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Exercise for Healing and Nervous System Regulation with Molly Mcnamee · Reclaiming Consciousness

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SPEAKER_02: There is just a huge trickle effect for people as well, where they put a lot of pressure on themselves to look a certain way.
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SPEAKER_02: That stresses out their body, that stresses out their stress hormones.
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SPEAKER_02: When their stress hormones are upset, then that creates more anxiety in your body.
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SPEAKER_02: And then you're even more hyper-aware of how you look and how you feel.
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SPEAKER_02: So it is that mind and body connection that can really be great for you or bad for you in this scenario because they feed each other.
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SPEAKER_02: Like if you're feeling like you're not doing enough or you're not looking the way you want to feel, your body's gonna react.
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SPEAKER_02: Your body's then gonna feed those emotions as well.
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SPEAKER_02: So it can really spiral for a lot of people.
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SPEAKER_02: It did for me, it has for most of the people that I work with.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Reclaiming Consciousness.
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SPEAKER_00: My name is Elise Bassine, spiritual mentor, breathwork practitioner, and owner and CEO of Elise Breeds.
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SPEAKER_00: For many years, our consciousness has been hijacked by societal and cultural programming, religion, the media, and familial and ancestral trauma.
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SPEAKER_00: Right now, during this epic time in history, people are waking up, realizing who they really are, and reclaiming the pieces of their consciousness that they unknowingly gave away.
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SPEAKER_00: This podcast is an exploration of how so many spectacular humans are leading the way in exiting the matrix and reclaiming who they really are and what they're capable of.
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SPEAKER_00: In this show, you'll meet exceptional people who are paving the way in raising consciousness and creating a new way of living on this earth.
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SPEAKER_01: Hi everyone, welcome back to the show.
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SPEAKER_01: So I'm so excited to introduce you to today's guest, Molly.
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SPEAKER_01: Molly is a fitness instructor and coach that focuses on nervous system regulation and exercise for healing your nervous system and creating calm, relaxation, and healing in the body.
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SPEAKER_01: So she shares her story about how she completely burnt herself out.
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SPEAKER_01: She was a gymnast and a dancer, and then she became a trainer.
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SPEAKER_01: And she was focusing on all of that crazy stuff where you are pushing yourself super hard and just only caring about the way that you look instead of being healthy.
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SPEAKER_01: And she kind of like hit rock bottom and realized that she just couldn't do that anymore.
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SPEAKER_01: And then she developed a completely new way of approaching fitness and health.
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SPEAKER_01: And now she has her own app and her own coaching business where she helps women create a very individualized, targeted exercise and health plan based on healing and regulating the nervous system.
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SPEAKER_01: So when I connected with Molly, I was like, oh, I love this because this is something that I don't necessarily talk about in my work.
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SPEAKER_01: However, I also am super into exercise and health.
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SPEAKER_01: And I have gone through such a journey myself of exercise and food and body image, which you'll hear me share about on the episode.
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SPEAKER_01: We talk a lot about that too.
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SPEAKER_01: So I really wanted to have her on.
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SPEAKER_01: And then also something really cool that's gonna happen is she is going to be teaching a special class inside the mothership.
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SPEAKER_01: So another reason to join my amazing membership because there's always fun stuff popping up like this that I can't even predict.
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SPEAKER_01: But Molly is going to teach you some very profound and really tangible things that you can do to exercise for health and for regulating the nervous system and to feel your best inside your body, which is what it's really about.
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SPEAKER_01: I think so many people go through this journey where it's like about how they look and then they realize it's not sustainable.
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SPEAKER_01: And then you realize that it's actually about how you feel, and all of her stuff is targeted for that.
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SPEAKER_01: So I thought it was a perfect addition to the work that I do and a perfect like special add-on for the ladies in the mothership.
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SPEAKER_01: So she's gonna be teaching a class in September about fitness and how to do workouts to regulate your nervous system.
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SPEAKER_01: So I'm so excited to have her inside the membership as a special guest.
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SPEAKER_01: So you can listen to her story, listen to her perspective, and get excited.
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SPEAKER_01: For you ladies that are in the mothership, you are gonna get to experience her firsthand.
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SPEAKER_01: Also with the mothership, as you guys know, there's so much exciting stuff coming up.
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SPEAKER_01: And it is a place to work very closely with me to create a turning point, to create a next level for yourself that you will not be coming back from.
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SPEAKER_01: This is my favorite thing to do with women is to really create these big permanent changes through big breakthroughs around what's actually happening and then shifting it in real time so that you create a real, tangible, permanent result through having deep support with me and walking you through my trauma clearing tools.
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SPEAKER_01: Because usually the reason why you are feeling stuck or something feels really challenging is because of childhood relational trauma.
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SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it's ancestral, sometimes it's it's past life.
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SPEAKER_01: But typically, if it's like a personal thing that you are trying to create or get past and you keep coming up against the same thing, it's childhood relational trauma.
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SPEAKER_01: I promise you.
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SPEAKER_01: And we will move through it inside turning point and inside the mothership in general.
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SPEAKER_01: And there's going to be some other special surprise guests throughout the year.
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6:54
SPEAKER_01: Hi, everyone.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to the show.
6:56
SPEAKER_01: So I'm super excited for you to meet today's guest, Molly McNamy.
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SPEAKER_01: And we recently connected and just had a really great conversation and overlap in what we do.
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SPEAKER_01: And I wanted to bring her on the show to share her perspective and what she does because I think you guys are really gonna love it.
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SPEAKER_01: And also I'm gonna be having her share inside the mothership membership because I'm gonna be having a few guest teachers in there, which is really exciting.
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SPEAKER_01: So welcome to the show, Molly.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm excited to be here.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you for having me.
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SPEAKER_02: As you said, we've talked before, so I know this is gonna be a really cool conversation for people to hear.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
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SPEAKER_01: So can you just start out by letting the audience know who you are and also a little bit of your story of like how you got to do what you're doing now?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
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SPEAKER_02: So I am an online fitness coach and the founder of M Fit Workouts, which is an online fitness platform that I created over a decade ago.
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SPEAKER_02: But when I first got started, it looked so different than what it looks like now.
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SPEAKER_02: When I first started working in the fitness space, it was all the superficial things.
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SPEAKER_02: Like I was just helping people get abs for summer or lose weight for whatever season or whatever trend was happening in the world.
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SPEAKER_02: But then I went through my own pretty wild health journey, and that helped me realize how much how you move and your lifestyle can impact both your mental and your physical health.
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SPEAKER_02: So I really built my business based off of high-intensity interval workouts.
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SPEAKER_02: I was helping people like really push their bodies to an extreme to get the shape that they were looking for, which is what a lot of the things in the fitness world is that.
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SPEAKER_02: But then I started experiencing pretty intense bloating, pretty extreme anxiety.
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SPEAKER_02: I had no control over my weight.
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SPEAKER_02: It was fluctuating 30 pounds every other month.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I hit rock bottom when I was having like three to four panic attacks every single day.
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SPEAKER_02: And I just had to fully stop exercising and stop all of the things for a while.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I got back into fitness and took a much more gentle approach to how I was exercising.
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SPEAKER_02: And I realized that I wasn't having panic attacks anymore.
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SPEAKER_02: I wasn't bloated anymore.
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SPEAKER_02: I wasn't having those struggles with my weight.
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SPEAKER_02: So that really helped me realize okay, exercise is really a double-edged sword.
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SPEAKER_02: Like it can help you feel amazing and look amazing, but it can also make you feel pretty bad.
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SPEAKER_02: So that helped me transform my business into what it is now.
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SPEAKER_02: So now I really help people program their workouts around their stress levels and around their mental health so that they're not getting those negative side effects of exercise that I see a lot of people experience and that I experienced myself.
9:40
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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SPEAKER_01: There's so many things I want to say about this.
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SPEAKER_01: Cause I feel like so many people kind of like feel bad about the fact that they might not push themselves really hard working out or whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: So when you first started, was it more just because like you wanted to look good and then you just started helping other people?
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SPEAKER_01: Because you must have a natural ability towards like physical fitness and stuff like that, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So I grew up an athlete.
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SPEAKER_02: So I did gymnastics and dance all growing up.
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SPEAKER_02: And then when I turned 18 and I stopped competing in those things, I had to, you know, figure out a way to continue moving my body without exercising in a gym or in a dance studio for three hours a day.
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SPEAKER_02: And that was a tough transition for me.
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SPEAKER_02: So when I got out of my structured exercise routine with dance and gymnastics, I gained about 40 pounds.
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SPEAKER_02: And I really didn't like it because if you grow up as a dancer or as a gymnast or as a woman, you really don't want to gain weight.
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SPEAKER_02: You probably feel self-conscious about your weight if you are gaining pounds.
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SPEAKER_02: So I started working out pretty hard.
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SPEAKER_02: I started going to the gym, I started lifting heavy, I started doing high-intensity cardio because those were the things that were trendy at the time.
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SPEAKER_02: That is what I saw everyone doing on social media.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, let's push our bodies hard and get the positive effects from that.
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SPEAKER_02: So I started doing that.
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SPEAKER_02: And I did that for many years, and my anxiety slowly trickled up and up and up throughout those years.
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SPEAKER_02: And my bloating and like weight struggles also were just always persistent in that time.
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SPEAKER_02: So, yes, I grew up as an athlete.
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SPEAKER_02: So I've always loved movement.
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SPEAKER_02: And even when exercise ruined my health, I still loved exercise and I still love exercise now.
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SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it's always been a natural thing for me.
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SPEAKER_02: But what set me off was that initial weight gain of that transitional time in my period where I was going from a really structured routine to now it has to change.
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SPEAKER_02: And I struggled in that transition.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And like when you were a dancer and a gymnast, though, did you have the same kind of struggles with just anxiety or pushing yourself too much?
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SPEAKER_01: Because obviously, those are like two of the most intense things that you can do, basically.
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SPEAKER_02: You're not wrong.
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SPEAKER_02: And I did.
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SPEAKER_02: I would say that I have had some level of anxiety my entire life.
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SPEAKER_02: I joke about it, but I'm pretty sure it's true that my first memory ever was being anxious.
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SPEAKER_02: Like I think my first memory was when I was four years old, and it was me being anxious on a family vacation.
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SPEAKER_02: So I have always had some underlying level of anxiety.
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SPEAKER_02: And a lot of the people that I work with also have high-functioning anxiety to some degree that can really be set off with the wrong workout routine.
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SPEAKER_02: So for me, I was always a bit anxious.
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SPEAKER_02: I was always self-conscious about my body.
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SPEAKER_02: And then once I really started pushing myself to an extreme in my 20s, everything just went downhill from there for my health.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And I know with like dance and gymnastics, like there is a lot of pressure to have the perfect body.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, did you ever watch the like documentary about the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders?
12:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh my God.
12:57
SPEAKER_01: I've been watching that.
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SPEAKER_01: That's like totally insane.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm sure you can relate to that though.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, as someone who is from the dance world, none of it's exaggerated.
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SPEAKER_02: You do really have those pressures of, oh, I need to look this way.
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SPEAKER_02: And if I don't look this way, I won't book a job.
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SPEAKER_02: I won't win my competition.
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SPEAKER_02: I won't, whatever your goal is in that competition space.
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SPEAKER_02: It's not exaggerated at all.
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SPEAKER_02: And I definitely experienced that.
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SPEAKER_02: In my teen years, I had extreme body dysmorphia.
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SPEAKER_02: Like I also had disordered eating habits and all of that stuff going on that I've luckily overcome to now.
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SPEAKER_02: But it is hard not to get wrapped up in that as a performance athlete, or like I said, as any woman or man has probably experienced like some sort of body pressure just from society, like saying we all need to look a certain way.
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SPEAKER_02: So then when you don't look that way, or if you think you don't look that way, you can really push things.
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SPEAKER_01: I dealt with it too when I was a teenager.
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SPEAKER_01: It just really messes with you.
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SPEAKER_01: Even moving forward.
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SPEAKER_01: I feel like I'm in the best place I've ever been with like the way I feel about my body.
14:04
SPEAKER_01: And also, like, I feel like once I became 40, I'm like, okay, we can set the bar a little lower, like now that you're now that you're 40.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I see the same with the clients that I work with.
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SPEAKER_02: I probably work with people from high 20s to 60s.
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SPEAKER_02: And it is funny each decade how you see people just like talking about their bodies in a different way.
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SPEAKER_02: And I do feel like a lot of people go through those phases of putting a lot of pressure on their body uh when they are up to 40 years old.
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SPEAKER_02: They think they really, really, really need to look a certain way, and that can get dangerous.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And also it just creates like this level of like internal struggle.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like trying to force yourself to be something that you're not, essentially.
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SPEAKER_01: And for me, and no matter what I do, like I always will have a butt.
14:54
SPEAKER_01: I just always will, and that's okay.
14:57
SPEAKER_01: But I think there's not one woman I know who doesn't have an issue with the way that she looks.
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SPEAKER_01: So I think that this is a huge thing, not to go off on like too much of a tangent about this, but I think it's such an important conversation.
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SPEAKER_01: And even to be able to like structure workouts so that it's more around feeling good and feeling confident versus trying to beat yourself into looking a certain way.
15:23
SPEAKER_01: Because that's just not sustainable, obviously.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: And I noticed there is just a huge trickle effect for people as well, where they put a lot of pressure on themselves to look a certain way, that stresses out their body, that stresses out their stress hormones.
15:38
SPEAKER_02: When their stress hormones are upset, then that creates more anxiety in your body, and then you're even more hyper-aware of how you look and how you feel.
15:46
SPEAKER_02: So it is that mind and body connection that can really be great for you or bad for you in this scenario because they feed each other.
15:54
SPEAKER_02: Like if you're feeling like you're not doing enough or you're not looking the way you want to feel, your body's gonna react.
15:59
SPEAKER_02: Your body's then gonna feed those emotions as well.
16:01
SPEAKER_02: So it can really spiral for a lot of people.
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SPEAKER_02: It did for me, it has for most of the people that I work with.
16:08
SPEAKER_02: You go through that spiral moment of my brain's feeling this way, it makes my body react.
16:13
SPEAKER_02: Now it's feeding everything.
16:15
SPEAKER_02: What do you think about Ozempic?
16:17
SPEAKER_02: I mean, sorry, I had to ask.
16:20
SPEAKER_02: I believe that people who should be taking Ozempic should be taking Ozempic.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like with any medication or anything in the health world, it should be used for what it's meant to be used for.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's one of those extreme things.
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SPEAKER_02: People want extreme results, so they're gonna take that shortcut.
16:39
SPEAKER_02: But what happens for those people is are you gonna keep taking that shortcut for the rest of your life?
16:43
SPEAKER_02: Because if you have to stop taking that medication, you're then gonna lose this kind of health in this body that you have then created.
16:50
SPEAKER_02: So you need to find a way to adjust your lifestyle so that you can holistically change your body and your mind instead of just putting a band-aid over your problems.
16:59
SPEAKER_02: And then when you take off that band-aid, then everything is gushing out of you again.
17:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: And I feel like it's creating this really fucked up standard because celebrities take it and like the housewives and they all are fucking sticks and it's fucked up.
17:13
SPEAKER_01: Cause it's like, what are you modeling as important?
17:16
SPEAKER_01: Basically, you're saying that you would rather be skinny than be healthy.
17:23
SPEAKER_01: Like that's basically what it's saying.
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SPEAKER_02: I absolutely agree.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's sad because I assume I don't know these people personally, but I assume these celebrities that are on it, it's again that pressure to be like, I need to look this way because someone else started this trend.
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SPEAKER_02: Now I need to follow this trend.
17:38
SPEAKER_02: And they probably know that they're influencing like a whole new generation to have body issues, but it's hard to escape for anyone.
17:47
SPEAKER_02: Cause again, we're just like in this world where it's either you love your body even though you're extremely unhealthy and you're not trying to change it, or you hate your body and you're trying to change it.
17:58
SPEAKER_02: But we really need to be living in this middle zone where we are just trying to live a healthy life mentally and physically.
18:05
SPEAKER_02: But it's hard to escape those extremes, especially if you are a celebrity in that extreme environment.
18:10
SPEAKER_02: So it's this sad cycle that's created.
18:12
SPEAKER_02: And I wish someone could stand up and change it and like strongly stand in the middle of I believe in loving your body, but also caring for your body.
18:21
SPEAKER_02: But it's probably hard to be that person.
18:24
SPEAKER_02: But us health coaches who have this approach, we're trying to stand up and be that person.
18:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:29
SPEAKER_01: Can you just tell us about like your perspective on fitness and what is your thing, your outlook, your way?
18:36
SPEAKER_01: What is that?
18:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:38
SPEAKER_02: So my whole approach to fitness and lifestyle is work smarter, not harder.
18:44
SPEAKER_02: That's like my motto for life.
18:45
SPEAKER_02: Don't try to do the most, try to do what is actually moving the needle for you.
18:50
SPEAKER_02: But what started that is like I said, I hit rock bottom.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: I was having crazy panic attacks, crazy bloating, my weight was all over the place.
18:57
SPEAKER_02: And then I actually injured myself, which is not surprising because if you're pushing yourself to an extreme, something's gonna crumble.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: So unfortunately, I did injure myself and I was forced to fully stop everything in my life.
19:09
SPEAKER_02: And then once I got back into exercise, it also had to be slower as my body healed.
19:14
SPEAKER_02: And then I fell into, oh, this is making me feel better, actually doing less, and I'm looking better, actually doing less.
19:21
SPEAKER_02: So it is unfortunate that I wasn't able to just learn this on my own, that I had to have an accident to make me discover this.
19:30
SPEAKER_02: But it was all accidental.
19:32
SPEAKER_02: But then once I realized how much better I felt doing shorter workouts and lower intensity workouts, then I just knew I needed to create a whole training method around this.
19:42
SPEAKER_02: So now my training method really is workouts under 30 minutes, low impact.
19:48
SPEAKER_02: We're not pushing our body to extremes and we are focusing on being able to breathe during our workouts so that our nervous system doesn't just get overwhelmed even more by exercising.
20:00
SPEAKER_02: So work smarter, not harder is definitely the motto for my business.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: But what that actually looks like is shorter workouts and lower and moderate intensity workouts instead of going to the gym for an hour and lifting the heaviest weights possible or doing the hardest possible cardio.
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SPEAKER_02: It's shorter and more strategic.
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SPEAKER_01: I've heard people talk about this of like doing shorter stuff and how that actually works better.
20:24
SPEAKER_01: Is that because it doesn't blow out your nervous system or like why does that work better?
20:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so some people actually find success with longer workouts and their body responds to that.
20:36
SPEAKER_02: But if you have underlying levels of stress or anxiety, that means your nervous system is already a bit on edge.
20:44
SPEAKER_02: So if you're doing a longer workout where you are keeping your nervous system on edge for an entire hour or 90 minutes or however long you're exercising for, then that is eventually gonna tip the scales where your nervous system just gets completely overwhelmed.
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SPEAKER_02: And when your nervous system is overwhelmed, it starts producing too much cortisol, which is a stress hormone in your body.
21:04
SPEAKER_02: And when your body's producing too much cortisol, then you're not able to lose weight.
21:08
SPEAKER_02: And you gain weight even if you're exercising.
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SPEAKER_02: So it is just overloading the body with stress that is what makes longer workouts not actually effective for people who have chronic stress in their life, which is so many people nowadays.
21:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: You feel like that certain people, like their body just wants to be a certain weight, and that just is what it is.
21:30
SPEAKER_01: Like, even though they might be able to like tone or feel better in their body, like certain people just are what they are.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: I do feel that way to a degree.
21:40
SPEAKER_02: So you can transform and bodybuild your body to look a certain way, but your body will feel best at a certain weight and looking a certain way.
21:51
SPEAKER_02: And you can try to force your body to go against that, but that is probably going to stress it out and make it harder to maintain, whatever that goal.
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SPEAKER_02: Is.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: So I do feel like we all have a place where we feel our best.
22:04
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, as you said, you can tone and shape your body in different ways.
22:08
SPEAKER_02: But trying to fight against where your body naturally wants to sit can be dangerous.
22:13
SPEAKER_02: And I do want to say a little caveat because there is obviously this big trend in the fitness world.
22:18
SPEAKER_02: You don't have to be fit.
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SPEAKER_02: You don't have to try to be healthy.
22:21
SPEAKER_02: And I don't necessarily agree with that extreme.
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SPEAKER_02: You can love your body, but still be sitting at an unhealthy place.
22:28
SPEAKER_02: So where your body feels the healthiest is where you're going to feel the most energized.
22:32
SPEAKER_02: You're not going to feel bloated.
22:33
SPEAKER_02: You're not going to feel sluggish.
22:35
SPEAKER_02: You are going to feel motivated and energized.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: So if you're not feeling that way, that means your body is actually not at a place where it is happy.
22:41
SPEAKER_02: So if you're feeling particularly fatigued and just achy and unhappy, that means your body is not where it wants to be.
22:48
SPEAKER_02: And you're going to want to do something to change that.
22:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:52
SPEAKER_01: What is your take on like the emotional component of why people might hold weight?
23:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:00
SPEAKER_02: So it's similar to what I was talking about before, where your mind and your body are so connected.
23:06
SPEAKER_02: So if your mind is chronically stressed, and a lot of times people don't even realize what is stressing them out.
23:13
SPEAKER_02: Like if stepping on the scale every morning is just a little bit sad for you, that means it's stressing out your body.
23:20
SPEAKER_02: So while you don't feel like you're stressed every day, if you wake up every morning feeling sad about the scale, you are stressed every day.
23:28
SPEAKER_02: And if your body is chronically stressed, then your body is going to start to reveal that.
23:34
SPEAKER_02: So you're going to start to get that lower belly fat is like a big sign of your body being stressed, or you're going to feel really bloated and your body is not going to look the way you want it to look because of that stress.
23:46
SPEAKER_02: So your mind is so powerful.
23:49
SPEAKER_02: Like I actually was just talking to someone this morning, actually, about how the mind is great for manifesting things.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: If you can say I can do this, you're more likely to succeed.
23:58
SPEAKER_02: If you say I can't do this, you're less likely to succeed.
24:01
SPEAKER_02: But your hormones are also responding to that.
24:03
SPEAKER_02: If you're saying I can't, I can't, or you're frustrated and you're stressed about something, your hormones are going to start to get frustrated too.
24:10
SPEAKER_02: And that's also going to reflect in your mental and physical health.
24:13
SPEAKER_02: So your mind is so powerful.
24:15
SPEAKER_02: I could talk about this for hours because it's powerful in the mental aspects, but also the physical aspects.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: I feel also that that I'm sure there's different types of exercise that different types of people should do.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: So, like, do you customize things for people, like based on not just like where they're at, but also just who they are?
24:38
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
24:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I do.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm creating a sales page right now on my website, actually, that says your workout should match your personality.
24:45
SPEAKER_02: And I have little personality bubbles being like, does this sound like you?
24:49
SPEAKER_02: This is like what you should be doing.
24:50
SPEAKER_02: Because I do firmly believe that people should be doing workouts based on their stage of life, their likes and dislikes, how their body feels, what their stress levels are like.
25:01
SPEAKER_02: You really do need to be tailoring your workouts to you.
25:03
SPEAKER_02: And that's what is not the best about most online fitness programs is it's cookie cutter.
25:10
SPEAKER_02: It's saying this is going to help you lose 20 pounds in two months.
25:14
SPEAKER_02: Like people just promote things as that, but that's not made for you.
25:18
SPEAKER_02: So you don't know if your body's gonna respond that way.
25:20
SPEAKER_02: So I do feel like people's workout programs need to be fully tailored to them.
25:25
SPEAKER_02: And a lot of times people will just do what their friends are doing or do what's trendy in the media or do what they've heard like someone at their office lost a bunch of weight with, but that doesn't mean you're gonna get the same results because you're so unique.
25:40
SPEAKER_02: And all fitness programs need to be unique, and most fitness programs are not, unfortunately.
25:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because I feel like there's this way where people think, oh, well, this is the way to lose weight, or whatever.
25:53
SPEAKER_01: This is the way that's not gonna work for everybody.
25:55
SPEAKER_01: And it's like hard to even know.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: Like, so for somebody who's like, how do I know what is like the best thing to do?
26:01
SPEAKER_01: What would you say?
26:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, when I start working with someone, there's a lot of conversation at first.
26:07
SPEAKER_02: What does your life look like?
26:08
SPEAKER_02: What have you enjoyed doing?
26:10
SPEAKER_02: What has worked in the past, what has not worked in the past?
26:12
SPEAKER_02: And it's really putting together like this whole big puzzle of what actually makes sense for you.
26:19
SPEAKER_02: And sometimes it takes a little trial and error, to be honest.
26:23
SPEAKER_02: But if you have a bunch of data of, okay, what's your life been looking like over the past 30, 40, 50 years?
26:30
SPEAKER_02: Then we can usually navigate what's going to work best for them.
26:34
SPEAKER_02: But it is a big mystery, right?
26:38
SPEAKER_02: I sometimes call myself a fitness detective because once I meet someone, I just really want to solve the problems that are going on with their body.
26:45
SPEAKER_02: And there are a lot of things that go into every aspect of your health.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: Do you help people with food too?
26:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:53
SPEAKER_02: So I have lots of nutrition education, but what I do with food and a lot of the way I coach is habit-based stuff.
27:02
SPEAKER_02: So instead of giving people like meal plans, do this.
27:05
SPEAKER_02: I just help them tweak how they're eating so that it more supports their goals.
27:10
SPEAKER_02: Because I do believe that people can eat anyway and still reach their goals.
27:14
SPEAKER_02: It just needs to be balanced and tweaked and tailored to match their life.
27:18
SPEAKER_02: But it is a part of the puzzle piece as well, what you're eating.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
27:23
SPEAKER_01: But I also feel like it's like, what is actually gonna be sustainable?
27:27
SPEAKER_01: Of course, someone could eat a certain way for a certain amount of time, but then it's like, how long are you going to like measure your rice or whatever the fuck it?
27:37
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
27:38
SPEAKER_01: Like, how long, like how long does that last?
27:41
SPEAKER_01: Like, because my husband just started working with a nutritionist and he was like counting all of his calories or whatever and asking me what's in everything that I make.
27:50
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, oh my God, I'm like, how long is this gonna last?
27:53
SPEAKER_01: Because I know that it's not gonna, I get there's like value in that at a certain point, but I also feel like there has to be a point where you just live.
28:00
SPEAKER_01: And like, how can you just live, but also find a balance of what is actually gonna be supportive to you?
28:09
SPEAKER_01: And a lot of it I feel like is intuition.
28:11
SPEAKER_01: That's what I've learned for myself over time is I just basically listen to my intuition mostly around food and exercise.
28:19
SPEAKER_01: And that's been the thing that has worked the best for me.
28:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:23
SPEAKER_02: So I find some people need to have that period where they're like heavily researching what they're eating so that then they can have that intuition guide them the right way.
28:32
SPEAKER_02: Because some people are just like, I have no idea what I'm eating, and then tracking it for a month or two can then help them realize, okay, I know basically how much protein I eat if I'm eating this, because I at one point tracked.
28:44
SPEAKER_02: But I also think that that can lead to really unhealthy habits for some people.
28:48
SPEAKER_02: If they're tracking what they eat, then they can get pretty obsessive about what they eat.
28:52
SPEAKER_02: And again, there's this whole spiral effect of you get obsessive about what you eat that starts to stress out your body.
28:58
SPEAKER_02: You're not seeing the results from your diet because your body's stressed, and then you think it's not working, and then it's this whole thing.
29:05
SPEAKER_02: But what I always tell people in general is don't start something that you see having an end date.
29:12
SPEAKER_02: So if you think, oh, I can make myself do this for three months, don't even start because what's the point?
29:17
SPEAKER_02: You want to start something where you're like, I can seemingly do this forever.
29:21
SPEAKER_02: I know as maybe a 40-year-old, you're sitting here and you're like, well, I can't see myself doing this when I'm 90, but like seemingly forever, you can go about this lifestyle that you're choosing to live.
29:32
SPEAKER_02: And if you see this end date of, okay, I can make myself do this for a short period of time, and then I know I'm gonna need to stop, then don't do it.
29:42
SPEAKER_02: Because once you stop, what happens?
29:44
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna lose the results you gained over those couple of months, and then you're gonna have to relearn how to reach your goals and be healthy again.
29:52
SPEAKER_02: So I definitely have the approach to exercise and diet and lifestyle of just ease yourself into it and find something that works with your life instead of something you have to force into your life.
30:06
SPEAKER_02: So if it feels like a chore, if it feels like a job you're gonna want to quit after six months, then you need to tweak it so that it can just feel like a natural part of you.
30:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:18
SPEAKER_02: I made this analogy one time that exercise and healthy living should be like relationships.
30:24
SPEAKER_02: So if you go on a date with someone and they propose to you the next day, you're gonna say, My gosh, that's way too much, way too soon.
30:32
SPEAKER_02: But a lot of people do that with their exercise routine.
30:34
SPEAKER_02: Like they start exercising and they're like, I'm doing this every day and I'm eating healthy every day, and I am married to this.
30:41
SPEAKER_02: Your body ends up being like, This is way too much, way too soon.
30:44
SPEAKER_02: Like, I want to divorce being healthy.
30:46
SPEAKER_02: So date exercise and healthy eating for a while.
30:50
SPEAKER_02: Just date it, ease into it instead of forcing it into your life.
30:54
SPEAKER_01: I like that a lot.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: And then I know you talk too a lot about like nervous system regulations.
31:00
SPEAKER_01: Is there a way that you can exercise that is more regulating for your nervous system?
31:06
SPEAKER_01: Because obviously I know for me, breath work is regulating, but I also feel like there's a deeper way where like when you are deeply connected with yourself, then like your nervous system is already regulated or you're when you're deeply connected spiritually and and all of this stuff.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: Cause I feel like so many people talk about that now.
31:27
SPEAKER_01: So, what is your take on that as it relates to exercise and whatever else?
31:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I think exercise can be really good for your nervous system or really bad for your nervous system.
31:39
SPEAKER_02: Like it can swing to those two extremes.
31:42
SPEAKER_02: And to keep yourself in that positive extreme of your nervous system enjoying your exercise routine, I actually talk about breathing a lot in your workouts.
31:52
SPEAKER_02: So, one of my big rules, if you are trying to make sure your nervous system is enjoying your workout, is to make sure you can breathe through your workout.
32:02
SPEAKER_02: So a lot of people think that if they're not huffing and puffing and gasping for air during their workouts, it's not a tough workout.
32:10
SPEAKER_02: But your nervous system doesn't like that.
32:12
SPEAKER_02: Your nervous system likes deep breathing.
32:14
SPEAKER_02: So if you can connect your breath and breathe intentionally as you exercise, so think about inhaling as you contract in an exercise and exhaling as you extend through an exercise.
32:26
SPEAKER_02: Like make breathing a part of your workout routine.
32:29
SPEAKER_02: Your nervous system is going to like that a lot more.
32:32
SPEAKER_02: And I also touched on this before, but doing shorter workouts is a lot better for your nervous system because it's just a shorter exposure to the stress of exercise.
32:43
SPEAKER_02: Doing a 90-minute workout every single day, even if you're breathing through it, that is gonna stress out your body and it's unavoidable.
32:52
SPEAKER_02: But if you can do a 20-minute, 30-minute workout that you're breathing deeply during, that's amazing.
32:57
SPEAKER_02: And another thing that I have started doing recently in my workouts and in my workout programs is I don't know if you're familiar with yoga, but there's a thing called shivasana that people do at the end of yoga classes, and I have all of my clients do that at the end of their workouts too.
33:13
SPEAKER_02: So you basically just lie on your back, close your eyes, and breathe for a couple minutes after you finish your workout.
33:18
SPEAKER_02: And what's good about that is that's gonna activate the parasympathetic nervous system that allows your body to relax after your sympathetic nervous system has likely been activated during your workout, causing a bit of stress.
33:31
SPEAKER_02: So if you can just balance out the stress with some relaxation, that is going to make your workout a lot more effective for you.
33:40
SPEAKER_02: So don't skip your cool down.
33:42
SPEAKER_02: Don't skip that like relaxation and pause time after your workout.
33:46
SPEAKER_02: If you skip that pause time, then that's when your nervous system is just going from the stress of a workout back into the stress of your day.
33:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think shivasana is very important.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: That's good that you included that.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've done yoga for many years, but I did ashtanga yoga very intensely for seven years, where I would go at like five in the morning every day before work to do my ashtanga practice.
34:11
SPEAKER_01: And I would have to leave.
34:12
SPEAKER_01: Some days I'd have to cut my practice short to go to work.
34:16
SPEAKER_01: And I remember my teacher would be like so adamant that you can't skip shavasana, even if you have to skip other poses, like you always skip those and you don't skip shavasana because of that, because it's so important.
34:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that that is a great thing to add.
34:34
SPEAKER_01: And I also am curious too, just to go back, like for you, like when you had your healing moments around body stuff and food stuff, like what were some of the biggest things for you that helped you heal and like what you had to walk through in order to get to the other side of that?
34:54
SPEAKER_02: For me, and I do think everyone goes on their own journeys with this stuff, but I am pretty type A just in nature.
35:03
SPEAKER_02: I am an overthinker.
35:05
SPEAKER_02: So I needed to set straight up rules for myself for all of the extreme moments of my life.
35:11
SPEAKER_02: So when I wasn't eating enough, I had to set a rule for myself that I was gonna eat X, Y, Z a day.
35:17
SPEAKER_02: When I was exercising too much, I had to set certain rules of you're not allowed to work out longer than this amount of time.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: So I had to set literal rules.
35:27
SPEAKER_02: And I know it's not the best to say you have to force yourself to do things.
35:33
SPEAKER_02: It's not great phrasing, but I did kind of have to force myself to follow those rules to change my lifestyle.
35:40
SPEAKER_02: Because if you are set in these extreme ways, whether it be you're eating way too little and you're extreme about that, or if you're exercising way too much and you're extreme about that, or even if you're not doing anything at all and you're just extreme in your laziness, you do just need to set rules and be like, you're gonna follow this.
35:59
SPEAKER_02: You have to follow this rule.
36:01
SPEAKER_02: So for me, I did have to write out a list.
36:03
SPEAKER_02: So for my exercise healing journey, where I was doing way too much, I had to write a list of being like, you are resting on this day.
36:13
SPEAKER_02: You have to rest on this day.
36:14
SPEAKER_02: Your workouts are not allowed to be more than 45 minutes and now they're like 20, 30 minutes.
36:19
SPEAKER_02: Like now I work out far less.
36:21
SPEAKER_02: But I did have to set those hard and fast rules.
36:23
SPEAKER_02: And that is what worked for me.
36:25
SPEAKER_02: Because if you are stuck in this extremist mindset, it can be hard to get yourself out of that because you're just so used to living a certain way.
36:34
SPEAKER_02: But if you can make yourself follow some instructions, that can be really helpful.
36:39
SPEAKER_02: And that is where coaches and doctors and like healing practitioners can be really helpful because they can help you set those rules and set those guidelines to help you be a bit healthier.
36:48
SPEAKER_02: But for me, I set them myself and I just had to write down a list, look at the list, check off the things on the checkbox.
36:55
SPEAKER_02: We did this today.
36:56
SPEAKER_02: Congratulations.
36:57
SPEAKER_01: No, I think that that's important.
36:59
SPEAKER_01: I do certain things like that for myself too, or if I'm just like, okay, like even with like my business, like there's certain things where I'm it's kind of like holding yourself accountable in a lot of ways, too, where it's I want to have this finished by the end of the day, or I want to have done this, and you just kind of like hold yourself to that.
37:19
SPEAKER_01: So I think that that is part of that.
37:22
SPEAKER_01: Do you feel like all of those issues came from being in like the dance and gymnastics world?
37:28
SPEAKER_02: I would say probably, but I also don't blame dance and gymnastics for that.
37:34
SPEAKER_02: I grew up in the 90s, which is I feel like when a lot of the trendy diets came about.
37:41
SPEAKER_02: And so just I grew up in that environment of seeing the women in my family trying to do diets to look a certain way.
37:49
SPEAKER_02: If you're a gymnast or a dancer, you are supposed to be quite lean.
37:54
SPEAKER_02: So I was surrounded by a lot of things that kind of told me being thin was the way.
37:59
SPEAKER_02: I would say the biggest thing in my life, actually, though, that kind of set everything off was when I was, I think I was 11 years old, and I was at a friend's birthday party, and this was I had a gymnastic injury and had to stop doing gymnastics for a few months, and I overheard a friend say that I'd gotten chubby, and that set everything off for me.
38:22
SPEAKER_01: I had a moment like that with my father who said something to me when I was a teenager, and that's what threw me into having like an eating disorder.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: And I don't blame him like at all for that, but I feel like there are these moments that for whatever reason set you into this trajectory.
38:40
SPEAKER_02: No, I completely agree.
38:42
SPEAKER_02: And for some people, it's like overhearing a conversation, for others, it's like watching a movie and seeing someone look a certain way.
38:49
SPEAKER_02: I do feel like our brains are funny and that like weird things can set them off, and then weird things can heal them.
38:56
SPEAKER_02: Because when I had my disordered eating, like I wasn't eating was my disorder.
39:01
SPEAKER_02: And I had plenty of people tell me they were concerned and I just didn't listen and didn't care.
39:06
SPEAKER_02: And then it took one kind of friend saying something to me that like flipped the switch in my brain.
39:12
SPEAKER_02: So I feel like our brains are so funny like that, where weird things can set them off in both the positive and negative way.
39:19
SPEAKER_02: And then it can just, yeah, start off this whole spiral for you.
39:22
SPEAKER_02: So for me, it was probably a bit of growing up in that environment of dance and gymnastics where I'm around other small girls, but I definitely blame that one birthday party for being what set me up for just like doom and body dysmorphia for sure.
39:39
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, same as you.
39:40
SPEAKER_02: I don't blame that friend.
39:42
SPEAKER_02: I mean, again, she grew up in the same environment.
39:44
SPEAKER_02: She was an athlete with a bunch of sisters, and okay, this is what I know to be true.
39:49
SPEAKER_02: We gotta just blame the world we live in.
39:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and also I think just not perpetuate it.
39:56
SPEAKER_01: I just don't want my daughter to have to go through what I went through.
39:59
SPEAKER_01: So, like, that's the most thing that I'm just like, I don't want her to even like telepathically hear me think bad about my body about my body because I just don't like I just want to prevent that.
40:12
SPEAKER_01: And I know there's some ways that I probably can't prevent that just because of like the world that we live in.
40:18
SPEAKER_01: But at the same time, I don't want her to feel the way that I felt.
40:23
SPEAKER_01: And I don't want to ever say anything to her about not that I ever would, but you know what I mean.
40:28
SPEAKER_01: So I think there's that piece of it too, is we don't have to like blame anyone, but also not perpetuating it or healing from it so that you're a model for what it looks like when you heal from it.
40:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that's what I'm trying to be for sure.
40:44
SPEAKER_02: I do feel like 10 years ago on social media, I do feel like I lied to people, being like, I'm so happy, like this is how my body A lot of people do.
40:54
SPEAKER_01: I feel like social media is like a way for people to like try to act like they're having a great life or whatever.
41:01
SPEAKER_01: And also, let's be real, like, I think it's annoying when people get on social media and are like show that they're like crying or upset about something.
41:07
SPEAKER_01: I don't need to know that either.
41:09
SPEAKER_01: Like, go talk to your therapist, you know what I mean?
41:12
SPEAKER_01: But at the same time, it's not always everybody's happy.
41:16
SPEAKER_01: And I think that that can be what people interpret from social media, and then it feels like you have to be the same way, even if you're not.
41:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:26
SPEAKER_02: So now I'm I'm so happy that I share the real side of fitness on my social medias.
41:32
SPEAKER_02: And I I definitely in the past, I used to, because I work in fitness, I would prepare for a photo shoot and I would take photos where I look my best, and then I would just post them for six months and I'd be like, I look like this all year round, even though again, I was, as I said, my body was going wild at that time because of the extreme I was exercising at.
41:50
SPEAKER_02: But now I try to not talk about weight a lot.
41:55
SPEAKER_02: I I try to just talk about feeling and looking your best.
41:58
SPEAKER_02: And again, that like less is more approach to exercise is what I try to spread that message, because a lot of what you see in the fitness space on social media is that like perfect image of what I used to post, where it's you always look good and you're always doing all of this.
42:14
SPEAKER_02: This must be the answer.
42:15
SPEAKER_02: So I definitely try to spread the message that there's not one answer, but I agree with you where I feel like the best thing we can do now is try to make sure people don't live the way that we had to live.
42:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
42:30
SPEAKER_01: Are a lot of your clients the same way where they want to change or they have that issue, like where they want to change their 142.
42:39
SPEAKER_01: So if I reflect back on like any time in my life of how I looked or how that I thought, it's really obvious to me now that it's all in my head.
42:49
SPEAKER_01: Like it actually has nothing to do with the way that I look.
42:52
SPEAKER_01: So, like once like I was able to really get that, I'm like, oh, okay, fuck it.
42:56
SPEAKER_01: All I need to do is change how I feel.
42:58
SPEAKER_01: That's easy.
43:00
SPEAKER_01: So to me, that's the goal.
43:02
SPEAKER_01: And again, it's not about like just not being healthy and just being like, oh, I feel great, but it's a different way of viewing it where it's like the way I feel about myself isn't contingent on the way that I look.
43:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
43:17
SPEAKER_02: I always say like the answer to one extreme is not the opposite extreme.
43:20
SPEAKER_02: So if you're currently stuck in that, I'm really stressed about how I look, the answer to that is to not care at all, is to not not care at all.
43:28
SPEAKER_02: You need to find some sort of middle zone.
43:29
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I would say a lot of people that I work with definitely have anxiety to some degree and then have had a lot of the people that I work with, a lot of the women, especially that I work with, have had those past issues with body image and trying to do things that are too extreme and are now looking for a better way to do things.
43:46
SPEAKER_02: And initially I didn't really realize that.
43:49
SPEAKER_02: So when I went through that transition phase in my business where I stepped away from the high intensity workouts, the doing the most, the let's just look good, let's not feel good as well.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: Lot of the people working with me came to me after I shared my story and they're like, Yeah, that's the same for me.
44:05
SPEAKER_02: Like I went through all of the same things you went through.
44:07
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, Oh, that's funny how you just found me before I even talked about this.
44:10
SPEAKER_02: Like our energies just matched in that sense.
44:13
SPEAKER_02: But now a lot of people that I work with do have that overthinking, trying everything, underlying levels of anxiety in their life that causes them to push their bodies to an unhealthy extreme with their exercise and their diet.
44:27
SPEAKER_02: And now they're just looking for a better way to do things, or they don't even realize that they're looking for better things to do, to do things.
44:33
SPEAKER_02: They just need it.
44:34
SPEAKER_01: And then they found me.
44:36
SPEAKER_01: I know that happens to me a lot too, where people like find me and they don't even realize like why exactly they did until yeah, that happens a lot because people are just like attracted to your energy, but they don't really quite understand why.
44:50
SPEAKER_01: And I'm curious too, like, what do you feel?
44:53
SPEAKER_01: I always talk to people about working in the online space and in the coaching industry and stuff like that.
44:58
SPEAKER_01: But like as a fitness coach, what do you feel like is the most challenging or annoying part of working in this industry as a fitness coach, like specifically online?
45:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, as a fitness coach specifically, I have so many issues with the fitness industry.
45:18
SPEAKER_02: I want to know.
45:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just a lot of the fitness industry is about extremes.
45:23
SPEAKER_02: And I have mentioned a couple of these things where it's just people either living in that extreme of you're gonna do the most or you're gonna do nothing.
45:30
SPEAKER_02: And that's just permanently what you see online.
45:33
SPEAKER_02: It's changing a bit now where people are like finding more of that middle zone.
45:38
SPEAKER_02: But a lot of what is fitness challenges where they say, okay, so we're gonna start exercising and walking 10,000 steps a day, and we're gonna drink a gallon of water every day, and we're gonna start this on Monday.
45:50
SPEAKER_02: And that is so extreme.
45:52
SPEAKER_02: That is so unnecessary.
45:54
SPEAKER_02: What you really want to be doing is easing into all of that.
45:57
SPEAKER_02: So even I find fitness coaches who present as being not extreme and then have challenges like that.
46:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, you know that's extreme, right?
46:06
SPEAKER_02: It's not like an intense workout, or you're not asking them to really push their body to the highest level of intensity.
46:14
SPEAKER_02: But asking someone to do a lot and to change their body and their lifestyle overnight is crazy.
46:20
SPEAKER_02: And that's what most of the fitness world is.
46:22
SPEAKER_02: It's we're gonna do everything, or you're not fit.
46:26
SPEAKER_02: And I find a lot of people that come to me then have that like preconception of what fitness is.
46:32
SPEAKER_02: And a lot of clients, I'll have my first conversation with them and they'll say, Yeah, I want to start working out every day.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: Like I really want change, so I'm ready to commit to this.
46:41
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, for me, committing to this means you're not gonna do that.
46:44
SPEAKER_02: You're not gonna work out every day, you're not gonna go to the gym for an hour, you're not gonna go from walking 1,000 steps a day to 10,000 steps a day.
46:52
SPEAKER_02: Instead, you're gonna do 10-minute workouts a couple times a week and walk 2,000 steps a day.
46:57
SPEAKER_02: Like it really should be about those baby steps so that you can create a lifestyle that you can sustain and you're creating something that you can do long term.
47:06
SPEAKER_02: But most of the fitness industry is those big jumps because small jumps aren't flashy.
47:12
SPEAKER_02: Like they're not a sexy sell to tell someone, yeah, I'm gonna help you get in shape.
47:16
SPEAKER_02: And in three months, you'll create the routine that you think you need.
47:20
SPEAKER_02: You won't create it next week.
47:21
SPEAKER_02: That's not flashy or cool or a fun sell, but it is what we need to be doing.
47:27
SPEAKER_02: So I wish that the fitness industry would just change from being what sells to what's actually healthy and safe for people because everyone I've ever worked with has said they've tried at least five different fitness programs or they've gone through some cycle of, well, I used to exercise and then I fell off eventually, and then I'm ready to start again.
47:47
SPEAKER_02: I want people to not ever fall off.
47:49
SPEAKER_02: That's my goal as a coach.
47:51
SPEAKER_02: But again, that's not how most of the fitness industry is set up because fitness studios, if you go to in-person classes, they do those like 30-day challenges where you're supposed to go every day for 30 days, or fitness programs online.
48:06
SPEAKER_02: They say, okay, we're gonna start doing all of this for two months, but it needs to be a much slower and gradual process if you want it to stick and be healing for your nervous system and all of that good stuff.
48:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I totally agree.
48:18
SPEAKER_01: And you know what's funny?
48:20
SPEAKER_01: Like I've been athletic my whole life, and I also just appreciate exercise.
48:24
SPEAKER_01: And it was instilled in me at a young age to like it.
48:27
SPEAKER_01: So I've never had a time in my life where I didn't do some sort of exercise.
48:31
SPEAKER_01: I mean, at times it was from a place of not liking my body, but like now for the most part, it's about my own well-being.
48:40
SPEAKER_01: But I see for a lot of people who struggle with a routine is like that extreme of like feeling like you have to do it all the time.
48:50
SPEAKER_01: And you know what's interesting too?
48:52
SPEAKER_01: I always say this to people because that's one of the biggest things people will say to me is I can't stick with a routine.
48:58
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, yeah, but what if it's just that once you stop that routine, maybe you're just supposed to start something different?
49:07
SPEAKER_01: Cause I feel like routines are supposed to change, like you're not supposed to do the same thing all the time.
49:13
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of like, you know, how if you take a supplement and then you like stop taking it or forget about it, it's kind of like, well, maybe you just didn't need to take it anymore.
49:21
SPEAKER_01: So maybe if you stop doing the thing, maybe you just need to do something else and it's not bad.
49:28
SPEAKER_01: Like there's nothing wrong with that.
49:30
SPEAKER_01: Don't make it into something bad.
49:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I always say you need to find what suits the current season of your life.
49:37
SPEAKER_02: And I feel like the transition between seasons is where people get stuck because this is what happens with a lot of like ex-athletes that I talk to.
49:46
SPEAKER_02: Once they finish their sport, then they're not sure what the next thing looks like.
49:52
SPEAKER_02: And for even if you're not an athlete, I feel like a lot of people experience this where they do something and then that thing ends, or it doesn't feel good anymore, or it's not working anymore, and then they're just not sure what to do.
50:02
SPEAKER_02: So then they stop everything.
50:04
SPEAKER_02: And that is the thing that I would like to see change where people can have an easier time in those transitions between seasons and also not to view exercise and working out as like this big thing.
50:17
SPEAKER_02: It should be as normal as like brushing your teeth.
50:21
SPEAKER_02: Like you just live an active life.
50:22
SPEAKER_02: This is just what you do.
50:24
SPEAKER_02: And some days maybe you forget to brush your teeth or you just don't, and that just happens and it's okay, and it's not this big deal in the end of the world.
50:31
SPEAKER_02: So I would like people to start viewing exercise as that as something that can shift with your seasons and isn't like this end all be all, but it should be present in your life.
50:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
50:42
SPEAKER_01: And it's funny because I've experienced that a lot with what do I want to do?
50:46
SPEAKER_01: Like when I because I did yoga and then I was very serious with a Shanga for a very long time.
50:52
SPEAKER_01: But then once I had my kids, I just didn't have the wherewithal.
50:55
SPEAKER_01: I still did a Shanga a little bit.
50:57
SPEAKER_01: I really didn't have the energy or like the capacity for it when my kids were little.
51:02
SPEAKER_01: And then more recently, I'm like, I really want to do something like because I love like really high disciplined things and like getting really good at something.
51:12
SPEAKER_01: It's just good for my like brain type.
51:15
SPEAKER_01: And I try to do a Shangha again, but I'm like, I don't know.
51:17
SPEAKER_01: I just don't want to do this again.
51:19
SPEAKER_01: And then I I walk and I do the Peloton and it's like fine, but I don't feel like, ooh, I love this.
51:25
SPEAKER_01: And I just do it because it's there and it's great, don't get me wrong.
51:29
SPEAKER_01: But I recently started learning this, it's a very obscure ancient Indian martial art.
51:36
SPEAKER_01: It's called Kalari, it's like from the south of India, and not a lot of people know about it, but it's interesting because it originated very close to where a Shangha originated, but it's more of like a martial art, almost like a dance, which is crazy because I'm like the worst dancer ever.
51:52
SPEAKER_01: And I keep getting really tripped up on like these coordination things.
51:56
SPEAKER_01: But anyway, so I found this and I feel like I finally found something that I'm like so into and so excited about for the first time in so long.
52:05
SPEAKER_01: And it's like the best feeling because it's like such a different feeling than like just doing something because you have to work out.
52:14
SPEAKER_01: Like I stopped doing a Shangha like seven years ago, I don't know, a little while ago.
52:19
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, finally, I found something that is like has a meaning to it.
52:24
SPEAKER_01: It has this like deep energy behind it.
52:27
SPEAKER_01: But it took me a long time to find that thing.
52:30
SPEAKER_01: And I think, like you said, that's where people just fall off.
52:34
SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, I'm not doing this anymore.
52:35
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know what to do.
52:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, or it's either your interests change, or a lot of people also fall off at that time if their body stops like responding to the workout they're doing, where they're like, I'm not really changing or feeling strong anymore, like something's up, this obviously doesn't work.
52:51
SPEAKER_02: And then it's I guess I'm doing nothing now.
52:53
SPEAKER_02: Like it does seem like that.
52:55
SPEAKER_02: But I I'm glad you pointed that out that like you found something that you really enjoy doing because I think that's what's so amazing about movement and fitness.
53:04
SPEAKER_02: There are so many ways you can move your body.
53:07
SPEAKER_02: So if you are saying, like, yeah, I just I just hate exercise or I just hate moving, I would probably say to you, you've not found something you enjoy yet, because there are so many ways to move your body.
53:19
SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure when this is gonna go live, but the Olympics are on right now, and you can see there are so many sports that you like don't even realize are that you've never heard of.
53:26
SPEAKER_02: There are so many ways you can move your body, and it doesn't have to look like that traditional, oh, I I go to the gym, I lift some weights, I jog.
53:35
SPEAKER_02: That's if you like that, that's amazing.
53:37
SPEAKER_02: But that's boring for a lot of people, and it doesn't work for a lot of people, and then that can cause them to fall off the routine and just do nothing.
53:46
SPEAKER_02: So if you are in that space, you're like, I just haven't found anything I like, then try to find something you like.
53:51
SPEAKER_02: Go through that investigative journey, like try different things, or just remind yourself what it felt like to play as a kid.
53:57
SPEAKER_02: What did you enjoy doing when you were a kid and what was fun for you?
54:00
SPEAKER_02: Try to find that joy again.
54:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that that's so important.
54:04
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
54:05
SPEAKER_01: I think if I didn't like exercise, I would literally be like an insane person.
54:10
SPEAKER_01: So I have to do that for like my mental health.
54:15
SPEAKER_01: I feel like, and everyone's built differently, but but anyway, I totally agree and I love your approach and I think that it's really important and like just continuing with this idea of it's about feeling good and loving yourself and not fighting against yourself is where we have to be going.
54:35
SPEAKER_01: So it's really important.
54:38
SPEAKER_02: No, I agree.
54:39
SPEAKER_02: I would just invite everyone to examine your body every day or if you are exercising, examine how you feel.
54:46
SPEAKER_02: Are you feeling energized?
54:48
SPEAKER_02: Are you feeling happy?
54:49
SPEAKER_02: If you are trying to exercise to lower your stress, do you feel less stressed?
54:53
SPEAKER_02: Examine those things and see if you feel like your lifestyle is leaving you feeling that way.
54:58
SPEAKER_02: And if it's not, it means you're maybe trying to force something that's not exactly working for you.
55:02
SPEAKER_02: Because I find that that's a big thing in the fitness space, is people are trying to force themselves to do some sort of picture perfect exercise routine, but then their body's not really responding because it's not really what they want.
55:15
SPEAKER_02: So you do need to tailor your workouts to what you find joyful and what your body enjoys.
55:22
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
55:22
SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom.
55:25
SPEAKER_01: And can you just let everyone know where they can find you and how they can connect with you?
55:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
55:32
SPEAKER_02: So if you listen to this and you either relate to my story and you want to bond over that, feel free to reach out to me on social media.
55:39
SPEAKER_02: I have an Instagram, it's under my business name, which is MFitPeriod Workouts.
55:45
SPEAKER_02: So you can reach me there.
55:46
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55:51
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56:01
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56:10
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56:22
SPEAKER_01: Cool.
56:22
SPEAKER_01: We will link that below.
56:23
SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
56:24
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56:33
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56:40
SPEAKER_02: So if you are in this space where you're feeling really tired and really stressed and you're not losing weight, that could really give you a lot of answers.
56:47
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56:47
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