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[3/3] Primordial Awareness: The Open Heart of Dzogchen (Jun 2026) · Lama Lena Teachings

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  SPEAKER_00: Hello everybody, it's Lama Tatra.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just waiting for Lama Lena to get to the building.
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  SPEAKER_00: Actually, if you can hear me okay now, because the mic is over here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah?
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  SPEAKER_00: Looks okay?
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  sweet all right sit tight um Lama Linda should be here soon and
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  then we'll get started
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  SPEAKER_00: How's this frame?
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  SPEAKER_00: Can you look on the camera?
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  SPEAKER_00: If I'm Lama Lena, how does this look?
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  SPEAKER_00: She's a little shorter than you, so yeah, that's good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is this good?
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Use a stand-in.
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  SPEAKER_00: That'll be good.
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  Yeah.
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  .
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  .
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  .
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  I'm going to show you what I'm going to show you what I'm going
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  to show you
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to show you how to do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I started the stream already
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to do a copy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh wait, what's this if you have some pee?
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  It's pee right now.
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  SPEAKER_02: You need to give me that yellow bag.
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  SPEAKER_00: I will.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let yourselves comfortable.
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  SPEAKER_00: What?
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  SPEAKER_00: Hi, guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
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  Dorjichang Chichilunarudang Marpa Milagomputsatapa Na Pupadang
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  Paldendrupasuk
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  SPEAKER_03: Kargyu Lama Namla Solo Adib Pochen Lama Namla Solo Adib
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  Ruchen Lama Namla Sol Vahadeb Kaginwari Lama Namla Sol Vahadeb
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  Shakya Lama Namla
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  SPEAKER_03: Sol Vahadeb Nyandudai Yundran Lama Namla Sol Vahadeb
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  SPEAKER_03: a.m.m.m.m.m.m.m.m.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_02: There are a variety of philosophical schools of which one of which
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  SPEAKER_03: Was it a rope or a snake?
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  SPEAKER_03: There's no way I'll ever know, is there?
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  SPEAKER_02: Is the mind-only school.
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  SPEAKER_02: In a lot of texts they talk about it.
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  SPEAKER_03: When you say,
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  SPEAKER_03: All phenomena is in your mind.
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  SPEAKER_03: There is no phenomena that is not in your mind.
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  SPEAKER_03: It is true as far as it goes.
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  It fails to mention that you don't have a mind because there
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  isn't a you to have one.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there is no mind and there is no owner of mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: However, in general, in the beginning,
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  SPEAKER_01: It is taught that all phenomena arises in mind,
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  which you can notice by examining your memories and then
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  finding a friend who was
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  SPEAKER_02: there and examining their memories.
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  SPEAKER_03: They will not be the same.
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  SPEAKER_03: What did we eat last night?
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, we ate so many other things as well.
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  SPEAKER_03: There was that.
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  SPEAKER_03: There was that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't remember potatoes, but they may have been there.
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  SPEAKER_03: Little quite round things.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, those were yellow.
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  SPEAKER_02: There were some little white round things that sort of crunched.
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  SPEAKER_02: They were very good.
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  SPEAKER_01: You could put things on them.
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  A little crispy,
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  round white crispy,
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  might have been made of rice or wheat.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you never know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Memories are funny.
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  SPEAKER_02: For a working theory, everything you think is happening is a thought.
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  SPEAKER_02: All your feelings, your angers, your annoyances,
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  SPEAKER_02: Your difficulties with one person,
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  SPEAKER_02: your fondness for another person,
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  SPEAKER_02: are based on your thoughts,
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  SPEAKER_02: not that person,
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  SPEAKER_02: but who you think they are,
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  SPEAKER_02: what you think they are,
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  SPEAKER_02: remembering the past,
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  SPEAKER_02: what you think they did or did not do.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's all based on your own thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's in your mind.
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  I have a dear friend who is,
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  whose personal reality is quite far from the common one.
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  SPEAKER_02: And who is in the Sangha and has some amazing Zonalaya here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, she knows about it anyway.
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  SPEAKER_01: One of my favorite words was that she was a Chinese spy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sent by the Chinese to spy on the Tibetans.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because she had two telephone numbers.
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  So that proved it When you watch someone who is even more
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  profoundly trapped in
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  SPEAKER_02: their belief systems than the common person He hasn't slept,
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  a friend also may not have slept for a number of nights because
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  of a paranoid
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  SPEAKER_01: fantasy
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's out there.
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  SPEAKER_02: But we're all just like that.
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  It's really only a matter of who is more obviously like that
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  than who isn't and who
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  SPEAKER_01: hides it well.
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  SPEAKER_01: Being another autistic, he never did learn how to hide it.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's all in your mind.
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  SPEAKER_02: Everything you think.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, even mind, the definition for mind is that which thinks.
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  SPEAKER_02: The thinker.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just as Rigpa is the perceiver.
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  SPEAKER_02: Pa, E-R suffix.
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  Rig,
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  the verb to see,
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  which in Tibetan way of speech refers to all the forms of
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  perception.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you think Rigpa is something highfalutin you gotta find?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's staring out from behind your own eyes.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's the experiencer, the seer.
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  SPEAKER_02: But it has no separate existence from what it is seeing or thinking.
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  SPEAKER_02: The you of this moment is not the you of a moment ago.
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  you are changing continuously your biome dying and being born
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  the bacteria on your
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  skin doing the same thing and yet they're all part of you there
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  is no you that is
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  not them if you were to be sterilized made sterile in a
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  pharmaceutical sense
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  SPEAKER_01: You die.
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  SPEAKER_01: You could not live without them.
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  They're part of you,
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  as much part of you as your eyes or your nose or any other
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  part.
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  One of the most important things to realize in Dzogchen is that
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  you are a heap.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's what Skanda means, heap, pile.
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  SPEAKER_01: or a pile of piles,
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  SPEAKER_01: a clump of clumps,
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  an entanglement of assorted entanglements that make up a big
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  entanglement that's
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  SPEAKER_01: you,
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  SPEAKER_01: that makes up a bigger entanglement that's your society,
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  SPEAKER_01: sangha,
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  SPEAKER_01: culture,
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  SPEAKER_01: that makes up a bigger entanglement that's your species,
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  SPEAKER_01: that makes up a bigger entanglement that's your planet,
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  SPEAKER_01: and so on and so forth.
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  The only thing the Buddha said wasn't entangled with things
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  here were macro and microcosm.
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  SPEAKER_01: They exist,
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  but they are too far in their directions of bigger and littler
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  to be part of the
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  SPEAKER_01: entanglement.
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  It's the sutra where he talks about us existing as a single
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  grain of pollen
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  on the lotus in a buddha's hand in the um macrocosm and we are
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  microcosm to that
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  and he talks about how no activity in the microcosm can affect
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  here nor do we
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  affect things or that live individuals in the microcosm it's a
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  fractal as he
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  SPEAKER_03: described it
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  SPEAKER_02: Anybody remember which sutra that was?
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  SPEAKER_02: Can I have a scholar in here?
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  SPEAKER_02: Rats.
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  SPEAKER_00: The playing pool, maybe?
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  SPEAKER_00: The playing pool?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is the sutra about counting?
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
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  SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
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  SPEAKER_02: What's it called?
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  SPEAKER_02: Playing pool?
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  SPEAKER_00: Playing pool.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a western translation of the title.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_01: I think if I know it,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's going to be by a slightly different translation,
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  SPEAKER_01: of which there are going to be many.
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  SPEAKER_01: You should see the things they call the Heart Sutra.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it the psychedelic one that talks in fractals?
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  SPEAKER_02: Probably.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, scholar, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Say it slowly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Avadamsaka.
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  SPEAKER_01: For those of you out there who want to go Google that and read it,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's probably online somewhere,
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  SPEAKER_01: but you got to do it by the right name.
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  SPEAKER_02: Ah, there's a teaching if you go looking for it by Bob Thurman.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yogi, not scholar.
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  SPEAKER_01: I like to refer you all to the scholars for the scholarly stuff.
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  I studied scholarly stuff in Majamika for about three years and
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  then I ended up in
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  SPEAKER_01: a cave where I studied non-scholarly stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: To find your way to freedom,
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  SPEAKER_02: which is I think what we're in here for,
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  SPEAKER_02: see,
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  SPEAKER_02: you got all these cricks and hangups
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  SPEAKER_02: and little things that bug you about yourself,
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  SPEAKER_01: about others,
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  SPEAKER_01: about your society,
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  SPEAKER_01: about your cat.
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  SPEAKER_01: Steals all my hair combs.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's why my hair is looking weird like this.
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  SPEAKER_01: I haven't found my comb for two days.
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  SPEAKER_02: So all of that
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  SPEAKER_02: is made of thought,
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  SPEAKER_02: and it's pulling you around,
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  SPEAKER_02: but it can only do that because in duality,
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  SPEAKER_02: you don't recognize how made of thought you are,
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  SPEAKER_02: how two mirrors reflecting itself you are,
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  SPEAKER_02: how you make up the thoughts and they make you up.
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  SPEAKER_02: with no solid substantial reality in between.
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  SPEAKER_02: Without seeing that, you hurt.
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  SPEAKER_02: You experience fear and hope.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're afraid of being found to be an idiot, being rejected, not liked.
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  SPEAKER_01: Poverty, governments, there's lots of things to be afraid of.
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  you want love freedom enlightenment so that means you're
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  putting all your energy
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  into chasing love freedom enlightenment by practicing Dharma by
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  going to teachings
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  and you're putting all your energy into running away from
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  ignorance confusion
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  SPEAKER_02: Upsettedness, freakoutedness.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is what keeps you circling in samsara.
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  SPEAKER_03: Chasing and running.
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  SPEAKER_03: Even the chasing of enlightenment and the fleeing of confusion
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  The grabbing of wisdom and the fleeing of confusion is still a
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  grabbing and shoving.
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  SPEAKER_02: It still keeps, supports your being a grabber-shover.
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  SPEAKER_02: Entityness.
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  So you form up your entityness by your grabbing and shoving
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  because entities are
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  SPEAKER_02: grabber-shovers.
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  SPEAKER_02: You following this at all?
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  SPEAKER_02: Am I making sense with English words?
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  SPEAKER_01: If you can simply relax and let go for an hour.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just sit there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Without trying to get something out of it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Without worrying that you're wasting time.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was a thought.
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  SPEAKER_01: You were believing it if you thought we're worried about wasting time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now just sit there.
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  SPEAKER_03: Let the display complete itself and wind down.
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  SPEAKER_03: It won't do it in an hour.
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  But a yogi sits there day in,
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  day out,
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  not maintaining the display by pursuing enlightenment.
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  SPEAKER_01: or by fleeing ignorance and confusion.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you accept the confusion just as well as you accept the wisdom.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, is today a confused day?
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
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  SPEAKER_01: Tandatuku used to say,
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  you know those days you get up and you go out to take a leak
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  and you discover
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  SPEAKER_01: you're pissing in your shoe?
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  SPEAKER_01: Those are days of confusion.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know those days you get up and you go out and you're
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  The sun is shining and the birds are singing and the students
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  are gathered and
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  SPEAKER_02: everything's wonderful.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you know exactly what to say.
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  SPEAKER_02: Those are days of wisdom.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't grab.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't shove.
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  SPEAKER_02: Empty the shoe.
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  SPEAKER_02: Put it in the sun to dry and put on a different shoe.
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  SPEAKER_02: Or go back to bed.
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  SPEAKER_02: Either way.
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  SPEAKER_02: Did any of you know Chaktutuku?
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  Very well known in America for a while and then down in Brazil,
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  very big in Brazil.
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  SPEAKER_01: Married one of my run-in mates.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now known as Chaktukhandro, who teaches a lot of wonderful things.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's very good at teaching POA.
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  it's only in Dzogchen Dzogchen means completion stage it means
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  as you've gone as
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  far as you can chasing enlightenment and of course you haven't
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  caught it because
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  you're still there chasing it you think you're there be aware
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  that to think you're
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  SPEAKER_01: not there is just as much a problem
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  SPEAKER_01: I am there, I am not there.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're both I am's.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're both cohesive entity-ness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Easiest way I've found to break that down is the practice of bodhicitta.
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  SPEAKER_02: Chandraesig, when the rays come out of your heart and all beings' hearts
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  throughout all the dimensions and all the times until the
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  universe and everything
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  SPEAKER_02: is simply so full of rays of clear,
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  SPEAKER_02: transparent light that the stuff isn't even visible.
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  And resting in that as that,
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  interconnected,
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  interpenetrating,
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  that practice breaks it down.
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  When you go out and you inhale that black smoke of suffering
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  from another being
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  feeling fear of taking on that pain that they're in because
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  they just got run over
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  by a truck or whatever and it pops your bubble of
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  self-focusedness and for a moment
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  SPEAKER_01: There's nothing left but clear white light.
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  SPEAKER_02: All of these practices,
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  SPEAKER_02: the dream yoga,
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  SPEAKER_02: where you inhale and exhale the universe as you're going to sleep.
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  SPEAKER_02: These will break down your clump holdingness
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  the hanging on to your clumpishness I have found better than
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  most other practices
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  they're very direct but they go with a certain amount of just
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  sitting there and
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  SPEAKER_02: letting it wind down not even shiné
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  SPEAKER_01: Shine is either or.
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  SPEAKER_01: Shine is not thinking.
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  SPEAKER_01: Resting in stillness as stillness.
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  SPEAKER_01: You have rejected the thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_01: You have grasped the stillness.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's not out.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Get you born in the god realm, maybe even the formless gods.
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  SPEAKER_02: Within Zogchen,
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  SPEAKER_02: to relax and let go,
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  SPEAKER_02: and to leave the universe be without poking at it,
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  SPEAKER_02: without trying to fix it,
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  SPEAKER_02: repair it,
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  SPEAKER_02: improve it,
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  SPEAKER_01: even for an hour,
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  SPEAKER_01: creates vast amounts of Gawa,
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  SPEAKER_01: scattered about.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're not yours.
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  to also from the side of sunyata rather than the side of
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  bodhicitta to pop the
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  SPEAKER_01: clumpishness of the self-image while you're doing things
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  SPEAKER_02: Walking and talking,
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  SPEAKER_02: eating and sleeping Right while you're doing it,
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  don't even stop When you glance at natural mind Past the
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  frou-frou of your thoughts
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  SPEAKER_02: and feelings Then immediately look and see what glanced
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  When we say mind-mind looking,
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  we mean the same thing as the seer sees itself.
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  SPEAKER_01: In Tibetan Rangrik, self-seeing, literally.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's one thing to see the emptiness of everything out there.
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  You gotta see the emptiness of the in here Who the hell do you
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  think I am?
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  It's not who I think I am Each of you has made up a slightly
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  different Lama Lena To
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  SPEAKER_02: which you are relating If I were to go off a bit Leaving you to
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  Discuss among yourselves,
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  Lama Lena is like this,
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  Lama Lena is like that.
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  Eventually you would see just how different all your belief
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  systems are of who and what I am.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they're not the same as my belief systems.
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  SPEAKER_01: My belief systems are constantly changing.
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  Who I think I am,
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  oh,
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  one day I think I'm this,
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  another day I think I'm that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Someday I'm too short, someday I think I'm six feet tall.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's just, those are thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_02: Ever moving, ever rolling.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can't really put anything on them.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can't rest on them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Trying to show you real Zogchen.
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  SPEAKER_01: Maybe if I read you a text.
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  SPEAKER_03: Stop that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Come on.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Where's the cuckoo?
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  SPEAKER_03: This might be it.
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  in the all-pervading realm of dharmata flawless and
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  inconceivable do not when they
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  SPEAKER_01: say perfect try to impose your idea of what you think would be perfect
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  A land where everything is made of candy would be perfect,
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  says the four-year-old.
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  SPEAKER_02: Give me a steak.
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  SPEAKER_02: So do not try to impose yours.
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  SPEAKER_03: Total effortless perfection.
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  The Dharmakaya Guru the unity of awareness and emptiness The
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  Dharmakaya which
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  contains Sambhogakaya and Nirmanakaya as its natural aspects
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  not as something else
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  How wonderful this spacious expanse of fundamental freedom and
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  equalness arising on their own.
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  SPEAKER_02: In me there arise the special qualities
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  SPEAKER_01: of the Unexcelled View of Atti.
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  SPEAKER_03: Come on,
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  SPEAKER_03: come on,
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  SPEAKER_03: come on,
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  SPEAKER_03: that was not the one I thought it was,
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_03: although it's a really nice one.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_03: I've got gremlins in my iPad.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_03: What's my cat scan doing in there?
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  SPEAKER_03: Come on, cuckoo of awareness.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, this is cute.
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  SPEAKER_03: Leguma.
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  SPEAKER_03: Come on load.
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  SPEAKER_03: I got too much text in here.
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  SPEAKER_03: Last one.
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  SPEAKER_03: That better be it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Very short and very beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_03: Salutations.
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  SPEAKER_03: Supreme abundance.
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  SPEAKER_01: Homage to the transcendent victorious Samatha Bhadra, Samatha Bhadri.
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  SPEAKER_01: Bhadra body, speech, and mind of great bliss.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_01: The intrinsic nature of variety is non-dual.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, key phrase.
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  SPEAKER_02: Variety, all of it.
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  SPEAKER_02: in the interconnectedness of it becomes a singular clump.
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  In the interconnectedness of all your experiences arises a
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  singular clump which is
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  SPEAKER_02: interconnected with every other singular clump in the universe.
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  SPEAKER_02: making it not singular but multiple.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you don't have an either or of one or many in this universe.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not like we are all one.
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  SPEAKER_02: Obviously we are many.
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  SPEAKER_02: But it's not like we are all many because obviously we are all one.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you have to be able to
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  SPEAKER_02: Step past either or into a unity of non-concept to get out of duality.
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  SPEAKER_02: Duality of I am or I am not.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, I see practitioners going around pretending they don't exist.
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  SPEAKER_01: Pretending they believe they don't exist.
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  SPEAKER_01: The teacher's tradition with that is to whop them.
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  SPEAKER_01: All the traditions have you doing that when they think they don't exist.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then you have students walking around who think they do exist.
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  SPEAKER_03: And the tradition is to point out that no, in fact, you don't.
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  But for as long as you cling to either or,
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  you are going to be trapped in duality.
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  SPEAKER_02: And as long as you are trapped in duality,
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  You will feel yourself to be separate from everything else,
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  having a self and it having selves.
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  And so you will chase some of them with yourself and run from
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  others with yourself,
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  SPEAKER_02: like chasing enlightenment and running from confusion.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_01: And so wind the shroud tighter.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_01: the spiderweb tighter around yourself by struggling.
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  SPEAKER_02: Particularity is free from complexity.
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  SPEAKER_02: When you try to look at all the many
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  SPEAKER_02: particular lives you are living here in this universe.
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  SPEAKER_02: As all the us's conceivable, you will be utterly overwhelmed.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's, hmm.
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  SPEAKER_02: So instead of looking at the complexity of it all,
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  SPEAKER_02: which exists,
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  SPEAKER_02: see the simplicity in how the complexity manifests.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sensations of the eyes, ears, nose, tongue, skin, and heat.
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  SPEAKER_01: stories told to yourself about those sensations.
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  SPEAKER_01: I feel pressure on my ass.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think I am sitting in a chair.
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  I am extrapolating from the sensation below my butt that I am
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  sitting on something.
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  And since I also feel sensation in my back,
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  I think it's a chair with a backrest.
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  SPEAKER_02: That I'm making up.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was when I came up here looking like something I would call a chair.
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  SPEAKER_02: But now I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm extrapolating.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm making assumptions about my sensations.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_01: The chairness is unimportant.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_01: But what about the sensations of someone saying something to you?
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  SPEAKER_01: And you think, you form opinions about what they're saying.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you make your own stories about what they told you.
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  SPEAKER_01: and why they feel that way and whether it's reasonable or unreasonable.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so you become all embroiled in everything.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you don't have to do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: That only happens if you friggin' listen to your thoughts.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_02: They're dumb.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_03: I challenge you.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's our timing.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, we don't have time for that today.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_01: I challenge you when you get home,
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  go into a room all by yourself or walking in the park with no
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  one around you and
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  SPEAKER_01: softly say out loud everything you think for 10 minutes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Any of you tried that before?
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_01: Pretty dumb, isn't it?
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_02: Reruns, too.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_01: If you want a new thought, you got to read a book.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_01: And even then, not always.
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  the key the way out is to peel it you want out so you're trying
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  to get away from in
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  yeah that's a problem but until you can just sit there and let
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  it run down while
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  SPEAKER_01: all of Mara's sons and daughters cheater and dance in your face they will
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  SPEAKER_01: Then go ahead,
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  SPEAKER_02: make progress If you still want to get somewhere,
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  if you're still dissatisfied Peel it up from the easy end where
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  you can get a
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  SPEAKER_01: fingernail under it Start with your thoughts Start
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  SPEAKER_02: With your attention relaxed,
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_01: your gaze open,
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_01: what we call the Zogchen gaze,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is straight ahead,
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  SPEAKER_01: eyes open,
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  SPEAKER_01: blinking as needed.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let the thoughts happen, in no way suppress them.
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  SPEAKER_02: Watch them happen without listening to what they say.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_02: This does not mean listen to your thoughts.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_01: When we say, where do your thoughts come from?
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_01: Look at each thought as it arises and see where it comes from.
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  Rinpoche had a student who spent years trying to see what
• 47:16
  previous trauma caused that thought.
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  SPEAKER_01: A slight misunderstanding.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_01: Who eventually got that cleared up?
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_03: Just watch them.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_02: Without listening, what you're watching is you're looking through them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thoughts are transparent.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_01: Traditionally,
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  I would hold up a crystal and not say anything to show you
• 47:49
  transparency because
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_01: Tibetans didn't have glass back in the old days.
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  SPEAKER_01: So instead, I show you a glass object which is transparent.
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  SPEAKER_03: Better.
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  I see you So what you want to do is look right through your
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  transparent thoughts at
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  the mind in which they happen which is not in a place which
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  I've shown you
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  yesterday the day before how to do that and just let it wind
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  down while you do that
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  SPEAKER_02: walking around
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  SPEAKER_02: Check and see if that is still there.
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  Occasionally get a chance to sit somewhere for a minute and
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  look out a window.
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  SPEAKER_02: Watch your thoughts for two minutes without listening to what they say.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_01: Suchness, another word for enlightenment.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_01: for the ordinariness of enlightenment.
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  SPEAKER_01: What,
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_01: you think you're gonna get something that's like,
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_01: makes your mouth drop off and your eyes bug out?
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  SPEAKER_03: Nuh-uh.
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  SPEAKER_02: Suchness is non-conceptual, but Samantabhadra, the symbol of suchness,
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_02: is apparent in all forms.
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  SPEAKER_02: When you see this, you see how it's all.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_03: Buddha,
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  SPEAKER_01: the guy who cut you off in traffic,
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_01: the person who steals from you and drives you up a wall,
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  Doesn't mean you have to let them into your room to steal from
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  you or associate
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  SPEAKER_01: closely with them,
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  SPEAKER_01: but from a distance,
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  SPEAKER_01: see them as Buddha.
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  If you have to keep somebody at a distance to see them as
• 50:18
  Buddha,
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  that's okay.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_03: But nonetheless, recognize
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_01: all the little big Buddhas running around.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_01: When you do Tonglen on a suffering insect,
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  SPEAKER_01: because neither you nor it know who you really are,
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_01: in that moment after your bubble has popped and the suffering has popped,
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_01: for a moment there before karma reasserts itself,
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  SPEAKER_03: it's nothing but clear,
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  SPEAKER_03: transparent,
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  SPEAKER_03: Light, which is actually what you are.
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  SPEAKER_02: And all of this is just the rainbow sparkle of that light.
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  SPEAKER_02: Can you nay see it?
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_02: It seems so obvious.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like in the flight of the Gerudo when they say,
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  SPEAKER_02: and the great roar of dragon pervades each and every realm.
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  SPEAKER_02: How can you possibly not hear it?
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  SPEAKER_02: They're referring to this.
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  Samantabhadra the Buddha is the symbol of suchness and the
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  symbol is apparent in all phenomena.
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  SPEAKER_01: Having abandoned the malaise of striving since one already has it.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_01: through the spontaneity of presence.
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  SPEAKER_01: One simply leaves it as it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's hard sometimes not to fix it.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: You know, there's an urge to fix the top note that's falling down.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I noticed it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It can do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's an urge to
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  SPEAKER_02: Poke at everything around you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Make a pretty pattern of it.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_02: There's this constant urge to fix everything.
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  SPEAKER_02: Improve everything.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_02: And all those motions create karma.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_02: And all that karma is going to take time to unwind.
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  There are methods to allow it to unwind faster but it's still
• 53:26
  got to unwind.
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  SPEAKER_01: The Buddha sat for six years
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  SPEAKER_01: not poking while it unwound.
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  He also almost starved to death in the process because he
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  wasn't bothering to feed himself.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: And then a woman gave him a nice pudding.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: I don't remember.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: There's descriptions of exactly what was in it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Rice.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was a rice pudding.
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  and it was enough calories to give him the energy to sit there
• 54:13
  energized where the
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  final bit of it ran down and Mara's sons and daughters danced
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  in front of them.
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  SPEAKER_01: They will.
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  Even in little symbols,
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  as you go on with the practice of Zogjan,
• 54:29
  you're going to get danced at.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: You're going to get offered sometimes anything you could possibly want.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_03: Don't grab it.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_03: Can you do that?
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_03: The house you've always wanted.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe it's wealth or maybe it's love.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe it's beauty.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_02: Whatever it is, you're going to get offered it.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_02: Can you not grab
• 55:03
  Whatever you fear,
• 55:04
  your biggest fear is gonna come and knock on your door and
• 55:10
  chase you.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_01: Can you not run?
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_02: You gotta practice.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_02: Until you don't.
• 55:31
  Both practice and not practice Fall into either or if you still
• 55:38
  hold either or It's
• 55:40
  only when you don't hold either or I am either practicing or
• 55:46
  not practicing I am
• 55:49
  either trying to fix it Or I am intentionally refraining from
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  fixing it Which is a
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_01: deed Refraining is a deed
• 56:01
  For as long as you're caught in either or and cannot have two
• 56:07
  opposite concepts be
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_01: the same thing for you,
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_01: then this won't make sense.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_01: Thoughts and not thoughts.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_02: Stillness and moving.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_02: The yoga of dancing stillness.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_02: Chultra Naljur.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_02: which leads from Shini without an object to Laktong in Mahamudra.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_02: Again,
• 56:38
  you're taking two things that are complete opposites and you
• 56:42
  are recognizing that
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_02: they are one thing.
• 56:47
  And that's where you start with the thoughts because you can
• 56:50
  get at them real easy.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_02: They're right there.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_01: And you watch them.
• 57:01
  And you look at them,
• 57:01
  not listen to them,
• 57:02
  not hear what they say,
• 57:03
  just look at them.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you see that they have no substance.
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  SPEAKER_01: That each one of them is totally lacking in duration.
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  SPEAKER_01: And in order to make sense and do anything, they have to hook together.
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  SPEAKER_01: See, the thoughts are called noms.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_02: The little hooks are called talks.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_02: Talk.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_02: Talk.
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  so these little tiny thoughts that don't even exist for an
• 57:38
  instant hook themselves
• 57:41
  together making ideas sensible ideas see if you can isolate a
• 57:49
  single thought and
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_01: watch it happen and vanish they're proto-ideas
• 58:13
  see how fast they are slow them down a little bit in through
• 58:17
  your nose and out
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_01: slowly through your mouth you see every so often they sort of gel
• 58:44
  Like dropping a crystal into a supersaturated solution and all
• 58:48
  of a sudden you have
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_01: a crystalline substance.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_01: You watch them multiply.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_03: So you stay with singles.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_03: These little tiny nams, the proto-thoughts.
• 59:11
  Every so often they'll gel into a phrase,
• 59:14
  which means they got stuck together,
• 59:15
  they hooked.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_01: Don't follow them into paragraphs, not even sentences.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_01: You catch a phrase happening, leave it be.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_01: Don't try to fix it, don't do anything with it.
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_01: Come back to the momentary nouns.
• 59:44
  You see how these little tiny bits of thought,
• 59:49
  proto-thoughts,
• 59:51
  neither are nor aren't.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_01: They have no duration, no substance.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_01: For something to exist, it needs to exist over a period of time.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_01: Even the tiniest short-lived atomic particles, you can measure a
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_01: a period in which they exist.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_01: These little proto-thoughts you can't.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_01: They also need to have some form of matter, even as a tiny particle.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_01: These little proto-thoughts, you can't find an electric charge in them.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_01: They're neither negative nor positively charged.
• 1:00:33
  You cannot get them to show up on film like you can with even
• 1:00:36
  the tiniest particles
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_01: in quantum physics.
• 1:00:43
  They're less existent than those and those are really not very
• 1:00:47
  existent at all.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_03: There are no thoughts.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_03: It's all stillness.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_03: There is no difference between the stillness and the moving.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_03: This is the key of Trul Tranaljor, the yoga of dancing stillness.
• 1:01:12
  the stepping past the duality of is is and isn't about thought
• 1:01:18
  about moving
• 1:01:20
  phenomena and emptiness all phenomena is emptiness heart sutra
• 1:01:32
  form is emptiness
• 1:01:33
  emptiness is form Gautama said that way back in the beginning
• 1:01:40
  what you didn't
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_01: listen
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know how many times my teacher had to tell me this before it went in?
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_01: Thousands.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm there as his translator.
• 1:01:56
  He's doing the pointing out and showing Zogchen and showing how
• 1:02:00
  to do this.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_02: Every teaching, I wander around the world with him.
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_02: Every teaching he does this.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_02: I translate the words into English.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't go in.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not getting it.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying.
• 1:02:21
  I'm meditating as hard as I can,
• 1:02:23
  you know,
• 1:02:25
  in my breaks and stuff,
• 1:02:26
  and I'm still not getting it.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_01: Finally, it's like, ah, fuck it.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to get this.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't have the right karma.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm too all over the place.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm too thinky, thinker, creative, too emotional, too everything.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_01: Never going to get this.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_01: However,
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_01: let me just,
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_01: instead of spending my time practicing,
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_01: give that a,
• 1:02:48
  I'm just going to work on my Tibetan so I can be the best
• 1:02:52
  possible translator so
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_01: that maybe somebody else will get it.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_01: The next time he gave it, it went in.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_03: I stopped trying.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_03: Guess what?
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_03: Nothing went in.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_03: Because everything and nothing is the same thing.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta let go of the duality.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_01: In all the ways it symbolically manifests.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_01: Self and other.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_02: Noun and verb.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_02: Doer and Deed, Thingy and Perceiver of Thingy.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_03: You just gotta let go of the separations.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_03: Questions, any?
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_02: You in the back.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_00: So when I'm residing in this,
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_02: No, you're adding intuition.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_02: There's something called the flow.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_02: You can't do it on purpose.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_02: There's a retreat called the Outer Body Ruchen.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_02: which attempts to teach you how to do it.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_02: How to respond without correcting everything.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_02: First time I taught it, it was for three days.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody got it.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_01: No, it was for three or four days.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_01: So the next time I taught it, it was for 11 days.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody got it.
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_02: Next time I taught it, it was for 21 days.
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  SPEAKER_02: A couple of people got it.
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  SPEAKER_02: You need a very special place to teach in.
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  SPEAKER_01: We used to teach it at the Dharma Center,
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_01: but they had a change of board and changed some of their policies.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_01: So we haven't been doing that lately.
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  I'm still looking for another place on this continent,
• 1:05:40
  whether in America or in Canada.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_01: It needs enough housing, which is why Carol's doesn't work.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_01: But it needs to be way out in the wild somewhere.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_01: And it needs cooperative land spirits.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_03: Other questions?
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_02: Now, maybe I can say more to that.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_02: about what the flow is.
• 1:06:20
  SPEAKER_02: Don't try this.
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  If sometimes it happens to you,
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  don't notice that it happened or attempt to maintain it.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_02: No grabby.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_02: You'll squish it.
• 1:06:37
  SPEAKER_02: When you're just sitting there and you have an itch,
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_02: generally you don't decide to scratch the itch or not.
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  It just happens that your hand scratches the itch and then you
• 1:06:51
  feel better.
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  So it kind of is like that when you are truly able to relax
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  into non-duality.
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  let go and leave be you don't need to refrain from doing
• 1:07:19
  because that's a doing I'm
• 1:07:21
  refraining to refrain is a verb and you mustn't verb see if you
• 1:07:34
  can sit around and
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  SPEAKER_02: just not verb it's not based on thought
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_02: Thoughts are still doing that,
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_02: but if someone calls your name,
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_02: you say,
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_02: yeah,
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_02: without having to think about doing that or not.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_02: If the cat jumps in your lap,
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_02: you tend to pet it without having to think about doing that or not.
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_02: So it's kind of like that.
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  SPEAKER_02: It happens sometimes.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_02: It never lasts.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes you get the hang of it,
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_02: you have it happen in that retreat,
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  SPEAKER_02: which involves exhausting your doing on many levels.
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  I think that's the only way I can say,
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  yes,
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  it does still flow to be happening.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_02: But you can't make it do that.
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_01: When I was a small child, that would occasionally happen to me.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'd fall into the flow.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_02: But I didn't know what it was or what made it happen.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_02: I kept trying to see if, you know, maybe there was a drug that did it.
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_01: Didn't find one.
• 1:09:13
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it happened on acid, but not always.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_01: Not reliable.
• 1:09:20
  I probably tried every one that was available in those days to
• 1:09:22
  see if that would do it.
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_01: It happens when you give up.
• 1:09:37
  Milarepa was trying to get,
• 1:09:39
  you know,
• 1:09:41
  Marpa was trying to get Milarepa to give up
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_01: to hit that full fuck.
• 1:09:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm done.
• 1:09:56
  SPEAKER_01: Because then the resistance is also done and it goes in.
• 1:10:02
  SPEAKER_02: The resistance is the self-survival instinct.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_02: When you're no longer maintaining your survival, you open up.
• 1:10:17
  SPEAKER_02: Your shields are down.
• 1:10:20
  Getting a person to lower their shields for Zogchen can be a
• 1:10:29
  over a lot of time endeavor.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_01: And over the centuries we've developed a lot of tricks to make it easier.
• 1:10:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like nundros.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of people can't even try Zogchen because it's
• 1:10:44
  they break out into an anxiety attack every time they glimpse
• 1:10:48
  their mind then you
• 1:10:52
  send them over to the Lopan to learn Tantra and so that they
• 1:10:58
  don't get too squeaky
• 1:11:00
  with the Tantra and do themselves a channel mischief the Lopano
• 1:11:05
  is going to run
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_01: them through an extraordinary Nundro first in Dzogchen we have Nundros
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  but they're not first they're prescribed as needed to
• 1:11:22
  individuals if reality is too
• 1:11:27
  SPEAKER_02: tight speech russian if you can't quite get past
• 1:11:43
  SPEAKER_02: The doer, the doing, and the done to.
• 1:11:46
  SPEAKER_02: That level of duality.
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_02: Outer body.
• 1:11:55
  SPEAKER_02: If you've got clogs in a chakra,
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_02: PTSDs and stuff like that,
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_02: inner body,
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_02: that are interrupting you.
• 1:12:04
  SPEAKER_02: Certain patterns.
• 1:12:06
  SPEAKER_02: So we tend to prescribe these when you're stuck somewhere.
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_01: which is why we like to get to know our students a bit,
• 1:12:15
  which is why I've got those ongoing groups of 50 people where I
• 1:12:19
  slowly over time
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_01: get to know people.
• 1:12:23
  SPEAKER_01: Because if I don't know you well, I can't prescribe.
• 1:12:28
  SPEAKER_01: I can guess.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes I guess right.
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_03: They tell me.
• 1:12:36
  SPEAKER_03: Other questions?
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, Tasha.
• 1:12:42
  Is Dzogchen practice for now,
• 1:12:44
  for time of death,
• 1:12:45
  or for a better rebirth?
• 1:12:54
  They say that Sutrayana and the practice of the six paramitas
• 1:13:02
  will get you a better rebirth.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_01: They say that Tantra
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_01: can bring you to enlightenment in one life and doing Poa,
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_01: if you are trained in it at the time of death,
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_01: will bring you forth into enlightenment.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_01: Zogchen is now.
• 1:13:28
  SPEAKER_01: When you actually don't do the Zogchen, when you recognize the Zogchen,
• 1:13:40
  The enlightenment is now and in every now in the entire past,
• 1:13:45
  present and future.
• 1:13:47
  SPEAKER_03: But it's not personal.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_03: You don't get it.
• 1:13:59
  SPEAKER_02: You aren't even there to get it.
• 1:14:02
  SPEAKER_02: You're a clump.
• 1:14:04
  SPEAKER_02: The clump continues clumpishly clumping.
• 1:14:09
  SPEAKER_02: It will.
• 1:14:18
  but the enlightenment which has always been there from
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  beginningless to endless is
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  SPEAKER_02: apparent,
• 1:14:29
  SPEAKER_02: obvious.
• 1:14:32
  SPEAKER_02: And you are among it as is everyone else.
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  And you don't have to think that to be there or feel it or even
• 1:14:44
  perceive it.
• 1:14:46
  SPEAKER_02: It just is.
• 1:14:51
  SPEAKER_02: This is the certainty mentioned in Garagdurji's three words.
• 1:14:59
  SPEAKER_01: To develop absolute certainty is the third final point.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_02: Gom.
• 1:15:06
  Checking to see if the mind is still there repeatedly as you go
• 1:15:11
  about your day is a
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  SPEAKER_02: method of bringing forth that certainty.
• 1:15:21
  SPEAKER_01: which is why it's such a good practice.
• 1:15:23
  This is why Garib Dorji's map of Zogchen,
• 1:15:27
  the how-to,
• 1:15:31
  is one of the most beautiful ones.
• 1:15:35
  SPEAKER_01: And it is the main teaching text in the Nyingma lineage.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's just so simple and it works.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_02: Why go for the complex?
• 1:16:14
  To what extent does a profound nonconceptual state appear as an
• 1:16:21
  object of the intellect?
• 1:16:24
  Since an experience of profound nonconceptuality is experience,
• 1:16:32
  that is not the case.
• 1:16:36
  SPEAKER_01: You are made of experiences.
• 1:16:41
  You are changed continuously by experiences When you experience
• 1:16:47
  something enough,
• 1:16:49
  you reflect it like a mirror You look at people who have been
• 1:16:55
  imprisoned And had to
• 1:16:57
  sleep on a little cot for a long time And they get out and they
• 1:17:02
  can't sleep on a
• 1:17:03
  SPEAKER_02: big bed They gotta,
• 1:17:04
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 1:17:05
  SPEAKER_02: pile stuff on it until it's a little cot
• 1:17:09
  They still keep the routine from prison up at that hour and
• 1:17:13
  eating at those hours
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_02: and going to bed at the lights out hour.
• 1:17:19
  SPEAKER_02: The pattern has gone in.
• 1:17:23
  SPEAKER_02: So when you practice, the pattern goes in.
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  See if you can remember what you were like before you began
• 1:17:30
  practicing anything,
• 1:17:32
  SPEAKER_02: this lineage or another,
• 1:17:34
  SPEAKER_02: and why you wanted to.
• 1:17:46
  SPEAKER_01: I remember just feeling all fucked up.
• 1:17:49
  SPEAKER_02: Man, what a mess.
• 1:17:52
  SPEAKER_02: Feeling a total mess and wanting to fix it.
• 1:17:58
  SPEAKER_01: First, I thought the total mess was outside of me.
• 1:18:02
  SPEAKER_01: My life was a total mess.
• 1:18:05
  SPEAKER_01: So I studied witchcraft and spells.
• 1:18:11
  And then slowly over time I realized that it wasn't,
• 1:18:14
  the mess was not out there.
• 1:18:19
  SPEAKER_01: It was in here.
• 1:18:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I began studying methods that work for that.
• 1:18:34
  SPEAKER_01: That change the practitioner rather than adapt the outside.
• 1:18:40
  SPEAKER_01: I still get emails from people like, how do I get rich?
• 1:18:45
  SPEAKER_01: Give all your money away.
• 1:18:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's true, it works.
• 1:18:49
  SPEAKER_02: Just not that fast.
• 1:18:52
  SPEAKER_03: But it does work eventually.
• 1:19:01
  And they try to give it to me and I won't do that because
• 1:19:05
  that's not right.
• 1:19:05
  You don't tell people to give all their money away so they can
• 1:19:08
  get rich and then profit from it.
• 1:19:12
  SPEAKER_03: That would screw me up somewhere.
• 1:19:15
  SPEAKER_02: See, I have a me in here.
• 1:19:17
  I'm talking to you about know me,
• 1:19:19
  but that's all is,
• 1:19:21
  is,
• 1:19:22
  and isn'ts aren't.
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_02: So you can't say there isn't a me.
• 1:19:29
  SPEAKER_02: And you can't say there is, because both of those aren't.
• 1:19:37
  SPEAKER_03: In all ways, the Buddha spoke of the middle way.
• 1:19:48
  Debate over the characteristics of suchness is a teaching that
• 1:19:59
  does not penetrate the Dharma.
• 1:20:03
  So however profound the words that one speaks will never
• 1:20:09
  measure up to the true meaning.
• 1:20:15
  SPEAKER_02: Nothing I have said to you is true.
• 1:20:20
  It has all been kinda sorta in the direction of truth,
• 1:20:27
  kinda sorta maybe.
• 1:20:31
  SPEAKER_02: You gotta accept that.
• 1:20:33
  SPEAKER_02: The pointing finger is not the bell.
• 1:20:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna do that right now again for you.
• 1:20:38
  SPEAKER_01: You've all seen that online.
• 1:20:40
  SPEAKER_01: No matter how much I ring the finger, it will never ring.
• 1:20:43
  SPEAKER_01: The bell will ring.
• 1:20:47
  SPEAKER_02: So you gotta take the words
• 1:20:50
  SPEAKER_02: And don't go run off quoting the words.
• 1:20:53
  SPEAKER_02: You see this on Reddit.
• 1:20:56
  SPEAKER_02: Somebody's going,
• 1:20:56
  SPEAKER_02: well,
• 1:20:57
  SPEAKER_02: my teacher said this and this,
• 1:20:58
  and it's obviously an instruction for them to get over their
• 1:21:02
  obvious glitch.
• 1:21:05
  SPEAKER_01: So all people should do this and this.
• 1:21:10
  SPEAKER_01: And then they argue about it.
• 1:21:15
  SPEAKER_01: When I want a good laugh, I go read Dharma Reddit.
• 1:21:19
  SPEAKER_03: It's funny.
• 1:21:26
  SPEAKER_02: You gotta let go of the words and look at what they're pointing at.
• 1:21:35
  SPEAKER_02: To do that, you gotta do the practice until you are ready to let go.
• 1:21:43
  SPEAKER_01: If you let go too soon, nothing happens.
• 1:21:49
  SPEAKER_03: If you let go just right on time,
• 1:21:55
  SPEAKER_03: No thing happens.
• 1:21:59
  SPEAKER_02: Because it's already there.
• 1:22:03
  SPEAKER_02: It always has been.
• 1:22:04
  SPEAKER_02: And it always will be.
• 1:22:07
  SPEAKER_02: You cannot lose it.
• 1:22:09
  SPEAKER_02: Kathak, primordial purity.
• 1:22:12
  SPEAKER_02: Unsellable.
• 1:22:15
  SPEAKER_02: Your innate Buddha nature is utterly unfuckuppable.
• 1:22:19
  SPEAKER_02: Even Trump.
• 1:22:23
  SPEAKER_02: his innate Buddha nature is just fine.
• 1:22:27
  Even Miller is going to have a hard time for a few lives,
• 1:22:32
  but that happens.
• 1:22:36
  SPEAKER_01: We dig ourselves into holes, but it won't hurt his Buddha nature.
• 1:22:44
  SPEAKER_01: It can't.
• 1:22:47
  SPEAKER_01: He'll just get his personality into a serious hole and
• 1:22:52
  SPEAKER_01: have to spend a while getting back out.
• 1:22:57
  SPEAKER_03: Other questions?
• 1:23:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yes?
• 1:23:04
  SPEAKER_00: When you were talking about observing your thoughts but not like reading,
• 1:23:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think of it like reading my thoughts.
• 1:23:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, don't read them.
• 1:23:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm reading them, I'm just like, I'm reading my thoughts.
• 1:23:17
  And I feel like it's sometimes I have the experience of like
• 1:23:20
  observing without
• 1:23:28
  SPEAKER_02: There's a way to get that to happen.
• 1:23:34
  SPEAKER_02: Use all the tricks.
• 1:23:42
  SPEAKER_01: Get somebody to check your position.
• 1:23:44
  SPEAKER_01: Make sure it's not off.
• 1:23:46
  SPEAKER_01: This is not usually how you sit.
• 1:23:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:23:50
  SPEAKER_01: So on your cushion,
• 1:23:52
  SPEAKER_01: get a friend to check your position that you're not,
• 1:23:54
  SPEAKER_01: without knowing it,
• 1:23:55
  SPEAKER_01: leaning one way or the other.
• 1:23:57
  SPEAKER_01: I would think you might be leaning back a bit.
• 1:24:01
  SPEAKER_01: Leaning back makes them faster and louder.
• 1:24:07
  Leaning forwards makes them slower and quieter,
• 1:24:12
  but if you do it too much,
• 1:24:13
  you get depressed.
• 1:24:15
  SPEAKER_01: So you really want to be just direct upright.
• 1:24:18
  SPEAKER_01: Pay attention to that.
• 1:24:21
  SPEAKER_02: Pay attention to relaxing all the muscles and channels first.
• 1:24:27
  SPEAKER_01: Even do that little self-hypnosis thing,
• 1:24:30
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 1:24:30
  SPEAKER_01: where you do the toes and the legs and the knees and the fingertips.
• 1:24:36
  SPEAKER_01: You relax everything.
• 1:24:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's a Western thing, but it might help.
• 1:24:40
  SPEAKER_01: Get your body nice and relaxed and comfortable.
• 1:24:46
  Depending on if you have any scoliosis,
• 1:24:49
  use a meditation sash or a backrest.
• 1:24:53
  so that you have no physical pain disturbing you or as little
• 1:24:57
  as possible.
• 1:25:00
  SPEAKER_01: Take your glasses off.
• 1:25:05
  SPEAKER_01: Do the breathing.
• 1:25:09
  SPEAKER_01: Mouth and nose together,
• 1:25:10
  SPEAKER_01: mouth slightly open,
• 1:25:12
  SPEAKER_01: lips slightly open,
• 1:25:14
  SPEAKER_01: teeth not touching,
• 1:25:16
  SPEAKER_01: tongue naturally on by the roof of the mouth in its natural position.
• 1:25:21
  SPEAKER_01: All these little details will make a difference when you add them up.
• 1:25:26
  SPEAKER_01: In breath is shorter and faster than out breath by just a little.
• 1:25:32
  SPEAKER_01: The breathing is smooth, easy and natural.
• 1:25:36
  SPEAKER_01: If you have to focus your attention to get that breath pattern,
• 1:25:39
  that's an entire exercise of itself is paying attention to the
• 1:25:43
  breath pattern until
• 1:25:44
  SPEAKER_01: it's easy and automatic.
• 1:25:51
  SPEAKER_01: Let the thoughts be.
• 1:25:57
  SPEAKER_01: So you're thinking about the breath pattern.
• 1:25:58
  SPEAKER_01: You're thinking about what you're doing.
• 1:26:00
  SPEAKER_01: All those thoughts.
• 1:26:02
  SPEAKER_01: Don't stop them.
• 1:26:03
  SPEAKER_01: Don't try to do anything about them.
• 1:26:05
  SPEAKER_01: Let them be just as they are.
• 1:26:10
  SPEAKER_01: Little kids playing in the sandbox.
• 1:26:19
  SPEAKER_03: Now shift your attention.
• 1:26:24
  SPEAKER_03: from the thoughts past them to an open emptiness.
• 1:26:48
  SPEAKER_03: Can you take your attention off the thoughts and shift it
• 1:26:55
  SPEAKER_01: past,
• 1:26:56
  SPEAKER_01: beyond,
• 1:26:58
  SPEAKER_01: to where the thoughts are happening,
• 1:27:01
  SPEAKER_01: to mind itself rather than what is being thought in mind.
• 1:27:07
  SPEAKER_01: The analogy is matter moves in space, thoughts move in mind.
• 1:27:12
  SPEAKER_01: Mind is infinite like space.
• 1:27:16
  SPEAKER_03: So it's this, now that's a thought.
• 1:27:22
  SPEAKER_03: See if you can
• 1:27:24
  SPEAKER_02: Not see it with your eyes, but feel it with your feelings.
• 1:27:33
  SPEAKER_02: See it with your Yi.
• 1:27:40
  Drop the center of yourself down into your solar plexus rather
• 1:27:45
  than your head.
• 1:27:49
  SPEAKER_03: Take your glasses off.
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_03: Without your glasses on things around you are a little fuzzy.
• 1:28:06
  SPEAKER_03: Let the thoughts become a little fuzzy.
• 1:28:12
  SPEAKER_03: Transparent.
• 1:28:24
  SPEAKER_03: Look through them.
• 1:28:31
  SPEAKER_03: past them.
• 1:28:35
  There is an infinite openness which itself is fascinating for
• 1:28:43
  its vastness.
• 1:28:49
  SPEAKER_03: It is everywhere and nowhere.
• 1:28:54
  SPEAKER_03: Refrain now
• 1:28:58
  Do not bother thinking about it,
• 1:29:00
  for it's bigger than your thoughts can imagine.
• 1:29:05
  No matter how good your imagination of thoughts is,
• 1:29:09
  this is bigger,
• 1:29:11
  deeper,
• 1:29:14
  stiller,
• 1:29:16
  emptier.
• 1:29:22
  SPEAKER_03: Relax.
• 1:29:26
  SPEAKER_03: Relax again.
• 1:29:30
  Frequently a bunch of thoughts will crystallize into a phrase
• 1:29:34
  and catch your attention.
• 1:29:37
  When that happens simply notice it happened and release it with
• 1:29:44
  your attention and
• 1:29:45
  SPEAKER_03: return to the vastness behind where those were dancing.
• 1:29:59
  again and again return to the vastness infinite and open empty
• 1:30:12
  of characteristics
• 1:30:16
  SPEAKER_03: vast beyond your wildest imagination no color no shape no sound
• 1:30:31
  No thing No where No there Beyond is and isn't This is Semnyi
• 1:30:51
  Tawa Mind itself When
• 1:30:57
  SPEAKER_01: you find yourself distracted by a thought
• 1:31:01
  SPEAKER_01: which will happen several times a minute in the beginning.
• 1:31:06
  SPEAKER_01: Do not bemoan it or berate yourself for distraction.
• 1:31:13
  SPEAKER_01: Simply let go and return.
• 1:31:17
  SPEAKER_01: Let go and return to this vastness.
• 1:31:20
  SPEAKER_01: This is the Tibetan idea of mindfulness.
• 1:31:25
  SPEAKER_01: Noticing you've been distracted
• 1:31:29
  releasing the distraction without feeling bad about it and
• 1:31:37
  returning to the
• 1:31:41
  SPEAKER_03: infinitude of open awareness with your attention.
• 1:31:48
  SPEAKER_01: You're breaking a habit is all.
• 1:31:52
  SPEAKER_03: You've been listening to your thoughts from beginningless time.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now you're going to try something new.
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  SPEAKER_03: Takes a while to develop a new habit.
• 1:32:05
  SPEAKER_03: So that's why you practice.
• 1:32:10
  SPEAKER_03: Did you have a little time there?
• 1:32:14
  SPEAKER_03: That's how you do it.
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  As per those instructions,
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  the trick is it won't last more than a few moments for you now.
• 1:32:25
  SPEAKER_01: And you'll fall off the horse.
• 1:32:28
  SPEAKER_02: Get back on.
• 1:32:31
  SPEAKER_02: Over time, it will last longer.
• 1:32:35
  Because the habit of point focusing on the moving will slowly
• 1:32:42
  release itself.
• 1:32:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a cramp.
• 1:32:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's like you have OCD.
• 1:32:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's OCD on paying attention to the moving.
• 1:32:51
  SPEAKER_01: Obsessive compulsive.
• 1:32:53
  SPEAKER_01: All of us do.
• 1:32:55
  SPEAKER_01: And we're trying to break that.
• 1:32:59
  SPEAKER_01: Takes time.
• 1:33:00
  SPEAKER_01: You just got to put the time in.
• 1:33:05
  SPEAKER_03: Other questions?
• 1:33:10
  SPEAKER_03: Perhaps Q?
• 1:33:11
  For the display to complete itself,
• 1:33:18
  the karma,
• 1:33:19
  good and bad karma,
• 1:33:21
  has to unwind.
• 1:33:24
  SPEAKER_00: So still one has to do...
• 1:33:28
  Karma is not going to unwind until you are old enough to truly
• 1:33:34
  lead a yogi's life.
• 1:33:36
  SPEAKER_00: As a householder, you must pursue
• 1:33:56
  You flee debt You pursue fulfilling your responsibilities to
• 1:34:05
  children and partners
• 1:34:11
  So it's not going to unwind until you get to retire and put
• 1:34:17
  your time into it and
• 1:34:20
  SPEAKER_02: stop poking because you've got to poke when you're a householder
• 1:34:24
  there is a way through for a householder if you can relax into
• 1:34:39
  the flow it will
• 1:34:44
  SPEAKER_01: unwind in order for karma to be created someone has to create it
• 1:34:53
  SPEAKER_01: When you let go of someone-ness,
• 1:35:00
  SPEAKER_01: of nouns and verbs,
• 1:35:02
  SPEAKER_01: of being a noun that verbs,
• 1:35:07
  SPEAKER_01: a subject that does things to an object that verbs an object,
• 1:35:13
  it begins to open and wind down while you're living through the
• 1:35:17
  householder life,
• 1:35:19
  SPEAKER_01: hence MARPA.
• 1:35:21
  SPEAKER_01: It has been done.
• 1:35:24
  Read Buddha's Lions As one of the versions I like the art in
• 1:35:35
  What's the other book?
• 1:35:39
  SPEAKER_02: No,
• 1:35:39
  SPEAKER_02: it's Buddha's Lions It's the Mahasiddhas of North India Yeah But no,
• 1:35:49
  SPEAKER_01: not Songs of Mahasiddhas It's another one that talks about hundreds of
• 1:35:54
  SPEAKER_01: or maybe a hundred of them.
• 1:35:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's not just eight.
• 1:35:57
  SPEAKER_01: And it's got their songs.
• 1:35:59
  SPEAKER_01: But one version is called Buddhist Lions.
• 1:36:04
  SPEAKER_01: But there's another printing and translation that I like better.
• 1:36:09
  SPEAKER_01: Does anyone remember the name of it?
• 1:36:12
  SPEAKER_01: Magicians of North India or Magic of North?
• 1:36:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's on the reading list on the website.
• 1:36:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's on the reading list on the website.
• 1:36:21
  SPEAKER_02: There you go.
• 1:36:23
  go find the real name there you know it's the silver hair and
• 1:36:26
  the brains go yes
• 1:36:42
  once you've done Ruchen effectively you shouldn't have to do it
• 1:36:49
  again then you come
• 1:36:51
  SPEAKER_01: and you cook
• 1:36:53
  or you do some of the work while other people do ruchan in the
• 1:37:02
  back corner can't
• 1:37:06
  SPEAKER_02: hear you could you stand up or be louder one can yes
• 1:37:23
  In Tibet,
• 1:37:25
  the kids have phones and they spend all day on their phones
• 1:37:30
  too.
• 1:37:31
  SPEAKER_00: In India, yeah, they do that too, except sometimes they watch television.
• 1:37:35
  SPEAKER_00: Kids are kids.
• 1:37:54
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what's going to come of all day on their phones.
• 1:37:56
  SPEAKER_01: We spent all day playing as kids and it did us no damage.
• 1:38:02
  SPEAKER_02: This is new.
• 1:38:07
  SPEAKER_03: But I can see that the thought is what bothers you.
• 1:38:20
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have a solution except to meditate past the thought.
• 1:38:23
  I can work with you on the thought of them being on their
• 1:38:26
  phones but I have no idea
• 1:38:30
  whether that is something one should do something about or not
• 1:38:33
  some people think it
• 1:38:34
  is and some people think it isn't outside of my experience like
• 1:38:43
  it had gotten
• 1:38:44
  SPEAKER_01: pretty much to teen years before they got a non-flip phone time
• 1:38:56
  How can you settle the Rigpa experience if everything is moving
• 1:39:02
  and even the
• 1:39:03
  SPEAKER_00: recognition of the Rigpa is moving,
• 1:39:05
  SPEAKER_00: which is a big problem.
• 1:39:06
  SPEAKER_00: If I don't practice, it's bad.
• 1:39:07
  SPEAKER_00: But if I practice, it's also bad.
• 1:39:11
  SPEAKER_02: Practice.
• 1:39:12
  SPEAKER_01: You are still seeing the either or moving or not moving.
• 1:39:24
  SPEAKER_02: You and others.
• 1:39:27
  SPEAKER_01: Keep practicing until that, until the unreality of that becomes obvious.
• 1:39:37
  SPEAKER_01: Next.
• 1:39:39
  Why,
• 1:39:40
  if I grab something,
• 1:39:41
  it runs away,
• 1:39:42
  and if I flee something,
• 1:39:43
  it chases me?
• 1:39:46
  Why,
• 1:39:46
  if you step off a cliff,
• 1:39:48
  do you move quickly towards the center of the earth?
• 1:39:54
  SPEAKER_02: Natural Law?
• 1:39:57
  SPEAKER_02: You've noticed it's true, don't you, haven't you?
• 1:40:05
  SPEAKER_02: Other questions out here?
• 1:40:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 1:40:09
  SPEAKER_00: You described the chain of non-profits earlier,
• 1:40:13
  SPEAKER_00: and then you described,
• 1:40:16
  SPEAKER_00: or you pointed out,
• 1:40:17
  SPEAKER_00: the experience of non-by-itself.
• 1:40:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's a belief system.
• 1:40:26
  SPEAKER_00: That your mind gets muddy.
• 1:40:27
  SPEAKER_00: Stop believing that.
• 1:40:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's a story you're telling yourself.
• 1:40:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's a thought.
• 1:40:32
  SPEAKER_00: My mind gets muddy.
• 1:40:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, don't grab those things and slather them on yourself.
• 1:40:59
  SPEAKER_02: They're just feces, you know.
• 1:41:03
  SPEAKER_02: So when you're at work, do the quick glintzes.
• 1:41:05
  SPEAKER_02: Just simply keep checking to see if your mind is still there.
• 1:41:09
  At some point,
• 1:41:14
  you will become in a certainty that transcends coming and
• 1:41:19
  going.
• 1:41:20
  SPEAKER_02: For example, you stand up
• 1:41:25
  SPEAKER_02: Here, walk over there.
• 1:41:26
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, walk back to your chair.
• 1:41:31
  SPEAKER_02: Have a seat.
• 1:41:37
  As you perform those actions,
• 1:41:39
  how much were you thinking about the law of gravity?
• 1:41:44
  SPEAKER_02: And yet...
• 1:41:47
  SPEAKER_02: You were functioning according to the law of gravity to do that.
• 1:41:51
  SPEAKER_02: How do you take a step?
• 1:41:52
  SPEAKER_02: You put a foot in front of you, you lean forward, it goes down.
• 1:41:57
  SPEAKER_02: How do you sit in a chair?
• 1:41:58
  You bend your knees and then there's a last little drop of an
• 1:42:01
  inch or half an inch.
• 1:42:04
  SPEAKER_02: You trust that.
• 1:42:06
  How much time have you spent today wandering about drifting off
• 1:42:09
  and hitting the ceiling?
• 1:42:11
  SPEAKER_00: All day.
• 1:42:13
  SPEAKER_02: And yet you're absolutely sure
• 1:42:17
  SPEAKER_02: About gravity, you don't even think about it.
• 1:42:22
  SPEAKER_02: Tibetans,
• 1:42:23
  SPEAKER_02: interesting,
• 1:42:24
  one of the things that's hardest to shake loose in teaching
• 1:42:27
  Sogchen to a Tibetan is
• 1:42:29
  SPEAKER_01: the reality of up and down.
• 1:42:33
  SPEAKER_01: They have no experience like Australia on the other side of the earth.
• 1:42:37
  SPEAKER_01: So in their entire mythology and everything, up is always up.
• 1:42:43
  SPEAKER_01: And down is always down.
• 1:42:46
  So there's a chapter in Flight of Garuda that Rinpoche didn't
• 1:42:49
  want to teach to
• 1:42:50
  Westerners because it was too hard And it was all about cities
• 1:42:56
  being upside down to
• 1:42:57
  SPEAKER_01: where we are right now And I'm going,
• 1:42:59
  SPEAKER_01: yeah,
• 1:43:00
  SPEAKER_02: Perth What's the big deal about that?
• 1:43:05
  Everybody knows that He's like There are others that were of
• 1:43:12
  courses for Tibetans
• 1:43:13
  SPEAKER_01: that we got all tangled in
• 1:43:17
  So belief systems will trap you every time and everything you
• 1:43:27
  think is a belief
• 1:43:28
  SPEAKER_02: system if you repeatedly think that same thing.
• 1:43:32
  SPEAKER_02: So if you think your mind is sometimes muddy,
• 1:43:36
  SPEAKER_02: well,
• 1:43:36
  that's a belief system and you will experience the story you're
• 1:43:39
  telling yourself.
• 1:43:41
  SPEAKER_01: So you will experience that your mind is sometimes muddy.
• 1:43:46
  SPEAKER_01: Whereas if you don't think that, you won't experience that.
• 1:43:49
  SPEAKER_01: For example, I don't experience that.
• 1:43:59
  SPEAKER_02: It's not muddy.
• 1:44:03
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it has other sensations.
• 1:44:06
  SPEAKER_01: I have sensations.
• 1:44:09
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I'm tired.
• 1:44:12
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I'm bubbly.
• 1:44:14
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I'm drunk.
• 1:44:16
  Sometimes I'm sober Sometimes I've had enough coffee Sometimes
• 1:44:20
  I have not So yes,
• 1:44:25
  there continue to be experiences That's what I'm made of But
• 1:44:33
  the more I don't tell
• 1:44:35
  me stories about Or don't believe whatever story I tell me It's
• 1:44:40
  like the story that
• 1:44:41
  SPEAKER_01: I might be telling myself about Riding off in a spaceship
• 1:44:45
  SPEAKER_01: which I don't believe either.
• 1:44:47
  SPEAKER_01: But why would I think this one's real and that one isn't?
• 1:44:51
  SPEAKER_02: They're both stories made of thought.
• 1:44:54
  SPEAKER_02: For that to happen, you gotta keep those short glances of gum.
• 1:45:00
  SPEAKER_01: Keep looking at all times and on all occasions.
• 1:45:04
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever you're doing right while you're doing it,
• 1:45:07
  SPEAKER_01: notice the already known Dharmakaya nature of mind.
• 1:45:16
  SPEAKER_01: Just glance.
• 1:45:17
  SPEAKER_01: Don't try to keep it.
• 1:45:20
  SPEAKER_02: Don't hang on to it.
• 1:45:21
  SPEAKER_02: Don't grab it when you see it.
• 1:45:24
  SPEAKER_02: Just, you know, oh yeah, you're still there.
• 1:45:25
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 1:45:31
  SPEAKER_02: Over time, yes.
• 1:45:33
  SPEAKER_02: In the back or whoever it was.
• 1:45:36
  So,
• 1:45:37
  when life is fairly busy with working full-time and being a
• 1:45:42
  caregiver full-time,
• 1:45:47
  SPEAKER_00: A good book.
• 1:45:54
  SPEAKER_00: I have noticed
• 1:46:19
  SPEAKER_02: Just how relaxing for the bandwidth just sitting there can be.
• 1:46:26
  SPEAKER_02: But sometimes you need a good book.
• 1:46:30
  SPEAKER_02: Go right ahead.
• 1:46:33
  SPEAKER_02: You do not have to refrain from pleasure.
• 1:46:41
  SPEAKER_02: This is not Puritan.
• 1:46:45
  SPEAKER_02: Any pleasures that do no harm to others or yourself?
• 1:46:52
  SPEAKER_02: Go for it.
• 1:46:58
  SPEAKER_02: Ice cream is a pleasure.
• 1:47:00
  If you have lactose intolerance,
• 1:47:04
  do take your lactate so you can enjoy your pleasure.
• 1:47:10
  SPEAKER_02: Pleasure is not a sin.
• 1:47:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's Catholic.
• 1:47:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 1:47:18
  If I glimpse into the center of sensation or pain,
• 1:47:24
  it dissolves into fullness,
• 1:47:28
  momentarily.
• 1:47:29
  SPEAKER_02: It dissolves into?
• 1:47:31
  SPEAKER_00: Something whole.
• 1:47:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, okay.
• 1:47:34
  SPEAKER_00: Momentarily.
• 1:47:38
  I don't want to grab that,
• 1:47:40
  but I also would be grateful to be rid of the sensation.
• 1:47:46
  So working with sensations and being old is a great motivation
• 1:47:53
  to do that.
• 1:47:59
  SPEAKER_02: My experience has been that while sitting there,
• 1:48:07
  SPEAKER_02: treating the pain in the same way one would in emotions,
• 1:48:15
  SPEAKER_02: Locating the sensation Accepting the sensation As a sensation,
• 1:48:26
  but stripping it naked So getting its name pain off Which is a
• 1:48:31
  thought that's
• 1:48:32
  layered on it Getting its badness off Which is a series of
• 1:48:37
  thoughts layered on it
• 1:48:39
  So you just have a sensation in your body I'm looking at one of
• 1:48:43
  mine right now
• 1:48:50
  SPEAKER_01: Relaxing,
• 1:48:51
  SPEAKER_01: the way you get the clothes off sensation,
• 1:48:56
  SPEAKER_01: the stories about it,
• 1:48:58
  SPEAKER_01: the catastrophizing is the worst kind of story you can tell about pain,
• 1:49:03
  SPEAKER_01: but even the calling it pain is part of it,
• 1:49:07
  SPEAKER_01: is to look at the thought,
• 1:49:10
  SPEAKER_01: damn,
• 1:49:11
  SPEAKER_01: that hurts,
• 1:49:13
  SPEAKER_01: or however you express pain to yourself.
• 1:49:22
  SPEAKER_03: Look through it until you see the thoughts not being, not realness.
• 1:49:34
  SPEAKER_01: You're left with a sensation in a place without a name on the sensation.
• 1:49:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's just a sensation.
• 1:49:52
  SPEAKER_02: and you relax with it like that.
• 1:50:03
  SPEAKER_03: You can move things around and tell yourself it's a sensation of warmth,
• 1:50:08
  SPEAKER_01: which is what I'm doing now,
• 1:50:12
  SPEAKER_01: and turn pain into warmth.
• 1:50:17
  SPEAKER_03: Feels quite nice, actually, as warmth.
• 1:50:22
  You can play with it a little bit like that Just to see how
• 1:50:28
  important the story is
• 1:50:33
  It's a matter of leaving it simply sit there as a sensation Now
• 1:50:42
  you can take a pill
• 1:50:44
  when you want to get something done Because I can only do this
• 1:50:48
  when I'm sitting
• 1:50:48
  SPEAKER_01: still
• 1:50:50
  SPEAKER_01: When I sit down in the meditative position,
• 1:50:54
  SPEAKER_01: relax,
• 1:50:54
  SPEAKER_01: do the eye gaze,
• 1:50:57
  SPEAKER_01: I can work with about up to a seven in pain fairly easily,
• 1:51:04
  SPEAKER_01: and it just doesn't bother me as long as I'm sitting there.
• 1:51:07
  But anything above a five,
• 1:51:08
  and if I get up and try to make dinner,
• 1:51:11
  I'll be grouchy.
• 1:51:13
  SPEAKER_01: It just won't work well, especially for my family.
• 1:51:19
  SPEAKER_01: So I've learned,
• 1:51:20
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 1:51:21
  SPEAKER_01: when it hits a certain point,
• 1:51:22
  SPEAKER_01: if I do have to make dinner,
• 1:51:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'll take a pill.
• 1:51:26
  SPEAKER_01: If I don't have to do anything, then why bother to take a pill?
• 1:51:31
  SPEAKER_01: So a lot of times I forget to take them.
• 1:51:36
  If I forget to take them for a few days in a row because I'm so
• 1:51:40
  not busy like it's
• 1:51:41
  SPEAKER_01: a retreat or something,
• 1:51:45
  SPEAKER_01: then I tend to decide to just do one of my holidays.
• 1:51:49
  Because you have to do holidays for pain pills occasionally or
• 1:51:53
  your dose will creep
• 1:51:55
  You have to do a holiday for pain pills occasionally If it's
• 1:51:59
  non-steroidal
• 1:52:00
  anti-inflammatories you have to rest your kidneys If it's
• 1:52:04
  opiate or opiate
• 1:52:05
  derivatives you have to keep the dose from creeping So you take
• 1:52:10
  breaks I take
• 1:52:12
  SPEAKER_01: breaks when I'm not busy
• 1:52:26
  that worked for you once you've shifted it to this or that you
• 1:52:32
  will see how
• 1:52:33
  important the story is then you realize if you peel the story
• 1:52:38
  off you can just
• 1:52:39
  leave it a sensation you don't have to shift it by adding
• 1:52:44
  another story on top you
• 1:52:46
  SPEAKER_01: can leave it where it is
• 1:52:48
  SPEAKER_01: Only do this to pain that you know the reason for.
• 1:52:57
  There's a story of a guy who was doing this practice and it was
• 1:53:01
  very cold in the
• 1:53:02
  winter and he was sitting in front of the fire with his feet
• 1:53:05
  extended trying to
• 1:53:06
  SPEAKER_01: warm them and his feet started,
• 1:53:09
  he started to feel a pain in his foot and he ignored it and
• 1:53:13
  eventually somebody
• 1:53:14
  SPEAKER_01: noticed that his socks were on fire.
• 1:53:19
  SPEAKER_01: and he had, you know, some burns on his toes.
• 1:53:23
  So you really want to only do this exercise with pain when you
• 1:53:29
  know why that hurts.
• 1:53:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know the reason and why you're not treating it.
• 1:53:43
  SPEAKER_01: Another guy blew out his meniscus trying to sit in a full lotus
• 1:53:48
  for longer than he could after he hadn't for a while,
• 1:53:51
  shall we know,
• 1:53:51
  for his teacher.
• 1:53:55
  Yeah,
• 1:53:55
  and then he,
• 1:53:56
  of course,
• 1:53:56
  couldn't stand back up and we had to take him to the hospital.
• 1:54:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think this question and the first question is where I feel like I'm at.
• 1:54:09
  I'm having difficulty discerning when to scratch the itch or
• 1:54:14
  when to allow it
• 1:54:15
  SPEAKER_00: because I feel like I'm
• 1:54:18
  experiencing allowing it or not projecting a story and it um I
• 1:54:24
  actually needed to
• 1:54:25
  act okay so if you're holding the yarn while your partner's
• 1:54:30
  rolling making a ball
• 1:54:33
  you can't let go of the tension to scratch the itch so you
• 1:54:36
  don't whereas if you're
• 1:54:39
  not holding the yarn well why shouldn't you scratch the itch
• 1:54:44
  don't refrain from
• 1:54:47
  SPEAKER_02: fixed
• 1:54:49
  SPEAKER_02: Refraining is as much a deed as doing.
• 1:54:52
  So if you refrain from scratching the itch,
• 1:54:57
  it's the same as scratching the itch.
• 1:55:00
  SPEAKER_01: They were both doings.
• 1:55:02
  SPEAKER_01: One is I refrained.
• 1:55:05
  SPEAKER_01: The other is I scratched.
• 1:55:09
  SPEAKER_01: Still subject, verb, object.
• 1:55:12
  SPEAKER_01: The itch being the object in both cases.
• 1:55:15
  SPEAKER_02: Once you divide subject from object...
• 1:55:20
  SPEAKER_02: with a verb, I do to that.
• 1:55:25
  SPEAKER_02: You lose sight of the fact that you are that,
• 1:55:27
  SPEAKER_02: and that are you,
• 1:55:30
  SPEAKER_02: and that action between you is not you acting on it,
• 1:55:36
  SPEAKER_02: but rather a mutual interaction between you and an itch.
• 1:55:42
  SPEAKER_02: Did that make sense at all?
• 1:55:48
  SPEAKER_01: The verbs aren't real.
• 1:55:50
  SPEAKER_01: You made them up.
• 1:55:52
  SPEAKER_00: Can I add a second question to that?
• 1:55:54
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the verbs aren't real.
• 1:55:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm making them up.
• 1:55:59
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I'm getting thoughts,
• 1:56:01
  SPEAKER_00: feelings,
• 1:56:02
  SPEAKER_00: and intuitions from someone,
• 1:56:07
  SPEAKER_00: but I don't want to make it a story.
• 1:56:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't have evidence that that's what's happening.
• 1:56:14
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm assuming it's a story.
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  SPEAKER_01: But you and everyone are totally interconnected.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know when someone's sneaking up behind you, don't you?
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's your ye.
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  SPEAKER_02: You feel that?
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  Yes,
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  of course,
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  we're all getting thoughts,
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  feelings,
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  and intuitions from each other.
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  SPEAKER_02: All the time, why shouldn't we?
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  You're not getting it more from one person than other people
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  unless you're in a
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  SPEAKER_01: close love relationship with that person,
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  in which case you obsess with them and they obsess with you and
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  then you're doing
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  SPEAKER_01: more of a merge.
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  SPEAKER_01: We call the mating instinct the urge to merge.
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  SPEAKER_01: So in mating cases, yes, it is stronger.
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  SPEAKER_01: Also stronger with your dog.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know how very often dog owners and dogs come to resemble each other?
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  SPEAKER_01: This is why.
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  You know how by the time you're old,
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  you and your spouse often look exactly alike?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not happening with me and my spouse.
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  SPEAKER_01: We look so different.
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  SPEAKER_03: And our minds are incredibly, vastly different.
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  SPEAKER_03: She's endlessly fascinating.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'll never understand her.
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  SPEAKER_01: and she feels the same about me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, that was a digression.
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  SPEAKER_02: Have I answered your question?
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  SPEAKER_02: Any other last questions before we close for today?
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  SPEAKER_02: I have gifts for y'all.
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  For those of you out there who heard this in a language other
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  than English,
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  SPEAKER_02: be kind to your translator.
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  SPEAKER_02: Send them a little gift or at least a compliment
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  The ones who managed to turn up at this in such short notice
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  really busted their
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  SPEAKER_01: balls to get here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yodama thanks.
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  If you or anyone here wishes to merge their practice with our
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  yogis and yoginis out
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  SPEAKER_02: in Sopema who live up on the mountains
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  send me an email to that effect and I will put you in touch if
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  you want to support
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  our library which are the only books in town for the Tibetans
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  and the Indians Karen
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  is on the website and she is handling the accounting for that
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  so you would
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  SPEAKER_02: poker to do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Question in the back.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is there still a medical fund?
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  SPEAKER_02: There is,
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  but it's not separate from me because they left me to do the
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  accounting and I
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  SPEAKER_02: dislike accounting,
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  SPEAKER_02: so I just give away all my money when medicine is needed.
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  SPEAKER_02: It comes to probably about
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  SPEAKER_02: 6-8,000 a year maybe.
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  And then whatever medical fund comes in,
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  it's always never quite that much.
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  SPEAKER_01: So then I don't have to measure it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I do the library too that way.
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  SPEAKER_01: I just don't like to do accounting.
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  SPEAKER_01: When Karen does the library accounting, that's better.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's fiddly.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm too old to wear hurting shoes and do fiddly stuff or wear corsets.
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  SPEAKER_01: Come on.
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  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: We would like to offer you a long life prayer.
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  SPEAKER_02: Why thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: For anyone online who wants to do the long life prayer along with us,
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  SPEAKER_00: the link is under resources on the website.
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  For everyone here,
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  you can share printouts or there is a QR code on some of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: or just make nice sounds with your mouth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'll give people a second.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thumbs up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Of the trillions of knowledge holders,
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  SPEAKER_00: the chief is the supreme Nikajati,
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  SPEAKER_00: whose sunshine-like activity you pervade in every one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, into the pure wisdom magic of your heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, glorious teacher Yechekeito, may you live along.
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  SPEAKER_00: Slough Jen is the bikini's twilight speech, being firm and everlasting.
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  You are the bikini's primordial sound,
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  gathering the liveliness of space in the light.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yechekeito,
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  make the blind ones and all those with the eye open at the end
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  of space watch over
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  SPEAKER_00: you,
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  SPEAKER_00: watch within you,
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  SPEAKER_00: What has you, what's through you.
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  SPEAKER_00: I pray with the only prayer I know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Splendors protect us of supercontra,
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  SPEAKER_00: inexhaustibly protecting all in the blazing exams of luminosity,
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  SPEAKER_00: bright with the splendid fruit of the benefits of all.
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  SPEAKER_00: May your fortunate disciples shine forth abundantly,
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  SPEAKER_00: subsuming all worlds,
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  SPEAKER_00: singing songs of delivering auspiciousness,
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  SPEAKER_00: its marvelous sector,
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  SPEAKER_00: directly watching Walters,
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  SPEAKER_00: right here,
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  SPEAKER_00: being the great part of living in what you do.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not going to go back up.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, I'm turning the stream off.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bye, guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it good?