Latest / Wits & Weights | Strength & Fat Loss Over 40 / Why Daily Weigh-Ins Help Fat Loss (Even When the Scale Lies) | Ep 276
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- 0:01Philip Pape: You step on the scale every morning, hoping to see progress from all your hard work.
- 0:05Philip Pape: Some days you're elated, others devastated.
- 0:09Philip Pape: But what if neither reaction is even necessary?
- 0:12Philip Pape: Today we're using an engineering framework that will transform how you look at progress tracking forever.
- 0:17Philip Pape: You'll discover why obsessing over daily numbers is rather pointless.
- 0:21Philip Pape: Yet tracking them is essential, whether you're trying to lose fat, gain muscle or just maintain a healthy weight.
- 0:28Philip Pape: Understanding this one principle will give you clarity and confidence about tracking that you've never had before.
- 0:49Philip Pape: Welcome to Wits and Weights, the podcast that blends evidence and engineering to help you build smart, efficient systems to achieve your dream physique.
- 0:53Philip Pape: I'm your host, philip Pape, and today we're exploring how the engineering concept of signal-to-noise ratio can change your approach to tracking and tracking progress and measuring progress.
- 1:05Philip Pape: Recent research confirms that daily weigh-ins lead to better adherence and outcomes for fat loss than even weighing five times a week or less.
- 1:15Philip Pape: Yet we also know that individual daily weights are meaningless due to natural fluctuations in your scale weight.
- 1:22Philip Pape: Today, you're going to learn how to resolve this apparent contradiction and apply it not just to weight tracking, but every aspect of your fitness journey.
- 1:31Philip Pape: Now, before we get into it, if you're ready to start tracking your weight and your nutrition properly.
- 1:37Philip Pape: One of my favorite tools is called Macrofactor.
- 1:39Philip Pape: It is what I use.
- 1:40Philip Pape: My clients use.
- 1:41Philip Pape: It's the only app on the market that not only logs your food, it calculates your dynamic metabolism so that it can give you targets for calories and macros each week, unlike other apps that simply allow you to log the data.
- 1:55Philip Pape: So if you download Macrofactor from the app store, please use my code, witsandweights.
- 1:59Philip Pape: All spelled out, all one word, if you want to try that out for free.
- 2:03Philip Pape: Macrofactor has the most advanced trend weight and expenditure algorithms of any app.
- 2:08Philip Pape: It's super fast and it does all the complex math that we're going to discuss today.
- 2:12Philip Pape: It does it automatically.
- 2:13Philip Pape: So go get Macrofactor link in the show notes.
- 2:16Philip Pape: Use my code WITSANDWEIGHTS to support me, and here we go.
- 2:21Philip Pape: Let's start by addressing something that might seem like a contradiction.
- 2:24Philip Pape: I mentioned in the intro that there is research.
- 2:29Philip Pape: There's a study that was reviewed in the Dr Bill Campbell's research review recently.
- 2:34Philip Pape: I actually have a short YouTube video about it if you check out my channel at Wits and Weights and it shows that people who weigh themselves every day it actually compared seven days to five days and it showed that the seven days themselves every day.
- 2:44Philip Pape: It actually compared seven days to five days and it showed that the seven days was more successful at losing fat and maintaining it long-term, let alone weighing even less than that.
- 2:52Philip Pape: And yet at the same time and here's where we have to have two thoughts in our head we also know that daily weight fluctuations have nothing to do with actual fat loss or gain.
- 3:04Philip Pape: So it's kind of fascinating, right.
- 3:05Philip Pape: It's like we want to weigh every day for some reason, but we know that the data every day doesn't really matter that much, and there was a review in the Journal of Obesity that found better results, not just during the fat loss, but people who continue after the fact were successful at maintaining their results.
- 3:27Philip Pape: What's really interesting is that daily weighing does not increase anxiety or obsession, like many people fear or like many people claim.
- 3:36Philip Pape: In fact, studies often have shown the opposite.
- 3:39Philip Pape: People who weigh daily report feeling more in control, less fixated on their weight over time.
- 3:44Philip Pape: Daily report feeling more in control, less fixated on their weight over time.
- 3:47Philip Pape: They develop a more objective, data-driven relationship with the scale, and the wild thing is that your body weight can easily fluctuate by, on average, two to five pounds or more in a single day, even with zero change in body fat.
- 4:02Philip Pape: And so I want to explain why that is, so that you have the context for why, then, the tracking is so important in the context of this signal-to-noise idea.
- 4:11Philip Pape: So first, here are the reasons weight fluctuates.
- 4:13Philip Pape: One of the big ones is carbs and glycogen.
- 4:16Philip Pape: Every gram of carbs stored in your muscles pulls in about three to four grams of water.
- 4:22Philip Pape: So if you load up on pasta one night where you normally don't, that could be an extra 100 grams of carbs means a pound of water weight the next day.
- 4:30Philip Pape: Right, and that's totally normal.
- 4:32Philip Pape: It has nothing to do with fat gain.
- 4:33Philip Pape: And then there's salt.
- 4:35Philip Pape: There's sodium intake.
- 4:36Philip Pape: Higher sodium foods cause water retention as your body tries to maintain proper electrolyte balance, and that's why a salty meal can spike the scale temporarily right, think Chinese food or even pizza.
- 4:48Philip Pape: Your body is just doing its job.
- 4:51Philip Pape: It's very sophisticated, it's very smart to maintain homeostasis.
- 4:56Philip Pape: Then we have, like, what's in your gut, digestive contents gut, what am I trying to say?
- 5:00Philip Pape: Gut content, right, are a pretty big factor for some people, because the food and liquid in your digestive system it has mass, and, depending on when and what you last ate, depending on when you go to the bathroom.
- 5:11Philip Pape: This can vary by several pounds, right, and it's why weighing yourself at different times of day is not a great strategy for consistency, because even just literally after having a glass of water you're going to, you're going to weigh more.
- 5:25Philip Pape: Um, then we have our hydration status, which is always changing.
- 5:29Philip Pape: It's not like you're a fixed creature, right.
- 5:31Philip Pape: You sweat during exercise, you drink more or less water on different times, you might have some alcohol.
- 5:36Philip Pape: The humidity level in the air can affect your body, body's water balance.
- 5:40Philip Pape: All of this can cause multi-pound fluctuations.
- 5:45Philip Pape: Then we have training, right.
- 5:46Philip Pape: Intense training exercise, especially resistance training, especially a leg day, can cause some inflammation and temporary water retention.
- 5:54Philip Pape: Your muscles are holding more water.
- 5:56Philip Pape: It's a good sign that you are adapting and you're getting stronger than happens, but it does sometimes cause a pop in weight.
- 6:03Philip Pape: Then we have hormonal changes, right, especially relevant for women, but even men experience fluctuations that affect your ability to retain water.
- 6:11Philip Pape: There's cortisol from stress, reproductive hormones, thyroid function.
- 6:14Philip Pape: All of it impacts how much water your body holds onto.
- 6:19Philip Pape: And now people wonder why the heck the scale bounces around.
- 6:21Philip Pape: Well, there you go.
- 6:22Philip Pape: When you understand all these factors, you realize that expecting a linear change on the scale is actually completely unrealistic and not to be expected whatsoever.
- 6:33Philip Pape: You actually want your scale weight to look like a huge oscillating up and down line or curve over time.
- 6:41Philip Pape: It's never going to be that tight, it's rarely going to be that tight.
- 6:45Philip Pape: Let's put it that way, right?
- 6:46Philip Pape: It's like trying to measure the tide by looking at waves.
- 6:49Philip Pape: I mean, that's a decent analogy.
- 6:51Philip Pape: If you think of the ocean, it's just pointless.
- 6:54Philip Pape: So this is where the concept from engineering that you probably have heard of before, it's called the signal to noise ratio, where the signal is that meaningful data that we want to measure and then the noise is everything else that interferes with that measurement.
- 7:07Philip Pape: Right, and sometimes the noise is a lot more than you want it to be.
- 7:10Philip Pape: So if I give you a real world example, when you're listening to you, remember radios, remember radio in your car Okay, I'm speaking to my demographic, which is probably a lot of you listening and you're on a road trip and you get closer to the station and it's nice and clear, and then you start to drive away from the station.
- 7:27Philip Pape: What happens?
- 7:28Philip Pape: Right, the music, that's what you want to hear, that's the signal.
- 7:31Philip Pape: It starts getting mixed with static and the static is the noise and then, as you get further away, the of that signal to noise gets worse and worse, until you can't hear the music at all.
- 7:43Philip Pape: And your body works the same way.
- 7:44Philip Pape: Or your body weight, your scale weight, works the same way.
- 7:45Philip Pape: The trend in your weight, whether you're gaining, maintaining or losing, that's the signal that we want to know.
- 7:50Philip Pape: But all the daily fluctuations we talked about, that's the noise.
- 7:54Philip Pape: And in engineering we solve this using a filter.
- 7:57Philip Pape: This is a tool, this is a piece of math that you can turn into electronics, and it separates the signal from the noise.
- 8:04Philip Pape: So for body weight, we can do that using a moving average.
- 8:08Philip Pape: We can just weigh yourself every day and then use, like a seven day moving average or what I like, which Macrofactor uses, a 20 day exponential moving average.
- 8:18Philip Pape: And you know, don't let that scare you, it's actually a pretty simple thing.
- 8:21Philip Pape: You can even do it yourself in a spreadsheet.
- 8:22Philip Pape: But think of it like this Imagine if, instead of looking at the waves hitting the beach and trying to determine the tide, you look at a time-lapse video over several hours.
- 8:34Philip Pape: You ever seen those where now you see the tide clearly moving in and clearly moving out, even though individual waves are always crashing, moving in and clearly moving out, even though individual waves are always crashing right.
- 8:44Philip Pape: The exponential moving average does that.
- 8:48Philip Pape: It gives more weight to the recent measurements and smooths out the daily fluctuations, and so, as a result, you get this trend line that actually tells you what's happening with your body composition.
- 8:56Philip Pape: And I want to get into this, just nerd out on this a bit, because I've looked into this, and I want to get into this, just nerd out on this a bit, because I've looked into this and I even talked to Greg Knuckles a while ago on the podcast.
- 9:05Philip Pape: Why 20 days?
- 9:06Philip Pape: Right, it's not random.
- 9:08Philip Pape: It's actually long enough to filter out most noise, but short enough to still be responsive to real changes.
- 9:14Philip Pape: Because you don't want to wait six months to determine your trend weight.
- 9:17Philip Pape: That would be ridiculous.
- 9:18Philip Pape: But we also know we can't do it in as short as seven days because it's still too noisy, right.
- 9:24Philip Pape: And so you want to balance in between, and that's where the 20 days is really nice.
- 9:29Philip Pape: And so when I'm working with clients, it's like the first couple of weeks, we're just collecting data.
- 9:33Philip Pape: Let's not even worry about what it says.
- 9:35Philip Pape: And then there's the question of the linear versus exponential.
- 9:38Philip Pape: If you care about that.
- 9:39Philip Pape: I mentioned an exponential average.
- 9:47Philip Pape: A linear average would treat the last 20 days the same, but an exponential average gives more weight to recent days, even though it still considers older data.
- 9:51Philip Pape: That's a very smart approach, because what's happened to your body recently is more signal than what happened 20 days ago, so that makes it more responsive to the actual change in direction, but still filtering out the noise.
- 10:04Philip Pape: And so what's really powerful about this is it gives you better data with less perfect adherence.
- 10:12Philip Pape: Okay, so if you In other words no, let me restate it If you only weigh yourself occasionally, you're going to get less reliable information than someone who weighs daily.
- 10:22Philip Pape: That's what I'm trying to say.
- 10:23Philip Pape: It's kind of this counterintuitive thing, but the math proves it.
- 10:26Philip Pape: Just look at how the formula works.
- 10:28Philip Pape: It proves it mathematically that if you only sporadically weigh yourself, it's not going to work so well and it's not going to give you a great idea of what's going on.
- 10:36Philip Pape: But if you weigh yourself daily, it will.
- 10:38Philip Pape: And it's not going to give you a great idea of what's going on, but if you weigh yourself daily it will.
- 10:40Philip Pape: So again, with my clients, I kind of get on them a little bit when they miss some days of weighing because I don't want to sound like a tracking Nazi here, but it's actually going to help you.
- 10:49Philip Pape: It's going to help you to know am I actually losing fat or gaining fat, so that I can change my calories appropriately.
- 10:55Philip Pape: So how do we apply this in practice appropriately?
- 10:59Philip Pape: So how do we apply this in practice?
- 11:00Philip Pape: Well, pretty simple.
- 11:01Philip Pape: We need to collect enough data points.
- 11:02Philip Pape: That means you need to weigh yourself every day, and the best, most reliable way to do that is first thing in the morning, after you use the bathroom, before you eat or drink, wearing the similar clothing or preferably none, or, you know, underwear or something like that and using the same scale.
- 11:15Philip Pape: But this is crucial.
- 11:17Philip Pape: This is the crucial part.
- 11:19Philip Pape: That's all the logistical stuff.
- 11:21Philip Pape: Emotionally, you need to detach emotionally from those individual numbers.
- 11:24Philip Pape: Now, when I say you need to detach, like, can you just flip a switch and do that?
- 11:28Philip Pape: Of course not.
- 11:28Philip Pape: I get that.
- 11:29Philip Pape: But over time, as you do it daily, you will detach right, unless something else is going on.
- 11:34Philip Pape: You will detach and I see this over and over again as long as you relate it to the why and the trend and are kind of treating the data like it's supposed to be, like it's meant to be like.
- 11:47Philip Pape: These are just data points.
- 11:48Philip Pape: They mean nothing.
- 11:49Philip Pape: The magic happens when you look at the trend, right.
- 11:51Philip Pape: And so, going back to macro factor, it handles this for you, right.
- 11:54Philip Pape: It calculates your trend weight and then it uses that along with your food intake to say okay, based on what you're eating and based on what you're weighing, over a long period of two or three weeks, we know that you're actually gaining weight or you're losing weight and therefore we're going to adjust your intake accordingly.
- 12:13Philip Pape: Or maybe you're gaining more or less than we thought, so we're going to go up or down with your calories right Now.
- 12:18Philip Pape: This principle can apply to anything, for example, your calories themselves, your calories and macro targets.
- 12:25Philip Pape: I don't want you to hit them perfectly.
- 12:27Philip Pape: That's impossible.
- 12:28Philip Pape: It's the weekly averages that ends up driving your results.
- 12:31Philip Pape: So, again, we don't want to obsess over hitting the exact number every day.
- 12:34Philip Pape: That's super counterproductive.
- 12:36Philip Pape: Some days will be higher, some days will lower.
- 12:38Philip Pape: It is the trend that matters Now.
- 12:39Philip Pape: If you're always over, the trend will be high.
- 12:41Philip Pape: If you're always under, the trend will be low.
- 12:43Philip Pape: But you've got to give yourself some up and down room to navigate, similar in the gym, with your strength.
- 12:50Philip Pape: Your performance in a single workout matters far less than your overall volume for the week, your sets for the week, your recovery for the week, the intensity going up session to session.
- 13:05Philip Pape: You're going to have bad days, you're going to have great days.
- 13:06Philip Pape: Neither of them defines you or your strength level in the moment.
- 13:08Philip Pape: It's the trend over time.
- 13:08Philip Pape: Look at your, the weights, the working weights and the volumes over days, weeks and months.
- 13:12Philip Pape: I can go on.
- 13:13Philip Pape: Recovery right.
- 13:15Philip Pape: Individual sleep scores, individual things that your aura ring tells you like oh my God, it's terrible.
- 13:20Philip Pape: Your stress levels through the roof.
- 13:21Philip Pape: Your HRV is terrible.
- 13:23Philip Pape: Don't stress.
- 13:24Philip Pape: I mean, one bad night's not going to ruin you.
- 13:26Philip Pape: One perfect night's not going to fix everything.
- 13:28Philip Pape: You know, one night of catching up on sleep isn't going to matter.
- 13:31Philip Pape: It's the patterns over time, right, get those naps in, get the sleep schedule to be consistent, you know, slowly lengthen the amount of hours over time, and I can go on.
- 13:46Philip Pape: Like progress photos same thing like looking at yourself in the mirror every day can be misleading, but like monthly shots, those show the changes.
- 13:50Philip Pape: Now, that's kind of a weird example, because I don't want you to take photos every day, because it doesn't work that way with photos, right, it's not like photos average out that it doesn't work that way.
- 14:00Philip Pape: But for you to see the changes over time, you're going to need data points over time to compare to, and then even subjective metrics, like the biofeedback that I asked my clients to give me to rate their energy, hunger, mood.
- 14:13Philip Pape: I look at them when they check in, but I really care about the trend, because you're going to have stress, you're going to have soreness, you're going to have issues here and there, you're going to get sick, et cetera.
- 14:25Philip Pape: It doesn't matter.
- 14:25Philip Pape: What matters is the trend over time.
- 14:27Philip Pape: So if you put all this together, what does it look like?
- 14:30Philip Pape: You've got to have some sort of tool to track.
- 14:32Philip Pape: It could be an app, a spreadsheet, a notebook.
- 14:35Philip Pape: Have a system that works for you, I don't care what it is.
- 14:37Philip Pape: Establish the protocol, right.
- 14:40Philip Pape: When am I going to track it?
- 14:41Philip Pape: How am I going to do it?
- 14:42Philip Pape: So, for for weight we already talked about that every day in the morning, blah, blah, blah, um.
- 14:48Philip Pape: Commit to doing it regularly, right?
- 14:49Philip Pape: If it's daily, that makes sense.
- 14:51Philip Pape: Do it daily.
- 14:51Philip Pape: Consistency matters the most, so don't beat yourself up if you miss one Um, but also allow yourself to see the benefit of doing it as frequently as you think you need to do it like daily for scale, weight and maybe less for other things.
- 15:05Philip Pape: And then you're going to review your data weekly or biweekly and spot the patterns.
- 15:08Philip Pape: You're going to look at the trends.
- 15:09Philip Pape: That can be a really fun part of it, because now you've got enough data to give you a trend.
- 15:14Philip Pape: And now you're like, oh, I'm glad I had all that data right, because otherwise it'd be missing and it wouldn't be able to figure out what's going on.
- 15:19Philip Pape: Same thing with me as a coach.
- 15:20Philip Pape: It's like if you weren't tracking for the last two weeks, I can't help you as much because I don't have that data.
- 15:26Philip Pape: And so then you can make adjustments based on those trends, not the fluctuations, and it helps you avoid the obsessiveness and the emotional response, because now you're like, oh cool, like that early bad night I had, whatever it was eating too much or not getting sleep actually is just kind of some noise.
- 15:42Philip Pape: It's noise in the signal, no big deal, right.
- 15:45Philip Pape: And so it helps you reduce anxiety and obsession around tracking.
- 15:49Philip Pape: That's the magic of this whole thing.
- 15:51Philip Pape: When you understand that the daily numbers are noise, you stop giving them so much emotional power.
- 15:57Philip Pape: That's all it is.
- 15:57Philip Pape: It's just a false sense of emotional power over you.
- 16:00Philip Pape: Then you become more like an engineer or a scientist, right?
- 16:04Philip Pape: You're just collecting data points and then you're going to reveal patterns.
- 16:06Philip Pape: And this shift in mindset is really liberating.
- 16:09Philip Pape: It is really empowering, because suddenly you can enjoy that dinner out without stress you know it's just noise and a larger signal dinner out without stress, you know it's just noise and a larger signal.
- 16:21Philip Pape: You start to see your fitness journey as a data-driven process rather than an emotional roller coaster.
- 16:25Philip Pape: So the next time you step on the scale, remember you're not looking at a verdict, a judgment.
- 16:30Philip Pape: You're collecting a data point that, combined with many others, dozens, hundreds of others, reveals the true story of your progress.
- 16:37Philip Pape: And this isn't about weight tracking, right, this is about the mindset the mindset of an engineer, actually.
- 16:43Philip Pape: That's why you listen to me, I think, someone who can look past the daily noise and see the signal that matters, all right.
- 16:50Philip Pape: So if you want to start tracking the smart way, a great way to do that for your food and your weight, which then gives you your metabolism and your targets if you're trying to gain muscle or lose fat, is to download Macrofactor and use code WITSANDWEIGHTS all one word to try it out.
- 17:09Philip Pape: You're going to get access to one of the best trend weight and expenditure calculators out there.
- 17:11Philip Pape: That's doing it for you as you log your weight, as you log your food.
- 17:13Philip Pape: It makes it super easy.
- 17:14Philip Pape: All right, until next time, keep using your wits lifting those weights and remember, in fitness as in engineering, the signal is in the noise.
- 17:22Philip Pape: You just have to know how to find it.
- 17:24Philip Pape: I'll talk to you next time here on the Wits and Weights podcast.