Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / Highly Sensitive Women Do Not Dislike Sex!
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- 0:05Hi everybody and welcome to the Doctor Psych Mom Show.
- 0:08Today we're going to be addressing a myth.
- 0:12That highly sensitive people don't like sex.
- 0:15Nothing could be further from the truth, and I will get into
- 0:17that as soon as I tell you to subscribe.
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- 0:41you should definitely do that. OK, so in my Facebook group at
- 0:45some point somebody said something about highly sensitive
- 0:48women not liking sex. Now that is not true at all.
- 0:52And if there is anything that I said to indicate that, I think
- 0:55that I do not think that my first podcast episode ever was
- 1:00about. Ten ways to make Your Highly
- 1:03Sensitive Woman want Sex a lot more Wife wants sex a lot more.
- 1:07This is because of a key issue. If you are bad at sex, then
- 1:12you're highly sensitive wife is going to feel worse about it
- 1:16than the average person. Also, if you are better at sex,
- 1:19she's going to like it more than the average person.
- 1:21So what do I mean? Well, OK, first of all, there's
- 1:25obviously no good or bad at sex. I mean.
- 1:29There's probably good and bad at sex, but you you know what I
- 1:32mean? Like there's sex is is very
- 1:35unique and subjective and some people could think a guy's good
- 1:38or a woman's good and some people think that same person is
- 1:41bad. But what I meant more is highly
- 1:43sensitive people are. Highly sensitive.
- 1:46That means that they don't hate sensation.
- 1:49They love sensation, but it has to be what they consider the
- 1:51right sensation. So they're very picky.
- 1:54They're very picky. They're more picky than the
- 1:56average person. So if you are somebody with like
- 2:00a sexual erotic blueprint and you just like penetration, and
- 2:04it has to be like very quick with no foreplay, then the
- 2:07highly sensitive person is probably not going to be the
- 2:09person for you because too much sensation overwhelms them and
- 2:14without adequate. Build up.
- 2:15That's going to be overwhelming, you know, and that's going to be
- 2:18painful. So for highly sensitive people,
- 2:22a sense that they don't like like a sensory experience that
- 2:24they don't like, turns into pain quicker than for the average
- 2:28person. That's actually one of the
- 2:29highly sensitive person quiz items is are you very sensitive
- 2:33to pain? So it can turn very painful.
- 2:36So a highly sensitive woman if you grab her boobs out of
- 2:39nowhere may Yelp and say ow you know, whereas non highly
- 2:44sensitive woman will just be like ugh, like kind of go away
- 2:47but they won't feel that same like jerk of pain, you know.
- 2:51So but on the other side somebody who can feel a lot can
- 2:56feel a lot. So obviously that could be a
- 2:59really good thing because they feel.
- 3:03More, I mean, that's like the definition of a highly sensitive
- 3:06person isn't like a highly irritable person.
- 3:09If what you think of as a highly sensitive person is a woman who
- 3:13keeps saying go away, go away, I need to be alone in a room to
- 3:16decompress, That's probably a depressed person.
- 3:19Or an anxious person, A highly sensitive person, yeah,
- 3:22sometimes they need to decompress or get time away, but
- 3:25they're also happy. Like being a highly sensitive
- 3:28person doesn't mean you're depressed.
- 3:29Being a highly sensitive person does not mean that you're
- 3:31anxious it. It means that if something
- 3:34happens to you, you become more depressed or anxious than a non
- 3:38highly sensitive person. So the way, for example, that
- 3:41borderline personality disorder happens is you get a sensitive
- 3:44kid in a very invalidating, abusive or neglectful home and
- 3:49so that. That sensitive temperament
- 3:50coupled with the abuse or neglect leads to higher rates of
- 3:53borderline personality. Then if a non highly sensitive
- 3:56kid is in that same home. So they are not as resilient in
- 4:00certain ways, you know, so if something bad happens, so they
- 4:04may feel grief for longer. I'm not saying they're not
- 4:07resilient ever, like they don't bounce back, of course they do,
- 4:10but they just have a longer timeline on bouncing back
- 4:13because they feel more deeply. They're like having, they're
- 4:16like people who have one less layer of skin, so.
- 4:19So a lot of men's predominant, not predominant primary.
- 4:24That's also not the right word. There's some word with a Pi
- 4:29Don't fucking know. Many men's best sexual
- 4:32experience is with highly sensitive women, right?
- 4:35Because a many men's best sexual experience was with women with
- 4:39borderline personality. That's like actually a thing.
- 4:42But because. And you want to know why?
- 4:45I mean, what the hell I'm here, right?
- 4:46Why don't I tell you? So the reason that.
- 4:49With borderline personality or tend to be thought of as so good
- 4:52and bad is they are very good at knowing what somebody wants, and
- 4:56they're highly sensitive people. So it's kind of like my article
- 5:00about people who are really good at giving gifts or getting
- 5:05hints. Like people that are really good
- 5:07at giving and receiving hints get very mad at people who are
- 5:10not good at understanding hints. And I talked about how the
- 5:15people who are good at understanding hints are the
- 5:18people who. Had to listen to the footfall of
- 5:20their their parents on the stairs to know if it's going to
- 5:24be a good day or a bad day. Is dad drunk or not?
- 5:26Is mom going to yell at us or not?
- 5:28So if you grew up in a dysfunctional family where you
- 5:30have to be constantly hyper vigilant to your parents
- 5:33expressions and tones because you have to figure out if it's
- 5:37going to be a good day or a bad day, then you turn into somebody
- 5:40who understands that you know, like every facial expression on
- 5:45a man in bed and what that means that he likes or doesn't like,
- 5:48so you can become. The ultimate sexual partner, you
- 5:51know, And that's not necessarily a good thing for that woman with
- 5:54borderline personality, but it could be a good thing for the
- 5:57partner in the short term. So it is in fact accurate that
- 6:01people who become hyper vigilant for their parents, dysfunction
- 6:05and potential abuse and potential yelling and drunk and
- 6:09screaming and hysteria and whatever, those people are good
- 6:13at reading people, they really are.
- 6:15And what's a very good thing? That reading people can help
- 6:17with sexual performance. Because you know exactly what
- 6:20they want. And so that is, if you've ever
- 6:23wanted to know why, quote crazy UN quote people are so good in
- 6:27bed. It's because that same thing
- 6:30that you're calling crazy is likely symptomatic of
- 6:33personality disorder with its etiology and a dysfunctional
- 6:37family where the person had to learn how to basically predict
- 6:41the future from small observations in their caregivers
- 6:45of their caregivers. So, you know, kind of really a
- 6:49buzzkill there when you go back and you think about your various
- 6:52experiences to think where they may have been situated and and
- 6:56how they could have originated. But on the positive, you know,
- 6:59not everybody is going to be somebody with borderline
- 7:01personality, right? Because those rates are
- 7:03extremely low. Just as I always say with
- 7:05narcissism, rates of actual narcissistic personality
- 7:08disorder are very low. So it's, you know, on trend to
- 7:11call everybody and their mother a narcissist, but it's not
- 7:14accurate and even lower rates. For borderline personality, I
- 7:18believe, or at least commensurate.
- 7:20So the the point here is, is that a highly sensitive person
- 7:23can be an excellent sexual partner because they're very,
- 7:26very sensitive. They're very observant, they're
- 7:29very perceptive, and they understand then what you feel.
- 7:33They're very good at empathizing, so they can really
- 7:36get into your mind and figure out what you like and what you
- 7:38don't like. But the other point is that
- 7:42they're going to be very responsive to you not being that
- 7:45way. So if you are not particularly
- 7:48perceptive and observant about what they like and what they
- 7:50don't like, then they may get very frustrated.
- 7:53So people can have wonderful sexual experiences with highly
- 7:56sensitive people in the honeymoon stage when the highly
- 7:58sensitive person is the one that's kind of carrying the sex
- 8:01life, and they are the one who's figuring out what you like and
- 8:04what you don't like in any given moment and looking and assessing
- 8:08at how you're responding. But when they go into the
- 8:11disillusionment stage and they don't feel like doing that
- 8:13anymore, then often the sex life goes to shit because it's all
- 8:16riding on you and that you have disappointed that.
- 8:20So I'm talking about the more typical pairing of a highly
- 8:22sensitive person with a non highly sensitive person.
- 8:25And of course as we've discussed at Infinitum, then the highly
- 8:29sensitive person in the Disillusionments frequently gets
- 8:32disappointed in the non highly sensitive person thinks that
- 8:34they're not deep enough that they don't have any inner world.
- 8:38And I call this pairing. The annoyingly satisfied husband
- 8:43and the wife who wants more couples you meet in counseling
- 8:46#4. I have a podcast, I have a post,
- 8:49and that is the post that people reach out the most to get
- 8:53therapy because of. They'll say, Oh my God, that's
- 8:56just like me and my spouse and I didn't know anybody else was
- 9:00like us. And meanwhile so many people are
- 9:02It's basically a highly sensitive woman partnered with a
- 9:04highly not sensitive man, and she used to be very, very on
- 9:10top. Of kind of keeping both the sex
- 9:12life and the romantic life and every part of the life moving
- 9:17and aware of what he wanted and needed at any given moment.
- 9:21And then at some point she was like, hold up, nobody's doing
- 9:25this for me. And it's not like he didn't want
- 9:27to do it for her. He just, like, isn't able to do
- 9:29it for her because he's not a highly sensitive person.
- 9:31So if they're in bed and she looks off into the distance, he
- 9:35doesn't think, oh, she's bored, I'll try something else in the
- 9:38way that she would think it if it happened on his end.
- 9:41Instead, he's like in his own world, he's just kind of he's,
- 9:45he's not like observing everything like under a
- 9:48Searchlight, like the way that she does.
- 9:50So then she ends up thinking that he's like not sensitive
- 9:52enough and he's not responsive enough and possibly he's even
- 9:56purposefully ignoring her needs, which isn't true and generally
- 10:01isn't true. And then, you know, everything
- 10:04devolves from there. So if you have a highly
- 10:08sensitive wife, I mean obviously my very first podcast and I have
- 10:11a post about. It is about 10 ways to make your
- 10:13highly sensitive wife want sex a lot more, and a lot of them are
- 10:16based on making the sensual environment a lot better.
- 10:20So making it warmer in the house, letting her be under the
- 10:23covers, turning the light off to a lot of foreplay, stroking
- 10:27gently, not doing anything that hurts before or is intense
- 10:31before she's aroused. So the same highly sensitive
- 10:34woman that seems like she's like a prude at the beginning could
- 10:38be like, you know your best sexual experience ever once she
- 10:41gets. Warmed up.
- 10:42But a lot of guys don't understand the level of warm up
- 10:45that's needed because a lot of guys think foreplay is 5 minutes
- 10:49of like, going down on you. And as I discussed in the oral
- 10:53Sex on Women podcast that you want to subscribe to, listen to,
- 10:56don't go down on a woman as foreplay.
- 10:58I mean, I just have to say that frequently so that everybody
- 11:01understands going down on a woman is not foreplay,
- 11:03especially not with a highly sensitive woman because you're
- 11:06touching her genital. She needs a lot of foreplay
- 11:08before that. That's a main sexual event.
- 11:11That is what we're building up to.
- 11:12And then intercourse can come after that or or however you do
- 11:15it. But the point is that highly
- 11:17sensitive women do not not like sex.
- 11:20That isn't a thing, like that isn't reality.
- 11:23But they are much more sensitive to bad sex, what they consider
- 11:28bad sex which is frequently somebody not paying enough
- 11:31attention. So.
- 11:32So when somebody goes into their own world, when they're just
- 11:35doing the porn montage, when they're going from this to this
- 11:37to this to this and not like checking back like.
- 11:41With the woman, and I never mean the checking back.
- 11:43Like, are you OK? Are you OK?
- 11:45Do you like this? Are you OK?
- 11:46Are you OK? Are you OK?
- 11:48Never do that like so many guys do.
- 11:49That The interrogation, the midstream and interrogative
- 11:54don't do that. Women hate that.
- 11:56If she's not OK, she'll tell you.
- 11:57But I mean, the other thing is to just kind of stay attuned
- 12:01more and understand that if you pay more attention to this
- 12:06woman, then she could deliver like a very intense sexual.
- 12:11Experience and and have one herself she's not just a
- 12:13delivery vehicle and it it could be far above you know what what
- 12:19you imagine her her potential is because you may not have been
- 12:23taking the time to really realize that she needs like all
- 12:27of this. You know mental which is like
- 12:30the talking and the being close and the compliments and all that
- 12:34that's mental foreplay and then physical foreplay and if you
- 12:38rush through either of those and with a highly.
- 12:41Person. They're definitely going to look
- 12:42like somebody. They're going to approximate
- 12:45somebody who hates sex. But that isn't, that isn't real,
- 12:48you know. And it's also why things are so
- 12:52different in the honeymoon stage, even more so for highly
- 12:55sensitive women, because they were so sensitive to those in
- 12:58love hormones. They're sensitive to everything,
- 13:01you know, so they they were so drunk on those new love hormones
- 13:05more than, not highly sensitive people even much more because
- 13:09they feel everything more. And so they were so in love with
- 13:13you that it was like life changing, a transformational
- 13:16They probably were in tears about how much they were in love
- 13:19with you. And then when that goes away,
- 13:23it's an even bigger, you know, descent, you know, back to
- 13:27normal. And so if they don't have any
- 13:29education about honeymoon stage and what that is, then they may
- 13:33blame it on you. You know that you must have done
- 13:35something insensitive and what the fuck you doing sensitive
- 13:37shit all the time. So it's not like they they don't
- 13:39have anything to to call. Fall on as an example.
- 13:42They certainly do, but it's not really that.
- 13:45It's because they're so highly sensitive that in the beginning
- 13:48they were this like huge engine and motivator and feeler.
- 13:52They were like the whole feeling system of the relationship.
- 13:56And then when they go into disillusionment stage, it could
- 13:58be a a massive change, even more so than for not highly sensitive
- 14:02people. So I hope that you leave this
- 14:04not disillusioned, but wanting to explore the full vast
- 14:08potential of your highly sensitive partner because.
- 14:11Because they can be the best sexual partners, because they're
- 14:14so perceptive and because they're so observant, and
- 14:17because they feel so much. You want somebody that feels a
- 14:20lot, right? I mean, you don't want somebody
- 14:23who feels nothing. So you definitely want somebody
- 14:25who feels a lot. But you got to be careful with
- 14:27what you have. There's obviously, as with
- 14:29everything, say it with me. There's no free lunch.
- 14:35Alright guys, hope you found this useful and I'll talk to
- 14:37y'all soon. Bye.
- 14:37Bye.