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New Details Reveal What Happened Before Amy Hillyard Disappeared · True Crime with Gavin Fish

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  Well, there is a 52 year old Oakland woman who is missing and
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  I I know what is I've got something plain.
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  I had my window open for this video.
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  It was unmuted. Oh, that is funny.
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  I thought Wanda was in there, you know, playing an April
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  working. So, Wanda, it wasn't you.
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  I think that was the first thing I thought.
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  Anyway, guys. OK, Javi, I'm going to need to
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  take two on this one. Yeah, in 3/2 a 52 year old
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  Oakland woman is missing. This is nothing to joke about.
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  This is nothing to laugh about. I apologize for that little
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  outburst of mine. She's missing.
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  She has been missing about a week.
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  We're starting to get the true crime community involved in
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  this. I've seen some coverage from
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  Joel, my friend over at Surviving the Survivor.
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  I've seen Paula from Plunder True Crime has been covering it
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  on Facebook. So this is good.
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  We're getting some momentum going.
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  Of course, major media outlets, especially those outlets in the
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  Bay Area, have been covering this, but we're going to get
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  into some of the details tonight.
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  It's not quite adding up for me. In fact, the very first thing I
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  thought was, oh, this is this going to be an Anna Walsh
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  situation where nobody knows where she went?
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  And I'm not, I'm not casting aspersions, I'm not making any
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  accusations. That's just the first thing I
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  thought. Now, after I've looked into it,
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  I I don't feel like it's that way at all.
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  This is not a Brian and Anna Walsh situation, at least from
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  what I can tell. It's a situation where a woman
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  went into a known place that is, I don't know if I'd call.
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  And it's pretty rugged, right? Pretty rugged area of Oakland
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  going up into the Oakland hills. And she has not been seen since.
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  And we need to find her. The community wants her found,
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  her family wants her found. Her friends want her found.
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  We need to help find her as well.
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  So if that's something that you want to talk about with me
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  tonight, please stick around. I'm also going to give you an
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  update on the Nancy Guthrie case.
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  We've got an update on the prosecution against Tyler
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  A new document, court document dropped today in the case of
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  Mickey Steins, who is who is accused of murdering Judge Kevin
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  Mullins. We've covered that at length
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  here on the channel. And also, we've got a bit of an
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  update on Brad Simpson, who is accused of murdering his wife,
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  Suzanne Simpson. So we've got so much to talk
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  about tonight. I hope you'll stick around and
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  get into it with me here soon, shortly.
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  Hello there my friend. Welcome back to another true
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  Thank you, thank you, thank you for joining me today.
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  We are today discussing the case of 52 year old Amy Hilliard.
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  This is probably the graphic that I should bring up first.
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  Amy Hilliard was last seen. It's actually been updated since
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  this poster was created. She was last seen at about 4:30
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  PM on March 25th. Now Amy is 5 feet 4 inches tall.
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  She's 120 lbs roughly. She has blonde hair.
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  She has Hazel eyes. There has been a little bit of
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  update on what she was wearing. The last time she was seen, she
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  was wearing a white short sleeved shirt and light jeans,
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  white sneakers with black stripes.
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  She was last seen going into Diamond Park in Oakland.
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  And I just want to get, I just want to talk about that first,
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  right? So if you were in the San
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  Francisco Bay Area, I mean, I know you're in San Jose, that's
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  not really all that close to Oakland, but but you may have
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  some Co watchers that are closer.
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  If you have seen Missus Hilliard, will you please call
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  510-591-4857 or the Oakland Police Department at
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  510-238-3641? This is a person who is
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  considered to be at risk. Like I said, she's been gone
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  since the 25th of March. It's been a week that she has
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  been gone. We don't know.
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  We don't know why or how. She just simply disappeared.
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  But we're going to get into it today to see if we can kind of
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  eke out some clues and some of the coverage a little bit about
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  Amy. Amy owns a coffee store in
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  Oakland and in San Francisco that's pretty darn popular.
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  And of course, as I bring that up, I.
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  Oh, it's Farley's Coffee. Yeah, Farley's Coffee and she's
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  pretty well known in the neighborhood and in in the Bay
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  Area. She's a successful.
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  She's a co-owner with her husband Chris.
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  Here's a picture of of Amy and Chris.
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  At this point, there doesn't seem to be any suspicion, at
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  least publicly, that Chris had anything to do with it.
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  This isn't one of those cases where people are like everybody,
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  please check the basement. Now.
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  It looks like what she did. Well, actually let's let's read
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  a couple of let's just go right to a little bit of local
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  coverage on this. This from KTVU, local affiliate
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  in in Oakland or in the Bay Area.
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  Written by Crystal Bailey. This came out yesterday.
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  Oakland Police Department say missing woman was last seen in
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  Diamond Park 6 days ago. Let's actually set the scene
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  here real quick. Going over to meal.
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  What's oh, I'm having problems tonight.
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  We're going to get back to this. We need to be here.
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  Here we are. OK, so this little area right
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  here, this is called Diamond Park.
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  It's spelled DIMOND. Diamond Park follows the gully
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  of a Creek. So just to kind of help you
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  understand Oakland just a little bit, OK.
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  And and I'm not I'm not from there.
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  I'm from Sacramento, but having spent plenty of time in the Bay
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  Area, I kind of can give you the lay of the land.
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  OK. It's hard to tell on this map,
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  but down here along the Bay, kind of where a lot of the city
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  is, it is it, it's flat, right? It's at sea level.
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  But then you move up into the Oakland hills.
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  So when we when we're in Diamond Park here, we're kind of moving
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  up into that area. We're getting up into the hill
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  part of the of of the city, which then you know, goes over
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  the hill up into Walnut Creek and one of my favorite places on
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  earth actually, Moraga, which where is Moraga?
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  Where I bet if I get in here closer it will find it doesn't
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  really matter. Moraga is over in this area.
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  But anyway, when we get in here to Diamond Park, we are getting
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  up into those hills. In fact, Hwy. 13 is kind of
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  pretty high in, you know, up on up on the hill.
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  And then of course it goes even higher.
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  Before you kind of crossover anytime from the Sacramento
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  area, we want to go to Oakland. There's actually a tunnel that
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  you have to go through. So anyway, as, as we see this,
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  this park kind of travel through up this, this gully, this Canyon
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  that is created by a Creek, it's going higher and higher in
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  elevation. What we understand is that Amy
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  was a kind of a hiker, kind of an outdoorsy kind of girl,
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  right? And she would go and she would
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  walk out in this, in this park. Now, I don't know how easily you
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  can tell, but you know, got lots of oak trees, got lots of heavy
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  foliage. And I'm hoping that it will kind
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  of there we go. And you've got backyards going
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  into the park. And I think our problem here is
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  that if she went, you know, say on the South part of the park,
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  she goes in and she she parks and she starts hiking in the
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  park. There are any number of places
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  along the park. As she's getting higher and
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  higher in elevation, going through Sossil Creek area, this
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  there, there's so many places where she could exit.
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  Not there aren't just official exits, you know, going out
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  places that might have cameras and stuff like that.
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  There are an infinite number of places that she could have come
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  out if she did come out. And we've watched or I have
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  watched some coverage, some news coverage where people are going
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  in there kind of like Jack and Lily Sullivan style and they're
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  they're just trying to cover every square inch of that park.
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  Did something happen while she was in the park that caused her
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  to be incapacitated? Did she lose consciousness?
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  Did she fall and get hurt? She couldn't move?
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  Or is it, did she encounter somebody who took her out of
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  there? Or did she, is she running away
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  from something and she decided to disappear from there?
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  We don't know. And because of even though we're
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  in the middle of a city here, well, we're kind of on the edge
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  of a city, but we're in a densely populated area.
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  I mean, this is the San Francisco Bay Area, right?
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  For those of you who don't know where we are, we're on the West
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  Coast of the United States in the San Francisco Bay Area.
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  Oakland is part of the part of the Bay Area, so you know, it's
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  heavily and densely populated. Oh, there's Moraga.
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  That's my, that's one of my favorite places on earth, the
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  home of Saint Mary's College. My late friend was a graduate of
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  Saint Mary's College, which is quite a tangent.
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  Gavin, I don't know if anybody cares.
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  Does anybody really care? appropriate.
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  Yeah, that was appropriate. Hobby, thank you very much for
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  the tangent button. Yeah.
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  So anyway, we're in a densely populated area, and she has just
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  vanished. OK Going back over to this news
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  coverage written by Crystal Bailey for KTVU.
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  Oakland Police Department says missing woman was last seen in
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  Diamond Park 6 days ago. Dateline Oakland authorities and
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  volunteers were out searching Tuesday.
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  This would be yesterday from the time that we are recording this.
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  Searching Tuesday morning in Oakland's Diamond Park for a
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  missing coffee shop owner who hasn't been seen since last
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  Wednesday. 25th Amy Hilliard, the co-owner of Farley's Coffee
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  was last seen around 2:00 PM Wednesday.
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  That has been updated to about 4:30.
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  She was last seen, but I'm going to read this. 2:00 PM.
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  Wednesday leaving her home in Oakland's Cleveland Heights
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  neighborhood. Authorities are considering
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  considering her at risk because of a medical condition.
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  So she was seen leaving her home around 2:00 PM in Cleveland
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  Heights, but that's been updated that they she was seen around
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  4:30 in or near Diamond Park. Now Gavin is having a hard time.
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  Let's go to here. I, I just want to show you kind
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  of she lives in the Cleveland Heights area.
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  It's over here by Merritt Lake. It's about a 10 minute drive
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  from her house on Radnor Rd. on the 500 block of Radnor Rd. over
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  to Diamond Park. And I think I don't know, I
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  don't know if it matters to you guys, but just to just to kind
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  of see kind of neighborhood that she lives in.
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  This is what Oakland looks like. You know, there, there will be
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  it. It's already rather hilly looks
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  like where she lives. But when we get when we get up
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  into let's let's go, let's go up here to to Diamond near Diamond
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  Park. Anyway, we're up higher in the
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  hills, right? It's just Oakland is just very
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  hilly, almost like San Francisco is.
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  So this is this is the kind of area that we are talking about.
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  OK, Where were we? About 60 people from the Alameda
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  County Sheriff's Office are part of Tuesday's search, which
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  started around 8:00 AM. Mutual aid teams from Contra
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  Costa and Marin counties are also assisting.
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  The Oakland Police Department issued a statement saying the
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  search focused on this location because it's the last place
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  Hilliard was known to be. Police said there is recent
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  video footage of her at Diamond Park at around 4:30 PM on March
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  25th, the day she was last seen. I don't know what kind of video
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  footage that is. It was somebody in the park
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  videoing something and came forward to, Police said Here is
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  some video where she's walking through or is IT security camera
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  or somebody's ring camera, you know, around the park.
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  We don't, we don't know at this point.
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  Continuing the article despite some incorrect initial
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  information, friends and family want people to know she was last
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  seen wearing a white top and jeans and that she was alone.
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  Community search parties formed around the Oakland hills along
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  Skyline Blvd. Tuesday morning, in addition to
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  search and rescue crews. Brian Molino, who said he didn't
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  know Hilliard, joined the search this morning along Skyline Blvd.
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  searching for clues like shoes or articles of clothing that
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  could have been left behind. Quote.
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  I'd want the same thing for me if someone I love went missing,
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  God forbid, said Molino. Now we're looking for Skyline
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  Blvd. So I just, I just want to go
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  over here real quick, see if we can find.
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  I'm bringing over while I'm looking for it here, there's
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  Park Blvd. Let me just look for Skyline
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  Blvd. Oakland, CA.
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  OK, so this is Skyline Blvd. Skyline Blvd. goes clear over
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  here down here. OK, so wow, I've lost Skyline
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  Blvd. already. I don't know where it
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  intersects. Anyway, it's around it's it's
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  around the the the park. Hilliard is well known locally
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  as the co-owner of Farley's Farley's Coffee with locations
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  in Oakland. And in San Francisco's Potrero
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  Hill neighborhood, of course, they don't say potrero.
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  That just comes out naturally to me.
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  Brownie points for anybody who can tell me the translation of
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  potrero from Spanish to English. Bonus points.
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  Friends describe her as a unifying presence in the
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  community. Susan E Andy, who's acting as a
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  spokesperson for the family, said she's known Hilliard since
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  she was 18 years old and called her an avid hiker who is a
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  dedicated servant to the community.
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  OK, avid hiker. That's why she would go into the
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  park. We're continuing to raise
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  awareness. This is a quote and we're
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  focusing on bringing Amy home to the family, she said.
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  Andy added that more added more than 200 people have been
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  searching for her in the areas she frequented since she went
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  missing. So, so they're not just focused
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  directly on the park, all sorts of places.
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  She's the kind of person that collects people, brings people
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  together, friend Serena Carey said at a vigil on Sunday.
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  When you have a problem, she's generally the first person you
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  reach out to. Oakland police are asking anyone
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  with information to contact the department's missing persons
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  unit at 510-238-3641. And I'm going to bring up this
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  missing person, the poster, one more time.
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  There are a couple of numbers. You can call 510-238-3641 or
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  510-591-4857. I think that if if you were to
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  spot her or see her evidence of her, I think it would probably
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  be appropriate to call 911 as well.
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  You don't have to memorize these numbers, right?
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  Let me check in with what you guys are saying because I would
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  love to hear your ideas on what what may have happened.
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  Let me just Sandy Ray, let let's just check in to see where
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  people are from. Grew up in Pollock Pines.
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  My father was a sheriff in sixties, 70s and 80s.
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  Sacramento was my stomping ground.
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  Pollock Pines is awesome. I dated a girl on Pollock Pines.
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  I'm still friends with her. When I said dated like we were
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  17 years old or 18 years old, something like that.
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  She's awesome, Still lives in Pollock Pines.
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  Great place. Allie is a newbie, loves loves
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  me. Glad you're here.
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  Thank you for being here. Let's see if anybody else is is
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  checking in with where you guys from.
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  Let's see where you're from. Salisbury, Tennessee is in the
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  house. Hazeltine lived in Oakland.
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  Nancy, this is a great question. Any movement with bank accounts?
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  None that I have heard. Emmy says that's it's not that
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  far from me. Emmy's.
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  I know you're in San Jose. Debbie says I need cluevelta for
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  my prescription of TCBS. Yeah, you got to have it.
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  I'm Goddess. Checking in from Erie, PA.
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  Garth B Nutt I'm a Hildebrand that lives in Hildebrand, North
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  Carolina. Glad you are here.
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  Kentucky is in the house. Seed capital of the United
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  States is here. Western Kentucky, Georgia,
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  Jacksonville, FL Northern California is here.
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  Glad you are here. Elizabeth says definitely need
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  some clue. Velta.
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  Northeast Kentucky is here. Thank you very much.
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  You guys are awesome. Let's see if there's any and he
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  says just posted a link from NBC Bay Area.
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  Let's see cooler by the lake, says Gavin.
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  Thanks for covering this. Watch Joel's show yesterday.
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  And it seems to me that this is most likely a voluntary
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  disappearance. I hope she surfaces soon, but I
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  don't get a good feeling about this one.
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  I kind of for me, the the two main scenarios that could be
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  happening here is like you said, she just wanted to disappear and
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  like it's actually hard, I think to just drop off the face of the
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  earth. It's hard to disappear you.
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  There's so they're just so many Ring cameras and Nest cameras
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  and generic cameras. There's just so many cameras
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  everywhere, right? It's hard to disappear,
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  especially if we get this word out to more people who live in
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  the area and who have cameras, maybe maybe even dash cams right
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  as they're driving near the park.
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  It's just so hard to disappear. But that's definitely one
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  possibility, especially considering like I said, that
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  you could sneak out through somebody's backyard or or
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  something like that. So totally, totally possible.
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  It could be that she is safe in a, you know, in a shelter
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  somewhere. Could be.
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  And oh man, I hope so. But I think for a person like
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  Amy, at least from the way she's been described, I think that she
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  may have injured herself while she was in there and was not
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  able to get help or, or something happened to her at the
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  hand of another in that park. Either way, doesn't matter.
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  We need to find her, right? And so many people go missing.
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  So many people go missing. We, we just don't, we just don't
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  want them to be missing forever. What was the name of the young
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  woman? Will you guys remind me, what
• 26:02
  was the name of the young woman from Hawaii who ran away to
• 26:07
  Southern California, then New Mexico?
• 26:10
  And we were searching, searching, searching for her and
• 26:13
  her father, poor guy, in his grief, took his well, he
• 26:19
  unalived himself while she was missing.
• 26:24
  Man, I don't want anything like that to happen.
• 26:27
  I, I just, I'm so worried about it, Robin says.
• 26:33
  I'm curious what her personality, what her
• 26:35
  personality is like. Do the actions she took make
• 26:37
  sense for her? If you can enrich the
• 26:40
  information, put GF in your message so Gavin can see it.
• 26:43
  Yeah, please do. Tara Olson.
• 26:50
  Yeah. Am I reading that right?
• 26:51
  Anyway, yeah. Please tell me if if you have
• 26:54
  some sort of insight on that server.
• 26:59
  PA is in the house. Austin, TX in the house.
• 27:05
  Amy says there's a person who used to work with her in the
• 27:07
  coffee shop. OK, hopefully you'll check in
• 27:09
  with me. North Carolina hair Gun Barrel
• 27:12
  City, Toledo, OH, Jersey Shore. If you put GF in your comment
• 27:17
  that highlights it for me on my end and it makes it more likely
• 27:21
  that I can see it. Lubbock, TX is in the house.
• 27:26
  Robin says she said she last saw Amy four days before she went
• 27:30
  missing. Yeah, we do understand she.
• 27:38
  Oh, yeah. It was Hannah Kobayashi.
• 27:41
  That's right, Emmy, thank you very much.
• 27:43
  And thanks, Tiff. Yeah, maybe she didn't want to
• 27:50
  be tracked. Yeah.
• 27:51
  She left her phone. Judith saying any thought that
• 27:58
  this might be an intentional disappearance could be that
• 28:00
  she's running away, could be 100%, but I mean, she's at risk,
• 28:07
  right? She has a medical condition.
• 28:12
  We don't know if we don't know what that medical condition is.
• 28:16
  We just understand that that she does have a medical condition.
• 28:23
  Larnold. I'm guessing Larnold is French.
• 28:27
  It is the Arnold Larnold. Is Javi real?
• 28:31
  I think I should address this. I've I've had a couple
• 28:34
  questions. Are Javi and Wanda real?
• 28:40
  Let me let me answer the question this way.
• 28:42
  Is Punxsutawney Phil real course course Javi and Wanda are real.
• 28:48
  Come on, Nick says. I think the info is vague.
• 28:52
  I'm curious what the medical condition is.
• 28:55
  Was it psychiatrist? Also was she a regular Walker in
• 28:59
  that park? I think that, well, we know she
• 29:06
  was an avid hiker. I don't know if she was regular
• 29:09
  to that park or not. But you're right, Nick, we, we
• 29:13
  do, we, we, we have very little information to go on on this.
• 29:19
  Now there was a a candlelight vigil which kind of indicates to
• 29:26
  me maybe it maybe I'm reading it wrong, maybe I'm reading into it
• 29:31
  too much, that maybe they want her to see that people care and
• 29:37
  maybe this is an indication that this was an intentional runaway
• 29:42
  kind of situation. But this was written 2 days ago
• 29:45
  by Warren Peterson in the San Francisco Chronicle covering
• 29:50
  this vigil headline. Candlelight vigil seeks return
• 29:53
  of missing Bay Area coffee shop owner About 100 friends and
• 29:58
  family of a Bay Area coffee shop owner missing from Oakland since
• 30:03
  Wednesday gathered in solidarity Sunday evening as they held out
• 30:07
  hope for her safe return. A candlelight vigil at the
• 30:10
  pergola on the east side of Oakland's Lake Merritt provided
• 30:14
  a sense of community for the loved ones of Amy Hilliard, 52,
• 30:18
  who was last seen around 2:00 PM.
• 30:19
  Wednesday on the 500 block of Radnor Rd. in the Cleveland
• 30:22
  Heights neighborhood. Of course, we know that's been
• 30:24
  updated to 4:30 PM at Diamond Park and the Lake Merritt area
• 30:29
  is where she lived. She lived very close to the
• 30:31
  lake. Quote.
• 30:32
  The mood was grounded in care, connection and hope.
• 30:35
  I'm reading between the lines here, guys.
• 30:37
  It kind of feels like maybe, maybe she intentionally did this
• 30:45
  and they want her to know she can come back.
• 30:47
  She's loved, right? OK.
• 30:50
  The mood was grounded in care, connection and hope.
• 30:52
  Sarah Walks, a longtime friend of Hilliard's, told the
• 30:54
  Chronicle after the vigil. It was a space for people to
• 30:57
  come together, support one another and show up for Amy and
• 31:00
  her family with love and strength.
• 31:02
  Hilliard is co-owner of Farley's Coffee, with locations on Grand
• 31:05
  Ave. near Broadway in Oakland and on 18th St. in Potrero Hill
• 31:10
  on Potrero Hill in San Francisco.
• 31:13
  She's deeply, she's a deeply loved member of this community,
• 31:16
  says Walks, who has known Hilliard since their children,
• 31:19
  now in college, were in preschool together.
• 31:22
  Amy has been a light in this community for so many years
• 31:24
  through the caring intention she brought to Farley's Coffee and
• 31:27
  through the countless people and causes she supported, Jen
• 31:30
  Bushman, A sustainable seafood educator in Oakland, said in an
• 31:34
  Instagram post announcing the vigil.
• 31:37
  She has given so much to Oakland and to all of us who love her.
• 31:41
  The CHP, on behalf of the Oakland PD sent an emergency
• 31:45
  alert cell phones around the Bay Area on Sunday night seeking
• 31:48
  help locating Hilliard. Hundreds of people have united
• 31:52
  in recent state recent days to search for her organizing teams
• 31:56
  to walk hiking trails, canvas neighborhoods and connect with
• 31:59
  local businesses in hopes of finding any information or
• 32:02
  footage that would help Walk set.
• 32:05
  Hilliard is described as a white woman standing at about 5 feet 4
• 32:10
  inches tall and weighing about £120.
• 32:13
  She has blonde hair and Hazel eyes, was last seen wearing a
• 32:16
  white short sleeve shirt, light jeans and white sneakers with
• 32:19
  black stripes. She's considered at risk due to
• 32:22
  an undisclosed medical condition, police said.
• 32:25
  Anyone with info on Hilliard's whereabouts is asked to call
• 32:28
  Oakland police at 510-238-3641. I wonder, and I don't know that
• 32:35
  speculation is even appropriate here, but I wonder if her
• 32:40
  medical condition is such that she's like, I'm just going to,
• 32:43
  I'm just going to call this good.
• 32:45
  I'm going to just go ahead and check out.
• 32:48
  Man, I hope not. Oh, I hope not.
• 32:50
  I hope not. I hope not.
• 32:53
  That is what is going on in the case.
• 32:59
  Let's see. Let me let me hop into your
• 33:05
  comments here. Maybe early Alzheimer's or
• 33:08
  dementia Could be. Yeah.
• 33:11
  I, I, I caught you, Nick. Psychiatric.
• 33:14
  Yep. Oh, Robin has wondered.
• 33:18
  Javi. Wanda.
• 33:18
  Javi, Wanda, what team are you on?
• 33:20
  Team Javi for me. They are both valued and deeply
• 33:25
  important members of my team. Without Javi, how would buttons
• 33:29
  be pushed? How would knobs be turned or
• 33:31
  levers toggled? How?
• 33:36
  And without Wanda, our music director and woman, she's like a
• 33:41
  Hydra. She is able to play so many
• 33:44
  instruments at the same time. She's just amazing, Sherry says.
• 33:50
  I had that question about Javier and Wanda a couple days ago.
• 33:52
  I have very much deduced that they are very real in Gavin's
• 33:55
  head. I'm so good with that.
• 33:58
  Real in my head. No, they are real.
• 34:01
  They are real. Emmy says she never got the
• 34:04
  alert and Javi pulled an April Fool's joke on me.
• 34:08
  Maybe that was what happened. Maybe that is what happened.
• 34:14
  Man, some I think some of you need to refresh your audio
• 34:18
  because I think the I think the sound is working.
• 34:24
  Lucy, Lucy Colon, Gavin. I worked with Amy at the coffee
• 34:31
  shop from 2017 to 2021. Amy is awesome, like involved in
• 34:36
  everything. The first one to organize a
• 34:39
  community event immediately. That's awesome.
• 34:43
  Lucy Gavin used Farley's East Kitchen for people who needed
• 34:48
  food when COVID hit. She's a boss but balanced out by
• 34:52
  her personality, which is so elevated, warm and humble.
• 34:57
  What a terrific. I guess it's just a terrific
• 35:03
  thing to say. Thank you very much.
• 35:06
  And yeah, she would be really, really young for early onset
• 35:11
  Alzheimer's or dementia. But we don't know, right?
• 35:14
  We just don't know. Lucy, I'm so glad that you
• 35:17
  reached out there and glad to glad to know what what Amy was
• 35:23
  like when when you worked for her back back then.
• 35:29
  Yeah. Looks like sound is OK.
• 35:31
  Sound is OK. Looks like Okie Dokie.
• 35:37
  Let's that that's what we have on this case.
• 35:40
  We will keep our eye on it. We'll keep you updated on the
• 35:43
  case. I just, I hate it when people
• 35:46
  are missing. Speaking of missing people,
• 35:48
  there was one thing that I wanted to talk to you about
• 35:50
  before we moved over to, you know, 3 questions in the rest of
• 35:56
  the headlines tonight. And for headlines tonight, as I
• 35:59
  said, we've got an update on Nancy Guthrie, another missing
• 36:02
  person, though that one definitely more nefarious, Tyler
• 36:06
  Robinson, who is being prosecuted for the murder of
• 36:09
  Charlie Kirk. Mickey Steins, who is being
• 36:12
  prosecuted for the murder of Judge Kevin Mullins.
• 36:14
  And Brad Simpson on the hook for the murder of his wife, Suzanne
• 36:21
  Simpson. So we've got a lot to talk
• 36:23
  about, but something I want to show you, we talked yesterday
• 36:26
  about me picking up and going out to Tucson just to, just to
• 36:31
  kind of investigate around to, to hit the street, start talking
• 36:36
  to people, start getting to know people, see what it is that we
• 36:39
  can, that we can figure out. And, and I, I priced what it
• 36:46
  would cost me to do it and it looks like it's going to be
• 36:51
  about about $2500, not including, well, that includes
• 36:57
  travel, hotel and car, right? Of course, I'd have to take time
• 37:03
  off work. So it'd be a little bit more.
• 37:04
  So I just wanted to bring that up to you guys if you want to
• 37:07
  help me get on the road and get out to cover from the road,
• 37:14
  boots on the ground. Some of these cases which could
• 37:17
  still include Nancy Guthrie. A great way to do it is by going
• 37:22
  over to my website and clicking on the Support Me tab.
• 37:26
  PayPal is 100% directory direct support and if I could get some
• 37:32
  support that would come directly to me that could help me pay for
• 37:36
  a trip out to Tucson, I would take that trip.
• 37:40
  I would talk to my bosses at the day job, take some time off and
• 37:44
  go out there and hit the hit the ground.
• 37:46
  I might, I, I could probably even work remotely.
• 37:49
  I could, you know, in the early morning hours out in the West,
• 37:54
  get my day's tasks done and then and then hit the ground running.
• 37:58
  So if you guys would like to help go to my website
• 38:01
  gavinfish.com click on support me and PayPal is the very very
• 38:07
  best way to help me do that all right with that let's let's see
• 38:15
  what's the next step today. Ah yes yes yes yes, yes, yes.
• 38:18
  It's three questions Okie dokie in this segment.
• 38:30
  Y'all if y'all are new here, you send to me I.
• 38:34
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• 38:38
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• 38:41
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• 38:45
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• 38:47
  Just send them to three questions at gavinfish.com.
• 38:52
  It's spelled out THREEQUESTIONS, three questions at
• 38:58
  gavinfish.com. I will endeavour to answer all
• 39:02
  of them, but I get to choose the order in which I answer them.
• 39:05
  That's the deal. That's the deal.
• 39:07
  Yeah. OK, so question #1.
• 39:11
  From Angela. Gavin, have you ever worked with
• 39:14
  a private investigator on any of Well, the, the only private
• 39:22
  investigator that I've worked with and I, we're, we'll both be
• 39:28
  volunteers on the case, right, is Tom Brennan on the Ellen
• 39:33
  Greenberg case. That is 1 where I have worked
• 39:37
  with Tom, a private investigator.
• 39:38
  Tom has over 800 homicide investigations under his belt.
• 39:44
  He's a retired Pennsylvania State homicide detective, and he
• 39:49
  is amazing. So that is the only time I've
• 39:53
  ever worked. No, no, no.
• 39:54
  I've also worked with a private investigator on a case out of
• 40:01
  Georgia where, again, he and I were both.
• 40:06
  Actually, it's two of them. Him and his wife are both former
• 40:11
  state police investigators, and they investigated a case out of
• 40:15
  Georgia, the case of Rochelle Brinson.
• 40:18
  You can see that one on my website by the way.
• 40:21
  We both, well, they handed it over to me to report on it.
• 40:25
  I wouldn't say I worked with them on it.
• 40:26
  So anyway. Oh.
• 40:31
  And the part of the. Next part of the question and
• 40:34
  when do you think a situation case requires one?
• 40:38
  If, if we're talking about the kind of case that we cover on
• 40:42
  this channel, then I would say if police aren't doing their
• 40:48
  job, like in the case of Alan Greenberg, like in the case of
• 40:50
  Rochelle Brinson, it's appropriate to hire or engage a
• 40:56
  private detective for sure. Great question.
• 41:01
  Question #2 from Bonnie. Do you think the favoritism is
• 41:05
  being given to the defense and Tyler Robinson?
• 41:10
  So I haven't kept my finger completely on the pulse on this
• 41:13
  one. I checked the news.
• 41:14
  I read the news on it. Do I think that he's being shown
• 41:19
  favoritism now? I don't think so.
• 41:22
  I I really don't. And I mean by whom are you
• 41:25
  talking about? Like by the judge or by the
• 41:28
  prosecutor? I really don't think so.
• 41:36
  I, I, it always comes down to incentives for me, OK, For a
• 41:40
  judge, their incentive is to not be overturned.
• 41:44
  Their have their decisions not be overturned on appeal.
• 41:48
  So they need to work very, very hard that they follow the law to
• 41:53
  the best of their ability. And remember that the law is
• 41:55
  complex. It's difficult.
• 41:57
  There's always an argument to be made on both sides of a
• 42:01
  decision. There's nothing in the law that
• 42:04
  is concrete, not a single thing. I mean, we're still arguing in
• 42:09
  this country about the First Amendment, the very first right
• 42:14
  codified into the Constitution. And we're still arguing about, I
• 42:19
  mean, there was a Supreme Court case this week.
• 42:22
  So Supreme Court decision this week.
• 42:26
  So nothing is easy under the law.
• 42:30
  Nothing is black and white under the law.
• 42:34
  I think that the I, I don't think that he's being shown
• 42:37
  favours of him, no. But you are welcome to disagree
• 42:42
  and put that disagreement in the comments if you'd like.
• 42:45
  Question #3 is from Diane GI there.
• 42:49
  There's more than one Diane sending in questions here.
• 42:52
  So I decided to do an initial How would you feel about working
• 42:57
  for someone who knows less than you?
• 43:00
  I would feel perfectly normal because that is a normal thing
• 43:03
  that all of us, including people working for me, feel from time
• 43:09
  to time and sometimes permanently.
• 43:12
  I have had jobs where, yeah, I, I have felt that on certain
• 43:20
  things, on certain either tasks or assignments or subject
• 43:26
  matter, that I was the expert in the group.
• 43:32
  That has happened to me so many times over the course of my
• 43:35
  career. I can't even tell you.
• 43:36
  I think it's a perfectly normal thing to feel.
• 43:40
  And, you know, people who volunteer for me, including my
• 43:43
  mods, including Autumn and Robin Mooney, you know, and people who
• 43:49
  are writing for Crime COD, Jake and and Kate, you know, yeah,
• 43:57
  I'm sure they all feel from time to time that I am stupid about
• 44:02
  something. And, and it's perfectly natural.
• 44:05
  I think that as a young man, it used to bother me more than it
• 44:11
  does as an older guy. I mean, I'm, I'm 50 years old
• 44:14
  now. I used to really have a hard
• 44:16
  time with it, but the earlier you can come to the realization
• 44:21
  that it's going to be this way for the rest of your life and
• 44:23
  that it's OK, the happier you will be your entire life.
• 44:31
  Yeah. I'm trying to think of if
• 44:34
  there's ever been a job ever where I felt my, you know, OK,
• 44:40
  this is horrible. One of my first jobs, one of my
• 44:45
  very first jobs, I was 16 years old.
• 44:50
  I was one of those little. Teenager.
• 44:53
  Portrait photographers at JC Penney Portrait Studio JC Penney
• 44:57
  Portrait Studio inside Sunrise Mall in Citrus Heights, CA You
• 45:02
  would bring your baby to get a picture taken by yours truly and
• 45:09
  you would invariably because of the way they scheduled these
• 45:12
  things. There were two studios, there
• 45:15
  were two photographers, and they scheduled four people for every
• 45:18
  15 minutes. It was stupid.
• 45:20
  You would come in with a happy baby.
• 45:23
  You would You would sit down and wait for your appointment to
• 45:26
  come in to to or your photographer to be ready.
• 45:30
  Watching Aladdin, it was always freaking Aladdin, like all that.
• 45:36
  I watched Aladdin so many times and by the time you got your
• 45:43
  babies picture taken, they had had enough.
• 45:45
  They were grumpy, they were hungry, they were crying, they
• 45:47
  had had a dirty diaper. The, I mean, I did this day in
• 45:51
  and day out. My boss, my boss, I, I was a
• 45:57
  senior in high school and this was happening.
• 45:58
  So I was 16 and 17 years old. My boss was the boyfriend of and
• 46:06
  he was, he had graduated high school, but he, he was a year
• 46:10
  ahead of me in high school. We took photography together in
• 46:15
  high school and I thought he was an idiot.
• 46:20
  I thought he was an absolute idiot.
• 46:22
  I mean, he was nice. He was a good guy.
• 46:24
  He's a good guy. I was really happy when my
• 46:28
  friend broke it off with him 'cause she was miserable.
• 46:33
  But anyway, yeah, so like going back to one of my very first
• 46:37
  jobs, like he was the worst photographer ever.
• 46:41
  He was the worst schedule ever. It was just the worst.
• 46:46
  And yeah, somehow I got through that job and enjoyed the job.
• 46:50
  Actually, I enjoyed it quite a bit.
• 46:51
  I was very, I was a kid who loved children.
• 46:55
  I mean, I had to have, I had to grow up and have big family
• 46:58
  because I just love kids so much.
• 47:00
  So being around all those kiddos was awesome.
• 47:02
  So yeah, I, I don't know if you have never felt that you are
• 47:09
  working. For somebody who knows less.
• 47:10
  Than you, I think that you're in the minority.
• 47:13
  You got to be right. You got to be Ah, great
• 47:16
  questions as always guys. Thank you very much for sending
• 47:19
  those in. Don't forget that you can send
• 47:21
  in questions as well to three questions at gavinfish.com,
• 47:24
  three questions to gavinfish.com And now that we have covered
• 47:28
  those questions, let's get into some headlines.
• 47:32
  Here we go. Headlines Okie, Dokie, let's
• 47:43
  come on over. Let's start with Nancy Guthrie,
• 47:47
  shall we? This from the New York Post.
• 47:52
  Now, I know that there are a lot of people out there, including I
• 47:56
  saw Brian Hinton out there kind of checking out the rugged
• 47:59
  terrain. I also know that police officers
• 48:02
  checked all that rugged drain kind of around Nancy Nancy
• 48:06
  Guthrie's house. This written by Emily crane the
• 48:09
  headline says ex Arizona SWAT chief shuts down theory Nancy
• 48:13
  Guthrie was taken through rugged terrain at back of house.
• 48:17
  I think this is kind of obvious but OK.
• 48:20
  A former Arizona SWAT commander has poured cold water on a quote
• 48:24
  highly improbable close quote theory that Nancy Guthrie was
• 48:28
  abducted via rugged terrain at the back of her home, insisting
• 48:32
  whoever was responsible for her disappearance clearly had to go
• 48:36
  out the front. Authorities have repeatedly
• 48:38
  scoured the remote terrain behind Savannah Guthrie's 84
• 48:42
  year old mom's Tucson home since Nancy was first reported missing
• 48:46
  on February 1st, fueling fueling initial speculation that her
• 48:54
  kidnapper could have used a remote track to flee undetected.
• 49:00
  But Bob Krieger, a former Lieutenant who spent nearly 30
• 49:03
  years with the Pima County Sheriff's Office, took News
• 49:06
  Nation's Bryant and on a tour of the area to show just why that
• 49:10
  theory is so unlikely. Quote, there's no way they're
• 49:13
  bringing her back this way. If they got there that way, they
• 49:17
  clearly had to go out the front, Krieger said in an interview
• 49:19
  that aired Tuesday. You can't even see her house
• 49:22
  necessarily. There's just so much brush and
• 49:25
  trees back here, he added of the Catalina Foothills, where
• 49:28
  Nancy's home is located. Give me a second.
• 49:32
  I need to. Wet the old whistle, the ex
• 49:37
  Swat. Commander was filmed traipsing
• 49:39
  through the terrain in search of Nancy's home, arguing it was
• 49:43
  proof those responsible would have struggled among the maze of
• 49:46
  brush, cacti and trees. Just based on her size and
• 49:52
  weight of carrying someone and getting over walls, I don't
• 49:55
  think the back would be practical at all, Krieger said.
• 50:00
  It's not going to be quick and it's going to be loud.
• 50:03
  You're going to get more attention at 1:00 in the morning
• 50:05
  in an area like this. Then you are walking up to
• 50:07
  someone's front door. So there you have it.
• 50:11
  And I, I agree with him. I know, I know that police have
• 50:16
  had to do their due diligence, right?
• 50:17
  They've had to go back there that and make searches and
• 50:19
  everything. And I think that's good to do,
• 50:21
  especially if somebody was stalking Nancy or casing the
• 50:25
  house or seeing what her what her schedule was like, what her
• 50:30
  habits were. Maybe they would leave some sort
• 50:34
  of evidence back there, footprints, maybe some, I don't
• 50:37
  know. So I think it's good that police
• 50:40
  have been back there looking. But I am with Lieutenant, What's
• 50:45
  his name? What's his name?
• 50:47
  Lieutenant Bob Krieger. Did I just?
• 50:52
  Make up the Lieutenant. Part No, no.
• 50:55
  Former Lieutenant Bob Krieger? Yeah, I'm with him.
• 50:57
  They went out the front door. That's where the blood was.
• 51:00
  That's the easiest and quickest escape.
• 51:03
  OK, We were talking about Tyler Robinson.
• 51:06
  This from people.com, written by Liam Quinn in the Charlie Kirk.
• 51:10
  Case legal expert. Weighs in on defense claim
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  bullet doesn't match suspect's rifle.
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  We talked about this a little bit yesterday, right?
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  Charlie Kirk was hit in the neck.
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  A terrible place to get hit. The good news, the silver
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  lining, I think, is that he lost consciousness so quickly that he
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  didn't even feel what hit him. I, I hope that's the case.
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  But anyway, while attorneys for Tyler Robinson claimed the
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  bullet that killed Charlie Kirk couldn't be linked to a rifle
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  allegedly connected to their client, a legal expert tells
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  people an inconclusive Ballistics report is not
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  uncommon. Amen.
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  Hallelujah. That's what we talked about a
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  little bit yesterday. The defense claim is found in a
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  motion to delay Robinson's preliminary hearing and states
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  that the ATF report, quote, was unable to identify the bullet
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  recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr.
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  Robinson. Nima Romani, a former federal
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  prosecutor, says that even if authorities can't conclusively
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  link the bullet to the rifle, it doesn't mean Robinson will be
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  acquitted. Romani pointed to several other
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  pieces of evidence that authorities have submitted,
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  including alleged admissions authorities claimed Robinson
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  made on Discord as potential strengths of the prosecution's
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  case. Quote, it's not like he's
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  necessarily going to walk away from this just because there is
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  an inconclusive Ballistics report, Armani says.
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  But it's certainly a good step in the right direction for the
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  defense. Further, Romani says he believes
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  prosecutors could still, quote, get over reasonable doubt
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  without a conclusive, definitive Ballistics report.
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  An inconclusive report also does not mean the possibility of a
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  match has been ruled out. So, yeah, it, like I just said,
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  everything is complex, right? And what other evidence do they
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  have? Does or do the bullet casings
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  match the gun, right? I know that there was DNA found
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  on the trigger. He's on camera, stuff like that.
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  So there's a lot going on there. So that's that quick update.
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  And as always, there's a link in the description below to all the
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  articles that we are reading today, this from Mountaintop
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  Media. In the Mickey Stein's case,
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  Stein's. Files affidavit seeking judges.
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  Removal from Murder Trial written by Ralph Davis.
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  I actually have this. I actually have the affidavit.
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  Let's let's just look at the affidavit real quick comes now
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  Sean Mickey Stein's being first duly sworn underoath and states
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  as follows his name. He's the defendant.
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  He's over 18. He makes the affidavit.
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  It's his belief that it's fair. Pablo OK paragraph three.
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  It is my belief that I will not be afforded a fair and impartial
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  trial or pretrial proceedings by Judge Corin and seek the
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  designation of a special judge pursuant to Kentucky Revised
• 54:06
  Statute 26A dot O2O on and then paragraph four that yeah it
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  just. Kind of rehashes.
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  All the other stuff, right? In December 2025, they found out
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  that there was a video with Judge Corin next to Judge
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  Mullins. You know, the video also shows
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  Mullins widow in attendance at the meeting.
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  It's my belief that in addition to the meeting shown in the
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  video, there was a companion social or dinner event conducted
• 54:37
  or connected to the meeting. In the video, Mullins has shown
• 54:41
  reporting on his involvement with legislative efforts as well
• 54:45
  as Women's with Dignity Bill. Mullins also highlights his
• 54:49
  recent recovery events and expungement efforts in Letcher
• 54:52
  County. Blah, blah, blah, these are
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  things that we've heard. Judge Corn did not disclose this
• 54:58
  fact to the parties, despite the close connection in time to the
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  events at issue, leading to an appearance of impropriety
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  anyway. So, yeah, he's asking for a
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  special judge in the wake of Judge Corin denying their motion
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  to have him replaced. So we'll keep our eye on that
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  one as well. Maybe it's time.
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  Maybe it's time We have Elizabeth Jones back.
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  Man, it's been too long. Elizabeth is a busy lady, man.
• 55:27
  She is working hard over there at Hillbilly Crime.
• 55:31
  OK, last little update that I want to bring you today comes
• 55:36
  from mysanantonio.com written by Zachary Taylor Wright.
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  Will Brad Simpson finally face murder trial?
• 55:45
  Judge weighs in the status. Hearing for Brad.
• 55:50
  Simpson, the Almost Park man accused of killing his wife,
• 55:53
  Suzanne Simpson, was delayed until May 14th.
• 55:56
  This marks yet another in a long series of delays primarily
• 56:00
  requested by the Behar County District Attorney's Office.
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  However, continues the article, this latest hurdle is shrouded
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  in mystery. There was no motion for
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  continuance filed, no clear documentation explaining why the
• 56:16
  judge ordered a 45 day delay. Let's say I think that's that's
• 56:22
  a typo there for the hearing was unavailable in the Behar County
• 56:27
  District Clerk's Office, and the DA's office says they're unable
• 56:30
  to say whether they asked for this delay.
• 56:32
  Apparently they're bound by the same unusual gag order issued by
• 56:35
  the judge that prevented any family members or witnesses from
• 56:38
  speaking to the press. Quote, there's a gag order in
• 56:41
  place on the Brad Simpson case that prohibits us from
• 56:44
  discussing any aspects of the case with the media.
• 56:47
  The DA's office told my San Antonio.
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  So you will need to contact the 437th District Court directly
• 56:53
  for that information. They reached out but did not
• 56:58
  hear back before publication, which is kind of a typical
• 57:02
  thing. The courts don't do a good job
• 57:05
  of calling back. They go, that's not my job.
• 57:07
  My job is court. So, yeah, 45 day delay in the
• 57:14
  Brad Simpson trial. Now, was there more?
• 57:20
  This was the original 1. I don't think so.
• 57:25
  OK, so that's where we are. I don't he will eventually face
• 57:30
  his murder trial. We just have to be patient.
• 57:33
  Those guys. Are your headlines true crime
• 57:37
  headlines? OK, let's just check.
• 57:48
  In with a couple of your comments before we call it a
• 57:51
  night, Patty Olsen. It could be diabetes, a seizure
• 57:54
  disorder or anything else. Yeah, it could be.
• 57:57
  It could be anything. We don't know what her medical
• 58:01
  condition is. I have no idea.
• 58:05
  Sherry says. I wish I was not so broke, man.
• 58:07
  You and me both. Sherry.
• 58:09
  I would definitely send some money away for the trip to
• 58:11
  Tucson. Thank you so much.
• 58:12
  I, I appreciate that. Just refreshed on me.
• 58:17
  A couple things here. Robin says.
• 58:23
  OMG you're anything? But stupid what you are.
• 58:27
  Is aware you have a capacity to learn and change your mind.
• 58:29
  You're an awesome boss. Well, thank you very much.
• 58:32
  Robin also says sounds like there's a wee bit of trauma from
• 58:36
  that JC Penney portrait studio. Arabian Nights.
• 58:41
  Yeah. Aladdin had just come out on VHS
• 58:47
  and we had one of those little TV's that was like a 13 inch TV
• 58:51
  with a little VCR built into it that it would just play until
• 58:55
  the credits rolled and then it would auto rewind.
• 58:58
  Somebody would go, oh, that needs to play again.
• 58:59
  We play it again. It's just over and over and over
• 59:04
  and over, Miss Chivo's Dragon says.
• 59:09
  I noticed today that there's no way off Nancy's back patio
• 59:13
  without walking through the grass.
• 59:15
  Surely there were no Gurney tracks in the grass on February
• 59:19
  1. Footprints, however.
• 59:21
  Yeah, I I don't. I mean, they could have.
• 59:24
  Taken a Gurney in. The back door and then come out
• 59:27
  the front door, Yeah. I think, I don't think the
• 59:33
  family would have. Thought of that either, right?
• 59:36
  Like see if there are tracks and stuff like that.
• 59:40
  So, yeah, we will. We will.
• 59:44
  We will have to check Ohio Palm, Gavin, perhaps think about
• 59:50
  waiting to travel to cover a court case that won't be
• 59:52
  televised. Yeah, maybe, maybe.
• 59:55
  And if you guys want to contribute to my travel fund,
• 1:00:00
  maybe we can decide that together where I will be going
• 1:00:03
  because I do kind of want to hit the road.
• 1:00:05
  I miss when I started YouTube. I was doing long form videos,
• 1:00:10
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• 1:00:14
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• 1:00:17
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• 1:00:20
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• 1:00:32
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