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- Lucas: So there's this hospital system in Ohio — I think it's the Cleveland Clinic, but honestly, it could be any large system — that cut readmissions by 30 percent with a five-question phone call. Luna: Just five questions? Lucas: Just five. And the call takes about three minutes. The whole intervention costs less than $50 per patient. And it saved them over three million dollars a year in penalties and avoided care costs. Luna: Okay, I need to hear these five questions. Lucas: Right, so the first question is: 'Are you taking all your medications as prescribed?' Second: 'Do you have any new or worsening symptoms?' Third: 'Have you seen your primary care doctor since discharge?' Fourth: 'Do you understand your discharge instructions?' And fifth: 'Is there anything else we can help you with?' Luna: That is deceptively simple. I mean, it's almost obvious. But I bet the devil is in when you call. Lucas: Exactly. They call within 48 hours of discharge. That window is critical. If you wait a week, the patient might already be readmitted. The data shows that 20 percent of readmissions happen within the first seven days. So you have to catch them fast. Luna: And it's a real person calling, not a robot? Lucas: Real person. Usually a nurse or a trained care coordinator. The hospital found that a live voice made a huge difference. Patients felt someone cared, so they were more honest about their struggles. Luna: That makes sense. The same principle applies in customer service — a personal touch beats an automated check-in every time. Lucas: Right, and this is where the business lesson really kicks in. It's not just a healthcare thing. Any operation that relies on follow-through — a SaaS company checking in after onboarding, a car dealership after a service visit — can use a short, scripted call to reduce churn or improve outcomes. Luna: Yeah, because the cost of losing a customer is way higher than the cost of a five-minute call. Lucas: Exactly. The hospital calculated that each readmission cost them about $10,000 on average. Each call cost less than $50. So the return on investment is massive. Luna: If today was actually useful to you, the way these stay ad-free is listener support — buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Lucas: Yeah, that's a small way to keep these conversations going. And we really appreciate it. Luna: Alright, back to the call. So they had the script, they had the timing, they had the right person calling. What about the patient's mindset? Lucas: Great question. The hospital also trained callers to listen for cues. If a patient hesitated on question one, they'd dig deeper: 'Is it the cost? Side effects? Confusion?' They found that 40 percent of medication non-adherence was due to cost, and they could connect patients with financial aid programs. Luna: So the call wasn't just a checklist — it was a diagnostic tool. Lucas: Exactly. And that's the hidden win. The readmission rate dropped, but they also improved patient satisfaction scores. Because patients felt like the hospital actually cared after they left. Luna: And that's a metric that affects reimbursement. The Hospital Consumer Assessment of Healthcare Providers and Systems scores — HCAHPS — directly tie to Medicare payments. Lucas: Right. So the call had a triple effect: lower readmissions, better patient experience, and higher reimbursement. All from a three-minute call. Luna: What about the people making the calls? I imagine that job could get pretty repetitive. Lucas: The hospital rotated staff and gave them autonomy to solve problems on the spot. They weren't just reading a script — they had the authority to schedule follow-up appointments or adjust medications with a physician's approval. That made the work meaningful, and turnover was low. Luna: So it's not just the what, it's the how. The system was designed so the person on the phone could actually help. Lucas: Bingo. And that's the core of the operator's mindset: design the process so the frontline worker has both the tools and the authority to fix the problem. Luna: Are there any numbers on how many calls they had to make to prevent one readmission? Like, the number needed to treat? Lucas: Yeah, the hospital published data. They found that for every 20 calls, they prevented one readmission. So 20 calls at $50 each is $1,000 — versus $10,000 for a readmission. That's a ten-to-one return. Luna: That's a no-brainer. So why don't all hospitals do this? Lucas: Culture and inertia, mostly. Some hospitals think they're too busy. Others tried it with automated calls and saw no improvement, so they gave up. But the ones that commit to a live call with a trained person see results. Luna: It reminds me of that study on hotel check-ins. When front desk staff asked, 'Is everything okay with your room?' in a genuine way, they caught maintenance issues earlier and improved reviews. Lucas: Exactly the same principle. A simple, timely, human check-in can surface problems before they escalate. And the cost is trivial compared to the damage of a bad review or a lost customer. Luna: So what's the one takeaway for a business owner listening? Lucas: Pick one point in your customer journey where things often go wrong — right after purchase, after onboarding, after a service — and design a five-question check-in call. Keep it short. Make it human. Give the caller authority to fix things. Then measure the impact on retention or repeat business. Luna: And start with the first question: 'Are you using the product as intended?' That alone could reveal a lot. Lucas: Right. And if you get resistance, you can always fall back on the hospital's fourth question: 'Do you understand the instructions?' Often the gap is just clarity. Luna: Alright, I'm sold. I'm going to try this with my own team. Lucas: Let me know how it goes. And if you're listening and you try it, drop us a note — we'd love to feature your results. Luna: That's the operator's way: test, measure, improve. Thanks, Lucas. Lucas: Thanks, Luna. See you next time.