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- 0:00Hello and welcome. My name is Tavishima Aidi.
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- 0:47Now today on the podcasts, we are going to be looking at
- 0:50purple cows. Yes, I repeat, you heard me
- 0:53exactly. Today we're going to be talking
- 0:55about purple cows. And it's not because there's any
- 1:01such a thing as purple cows that exist.
- 1:03Excuse me. Especially since in this part of
- 1:05the world, we know that cows are either, you know, white or
- 1:09brownish or black. And then for those of us who
- 1:13lived in the UK, you know, in Scotland for a while, you know,
- 1:15you have reddish kind of cows, like brownish.
- 1:20But no, we're not talking about real cows.
- 1:21We're not talking about animals in the bovine family.
- 1:24We're talking about a book called Purple Cow that was
- 1:28written by Seth Godin in Child. What was he written down?
- 1:33I can't remember. I didn't write it down anyway.
- 1:36But the book is titled Purple Cow.
- 1:38Transform your business by being remarkable.
- 1:41Again, the author of the book is Seth Godin.
- 1:44That is Seth as in Seth, same guy in the Bible.
- 1:48Then I mean same name in the Bible but not the same guy of
- 1:50course. Then Goldin GODIN and the title
- 1:54of the book is Purple Cow. Then the subtitle Transform your
- 1:58business by being remarkable. Now, the reason why I want us to
- 2:04look at this book is because I've seen some chatter.
- 2:09I've seen some talk about how we can make our businesses purple
- 2:13cows. And yes, the book is a business
- 2:16book. Now, the thrust of this guy's
- 2:19book, Seth Golden is this. Oh, by the way, he has a blog
- 2:23where he blogs almost everyday. He blogs everyday shot.
- 2:26And to be honest, when I started off with my podcast, I figured I
- 2:30would, you know, do things in sort of like the same way that
- 2:33he's been doing it because he's been publishing his blog posts
- 2:39every day. And, you know, if you like it,
- 2:41you like it. If you don't like it, you don't
- 2:42like it. You know, if you don't like it,
- 2:44you can just go. You can buy a hog transformer.
- 2:46So that's his attitude, basically.
- 2:49So it's part of what inspired me when I started off this podcast.
- 2:51Like, OK, I'm going to be doing this thing every single day is
- 2:55going to be around sales. Sometimes we'll talk about
- 2:58things marketing related and you know, it's not this sexiest
- 3:02topic in the world. I knew it was not the kind of
- 3:04topic that will make lots of people come and listen to me.
- 3:07But you know, I forget what the heck.
- 3:08You know, if you like it, if you like it, if you don't like it,
- 3:10go on hog transformer. But you know, people who are
- 3:12interested in these sorts of things will come.
- 3:15So Seth Godin, SETHGODIN, you can check out his, his, his
- 3:23blog. So now Seth Godin's thesis in
- 3:28the book is this. Seth says that if you want to
- 3:32succeed in business, you know, you want to hammer like you want
- 3:34to thrive, you want to colonize the market, you want people to
- 3:37know who you are, you want everybody to feel you.
- 3:40That is not enough to just be good or it's not just enough to
- 3:43be very good. Let me repeat, There are lots of
- 3:47us who are starting off in business and want to be good at
- 3:50what we do or we want to be very good.
- 3:53And that's what we're hoping is going to take us through.
- 3:55Now, Sir, Gooding is saying if you're trying to be good or if
- 3:58you're trying to be very good, that Omar is not enough anymore.
- 4:02Because with the kind of marketing that we have nowadays,
- 4:07you know, marketing messages everywhere, whether TV or radio,
- 4:10online, offline, billboard, any which way, advertisement,
- 4:14advertisement everywhere, being good or being very good is not
- 4:18enough. Because marketing saturated
- 4:22advertising, saturated content, marketing excess, there are lots
- 4:28of things that are pulling for people's attention.
- 4:29So he says if you're good or if you're very good, it's not going
- 4:32to cut it anymore. And in a way I agree because my,
- 4:37my, my own parents were old school, you know, professionally
- 4:39trained journalists. And of course, we're involved in
- 4:42media. So in that generation, they
- 4:44believed that, you know, why should I go and chase anybody?
- 4:47Like, I am who I am. I'm doing my thing.
- 4:49I'm a professional. The quality of my work will
- 4:52speak for itself. My professional reputation will
- 4:54speak for itself. So my parents didn't see any
- 4:57reason why they have to go and chase somebody.
- 4:59And it's part of what my father did when he started his own
- 5:02consulting practice when he was retired.
- 5:04He actually did not believe in chasing anybody as far as he was
- 5:07concerned. You know, my reputation precedes
- 5:09me. I will be here.
- 5:10People will come and look for me.
- 5:13And I can tell you first time, unfortunately, that you know,
- 5:14that's, that's not the case. Maybe there was a time in
- 5:18Nigeria when that was the case. Because let's face it, my own
- 5:21parents, I mean, I mean, at least my own parents anyway,
- 5:24that generation of Nigeria that were coming out from a lot of
- 5:26them who are getting jobs in the civil service or in the private
- 5:29sector, you know, the world like first or second generation.
- 5:35So it's not as if there were that many professionals around
- 5:39anyway. So in a small pool, if you are
- 5:42the dawn, how what you do, Of course, everybody will come and
- 5:45find you because you're a big fish in a small pond.
- 5:49But now the size of the pond has been drastically increased.
- 5:54Think about it, yes, If you want to look at my own family, my own
- 5:59small family, I think lawyers, if you take Parsi's generation
- 6:05and then my own generation, if you want, if you want to count
- 6:08the lawyers in my family, I don't think we're more than 3 or
- 6:124. Well then step back and look at
- 6:16things on a national scale. And Nigeria is producing
- 6:20hundreds of thousands of lawyers annually.
- 6:25So if it is a matter of big fish in a small pond in my family, I
- 6:28can sit down and you know, broad my chest, I say I'm a senior
- 6:32lawyer. But on a national level that
- 6:35means absolutely nothing because last year hundreds of lawyers,
- 6:40hundreds of thousands of lawyers were pumped into the market.
- 6:43This year, hundreds of thousands of lawyers be pumped into the
- 6:46market. And guess what?
- 6:47Next year, hundreds and thousands of lawyers who will be
- 6:50pumped into the market. So the era of big fish in a
- 6:55small pond does not exist anymore.
- 6:58The era of local champion does not exist.
- 7:01Again. You can say you're going to be
- 7:03good or very good, and that is what is going to make you
- 7:06succeed in business. Now, to that extent, I agree
- 7:08with what my man said. Gordon is saying I agree, So
- 7:13what do we need to make us successful in business?
- 7:14Now that's where Sir Gordon came in with this metaphor.
- 7:18He say you have to be a purple cow.
- 7:20Some of you are wondering what does cows have to do with
- 7:22anything? And this is it, Sir Gordon says
- 7:27you have to be a purple cow because look at it this way.
- 7:30So the Gordon says, if you're driving, let's say you leave
- 7:33Abuja, you want to drive to Jaws, you want to drive to, to
- 7:39Marco. Do you want to drive to your Bay
- 7:40or you want to travel back to Lagos?
- 7:42You're going by Rd. if you're going now.
- 7:44And then you see all this Malo people pushing their their cows
- 7:49and you see, OK, white cow, white cow, black cow, white cow,
- 7:54white cow, black cow. All of a sudden you see purple
- 7:56cow, you say you match break and you slow down.
- 7:59You say purple cow, you will stop, you will take notice, you
- 8:04will talk about it. You call your wife as in babe,
- 8:08you don't believe I'm on my way to you be right now and I have
- 8:13seen a purple cow as I am looking at the purple cow right
- 8:16now in front of me. This cow is purple babe, you
- 8:18don't believe. In fact, let me snap picture and
- 8:20I sent to you. So that's what Seth Godin said.
- 8:23And when you're driving down and you see cows just moving and you
- 8:27see one of them that is purple, you will stop.
- 8:30You will take notice, you will talk about it.
- 8:34So for Seth Godin, the purple cow is a metaphor in business,
- 8:37meaning that you have to make your business remarkable.
- 8:39You have to make your business exceptional.
- 8:42You have to make your business unique.
- 8:44You have to make your business worth talking about that that's
- 8:47the only way we can blow. Now.
- 8:50People have to see your business and say what?
- 8:53And then they stop. They notice and then they talk
- 8:58about it. And that's the only way we're
- 8:59going to blow because people are producing too much content.
- 9:03People are advertising too much on TV, too much content,
- 9:07Netflix, too much content, YouTube too much content.
- 9:10We need to be able to break out somehow.
- 9:12Shah, you know, breakout is when people see us, they stop, they
- 9:17notice, and then they talk about us.
- 9:20So I said Gordon says everybody's business should be a
- 9:22purple cow. What he's saying is just that
- 9:23you have to build a remarkable business straight up.
- 9:26And in that extent, you know, in a sense, I'll agree with him in
- 9:30a way. You will listen to the podcast.
- 9:33You already know that I disagree with him on one or two things,
- 9:35but you know, we'll get to that later.
- 9:36Let me start on where we agree. So, so Godin says that is how
- 9:40you build a remarkable business. He says that you should not be
- 9:43marketing driven. I repeat.
- 9:46So Godin says you should not be marketing driven.
- 9:48This is where me and him will start to disagree, small, small,
- 9:51small. Now, when he says the marketing
- 9:53driven business, this is the idea.
- 9:56There's some people that when they're ready to come into the
- 9:57markets, what they do is they create the product and then they
- 10:00make sure that, you know, you push out advertising or you push
- 10:04out the sales force or something like the thrust of the growth of
- 10:07the business is clearly marketing driven.
- 10:10You're trying to push the thing out into the market.
- 10:14Seth Godin is saying instead of thinking this is how we're going
- 10:17to market, market, market, he said, build a product or build a
- 10:21service that in itself is noteworthy and exceptional.
- 10:26And because of that, people will start to pursue you.
- 10:28I can see this where me and him start to disagree.
- 10:31This whole thing of product selling itself when we sure, let
- 10:34me complete what the guys book is saying.
- 10:38So he's saying that look, don't focus on marketing.
- 10:40Let your product, let it be noteworthy, let it be
- 10:44exceptional, let it be a purple cow.
- 10:46People will notice and people will say what?
- 10:49And they will rush to you. That's what said Gordon is
- 10:52saying. So he's saying don't just be
- 10:56very good, the product should be different.
- 11:00And then he talks about something he says design
- 11:03marketing into the product. So design it in a way that the
- 11:06product is worth talking about. Then Seth Gordon also says you
- 11:11should target early adopters. That is people who are eager for
- 11:14new ideas and people who are willing to talk about new ideas.
- 11:17He says go and chase those people because those are the
- 11:19kind of people that will sample your product or service and will
- 11:22call other people and say, oh boy, you won't believe what I
- 11:25found that babe, you'll believe what I just saw.
- 11:29So that's what he's saying. Then said Gordon also says
- 11:32embrace innovation and risk because if you play it safe,
- 11:36you'll be overrun. And in that case, I agree with
- 11:39him. If you're trying to play it
- 11:40safe, let us build a nice, OK business.
- 11:43Whatever, you will be overrun. Something will come out that is
- 11:47faster, cheaper, better, hotter, sexier, you know, whatever, you
- 11:51will be overrun. So we don't want to agree with
- 11:53him. So please, let's stop playing
- 11:55safer. That's not playing safe.
- 11:59Trust me, that's the reason why I started this podcast.
- 12:01If I was going to build my consultancy practice and build
- 12:04it the same way other people have were building the
- 12:06consultancy practice, there'll be no way for me to stand out.
- 12:09I needed something, so I took a gamble.
- 12:12I said OK, in Nigeria, people don't listen to podcasts, but
- 12:16I'm thinking that might change. And when that time changes, I
- 12:19want to be the only sales podcast on the Internet that
- 12:23Nigerians are going to flock to. And that was my goal.
- 12:28I haven't gotten here yet, but I'm making progress because lots
- 12:31of people when they find me, there's one thing that I hear
- 12:35like like 1 Babe said where have you been?
- 12:38All my life I have been looking, where have you been?
- 12:42I said I've been here, I've been here and people are glad when
- 12:47they see it. Now.
- 12:48I've been looking for a podcast that has to do with business
- 12:52growth, but from a Nigerian perspective because I'm tired of
- 12:55listening to American podcasts. So this is me.
- 13:00I'm not saying my own business is Purple Cow.
- 13:02I'm not saying that this is me trying not to play it safe,
- 13:06looking for a new angle, looking for something so when people see
- 13:10it, when they hear it, they will say what?
- 13:14You will not believe what I have heard.
- 13:17So that's my own angle so that people will say, babe, you told
- 13:22me you're looking for material how to grow your business in
- 13:26Nigeria. You don't believe what I just
- 13:28heard. There's something like this in
- 13:29Nigeria. The guy has been going on for
- 13:31close to like 5 years now, over 1000 episodes.
- 13:34You will not believe. Here's the link.
- 13:36So yes, me too. I'm playing some of these games
- 13:38now. Basically this what's up good in
- 13:43saying in this book, your business should be remarkable,
- 13:47your business should be exceptional, your business
- 13:49should be unique, your product or service should be unique and
- 13:52you should be worth talking about.
- 13:56But now I want to examine some ideas about how it overlaps.
- 13:59Now the book into how it overlaps into traditional sales,
- 14:03traditional marketing. Oh, by the way, in case I
- 14:05haven't figured out, I'm talking about this book from a very
- 14:08superficial level from the top. But I would beg of you that you
- 14:12guys go, if you can find the book and read it in a much more
- 14:17detailed level, you know, so you can understand it for yourself,
- 14:21chew it up for yourself, and so that you can also come to your
- 14:24own conclusions just in case. Me, I'm biased in the way that I
- 14:28am assessing the guy's work. So this is how I think is a book
- 14:33relates to traditional sales. Now, Seth Godin is doing this
- 14:37thing that lots of modern people like to do.
- 14:39And I'm sure that some of you who like that way of building
- 14:41business. So Seth Godin says, let's focus
- 14:44on attracting instead of selling.
- 14:49Again, Seth Godin says let's focus on attracting instead of
- 14:54focusing on selling. He's saying that we should let
- 14:57the product generate its own demand.
- 15:01The thing you are designing, the thing you're selling, you should
- 15:04let it determine its own demand. Of course, you already know what
- 15:08my thoughts on these things are, that there is no product that
- 15:11generates its own demand because even if the product has been
- 15:14made, it still requires a human being to talk to somebody about
- 15:18it, to position it a certain way.
- 15:20You know, you can't cut yourself out of the loop.
- 15:23But anyway, this is what says Gordon says let the product
- 15:28generate its own demand. And then he says that what we
- 15:31now need to do is to focus on educating the customer, on
- 15:35guiding people or facilitating conversations so that people who
- 15:39are already interested can buy. There's a problem that I have
- 15:44for people who are not sales professionals who start writing
- 15:48books like this. If you've been listening to my
- 15:51podcast from Day 1 / 1000 episodes, when I talk about
- 15:55selling, what exactly is it that I tell you guys to do?
- 15:59If I, if you listen to the last episode, the one that I made
- 16:02with the case study about the case study for Chinedu is in
- 16:06graphics design. How people who are in graphics
- 16:09design, how they can create brand ambassadors.
- 16:15Doesn't it sound like what I was telling you guys yesterday?
- 16:19Educating your customer, guiding your customer, facilitating the
- 16:23purchase through conversations? Is that not what I preach
- 16:25already? Is that not already the
- 16:28definition of sales? But then you have people who are
- 16:33not trained in these things, who are writing these books, very
- 16:36good at building all kinds of brands, and they make it look as
- 16:40if selling is one thing and then what they're preaching is
- 16:44something else. What Uncle Seth is preaching
- 16:48actually is sales. That is what we should be doing
- 16:50as sales people. Well, don't be naive.
- 16:53I have this podcast. I'm trying to sell you
- 16:55something. I'm trying to get some coaching
- 16:56engagement from here. Am I not educating you guys?
- 16:59I'm not. Am I not guiding you guys a
- 17:01longer conversation? I'm not trying to facilitate
- 17:04certain things. Why do you think I'm putting my
- 17:06phone number out here? Yeah, I'll be cool with a bunch
- 17:09of you. But the whole, the whole, you
- 17:12know, guys, is the guest on business from this.
- 17:15It's precisely what selling is. Now, if you thought selling was
- 17:19something else, now I'm telling you, wake up.
- 17:21You've been learning from the wrong people.
- 17:23This is exactly what selling is. Well, anyway, that's what Uncle
- 17:28Seth says, attract people, don't sell.
- 17:32Then Uncle Seth also says that we should focus on remarkable
- 17:36experience instead of features and benefits.
- 17:40Focus on remarkable experiences. Yeah.
- 17:43With that one, I will agree with him that traditionally some
- 17:47people get carried away saying I'm the greatest, I'm the
- 17:50brightest, I'm the fastest. My product comes with red, blue,
- 17:53pink. It comes with 5000 MW.
- 17:57This, that, that, that, that, that, that.
- 17:59Yeah, I admit some sales people get carried away with features
- 18:02and benefits. So what he's saying is you
- 18:04should be focusing on remarkable experiences.
- 18:06You should be talking about not what your product does, but how
- 18:09it makes people to feel. And with that, I agree with him.
- 18:13He's 100% on point. It's not so much their product
- 18:17is the greatest, fastest, longest, brightest, you know,
- 18:19whatever, but it's about how it makes people to feel.
- 18:25And that is why for that podcast episode, what was it about the
- 18:30one I was talking about credit bureaus.
- 18:34Yeah, credit bureaus in Nigeria, because credit bureaus in
- 18:37Nigeria, you know, they talk about risk mitigation.
- 18:39This, that, that, that, that, that, you know, all those, all
- 18:41that highfalutin language, but that's not really going to sell
- 18:44anything. By the time you get one-on-one
- 18:47with people and you tell people that my services help you to
- 18:51avoid bad debt. That is a feeling anybody can
- 18:55key into. I have lent somebody money
- 18:57before. Until today, I have not seen
- 19:01that money and I know that I'm not going to get that money
- 19:03back. So when you say avoid bad debt
- 19:06in Nigeria, everybody understands what bad debt means.
- 19:09You're cutting straight to the chase about how people feel.
- 19:14So yes, I agree with Uncle Chef on that one.
- 19:18It's not about products and features, it's about how your
- 19:21product makes people to feel. Keen on that one.
- 19:24Then he also says we should focus on product development,
- 19:27and I'll focus on selling. Product development is, you
- 19:31know, how you build the product and all that.
- 19:33So for those of you in the software space, in apps, you
- 19:35know, stuff like that, yeah, it makes sense.
- 19:38You should always make sure that your product development on
- 19:40points, you know, no bugs, everything works well, what
- 19:45else? But I won't say you should
- 19:48ignore selling. Then he says you should.
- 19:50Uncle Seth also says we should focus on niches instead of mass
- 19:54appeal. You know, look on on that.
- 19:57Look at the small group of people who are going to be able
- 19:59to feel what it is that we're talking about instead of trying
- 20:01to appeal to everybody. And on that one, I agree with
- 20:04Uncle Seth. And actually that's something
- 20:06that we're doing traditionally in sales, you know, marketing
- 20:10people try to reach everybody. But sales, it always starts with
- 20:13the ICP ideal customer profile, who is the person that might
- 20:17have the most resonance, the most need, the most desire for
- 20:21this product, for this service. And then we go straight to those
- 20:24people. So that's what we've always
- 20:25tried to do in sales. So in that, in that sense, I
- 20:28agree with, I agree with Uncle Seth.
- 20:33So I don't really focus on mass appeal, but let's start with the
- 20:36niche. Eventually, don't worry, we
- 20:38will, you know, we will broaden, you know, we will blow, you
- 20:42know, it's like in the beginning how only a few people used to
- 20:44wear Nikes, but now Nikes is a universal thing.
- 20:47So he's, you know, it's like that or like how Gary used to be
- 20:51a Nigerian thing, but then now with branded, branded package
- 20:55Gary goods. I mean, people, we both people
- 20:58in in, in the UK are now eating Gary.
- 21:02Who knows, maybe one day Americans will even be eating
- 21:03Gary as well. So, OK, 20 minutes.
- 21:08Let me bring this to a close because last night I went on for
- 21:1115 minutes. So let me not go on for too
- 21:13long. Is this a good book to read?
- 21:16Yeah, in my own opinion, I'll say is a good book to read
- 21:19because, you know, I'm not the alpha and the Omega and, you
- 21:21know, I don't know everything. I will never lead you guys
- 21:25astray, especially when we're talking about particular sales
- 21:28tactics or strategies that we need to do.
- 21:31When I talk about those sorts of things, yes, by all means,
- 21:33listen to me. I will not lead you astray.
- 21:36But on larger strategic issues, yeah, Well, of course, the more
- 21:39opinions that you know the better.
- 21:40And in that case, I'll say said said Gordon's book Purple Cow.
- 21:44Yeah, I'll say read it. There's another one I'm going to
- 21:47review for you guys later. This all go chapter by chapter.
- 21:50That one is called, was it called Red Ocean Abbey, Red
- 21:55Ocean strategy or something like that?
- 21:57I can't remember, but that's red ocean in contrast to Blue
- 22:00oceans. It's just that the problem that
- 22:03I have with this book and let me be frank with you guys, whether
- 22:06it's purple cow or whether it's a Six Sigma thinking or whether
- 22:11it's a red ocean strategy or whether it's, you know, all
- 22:16these fancy, fancy title is they always try to get a lot of us
- 22:19thinking about strategy, mindset shift, blah, blah, blah.
- 22:22All these things that we're starting a business.
- 22:24But to be honest, the average business person, that is not
- 22:26what we need when we're starting a business.
- 22:29The problem that the average business person has is they do
- 22:31not know, forget the strategy, they don't know the next step,
- 22:35they don't know what to do. And that's my problem with this
- 22:38book. If you read Seth Godin's book,
- 22:40Purple Cow, by the time you close the book, you'll be amped
- 22:43up. You know, you will talk to your
- 22:44friends, you talk to mom, see you talk to everybody.
- 22:46Like, you know what, Purple Cow, my business would be remarkable.
- 22:50You know, Purple Cow, I will stand out.
- 22:52I'll be distinguished. You know, I'll be laudable, I'll
- 22:55be blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and you'll be amped up, amped up
- 22:58as hell. Then you wake up tomorrow and
- 23:00you don't know what you're supposed to do next.
- 23:03That's my problem with these books.
- 23:06Very nice, very sweet, very strategic.
- 23:09We'll be thinking hi, thinking lofty.
- 23:11Now wake up tomorrow and we don't know what the hell we're
- 23:14supposed to do next to build a remarkable business.
- 23:21For those of you who read the book, tell me if I'm wrong by
- 23:24the time you finish. Tell me, OK, what was his
- 23:26prescription that Step one, do this.
- 23:28Step 2, do this. Step three, do this.
- 23:30Step 4, do this. If you've read the book and I
- 23:33think I'm wrong, please, I give my contact details at the
- 23:36beginning and at the end of every episode, reach out to me
- 23:39and tell me, bro, you're wrong. Like, dude, relax.
- 23:43You're overthinking this. This is what the guy is actually
- 23:45saying. You've got me wrong.
- 23:47So please reach out to me. Excuse me, Tell me I was wrong
- 23:51so I can come back and make another podcast episode and say,
- 23:54OK guys, you know what? That time I said this, you know
- 23:57what, I was in the right headspace.
- 23:59You know, so actually this is the way.
- 24:03So strategic thinking, mindset, mindset shifts, all these things
- 24:07very, very important. Let's keep reading all these
- 24:09books. I will keep reading these books
- 24:10and I'll keep talking about them to you guys, but that is not
- 24:14really the problem that you're facing in your business.
- 24:16The problem you're facing your business is you don't know what
- 24:18next concrete step to take. And for those of you that know,
- 24:23you don't have the willpower to follow through.
- 24:25So, you know, that's another conversation, but the next step,
- 24:28that's what we're supposed to be thinking about.
- 24:30So in my own opinion, I'll say after reading this book, sorry,
- 24:35I haven't read it. I just know of the book and
- 24:40I've, you know, schemed a couple of lines here and there from the
- 24:42book and stuff like that. So in my own opinion now this is
- 24:45the next step to take from this book.
- 24:49Our guy Uncle Self, he keeps talking about niche audiences
- 24:56and things like that. Now remember what we've been
- 24:58talking about over here on the podcast and we'll talk about
- 25:01ICP. I do customer profile.
- 25:05In his own case, he talks about the MVA.
- 25:07He says the minimum of viable audience.
- 25:10So these are what we should be. That's the next step.
- 25:12Now for whatever business it is that you want to start, who is
- 25:15your ICP? Their do customer profile.
- 25:19What is your MVA? Our self Gordon calls it your
- 25:22minimum viable audience. The smallest audience who might
- 25:25be interested in this thing, they can go and start a
- 25:28conversation with, start writing it down, start plotting it out
- 25:33and then who knows, maybe you can come up with an MVP.
- 25:35That is the minimum viable product, the smallest version of
- 25:38your product that people can see, can touch, can taste, can
- 25:40smell, can try out so that they can say what?
- 25:44This is extraordinary. I would say from being exposed
- 25:51to our cassettes, Purple Cow book.
- 25:53That's the next step. Who is your smallest audience?
- 25:56Who are your niche? Who is your ideal customer
- 26:00profile, your ideal customer avatar?
- 26:02Who are they? Write them down tomorrow.
- 26:05The next thing I'm supposed to do is to come up with a plan to
- 26:08start interacting with them, expose them to your product,
- 26:12start getting some feedback. Excuse me?
- 26:15The feedback they get from them is what it's going to help so
- 26:17they can refine your product to make your product not worthy or
- 26:20make your service, you know, not worthy.
- 26:24That's how to start. But my own personal warning, my
- 26:27own personal whatever is, you know, please, all these people
- 26:29that keep talking about product that's selling itself, you know,
- 26:32there's an element of truth there.
- 26:34You know, that's why everybody in Nigeria is driving Toyota
- 26:37these days because you know, Toyota, you know, you can drive
- 26:42that thing for 15 years. No, really, in case you don't
- 26:46know, maybe one of those people who doesn't drive yet, you know,
- 26:48actually you can drive to ETA 1520 years.
- 26:50Those of us who are buying what's it called?
- 26:53A second hand car, you know, America, America second hand.
- 26:57I mean, what do you think we're driving while driving 1015 year
- 27:00old cars now? Just one check.
- 27:03So yeah, you can drive these cars forever.
- 27:05They are remarkable. That's why Nigerians keep on
- 27:07driving to Utah's. So there's an element of truth
- 27:09there. But if you believe the whole
- 27:12thing hook, line or sinker, and you believe that because your
- 27:14product or service is the bomb or whatever, or your
- 27:17professional reputation should precede you, you will be like
- 27:20people in my father's generation who believe that.
- 27:22Look, because I'm the best, I don't need to.
- 27:25I don't need to also, I don't need to whatever.
- 27:27Let me just chill. People will come and meet me.
- 27:32And I really think that time was passed.
- 27:35So that's all for today about Seth Godin's book.
- 27:41Again, if you have read the book, you have a different
- 27:44opinion. I would love to hear from you.
- 27:47So hit me up, call me, SMS me, WhatsApp me on 08064662140.
- 27:56Thank you very much for your time and attention.
- 27:58I'll catch you next time. Same place in your headphones or
- 28:01in your speakers.