Why Holiness Is Not a Checklist or a Ladder but a Lifelong Journey | Matt Chandler

Crosswalk Talk: Celebrity Christian Interviews · May 21, 2026 · 24m · transcript

Matt Chandler, Senior Pastor of The Village Church in Texas and author of the new book Becoming Like Jesus, has been pastoring the same congregation for nearly 25 years. He has watched 20-year-olds from the Dallas party scene get radically saved, get married, lose children, walk through divorce, battle addiction, and slowly become more like Jesus across decades. He has also survived a terminal brain cancer diagnosis, endured seven years of a painful marriage, and come out the other side convinced that the Christian life was never meant to be up into the right — and that the lie that it…