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- 0:01Today on the podcast, we're going to be talking about some
- 0:05random ideas about hearing no in sales and in business.
- 0:10So again, we're going to be looking at the idea that when it
- 0:13comes to sales, when it comes to business, you're going to be
- 0:16hearing no a lot. Now let me give you the
- 0:20background to the podcast. Oh, by the way, I'm making
- 0:23today's recording out and about. So you will hear some noise in
- 0:26the background. I'm in the parking lot.
- 0:27So expect to hear cars, you know, pulling out, pulling in
- 0:31then. Oh yeah.
- 0:34And then my name is Tavishima Ayedi.
- 0:36I'm the host of the podcast. If you'd love to connect with
- 0:38me, you can call, send me a text message or a WhatsApp message on
- 0:4108064662140. And if you like talking about
- 0:48all these sorts of things, then subscribe to the podcast
- 0:51because, you know, 2-3 times a week, that is what we do over
- 0:54here, talking about how to get customers, how to win sales, how
- 0:58to get people to come back, how to build relationship with
- 1:00customers, you know, those sorts of things.
- 1:03So like I said today on the podcast, what we're focusing on
- 1:06is this idea about hearing know in business.
- 1:10And this is the background to the context.
- 1:14I watched a video, I mean, somebody sent me a video on
- 1:16LinkedIn and basically was just, you know, the usual kind of
- 1:20conferences that you tech Bros and tech sisters organise where
- 1:23you guys get together, talk to yourselves about sales and
- 1:26marketing. I've always been fascinated by
- 1:28these sorts of gatherings because you'll find out that
- 1:32people who organize these things, yes, they've been
- 1:34successful in, you know, building one or two startups.
- 1:38And because of that, they come with some not so polished ideas
- 1:42when it comes to sales and marketing.
- 1:44But of course, everybody takes what they say as gospel truth
- 1:46because, well, you know, this guy has built a successful
- 1:49Unicorn, this guy has done this, this guy has done that.
- 1:52So therefore, everything that he says about sales and marketing
- 1:55must be true, right? So today I'm going to use a
- 2:01series of conversations in one of these.
- 2:07I'm not going to say exactly which conference it was because
- 2:09I don't want to call the people out, but yeah, I'm good.
- 2:13I'm just going to go through the guy's speech.
- 2:16I'm not even going to identify the guy because, you know, his
- 2:18identity is not important. The the event in question, the
- 2:23identity of the event in question is not important.
- 2:26What's important is that, you know, these are ideas that
- 2:29people talk about a lot when tech Bros and tech sisters get
- 2:34together. So let's start delving into it
- 2:37and see how many of these things make sense or how many of these
- 2:41things check out or how many of these things are false when it
- 2:44comes to a sales and business development perspective.
- 2:48Oh, sorry, one moment my attention is needed.
- 2:52Let me just sort this out and then I'll get back to today's
- 2:55recording. OK, I'm back.
- 3:00Sorry about the brake in transmission because when I
- 3:04started the recording, I was in the parking lot and I was
- 3:06waiting for someone and I didn't know he was going to come that
- 3:08soon. So he came sooner than I
- 3:10thought. So which is why I had to stop
- 3:11the recording. So the good news is I'm no
- 3:14longer in a parking lot. So the the interruptions should
- 3:19be the noise in the background should be significantly reduced.
- 3:23But still you will hear some noise in the background because
- 3:25I'm in a private residence just recording that.
- 3:27Let me finish up this recording real quick and then I can pay
- 3:31attention to my other payrolls for the day.
- 3:35So like I said, we're going to be looking at conversations with
- 3:39the tech bro, a YouTube recording for a tech event
- 3:45somewhere in Lagos that held earlier this year.
- 3:48We're a respected tech bro in Nigeria.
- 3:52Said a couple of things about sales and someone sent me the
- 3:55video and that's the reason. Went around a commentary on some
- 3:58of the things that he said. Now, he started off by saying
- 4:03that you're going to hear no a lot when it comes to sales and
- 4:07in business. In fact, he said it clearly.
- 4:10He said in your sales life, you will hear no, a lot more times
- 4:14that you will hear yes. And he decided that as I was
- 4:19going to start the event to tell his tech brothers and his tech
- 4:22sisters the truth, the hardcore cold truth that you hear no a
- 4:29lot more times than you hear yes.
- 4:30And it's a necessary thing to say when you're talking to tech
- 4:32Bros and tech sisters because you guys are a very optimistic
- 4:38bunch. And he's good, you know, because
- 4:40you need optimism. You know, when you're starting
- 4:42off, you know, you, you know, you don't enter the hustle as
- 4:46you need optimism to get you going.
- 4:48You need the ginger. But you have to temper the
- 4:52optimism with a dose of realism and with a dose of reality.
- 4:57And the truth of the matter is you will hear no a lot more
- 5:01times and you say then you will hear yes.
- 5:03So the tech bro was absolutely correct.
- 5:08Now the reason why tech bro on stage and people like me are
- 5:11saying this thing, it's not a we're trying to kill your spirit
- 5:14or we're not trying to dampen your vibe.
- 5:17It's just that if you come in with very high hopes,
- 5:19unrealistic expectations, by the time you hear no one or two
- 5:23times, you know people will use no and boss Basu, you know,
- 5:27you're not stuffing as if like I be, there's a problem with me or
- 5:32my dear socks or I'm just not cut out for this.
- 5:35And then next thing you go back and start looking for a job.
- 5:38So having the right level of expectations absolutely
- 5:42important when you're starting your business game, starting
- 5:45your sales game, for those of you who are in the tech space,
- 5:49you have a new app, you have a new whatever your fintech idea,
- 5:53you need to have the the right level of expectations.
- 5:56So is it true that you're going to hear no more times that you
- 5:59will hear? Yes, Yeah, that's true.
- 6:02It's absolutely true. But like I said, the reason why
- 6:07it's not because you suck because people take these things
- 6:11personal. Well, like one of my clients
- 6:13said, she said peas Now that was back when I was in the wedding
- 6:16space. You know, we have different
- 6:18accents from different part of the country.
- 6:20And that was the beauty of her being a wedding photographer
- 6:22because you're photographing brides from different parts of
- 6:26Niger. And then that's how the bride
- 6:28said, oh, I'm ready for my peas now.
- 6:30I was like a peas now. Now peas now then you think
- 6:33click that she was saying personal.
- 6:35So she was ready for her personal portrait.
- 6:38And anyway, The thing is me and her bride, we ended up fighting.
- 6:41And so since then my wife has been calling that bride pace now
- 6:46she's been calling her pace now saying that that's my
- 6:49girlfriend, that the reason why we're fighting is because we're
- 6:51feeling each other. Because me, I was thinking she's
- 6:53a fine babe and she's just thinking I'm a correct guy.
- 6:56It's just that me I don't marry and she's so she has found
- 6:58somebody that she wants to marry.
- 6:59So my wife was saying that was some sexual tension.
- 7:02That's the reason why we're fighting like that.
- 7:04So it's a joke in my house. Well, any small thing I would
- 7:07say, why you taking the pace now?
- 7:10So where was I? So some of you guys, you take
- 7:14the pace now, you take it personal when you sat here, you
- 7:17know, but it's not necessarily the case.
- 7:19The reason why you're going to hear no a lot is because of some
- 7:22simple dynamics. If you listen to Brian Tracy,
- 7:28some of his early stuff, you know, like early, early
- 7:30material, like 1980s kind of early, I think the audio
- 7:36material on the psychology of selling now Brian Tracy says it
- 7:39there that not everybody wants what you have.
- 7:43Not everybody needs what you have and not everybody can
- 7:45afford what you have. So because of that, you should
- 7:48expect that lots of people are going to say no.
- 7:52Let me repeat, not everybody wants what you have.
- 7:55So I expect them to say no, they don't want it.
- 7:58Some people maybe they kind of want it, but it's not really a
- 8:01need no be priority at the moment.
- 8:04So expect them to say no. And then some people they wanted
- 8:08to and The thing is priority, like they need it now, now, now,
- 8:11now, but Cobo they not get as in Shishi, they're broke, as in no
- 8:16money at all. They can't wrangle the budget.
- 8:19So except if you want to, you know, milk of human kindness.
- 8:23And so I take a dash you or you discount to to the point where
- 8:28you feel like somebody's taking advantage of you.
- 8:30Except if you want to explore all those routes, expect the
- 8:34person to say no. Now other sales trainers in the
- 8:43field like Brian Tracy, who else?
- 8:45Brian Tracy, Victor Antonio, you know, they talk about urgency.
- 8:49Urgency is the idea that before somebody buys, they need to be
- 8:56in that space where there's an urgent thing that is compelling
- 9:00them, you know, to buy. So back to the example that I
- 9:04gave about a few episodes ago when I talk about the purple
- 9:08Tesla, Tesla Cybertruck, you know, in Abuja.
- 9:12So let's just assume that I'm flush with cash.
- 9:16And by the way, I'm not. So if any of you want to give me
- 9:18money, you know, I'm open. That's why I give my phone
- 9:20number at the beginning and at the end of every episode because
- 9:22I want you guys to call and give me some money.
- 9:26But let's just assume that I'll flush with cash and I have that
- 9:28430 M 430 million naira clean ready to buy that purple Tesla
- 9:37cyber truck. So when I'm cruising down in my
- 9:39electric vehicle, only one in town one day see that purple
- 9:42Tesla, they will know that that tavish might be that.
- 9:46So assume I have that cash ready.
- 9:51I want this car. Yeah.
- 9:54OK. Can I say there's a need?
- 9:56Because I don't think anybody needs a 430 million naira car is
- 9:59not as if he's in need per SE, but I can afford it.
- 10:02In fact, I have 500 M with me. Excuse me, I have 500 M with me.
- 10:06Cash. That means I will buy the car
- 10:08and I'll still keep 70 million change in my pocket.
- 10:13But then if there's no sense of urgency about it, let's say the
- 10:16reason why I want to buy the car is because maybe we're doing
- 10:18high school reunion, secondary school reunion because I went to
- 10:23Christ the King College, Guangalada in Abuja.
- 10:25That's why I did my GSS. That's junior secondary school
- 10:28for those of you who are not Nigerians listening.
- 10:30Then I did my senior secondary school in Greg's Saint Greg
- 10:34Bridge College, Southwest Eco. Shout out to all Gregorians
- 10:37listening to this podcast. So you know, now when you're
- 10:41young boys, you understand now like we're all used to form, how
- 10:45will I put it, the gas to form levels.
- 10:48Now you understand, we're coming from different backgrounds, you
- 10:51know, some of us good to form upper class, some of us good to
- 10:54form middle class. And then there's some people
- 10:56that you can't form nothing like you're from a poor background,
- 11:01you're from a poor background. You can't you can't form
- 11:03anything. So we used to try and situate
- 11:05ourselves like that, you know, and it's normal.
- 11:09So as the trends are changing, you know, all of us trying to
- 11:11flex. So when CK was raining, that's
- 11:14Calvin Klein. You know, we'll try and dress up
- 11:17head to toe CK Calvin Klein shirt covering Klein belt
- 11:22covering Klein jeans covering Klein.
- 11:24So yes, you're a correct guy. And then trends change and the
- 11:29time that it was Tommy Hilfiger, you're not trying to show up in
- 11:32your your Tommy Hilfiger complete.
- 11:36You should call the hue finger back in those days your Tommy
- 11:39Hilfiger complete. I can't remember if Tommy
- 11:41Hilfiger used to make belts but used to make perfume there then.
- 11:44So you will spray your Tommy Hilfiger perfume.
- 11:47You show up fresh to death as a correct guy.
- 11:51So you know those are the stupid games that we used to play back
- 11:54in those days. Now to form levels and I can see
- 11:57that the thing hasn't stopped. In fact I feel sorry for
- 12:00secondary school boys now because man, the game has gone
- 12:03nuclear. You see secondary schoolboy
- 12:06carrying Samsung Fold phone that is 2.5 million man.
- 12:12The level of flexing, the level of dunking on people that they
- 12:16do nowadays is on another level. I'm happy I didn't go to
- 12:19secondary school during this period because man, I would have
- 12:21cried. You show up with your Nokia, me
- 12:26or your classmate, the flex on V4, it's not easy.
- 12:33Anyway, where was I? I lost my train of thought.
- 12:38So like I said, now. So that's how we used to flex in
- 12:40those days. Now, of course, normally now
- 12:42those some people who are on top of the food chain, like back
- 12:45when I was in CKC, that's my junior secondary school.
- 12:48All those Abuja children, Minister of Extended Affairs,
- 12:51those are the people that used to travel.
- 12:52Anyhow, it's our wish you could. You didn't hear?
- 12:55No, I didn't hear what happened. And they posted their family to
- 12:58Washington DC, OK. They after a while, you see you
- 13:03put in town again. Yeah, we're just passing through
- 13:05as I am passing through how what happened And we've been
- 13:07reassigned to Israel small time which could be the guys in Italy
- 13:12just traveling up and down traveling anyhow.
- 13:14So now those Ministry of External Affairs kids, those
- 13:17guys you know do on top of the food chain.
- 13:20So maybe now you have been living with that beef in your
- 13:25mind that this Ministry of External Affairs children I will
- 13:28show them, I will show them there.
- 13:30Now eventually you are in that situation where you have excess
- 13:34cash, surplus cash. Now you will call meeting for
- 13:40you know, you know how you do it now 2008 set 1995 set this set
- 13:44that set you will now call meeting and you want to pull up
- 13:47and kill everybody. You just show up in that purple
- 13:51Tesla cyber truck so that when they see you don't know that
- 13:55this guy don't make up. This guy is 1 in town.
- 14:00This guy is the king after God. Now this guy nobody else.
- 14:05So I know it sounds silly what I'm saying, but for some people,
- 14:09that's just a sense of urgency that they need.
- 14:13This meeting is coming up or this contract is coming up.
- 14:16This situation is coming up. If I pull up, I guess to pull
- 14:20up, correct? So for some people, that's just
- 14:23the sense of urgency that they need any answers to sell us not
- 14:28to judge with sense of urgency is realistic or not, but
- 14:31basically somebody can want something needed, can afford it.
- 14:35I can have 500 million naira cash sitting under my bed right
- 14:39now, but if there's no sense of urgency to buy that Tesla
- 14:41Cybertruck, there's no sense of urgency, I'm not going to buy
- 14:44it. And in that case, if you're
- 14:46selling that, that, that kind of car, expect me to say no.
- 14:52So excuse me. So you can see that people are
- 14:55going to say no for a whole bunch of reasons, then plenty.
- 14:59So sitting down, feeling sad, trying to figure out, is it me?
- 15:04It's not worth the hassle. There's sometimes when people
- 15:07say no because it's your problem and that's because you're
- 15:10targeting was off targeting in the sense of are you approaching
- 15:13people who are your ICPICP meaning ideal customer profile.
- 15:17You know your ideal audience. Are you talking to the right
- 15:22people? Sometimes you're approaching the
- 15:24wrong person. You're approaching people who
- 15:26might never want, might never need, can never afford, even if
- 15:30you sell them and their whole family will never be able to
- 15:32afford, not even talk of urgency.
- 15:36So yes, sometimes the problem is yours because you're talking to
- 15:39the right people. Or sometimes your targeting is
- 15:40that you're in the wrong environment or in the wrong
- 15:43context. And I've given an example about
- 15:45how in my wedding photography days, there's one parish in
- 15:48Abuja that I was using my own reasoning that this is a big
- 15:53parish. Now, if I go here, I'll be
- 15:55talking to brides where they have good, good money, people
- 15:58that will be talking, you know, 400,500 thousand, not 150.
- 16:05But as I showed up in that parish, the things that I saw
- 16:09when I tried to market my, excuse me, market myself as a
- 16:13young wedding photographer, people were pricing me 150 Ki
- 16:17say big parish like this. I realized that I was in the
- 16:22wrong neighborhood after three, three or four Fridays, 'cause I
- 16:28used to go and do my marketing on Fridays.
- 16:30After three or four Fridays, I gave myself sense and I said,
- 16:33look, I can't stay in this parish and find something sweet.
- 16:37I have to locate myself in another environment where I can
- 16:41start hearing good money. So in essence, sometimes there's
- 16:46some people are saying, no, it's your fault, you're talking to
- 16:48the wrong people or you put yourself in the wrong context.
- 16:53In that case, the solution is simple.
- 16:55Just like me, I removed myself from that parish and I went to
- 16:58other parishes where I studying figures.
- 17:02That makes sense, where if you tell somebody 300, they will
- 17:05shake, They'll say how about 2:50 or you tell somebody 400,
- 17:09they'll say, well, that sounds just about right.
- 17:12Then I was like, hey, I have found my space, let me remain
- 17:14here. Oh, by the way, I don't do
- 17:17wedding photography anymore, so I don't know how much people
- 17:19charge nowadays. So please, wedding
- 17:22photographers, you know, no vex. If the numbers I'm calling are
- 17:25small by today's standards, understand that I'm no longer in
- 17:28the field. So where was I?
- 17:33OK, I lost my train of thought. So sometimes, yeah, it might be
- 17:37your fault because your targeting has been off, you've
- 17:39been talking to people who are not your ICP or you have been in
- 17:42the wrong environment. Now, another reason why people
- 17:47say no is because how I put it, OK, there's this thing that is
- 17:52called market validation. That's what Gary Vaynerchuk
- 17:55calls it. And then you tech Bros and
- 17:57Texas, as you guys like, call it product market fit.
- 18:01Now the idea behind market validation or product market fit
- 18:04is this. You have a product or service,
- 18:06you have a brand new app, your, you know, fintech idea, whatever
- 18:09that you're trying to bring to the market because you believe
- 18:12that you have discovered a problem that is significant.
- 18:16So now one is normal down is normal.
- 18:20Like if you did not cover a problem, like why are you even
- 18:22in the market? So you can cover a problem.
- 18:24But The thing is, there are some problems that some people don't,
- 18:28people think are not worth paying for.
- 18:34OK, Some. Can I give OK my sharpener?
- 18:36I'm looking at my son's sharpener right now.
- 18:39While he's one of the sharpeners that I gave him.
- 18:41It's a, it's this kind of sharpener that is mostly used by
- 18:44architects. I can't remember the name of the
- 18:46brand, but I think it's real fancy.
- 18:48It's really sturdy. And then it fits into a
- 18:51container and then you use your hand and then turn it, you know,
- 18:55and then it sharpens the pencil and then all the dirt is
- 19:00collected in the bottom of the container.
- 19:02So yeah, in Nigeria, you know, parents would just buy ordinary
- 19:05sharpener. Some people who have fancy will
- 19:09buy that kind of sharpener. But you know, this automatic
- 19:12sharpener, the one that is battery powered, you just put
- 19:15the pencil inside, then anything will now do.
- 19:20And then the thing will sharpen the pencil by itself.
- 19:22You know, half a second, just do your pencil, don't sharpen.
- 19:27Have you noticed that nobody in Nigeria is buying a sharpener?
- 19:30None. Even the parents of the kids,
- 19:35the parents make gay money, even they do not buy that one because
- 19:39in this part of the world, my son needs a sharpener, my
- 19:43daughter needs a sharpener. Yes, that's a problem, but it's
- 19:48not that significant a problem. So which one?
- 19:51You're now giving me automated pencil sharpener.
- 19:56So it's a problem over here. Children's pencils need
- 19:58sharpening. But in this part of the world,
- 20:01people don't think it's that big a deal.
- 20:02Like it's not that deep. No be sharpener.
- 20:06In fact, in some households they've given up on sharpeners.
- 20:08It's razor that they use. Like me.
- 20:12I got tired of the sharpeners packing up, so I just went and
- 20:14bought a pen knife and I told him, look, you need this thing
- 20:16sharpened. Give it to me.
- 20:18I just use my trusty pen knife. Sharpen all your pencils and
- 20:22here you are. You're done for the whole week.
- 20:24I've sharpened all your pencils. Go.
- 20:26And prosper. So if there's a problem in the
- 20:31market and you explore the problem, but it now looks as if
- 20:39there's no market validation, there's no product market fit as
- 20:43in there's a problem, there's a demand for the problem to be
- 20:47solved, but the problem is not that much, is not that big of a
- 20:51deal. People know who drop back, they
- 20:53won't drop money to solve that problem because it's a problem,
- 20:56but it's not that big a deal. Then expect people to say no
- 20:59because unfortunately for you, it's a problem.
- 21:04But people are not willing to pay money for that.
- 21:07So expect people to say no. You have not been able to
- 21:11establish product market fit. You have found a problem, you
- 21:15have brought a solution and you have seen that there is some
- 21:18demand and the demand is significant, but they're not
- 21:22willing to pay the price That is enough for you to stay in
- 21:26business. You have not achieved market
- 21:28validation of your idea. You have not achieved product
- 21:31market fit. The market doesn't think this is
- 21:33a problem worth paying for. In that sense, expect people to
- 21:36say no. But like you can see people are
- 21:40going to say no for lots and lots and lots of reasons.
- 21:45So the main point here is don't take it personal.
- 21:49Was my life. We say don't take it pays now,
- 21:52don't take keep pace now at all. It has very little to do with
- 21:57you, very little. So usually the problems are
- 22:01around your targeting. Are you talking to the right
- 22:03people? Are you in the right place or
- 22:06your value proposition? Is the value proposition
- 22:10significant enough or not for people to engage and to buy?
- 22:16So the tech bro is absolutely correct.
- 22:18I've said it on the podcast before, one of the listeners
- 22:22when she reached out, you know, she laughed about it.
- 22:24But I'll say it again because it's true, because, you know, in
- 22:26Nigeria, we have a premium here on being academically on point.
- 22:31So back in the day, and I think even now self, I still see that
- 22:35kind of thing, you know, the rush to carry first, make sure
- 22:38you have the perfect CGPA, make sure you have the perfect test
- 22:42scores and everything. But unfortunately, school is not
- 22:45real life, especially for those of us in Niger, you know where
- 22:51they expect excellence. In our schools, we expect
- 22:56excellence. So school is not real life.
- 23:01You can get 100% in your test scores, every single subject,
- 23:05100 percent, 100%. But in business, no, you can't
- 23:09get 100%. In business, it is not possible.
- 23:14But because 100% in business is not possible, it doesn't mean if
- 23:17you get worried, it doesn't mean you can't succeed.
- 23:19You can't succeed because you actually just need to make
- 23:22traction with one idea, one or two ideas over the course of
- 23:26your life. You can make traction in one or
- 23:28two things. You'll be fine.
- 23:31You need to score 100% on every single thing.
- 23:34Take for instance Steve Jobs, three companies associated with
- 23:40three companies, Apple and Next and then Pixar Animation.
- 23:44So Apple, well, that company was successful.
- 23:48Pixar, yeah, Pixar became successful.
- 23:51But Next, arguably some people say Next was a flop.
- 23:55So the guy tried three ideas, 2 clicked, and I say that that's
- 23:57OK. He didn't need 100%.
- 24:00Two out of three is what's that? Is that 6?
- 24:03Is that 66 percent, 66%? And he was doing OK.
- 24:08He didn't get 100%. Now with it.
- 24:11Now we have tried lots of stuff. One of them that didn't work was
- 24:15juice, because I remember then I was doing my NYC back then.
- 24:19I was in Kano, Yeah, when the juice came out, I think was, I
- 24:24can't remember the name of the juice and the guy tried.
- 24:27You see that parties, you see that weddings, you know, But
- 24:31man, the thing just didn't move. So it failed.
- 24:33But a couple of things I worked out.
- 24:35The cement thing seems to be working out very well for
- 24:38Dangote. I think the time when he used to
- 24:40be a transporter like in the transportation business, I think
- 24:44that one didn't work out too well.
- 24:47Let's see what else. The refinery.
- 24:50The refinery seems to be working out well.
- 24:52And then he wants to open up a port.
- 24:54We'll see how the port works out or not.
- 24:57But basically, you know, Dank is not 100%.
- 25:00There's some things that failed Warren Buffett.
- 25:03Warren Buffett says you'll need a few home runs to win the game.
- 25:07You don't have to score big every time.
- 25:09Also a few home runs. And depending on who you ask,
- 25:13some people who say that he's only successful where Buffett
- 25:15was only successful in about 40%.
- 25:17I'll be 50% of the stuff that he invested in Bush are.
- 25:21That 40 or 50% is what is responsible for him earning
- 25:26billions and billions and billions.
- 25:29Crazy one. Buffett didn't get 100%.
- 25:31He didn't, not in business. And then in your business
- 25:36journey, you're going to hear something about the 8020
- 25:39principle or Paretos law. I prefer to, there's some people
- 25:43who say the law of unequal returns.
- 25:45That's what I prefer to use because some people who say 8020
- 25:48is not really 8020. They were going to show that in
- 25:51some industries more like 7030. And I'm like, look, the, the,
- 25:54the ratio is not the point. Whether it's 6040 or 8020 or
- 25:587030 is not the point. The point is this, that most of
- 26:03your returns that you get in business will come from a very
- 26:07small core of activities. And that's what the 8020
- 26:09principle is about, that 80% of your money, 80% of your profits
- 26:13are going to come from 20% of your customers.
- 26:18So you don't even have to score 100% in customers if you're able
- 26:23to just select the right core of customers, the right group of
- 26:27customers and do a good job with seven, with 20% of them, that
- 26:3120% will be responsible for 80% of the profits that you make.
- 26:35And Please remember, don't go around argue with anybody that
- 26:39is not 8020. Yes, there are some places where
- 26:43I think the person that came up with this thing, Pareto himself,
- 26:46I think when he was doing his research, I think for Italy, for
- 26:50landed property, I think was more like 6040 or something.
- 26:53Now 40% of your returns will come from, sorry, 60% of your
- 26:57returns will come from 40% of the land you own or something
- 27:00like that. So it's not about the ratio,
- 27:04it's not about 802060407030. The idea is the big impact, the
- 27:10big money, the life changing money that you will make.
- 27:12It will come from a small core of customers or a small group of
- 27:18a small idea or small, you know whatever.
- 27:24So summary you will hear no most of the time, but don't let that
- 27:29know where you down. We are only looking for is few
- 27:33small yeses. I repeat, we are only looking
- 27:38for a few small yeses. When you hear the no, we should
- 27:43try and do some introspection to try and figure out what was
- 27:47wrong, what didn't work so that we can improve upon our
- 27:51conversions. The idea is when you start out
- 27:55and you try and toast 10 people to buy your product or your
- 27:58service, maybe only one person will buy.
- 28:00Don't let the nine who didn't buy weigh you down.
- 28:04What can you learn from that experience of selling with the
- 28:07one? Then what can you also learn
- 28:11from the experience of losing out on the 9:00 so that you can
- 28:13improve your conversions so that next week if you talk to 10
- 28:16people, maybe 2 will buy overtime, 3 will buy overtime, 4
- 28:22will buy. As your conversions improve,
- 28:26your lot in business will also improve.
- 28:30But know that there's no 100% when it comes to business.
- 28:35When it comes to sales or business, there's no 100%.
- 28:37Some of you will now point me to was his get Amazon.
- 28:41See Amazon, That's an outlier. The man started one business and
- 28:45he scored 100% on one business. And yes, but that's an outlier.
- 28:49That is the reason why when it comes to this thing, he's the
- 28:52only name you can call. Who else again, scored 100% who
- 28:55else? So please, those of you who talk
- 28:59about Amazon, what's his name again?
- 29:05What's his name? The founder of Amazon, he would
- 29:08talk about, OK, give this thing a recipes.
- 29:11That is not that is not usual. That is an outlier.
- 29:15That is a, you know, flashing the pan.
- 29:18It's not, I'm not saying he was lucky.
- 29:21I'm just saying that that is not how typically we expect things
- 29:25to be. It's like back when we were
- 29:28growing up in the 80s. Back then you disorder.
- 29:33You are tall to say this girl will play basketball, but you
- 29:36know, no, be sure it's not all of us who are tall that ended up
- 29:39being good basketballers. So yes, there is that one boy
- 29:45that you know in your school who was tall and turned out to be a
- 29:49magician with the basketball. But you know, that's just an
- 29:52outlier. It's not the usual.
- 29:56So excuse me. OK, 30 minutes.
- 29:58Let me just wrap it up. So that's it.
- 30:00On this first set of conversations, the tech bro was
- 30:03correct. So if you attend any event and
- 30:06the tech bro stands on stage or a tech sister stands on stage
- 30:10and they tell you that expected here.
- 30:12No, most of the times, most of the time they're absolutely
- 30:15correct. So that's it.
- 30:16And that's all for today. Thank you very much for
- 30:18listening. Remember, if you'd love to
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- 30:30time and attention. I'll catch you guys some other
- 30:31time.