard part. See you Hermos
- 34:10Speaker 1: for saying that, because even it was profound. When I
- 34:12Speaker 1: heard it, I was like, because so many people think
- 34:14Speaker 1: it's the getting started that's hard.
- 34:16Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the getting started and it's just easy part.
- 34:19Speaker 2: I really feel for people that are just burn out
- 34:22Speaker 2: on both ends. You know, maybe they're they're the nurses,
- 34:25Speaker 2: they're the dental hygienists, they're the you know, the plumbers,
- 34:29Speaker 2: they're the people that are physically grinding on their feet,
- 34:34Speaker 2: you know. I mean, at least we get to sit
- 34:36Speaker 2: in a chair.
- 34:36Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have time freedom right, like to the
- 34:40Speaker 1: point there is there's lots of freedom in the sense
- 34:43Speaker 1: of like, yes, we eat, sleep and breathe. Those guys
- 34:45Speaker 1: like I dream about work, but.
- 34:49Speaker 2: I don't I have the same ten dreams on repeat. Yeah,
- 34:51Speaker 2: And it's very clear that my subconscious has some loops
- 34:55Speaker 2: to close, and it's because of the increased stress. When
- 35:00Speaker 2: my dreams start going on repeat, that's another become very vivid.
- 35:05Speaker 2: That's there's your sign you have some some loops that
- 35:09Speaker 2: need to close, subconscious loops, and that's a sign that
- 35:13Speaker 2: my nervous system feels so stressed that it can't close
- 35:16Speaker 2: those loops, and so what can you do? I don't know.
- 35:21Speaker 2: I don't know. If I had the answer for you,
- 35:24Speaker 2: I would exchange money for time every day, every day
- 35:28Speaker 2: of the week. I'm going to look at my life.
- 35:30Speaker 2: I just ordered some of those meals from Factor because
- 35:34Speaker 2: if our kids, our kids are gone every night, Donald's
- 35:37Speaker 2: the one driving them half the time, then it's like,
- 35:40Speaker 2: what are we eating. We're going to We're doing fast food,
- 35:43Speaker 2: We're ordering a pizza, We're door dashing. So it's like,
- 35:47Speaker 2: I've got to do something. So I'm going to be trading. Yes,
- 35:50Speaker 2: it's cheaper to go to the grocery and cook, but
- 35:53Speaker 2: if it gives me more time, I'm willing to live
- 35:57Speaker 2: more meagerly. So I don't But I also know that
- 36:00Speaker 2: there are people out there that are going, yeah, right, Sarah,
- 36:03Speaker 2: I'm busting my button. We're barely getting by. There is
- 36:06Speaker 2: nowhere to cut, and I'm so All I can say
- 36:08Speaker 2: is I'm so sorry. And I don't know what the
- 36:10Speaker 2: answer is for you, other than you know, if you
- 36:15Speaker 2: can tune into some of my free resources where I
- 36:17Speaker 2: can teach you how to build a bigger gas tank.
- 36:20Speaker 2: Just listen if you you know, catch the Webinar Replay podcast. Yeah,
- 36:25Speaker 2: I mean keep tuning into this podcast.
- 36:27Speaker 1: This podcast is huge. You give out so much free
- 36:31Speaker 1: valuable tips. The emotional processing episode was huge.
- 36:38Speaker 2: Yet I don't even know.
- 36:39Speaker 1: I don't know either.
- 36:41Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think it's dropped.
- 36:43Speaker 1: Okay, okay, it might be next week. I don't know.
- 36:46Speaker 1: And guess what, I'm going to totally admit to this.
- 36:49Speaker 1: I forgot to upload the podcast this week because that's
- 36:53Speaker 1: how emotionally burnt out I am. I know, can you
- 36:55Speaker 1: do it?
- 36:56Speaker 2: Are we gonna do it? This week?
- 36:57Speaker 1: We started? I did it just it just always drop
- 37:00Speaker 1: it Monday night, so then it drops Tuesday morning.
- 37:03Speaker 2: But I'm sorry, guys.
- 37:04Speaker 1: I worked till like nine Monday night after we did
- 37:07Speaker 1: like the video shooting stuff. Then I had to go
- 37:09Speaker 1: home and do more work and then I was just
- 37:10Speaker 1: like it just completely. It did not dawn on me
- 37:13Speaker 1: that I'd forgotten to do it until yesterday.
- 37:16Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean sorry, people don't understand how big this is. Gotten.
- 37:21Speaker 2: Oh it costs, and this is really sad, but I'm
- 37:24Speaker 2: gonna be vulnerable in chair. It costs one hundred thousand
- 37:27Speaker 2: dollars to run this platform. Oh absolutely, that's the cost. Yeah,
- 37:31Speaker 2: that's the money it takes. So the pressure to bring
- 37:34Speaker 2: in more than that a month so that I can
- 37:38Speaker 2: pay all my people so we make payroll, all right,
- 37:42Speaker 2: and so that this train keeps going is.
- 37:46Speaker 1: Tough, immense, But it's a blessing. It's a blessing. It's
- 37:50Speaker 1: such a blessing because you know, you've gotten to and
- 37:52Speaker 1: we we're talking about this the other day, and I
- 37:54Speaker 1: think it's in that perspective shift that really helps too,
- 37:57Speaker 1: is like like, oh gosh, we were talking about it,
- 38:01Speaker 1: and when was this, oh the other day when we
- 38:03Speaker 1: actually did try to decompress a little bit, like just
- 38:07Speaker 1: how immensely blessed, like you've made my life and then
- 38:12Speaker 1: it's allowed, you know, Reagan's life to be blessed, my sister,
- 38:17Speaker 1: and then you know, we're bringing josh on, my husband,
- 38:20Speaker 1: who's gonna you know, it's gonna bless his life and
- 38:23Speaker 1: he's able to get out of you know, being a
- 38:26Speaker 1: police officer hopefully, and you know the dangers that come
- 38:29Speaker 1: along with that profession. Like, what a beautiful blessing to
- 38:33Speaker 1: be able to bless all these people you love? Is
- 38:36Speaker 1: there a lot of pressure because people then depend on you. Yes, yeah,
- 38:40Speaker 1: but I mean you're changing the people that are most
- 38:44Speaker 1: important to you and other people that you don't even
- 38:47Speaker 1: know their lives, their lives and you know, I mean
- 38:50Speaker 1: everybody struggles. I think maybe influencers maybe more than others
- 38:54Speaker 1: struggle with imposter syndrome. But you know, those are the
- 38:58Speaker 1: moments that you have to say, Look, at the end
- 39:00Speaker 1: of the day, I'm helping people. Yeah, I'm helping it.
- 39:04Speaker 2: Can it can hurt sometimes when I pour my heart
- 39:06Speaker 2: and soul into something and then somebody gets on there
- 39:08Speaker 2: and says another woman talking blah blah blah, like that's
- 39:15Speaker 2: not what the world needs to hear, like something like that. Yeah,
- 39:18Speaker 2: or you need to know, I mean, just be filled
- 39:19Speaker 2: with like you need to know. Job you're you know,
- 39:23Speaker 2: what makes you think you know about relationships? Like why
- 39:26Speaker 2: you know? Just whatever? Hate And at the end of
- 39:28Speaker 2: the day, I'm just like, okay, whatever, roll off, roll
- 39:31Speaker 2: off my back, keep going.
- 39:33Speaker 1: But it's another piece.
- 39:35Speaker 2: All I can say is I will help you build
- 39:37Speaker 2: a bigger gas tank. I can't make decisions for you
- 39:41Speaker 2: about how to cut back in your life to drive
- 39:43Speaker 2: less mileage. It mileage I can't even talk right now.
- 39:46Speaker 2: I'm so burnout mileage, But really that's it's It comes
- 39:52Speaker 2: down to those two things. You have to stop doing
- 39:55Speaker 2: as much, and you have to have a bigger gas
- 39:57Speaker 2: tank or else you're just regulating your nervous system. You
- 40:03Speaker 2: are being fueled by adrenaline and cortisol, and likely if
- 40:06Speaker 2: you're really maxed out, you're going into functional freeze, which
- 40:10Speaker 2: means you're in dorsal veagel shutdown and fight or flight
- 40:13Speaker 2: at the same time, which is like being in a
- 40:15Speaker 2: car and having the gas and the break pressed, which
- 40:18Speaker 2: means you're not as productive as you could be, but
- 40:20Speaker 2: you're also freaking fried and just producing adrenaline and you
- 40:24Speaker 2: probably can't sleep, and you know you're the whole world
- 40:29Speaker 2: seems like a threat. I gotta be here, I gotta
- 40:30Speaker 2: be there, I gotta do this, I got to accomplish this.
- 40:32Speaker 2: But yet you're super dissociated from your own internal world,
- 40:37Speaker 2: so you're not present with yourself.
- 40:39Speaker 1: And as women, you're not producing any oxytocin, which is
- 40:42Speaker 1: the hormone that.
- 40:43Speaker 2: The master nervous system regulator for women, as oxytocin and
- 40:46Speaker 2: dopamine kills it yep, it does, and we're all just
- 40:51Speaker 2: over here doing the best we can. So I don't
- 40:54Speaker 2: know if I have all the answers for you other
- 40:55Speaker 2: than I can help you build you a bigger gas tank. Yeah,
- 40:58Speaker 2: and I would be honored to that.
- 41:00Speaker 1: And keep listening to the podcast. It's a beautiful free
- 41:05Speaker 1: platform that is available to you.
- 41:07Speaker 2: This is a time that we got to wrap up,
- 41:10Speaker 2: unfortunately so much. I would like to get into a
- 41:12Speaker 2: lot more science of the brain and body, but I
- 41:15Speaker 2: think I would be repeating a lot of what I
- 41:17Speaker 2: talked about in the emotional Processing episode and some of
- 41:21Speaker 2: the other past episodes. But just my heart goes out
- 41:25Speaker 2: to you, all, my fried people, and I love you,
- 41:28Speaker 2: I'm thankful for you. I'mity that we live in is
- 41:32Speaker 2: it's not sustainable anymore.
- 41:33Speaker 1: We're all in this together, and it's you're not alone
- 41:36Speaker 1: and feeling just completely overwhelmed depleted. Yeah.
- 41:40Speaker 2: Just I'm going to pray for all of you tonight
- 41:42Speaker 2: and just send just all of my good vibes your way,
- 41:46Speaker 2: and just pray for God to open up a window
- 41:48Speaker 2: or a door for you to relieve some of your
- 41:51Speaker 2: alistatic load and your stress and to give you some peace,
- 41:55Speaker 2: especially going into this holiday season.
- 41:56Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I want for you, guys, praying collectively
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