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243. CALLING OUT the health industry - this may trigger some…. 😬💊🤧😹 · She Rises with Ashy & Tijana

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  Speaker 1: I'm Ashy and I'm Tiana. This podcast is about female empowerment.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to another She rises episode. A
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  Speaker 2: Monday episode. We've got a very juicy one today. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like it's going to ruffle some feathers. It's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit controversial, but that's what we do here. You
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  Speaker 2: don't just tiptoe and dance around the subjects that people
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  Speaker 2: are don't know.
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  Speaker 3: And we'd love to talk about the things that nobody
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  Speaker 3: else wants to touch.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, But before we get into that, what's your
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  Speaker 2: share of the week?
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  Speaker 3: My share of the week is actually a TV series
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  Speaker 3: that I am so hooked into it at the moment.
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  Speaker 3: It's called Outlander. Yes, there is about seven seasons to it.
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  Speaker 3: It's about time travel, it's about Scotland.
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  Speaker 1: It's incredible.
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  Speaker 3: It's about this beautiful love story as well, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: so invested in the characters.
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  Speaker 1: Highly recommend, but it's a bit traumatic as well. Some
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  Speaker 1: episodes you've told me, I'm like, there is, it's a
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  Speaker 1: little bitch ry.
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  Speaker 3: I honestly I have cried twice watching two separate episodes
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  Speaker 3: over the last three seasons because it's just so emotionally intense.
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  Speaker 3: Like if you're a sensitive girl like me, probably wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: recommend those specific episodes, but the entire storyline is very
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  Speaker 3: locked in and I honestly I want to watch it
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  Speaker 3: like in my work breaks and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so committed to it. Did love that with the
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  Speaker 2: TV show I'm watching Fire country at the moment. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what's that about? Just a fire station and all the
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  Speaker 2: characters and the different fires they go put out. But
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  Speaker 2: there's like a storyline that continues the three every season
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  Speaker 2: about this family and what they go through. And there's
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  Speaker 2: even like a bunch of young teens that are locked
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  Speaker 2: up or if you're doing the wrong thing, And the
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  Speaker 2: way they can do the jail time is by going
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  Speaker 2: and putting flyers out, so they put them on a
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  Speaker 2: specific lab and they can like earn their way out
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  Speaker 2: of jail by serving their community.
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  Speaker 1: Oh cool, so it's really cool. I really like it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah cool. My share of the.
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  Speaker 2: Week is I saved this post. It's called we Think
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  Speaker 2: Deeply is the Instagram page and it says fourteen sentences
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  Speaker 2: that gave me goosebumps. The cold water does not get
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  Speaker 2: warmer if you jump late. The version of you someone
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  Speaker 2: created in their mind is not your responsibility to maintain.
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  Speaker 1: I love that one.
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  Speaker 2: If you're worried about the cost of going for it,
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  Speaker 2: you should see the price of staying exactly where you are.
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  Speaker 1: There is a future version.
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  Speaker 2: Of you absolutely begging for you to enjoy where you're
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  Speaker 2: aut right now. Sometimes the weight is longer because the
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  Speaker 2: blessing is bigger. The only person coming to save you
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  Speaker 2: is the version of yourself that's tired of your current situation.
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  Speaker 2: If the path before you is clear, you're probably on
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  Speaker 2: someone else's. When you reach the peak, you realize the
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  Speaker 2: mountain wasn't the obstacle you were. Your ability to grow
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  Speaker 2: is directly tied to how much truth you can handle
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  Speaker 2: about yourself without trying.
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  Speaker 1: To escape it. I love that.
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  Speaker 2: It's such a fun thought that the person I end
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  Speaker 2: up with is now living the things they'll tell me
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  Speaker 2: about later.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's beautiful. So nice.
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  Speaker 2: If the rain that touches your skin traveled miles to
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  Speaker 2: find you, then so will everything else that's written in
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  Speaker 2: your name. It's okay to be sad after making the
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  Speaker 2: right decision. If you focus on the hurt, you'll continue
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  Speaker 2: to suffer. If you focus on the lesson, you'll continue
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  Speaker 2: to grow. It's this simple. When something is right for you,
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  Speaker 2: it will give you energy. That's how you know. Love
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  Speaker 2: all those I love all of those we think deeply
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  Speaker 2: is the Instagram page.
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  Speaker 1: That's really cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like everyone someone will be able to
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  Speaker 3: take something away from each of those. Yeah, relate it
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  Speaker 3: to their own personal journey.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely so beautiful. All right, where do we start.
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  Speaker 3: Let's ruffle some feathers, shall we.
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  Speaker 2: We want to talk about the health industry, especially like online.
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  Speaker 2: A big one for me is people diagnosing other people online.
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  Speaker 1: And I get this with my kids all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh have you thought it? I think Taj has got this,
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  Speaker 1: I think Tyler's got this. Have you got them tested
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  Speaker 1: for this?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you see split seconds, like maybe thirty seconds
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  Speaker 2: of me interacting with my children, and now you're diagnosing
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  Speaker 2: them with autism?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? The audacity?
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  Speaker 2: Wow, No, somebody say that all the time. Babe, adhd
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  Speaker 2: autism on the spectrum?
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  Speaker 1: Have you got them tested for this that?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, No, you don't even know the child, Like
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  Speaker 2: I'm with him twenty four seven and you're diagnosing overseeing
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  Speaker 2: him for thirty seconds.
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  Speaker 3: You know it's crazy too. It's not like you're sitting
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  Speaker 3: there going, hey, can you diagnose my son? No?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't Ben ask for your opinion on my son.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's us sharing a funny moment together or something.
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  Speaker 1: I'm listed. It's wild.
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  Speaker 2: And then the other one for me that's really popped
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  Speaker 2: up lately is us talking about peptides and I just
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  Speaker 2: answered on a Q and A. And I know I've
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  Speaker 2: spent over fifteen years, probably close to twenty years online
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  Speaker 2: sharing my life.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very very open.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone knows that, and I feel like there's this expectation
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  Speaker 2: for people with a public profile to be very open
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  Speaker 2: and transparent, so I really try to do that. I've
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  Speaker 2: shared pretty much everything that I've gone through, all my mistakes,
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  Speaker 2: all my ups and downs, everyone's seen at all, and
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  Speaker 2: that's really hard to share. But then I find nowadays
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  Speaker 2: when you share something really openly and honestly, they also
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  Speaker 2: get torn down for it. So it's like you're damned
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  Speaker 2: if you do, and you're damned if you don't. And
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  Speaker 2: for me right now talking about peptides, I answered it
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  Speaker 2: on a Q and A because someone asked if I
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  Speaker 2: use them. Yeah, I use them. I'm not a shame
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  Speaker 2: that I use them. I've done my research. It's through
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  Speaker 2: a doctor that all my blood's done. This woman has
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  Speaker 2: gone online and done this big video and now other
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  Speaker 2: people are jumping on it and using my name as
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  Speaker 2: like the person that's like a bad role model and
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't be recommending these because they're not legal and DA
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  Speaker 2: data and there's no difference between peptides and party drugs.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 2: But unfortunately, it's like, now I've just come to the
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  Speaker 2: decision where i won't be speaking about it anymore. And
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  Speaker 2: then there's another health situation which I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: even talk about, do you know about? But that really
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  Speaker 2: impacted my life that I shared something online and then
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  Speaker 2: something happened with the online world and it was a
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  Speaker 2: really hard thing for me to navigate. And I'm like, Wow,
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  Speaker 2: it sucks that there's a couple of people that want
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  Speaker 2: to ruin it for everyone else, because now I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to have boundaries as to what I do and don't
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  Speaker 2: share online.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I.
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  Speaker 2: Still get messages from people asking about peptides, even even
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  Speaker 2: this morning on the way up, and I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: so sorry, but after like my name being used in
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  Speaker 2: other videos to get traction, I'm just not going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about it anymore. They're like, oh my gosh, but
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  Speaker 2: I really would love to learn more about it. I'm like, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: they've ruined it, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And they're going to just have to do their own
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  Speaker 3: research now.
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  Speaker 2: But this would be the same type of people that
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  Speaker 2: if I wasn't honest about it. Oh, ash's not being
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  Speaker 2: transparent and hiding something. You're hiding something, you're lying. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you should be honest. You owe it to us to
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  Speaker 2: be honest. You've got a public platform, you should be
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  Speaker 2: talking about it. You've got a voice, like the same
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  Speaker 2: people would complain if you weren't honest about it. It's
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  Speaker 2: like it just drives me. That's like, no matter what
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  Speaker 2: you do, it's going to be wrong in someone's eyes.
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  Speaker 2: And you should never live your life trying to please everyone.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I spoke about it. But I'm also like,
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  Speaker 2: at the cost of what if I'm getting videos made
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  Speaker 2: about me and that's impacting my mental health because I
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  Speaker 2: don't speak nicely about you.
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  Speaker 1: I also have to go home and be a mum.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to let that my mental health
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  Speaker 2: cause from someone else impact me going home to my children.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And also as well, you don't know any anything
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  Speaker 3: to share anything online, even though you have done that
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  Speaker 3: for a really long time.
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  Speaker 1: You get to pick and choose what you do.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about, and definitely people are going to spin it
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  Speaker 3: and which people do. People online can be very committed
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  Speaker 3: to misunderstanding or anyone that they see online and whilst
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  Speaker 3: it's a good thing that people are open and free
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  Speaker 3: and all the things, like people have a very strong
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  Speaker 3: opinion when it comes to being online, they would not
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  Speaker 3: say half the things that they do if they were
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  Speaker 3: face to face with somebody that they were commenting on
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  Speaker 3: their profile and saying it in front of their face
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  Speaker 3: and not behind a profile that says like I don't
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  Speaker 3: know Sharon's kiddies, exo this twenty seven point five.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you know, it's ridiculous. It sucks because I really
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  Speaker 2: appreciate when people are really honest. I like hearing about
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  Speaker 2: people's plastic surgery journeys or their breakup that the lessons
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  Speaker 2: they've learned, or the mistakes they made in business, or
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  Speaker 2: the fucking peptides they use. I like hearing people's honest journey.
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  Speaker 2: Like I follow people that are open, honest, relatable and
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  Speaker 2: aren't just trying to paint themselves with this picture perfect person.
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  Speaker 3: You want to hear their real, raw stories, just like
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  Speaker 3: their real opinion. Yeah, I want to know what what
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  Speaker 3: do you stand for, what do you believe? And what
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  Speaker 3: have you tried, what's worked, what hasn't? Like I love
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  Speaker 3: hearing that.
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  Speaker 2: That's how I've always shown up, but now it's at
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  Speaker 2: a point where I'm like, yeah, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Not, like is it worth it? Yeah for me, it's
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  Speaker 1: not really worth it.
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  Speaker 2: But it sucks because and now I really feel like
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  Speaker 2: I have to more consciously think about what I put online.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like the world's screaming for more honesty and authenticity.
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  Speaker 2: But this is the reason why people aren't honest online
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  Speaker 2: because they know they gonna get torn down for it. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I really don't blame women, especially if you're not talking
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  Speaker 2: about their plastic surgery journeys, because I'm like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to cop a lot of hate for it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The same with peptides.
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  Speaker 2: Now, it's like, because you choose to inject a peptide, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're painted this like bad role model.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, especially even with things when it comes to health
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  Speaker 3: as well, like peptides, plastic surgery, because it's like if
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  Speaker 3: you post about it, your vaccentations, yes, all of it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like such touchy subjects and people have such strong
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  Speaker 3: opinions on each of those subjects. Yes, people are either
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  Speaker 3: really for or really against, and there's no in between.
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  Speaker 3: There's no black or white, there's no understanding, no, and
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  Speaker 3: once again.
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  Speaker 2: For me, I find that hard to understand because through
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  Speaker 2: the Big C I had friends that got vaccinated and
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  Speaker 2: I had friends that didn't get vaccinated.
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  Speaker 1: Cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, do it feels good for you? Just tell you
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  Speaker 2: what's right for your body and your belief system. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not gonna not be friends with you because you do
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  Speaker 2: or don't decide to get a vaccination. Same with friends
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  Speaker 2: with kids. You get them done. Amazing, You don't cool.
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  Speaker 1: Just don't tell me what to do. I won't tell
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  Speaker 1: you what to do.
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  Speaker 3: No way.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just I will love and accept you for
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  Speaker 2: whatever you choose to do with your life and your body,
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  Speaker 2: even if I don't agree with it, doesn't I have
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  Speaker 2: to do it, and doesn't mean I'm going to dislike
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  Speaker 2: you or make a video about you and how shit
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  Speaker 2: you are, Like, oh my god, buch of a bad
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  Speaker 2: role model you are. Even in this video She's like,
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  Speaker 2: it needs to stop that. I'm like, you know what
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  Speaker 2: needs to stop women being nasty to other women? Exactly
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  Speaker 2: what you're doing using my name to get attention. That's
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  Speaker 2: what needs to stop. You don't want to take PEP times,
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  Speaker 2: don't take them, babe. You don't have to.
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  Speaker 1: But if I choose to you don't have to make
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  Speaker 1: a video about it.
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  Speaker 3: And it's funny too, because it's the same people who
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  Speaker 3: would be looking at other people when they see other
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  Speaker 3: women bully other women, be like, oh my god, that's
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  Speaker 3: so bad, but then make videos like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I come on double standard. Hey, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot. It is a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that there are worse things in the
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  Speaker 3: world than peptides, Like, come on, like, do not compare
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  Speaker 3: peptides to party drugs.
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  Speaker 1: It's dumb.
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  Speaker 3: So it's so it's a silly comparison to make because
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  Speaker 3: it's just not the same.
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  Speaker 2: I think people making these videos haven't actually studied and
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  Speaker 2: research and toward it a peptide actually is and what
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  Speaker 2: it can do for the body. This is not a
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  Speaker 2: new thing. Yeah, it's been around for decades, very long time.
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  Speaker 2: It's just trending on social media right now.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what, I don't judge her for not
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  Speaker 3: knowing and not understanding because I think naturally, when we
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  Speaker 3: don't know something, we immediately judge, because that's like sometimes
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  Speaker 3: our natural reaction, for sure. But also before you make
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  Speaker 3: a video on social media like that and you slander
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  Speaker 3: somebody's name, do some research exactly, think about what you're
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  Speaker 3: saying before you put something out there, and like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: especially when it comes to somebody else's reputation, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think that's a fair thing. Yeah, especially around something that
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  Speaker 3: is so big like health and yeah, I just think, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's just it's not the same.
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  Speaker 2: Have an opinion. Why did you put my name in there?
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  Speaker 2: I really would love to know a whiting need to
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  Speaker 2: put my name and that couldn't you just say influencers
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  Speaker 2: too might have my name in there? Yeah, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to get traction? Yeah, it's click baity. You're
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  Speaker 2: literally using my name to get attention. Otherwise you wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: need to feel the need to do that. You're okay,
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  Speaker 2: You're going to bed at night knowing that you've tried
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  Speaker 2: to like ruin my reputation or have people come at
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  Speaker 2: me for it. Yeah, you know what it did though,
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  Speaker 2: just it's flood of my inbox with more questions about it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, there's so many people that are interested in it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but it had the opposite effect as to what she
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: obviously wanted.
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  Speaker 3: But also how cool that people are looking at different
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  Speaker 3: alternatives and things that are going to help their health
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  Speaker 3: long time. I think that's a great thing.
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  Speaker 1: I think she'd be swallowing her words in a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah, and it'll be a normalized thing.
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  Speaker 3: And whilst it's quote unquote not FDA proved, you know
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  Speaker 3: what else isn't supplements protein powder like don't come for me.
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  Speaker 1: I know, and I just I just you just do
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  Speaker 1: some research just case.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everyone each to their own. It does
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  Speaker 3: not concern anyone what anybody else is doing. So long
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  Speaker 3: as it's not directly impacting you, go.
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  Speaker 1: Live your life. Yes, go live your life.
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  Speaker 2: And it's also like a whole o Zen peak Munjaro
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  Speaker 2: and retitude tied pep tide. It's so easy for people
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  Speaker 2: to have opinions are like, oh, people inject themselves to
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  Speaker 2: lose weight, Like, you don't know what their health is.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know what they're going through, you don't know
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  Speaker 2: what they've tried. Yeah, you don't know their mental state,
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  Speaker 2: you don't know if their health is at risk for
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  Speaker 2: other things, like you can't make a judgment. And it's
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  Speaker 2: easy for someone that's not overweight to just sit on
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  Speaker 2: their high horse and say, oh, they shouldn't be doing that.
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  Speaker 2: You know nothing about their background, so just let them be.
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  Speaker 2: It's not your body, it's not your responsibility. You don't
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  Speaker 2: have to have an opinion on what they do. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: love and accept they're doing what they want to do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's their journey to go on. That's so journey to
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  Speaker 2: discover if it works, not, if it feels good for them.
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  Speaker 3: And even if somebody does decide to do something with
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  Speaker 3: their body, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Concern you exactly.
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  Speaker 3: And also it's okay if you disagree with what they're doing,
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  Speaker 3: but you don't need to voice it.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: No, exactly not.
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: There are so many other things in the world to
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: worry about in.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: Your own life, your own kids, that your own health,
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: maybe your partner friends.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: I think it's good that people are looking outside of
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: the box.
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because, like, if we're completely honest, there's a lot
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: of bullshit and a lot of noise when it comes
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: to the quote unquote health industry around the things that
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: people are taking without actually knowing what they're actually taking.
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: Like look at how many people and don't get me wrong,
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: there's a time and a place for Western medicine and
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: take this how you will twist it if you will.
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: But there's a lot of shit out there that actually
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: causes more harm than it does good. Like I spent
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: years taking antibiotics and things because I was trying to
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: put a band aid solution on deeper problems in my
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: gut my stomach and also getting infections and things like
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: that when I was younger, and it destroyed my gut,
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: destroyed my.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Gut, you knowing the price.
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: I'm still paying the price, Like I still have to
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: go get gut cleanses and do gut protocols and can't
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: have gluten now, Like my stomach is so sensitive now
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: because of all the things that I would take and
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: that I would do, just was prescribed for no good reason.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: Hey try this, Just try this, and if this doesn't work,
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: come back and you can have this one. And I'm like,
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: this is not a candy store. Stop treating it like
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: this is a vending machine full of lollies where people
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: are popping antibiotics and hills and drugs and all these
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: things and taking anxiety medication, ADHD medication, all of this stuff.
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: And again, like I said, there's a time and a
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: place for everything, and also a lot of it is
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: not necessary, like eighty percent of it is not necessary,
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: and all of it causes backlash and has multitude of
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: side effects. And then people are coming in and saying
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: that peptides are like taking party drugs. It's not in
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: the same category. It's not in the same comparison. I'm like,
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: and everybody is worried about peptides, but nobody is looking
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: at antibiotics literally, and all of the things that are
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: quote unquote FFDA proved but literally cause cancers and issues
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: and flow and effective problems in the body. I'm like,
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: riddle me that, yeah, make it make sense.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: It's the same with some Once again, I would never
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: mention names, and this is a long time ago, but
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: I know it's come up in conversations and groups too,
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Like certain health people online that are teaching about health
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: and gut health, but then they're on the bag on
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: the weekend, oh, or just getting sloshed every single weekend
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: and like go, go, you live your life or whatever.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: When you're teaching people to how to be healthy and
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: take care of their gut and take care of their
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: nervous system, and they're riddle with anxiety, but then you're
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: on the weekend doing that being that kind of example,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: it's just I don't know, it just doesn't sit well. No, yeah,
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: I feel like there are a lot of people that
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: I've heard of who do that, like the fitness in
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: a lot of industries. It's not just a fitness industry,
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: and a lot of industries where they do that, where
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: they promote health and a healthy diet and healthy clean
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: eating and all these things. But then literally are going
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: and getting shit faced taking all the different drugs.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, it just it doesn't matter us, No, it doesn't.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: No.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: So yes, it's a very controversial topic. But I think,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: like I said, I think people can have their opinions.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: You just don't need to drag people's names through the mud,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: or to attempt to drag their name through the mud
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: and do a little bit more research.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Befoor, you have that strong of opinion.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: And also as well, like anybody who disagrees with my
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: opinion on the health stuff and the things that you know,
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: antibiotics and all that sort of stuff Western medicine, you
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: could probably think the same thing about me, But me
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: having my opinion doesn't take away from what you believe,
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: and it doesn't directly impact you either.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: If you don't.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: If you don't agree, it's totally fine if you don't agree, Yeah,
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: you're allowed to have that opinion. But I'm also not
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: going to sit here and tell you what to do.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: This is what I personally believe. And if you are
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: a nurse or you're a doctor who've got a family
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: line of people who are really for Western medicine, that's great,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: but it's also not what I personally believe. Like I
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: would rather even something as little as like panador I
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: can't remember, it's been probably seven years since I've taken panadole,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to. I don't want to because
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: why would I take something that will literally damage my
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: gut when it's so sensitive already, when I can use
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: peppermine oil or use essentral oils and things that actually
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: work that are natural remedies, Like, why would I do
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: that to my body if there are other alternatives so good?
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: It makes no sense.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think there's been more education around around
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: it all. And I don't take my kids the doctors
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: often either, because it's like the moment something's wrong, it's like, oh,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: it could be this, let's just pop them on antibotics
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: and see how they go. I'm like, when you're guessing,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: you're going to give them antibiotics to hope that it
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: goes away, and I'm going to damage their gut and
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: then it could still be there. Like unless you are
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent certain and I don't think there's any
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: other options, then I think there's a time place for
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: them for sure. But I will explore everything else before
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: going down that route.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so scary. There's the same with like getting
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: bloods from a doctor, right.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Recently had to go to the doctor and just have
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: her all over, check over, and he's like, let's get
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: your blood's done. And when I get my bloods done
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: and then I get a text message it was like,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: all your bloods.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Are normal, no need to come back. I was like,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: absolutely not.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: You ask for my natural path if they're normal, and
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I'm about to get more blood done again. But I
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: can feel when things are off, whether it's like three
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: hormones or deficiencies or whatever, and a natures will literally go.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Through it in so much more detail. Yeah.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: But if I just went to the doctor and this
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: and all everything's normal, Like it's all good, but I've
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: got symptoms over here.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, or do I just put up with them? You
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: live with them like usual. Markers are fine, so you
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: should be fine.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in normal range. What does that mean? Like,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: tell me more more.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I think I like the point that you touched on
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: of like it's more of an understanding thing.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I like that you pointed that out, because even when
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: I was taking antibiotics, like, I had no idea.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was crash eighteen.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: But like any girlies who used to get frequent UTIs
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: or issues or infections and stuff from having sex, you
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: will know what that feels like. And you're probably still
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: dealing with it now. When I was fresh eighteen, I
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: had a partner that I was with for three and
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: a half years, and I got infections with him all
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: the time. I'm talking like every six weeks. I was
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: on antibiotics and I did that for like a good
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: portion of our relationship, and it just it ruined my body.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: And it's like I didn't have awareness then because like
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: my mom, you know, she didn't know, she didn't understand.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: She obviously didn't have those issues either. So yeah, the
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: lack of understanding the lack of knowledge, and yeah, the
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: damage that can be done when you don't understand what
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: it is that you're doing and putting into your body
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: can have like a lasting effect, like like what you
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: said before, Like I'm still dealing with the repercussions of
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: that now and still having to make sure that i
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: take care of my body in a way where I'm
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: not aggravating that, or you know, have to be extra
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: cautious about what I do and products that I use
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: and what sense I use, and no smells and no
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: fragrance and stuff like that on my body because I'm
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: super sensitive. It's worth being mindful of what you're putting
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: into your body, even if it comes from a doctor.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Definitely.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I remember asking a doctor when you wanted to put
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: targe on intiotics or something, and I asked him if
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: he could explain the.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Side effects of going antiotics.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, you're fine, just don't do it every
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: now and again, I'm not asking if he's fine and
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: mask just let me know, Like what are the side effects,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: what does it do to the guard, what does it
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: do to his health?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: What can it do to anything?
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh no, no, you don't have to worry
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: about that, And he wouldn't even explain to him, like
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I wonder if he even understands, wow, what it can
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: do to your gut health so much a longing Yeah,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: because he just does it all day every day.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, thank you.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: It's really dependent on the doctor too, hey.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah for sure, Like this isn't shitting on doctors.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Doctors out there and I've had brain surgery, Like I'm
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: all for western westernized medicine and surgeries, and.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: There is time and place for it, for sure. But
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: every day, if there's.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Just like symptoms that you're going to your doctor constantly
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: for like, it's just it's just asking are there other
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: options that might be more beneficial for my body short
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: term and long term? Yeah, because if you are taking
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: antiotics long term, it's going to have an impact on
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: your health, which impacts skin, hormones, sleep, moods, sex, literally
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: everything everything.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting topic.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from other people though.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: If you're watching this on Instagram or you're listening, like,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: send us a DM what experience you guys have had
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: or your opinions on it. I love having these discussions
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: to see what other people think as well.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I think it's a topic that people have very strong
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: opinions on as well, like and that's so fine. I
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: have a strong opinion on it as well. I'm definitely
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: one of those people. And it can also be one
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: of those controversial topics where it kind of hits people
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: in the right way the wrong way. And it'd be
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: interesting to see the variety of response from.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: This episode, definitely, and what triggers come up. Yeah, personally
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: based upon someone's experience, which I can understand if I
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: have compassion for as well.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well even mine. Mine is based on my experience. Yeah,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: that's why I feel so strongly about it. But if
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I hadn't had that experience, would I feel so strongly?
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Probably not, Yeah, depending on how it's raised and what
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I believe in personal values and all of those things.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: It's called when you meet a doctor that's just open
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: minded and it's not like so black or white. Yeah,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: but they can explain things, give you different options, see
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: what feels good for you, tell you the side effects.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know, there is some really good doctors that
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: can give both options, and I think it's just.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Rare and harder to find.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I do like it when I find a
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: little bit more of like a holistic doctor. Yes, it
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: was like they obviously understand and believe in science in
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: the Western medicine world, but then they're also like, oh
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: what about this approach.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Oh let's explore your blood's on a deeper level. Yeah,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to actually get data. Yeah, not just sit in the
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: normal range.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Alrighty guys, thanks for joining us. Talk to you soon.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Bye.