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- 0:02Hello and welcome to the show. Today's an Art about episode.
- 0:05So expect to hear some noise in the background, particularly the
- 0:07generator that is, you know, rumbling in the distance.
- 0:10But anyway, the windows are up, so hopefully we shouldn't have
- 0:13too much noise bleeding into today's episode.
- 0:16Now today we're going to be looking at cold calling for
- 0:19growing your business. You know how to grow your
- 0:21business by doing cold calling. Now, if you're not familiar with
- 0:24the term cold calling, you don't know what that means.
- 0:26Don't worry, just hang in here. We're going to get it there real
- 0:28quick, but the reason why we're looking at cold calling today is
- 0:31because for the for those of you who are just discovering the
- 0:36show today, when you're done listening to this episode, you
- 0:39know, skip back four or five episodes where we were looking
- 0:42at how a baby lawyer. When I say baby lawyer, I don't
- 0:44mean an actual baby. I just mean somebody who is
- 0:46young as a lawyer, you know, coming into the business, trying
- 0:49to start the business on their own.
- 0:51We came up with a couple of episodes with ideas for how
- 0:56people who are coming into the legal space or people who are
- 0:58open their trying to open their consultancy practice or trying
- 1:01to look for ways that people like that can get clients.
- 1:06And I think we started off by prospecting, defining what
- 1:10prospecting is. And then from there we moved
- 1:12into networking, networking as a form of prospecting.
- 1:15And the next one I was going to tackle was cold calling.
- 1:18And then it occurred to me that there are a whole bunch of you
- 1:20listening to this podcast right now who do not even know what
- 1:23cold calling means, even though chances are some of you do it
- 1:28every day or some of you have done it at some point in the
- 1:30past. So today's episode is just
- 1:33dedicated to cold calling. You know, what is cold calling?
- 1:36Have you been doing it? How can you do it?
- 1:38How can you use it to grow your business?
- 1:39So that's what we're going to be doing.
- 1:41So we're going to be ditching the baby lawyer example for now.
- 1:45We might come back to that case study again, but for now, no
- 1:48more baby lawyer. So cold calling for your
- 1:52business. Before we continue, if you'd
- 1:55love to connect for a strategy session for a business audit or
- 1:58because you have a few questions that you want me to answer,
- 2:00that's no problem. Reach out to me on WhatsApp.
- 2:03The phone number is 08064662140. The country code is +234.
- 2:08For those of you who are not Nigerian, I'm on LinkedIn as
- 2:11Tavishima IED. That's my name.
- 2:13I'm the host of the show. So now the definition of cold
- 2:16calling. Cold calling just means you are
- 2:19talking to total strangers. Now you see why I say some of
- 2:23you have done it in the past even though you didn't know.
- 2:25So if you're one of those people who likes to walk up on
- 2:27strangers in, you know, a Kesha City mall, for those of you
- 2:30based in Lagos, you know, maybe you have a travel agency and
- 2:34you're trying to take advantage of the fact that people are
- 2:36trying to Jack while they're trying to leave Nigeria.
- 2:38So you just stroll up to Eketa City more.
- 2:41You see a man with his kids, you just walk up to him and you
- 2:44start trying to have a conversation about whether he
- 2:46wants to Jack by. So if you've been doing that,
- 2:49that is called calling. Cold calling is you just walk up
- 2:52to a stranger cold. You don't know the person, the
- 2:56person doesn't know you. The person has no preview of
- 2:59context about you. You have made no prior contact
- 3:02to that person. You guys have no emotional
- 3:04connection. You guys have no existing
- 3:07relationship. The thing is, you're just
- 3:10guessing. The person might be interested
- 3:12in your product or service. So you say, yeah, let me just
- 3:14try my luck. So you walk up to people in the
- 3:16street, that's called calling. You walk up to somebody at the
- 3:19Kesha City Mall, that's called calling.
- 3:21Although that kind of cold calling nowadays is called
- 3:23canvassing. When you're using your two legs,
- 3:25you walk up and down and you're talking to people, that's cold
- 3:28calling. Although nowadays it's called
- 3:30canvassing. So in most parts of the world,
- 3:34Europe, whereas America, when they say cold calling, they like
- 3:38to limit it, to limit it to when you actually pick up the phone
- 3:43and call somebody who is a total stranger.
- 3:45So the person that you're bossing, the guy doesn't know
- 3:47you, the babe doesn't know you, no prayer context.
- 3:49You guys don't know each other from Adam or Eve.
- 3:52No prayer contact, no emotional connection, no existing
- 3:55relationship, nothing. You just see the phone number
- 3:58somewhere. You think this person might be
- 4:00interested in my program and service?
- 4:01Let me just buzz the person. Let me try my luck.
- 4:03Let me see how far. So that is cold calling.
- 4:08Yeah. So that's it.
- 4:10Some people are going to get hung up on the fact of whether
- 4:12it is phone call or not. But for the purposes of this
- 4:16episode, I want you guys to know that the thing that makes a cold
- 4:19call cold is this whole thing of prior context, prior contact,
- 4:26prior knowledge, prior emotional relationship, all this prayer
- 4:30thing. In cold calling, there's no
- 4:32prior nothing. I do not know you before.
- 4:35I know nothing about your context.
- 4:37You know nothing about me. I've never contacted you before.
- 4:40You've never contacted me before.
- 4:41That's what makes it cold. So it's not the matter of the
- 4:44technology. Now, the reason why I'm
- 4:47stressing this is because in the old days, in the old and old and
- 4:51old and old days, cold calling was when you will walk around
- 4:54and go and knock on somebody's door, their office or their
- 4:57house. You know, I met them before.
- 5:00You're trying to do business with them like Jehovah's
- 5:02Witness. So back in the 80s now in Niger,
- 5:05Jehovah's Witnesses, they used to walk all over the place
- 5:07knocking on people's doors. I think because of security
- 5:09issues, maybe they don't do that again because you know how
- 5:12Nigeria is now, you go and knock on somebody's door and you get
- 5:16shot or maybe they'll set the dogs on you because everybody's,
- 5:20you know, everybody's on, on red alert nowadays.
- 5:23So they don't do it again. So that's cold calling.
- 5:25You just walk up to a stranger's house, you knock on the door,
- 5:27boom, boom, boom, hello is your daddy and tell him that so, so
- 5:32so wants to see him. You go, you come out, your daddy
- 5:35looks at the person. You know, they've never met each
- 5:38other before. People are total strangers.
- 5:40That is cold calling. So it's not about the
- 5:41technology. It's not about whether you walk
- 5:44into a Ketchup City mall or you knock on somebody's door or you
- 5:46pick up the phone. The thing is just that you guys
- 5:49are strangers. I don't know you.
- 5:50You don't know me. I've never contacted you.
- 5:53You've never contacted me. No emotional connection.
- 5:56I don't feel you yourself. You don't feel me.
- 5:58No prior relation, relation, no prior relationship.
- 6:01I don't know who you are. You don't know who I am.
- 6:02I don't know your brother, your mother, your sister.
- 6:05You don't know me. So that's what makes it cold.
- 6:08Now some of you are going to say, can this kind of thing work
- 6:12for green business? Is this thing workable?
- 6:14Is it possible? The answer is yes, it does work.
- 6:19If it didn't work, nobody would be doing it.
- 6:23Granted in the UK and in America, the flavour that people
- 6:28prefer depends on the industries.
- 6:31So in solar sales, for instance, in America, they do cold
- 6:33calling, but that one is knocking on doors.
- 6:36They called on door knocking. So all the people who are
- 6:39selling solar now you jump inside the car, you drive to the
- 6:42estate, maybe it's lucky phase two or something.
- 6:44You park the van at the beginning of the estate.
- 6:47You get inside. You will now go and start
- 6:48knocking on doors. You say, why are you Kunle?
- 6:51Start from door one and knock to door 10.
- 6:54Cammy, you start from you go left, start from door 15, knock
- 6:59on to door 25. You distribute yourself.
- 7:01You just be knocking, knocking, knocking, talking to people,
- 7:03handing out Flyers. So in America, solar sales, in
- 7:06some parts of the country, that's how they run it.
- 7:10I think it would be a good idea and I think it might work in
- 7:11Nigeria, I think, but I don't, I've never, the solar client
- 7:17that I had, they didn't have a massive sales team, was just a
- 7:21four person sales team. So that's why I didn't bring it
- 7:24up because if you have only four sales people and you send your 4
- 7:28sales people out into the field doing that, it's time intensive.
- 7:31It means no work is going to get done at the office.
- 7:34But I suspect that it might work if you're into solar, that you
- 7:37drive to an estate, let's say like Sun City in Abuja for
- 7:41instance, you drive to Sun City, you park your van, you will just
- 7:44be going from door to door. It's time intensive, but I think
- 7:46you can work anyway. So yes, it's workable.
- 7:50People do it in different parts of the world in different
- 7:52industries. So for solar and for insurance,
- 7:55they do door knocking, roof insurance, they do door to door.
- 8:00But that's America in the UK cold calling.
- 8:05Now on this phone call, you'll just be minding your business.
- 8:08Now you know you're just chilling trying to watch Netflix
- 8:10or something. Some number will call you say
- 8:12who is this or no number maybe just answer.
- 8:15You answer. Then the person says hello, is
- 8:17this Tavashima? I say yes, this is Tavashima.
- 8:18Who am I speaking with? Ohio Tavashima, we're calling
- 8:21you because we have won 5 lbs Something, something something
- 8:25to qualify for this. Click on this and send your
- 8:27personal information to that, that I will just cut the call
- 8:30prep, said the idiots. That's cold calling.
- 8:33They're trying to sell you something.
- 8:35So in the UK, that's how lots of people cold call.
- 8:37Now in Nigeria, cold calling by phone, lots of people don't do
- 8:41it. I've only received a cold call
- 8:43once and funny enough was from the government.
- 8:46They were trying to get what were they trying to do?
- 8:50So they were trying to get opinions about the African Free
- 8:54Trade Continental Treaty, I think that was under when Buhari
- 8:58was still in government. And I thought, OK, that was
- 9:01interesting because I don't think you should be calling
- 9:03people up cold like that because it's a highly specific law and
- 9:06you can't expect the average man to know what's up and to even
- 9:09understand the law in the 1st place.
- 9:10So I know what's up because I'm a lawyer and I know some people
- 9:13who have been following, sorry, I used to be a lawyer.
- 9:15I know some people who follow and that sort of thing.
- 9:18So cold calling by picking up the phone in Nigeria, not very
- 9:21popular, but I expect more of that to happen because people
- 9:23are already sending cold texts. So you're minding your business,
- 9:27you're trying to watch Netflix. Next thing a text message will
- 9:30come in, bring him. Are you thinking of travelling
- 9:32to South Africa soon? If so, text 405 to 990 to
- 9:37qualify for 10% off something, something.
- 9:39So those, those are cold texts, Those are promotional texts.
- 9:44They're sending the text to the stranger me that I'm receiving
- 9:47the, the text message. I don't know the person sending
- 9:50it. The person that is even sending
- 9:51the text message to me, the person doesn't even know it,
- 9:54doesn't know me, have no prior context.
- 9:56I don't know you before, no prior contact, I've never
- 9:59contacted you before, no relationship, nothing.
- 10:03Those are cold texts. So in Nigeria, we've already
- 10:05started doing cold texting. Even if we haven't started doing
- 10:08cold calling, then let's see what else.
- 10:12By the way, the point I'm just trying to make is I see it can't
- 10:14work. It depends which part of the
- 10:17world are you in, which country, which culture, you know, all
- 10:21those sorts of things. What are the business
- 10:23conventions going on? So yes, it can't work.
- 10:25But for the thing to work best, it requires that you do some
- 10:30research and some targeting ahead of time.
- 10:34I repeat, especially for those of you who like to walk into a
- 10:38Ketchup City mall. You say a man with his children,
- 10:40you have a travel agency. You go and walk up to the guy
- 10:43and say, oh, Sir, are you thinking of travelling to Saudi
- 10:45Arabia soon or do you want to Jack back?
- 10:48If you want this thing to work, walking up to total strangers or
- 10:53sending text messages to total strangers, sending emails to
- 10:56total strangers, knocking on the door of total strangers.
- 10:59It requires some researching and it requires some targeting.
- 11:04OK, so research the opportunity. Research the prospect before you
- 11:08knock on that door, before you send a text message, before you
- 11:13approach them. In fact, for this, you can just
- 11:16see more people. And yes, I have been approached
- 11:18at the Kercher City Mall. That's back when I was in Lagos.
- 11:21But then I didn't have kids, you know, so was my, my, my younger
- 11:24brother. He had kids that he started
- 11:25early, by the way, starting early man, it's a huge benefit
- 11:29because like now my younger brother, his kids are now 15 and
- 11:3313. So for him, he's at a very
- 11:36chilled stage in life. If I, if you call my brother by
- 11:408:00 in the morning, he'll answer because he has already
- 11:42started work, because everybody has left the house, wifey has
- 11:45left the house. Children are in secondary
- 11:47school. 8:00 AM sharp. He's ready at his desk.
- 11:50He has started work. In fact, sometimes by 8:00 AM,
- 11:52he has already been working for one hour, unlike me, 8:00 AM I'm
- 11:56still doing primary school runs. So if you have the choice, I
- 11:59have your kids early. Yeah.
- 12:01What was I? So I'm not chilling at Ikeja
- 12:04City Mall now with my brother's kids.
- 12:07You know, me and my, my wife, she was my girlfriend at the
- 12:12time. You know, we'll take the kids
- 12:13just so that my brother and his wife can, you know, spend some
- 12:15quality time now and people just roll up on us and then start
- 12:18talking about travel and jackpot and everything.
- 12:21So I am one of those people who say cold calling Eketa City Mall
- 12:28Capital. NO, don't do that.
- 12:31Do not do that because it is too cold, too cold.
- 12:36You haven't done any research. You haven't done any targeting.
- 12:41You don't have any reason to suspect that this person might
- 12:44need your product or your service.
- 12:47So do some prior research before you start approaching total
- 12:50strangers just to give you a small hint or a small leg up
- 12:55that they might need your product or your service.
- 13:00Then also when you're going to do cold calling it, you need to
- 13:05have a simple conversation built around the problem statement
- 13:09because lots of people who do cold calling like the Jehovah's
- 13:12Witness back in the 80s, who just roll up and say start
- 13:17talking about how Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior and
- 13:19everything. You know, don't just roll up on
- 13:21someone and say Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior.
- 13:23You know, ask the person first. You know, I heard about Jesus.
- 13:28Would you be interested in having him as your personal Lord
- 13:30and Savior as he asked a question?
- 13:32A person says, oh, no thank you, I'm already a Christian.
- 13:34They say, oh, OK, oh bless you. And then you have a small prayer
- 13:38and then you leave because you're looking for people who
- 13:41have not heard about Jesus Christ.
- 13:43So it's the same thing. They Jack by person.
- 13:46You don't just roll up and then start trying to sell me jackpot
- 13:48services and travel services at least start a simple
- 13:51conversation built around your problem statement because the
- 13:55goal is you're trying to figure out is the person interested and
- 13:58does the person want to learn more?
- 14:01Because when you show up called to someone, or you send a text
- 14:05message called to someone, or an e-mail called to someone, or you
- 14:09knock on somebody's door called, you start trying to sell.
- 14:12You are a complete pest. You're a total nuisance and
- 14:15nobody wants to deal with you. See this reason why people say
- 14:19cold calling doesn't work? It works.
- 14:22You're just doing it wrong. You're rolling up on people, no
- 14:26research, no targeting, and you're trying to sell them
- 14:29immediately. So of course you're a pest.
- 14:33Now my wife, she will just ignore and start walking away.
- 14:38I try to be a little bit more polite.
- 14:40You know, I'll collect the flyer and say thank you, I'm not
- 14:42interested. But some of you don't take the
- 14:44hint. You continue to talk and to talk
- 14:46and to talk and what's the point?
- 14:53The wife is walking away. The husband is trying to be
- 14:55polite about it. You're still trying to talk in
- 14:57front of you. You will see the husband roll up
- 15:00your flyer and throw it in the dustbin.
- 15:04And you still want to continue with that.
- 15:07Just simple researching, simple targeting around the
- 15:10opportunities, around the prospects, around the context.
- 15:14Start off the conversation with a simple problem statement and
- 15:19try to figure out if they're interested, if they want to
- 15:22learn more. That's all you need to do when
- 15:24you're trying to do cold. So let's go back to this Jaguar
- 15:29Agency travel agency thing, Ikeja City Mall, for those of
- 15:32you who are in Lagos, by the way, I don't know if the place
- 15:34is still called the Kerja City Mall 'cause I haven't been in
- 15:36Lagos in a very long time. So if the name has changed, you
- 15:38know, pardon me, but when I was in Lagos, it used to be called
- 15:41the Kerja City Mall. It was next to Alausa and they
- 15:44had, you know, some nice pizza places, you know, clothes shops,
- 15:48what else, You know, some nice, nice, nice, good stuff, good
- 15:51stuff. I think they even had the cinema
- 15:54then, you know, then it was brand new.
- 15:56So it was all the rage. Ikeja City Mall.
- 16:00So if you just roll up on strangers like that, the result
- 16:05is you're going to get plenty of rejection.
- 16:08I'm trying to be polite, but most people are not me.
- 16:10Like I said, my wife will just turn and walk away.
- 16:13There's some people who even hiss and walk away at you.
- 16:16There's going to be plenty of rejection, plenty of snubbery.
- 16:20Some people might even insult you.
- 16:23Like ah, you seem like an educated person.
- 16:25Why can't you go and get a real job Now?
- 16:27That one hasn't happened to me, but I've heard it happened to
- 16:29some people. Somebody would say you're,
- 16:31you're very articulate for a young man.
- 16:33You seem well educated, you know.
- 16:35Now did you go where, where did you go to school?
- 16:36I went to OAU. How OAU, That's a very, very
- 16:39good university. How can't, why can't you get a
- 16:41proper job instead of walking around up and down like this in,
- 16:46in traffic, You know, have you thought about that?
- 16:48I've had, I've had those sorts of things say to some people,
- 16:50but nobody has told me that. And of course people are
- 16:53rejecting you, snobbing you anyhow, insulting you up and
- 16:55down. Of course, next thing is low
- 16:57morale. When your morale is low, it's
- 16:59just journal disenchantment. So that's how you wake up one
- 17:03day and be like, whoa, I don't have time for insult today, Let
- 17:07me just relax, I beg. And of course, by doing that,
- 17:11your business is not going to grow.
- 17:14And then you wake up the next day and you're even under more
- 17:16pressure because you didn't do any prospecting yesterday.
- 17:19You didn't talk to any potential client yesterday.
- 17:22You've wasted one month. You're closer to the you're
- 17:27closer to the end of the month, you're closer to school fees,
- 17:29you're closer to house rent, you're closer to, you know,
- 17:31whatever, but you haven't done any business activity.
- 17:35So that's a result if you just roll up on people code like
- 17:37that. So instead you should be heading
- 17:41to wherever it is you head. If you own a jackpot or a travel
- 17:44agency, a travel agency and you're trying to take advantage
- 17:48of this old jackpot thing. By the way, in case you haven't
- 17:52figured out jackpot is not new. It's just that it, it comes in
- 17:57waves. It comes in waves, you know, So
- 18:03like, I remember when I was in, I think I was in GSS, maybe I
- 18:10was like when I was in GSS 2 and when I was in GSS 2 here, you
- 18:15know, we just resumed. And then, you know, some people
- 18:17are not there. Where's Chukuma?
- 18:18Oh, Chukuma is in Philippines. Hey, where is Nana?
- 18:21OK, Nana is in America. OK, where is Michael?
- 18:24OK, Michael is in Italy. Where is this?
- 18:26Where is that? You know, so the thing just
- 18:28comes in waves. So like all my addresses to some
- 18:30people just evaporated like that.
- 18:32People just miss because, you know, military, government's
- 18:35country was hot, you know, things like that.
- 18:37And then I think like towards my senior secondary school, I think
- 18:41that was when like medical doctors started to just
- 18:43disappear. Where is doctor Susan?
- 18:45So he has moved to Saudi Arabia. Where is, you know, so he has
- 18:49moved to Cuba. Where is doctor this?
- 18:50Where is doctor that He has moved to America, He has moved
- 18:53here. So he's just waves.
- 18:55He comes and goes and comes and goes.
- 18:56But Jackpot has always been a thing.
- 18:57But you know, the name Jackpot is just new.
- 19:00So where was I now? So instead of just going to
- 19:03Eketa City Mall and then rolling up on total strangers, do some
- 19:07research. Remember I said if you want cold
- 19:09calling to work, do some research.
- 19:12Do some targeting around the opportunities and around the
- 19:14prospects. So ask yourself who might be
- 19:17interested in the product or the service.
- 19:22The answer to the question will determine where you're supposed
- 19:24to go to talk to strangers, The kind of opportunities that you
- 19:28will talk about when you talk to strangers, and the kind of
- 19:31conversations that you will engage in when you talk to
- 19:33strangers. So in my own opinion, if you
- 19:37want a travel agency, instead of going to Ketchup City Mall, wake
- 19:40up and ask yourself who might be interested.
- 19:41One answer that I can give right now is that visa applicants
- 19:44might be interested in your product or your service.
- 19:48People who have actually gone to go and do something to show that
- 19:52they're trying to check out, that they're trying to escape
- 19:55from Niger. You should be looking for visa
- 19:58applicants. So be running your Instagram
- 20:01advertisements and targeting people.
- 20:04Who have recently applied for a visa or who might want to apply
- 20:08for a visa or who have visited a visa office or you know,
- 20:12something like that. The people who respond to those
- 20:17adverts, you have now generated leads that you can now start
- 20:22reaching out to. OK, well in those cases that's
- 20:23not really cold calling because they have done something true
- 20:26that they might be interested. But you get my point.
- 20:29The first question should always be who might be interested.
- 20:32So visa applicants, how are we going to capture visa applicants
- 20:35online? Then physically in Abuja, you
- 20:39can go to visa application offices because since in Nigeria
- 20:46everybody's trying to escape and nobody respects us, what they do
- 20:49is that they make all of us queue outside.
- 20:51I mean, it's the most degrading crap that you can go through.
- 20:55But I know you have to, well, you can pay for what's it
- 20:58called. Is it expedited or something
- 21:00where they let you into the building?
- 21:01But bottom line is, I don't know how it works in Lagos now, but
- 21:03if you go to Abuja, like in Central area, if you're in
- 21:08Central district and you go past what's this place called?
- 21:12It's before, before Access Bank, before Chelsea Hotel and Access
- 21:16Bank. There's one of those visa
- 21:17places. Every time you go there, every
- 21:20time in the morning, in the afternoon, people are just
- 21:22queuing outside under the sun or in the rain because we're all
- 21:25trying to escape Niger. So whether it's a Schengen visa
- 21:30or UK visa or this visa or that visa, you know, everybody's
- 21:33trying to cut out. If you go to those places,
- 21:37presumably those people might be interested in your jackpot or
- 21:41your travel services. And it would not be strange for
- 21:46you to roll up on somebody who is there with his children and
- 21:50start these conversations. Because at least now the person
- 21:53is in front of a travel visa something office, he's trying to
- 21:58pursue Schengen visa. The person might be open to a
- 22:01conversation. Now remember what I said for
- 22:05call calling. You don't just show up and then
- 22:07try to sell. So don't go outside these Visa
- 22:09offices and then start trying to sell your travel services, your
- 22:12jackpot services. We should try and figure out if
- 22:16they're interested. Your messaging should be nice
- 22:18and simple and straight to the point.
- 22:20And remember, I keep saying it on the podcast that sales or
- 22:23selling is a conversation. So we should be engaging them in
- 22:27conversation. Is this your first time applying
- 22:31for a Visa, Sir? Or Ma or mummy or daddy, if
- 22:36they're an elderly person. That is an OK way to start the
- 22:40conversation. Now they know that you're there
- 22:43trying to sell them something. But this is not, and this is not
- 22:47too intrusive to just walk up and say this is your first time
- 22:50applying for a visa. The person will say yes or the
- 22:54person will say no. Another question is OK, Sir, Are
- 22:56you sure you have all your visa documents with you?
- 23:00The reason why I'm giving you this one is because somebody has
- 23:02actually rolled up to me and asked me these kind of questions
- 23:05before and the person turned out to be a very helpful individual.
- 23:08I told the guy that you know, look, I don't need your services
- 23:11and everything, but I really appreciate all you've done.
- 23:14And guys like, hey, no Allah, no problem.
- 23:16Just collect my phone number. This is my flyer, you know,
- 23:19anybody just connect them to me. And the way I take care of you
- 23:24is the same way I take care of them.
- 23:25And I said OK, no Allah, no problem.
- 23:27And I have the guys contact details.
- 23:29So you see how it works. The guy didn't come off as a
- 23:32nuisance. They say, oh, hello, Sir.
- 23:34This is your first time applying for a visa.
- 23:37So no. I've applied for a visa in the
- 23:39past, but that was a decade ago. So yeah, I'm out of touch.
- 23:42Do you have all your visa documents?
- 23:44Say yes, I complied with all these things I printed out.
- 23:47Or see the e-mail that they send you, the e-mail that is labeled
- 23:50something, something VN. So, so, so, So I say yes.
- 23:53I say, OK, that's some things that they didn't put in that
- 23:55e-mail say. Really.
- 23:57Yes, when you go inside, they will ask you to do this, they'll
- 23:59ask you to do this, ask you to do that.
- 24:01Oh, but I don't have this. That is not a problem, Sir.
- 24:03You can just go to that cyber cafe over there, sign in on your
- 24:06phone, and then you will print whatever the document you need
- 24:10and say, oh, really say yes, it's not a problem, Sir.
- 24:12The print out is just 29 per copy.
- 24:14That's the Cyber Cafe over here. So let's just go.
- 24:18I'll talk to the security guard so you don't miss your space on
- 24:20the queue. You know, that kind of thing.
- 24:22You can see now helpful conversation.
- 24:26I remember the episodes that we spoke about elicitation and
- 24:29qualification. From having all these
- 24:30conversations, you're now going to be able to be getting small,
- 24:33small things about where this person is applying to, whether
- 24:37they're travelling for business, whether they're trying to cut
- 24:40out of the country, whether they're travelling for pleasure,
- 24:43you know, And it's from there that you'll be able to make a
- 24:45proposal about, oh, we have this package for business class, We
- 24:49have this package for family class.
- 24:51We have this package for one way jackpot never come back because
- 24:56some of these jackpot people, what they do is I think you need
- 24:59to have a certain kind of balance in your bank account.
- 25:03I can't remember how much it was, but it was one of my
- 25:05classmates. I was travelling and the gist I
- 25:07had was that he had like 35. Was it 85 M or 35 MI?
- 25:10Can't remember. Sure.
- 25:12By my own opinion, I was thinking if you can raise like
- 25:14between 35 and 85 M, like why are you running away now?
- 25:17Like you can stay back and do something.
- 25:19But that's just my own opinion. So there's some people who say,
- 25:23sure, no problem, you don't have that 35 M, No problem.
- 25:26We have guarantors who will put that 35 M in your account, but
- 25:31you must return it to us. And of course, when you jackpot
- 25:34and you get to the UK and you start working, you owe us a
- 25:36certain percentage of your salary or, you know, whatever
- 25:39you have to pay us back, that sort of thing.
- 25:42So it's from all these conversations.
- 25:43Is this your first time travelling, applying for a visa,
- 25:45Sir? Are you sure you have all your
- 25:47visa requirements? Oh, by the way, I noticed it's a
- 25:49Schengen visa, you know, business or pleasure or
- 25:52something. It's from all those
- 25:53conversations, you'll be able to figure out all these things and
- 25:56you'll know which of your services to now propose to the
- 25:59person. And you have to engage in all
- 26:02these conversations because there's some people who are
- 26:05trying to Jack back. But that 35 M, they have the 35
- 26:08M, so they don't need your money.
- 26:09They have the money complete in their bank account, but they
- 26:12might need you for something else, you know, maybe they don't
- 26:15know how to, I don't know, the most efficient way to fly, I
- 26:21guess because there's some people who don't like like
- 26:24layover, you know, you know, me and my, my family were not at
- 26:27that level yet where we can just do, you know, fly like big boys.
- 26:31So we still do that whole layover thing.
- 26:32You know, you go and land in London and you wait like 7 hours
- 26:35for the next flight, you know, blah, blah.
- 26:37So some people have the money and they don't like that 7 hour
- 26:39wait or that 2 hour wait. The one is look, how can you
- 26:42just connect me to the sharpest whatever?
- 26:45So I go there the most direct way as possible.
- 26:47I don't care about the money. And then of course the big, big
- 26:50boys like Dan, go to them. They'll just chatter the flights
- 26:52direct, you know, just take me to Australia straight.
- 26:55Don't do any layaway, don't do any anything.
- 26:59So where was I? So yes, cold calling works, but
- 27:06if you're going to roll up on strangers, do some researching,
- 27:09do some targeting around the opportunities, around the
- 27:11prospects. Don't just walk up the people
- 27:13around them. If you walk up the people around
- 27:15them, they will insult your life, they will snub you, you
- 27:17know, low morale. So who might be interested in my
- 27:22product or my service? Where might they be?
- 27:24Go there. Start trying to call there.
- 27:26So for you people who are trying to sell travel, stop going to
- 27:29the Keja City Mall, stop going to Grand Square, stop going to,
- 27:34you know, whatever mall it is in whichever part of the city, go
- 27:38to all those places where visa applicants already are
- 27:40confirmed. Try and have simple
- 27:42conversations with them. If you don't know how to start.
- 27:45The one that somebody used on me, This is a good way.
- 27:47Is this your first time applying for a visa?
- 27:48Sir, it's not a bad way. Are you sure you have all your
- 27:52documents, All your visa documents?
- 27:55These are very good conversation starters and you're trying to
- 27:59show yourself to be a helpful resource.
- 28:01Make sure you have all your contact information ready.
- 28:04Make sure you have your flyer, your everything, your business
- 28:06card, and you have your simple sales pitch.
- 28:08Once you've figured out what it is that the person needs, that
- 28:12way you're going to be able to generate leads that you can
- 28:16pursue that you can chase later, or you might be able to build
- 28:20some useful contacts, some youthful relationships later on
- 28:23so that you might end up doing business with the person later
- 28:28on. Because like I said, the guy was
- 28:30a very helpful chap. And you know, it's not as if I'm
- 28:33going to refer him to everybody. But I mean, to be honest, if any
- 28:37of my friends call me to say, hey, what's up?
- 28:40I beg, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here.
- 28:41I'm in the binds. Like, do you know anybody?
- 28:44He seemed to be a helpful resource.
- 28:45I said, OK, look, I don't know this guy personally, but the
- 28:48last time I was there, this is how he helped me and this and
- 28:50this and this. So I don't know.
- 28:51Just call the geisha. If he's around, just call him up
- 28:54and see. So you never know.
- 28:56Call, call him. You can work for your business.
- 28:59It can help you grow your business.
- 29:01It's tough. So it's not for everyone, but
- 29:05don't be like all those people who say cold calling never
- 29:08works. It can work.
- 29:10Just make sure you do small research, apply some common
- 29:13sense. Meet people where they might
- 29:16already be interested in your product or your service.
- 29:19Meet them at the right context. Start up with a general
- 29:22conversation. Don't start up trying to sell
- 29:24them something immediately. So that's it.
- 29:27That's how I can get cold. Cold calling to work for your
- 29:29business. So I spoke about Jehovah's
- 29:31Witnesses. Yeah, that's not a business.
- 29:32And I spoke about a Japan travel agencies.
- 29:36But you know, whatever it is you do, I'm sure there's a way that
- 29:39you can make it work. Remember, if you'd love to
- 29:41connect for a strategy session or for a business audit or you
- 29:44have a bunch of questions, then reach out to me on WhatsApp.
- 29:48The phone number is 08064662140. The country code is +234.
- 29:55Then I'm on LinkedIn and Establishima Ayede, thank you
- 29:58very much for your time and attention.
- 29:59I'll catch you guys at the next episode.
- 30:01And until then, May God continue to bless the work of your hands.
- 30:05I'll catch you guys.