Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / How to Talk to Your Team One-on-One to Get Work Done
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- 0:00Hello and welcome. Today I just want to make a
- 0:03brief note to discuss something that I find quite troubling in
- 0:08the Nigerian business scene. You know, you have business
- 0:12owners, you have sales managers, you have founders, you have
- 0:16entrepreneurs, you have CE OS talking to members of their team
- 0:20and trying to do lots of management by WhatsApp.
- 0:24Now, I understand the temptation that you know WhatsApp is there,
- 0:26it's already available. So if there's a problem, you
- 0:28just file off a quick message what the problem is.
- 0:32In doing that, people are not using WhatsApp as effectively as
- 0:37it should be. Well, First off, WhatsApp is a
- 0:40messaging tool, not a management tool.
- 0:45I repeat, WhatsApp is a messaging tool, not a management
- 0:50tool. If you're going to manage people
- 0:55as a founder, as a business owner, as a CEO, or as a
- 0:58whatever, your primary skill is going to be in being able to
- 1:05have difficult conversations. And the more direct you can have
- 1:11those conversations, the better. If you're going to use tools
- 1:16like WhatsApp in a general messaging platform.
- 1:20And let's say a project is behind and you just send a
- 1:24message blasting everybody saying so, so, so, so project is
- 1:27behind. Why is all this thing happening?
- 1:30You people, we need to move now. We need to move now.
- 1:34What you need to understand as a business owner and as the CEO,
- 1:37as the founder is this, you blast that message out to the
- 1:41WhatsApp group. You have the emotional
- 1:44satisfaction that you have put out a message and that everybody
- 1:47should know how disappointed you are.
- 1:50But this is what really happens on ground because people are
- 1:53used to seeing you rant on WhatsApp, the truth of messages.
- 1:56Your sales team, they're not reading that message.
- 2:00They have other priorities on their mind right now.
- 2:02And quite frankly, they can't be bothered about whether today or
- 2:06guy is venting or tomorrow Madam is having a fit.
- 2:09You know they can't be bothered, but you feel as if you put that
- 2:13message out into the group. What's happening?
- 2:15We're behind our social so and so project.
- 2:18This is irresponsible. If you don't want to work, you
- 2:21all should resign and leave the company.
- 2:23There's only people who are serious that should be here.
- 2:25So you put all that rubbish out into the WhatsApp group and you
- 2:29think you're making progress, but meanwhile nothing they
- 2:32happen. So as a manager or as a business
- 2:37owner, as a founder, as a CEO, as the executive, as the
- 2:40whatever, this is what you need to do.
- 2:43If a project is behind, call the person that you think is
- 2:48responsible. Or if you're going to send a
- 2:50WhatsApp message, slide into the DM of the person in WhatsApp and
- 2:54send a message directly to the person who you think is
- 2:57responsible and call out whatever you think the
- 3:00insufficiencies are in the message.
- 3:03Then have a very particular discussion about what you need
- 3:06to do to bring the project back on track.
- 3:10Then in that private message, direct message, I agree on what
- 3:16the next steps are and what you're going to do to hold that
- 3:19person accountable. So I don't prefer you do all
- 3:22this over WhatsApp, but if you must do this over WhatsApp, this
- 3:25is the way. Rather than taking a WhatsApp
- 3:28tool or another general messaging tool like what's it
- 3:33called? Rocket?
- 3:33Is it Rocket Cast this messaging thing.
- 3:36So whether using Rocket, is it Rocket Chat or WhatsApp or
- 3:44Telegram or some group e-mail or something like that and you just
- 3:48start ranting into the chat. We're behind on so, so, so and
- 3:51so project what is going on? We need action, please.
- 3:56We need closes this week. We need movement.
- 3:58We need movement time is going no reach out to somebody in
- 4:04particular who's responsible for something.
- 4:08Then have the difficult conversation about why the
- 4:10project is not moving. Both of you agree collectively
- 4:14on what it is that people are going to do next.
- 4:17Then come up with measures for how you're going to hold that
- 4:19person accountable. That is what you're supposed to
- 4:21do. So this is what I would
- 4:24recommend, particularly if you're a business owner,
- 4:27founder, sales team, you know, sales leader, chief marketing
- 4:33officer, chief revenue officer, you know, whatever your title
- 4:36is, listening to this podcast right now, this is what I'm
- 4:39going to recommend. If you notice that you are
- 4:42behind on XYZ project, instead of ranting into the group, pick
- 4:46up the phone or walk into the office.
- 4:50If you overwork physically in the same space, walk into the
- 4:54office and have this conversation face to face.
- 4:57This is about making progress and achieving results.
- 5:00It is not about having the emotional satisfaction or firing
- 5:03off angry messages into the group.
- 5:08So walk over to the office and he said, Culli, how you there?
- 5:13Culli will say, I, Sir, I did. Your boys are loyal.
- 5:16You say, Culli, I beg, there's something I want to discuss with
- 5:18you. Then Culli will say, ah, boss, I
- 5:21beg, oh, there's no problem. And you will now say, of course,
- 5:24now problem D, we've been discussing this thing for the
- 5:27last four weeks. I thought you're responsible for
- 5:29so, so, so and so. But I'm not seeing any movement
- 5:32waiting to happen. What's going on then Kule will
- 5:35now respond for you. People having a back and forth.
- 5:39You will now be able to know what the issues are.
- 5:41If is that Kule is lacking, you'll be able to chat Kule or
- 5:46scold him directly in a way that allows him not to avoid
- 5:52responsibility for his own roles.
- 5:54Because if you put this angry message on WhatsApp, Kule can't
- 5:58ignore the WhatsApp message. And I have told you, I am a
- 6:02sales coach and a business development consultant.
- 6:04I work with boys on the ground, boys and girls on the ground,
- 6:07The boys and girls on the ground, they feel like they have
- 6:10other priorities. So if Olga, the perambulator
- 6:14anyhow, on the WhatsApp group, they will ignore the message and
- 6:16go about that what they think is important for the day.
- 6:20You or guy will feel as if you've done something, you've
- 6:22done nothing. Everybody ignore that message.
- 6:25Every frigging person in your team, ignore that message.
- 6:30You will now feel as if you've done something to get this thing
- 6:33back on track. Go into the office and have this
- 6:35conversation. Clearly then, if it is because
- 6:39rules were not clear, things are not properly assigned, things
- 6:42like that. Have that conversation with
- 6:45Coolie Coolie, This is what we're going to do to bring this
- 6:48thing back on track. I expect you to do XYZ and ABC
- 6:52before Friday 14th of October, blah blah, blah, blah blah, so
- 6:56we can move this thing on track. Cool.
- 6:59You say yes Sir. You say hey cool.
- 7:01It's not a matter of yes, Sir, we're talking now.
- 7:03You're not writing anything down.
- 7:04Write this thing down or put this thing in your diary.
- 7:07Do it now. Let me see it then.
- 7:10Both of you now agree. OK, cool.
- 7:12Since I expect this action to be taken before October 14th, blah
- 7:16blah blah, blah, blah. I'm expecting a progress report
- 7:20on October 10th to see how ready we are for the 14th and if all
- 7:24goes well on the 14th, I want us to have a general meeting with
- 7:28so, so, so and so team on October 18th so that we can
- 7:31review next steps. Are we clear, Cooley?
- 7:35Cooley would say yes, Sir. Again, you stress.
- 7:39Cool. This one will be yes Sir.
- 7:40Yes, Sir. You're not writing anything
- 7:42down. Put this thing down in the
- 7:43diary, Put this thing down in Google Calendar, blah, blah,
- 7:45blah. Cooley, I'm holding you
- 7:47responsible. Are we good to say?
- 7:49Yes, Sir. No problem.
- 7:51So. And as you're leading, as you're
- 7:53leaving, you know, small jokes they couldn't know.
- 7:55They tell me your boys are lawyer.
- 7:56Meanwhile, you know, they work. You know they work.
- 7:58Cool. I beg more now.
- 8:01Shake body more. You should be moving.
- 8:03Be moving. You know, Then you laugh about
- 8:06it and everything. Then you leave.
- 8:07That is a much more productive way to handle these sorts of
- 8:10things. Business owners, sales managers,
- 8:14Chief revenue officer. Chief financial officer.
- 8:17Chief. This officer, chief executive
- 8:20Officer, all of you who are trying to do management by
- 8:22WhatsApp, stop it. I don't know where this habit,
- 8:26how this habit has entered Nigeria, but honestly speaking,
- 8:30it's ineffective, It's not working and the only person who
- 8:33is satisfied by management by WhatsApp is you, the old guy who
- 8:38is sending this message. You're the only person who is
- 8:40achieving the emotional release. Trust me, all your boys and
- 8:44girls, they are ignoring that message.
- 8:46They say OK, you don't start again.
- 8:47You don't start again. You never see him.
- 8:49Except I beg. I beg.
- 8:50I have nothing else to do. I'm chasing Chief, this person.
- 8:53I'm chasing Madame, blah, blah, blah and making their rants,
- 8:55making their rant. They're ignoring you.
- 8:59It's not working. Now, if the face to face thing
- 9:01is not possible, pick up the phone and the process is the
- 9:04same. Cami, good morning.
- 9:06How are you doing? I'm very well.
- 9:07Sir. Are you coming into the office
- 9:09today or? No, Sir, today is the day that I
- 9:10work from home. OK, No problem.
- 9:12I have some important things that I want to discuss with you.
- 9:14Do you have a moment to talk now?
- 9:17Oh, say yes Sir, I'm free. OK, good.
- 9:19Cammy, I need updates on XYZ project.
- 9:25What is going on? The last time we spoke, I had
- 9:27assumed that we would have done this dot dot dot dot Cammy.
- 9:30How come this thing has not been done?
- 9:33Then you keep quiet and you hear what Cammy has to say.
- 9:36You will have the conversation. It is possible that Cammy has
- 9:40been slacking off. No problem.
- 9:42You will now give Cami clear directions on what it is that
- 9:46needs to be done next, when you want the thing done by and you
- 9:49both agree on what the timelines or the yardsticks, the
- 9:53milestones, the things you will need to hit by certain times as
- 9:57you're talking, you will tell Cami, Cami, I hope you're noting
- 10:00these things down. And in fact, when we're done,
- 10:02I'm sending you an e-mail with a list of all these dates so that
- 10:05you know, we can I can hold you to it.
- 10:07Then sometimes it will be possible that the reason why
- 10:10action was not taken was because Kemi thought it was somebody
- 10:12else's responsibility. You will now say, oh, no, Kemi,
- 10:16yes, it should be coolest responsibility.
- 10:18But Kemi, you are the head of the team.
- 10:20So ultimately, I'm holding you responsible for all this.
- 10:23And this is what we're going to do to get this project back on
- 10:25schedule. You will have the conversation
- 10:28over the phone directly with her in a manner that is respectful,
- 10:33assertive and does not allow her to evade responsibility.
- 10:38Because if you go and blast all these thing in the WhatsApp
- 10:41group, somebody will just say come in or get on the OR get on
- 10:45the complaint again, came and say what is it now?
- 10:47So you know or Ghana, you know as it will be.
- 10:49Then can we open the message, maybe see the first two or three
- 10:52lines? Should we close it and go and do
- 10:54other things else other things? You will feel as if I have done
- 10:59something meanwhile you have done nothing.
- 11:02Everybody is ignoring you in the WhatsApp chat, in the group
- 11:06chat, in the Rocket chat, in the Telegram chat, in the group.
- 11:11In fact, is even worse. If his group e-mail, if at least
- 11:14if his chat, at least people see the first two or three lines.
- 11:16If his group e-mail, forget it. Nobody even clicked on that
- 11:19e-mail. Nobody.
- 11:20We think we'll just sit down there for days now, get buried
- 11:25by other things. Business owners, sales managers,
- 11:33CEO, OGA found founder, team lead.
- 11:38Madam CMO, you should stop this bad habit.
- 11:43It's part of your job to learn how to have difficult
- 11:45conversations. Difficult conversations are had
- 11:48in a respectful manner, are had in an assertive manner.
- 11:52And you have these conversations one-on-one.
- 11:56You go and meet the person direct.
- 11:58Don't evade nothing. That is why you're the ogre.
- 12:01That is why you are the boss. That is why you are the senior.
- 12:04Go direct. Why you they fear why you are
- 12:08afraid. Go and have a conversation with
- 12:11somebody instead of blasting all kinds of messages into the water
- 12:14group. See, sorry that venting about
- 12:17this in this morning. It's just that, you know, like I
- 12:19said, you know, work with boys and girls on the field.
- 12:22And I've just noticed that it's it's a trend I'm noticing.
- 12:26I'm an outsider. I'm a consultant.
- 12:27No problem. You will have given me access to
- 12:29the inner platforms, to the inner chatting to the inner
- 12:32every, every. And yes, they'll be challenges
- 12:35with projects, but I've noticed that orgasm nowadays they have
- 12:40they prefer the the comfort or do whatever.
- 12:43I'm just ranting in these messages instead of calling
- 12:46somebody who's your direct report, have a very direct and
- 12:49frank conversation before WhatsApp, before group office
- 12:55e-mail chats and everything existed at least in Nigeria.
- 13:00If it was a problem, what would your guy do?
- 13:03Your guy would have sent the secretary to go and say go and
- 13:06call Mr. Tavishima, tell him to come and see me in the office
- 13:09and the conversation would have been had.
- 13:12Or you would have issued a query and call a panel or, But either
- 13:16we sure something would have been done objectively in real
- 13:21life in a manner that is direct and assertive in a manner that
- 13:27the person who is concerned cannot evade responsibility and
- 13:33clear consequences or clear course of action for next time
- 13:38would have been agreed upon. And I'm sorry that I've been
- 13:41writing for 30 minutes, but I'm just trying to prove a point
- 13:45that if you've been guilty of this sort of behavior, stop it.
- 13:51It's not effective. It's not helping you move your
- 13:54business forward at all. It's giving you emotional
- 13:57closure that you blasted people, but honestly, it's not moving
- 14:00your business forward. Go and learn.
- 14:04Learn how to start having these difficult conversations.
- 14:08Learn how to start having assertive, direct conversations
- 14:13with your subordinates, with your people who work under you,
- 14:19with your peers, with your colleagues.
- 14:20Learn how to have these direct conversations.
- 14:23Venting into the group e-mail, venting into the group Telegram,
- 14:28venting into the group WhatsApp is not doing anything to move
- 14:32your business forward. Believe me, it is not doing
- 14:35absolutely anything. I'm not a lecturer, I'm not an
- 14:40academic. I'm out in the field and for
- 14:44people, OK, well, you have not had me to come and work in your
- 14:48company, obviously, But for other people who have hired me,
- 14:51I'm seeing the effects live. I'm on the ground, I'm seeing
- 14:56you rant and I'm watching your team ignore your ranting.
- 15:03Worst of all, I am the one who is now having to go in to start
- 15:06having these frank conversations with people to say how far with
- 15:09this, how far with this? The problem is I'm just a
- 15:13consultant. Eventually my money will expire.
- 15:17You pay me for one month and one more.
- 15:19Don't reach if you don't learn how to do this thing yourself.
- 15:23As a business owner, when I leave, what will happen?
- 15:27Back to square one for whatever. Sorry.
- 15:30Now for how do you say it again? One step forward, 2 step back.
- 15:34So please mowing and land, if you do bring me into your
- 15:37company, I'll do my best to make sure that you orga because it's
- 15:41not just the boys and the girls who need training.
- 15:43Even you Orga founder but I'm CMO but I'm Chief revenue
- 15:49officer even you self use on training.
- 15:52I'll do my best to tell you that look you know bro or look Madam,
- 15:57I think what you do on WhatsApp, you know, you know pure pick up
- 16:00the phone call. So so and so and this is the
- 16:02reason why. But please management by
- 16:04WhatsApp, I beg let us stop it. Nigerian business owners,
- 16:09Nigerian managers, I don't know where this culture came from,
- 16:12but let's stop this thing. Management by WhatsApp is not
- 16:15helping your business, is not helping your carrier.
- 16:19It's not doing, it's not, it's not moving the needle forward.
- 16:23So that's it. If you'd love to connect with
- 16:25me, call me, send me a text message or WhatsApp message on
- 16:2808064662140. If you want me to audit your
- 16:33sales processes or look at any of your business process
- 16:36processes, just call me, send me a text message or WhatsApp
- 16:39message on 0806466 2140. If you'd like to be a part of my
- 16:45WhatsApp channel, maybe because you're shy, you just don't want
- 16:47to talk, you want to be receiving updates, it's not a
- 16:49problem. Just get in touch with me on the
- 16:51same number and I'll hook you up.
- 16:53So thank you very much for your time and attention.
- 16:55I'll catch you all some other time.