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Win-Win Proposals & Effective Business Outreach · Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint

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Hello and welcome to the show. Today is one of those Tata 4
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episodes where I'm going to be sharing random business outreach
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that I got a few days ago. So for the purposes of this
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episode, let's call the guy the person who reached out to me.
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Let's call him Cool Guy 587. Again, Cool Guy 587.
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This is not his real name. I'm using this just to protect
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his identity. So the fellow reached out to me
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on the 11th of July. The year was 2024.
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That's the current year of the recording.
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And it was a WhatsApp outreach. He said he found my podcast on
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Spotify and he's listened to a couple of episodes while he was
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working out at the gym. And for that I'm really
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grateful. I love you guys who find me
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wherever Spotify, iTunes, Google, OK, no, Google podcast
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is not around anymore. I think they shelved that.
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But bottom line, wherever it is that you find the show, I'm
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really grateful that you guys find it and you make it a part
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of your your life, your daily routines and all that.
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So I'm really grateful for you guys.
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So that's the reason why I'm hoping that cool guy 587 and
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then the other person listening to the podcast, you don't take
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it. Hopefully you guys are not going
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to take it that I'm making us taking shots or this is a slight
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again, school guy 587. It's just that I receive
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business outreach from people and you know, my mentee that
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I've gotten from the podcast and two or three of the ladies
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who've reached out before. You know, I've made podcast
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episodes like this, like the conversations with Remila Kuhn,
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where I talk about how you guys should be structuring your
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business outreach to make it much more effective.
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Because a bunch of you are trying to reach out to people,
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trying to do business with people, trying to build
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relationships with people and going about it the wrong way,
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going about it in ways that might actually be harming your
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your business interests. So like I said, cool guy 587
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found me on Spotify, listens to me at the gym.
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And so he reached out on WhatsApp because he wanted to
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nurture the relationship for future collaboration.
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And then he also sent a link to his website, you know, something
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that he was working on. And OK, that's one thing you
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guys shouldn't be doing. I mean, if you're going to have
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a call to action and keep it the same and keep it simple, don't
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be all over the place. So cool guy 587 sends me a link
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to your website for something that he's currently developing.
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But then later on in the message, he says that his
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specialty is real estate. So if you're reaching out to
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someone, it helps you if you guys can just pick a lane.
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So if I'm reaching out to someone, I don't start with, I'm
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a former wedding photographer, currently a business growth
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podcaster and consultant. And then, you know, I don't run
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the whole gamut. You know, I, I pick a lane and I
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stick to that sort of thing. So if someone makes me an
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introduction, like a former client called me up, I was like,
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hey, what's up? I know you've been podcasting a
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lot. Do you still do event
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photography? And I said, no, I don't.
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I prefer to do the corporate stuff, which is like, yeah, I
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know, I know, I know. But you know what this is this
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person is she's my girl and I like your style.
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So please help me take care of her.
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You know, blah, blah, blah. I'll hook up the introduction.
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So that's OK. I know I Hala, you know, I'll
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run it because it's for you. And so I call up the person and
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I don't start the whole spiel with I'm a business growth
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podcaster, sales consultant, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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You know, I keep it to one lane. I'm calling because, you know,
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the whole purpose of the call is photography related.
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So I keep, I keep that to the whole how I put it.
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I stuck to one script. Let me put it that way.
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So I'm reaching out to people. Don't say this is me.
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Check out this fintech I'm building.
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And then later on you now say, Oh, I'm really into real estate,
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you know, so pick a link. If you're going to do the
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fintech thing, fintech it all the way.
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That's when you're reaching out to someone.
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If you're going to do the real estate thing, real estate it all
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the way. So send me a link to the
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website. And then of course, I'm always
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open to collaborations because, you know, I've done
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collaborations in the past. There's a show that was produced
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and recorded by my friend Nina Battuba, who is a communication
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specialist based in Canada. And so you've been collaborating
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on that episode and there've been a couple of other
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collaborations. I mean, not much.
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And of course, in the speaking engagements that I have with
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different organizations, some of them have been collaborations
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where we try and derive mutual benefits.
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So I'm always open to those sorts of things.
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Some people send me messages saying that they're open for
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future collaboration. I'm like, yeah, sure, cool,
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let's let's have the conversation.
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And so I replied it again. I'm like, OK, cool
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collaboration. Noah, Hello.
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So what's up? And this is what Cool Guy 587
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says in summary, he says he wants to Co host my podcast and
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then later on in the future, I can do some consulting for his
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brand and he's just trying to keep options open.
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Now for those of you who've been in business for a while, I'm
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sure you might be surprised, but let me repeat it again.
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This was Cool Guy 587's idea of a collaboration.
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He wanted to Co host my podcast, a platform that I've built over
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several years. We have close to 890 episodes
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right now on the podcast. So he wants to Co host it.
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OK, no problem. Then he also says that I might
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be able to consult for his brand sometime in the future.
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So he wants to be on my platform and he thinks it would be an
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equal exchange for me to do paid consulting for his brand at some
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time in the future. Not determined.
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And then he's keeping options open.
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By the way, the reason why I'm making this podcast recording
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right now is because I called up the gang 'cause I didn't have a
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conversation with him. Because I like to have these
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conversations, you know, man to man or adult adult, Like in the
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case of Ramiliko, when I called up to have the conversation
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because I think having the text back and forth is not going to
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convey what it is I'm trying to pass across.
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And also because, you know, we're adults here.
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So if you want to reach out to someone because you want to do
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business in the future or whatever, you have proposal, you
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have a presentation or something, you know, you should
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be up to having a a face to face conversation or a phone
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conversation or whatever about the whole thing.
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So I wanted to tell him all these things first ear to ear or
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mouth to ear or face to face or whatever, before making a
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podcast episode about it. But he declined to have this
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phone call. So let me just go ahead and make
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the podcast episode, you know, So if he listens to future
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episodes, hopefully he's going to come across this and I hope
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he takes it in the best light because this is not, I'm a slant
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and it's not me taking shots. It's just me trying to be real
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with Cool Guy 587 and with other people like Cool Guy 587 and
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Remy Lacoon and others who have reached out in the past.
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And your outreach was a little bit off.
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I'm just reaching out to you guys, let you know I look, I get
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where you're coming from. I applaud your hassle because
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that was me a couple of years ago when I was relocating from
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when I came back from Scotland and I moved, moved back to Lagos
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was the same thing. I had to get into the event
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game, you know, I had to cold reach out to people to try and
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do business. And when I left Lagos, I came to
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Abuja was the same thing. I had to reach out cold to be
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able to do business. So I applaud your hustle, all of
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you, you know, you young cats, you know, 1828, you know that
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kind of range. I applaud your hustle.
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It's cool that people are doing this because some of us, you
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know, back in uni days, instead of trying to get the hustle
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going or get the business going, we're spending time, you know,
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when you're a union now, you know how you just just reflect
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just to enjoy yourself. And some of us didn't start
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these things on two way in our 30s.
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So those of you who are 18/20/20, 5:00-ish, you know, I
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applaud your hustle and it's good that you've got this thing
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going. So for KU guy 587, for Remy
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Lekum, for all the others who have reached out to me for, you
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know, collaborations, proposals or whatever.
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Well, Remy Lekum was not a collaborational proposal.
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I just remember her right now because I'm hers is I think the
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most successful case that I've had so far because she's
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listened and I've actually coached down two or three
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opportunities and I'm glad with the progress that she's making.
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So you guys are going to go very, very far because you've
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started well, a cool guy, 587. You have started well at your
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age. He's 26.
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He already has, you know, a couple of things going.
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You know, definitely one thing will click, especially since
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he's open to business outreach like this anyway, so back to his
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idea for a collaboration. He wants to Co host and then
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maybe I might consult for his brand later on in the future and
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he's keeping options open. So cool guy 587, let me just
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come out and let you know that you try and hit up someone like
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this in the future, whether it's a guy or a girl age mate or
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somebody older or younger or whatever.
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Most likely the person will consider it an insult because
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you don't reach out to someone saying that you want to get on
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their platform and then the only thing that you can provide in
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return is maybe they might do consulting for your brand later
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on in the future. The average person is going to
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consider that an insult. I didn't consider that an insult
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because I knew where you were coming from.
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That's the reason why I asked the next question that I did,
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which is when I asked you, how old are you now?
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Cougar 587 responded saying, do I ask guys for their age?
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And I'm like, no, that I've only had to ask two guys for their
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age since I started this podcast.
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And he responded, he said he's 26.
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And so like I confirmed, the reason why some of you make this
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kind of moves is because, to be honest, you don't know any
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better. So you're a little young, you're
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a little green, and you have inexperience behind you.
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And so you don't know how some of these things might come
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across. So at the time, it seemed like
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it was OK, but most people consider that an insult.
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I don't consider it an insult because I have also been a 2630
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year old starting off in business and running around
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talking to people about making proposals, introductions and
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strategic strategic partnerships.
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Yeah, I've been running around doing that before, so I know the
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mistakes. That's why I asked you.
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I need to confirm. I knew you were kind of
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youngish, so I figured let me ask.
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Cool guy 587. I'm not insulting you all 'cause
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I also remember being 25 thinking I was a man.
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But The thing is, as you grow older, you just realize that.
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Or more, when you want your 20s, you didn't know Jack.
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And to be honest, when I'm even looking back and I realized that
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when I'm in my third, when I was in my 30s, I didn't know Jack.
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And with the mistakes that I'm making now in business and
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parenting, I kind of suspect that when I hit my 60s, I
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wouldn't think that my 40s and 50s, I didn't know Jack.
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So it's just one of those things.
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So I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to insult you or
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anything. So, yeah.
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So we young men who are trying to reach out in our early years,
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usually in our 20s, yeah, we always reach out with lopsided
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proposals. Most people consider a lopsided
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proposal an insult. So I'm really glad that you're a
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listener to the show and that you called in.
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That's the reason why I reached out, because I need to drop
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these Nuggets with you, man to man.
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As in straight. Let's have the conversation
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before I make the podcast episode.
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But then he declined and because he was in the meeting, so I
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decided to call him back anyway. I need to take a break.
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I'll be back in a moment. OK guys, I'm back.
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I'm sorry, I had to take a break as because wifey walked in on a
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recording and on on that recording.
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And so we had to have a brief conversation.
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In fact, speaking about wifey, she had some contributions to,
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you know, this whole matter because after everything was
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done, you know, I called up to give her the gist and she had a
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really interesting suggestion. And bear in mind that my wife is
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not from a sales and business development background.
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She is she works for a government regulator and she is
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in legal. And from the suggestions that
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you will hear that she gave later on about how to handle
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these sorts of things, a suggestion to cool guy 587.
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That's if she happened to know cool guy 587, if cool guy was,
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you know, one of her people, the suggestion that she would have
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given. You'll see that sometimes if we
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just slow down a bit, maybe not too exuberant, we can actually
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come up with proposals in quote, collaborations in pro, in quote,
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strategic partnership offers in quote, whatever it is that you
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want to call it, you can actually make this thing work.
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But anyway, we'll get to that later.
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So I think at the time Wifey came, I was in the middle of
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saying basically that the whole point of this recording is I
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want to share some benefits to Cougar 587 and all the young
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listeners of the podcast. Because currently the
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listenership of the podcast is currently is mostly male, over
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70% male. I still would like some more
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female listeners because I started off this journey not
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just wanting to share tips and tricks about sales, business
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development and stuff like that, but also hoping to appeal to a
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female audience precisely because from the age of 13, I
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was raised by a single mom. Yeah, I've already done podcast
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episode about that. So the no need to go into that
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again. But bottom line is I've been
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surrounded from about 1314. I've been surrounded by women on
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the come up trying to do their hustle, trying to arrange their
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own affairs, put everything in order.
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And I have seen first hand the benefits.
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You know what happens when we save women on the right
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trajectory because when you, what's the word?
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When you arrange a woman, then put it that way, if you arrange
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a woman, you arrange your wife, you arrange daughters, when you
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arrange your sisters, when you help facilitate certain things
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in business, career development, those sorts of things.
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It's not just the woman's trajectory that you're setting
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right? We also setting right the
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trajectory of her kids. And of course, because of how
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you women are, those of you listening to this podcast, you
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know, when you're on the come up and you get us more money, you
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know, you don't only take care of yourselves, you take care of
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your parents, you take care of your siblings, you know, things
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like that. So really, when you help set a
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woman up, you're setting up a whole generation, a whole
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ecosystem around them. And so it's part of the reason
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why I do what I do on the podcast.
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I'm also hoping that my mother's my sisters, my cousins, my, my,
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that I mean, all of you, those of you feeble listeners who are
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not directly related to me. I'm hoping that there's a bunch
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of stuff that you guys can learn.
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So that whatever your circumstance, you know, whether
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you're married and still living with your husband or whether
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everything has scattered and you're along with the kids or
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whether you're a single mom or you know, whatever the
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circumstance, even if you know, you know, kids are not in
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question yet, but you're in uni or you're trying to arrange
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yourself, you're trying to build a life like like Xena from
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Uniport who reached out the podcast episode that I did 333
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four days ago. If this is your first time
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listening to show, I want to get more details about that.
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Then after you're done listening to this, you know, try and skip
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back 3-4 episodes. I can't remember what I titled
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it, but I think Kate Rising the title or online phone vendor
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must be in the title because she's an online food vendor
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based out of Uniport Port Aqua. So yeah, Anyway, so I'm just
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trying to share benefits to the young folks listening to this so
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far as mostly men. I'm hoping more women are going
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to start listening in the future.
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So if you're a female listener, please share this with other
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ladies that you listen to. If you think the problem is I'm
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talking too much man lingo or something now, hit me up, let me
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know and sending your questions and I could start tackling
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questions that women would be much more interested in hearing
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from learning about them and you get the gist.
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So so far as mostly men, the ages are between 18 to 27.
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That's 13% of the listeners are between 18.
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Sorry, 18 to 22 and then another 36% of the listeners to the show
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are between 23 and 27 and that's where cool guy 587 falls in and
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then the zero to 17 age group that is just under 1%.
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I'm going to assume that I don't have a bunch of five year olds
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listening to this podcast 'cause that would really, really be
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interesting anyway, so that's the age breakdown.
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So this episode is supposed to share some Nuggets to those of
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you who are young and enthusiastic.
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You 18 to 27 year olds, young and enthusiastic, going out
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there, taking your shots. Here's how to do business
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outreach in such a way that you don't come across as insulting
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or not properly considered. So the first tip I'm going to
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give to you guys is stop using the word proposal in your
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outreach. Don't use the word proposal.
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Don't use the word introduction. Don't talk about strategic
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partnerships. Don't talk about strategic
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alliances. Now, if you are based in the UK,
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if you're based in America, if you're based in Australia, I
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don't know how things work over there, but in Nigeria, Nigerian
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business people value two things and two things only, the value
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#1 money and the value #2 customers.
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Let me repeat again, the average Nigerian person values money and
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they value customers. When you come in talking
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proposal, introduction, strategic partnership, future
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collaboration, future strategic, this strategic alliance.
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So you know, whatever it is that you're trying to call it,
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whatever it is you call it, if at the end of the day, the
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person listening to you doesn't see that this thing would
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generate me money and won't give me customers.
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The average Nigerian business person especially in the SME
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space is not interested. Let me repeat, they are not
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interested. Everybody's trying to do their
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hustle. If you come standing all slick
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and educated and cool, talking strategic partnerships, but the
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person can't see what's in it for me money wise, what's in it
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for me customer wise, it's it's not going to work.
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So you want to be more effective, stop that.
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If you want to have a successful cold pitch, reach out to someone
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and head straight for the point. Show them how what you're
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proposing is going to give them money.
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Show them how what you're talking about is going to give
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them customers. That is the most successful way
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to make a cold pitch to a Nigerian business person.
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If you hit someone up and you say, OK, let me try and rewrite
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Cool Guy 587's pitch. You reach out to someone and you
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say, hey, what's up? I found your podcast.
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I love it, listen to it at the gym, blah, blah, blah.
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And while I was listening, I had this particular idea.
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It can't be executed this way. It would require an investment
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of so, so, so and so. But I think we pull it off
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right? And you're able to drop X
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amount. I'm able to drop Y amount.
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I think we should be able to come up with XYZ amount of
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number at the end. And if that works, I'm proposing
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that you take X percent. I take Y percent.
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Is that something you'd be interested in having a
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conversation about now, those kinds of conversations?
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Oh, yeah, sure. No problem.
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I'll pick up the phone and I'll call you.
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And I say, OK, what's up? What are you working on?
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How's this thing work? How do I come in this percentage
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that I proposed? Can we do it this way instead?
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You know, blah, blah, blah. We can have the conversation
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now. Like I said, it doesn't have to
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be about money. It can also be about customers.
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I'm listening to the show blah blah blah.
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I have this thing in mind if we run it like this with your input
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here and my own input here, hopefully out there, we should
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be able to come up with customers for both me and you.
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Would you be interested in having the conversation?
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I'll pick up the phone, I'll call and a lot of business
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owners who would also call even if they don't know you from Adam
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because you're reaching out to what Nigerian business owners
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want to hear, which is either money or customers.
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Now this lack of proposal introduction, strategic
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partnership, strategic alliance, special utility, special
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purpose, this and this and that and that, it works in Nigeria on
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a certain level in the corporate space.
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So if you're MTN, you can reach out to Nikon Insurance or you
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can reach out to, I don't know, Hilton Hotel, or you can reach
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out to some other business and other agency and start talking
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proposal, introduction, strategic partnership.
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Let's get together, let's have meeting, let's keep options
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open, blah, blah, blah. At that level in the corporate
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space, that kind of jargon, it works.
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That lingo works. Once you leave that space and
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you come back down to SM ES and you're making this kind of
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outreach. Cool Guy 587.
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It is a cold pitch. Just head straight.
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I hit the thing on the head. Show this person how you're
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offering to make them more money.
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Show this person how you're offering to make them customers.
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Give them customers. And this is the point where let
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me just mention what Wifey recommended when I was telling
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her the whole thing, when I was giving her the gist about the
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proposal in quotes that I received, This is what she
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recommended. She said I was a pity because
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this guy seems like he actually is a is a cool dude.
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But if it was her, that's what wifey said.
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Now you know, if it was meal and I knew this guy, this is what I
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would have told him to do. I would have told him to reach
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out and say hi and then pay a compliment.
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Then I would have told the guy to say that this your podcast,
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it seems to be really, really popular with the youth.
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But however, you're a bone, you're an older demographic,
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unlike some of us who are younger listeners to the show.
22:23
And so because of that, I think you might not be connecting with
22:26
younger audiences the way that you should.
22:30
Would you be open to taking a phone call with me?
22:33
I have a couple of solutions that might help you connect more
22:36
with younger audiences. That is what my wife came up
22:40
with on the spot. And my wife has no sales
22:43
training. Let me repeat, my wife said if
22:46
it was her guy, because there are people at work that my wife
22:50
has taken an interest in and she's mentoring and stuff like
22:52
that, so she's always giving them tips.
22:54
So if it was one of her people, that's what she would have told
22:57
the person. Reach out to this podcaster, say
23:00
hello, pay a compliment, point out that the podcast is popular
23:04
with the youth but that because of the age of the host he might
23:08
be missing out connecting with younger demographic, younger
23:11
audiences. And then offer to offered to
23:17
have a call or a meeting so that you can pitch how to connect.
23:21
How this podcaster can connect with younger audiences.
23:26
Now during that phone call, if he had now started the whole
23:30
thing of Co hosting, can you guys see how him pitching Co
23:36
hosting on my show would seem more palatable if he had taken
23:40
this approach? So the destination is the same
23:46
in his own case, but you go about it one way, it seems like
23:50
an insult. You go about it another way, it
23:52
looks like you're trying to do me a favor.
23:55
Of course, I'm not dumb. I know that somebody trying to
23:58
get on my platform, especially now that it's been on for a
24:01
couple of years, almost 890 episodes, I understand that this
24:04
will give the person a bit of exposure as well.
24:06
But you can see how somebody coming at this from this angle
24:09
saying, let me see how you can connect with younger
24:11
demographics, how it might at least seem appealing.
24:15
I guess what I'm trying to say is there are much better ways of
24:19
sneaking in through the door now.
24:23
Also, this is a perfect example of why business is difficult or
24:27
business seems difficult for most people because a lot of you
24:29
are using the wrong template and you're being excessively self
24:34
focused. The solution, the simple
24:37
solution that I propose, especially to the people that
24:41
I'm currently proposing right now, because I'm trying out a
24:43
whole bunch of metaphors that able to pretend that this is a
24:47
romantic relationship. A romantic relationship is not
24:50
going to work if you come in like that saying this is me, I'm
24:54
a fine boy, I'm a cool guy, date me.
24:57
It doesn't work like that. Or you come in saying this is
25:00
me, I'm a fine girl, date me. You know, that's, that's not how
25:05
it works. So you come in, pay more
25:08
attention to the other person, be other focused, pay them a
25:11
couple of compliments, try and figure out who they are, what
25:14
they're interested in, their goals, their problems, their
25:16
desires. You try and be helpful.
25:18
You try and work with them along that path.
25:19
And then it's after that you can now propose marriage.
25:22
So you come and yes, you may think you're a fine boy and
25:25
everything, but you don't go straight to, will you marry me?
25:27
You come and say sister BC oh, how are you doing?
25:30
You sing very well in the choir, blah, blah, blah.
25:32
It looks like you're really serious in your work with the
25:34
Lord and she'll tell you about her convention story and
25:36
everything. I know what not and you will
25:38
just continue to be friends. You're trying to help her be a
25:40
good Christian you know you follow half a Bible study.
25:43
You buy her tapes. OK no they don't do tapes and C
25:49
DS anymore. Well anyway you just try and
25:51
foster, you know her love with the Lord and the music and the
25:54
everything and he just be following each other.
25:56
People continue to be friends. After a while you now propose
25:58
marriage and then the thing clicks.
26:00
Assuming that marriage is what you are running after in the 1st
26:02
place. But I'm just saying just pretend
26:05
it's romantic, pay more attention to the other person,
26:09
try and align with their interests, with their goals,
26:12
with their desires. And then it's after that that
26:14
you can try and seal the deal, whatever it is.
26:17
The deal is that you're trying to the deal that you're trying
26:22
to close. So methods like this, like what
26:30
I'm arguing against that most people do, it's not going to
26:33
work because some people might find it insulting.
26:37
At the very least, it's either going to be irrelevant or not
26:40
tailored to the person that you're trying to reach out to.
26:42
And when that happens, most people are going to ignore and
26:45
most people are going to block. So I know for a fact that if
26:50
Kouga 587 has reached out to multiple people, I know for a
26:54
fact that he's been ignored by lots of people.
26:55
And so Kouga 587, if most people haven't been responding to your
26:59
proposals, This is why the approach is all wrong.
27:02
Now, the good news is I'm not ignoring or blocking anybody yet
27:05
because I'm still getting to know my audience.
27:08
And so I'm leaving the communications channel open.
27:10
And so that's why I'm chatting with everybody, with Cougar 587,
27:14
with Remy Leko, who is now my person who helps me out when
27:16
it's time for presentations. In fact, there's the AISME small
27:22
and medium scale. What SM?
27:24
What's SME again? Small and medium scale
27:26
enterprise, let's just say small business.
27:28
So there's the AI Small business summit that's going to be coming
27:30
up. So I definitely will be reaching
27:32
out to Remy Akon to help me again with the slides because I
27:35
hate PowerPoint and I do not like giving slides.
27:38
But you know how it is in Ijana it only for some people, they
27:42
insist that there must be slides.
27:43
So, so Remy Akon, if you're, if you're listening, I'll be in
27:46
touch in a couple of weeks. So excuse me.
27:48
So they can help me with my slides just like the last time.
27:52
So yeah, I'm still getting to know everybody.
27:54
And I really, really love the conversations that I've been
27:56
having with everyone. You know, the lady from
27:59
Cameroon, Xena, Port Harcourt, cool guy, 587, not his real
28:04
name. Everybody that I've been in
28:06
touch with, you know, thank you very much.
28:08
I love you guys, love that you're following my show.
28:11
And it's been a pleasure getting to know you guys and also to be
28:15
able to help out in any way that I can.
28:18
So for those of you who are listening to the show who
28:20
haven't reached out still, yeah, go ahead, reach out.
28:24
You'll get my contact details soon.
28:26
I appreciate all of you, especially young girls and young
28:29
guys like Cool Guy 587. I firmly believe that you guys
28:33
are the future of Nigeria because you guys have started
28:38
early. Your brains are screwed on
28:39
straight and you're trying to build viable assets for
28:42
yourselves and viable assets that are going to change the
28:44
trajectory of your families. So you guys continue.
28:47
So cool guy 587. I mean, I've got none, but a lot
28:50
for you. Just continue with the hustle.
28:52
You know, whether it's the fintech thing or the real estate
28:55
thing, you know, something will click.
28:56
So just continue. But as you listen to the
28:58
podcast, just take dressing on a couple of things that I've been
29:00
saying. Then don't just listen to only
29:03
my own podcast. Look for other podcasts as well.
29:05
You mentioned how you've been listening looking for Nigerian
29:07
podcasts. There are business related and
29:10
there are lots of others. There have started coming across
29:12
some, you know, in the banking space, marketing space, all
29:14
kinds of things. So pay attention, you know,
29:17
listen, you'll get tips and tricks and frameworks to help
29:24
propel you along. So keep up with the hustle.
29:26
You guys are the future of Niger and we are behind you.
29:32
What's that word? Powerfully as you should say
29:34
back in university. So we're behind you powerfully.
29:37
So connect with me on WhatsApp. The phone number is 08064662140.
29:44
The country code is +234 for those of you who are not
29:47
Nigerian. And please, like I said, don't
29:50
start the conversation with proposal strategic, alliance
29:53
strategic, this future beneficial mutual something
29:57
partnership, you know, caught all that crap.
30:00
If it's business outreach, then let's get straight down and talk
30:03
business. Let's talk money or let's talk
30:05
customers. Let's see how you reaching out
30:10
to me, trying to get involved. Let's see how we can do both
30:14
'cause I'm open to growing jointly with folks as long as
30:18
we're clear about what it is we're trying to do and where
30:21
we're heading. But if it's that you're in uni
30:26
like Zeno and you think you are strapped at the moment and you
30:31
need help trying to walk through a couple of things, let me know.
30:34
And of course, I also freestyle. Let's see how we can get you out
30:36
of this jam. Because yes, I leverage this
30:40
podcast for paid speaking and coaching opportunities, but that
30:44
doesn't mean that if I run into someone who is in a tight spot,
30:47
I won't try and help out. Because for me, trying to help
30:50
out people in these sorts of situations, sometimes it's just
30:53
a quick five minute phone call. Try this, try this, try this.
30:57
And then people make progress in what it is that they're doing.
30:59
So if I have minute phone call cost me nothing, especially if
31:04
you're hard working and you're willing to carry out the advice
31:07
that I give you on the call and also connect with me on
31:11
LinkedIn. My name is Tavishima Ayede, I'm
31:13
the host of the show. You can confirm the spelling of
31:15
my name from the link. We're currently listening to
31:17
this episode. My e-mail address is there in
31:19
case you're an e-mail person. So thank you very much guys for
31:22
listening to the show. And again, cool guy 587, I want
31:26
to restate again because I don't want you to be offended.
31:31
You know, this was not a slight that you, I wanted to have this
31:36
conversation face to face, ear to ear, mouth to ear, whatever
31:40
it is, you know, directly man to man and speak with you.
31:44
In fact, if we had picked up the phone would have had a cool
31:47
casual conversation and I would have been even harsher than over
31:53
here on the podcast. I've had to hold back a bit on
31:55
the podcast because, you know, I don't want to sound like I'm
31:58
scolding you. So I really would have loved to
32:00
have this conversation one-on-one.
32:02
But the whole point of sharing this with you is how you can
32:06
make your outreach much more effective and how you don't come
32:09
across sounding lopsided in the future.
32:13
So thank you very much for your time and attention.
32:15
Cool guy 587 continue. Also, there's any way I can help
32:19
out in the future. You know, reach out to me and
32:22
yeah, you have my phone number already.
32:24
So and you know, we've already started the relationship, we
32:27
already started chatting, so no Ala.
32:30
So yeah, that's it. You guys enjoy the rest of your
32:34
day and have a wonderful work week ahead, wherever you are.