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[Ep 11] The Real Reason You Can’t Lose Weight | JJ Virgin · Age Defiantly with Mark Young

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  Welcome to Performance Driven Living, the podcast where we question everything.
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  We don't tip to around tough topics, we walk right into them, not to provoke, but to
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  get closer to what's real.
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  something deeper.
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  Talk to your doctor before making changes to your health or lifestyle.
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  Take what lands, leave what doesn't, but whatever you do, don't stop questioning.
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  We are here on the Performance Driven Living podcast, and I could not be happier to introduce
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  you to my friend, J.J. Virgin.
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  Now, J.J., I always say this, that when they put all my notes here together, they put
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  down the most beautiful introductions of somebody, so don't be offended.
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  I knew it, nor it.
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  Read this.
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  No, but this I read, because I could never say the things in the ways that they do.
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  All right, let's hear.
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  I'm going to read this.
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  They've said, today's guest is a household name in health information, J.J. Virgin.
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  She is a four times New York Times best-selling author, celebrity nutrition and fitness
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  expert, and the founder of Reignite Wellness, J.J.'s dedicated her life to helping people
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  lose weight, regain energy, and thrive, and she does it all with science, strategy, and
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  soul.
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  Wow.
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  I know, right?
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  They write these intros.
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  Like, literally, like the first couple of times, they write it, or did chat GPT write
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  it?
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  It's probably a combination.
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  They're guessing that there's a combination there, but it's like, there's enough information
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  about you on the internet, the chat GPT could get a good, good grief.
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  Got the soul in there.
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  That's interesting.
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  Can soul, right?
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  Do you use that word?
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  Never.
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  Oh, well, maybe this is a new thing.
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  There you go, though.
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  Well, J.J., I think I'm so thrilled to have you here, and thank you so much, and I
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  know we actually recently met, which is kind of funny.
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  Yeah.
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  I absolutely love that, and we've had a few chats back and forth on that.
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  But having you here today is amazing, and our format here, I'm just going to tell
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  you, like, the goal of our podcast is literally that I just want to learn something.
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  Like, I just believe in being a better version of myself tomorrow than I was today.
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  And getting on this podcast is an opportunity for me to just get industry leaders and experts
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  together who can make me better.
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  And then, vicariously, other people get that exact same information, right?
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  And you are clearly a leader in your space, and I would say people refer to you, and I
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  don't know if you know this, but they call you like a female Dave Aspery.
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  Oh, he's the, he's them.
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  So the funniest part is Dave and I, you know, we go way back.
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  So Dave actually took his coffee.
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  This is the first time we brought it out to an event, to the Mindshare event.
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  And he was in the back making coffee, and he ran out, and everyone got upset.
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  This was like in the way, way back.
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  That's so fun.
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  And Dave and I decided we kind of, he walked my mom down the aisle, but Dave is actually
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  my mother in another life.
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  Which is hilarious.
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  So Dave is not the mother of biohacker, so he's the father of biohacking for everybody,
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  but you, that's so funny, but I'm not a biohacker.
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  So I don't know how I'm the, the female Dave and Dave, that's true, but like you're bent
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  towards health education.
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  I mean, it depends on how you think of biohacking.
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  You know, I look at and go, well, was I an original one or what is really the term of
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  it?
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  Well, a lot of the biohacking stuff when I go, I feel like a lot of people are majoring
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  in minors and missing the majors.
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  And I 100, can I get a man?
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  Yeah, you will.
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  Absolutely.
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  Get an amen on it, because you know, just now I was walking the floor downstairs a minute
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  ago, and we're here at the Dave Aspery Biohacking Conference.
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  So we got to give some credit to Dave here.
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  Oh, we love ourselves some Dave.
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  We love to.
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  Absolutely.
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  I love Dave.
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  So we were down, I did a lap around the floor when during a break time that we had
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  and Dave Korsonsky, you'll enjoy this.
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  You know, Dave, it heads up house.
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  And he's like, oh, we're doing some things here.
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  Grab a microphone, Mark, tell me like, what is two things?
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  You know, first of all, what is the most, what is the best biohack you're enjoying lately?
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  Sleep.
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  You know what?
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  I said, I said fasting.
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  And sleep is actually the one I normally get to people.
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  And he's just like, you know, what's the biohack you're enjoying most lately?
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  And I'm like, honestly, I'm going to go with fasting.
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  And he kind of looked at me, because I think he's probably waiting for it.
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  It's like calling a mortal.
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  It's this supplement and whatever.
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  I'm like, it's literally just fasting.
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  I'm like, in the good news, is it doesn't cost it?
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  Yeah.
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  In fact, I just saved $104,000 on the a mortal and it has said it's money, in fact.
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  And I'm like, no, because your body knows how to do what it knows how to do if you just
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  provide the right environments for it.
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  And I think biohackers, by and large, I hate the word biohacking, but I have to use it
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  because we're at Dave's conference right now.
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  The word biohacking, I think to some people, has a negative connotation because it's like,
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  it's this and this tack and this supplement.
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  I love the tack and I love the supplements and stuff.
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  But to your point, they're winning on the minors and losing on the mails.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Sleep.
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  Diet.
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  Exorcism.
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  So here's the funny thing.
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  New Year's Eve.
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  We were having a big birthday party for David Prometer.
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  It was the 70th birthday.
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  And so we're sitting out on this beautiful boat dock, black tie on a boat dock.
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  It's awesome.
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  I'm sitting next to this guy and he's telling me about how he went to Mark Hyman's event
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  and this.
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  And he went to the YPO blah, blah, blah, and all these things.
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  That's amazing.
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  That's so cool that you're doing all this longevity stuff.
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  What do you do for exercise?
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  Uh-huh.
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  Wait.
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  I'm like, wait.
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  He goes, well, a couple days ago, I did five minutes of yoga on the, and I'm like, all
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  right.
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  So.
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  Right.
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  So you're losing his muscle mass.
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  This means you're aging faster.
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  I even should.
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  But I'm glad you went to Mark's retreat.
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  That's great.
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  Yes.
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  And that's the stuff that kills me.
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  And it's like, and I laugh because like we're here at the Biohacking Conference and you'll
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  laugh at this because I'm a, I'm a crazy hit guy like I go to my hit gym every day.
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  Like that's part of my ritual.
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  But I'm also in the midst of a 75 hard right now.
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  I'm sure you're familiar with that.
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  And that's painful.
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  Like I hate it.
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  But it's like yesterday we wrapped up what we were doing here and I'm like, ah, there's
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  still a half hour hour on the floor and I'm like, no, I'm going to the gym.
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  Yeah.
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  Like there's a Barry's boot camp up the road here and I'm like, and I walk to the Barry's
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  boot camp to do a workout and then walk back in the rain, but walk back to the hotel before
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  doing anything.
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  I'm like, I'm not going to go run around the floor talking about Biohacking and looking
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  for new supplements.
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  Yeah.
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  If I'm not just taking care of the basics.
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  Exactly.
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  It is why literally like we got here at late last nights of all the weather.
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  Yeah.
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  But we have two.
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  I travel.
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  I've gone for two weeks.
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  I have two big suitcases and a carry on because I have my stuff with me, you know, and I
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  have workout stuff and a coffee maker and supplements.
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  I've got my katsu bands in the next room.
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  Yeah.
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  You got to have everything.
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  So I'm like, I am not going to be on the road and miss my sleep, miss my work.
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  No, I'm not going to do it.
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  Oh, no.
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  My katsu bands travel with me so that if I can't get in a work, I can at least get in
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  some blood restriction like I laugh because I have a my carry on.
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  I actually check because literally one half of my carry on is just bottles of supplements
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  and all this other kind of stuff.
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  Like, I'm not going to go, I often spend like two weeks away from home.
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  Like, I've got one suitcase per clothes.
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  Yeah.
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  No, there's your case.
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  Oh, I'm here.
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  Like, I had half of one suitcase was closed.
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  That's it.
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  The rest of it is all this stuff.
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  Absolutely.
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  Yeah.
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  And the truth about it is, is like, I'm not giving up on that kind of stuff just because
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  I'm on the road.
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  And what's funny is, you know, and I, this is probably not funny, but maybe it's funny.
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  And it's like, I was a person who struggled with my weight for most of my younger life.
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  And my life, let me say, I'm turning 50 in a couple of weeks and probably, and that's
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  the best.
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  That's the thing.
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  It's a me.
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  There's a little, I don't know if it's so much for guys as it is for women because I'm
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  not a guy.
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  So I don't know.
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  So, you know, but like when there's something happens at 50, where you're like, I really
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  don't care.
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  I love you don't.
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  I, 40, I did not love, I was, but I was going through really hard stuff at 40.
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  I loved 50.
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  I loved 60.
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  So, you know, like, well, I'm looking forward to fantastic, but 50 is partly because when
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  I tell people in 50, I love the reactions that I get from it because normally I'll be
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  like, I'm turning 50 and people was like, like, what?
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  And like, thank you.
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  That's all that matters.
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  I don't even care that you believe it.
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  I just want to know that you didn't guess it.
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  It's always you didn't guess it.
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  Something's going right.
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  His wild though, when you look at people and it starts at about 40, where all of a sudden,
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  you know, you remember in your 20s and 30s, like there were the people that were eating
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  crap and, you know, going out all night and you're doing all the good stuff, you know,
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  like, oh, why do you look so much better than me?
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  All of a sudden, the whole thing flips at 40 and those people now look at them like,
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  oh, wait a minute, you're at the same age as me and you literally look 10 to 15 years
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  older.
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  Oh, I, there is not a single.
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  I was talking with my dad about this the other day.
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  My dad is 68 and just sent a Guinness record for being the oldest rookie year race car driver
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  because like, and I, and I told him, I'm like, you are the reason I have no concept of
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  age because I actually was raised by my grandmother and my grandmother was old at 40.
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  Yeah, my mom was old.
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  I was adopted.
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  My, my adopted mom and dad were so old.
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  Yeah.
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  So young.
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  And well, and it's crazy.
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  And my mom died at 62 and I mean, psychologically believed that she was done and don't get me into
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  the whole psychoneural immunology conversation about speaking death over yourself and
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  yourself.
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  I was so true.
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  I mean, it's like it's no less than like when my son got hit and he was dead on the pavement,
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  we're like, oh, no, you're going to be 110 percent.
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  You are going to absolutely like the doctors like he's got a point zero, one, two, five percent
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  chance he'd make it.
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  We're like, cool, not zero, you know, like we're like, yeah, prove the doctors wrong.
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  It's like, you know, that's just thoughts create your perception of reality, like I completely
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  am on the you create your reality.
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  So if you think you're dying to succeed, you, that's why he's, you know, I think you're
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  like, these, you know, when you hear someone getting diagnosed with cancer and given
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  X amount of time to live in them, that's what they got, you know, 100 percent.
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  And I think it's like people live in that way.
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  And I've even found myself lately, like I'm just on this weird path right now.
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  I don't even know what's going on in my head anymore.
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  But I don't even know what happens if you feel like it's just happening.
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  But like this whole idea, like, you know, it's like I'm dead, like that's the funniest
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  thing I'm dead.
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  And I'm like, and I found myself not even being willing to use those words anymore.
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  Like I'm not even going to tell you you're killing me.
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  Like you say something really funny and I'm like, you're killing me.
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  And I'm like, I don't even want to use those words anymore.
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  Like I, I will find alternatives.
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  Like I will go to reactively say those things.
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  I'm like, no, I'm not saying those words.
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  It's, I think of a friend of mine who was always battling his weight.
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  Remember once we're somewhere and he goes, I am starving out of my mind.
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  I mean, you might want to watch your framing there as you create an hunger and starving
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  out of my mind.
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  And it is and it's and it's people create that.
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  And especially I'll say with the with the declaration, the identity statements,
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  the I am's, you know, not to go too far off on a rabbit trail.
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  But like the I am diabetic, I am this and I am that.
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  And I'm like, oh my gosh, can we can we knock that off because and I was on a podcast.
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  I was the guest on Luke's stories podcast.
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  Oh, yeah, I did, I did Luke's, did you?
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  Yes, I did.
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  This is Luke and I just throw man's down for a while like we had a great time.
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  And we got into this whole conversation.
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  I'm like, Luke, if I were to just right now shout duck.
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  And I'm like, let me walk you through just some of what's going on and like your pupils
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  die late.
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  You move into a sympathetic nervous system.
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  Now you they're thinking duck and I was thinking of a duck.
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  That's hilarious because people said that.
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  But if I were like duck, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  well, they're in a row.
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  I mean, if I were to scream duck or something like that, like you would immediately flinch,
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  I would tense your muscles, your pupils would die late, your digestive system would slow.
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  You'd go into a sympathetic nervous response, like, and I went through all this kind of
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  stuff.
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  And I'm like, that's the power of one word from me.
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  Like imagine the power that your words and like I created physiological changes in your
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  body from one word that I said.
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  Now imagine what your cells are dealing with every single day with the things that you're
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  saying to them.
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  And we speak to ourselves so harshly, but like I agree with you, like and I hate to say
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  it's the name and claimant kind of culture, but I choose to live in the world where anything
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  is possible because it doesn't cost any extra, right?
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  Like there's zero cost of admission to just believe that anything's possible.
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  I know.
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  What's going to happen like this?
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  You know, I remember with my son, they're like, oh, you know, I'll never make it.
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  I go, well, let's let's believe there's going to be 110% and prove it.
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  What's because if he fails and he gets to 90, we win, you know, whatever it is here,
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  we're going to win.
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  We're going to win this round 100%.
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  Yeah.
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  Do you mind sharing that story?
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  Because I don't know that I mean, a lot of people know that story, but that really is
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  the trigger that got you on your path to be honest with you know, there's been so many
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  trigger.
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  You know, everyone looks for that catalyst.
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  I'm like, what if there's like just lots of catalysts and I actually was thinking about
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  the other day.
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  Just twist all of it.
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  You know, like, like is anyone's road to success this road?
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  No.
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  I'm going to choose those backwards.
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  Yeah.
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  But I realized there was a common theme to all of it that I just figured out.
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  Of course, I'll probably figure out something else, even, you know, like from 12 lifetimes
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  ago.
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  But I was always the tallest kid in class, shocking.
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  Yeah.
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  And as a young girl, that sucks, right?
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  Yeah.
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  However, it was also the like kind of the protector of all my girlfriend's bully too.
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  But because I was the young, the tallest girl, I had to be on the boys' teams because
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  we didn't have enough boys.
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  So I was always on the boys' teams growing up.
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  And then when I went to high school, they had a really great gym for the boys, squat,
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  rack, bench press.
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  We did not have that in the girls, no girls gym, right?
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  And so I was like, I want to go over there with the high school football players in play
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  because that's what I was used to.
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  You were used to playing with the boys, yeah.
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  But what I realized is doing all of that, being on the boys' teams and being in the boys,
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  you know, weight room, I learned how to do hard things.
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  And if you believe that the way you do one thing is the way you do everything, and you
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  know that if you are doing hard things, you're training your, you know, you're making
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  new neurons, saying, I can do hard things.
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  It changes everything.
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  And so I really think that part of what happened when my son got hit, my son was, I don't
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  know, I like to say the victor of a hit and run, you know, as my ex hasn't says, you
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  know, grant one car zero, you know, but he was hit by a car.
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  We don't know really, it seems like maybe going 30, 40 miles an hour in neighbor saw the
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  woman get out of her car, gasp, see him on the ground and take off.
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  And so, you know, he was airlifted to the local hospital.
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  He had multiple brain bleeds.
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  He was in a deep coma, like the highest coma score.
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  He was 13 fractures, but the problem, the real challenge was that he had a thorny aura.
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  And that was what Princess Diana died of, and it was going to rupture.
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  And what Dr. basically told us when we got there was sometime in the next 24 hours, it
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  will rupture every hour, this is what he's saying, every hour, the chance it's going to
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  rupture increases by 10%.
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  All right.
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  All right.
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  Now, I was like, what your math doesn't work.
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  So we're looking at him and my son Bryce, who's literally getting his PhD in math right
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  now.
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  It's amazing.
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  It's looking at this doctor.
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  And, you know, I've taught my sons to be, you know, question authority respectfully,
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  but question it.
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  You're like, you know, question.
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  So Bryce is looking at this doctor who's saying this stupid stuff and he's like, huh,
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  so like maybe a point one, two, five percent chance he could make it in the doctor's
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  house.
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  Yes.
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  He goes, not zero.
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  I love that.
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  That's not zero.
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  What was the movie?
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  So you're saying there's a chance.
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  Yeah.
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  That's Jim Carrier.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So you're saying there's a chance.
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  And that was just it.
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  So we were like, and the other funny part was, was Grant's dad was a medical malpractice
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  trial attorney in his former life when he actually worked because when he met me, he decided
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  he didn't want to work anymore.
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  I was like, that's interesting.
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  That's right.
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  Okay.
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  Anyhow, so he just started using some verbiage to make the doctor actually do something.
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  So we overruled the doctor and got him airlifted to the next hospital.
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  And when he got airlift to this next hospital, he survived the airlift, which doctors say
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  wasn't going to do.
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  Then he survived the surgery.
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  We get to this hospital.
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  It's Harbor UCLA.
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  We walk in number two trauma center in the country.
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  And it is game on in there.
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  We walk in.
• 17:04
  There are five surgical teams in there.
• 17:06
  There's a doctor who got called at 2 a.m.
• 17:08
  He got a stint from flown in from somewhere that they've been using and they were no longer
• 17:13
  even available.
• 17:14
  He goes, I got it.
• 17:15
  It was supposed to be used for adults, but we'll ask for forgiveness.
• 17:18
  You know, I just, he was like, you know, going to do what he was going to do.
• 17:22
  How old was he?
• 17:23
  He said six.
• 17:24
  Grant was 16.
• 17:25
  Okay.
• 17:26
  And I remember the doctor said, listen, I do this all the time.
• 17:29
  Do not worry.
• 17:30
  I had someone thrown off an overpass last week and we fixed him up.
• 17:33
  It's easy.
• 17:34
  I'll come get you in a couple hours to tell you it's fine.
• 17:37
  I'm like, okay.
• 17:38
  Cool.
• 17:39
  I'm going to have a cup of coffee.
• 17:40
  I went up.
• 17:41
  I had a blog do for, you know, something I was doing.
• 17:45
  And I was like, I'll go get my stuff done.
• 17:47
  So the wild thing is so we're sitting up in this waiting room.
• 17:51
  I was going to call it a green room.
• 17:52
  It was not a green room.
• 17:53
  It was not his studio.
• 17:54
  I didn't tell a lot of TV back then.
• 17:56
  So I was sitting up there.
• 17:58
  And so we're sitting up there.
• 17:59
  And later on, like months later, Grant told me, he goes, you know, number when you and
• 18:04
  dad were sitting in the waiting room and dad was wearing that red shirt, like John had
• 18:10
  changed from the time, like, he didn't know what John, like he described where we were,
• 18:14
  what we're doing, how we're seeing.
• 18:16
  He was in a studio.
• 18:17
  He was like in the surgical suite.
• 18:18
  I'm like, okay.
• 18:19
  I mean, the stuff he told us after the fact would give you chills of what he knew.
• 18:26
  So they're almost out of body kind of.
• 18:28
  It's completely out of body experiences.
• 18:30
  Anyhow, the doctor comes in and goes, hey, all right, it's all fixed, it's all fine.
• 18:38
  You're good.
• 18:39
  Now, I don't know if I'll ever wake up.
• 18:41
  I'm the plumber.
• 18:42
  Great.
• 18:43
  Yeah.
• 18:44
  So we going to see him and I remember standing there because literally 13 fractures.
• 18:49
  He had two orthopedics teams working on him, broadening his femurs.
• 18:53
  He had a crushed heel that they had, like, stuck all these nails into and had hanging.
• 18:59
  I mean, it was just crazy.
• 19:00
  He had glass.
• 19:03
  Everything was covered except for a finger.
• 19:05
  He had broken arm, discolidated shoulder, so I've got the finger, holding the finger.
• 19:09
  And the machines are beeping and I say, grant your name means warrior.
• 19:16
  And you're going to be a hundred and ten percent.
• 19:17
  I'm like, blabbing away to him.
• 19:20
  And I feel a little squeeze and I'm like, hmm, you know, they said he was in coma.
• 19:25
  And so, you know, I said, grant, Bryce, you know, Bryce is cheering you on.
• 19:30
  That's his brother.
• 19:31
  He loves his brother.
• 19:32
  I feel squeeze.
• 19:33
  Then I said, your grandmother is like cheering you on.
• 19:36
  Nothing.
• 19:37
  But the grandma was kind of a negative nilly.
• 19:39
  So it's like, I hadn't actually called her yet because I knew that when I called her,
• 19:43
  she'd freak out.
• 19:44
  I was like, I'm not going to tell her.
• 19:45
  Anyway, then they said, your girlfriend, Mackenzie, and that's it.
• 19:48
  We started to try to pick my finger up off the bed.
• 19:50
  And that's when I was like, you are going to be a hundred and ten percent.
• 19:53
  This is going to be the best thing ever happened to you.
• 19:55
  Let's like, and just double it down.
• 19:57
  And we literally, you know, John Virgin was like, I'm giving you permission to prove every
• 20:02
  doctor wrong.
• 20:03
  Like, we just proceeded to go in there, like, seeing him holding this vision of him a hundred
• 20:07
  and ten percent, like, sneak and all sorts of stuff into the hospital.
• 20:11
  I had him on high dose fish oil, like I was doing progesterone cream.
• 20:15
  We were doing, like, Tibetan scrolls, holy water.
• 20:17
  Sort of like everybody's like, I got this.
• 20:19
  I'm like, send it on over.
• 20:20
  You know, we were doing essential oils.
• 20:22
  We had an acupuncture.
• 20:23
  It's coming in doing acupressure, like, you know, believe me, I would have, like, anything
• 20:28
  we needed to do.
• 20:29
  I'm like, whatever religion, let's go.
• 20:30
  Like, I'm, you know, agnostic.
• 20:32
  Let's go.
• 20:33
  So it was, it was interesting because I've watched the movies where people come out of
• 20:40
  coma's.
• 20:42
  And so I thought it was like that.
• 20:45
  They come out of the coma.
• 20:46
  They go, I love you.
• 20:47
  Right?
• 20:48
  This is not how people come out of coma, like, they're not.
• 20:51
  And so the doctor told me she goes, the doctor said, when he comes out of the coma, it
• 20:55
  will be ugly.
• 20:57
  And so I figured it was like, maybe he'd come out and scream or something.
• 21:00
  No, it was ugly for years.
• 21:05
  She didn't say it will be ugly for a moment, an hour, a day, a week, a month.
• 21:10
  She said, it'll be ugly.
• 21:11
  And it is ugly because basically their internal editor, their filter is shut down.
• 21:19
  Now that can be fun.
• 21:20
  It's like at one point, he was laughing hysterically.
• 21:23
  And it can be awful because you can get very angry.
• 21:27
  On bridal fear, too.
• 21:28
  Yeah.
• 21:29
  Yeah, it's all sorts of stuff.
• 21:30
  But when he first started coming out of it, he didn't say anything.
• 21:35
  He stared off into space and he moved the one arm that wasn't in a cast.
• 21:40
  And he did that for weeks.
• 21:41
  He just stared.
• 21:42
  And I'm like, oh, you know, the amount of mastery of your emotions that that requires
• 21:51
  to not freak out, because I thought he can feel, and turns out, he, Grant and I have a
• 21:57
  very telepathic, almost like the, I don't know if you listen to the telepathy tapes.
• 22:02
  If you don't know what you're talking about, if you listen to this, you have to listen
• 22:06
  to this.
• 22:07
  It's, first of all, you will never come out of it.
• 22:09
  You're going to be in there.
• 22:10
  So be prepared when you listen to this.
• 22:12
  Totally there.
• 22:13
  Yeah.
• 22:14
  It's incredible.
• 22:15
  But my son's a little bit on this spectrum.
• 22:17
  And I've always felt like he could, is so I'm going, he can feel anything.
• 22:21
  So I'm not coming in here unless I feel very, very, very like a solid empath.
• 22:26
  You know, I'm like, not going to let him feel any fear or anything else.
• 22:28
  Like, I'm coming in clean, clear.
• 22:31
  He's 110%.
• 22:32
  I'm not going to let him, like, worry or anything else.
• 22:34
  Like, don't do not worry.
• 22:35
  Gotcha.
• 22:36
  You know, I had Dr. Aim in coming.
• 22:38
  I also just be like, I'm bringing in troops there.
• 22:40
  They all came in, visited in people like, who are you?
• 22:43
  Oh, I'm just, you know, good mom for good mom, a few friends, but it was funny because
• 22:50
  I literally launched Virgin Diet bedside with him in a coma.
• 22:54
  And, you know, we have a New York Times bestselling author bedside with my son in a coma.
• 22:58
  They started, they were very cool at the hospital.
• 23:01
  They had a room for me to do interviews and because they started to watch everybody coming
• 23:05
  in at what was going on.
• 23:06
  They're like, oh, okay.
• 23:07
  That's amazing.
• 23:08
  That's amazing.
• 23:09
  It was incredible.
• 23:10
  But, you know, he started to come out of it and I was like, you know, I'm going to wake
• 23:13
  him up.
• 23:14
  So I did all sorts of stuff I brought in different things for him to smell and I brought
• 23:19
  him popsicles.
• 23:20
  I snuck in stuff.
• 23:21
  I was like, how do I wake up all of his senses?
• 23:24
  How do I just start to wake all this stuff up?
• 23:26
  And, you know, it took time, but it is crazy when someone comes out of a coma because he
• 23:34
  would say all sorts of stuff.
• 23:35
  I remember the nurse walking and he goes, you are.
• 23:37
  I love you.
• 23:38
  And I'm like, oh boy, you know, you're just like, oh, you know, I love that you're the
• 23:43
  mom who was actually doing the care while your son was in the hospital.
• 23:46
  I'm like, oh my gosh, it's so it was, it was pretty wild.
• 23:51
  It really just showed me that grant was used to doing hard things, you know, we taught
• 23:57
  our kids to like work hard, so I was used to doing hard things.
• 24:00
  So you just did, there's another hard thing.
• 24:02
  I'm going to, I want to ask that.
• 24:05
  That was actually exactly what I was going to ask you next was you had been preparing
• 24:09
  to do hard things since you were in school.
• 24:12
  And you know, since you were playing on the boys teams, you'd been training to do hard
• 24:15
  things.
• 24:16
  And I'd gone through a lot of hard things like we all have.
• 24:18
  So I think it's the frame of like, what if the hard things are actually the best, like
• 24:22
  first of all, have you ever met anyone super cool who life was easy for them?
• 24:26
  Never, never, never, never.
• 24:27
  There are, those people are not cool.
• 24:30
  Agreed.
• 24:31
  Yeah.
• 24:32
  Those are, those are the ones that are cool when high school.
• 24:33
  They're not cool, passing, passing.
• 24:34
  Right.
• 24:35
  Gosh, it is funny in high school.
• 24:36
  You know how the ones like the best looking ones, the ones are amazing.
• 24:40
  You come out and they're like, went nowhere.
• 24:42
  Oh, I was, I was the unattractive kid in school.
• 24:46
  I was always that person and I'm like, I look back today and I'm like, there is not
• 24:49
  a single person.
• 24:50
  Sorry if y'all are watching, but there's not a single person I went to high school with
• 24:53
  that I would trade my life with.
• 24:55
  Not one.
• 24:56
  And not the way I look like we're all turning 50 this year and I'm like, I'll be damned
• 25:02
  if I want to look like any of them, I'm like, I just, my life and then I laugh sometimes
• 25:07
  because like I grew up in a suburb of Detroit and truthfully didn't grow up in a family
• 25:12
  where you can be anything.
• 25:14
  Like it was never that.
• 25:15
  It was a smart kid and I was, you know, pretty socially adept, but I was raised by a grandmother
• 25:20
  who worked and raised two grandchildren and, you know, so on and so forth.
• 25:24
  So I mean, it was a pretty, I would say, atypical, but at the same time it was, it was not a,
• 25:30
  a plush, privileged life in that respect.
• 25:34
  But it was like, but I always believed that it didn't matter what I put my mind to.
• 25:37
  I never approached the world with a scarcity mentality.
• 25:41
  Where did you get that from?
• 25:44
  I don't know and I would say my dad happens to be the same way.
• 25:48
  And although when I was growing up, like, I was a teenage pregnancy, to be honest.
• 25:51
  So, so he was, he was a kid himself.
• 25:53
  Like he was growing up while I was growing up and we've got a great relationship today.
• 25:58
  But the, he's also one of those people and I was telling you earlier, like, I have no concept
• 26:05
  of age because of him, like 62 years old.
• 26:10
  My mother was ready to expire because life had been really, really long and hard.
• 26:14
  68 years old and my dad's hanging a Guinness record on his wall.
• 26:17
  Yeah. Wow.
• 26:18
  And, and I heard him on a podcast the other day, you'd know the guy.
• 26:22
  You know, Barry Shore.
• 26:23
  I'm sure you do.
• 26:24
  He's a Joe polished friend.
• 26:25
  My dad's good friends with Joe.
• 26:27
  Oh, how funny.
• 26:27
  Yeah.
• 26:28
  And so the funny enough.
• 26:30
  So Barry Shore is someone that Joe introduced him to and Barry's the happy whatever he's, he's over the top.
• 26:38
  But I was watching, he was on, I was on Barry's podcast last week or something and my dad had
• 26:43
  been on it as well and I saw his episode and I was like, it's funny.
• 26:46
  And I was watching his episode with Barry and he made the comment and because Barry's like,
• 26:52
  you know, we need to live positive, we need to, he's always, you know, about this cheery
• 26:56
  happy.
• 26:57
  It's a little sugary for me.
• 26:58
  But, you know, great.
• 26:59
  I'd rather that than the opposite.
• 27:01
  And my dad had actually made a comment on Barry's podcast about, he's like, look, I'm 68
• 27:05
  years old right now and he's just like, and I'm going to be honest with you.
• 27:08
  There's nothing today that I can't do that I could have done 30 years ago.
• 27:14
  And he's like, there's literally nothing that I do differently today that would be related
• 27:21
  age.
• 27:22
  He's just like, I run my business.
• 27:23
  I travel all over the place.
• 27:24
  I race cars, I like, I work out at the gym every day, like he's all into the supplementation
• 27:29
  and peptides and all the other kind of stuff as well and it's like, so we kind of nerd
• 27:32
  out on that stuff.
• 27:33
  And he's like, my life hasn't changed.
• 27:36
  He's like, I'm 68 and there's zero difference in the way my life is.
• 27:40
  And you know, and I kind of laughed because I was like, I'm 10th, it's kind of funny
• 27:42
  because like I'm turning 50 and that's a moment for whatever.
• 27:45
  And I'm like, my life's actually better than it was 20 years ago or 30 years ago.
• 27:52
  And it's like, I'm healthier, you know, metabolically and at a cellular level, I'm definitely
• 27:58
  healthier.
• 27:59
  But it's like, even psychologically, like I'm just a healthier person today.
• 28:03
  And it's like, and I think it is that show up at 100% speaking life and speaking into
• 28:09
  existence of things that you want to do.
• 28:11
  And you know, and I always say the, when we set, when we set a goal over here, life has
• 28:17
  a way of reverse engineering, all of the, all of the things that lead up to that, right?
• 28:22
  Because it's the series of milestones on the way.
• 28:24
  And if you never set a goal, you know, every road will take you wherever.
• 28:28
  But if this is where you are, if you're claiming 110% in a hospital room, every one of
• 28:32
  your actions, including the mood I walk into the room in is necessary.
• 28:38
  And anyone else walks into the room and like, yeah, they'd walk in and I, I should them
• 28:42
  out and let them know they could be fired.
• 28:44
  I love that.
• 28:45
  Yeah.
• 28:46
  Absolutely.
• 28:47
  Absolutely.
• 28:48
  Absolutely.
• 28:49
  I love that because it is 100% accurate to say that like people bringing negativity and
• 28:54
  like my aunt, yeah, my aunt Phil and I say, I take care of my aunt, but like she, she
• 28:58
  fell and broke her hip last year.
• 28:59
  And the way that she was being dealt with in the hospital, I'm like, no, we're not doing
• 29:04
  this.
• 29:05
  And it's like, and it was that same type.
• 29:08
  It was the negativity.
• 29:09
  It was they forgot to hook her up to an IV, but took her off of fluids for 24 hours.
• 29:13
  I'm like, what are you doing?
• 29:14
  Like they left her with a broken hip for 36 hours before even getting into an OR.
• 29:20
  What?
• 29:21
  And it's like, it was insane watching this.
• 29:23
  And I'm like, I'm not bringing negativity into the room.
• 29:25
  But I remember like, you know, even when the doctor was there, I'm like, can we step
• 29:29
  in the hallway?
• 29:30
  Yeah.
• 29:31
  Because we're going to have a negative conversation.
• 29:32
  Yeah.
• 29:33
  But we're not doing it in here.
• 29:34
  Oh, that's what I did with them.
• 29:35
  They were like, oh, we're just that that crushed heel became a thing.
• 29:39
  And it's interesting.
• 29:40
  You know, you realize the levels, because at first it was like, okay, well, we got a tornado
• 29:45
  order to fix that.
• 29:46
  All right.
• 29:47
  Well, he's in a coma.
• 29:48
  Like, and that's, that's an expiration day.
• 29:50
  I was like, okay, fix it.
• 29:51
  Like, and, you know, he's getting circle peanut.
• 29:53
  I'm like, I can handle that piece.
• 29:54
  You know, so we're like, but then.
• 29:58
  You know, all of a sudden, he's got this crushed heel and you can't like do anything
• 30:01
  when you have a crushed heel.
• 30:03
  And the orthopedic surgeons come walking in and like, you know, they're the big guys at
• 30:07
  the hospital.
• 30:08
  And they're like, we're just trying to give him to walk again out like out out of the
• 30:12
  room.
• 30:13
  You out of the room.
• 30:14
  You know?
• 30:15
  Yeah.
• 30:16
  Like, we're going to deal with this in the hallway.
• 30:17
  Yeah.
• 30:18
  That's what could happen here in this room.
• 30:19
  And it was that kind of stuff.
• 30:22
  Like, I mean, I love the alignment because I'm the same way like, I don't, I don't want
• 30:25
  that.
• 30:26
  Yeah.
• 30:27
  And I find myself going into that space sometimes.
• 30:30
  I'm like, nope, snap out, snap out, but not going to do that.
• 30:33
  Well, if that, do you know who Mary Morris is?
• 30:36
  Yes.
• 30:37
  So Mary had, had done something to her jaw.
• 30:40
  And so she goes to the dentist and the dentist giving her all this step and she'll stop, stop.
• 30:46
  I need you to be able to hold the vision of this being completely healed.
• 30:51
  Because if you can't hold the vision for you're not, not my dentist to him, if I be like,
• 30:56
  it's not going to work.
• 30:57
  And now, when you think about it and go, they have to be able to come in and see you
• 31:01
  where they have to hold that vision.
• 31:03
  They have to see this.
• 31:04
  All of these things are going to be there.
• 31:06
  They're just like, oh, you're going to be permanently this will never stop it.
• 31:10
  Just stop.
• 31:11
  That's something else.
• 31:12
  Well, DJ, let me ask, like, so your son, obviously your son came through this and ran in
• 31:17
  and which is amazing into a traumatic story and, you know, I 100% believe that you're
• 31:22
  responsible for that.
• 31:24
  Now it took a village.
• 31:25
  My ex-husband was made for this, like, he's the patient human.
• 31:30
  So we are a perfect, perfect pair to do this because I was like, I think when I'd come
• 31:35
  into the hospital or like, oh, damn, is your, is the dad coming in, you know?
• 31:42
  He's the one that would come in with flowers and cheery and I'm like going, what the hell
• 31:45
  is happening over here?
• 31:46
  It's the right.
• 31:47
  So, but he's very, it took, but the reality is the most important person for healing
• 31:53
  that was grant, really having it in him and to be challenged.
• 31:59
  Like I believe we're never better than when we're challenged.
• 32:01
  And it was interesting when he came out at first, I was being a little protective, like
• 32:05
  he'd step off the, you know, curb to go walk out the street and I'm like, you know, football
• 32:09
  tackling him.
• 32:11
  And you know, you have to, you have to push people, you have to challenge him.
• 32:15
  Like today, a gal, I have a gal on my team and she is really working on kind of
• 32:22
  shutting the weight, which I said, well, let's just start with getting your 10,000 steps
• 32:27
  a day in, right?
• 32:29
  And there was like day three and like, this is really hard.
• 32:32
  I go, that's great.
• 32:33
  That's fantastic.
• 32:34
  I go, what if the reframe is when you do hard things, you can do hard things.
• 32:38
  The more you do, the more you can do and like, you're just teaching yourself that you
• 32:41
  can do hard things.
• 32:42
  Have you read the book Do Hard Things?
• 32:44
  Uh-uh.
• 32:45
  Oh, it's actually a great book.
• 32:46
  I'm trying to think of the name of the author, but it's called Do Hard Things.
• 32:48
  It's a hard title.
• 32:49
  Like, I wonder, did the book so well?
• 32:52
  I wish I could tell you.
• 32:53
  I don't, because I just wonder how many people would buy a book saying Do Hard Things.
• 32:56
  I did.
• 32:57
  But he actually, in that book, I believe it's the same book where he actually talks about
• 33:01
  misogies.
• 33:02
  Are you familiar with that?
• 33:03
  Uh-uh.
• 33:04
  So, misogie is a, is a Japanese, I'm going to call it an adventure, but it's almost the,
• 33:09
  the pushing yourself to a limit that you never thought you could do and, and the recommendation
• 33:15
  is, once per year, I'm not certain it's that specific book that talks about misogie,
• 33:20
  but, um, you set a pace for yourself.
• 33:23
  Like, I had a friend who was like, all right, I'm going to do a misogie.
• 33:25
  It's going to be a four by four by 40.
• 33:26
  And I was like, what does that mean?
• 33:29
  And he's like, every four hours, four by four by 48, I think is what he called it.
• 33:34
  And every four hours, he had to run four miles for 48 hours.
• 33:38
  It literally means no sleep.
• 33:40
  I'll get the naps that he could get between.
• 33:42
  So every four hours, he had to go run four miles and then come home and you got to rest
• 33:47
  until the next four hour trigger, then you went and run four miles and, but the whole premise
• 33:52
  behind it is not that that's a health tip.
• 33:54
  Like, right.
• 33:55
  Obviously.
• 33:56
  That's a horrible stressor, but the reality of it, it is the mental discipline that it
• 34:02
  takes to do something.
• 34:03
  I told you, like, I'm doing a 75 hard right now.
• 34:06
  And there are some days, I'm like, I just don't want to do that today.
• 34:10
  Like, I don't, I don't want.
• 34:12
  I just don't want to.
• 34:13
  And I'm like, no, you're, yeah, that's not the point.
• 34:15
  Like, you're going to do it.
• 34:17
  Like, literally, I decided to do a 75 hard and I will be in the middle of it when my
• 34:22
  birthday hits.
• 34:23
  And I'm like, yeah, you know what?
• 34:24
  That's what's going to happen.
• 34:25
  And isn't that the best way of all to celebrate your birthday?
• 34:28
  And I'm not going to touch alcohol for 75 days.
• 34:31
  Not that I'm a big drinker anyways, but it's like, but I'm not going to do that.
• 34:35
  And I'm going to get up and I'm going to do two workouts that day.
• 34:37
  And I'm going to celebrate the fact that I can, first of all, and it's like, and
• 34:42
  I'm not going to eat a cake because I'm not intaking sugar.
• 34:46
  Like, and I'm not going to eat a seed oil just because it's in a dish that I want.
• 34:49
  No, like, I'm not going to do these things because this is part of the discipline.
• 34:52
  And some people like, why would you do that to yourself?
• 34:54
  And somebody's like, well, you can, why wouldn't you do that for yourself exactly?
• 34:58
  And it's for yourself not to yourself.
• 35:01
  Yes.
• 35:01
  I'm like, I'm not doing this to myself.
• 35:04
  It's like, I'm doing this to prove to myself that hard things are possible.
• 35:09
  Yeah.
• 35:10
  And I, like, every year, I'm the New Year's resolution guy.
• 35:14
  Every year, I've got a list of my phone that goes back like 15 years where it's like,
• 35:18
  every year, I'm like, I want to do this, this, this, this, this.
• 35:20
  And I'll make like a list of 50 things that I want to accomplish this year.
• 35:23
  And some of them are financial, some are relational, some are fitness and health related.
• 35:27
  And sometimes they're ridiculous things.
• 35:29
  Like one of my goals this year was to finish 365 days of dual lingo in a row.
• 35:34
  What is that?
• 35:35
  Dual lingo.
• 35:36
  It's the language app where you're practicing other languages.
• 35:38
  And I'm like, I just want to do it 365 days.
• 35:41
  Which language are you practicing?
• 35:42
  Spanish.
• 35:43
  And I'm two days away from my 365.
• 35:45
  Oh, nice.
• 35:46
  And I'm like, so I'm the day 365 this morning.
• 35:49
  But it's, it's not changing.
• 35:51
  So could you do like taco and account?
• 35:53
  To do what?
• 35:54
  Like, could you say taco and account?
• 35:56
  I mean, like how?
• 35:57
  No, no, no.
• 35:58
  It actually walks you through exercise.
• 35:59
  That's it.
• 36:00
  You're right.
• 36:01
  I went to the Mexican restaurant and like a barrio, please.
• 36:07
  Not exactly.
• 36:08
  No.
• 36:09
  No, no.
• 36:10
  Jesus.
• 36:11
  But don't you just get done for today?
• 36:13
  No point out.
• 36:14
  Exactly.
• 36:16
  But no, it's this, but literally it's just for the discipline.
• 36:20
  It's for the discipline of saying I could because if I didn't do it this morning, it's
• 36:22
  not like my life got impacted.
• 36:25
  But getting up and going, no, before you get out of bed, you're going to do your Spanish
• 36:28
  practice before you get out of bed.
• 36:29
  That's why because you said you were going to do it.
• 36:32
  You're going to do it.
• 36:33
  And you commit to your word and you do what you say you're going to do.
• 36:36
  And that discipline echoes in every area of life.
• 36:41
  And I have found, I was actually, so you're familiar with my association with Zona.
• 36:48
  And we're in the midst of the FDA clinical trial and stuff right now and I laugh because
• 36:51
  I told the president of the board, like, yeah, we're going through the FDA clinical trials
• 36:55
  right now.
• 36:56
  We're going to be successful, Mike, and I'm thrilled that we're doing it under a Marty
• 36:59
  McCarrie FDA and blah, blah.
• 37:01
  Yeah.
• 37:02
  And I'm like, this is amazing.
• 37:03
  And he's just like, oh, I love your optimism.
• 37:05
  And I'm like, no, I'm like, in the next six months, I plan on having a meeting with Marty
• 37:09
  McCarrie.
• 37:10
  I'm like, that's just how this is going to work out.
• 37:12
  And he's like, okay, like, and like, it cost nothing to declare that.
• 37:18
  Like, this is what I'm going to do because I want this on the market for the sake of everybody
• 37:22
  else.
• 37:23
  I'm like, and you know what?
• 37:24
  12 months from now.
• 37:25
  Trump.
• 37:26
  Like, why not?
• 37:28
  Why not?
• 37:29
  It doesn't cost anything.
• 37:30
  And then I laughed because I text him Tuesday night, you know, you know, you know, nigs
• 37:33
  all the stony.
• 37:34
  I'm sure.
• 37:35
  And Nick had his dinner on Tuesday night.
• 37:37
  And I had actually helped him with a lot of that stuff for the dinner.
• 37:40
  But I ended up sitting next to Callie at the table and like, you know what, you're sitting
• 37:45
  here.
• 37:46
  Yeah.
• 37:47
  I did it.
• 37:48
  He's like, yeah, okay.
• 37:49
  Like, wait, he was here.
• 37:50
  Take my number, blah, blah.
• 37:51
  And we just sit and chat and so on and so forth.
• 37:52
  And I text Stinson, who's the president of the board and I'm like, he probably mad that
• 37:56
  I used his name because he's like one of those private families.
• 37:59
  Um, but I'm like, yeah, you know what?
• 38:01
  Like I'm sitting here with Callie.
• 38:02
  He's got some really good ideas for us with the FDA and so on.
• 38:04
  And he's like, what are you doing?
• 38:06
  Like, and I'm like, what?
• 38:07
  I said, I was good.
• 38:08
  What I said, I was going to do.
• 38:09
  Yeah.
• 38:10
  That's exactly right.
• 38:11
  Like, I've committed to what I'm doing.
• 38:12
  That's what happened.
• 38:13
  I'm like, why does he guess what?
• 38:14
  This is one of the biggest health problems we face.
• 38:18
  And this is the most amazing, easy way to fix it.
• 38:21
  Right.
• 38:22
  So why wouldn't everyone want to know about it?
• 38:24
  Well, yeah, that for sure.
• 38:25
  But a part of me is like, no, I, I committed fully that if you, if I'm going to lead this
• 38:30
  charge, I'm going to lead it at a hundred percent.
• 38:32
  And so yes, things show up.
• 38:33
  I'm going to make sure that I, because that all happened for a reason.
• 38:38
  Absolutely.
• 38:39
  Now I, now I do have a question for you.
• 38:41
  So Grant, he's well, all as well, you know, that's a great story.
• 38:46
  But, but clearly that was also a moment for you.
• 38:50
  You mean, not only as a mother, because my God, I can't even imagine while you walked
• 38:54
  into his room positively and I'm certain there were tears cried when you got home.
• 38:57
  Actually, I did not cry.
• 38:59
  My, my book agent when I wrote the book said, you know, in talk about crying, I go, I,
• 39:03
  I actually did not cry.
• 39:05
  I'm not a cryer, though.
• 39:06
  I don't really cry when I was praying that I cried TV commercials.
• 39:09
  But beyond that, hormonal situation, that's not how I handle things.
• 39:14
  It's like we all have our ways that we handle things.
• 39:17
  I wish.
• 39:18
  I look at people and I'm like, I wish I could cry like that.
• 39:21
  Like these people that just cry, I wish I'd never been a cryer.
• 39:24
  See, they're funny.
• 39:25
  I'll sweat.
• 39:27
  And I laugh.
• 39:28
  I'm like, I'm your crisis player.
• 39:29
  Like if the world's falling apart, I'm like, I'd get very zen.
• 39:32
  I'm like, I'm like, okay, let's go.
• 39:35
  K and emergency, I am your guy.
• 39:37
  Like I am flow state.
• 39:38
  Yeah.
• 39:39
  The method of crisis.
• 39:40
  Absolutely me too.
• 39:41
  I should have been an ER doc.
• 39:42
  So I did a great ER doctor.
• 39:45
  Yeah, they're so funny.
• 39:46
  Except they probably were to done plastic surgery.
• 39:47
  But that's just because it just seems like something fun to do.
• 39:50
  And then it would just be hurting people.
• 39:52
  So that's probably the best I didn't do.
• 39:53
  Maybe I just think that like I've a lot of friends who are plastic surgeons
• 39:57
  and the problem is people come in for plastic surgery.
• 39:59
  But that's not really what they're trying to fix.
• 40:01
  That's also true.
• 40:02
  Well, I went into clinical psychology instead.
• 40:04
  So yes, I exactly know what you're talking about.
• 40:07
  So grand story, though, that clearly fueled your purpose forward.
• 40:11
  It, um, how did it shift?
• 40:14
  You know, it shifted some things because it was interesting.
• 40:16
  Because here I was publishing a diet book.
• 40:19
  And I remember thinking standing there in the hospital that first night
• 40:24
  and I was like, I am ready.
• 40:25
  I was like, game on, you know?
• 40:28
  And at that man, I'm at the top of my health game.
• 40:31
  Thank God because I am going through a lot of stress,
• 40:35
  but I'd already been prepared for it.
• 40:36
  But it made me realize like what about someone if they weren't ready?
• 40:41
  Like you can't walk into an ICU sick.
• 40:44
  Was it a sniffle?
• 40:45
  You can't go under that kind of stress.
• 40:47
  Like I didn't get sick at all.
• 40:49
  Like I was fine the entire time.
• 40:50
  I was like, you know, I also got to the hospital
• 40:54
  between 5, 30 and 6 a.m. every day, left there about eight.
• 40:57
  I would pop out and run the stairs.
• 40:59
  Health, the whole foods actually found out and was delivering food.
• 41:02
  Like I ate healthy.
• 41:03
  I did everything the way I normally I kept all my stuff up.
• 41:06
  Do I normally do?
• 41:08
  I do.
• 41:09
  And worked bedside with him in a coma
• 41:11
  and did like interviews out of the office.
• 41:14
  But it just what it really made me reframe was that you've just,
• 41:21
  you've got to seize every moment of every day.
• 41:23
  You can't say, I will handle that little health thing tomorrow
• 41:26
  because had I had any stuff going on,
• 41:29
  that would have been a very, like, that would have been a problem.
• 41:31
  Like the fact I could show up completely and fully and be there for him.
• 41:35
  And the other thing is, you know the Gary,
• 41:38
  I think it's Gary Keller, it's great Keller.
• 41:40
  Guy, you wrote one thing, hmm.
• 41:44
  So it is this whole book about how when you just,
• 41:47
  the amount of things we can get done if we just,
• 41:49
  instead of like having a lot of stuff,
• 41:50
  which all of us ADD entrepreneurs love that a lot of things.
• 41:53
  But if we just focus on a thing, get the thing done,
• 41:56
  then focus on the next thing,
• 41:57
  like we can accomplish enormous things.
• 42:00
  And what happened when Grant got hit
• 42:02
  is I literally evaluated everything and went, okay.
• 42:05
  Number one, my health and self-care,
• 42:08
  which is not what most people would do.
• 42:11
  They would have completely thrown that out the window.
• 42:13
  And I realized I can't show up for Grant
• 42:16
  and be in the, I see you if I'm sick.
• 42:18
  So I have got to be well rested.
• 42:20
  I think I'd be able to make right decisions, et cetera.
• 42:22
  So I was like, I took even better care of my health.
• 42:28
  So that was the first big thing.
• 42:29
  And the next thing was Grant.
• 42:31
  And, you know, of course, my ex-husband was taking care of my son,
• 42:34
  Bryce, so that took a pressure off of that.
• 42:37
  Because I was two hours away from home.
• 42:39
  And then the third thing was making this book go bigger
• 42:42
  than I could have ever even conceived of it
• 42:43
  because it was going to fund all of the things
• 42:46
  I was going to need to do for Grant
• 42:47
  because insurance is not going to cover
• 42:49
  interstitial stem cells and all the stuff.
• 42:51
  We did all the stuff.
• 42:53
  And so that's what I did.
• 42:55
  And so I just focused.
• 42:57
  I got rid of all the rest of the stuff.
• 42:59
  And it made me realize that most of the stuff
• 43:02
  we spend our time on and worry about
• 43:04
  our distractions and silliness.
• 43:05
  Like, I just wouldn't even let that go on my brain.
• 43:07
  And I've kept to that to this day of like,
• 43:11
  what can I get rid of?
• 43:12
  What can I get rid of?
• 43:13
  What is the distraction?
• 43:14
  Because most of what we spend our time on
• 43:16
  is not remotely relevant.
• 43:19
  Most of the things we, like, I'm not a warrior.
• 43:22
  But most of the stuff we just worry about stuff.
• 43:24
  And it's just,
• 43:26
  what I'm hearing so much of is like,
• 43:28
  every day is training day.
• 43:29
  Yeah.
• 43:30
  But it doesn't matter.
• 43:31
  Every day is training day.
• 43:32
  Yeah, every day you've got to show up and say,
• 43:34
  and again, it was funny.
• 43:35
  I, you know, Nat and I'm very close.
• 43:38
  I love Nat.
• 43:39
  So Nat and I, so I was in the gym this morning
• 43:41
  and then Nat walked in and we're like, blah, blah, blah, you know?
• 43:45
  And she's like going, oh, you know,
• 43:46
  today's just not going to be a big workout day.
• 43:48
  Like she was kind of realized
• 43:49
  because we like talked too much.
• 43:51
  And then it's like, today you showed up,
• 43:53
  you came in, you did some stuff, you did it.
• 43:56
  Like, you know, every day doesn't have to be the hardest day,
• 43:58
  but every day is a training day.
• 44:00
  Every day you have to show up and, you know,
• 44:02
  you do your best that you can in that situation.
• 44:04
  I love Nat.
• 44:05
  I actually got to know Nat and, like, love her to death.
• 44:09
  We did a couple Tony Robbins conferences together.
• 44:11
  Oh, sure.
• 44:12
  Fine.
• 44:14
  Some of the laughs we've had in like the tears,
• 44:16
  like they, they, they, everything.
• 44:17
  It's a Tony Robbins contest.
• 44:18
  I still has only been, I've been, I've been,
• 44:20
  I do Tony, I speak for Tony,
• 44:23
  but I've only been to business mastery.
• 44:26
  We did business mastery back in August
• 44:29
  and then ended up doing date with Destiny,
• 44:32
  which date with Destiny and I'll care who you are.
• 44:34
  Like you're walking out of there with something, right?
• 44:35
  Like it's, it's, it's,
• 44:37
  I've got a somewhere.
• 44:37
  I've been to this for you.
• 44:39
  Yeah, it's really, it's kind of ridiculous, isn't it?
• 44:41
  Like I go and teach you December.
• 44:43
  He always does it, like, first week of December every year.
• 44:46
  I know a couple of people that are actually
• 44:47
  going to go do it this year.
• 44:48
  Yeah, I mean, I can go whenever I want,
• 44:50
  because so it's kind of going like,
• 44:53
  this is really silly that I haven't made it
• 44:55
  to one of these things yet.
• 44:56
  I think that's not easy.
• 44:57
  You need to do a date with Destiny.
• 44:59
  Like in Tony, such a genius at like NLP.
• 45:01
  So it's like, it is incredible to watch him,
• 45:05
  how he can do these things is quite, it's quite seasoning.
• 45:09
  He's a forcing nature.
• 45:10
  He is, I remember early on when I was a
• 45:13
  did Dr. Phil for a couple of years,
• 45:15
  and I would watch the way the guy thought on his feet
• 45:17
  and I was like, this guy, like, say whatever you want,
• 45:20
  but man, is he good, you know, and then you go,
• 45:23
  then Tony is like 10 x, 100 x that.
• 45:26
  You just watch, you go, I got a Tony story for you.
• 45:30
  We're in December and it's one of these hypnotic moments
• 45:35
  and whatever and everybody's going through this exercise
• 45:37
  where they're forgiving somebody in their past.
• 45:39
  And like, you know, this stuff that I tend to intuitively
• 45:43
  check out on because that's not into the woo kind of stuff,
• 45:47
  but I play along and have the experience like all good.
• 45:51
  And this little Malaysian lady, you can picture this
• 45:54
  because you know, Tony was little Malaysian lady is there
• 45:58
  and she stands up to tell her story
• 46:00
  and she's like, I today had broken, broken English,
• 46:03
  you know, forgave my mother and Tony's like,
• 46:06
  that's great, you know, tell us the story
• 46:09
  and she says, when I was a child,
• 46:11
  I was probably five or six years old
• 46:14
  and my mother told me that she couldn't afford
• 46:18
  to keep me anymore and she told me I had to go live
• 46:22
  with another family for a while until she earned enough money
• 46:26
  for her to be able to afford us to be together.
• 46:30
  And you know, and everybody's like,
• 46:31
  oh, sad sits or collective gasp in the audience,
• 46:34
  6,000 people all with a deep sigh.
• 46:37
  And she went, and the first time I talked to my mother
• 46:41
  on a telephone, I told her that the man I was living with
• 46:45
  was sexually abusing me every night.
• 46:48
  Now 6,000 gasps.
• 46:50
  And she said, and my mother told me to just stick it out
• 46:54
  for six months and she'll have enough money.
• 46:57
  And like, the whole room froze
• 47:00
  because that's just one of those like,
• 47:02
  like, oh my God, like that's like,
• 47:04
  that's a horrible story like whatever.
• 47:07
  And she's like, and tonight, I and Tony went,
• 47:11
  stop right there.
• 47:13
  Okay, now 6,000 people are horrifying.
• 47:16
  And he said, totally.
• 47:18
  And he's like, I want to stop you right there.
• 47:21
  He said, there isn't a cell in your body
• 47:26
  that that man has ever touched.
• 47:31
  And everybody just kind of arrested for a moment
• 47:33
  and he goes, the cells in your body
• 47:35
  actually recreate themselves at most every seven years.
• 47:41
  And your body renews every seven years,
• 47:44
  which means your body has regenerated every cell
• 47:49
  multiple times.
• 47:50
  And the only reason the cells in your body
• 47:53
  even know that that man touched you
• 47:56
  is because you keep telling yourself this story
• 47:59
  over and over and over again.
• 48:02
  And you are passing that trauma along
• 48:05
  to every version of you that is reborn year after year.
• 48:09
  And it was like, oh, and you're like,
• 48:13
  oh, like, wow, that was a pattern interrupt, right?
• 48:17
  That was like psychological genius.
• 48:20
  And he went, and I want you to finish the story.
• 48:23
  And when the story is finished,
• 48:25
  it never gets repeated again.
• 48:27
  Go ahead.
• 48:29
  It was like, I was like,
• 48:31
  holy moly, what did that man just do in this room?
• 48:35
  Like you took 6,000 people and took them
• 48:37
  through an emotional journey.
• 48:38
  Like how did he, like, isn't that cool?
• 48:41
  It's just, it's not in that.
• 48:43
  Yeah, like, there's a couple of people,
• 48:45
  I think are aliens.
• 48:48
  Please, I want to know.
• 48:48
  He's not an alien.
• 48:50
  I bet I actually, right?
• 48:51
  He's clearly an alien.
• 48:52
  Yeah, definitely spectrum, but.
• 48:54
  Yeah, yeah.
• 48:55
  Well, but I mean, just to think of these things,
• 48:56
  but the big thinking out of him.
• 48:58
  Tony's like either channeled, you know,
• 49:01
  in Sages too, by the way,
• 49:02
  I was doing a thing with Tams and Fidel
• 49:05
  and we were co-interviewing Sage.
• 49:07
  And I'm like, okay.
• 49:09
  Like what did you just do here, you know?
• 49:11
  Listen, like, wow, you know,
• 49:14
  but he has just channeled.
• 49:16
  It is quite something that was incredible.
• 49:18
  I mean, where would you learn how to do this
• 49:20
  and to feel into it, to know what you can do
• 49:23
  because you got to create a lot of psychological safety
• 49:25
  to be able to do something like that
• 49:26
  and not just piss someone off
• 49:28
  and have them retract and go crazy.
• 49:30
  Yes, you know?
• 49:31
  And we were there and it was me and Natalie.
• 49:34
  And you know, Olivia Lassler,
• 49:36
  she's a psycho-neural immunologist.
• 49:38
  So she and I breakfast the next morning.
• 49:40
  I was like, what in the world?
• 49:42
  Yeah, what just happened?
• 49:43
  And I told you, like, my background's clinical psych.
• 49:45
  So like, we start going on and on and on
• 49:47
  about this power of, you know,
• 49:48
  and I'm just like, this is something that I've been
• 49:50
  like so into and blah, blah, blah.
• 49:51
  And oh my gosh, like, what do you just did?
• 49:52
  And it was like, what in the world just happened?
• 49:56
  And but it all ties back to this moment with Grant, right?
• 49:59
  It's 110.
• 50:01
  It's 110.
• 50:02
  And speaking those types of things over your body
• 50:04
  makes your body respond as if they were already happening.
• 50:07
  Like tell your body that like,
• 50:08
  and I will say like even using,
• 50:10
  I'm sure, you know, Vision Lachiani.
• 50:12
  And like, you know, talking to Vision and getting,
• 50:16
  you know, some of the, even the what he does with,
• 50:18
  like the silver method meditation and stuff.
• 50:20
  And like, and I got into that deep for a little while
• 50:23
  and listening to the fact like,
• 50:25
  I've actually found myself in places
• 50:27
  where I'm like, I have an upset stomach right now.
• 50:30
  But I'm on an airplane.
• 50:31
  There's a whole lot I can do about this.
• 50:32
  We're not gonna have this.
• 50:33
  I mean, this is just going to be my thing.
• 50:35
  And I'm like, wait, this doesn't have to be my thing though.
• 50:39
  Like, because I'm not going to just suffer through this.
• 50:42
  And I'm like, okay, like, I'm gonna put myself
• 50:44
  into a meditative state.
• 50:46
  And I'm going to speak to the cells in my body
• 50:49
  and tell them to diagnose what's going on and fix this.
• 50:52
  And we'll actually feel that going on in my own body
• 50:55
  and it settles that upset stomach.
• 50:58
  Because like, no, I need you to awaken.
• 51:00
  Like, I need you to behave in a way right now
• 51:03
  and I call the shots here.
• 51:05
  Like, this is what happens.
• 51:06
  And I think it's that power of voice
• 51:10
  is so incredible.
• 51:14
  And I love that.
• 51:14
  Like, the grand story, about 110%.
• 51:17
  Like, I'm gonna use that from now on.
• 51:19
  It's gonna be, it's gonna be the 110% or nothing.
• 51:21
  But, right.
• 51:22
  There's no, there's burn the boats.
• 51:24
  Yeah, burn all the boats.
• 51:26
  Take that island.
• 51:26
  Yep, we're burning the boats.
• 51:27
  We're not going home, yeah.
• 51:29
  Like, this is where life is going to be right now.
• 51:31
  Like, this is not an optional moment.
• 51:34
  This is, this is, I'm declaring victory in advance.
• 51:37
  Time just has to catch up.
• 51:39
  100%.
• 51:40
  I love that.
• 51:42
  That's not mine.
• 51:42
  I got a credit.
• 51:43
  One of my buddies, Kevin Ellis.
• 51:45
  He would stand up on one of our masterminds, right?
• 51:47
  And he's like, la la la la la.
• 51:49
  And time just has a cut up.
• 51:51
  I'm actually a guest on Kevin's podcast tomorrow.
• 51:54
  Oh, how funny.
• 51:55
  I know I've known Kevin for years
• 51:57
  through Michael Fisherman's group.
• 51:58
  I've yet to do mastermind.
• 52:00
  So I'm planning on it this year.
• 52:02
  You're coming to Mindshare this year?
• 52:03
  That's your Mindshare.
• 52:03
  Yes.
• 52:04
  Hey, you're a mastermind.
• 52:05
  We have the Mindshare and then we have the mastermind there.
• 52:08
  Like we have the big group and then we have a smaller group.
• 52:11
  So we'll come to the big group
• 52:13
  and then you'll feel into it to see if it's,
• 52:15
  I don't know what's going on with your life.
• 52:16
  If it's, if you're looking for the time
• 52:19
  to have an amazing group that's all thinking this way
• 52:22
  and grow and scale your business, that's the mastermind.
• 52:25
  And this that Mindshare is?
• 52:26
  Is Mindshare's our big community?
• 52:28
  And then we do our amazing event each year.
• 52:30
  Last year was Tim's 60th birthday party.
• 52:33
  Oh, the 60th party was super fun.
• 52:36
  So every year we have a costume party.
• 52:37
  This year's team is all around AI.
• 52:39
  So it's all about how we need to show up as superheroes.
• 52:46
  That my time is being spent right now.
• 52:49
  So it's very exciting.
• 52:50
  Like the AI thing's very exciting.
• 52:52
  It's very exciting for what we'll be able to do in health
• 52:54
  and where we need to show up.
• 52:56
  Like how we need to really lean into our brands,
• 52:59
  our voice, you know?
• 53:01
  So.
• 53:02
  And then, and I've said about AI, like people like,
• 53:05
  oh, AI, whatever.
• 53:05
  And I was a college professor for many years.
• 53:07
  And it's like, and I can't even imagine being a college
• 53:10
  I've got friends that are still teaching.
• 53:12
  And I'm like, I don't even know how you're dealing
• 53:14
  with AI right now for people turning
• 53:16
  and writing assignments and stuff like, I,
• 53:18
  yeah, how would you know?
• 53:19
  How would you know if they, they like,
• 53:21
  and the other part of it is, okay, now you're going to school.
• 53:24
  What are you actually like, what are you studying?
• 53:26
  Right.
• 53:27
  Are you like, cause really what you need to study
• 53:29
  is how to prompt.
• 53:30
  Correct.
• 53:31
  That's the most important thing is how to ask amazing questions.
• 53:34
  Absolutely.
• 53:35
  And the reality is, is like, it's this idea of like,
• 53:37
  I believe that the smart people are going to get smarter
• 53:40
  from it.
• 53:40
  And I think stupid people are going to get stupider from it.
• 53:43
  Like because if you're willing to do hard things,
• 53:46
  this is going to be a superpower.
• 53:48
  And if you're not willing to do hard things,
• 53:51
  you're going to use it as a crutch
• 53:52
  that's going to make you limp even worse
• 53:54
  than you already did.
• 53:56
  And I don't think there's an in between.
• 53:58
  Yeah.
• 53:59
  So I remember calculators and, and, and, and I had a great,
• 54:04
  great, I had to like take, I don't know,
• 54:06
  five statistics courses in grad school.
• 54:08
  I'm like, why is this so ridiculous?
• 54:11
  But the biggest thing I remember from all of those was,
• 54:13
  they said, you have to be able to know how to do it
• 54:15
  without the calculator and know the right answer
• 54:18
  so that you can eyeball it to go.
• 54:19
  It's just in the ballpark.
• 54:21
  And that's how I see was AI.
• 54:22
  It's like, it's, you still right now,
• 54:24
  and maybe one day it won't.
• 54:25
  But, you know, we have to know how to prompt
• 54:27
  and go, this is even in the ballpark
• 54:29
  because it's like where I need to be, right?
• 54:31
  So, yep.
• 54:33
  Well, and it's, I think AI is either going to,
• 54:36
  and I always say that what it's done for me
• 54:39
  is it's given me more time to critically think.
• 54:43
  Yes, like I'm able to do what only humans can do
• 54:47
  because I've off-boarded some of the things
• 54:48
  that I don't have to spend my time doing.
• 54:51
  And I think that the people on the other side of that,
• 54:54
  that continuum are using it to replace the things
• 54:59
  that give them the time to critical think.
• 55:01
  Like, they're using it too critically think.
• 55:04
  It's like, got it, but now you're gonna lose that quality.
• 55:07
  Like, don't use it, you lose it.
• 55:09
  And that's what's going to happen.
• 55:10
  And for me, I'm like, I'm finding that it's elevating
• 55:13
  my thinking and I, you know, as a marketing guy,
• 55:15
  even like, I sit and spend all my time,
• 55:18
  I'm like, I have creative meetings with my, with my GPT.
• 55:21
  Like, hey, I've got these ideas.
• 55:22
  This is what I'm thinking of.
• 55:23
  Like, what are your thoughts?
• 55:24
  What, what holes can you find?
• 55:26
  And by the way, do me a favor.
• 55:27
  Like, go, go ask Donald Miller
• 55:30
  what his opinion would be on this topic.
• 55:31
  And, you know, ask Joe Polish
• 55:33
  what he would do in this situation.
• 55:35
  Like, and, and using these types of prompts and stuff.
• 55:37
  And I'm like, and I have these amazing meetings.
• 55:40
  And, and I like, is like, sometimes I'll literally
• 55:43
  just drive home and putting on my Bluetooth
• 55:47
  and I'll hit the GPT button, just talk to my,
• 55:50
  my bot on my drive home.
• 55:53
  Hey, I had this going on at work today.
• 55:55
  And these are the things that I'm trying to figure out.
• 55:56
  And I don't know how to approach the situation,
• 55:58
  but these are the things I'm thinking about.
• 56:01
  Okay, have you seen the thing?
• 56:02
  My canyx turned me on to this.
• 56:04
  And it's this prompt that basically will,
• 56:07
  it will give you your five greatest areas of weakness.
• 56:11
  Yes.
• 56:13
  Did you do it?
• 56:14
  I have not yet, but I do know my canyx
• 56:16
  and the, I have not done it yet.
• 56:19
  I need you.
• 56:20
  We were all in Mexico.
• 56:21
  Excited female founders groups.
• 56:22
  So a bunch of us were having dinnery sat down.
• 56:24
  You, and I'm like, holy smokes.
• 56:27
  It is absolutely spot on.
• 56:30
  Sad, right?
• 56:32
  It's incredible.
• 56:33
  Yeah.
• 56:33
  It kind of like, I don't know if I want to read this.
• 56:35
  I've been finding it just being used in just,
• 56:38
  I say like even client proposals, brand guidelines.
• 56:40
  And you're just like, look, this is what I'm trying to do.
• 56:42
  This is the picture.
• 56:43
  I'm not losing my ability to understand the market.
• 56:47
  I'm not losing my ability to understand a product placement.
• 56:50
  That is very much in tune.
• 56:53
  I'm just asking you to kind of take my words
• 56:55
  and make them coherent.
• 56:56
  Yeah.
• 56:57
  And then I'll edit.
• 56:59
  But, but you're able to advance the thinking
• 57:01
  and move on to the next topic
• 57:03
  to go critically think the next topic
• 57:05
  because you advanced my work.
• 57:07
  Like you made me smarter.
• 57:08
  I've been doing all my supplement formulation with AI.
• 57:11
  That's amazing.
• 57:12
  It's unbelievable.
• 57:13
  No, I think that's absolutely amazing.
• 57:15
  I was actually talking, you mentioned AI
• 57:17
  and I had a meeting, probably shouldn't even say this,
• 57:19
  but I, you know, changing life and destiny conference, Alpernia.
• 57:23
  You know, Al, so changing life and destiny is every year in Dallas
• 57:25
  and it's beautiful.
• 57:27
  I would say it's one of my favorite conferences of the year
• 57:29
  because it's not, it's not giant stage.
• 57:33
  It's very family driven.
• 57:34
  A lot of practitioners, chiropractic, functional health
• 57:37
  and they do CEUs and everything.
• 57:38
  But like Dan Pompa got recognized this year
• 57:41
  in Fab Mancini and these guys, you know all of them.
• 57:44
  And, but I love that.
• 57:46
  So we actually did all of their marketing
• 57:48
  and everything for them this year to help bring this on.
• 57:50
  We just did a meeting recently
• 57:52
  and talking about the 2026 conference
• 57:56
  and I'll keep you posted on it and never heard of it.
• 57:58
  Yeah, they've been doing it for many years
• 58:01
  and it's always at the, in Plano, Texas
• 58:03
  and it's, it's a great conference
• 58:05
  because like I said, it's all people
• 58:07
  who it's very well networked.
• 58:08
  They'll big tree spoke there this year.
• 58:11
  So great, great conference.
• 58:14
  Anyways, I was talking to Alan, like Alec,
• 58:16
  your audience is practitioners.
• 58:18
  It's not consumers.
• 58:20
  The audience is getting as many practitioners
• 58:22
  there as possible and like this year's conversation
• 58:25
  needs to be about AI because practitioners
• 58:28
  are busy practicing and they're not taking the time
• 58:32
  to understand the way that this is instrumental
• 58:34
  in their practice.
• 58:36
  And it was, you know, talking about this
• 58:38
  and it's funny because that conversation came up
• 58:40
  when I was talking with Chris Motley.
• 58:42
  I'm sure you know, Chris Motley,
• 58:43
  he took over Josh Axe's podcast, Ancient Health.
• 58:47
  But anyways, Chris is a cool guy.
• 58:49
  He's a functional doctor and I'm like,
• 58:50
  Chris, let me ask you, do you use AI and diagnostics?
• 58:53
  And he's just like, I can't tell you I do.
• 58:55
  And I'm like, well, let me ask you a question.
• 58:57
  I'm like, because from a diagnostic standpoint,
• 58:58
  was I was demonstrating this.
• 59:00
  And I'm like, a patient one comes in,
• 59:02
  has a presenting issue, you find a solution,
• 59:05
  you give it, patient two comes in, similar symptoms,
• 59:08
  you give them that solution, patient three comes in,
• 59:10
  same situation, patient four comes in,
• 59:13
  what's your natural bent?
• 59:16
  And he's like, probably given the same solution
• 59:18
  I gave the other three and I'm like, yeah,
• 59:19
  but what if the symptoms the same,
• 59:22
  but the root cause is different?
• 59:24
  Mike, AI is such a way for you to objectively.
• 59:28
  This is the symptom, this is the patient profile.
• 59:31
  Do me a favor, invite JJ Virgin to the conversation,
• 59:35
  invite Stam Pompa to the conversation,
• 59:37
  invite Mindy Pell to the conversation,
• 59:39
  find out what all of them would say about a person
• 59:41
  who with all of this diagnosis,
• 59:43
  and what are the possible things?
• 59:46
  And like, and maybe it spits out six different possibilities.
• 59:49
  Like, you can probably objectively,
• 59:50
  you can cross two off.
• 59:52
  If these two nope, yep, this is the one that I assumed.
• 59:55
  But wow, I've got to chink in my armor on these three
• 59:58
  cause I haven't disproved them.
• 59:59
  I haven't ruled these three out.
• 1:00:01
  So it's too early for me to jump to this one.
• 1:00:04
  And he's like, I have never even thought.
• 1:00:07
  I just got my vibrant labs tests back
• 1:00:10
  and I was like, oh, I should talk to the lab director
• 1:00:12
  over there and I go, wait a minute.
• 1:00:13
  So I tell him, wait a minute, hold on.
• 1:00:17
  I don't have to do that.
• 1:00:18
  And I literally put in some of my favorite practitioners
• 1:00:21
  and gave it all the information,
• 1:00:23
  dropped it on my labs and it was like, well, it's crazy.
• 1:00:29
  I did this and I would not show him,
• 1:00:31
  but I was showing Alan and Mike.
• 1:00:32
  And I did this full like Dr.
• 1:00:34
  House MD diagnostics thing.
• 1:00:36
  And I'm like, and I'm asking it, like, what are the rule outs?
• 1:00:40
  You know, what are the things it could be?
• 1:00:42
  Are there, I'm asking like, are there mental house comorbidities
• 1:00:46
  that I should be looking for and so on?
• 1:00:47
  And did this full practice diagnostic?
• 1:00:49
  I'm like, Isaac, this is Mark Heiminsworth.
• 1:00:51
  This is function health, right?
• 1:00:53
  Like, it's take all the data, put it into the AI
• 1:00:55
  and then baseline it against general population type information
• 1:00:58
  and we can get a pretty good answer.
• 1:01:01
  Like, that's not the future.
• 1:01:03
  Like, that's the present right now.
• 1:01:04
  Like, we need to get more people realizing the power of this.
• 1:01:08
  The future is you have your own health GPT.
• 1:01:10
  It knows all your stuff.
• 1:01:12
  Yes.
• 1:01:12
  You know, so each time you do a lab,
• 1:01:15
  and you're wearable, everything reports into it.
• 1:01:17
  And you have a virtual doctor available on your desktop,
• 1:01:21
  which is actually the whole thing.
• 1:01:23
  JJ, I don't want to keep you updated.
• 1:01:24
  Oh my gosh.
• 1:01:25
  We could sit and chat all afternoon.
• 1:01:26
  I absolutely love it.
• 1:01:28
  I don't want to keep you all day,
• 1:01:29
  but I am so grateful that you took the time
• 1:01:31
  to come see me while you were here.
• 1:01:32
  Like, that means a lot.
• 1:01:33
  And like, I just look forward to seeing the future.
• 1:01:35
  Thank you for the pleasure.
• 1:01:36
  I'm excited you're coming to my chair.
• 1:01:38
  I will be, for sure.
• 1:01:39
  See, you sold a ticket while you were here.
• 1:01:40
  But the reality is,
• 1:01:43
  is like, just your story is inspirational.
• 1:01:45
  The work you do is incredible.
• 1:01:46
  And literally millions of people have been impacted
• 1:01:48
  by what you do, whether through books.
• 1:01:50
  The biggest ones are coming.
• 1:01:51
  My big book is coming.
• 1:01:53
  Like, seriously, like, seriously, my best work is ahead.
• 1:01:56
  It's what I've been wanting to do forever.
• 1:01:58
  And I feel like, does that guy
• 1:01:59
  just finally caught up to me?
• 1:02:01
  I love that.
• 1:02:02
  Do you know Dan Sullivan?
• 1:02:03
  Yes.
• 1:02:04
  I've worked with him for years.
• 1:02:06
  Oh, that's amazing.
• 1:02:07
  So Dan, who is actually very good friends with my dad.
• 1:02:11
  So I know Dan and Babs for ages and whatnot.
• 1:02:13
  And but Dan, oh, I don't pants as well.
• 1:02:16
  Let me show you.
• 1:02:16
  I was at her birthday party
• 1:02:17
  and like, everybody wore red glasses.
• 1:02:19
  Oh, they're so funny.
• 1:02:21
  But Dan, who is also the tallest girl in class, right?
• 1:02:24
  I know, that's why Babs and I are fond of.
• 1:02:27
  You know?
• 1:02:28
  We're always like, wait, you're taller.
• 1:02:29
  Wait, you're taller.
• 1:02:30
  Like, what shoes are you wearing?
• 1:02:31
  But Dan always uses the phrase
• 1:02:33
  that the only way to thrive is for your future
• 1:02:34
  to be bigger than your past.
• 1:02:35
  Yeah.
• 1:02:36
  And I just, I love that quote.
• 1:02:38
  Like, the future's gotta be bigger than the past
• 1:02:39
  or what's going on.
• 1:02:40
  Yeah.
• 1:02:41
  Otherwise you're declined.
• 1:02:42
  And it's so funny, because as people are aging,
• 1:02:43
  it's like they're looking at all the things they can't do.
• 1:02:46
  Now, and I was like, what if, like,
• 1:02:48
  I literally have role models around me.
• 1:02:50
  It's one of the reasons I love spending time
• 1:02:52
  with Mary Morrissey.
• 1:02:53
  I'm like, Mary Morrissey had more success in business
• 1:02:56
  at 70 than all of her years prior to that combined.
• 1:03:00
  It's like, come on.
• 1:03:02
  My best years are totally ahead of me.
• 1:03:04
  And it's like, there's a guy who was doing
• 1:03:06
  a documentary called Your Second 50.
• 1:03:09
  And, you know, when I was chatting with him
• 1:03:11
  and he was at the Chain In Life Index conference, actually.
• 1:03:14
  And I was like, oh, you know, I'll introduce you to my dad
• 1:03:17
  because he's like, you know, I've been looking for somebody
• 1:03:19
  for this that would, you know,
• 1:03:19
  does race car driving and I'm like, oh, I got your eye.
• 1:03:21
  Like, great, I'm like, let me introduce you to him.
• 1:03:24
  And my dad's just like, well, why don't you do it?
• 1:03:26
  Like, you're turning 50.
• 1:03:26
  Like, why don't you talk to him?
• 1:03:27
  I'm like, one, I'm not a race car driver.
• 1:03:29
  I'm like, two, I'm actually going to do your third 50.
• 1:03:31
  Like, you can do your second.
• 1:03:34
  Like, I'll do the third 50.
• 1:03:35
  I got you.
• 1:03:36
  And it was like, cause it cost me nothing
• 1:03:39
  to have that frame of mind.
• 1:03:41
  Right?
• 1:03:42
  Like, cost me zero.
• 1:03:43
  Yeah, if you follow short, whatever.
• 1:03:45
  You know, aim for the stars, land on the moon.
• 1:03:46
  Like, that's cool.
• 1:03:47
  Like, yeah, still under planetary at that point, right?
• 1:03:49
  Like, I love it.
• 1:03:50
  But thank you so much for joining.
• 1:03:52
  Like, name so much.
• 1:03:53
  And I appreciate you being here.
• 1:03:55
  And for anybody who's looking to get ahold of the infamous
• 1:03:59
  JJ Virgin, I think most of you already know how to find JJ.
• 1:04:02
  But follow JJ, follow all her work.
• 1:04:05
  Pick up her new book.
• 1:04:07
  2026 that will be coming to every bookstore
• 1:04:10
  everywhere in 2026.
• 1:04:11
  Absolutely.
• 1:04:12
  Well, I told Ben as Audi that when I go to a bookstore,
• 1:04:14
  I actually go sign some of his books.
• 1:04:16
  I'm like, I go autograph some of the books for you.
• 1:04:18
  Is there any signings?
• 1:04:19
  And he's like, wait, did you really do that?
• 1:04:21
  Of course I didn't.
• 1:04:22
  But maybe I'll go autographs in JJ books, too.
• 1:04:25
  But thank you so much.
• 1:04:26
  We'll put all your contact information and links
• 1:04:28
  to all your social stuff and everything in the notes here.
• 1:04:32
  So please, JJ's amazing.
• 1:04:34
  Like, you're your legend in the health space.
• 1:04:37
  And it's just an honor to call you friend.
• 1:04:40
  Thank you.