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- 0:01Today on the podcast, we're going to continue with a
- 0:04listener question. And today's question is how to
- 0:07follow up with a contact. I repeat today's question, how
- 0:11to follow up with a contact. And I know we tackled something
- 0:14similar yesterday. I think in the real estate
- 0:16space, I think that was from Lucia in Abuja.
- 0:21But today we're going to be Abdul from China.
- 0:26He's based in China and he sells trucks.
- 0:28I believe. I've already spoken about his
- 0:30business in the past and even though I've tackled some
- 0:36questions from him, I'm not sure I've tackled this one.
- 0:39So let me just go ahead and do this real quick.
- 0:42Even if I have tackled it before, don't worry, there's
- 0:45going to be some different perspectives so you will learn
- 0:48something new. So how to follow up with a
- 0:50contact? And in this case we are no
- 0:52longer talking about real estate, we are talking about
- 0:55truck sales. So tractor heads, trucks,
- 0:57tractor beds, you know those sorts of things.
- 0:59You know people who are selling big, big things, making big, big
- 1:02money. Because the smallest amounts
- 1:05that any of these people are collecting is you know, 20M30M
- 1:09big, big money. These are the people that would
- 1:11like to hang out with. So if you like you know,
- 1:16thinking about these sorts of issues, how do we make money?
- 1:18How do we collecting 2020M5050M100100M from people?
- 1:23Then this is the podcast for you.
- 1:26So subscribe on Spotify, YouTube, Apple or any player of
- 1:30your choice. And if you'd like to connect
- 1:32with me, you can call send me a text message via WhatsApp
- 1:34message on 08064662140. Just like Abdul did and just
- 1:42like Lucia did. And yeah, let's see what we can
- 1:47make happen. Oh, by the way, my name is
- 1:49Tavishima Ayede. I'm the host of the show.
- 1:53Forgive me, I have a cold, just recovering.
- 1:56So like I said, now the question for today, how to follow up with
- 1:59a contact. Now some things to note for
- 2:02those of you who listened to yesterday's podcast, you already
- 2:05know that I've stressed the difference between follow up and
- 2:08follow through. So actually, his question should
- 2:11have been phrased follow through, but you don't let that
- 2:15one pass, you know, because he's a listener, a new listener, only
- 2:19started listening to the podcast not long ago.
- 2:22And then it's going to take a while for we Niger people to
- 2:25stop saying follow up and they say follow through.
- 2:28However, the difference is not just semantical.
- 2:30It's not just words for word's sake.
- 2:33When you're following up, excuse me, even you can't testify it
- 2:37yourself. Is it really pointless?
- 2:40You're just calling, no answer. You call for the sake of calling
- 2:44and then you call again. Maybe the guy picks and then you
- 2:47guys talk, but then the deal is not closing and then you're
- 2:51calling again. So that is what Neil Rackham in
- 2:54spin selling. I think I made reference to that
- 2:57book in yesterday's podcast episode.
- 2:58That is what Neil Rackham calls continuations.
- 3:01You're calling, you're talking, you know, as if you're friends,
- 3:05but you know, you're OK, you're pleasant, but this deal is not
- 3:09going forward. So you have 20 conversations
- 3:12with somebody. You know your wife is asking you
- 3:15how far because you know now if 20 million lands inside the
- 3:19house account is a good thing though.
- 3:21So your wife is asking how far? But in all honesty, yeah, all
- 3:24honesty, you've had 20 conversations with the person
- 3:26but you don't know whether you're making progress or you're
- 3:29stagnant. Now following through on the
- 3:32other hand is when is more focused is when you're talking
- 3:36to someone. Both of you agree this is the
- 3:38next step so that when you call, you're calling to say bro, how
- 3:41far? Now we agreed that the next
- 3:44stages, you and me was supposed to go to Umua here and go and do
- 3:47side visit. So how far are we travelling or
- 3:50not? When are we moving?
- 3:53Is he 8 or is he 10? That is follow through.
- 3:57Now follow through. On the other hand, when you're
- 4:02able to achieve a concrete follow through call, everybody's
- 4:07happy. Your wife will be happy because
- 4:09even though 20 million has not entered the house account, she
- 4:12can see that there's light at the end of the tunnel that one
- 4:16day the 20 M we do bring him inside the account.
- 4:20So that's the difference between follow up and follow through.
- 4:24Follow up is pointless. That's the reason why you're
- 4:26frustrated. That's the reason why Abdul is
- 4:28asking this question. That's the reason why Jackson
- 4:30asked me that question. The real estate professional who
- 4:32called on the radio show, and that's also the reason why Lucia
- 4:36asked me this question, because we're all frustrated.
- 4:38It was the call for the sake of calling.
- 4:40Are we going forward? We don't know.
- 4:41Are we going backward? You don't know.
- 4:43You check your call list. Last week you called the person
- 4:456 times. This week you've already called
- 4:47the person 7 times. Where are we going?
- 4:51We don't know. That's follow up.
- 4:53Follow through is focused. At the last call, we agreed this
- 4:57is the next step. The reason why I'm calling you
- 4:59now is to pursue this next step. If you don't answer, excuse me.
- 5:03Sorry, Excuse me. So if a person doesn't answer, I
- 5:08will now drop a text message and the flow of the text message
- 5:11will be simple, You know? Mr. Chukudi, what's up?
- 5:14Try calling number Busy. We agreed that we're supposed to
- 5:19move on Wednesday. So how far are we still good to
- 5:21go? That kind of thing.
- 5:24Besajukudu will respond. OK, well, we can't force anybody
- 5:28to respond, but Besajukudu will be likely to respond to that
- 5:31kind of thing. Ah, Bros.
- 5:33No Vex. Forgive me.
- 5:34My daughter is getting married. I totally forgot.
- 5:37I beg give me like 2 weeks. Let me arrange myself.
- 5:42So that kind of thing, it doesn't mean you will get the
- 5:46deal but you can see at least the next step forward.
- 5:50You can see you now know that you're going to enter into your
- 5:53CRM or enter into your calendar that OK bro Chukudi, Mazi
- 5:58Chukudi daughter is getting married.
- 6:00He asked for two weeks. You now schedule that.
- 6:02You call him back in three weeks time.
- 6:04You know what the next step is? Mazi Chukudi knows what the next
- 6:07step is. That is what we call
- 6:09advancements. So Nigerians, let us stop
- 6:12playing this follow up game. You're frustrating yourself and
- 6:16you are annoying that person. In fact, the other person, after
- 6:20a while, the person feeling I'll block you straight, three weeks,
- 6:25you're buzzing somebody, the person is not answering.
- 6:27What do you think? At some point the person will
- 6:29block you. Now when the person blocks you,
- 6:31it's even worse for you because now your number will now be
- 6:35registering on Truecaller and what else?
- 6:39You know all the telephone networks, you know, as if you're
- 6:42as if you're spam. That's the thing that leads to
- 6:46the situation where you call somebody and then they say 7
- 6:49people reported you as ma'am. Look, this thing happens.
- 6:51It's live. I know you should say it as a
- 6:54joke before on the podcast, but I've seen it happen.
- 6:57This year I was working with someone in the solar space.
- 7:00Person was brand new. After one month of calling, he
- 7:05decided to call his younger sister.
- 7:07This is a Saha. What's happening to say was and
- 7:09what do you mean they said the number you're calling from it
- 7:12says seven people have reported as spam.
- 7:15That is what happens. So let's stop playing this
- 7:17follow up game. Let us make sure we're securing
- 7:20advancements. People, either people who answer
- 7:25are more likely to answer us. Even if they want to ignore us,
- 7:30at the very least they won't mark us as spam.
- 7:32They won't do blocking. So that's first thing for Abdul.
- 7:37No follow up. In this podcasting family, we
- 7:41only follow through. All things I've agreed of
- 7:43before. Agreed about before.
- 7:46Now let's look at some best practices when it comes to
- 7:50follow up or follow through to keep things simple.
- 7:55You know what, let me never say follow up at all.
- 7:57So let's look at best practices for following through #1 speed
- 8:01to lead, Speed to lead. Yeah.
- 8:04What this means is how will I put it all?
- 8:10I put this thing now. OK boys, while listening,
- 8:12remember how when we're in secondary school, you see a girl
- 8:16that you like a boss a day and then your friend Cooley also
- 8:19likes a boss a day. You know the competition is on
- 8:24at the end of the day, you know is who's going to make a first
- 8:27impression. It's a competition.
- 8:30So Cooley normally is your friend, but our boss a day is a
- 8:33correct babe, and you won't have to be your babe.
- 8:35That's what speed to lead means. Quick, quick, quick, quick,
- 8:38quick. The first man wins.
- 8:43That is what speed the lead means.
- 8:45When we have a contact, we're trying to see who is the fastest
- 8:49person to reach out and initiate contact with that person.
- 8:55The same in relationships, also the same in business.
- 8:59What did they say? The oh, they say the patient dog
- 9:03is the fattest bone. That's not true.
- 9:05It's a lie. You have to be a sharp dog,
- 9:09whether in romance or whether in business, you have to be sharp
- 9:12quick. Now, since I'm not a
- 9:16relationship coach, I can't tell you why it works in
- 9:18relationships, but This is why it works in business.
- 9:21There's a dynamic that is called peak interest.
- 9:24Peak interest just means whenever people are thinking
- 9:26about something, you know, there's a time when the desire
- 9:29is high. After a while, the desire just
- 9:32cools off. So remember last episode I was
- 9:36talking about how I've been looking at this beast, Tesla
- 9:42Cybertruck beast of a car 200 M between 175,000,000 and 200
- 9:49million. That's the that's the cost.
- 9:51So right now that thing is shaking me is in my blood now
- 9:55peak interest is high now. But first, I don't have money,
- 10:00but just assume that you know, I had money and maybe there are
- 10:05two or three dealers in Abuja that have Tesla cyber truck, the
- 10:11person that is on the case on the ball.
- 10:13Quick, quick. Is the person who is most likely
- 10:16to close the deal because of this dynamic of peak interest
- 10:22because now body day hot body is hot cyber truck that's not want
- 10:28to drive all of you be driving Toyota and they are just pull up
- 10:31in a futuristic looking car. AC tight tinted as hell.
- 10:37You can't see my face electric very quiet zero to 100 in like 2
- 10:43seconds. You can't catch me on the road.
- 10:45Once I press the throttle you won't hear anything.
- 10:48I just pressed the couch. Just do I'll just be driving
- 10:52like that. You see me moving like hot
- 10:55butter slicing through a knife as if I'm just flying you now
- 11:00being your Toyota looking at me be saying ha God when that's
- 11:05what we call peak interest body they hot now now now, now now
- 11:10the person is interested. That is what peak interest
- 11:13means. Now unfortunately peak interest
- 11:17it goes down over time. So let's assume now that I have
- 11:21cash 200 M and I'm ready to buy this car.
- 11:26But then let's say my younger daughter is about to get married
- 11:29and then my wife says, look, babe, instead of wasting 200 M
- 11:33on this car, let's focus on our daughter's wedding.
- 11:37And I say, my dear, you know what?
- 11:39You actually are correct. You know, it makes sense.
- 11:42You can see now that from peak interest, the desire is
- 11:46beginning to go down. The desire is waning.
- 11:49This is what happens in business context.
- 11:52This peak interest over time it goes down if you respond.
- 11:57Quick, quick. You stand the chance of catching
- 12:02the person and keeping the priority on course and closing
- 12:05the deal. So if I have 200 M lying around
- 12:08now and there are five dealers of Teslas in Abuja, 2 of them
- 12:13are responding quick, quick and they're on my case, they stand a
- 12:16higher chance of keeping this a priority.
- 12:18And then for my daughter's wedding, the 200 million I need,
- 12:21I'll say, you know what? I'll find it another way.
- 12:25By the way, I don't have 200 million, so none of you should
- 12:28come out and ask me for money. If I have 200 them, I'll be
- 12:30making this podcast. So where was I?
- 12:34So that is one of the dynamics when it comes to speed to lead.
- 12:36So I never checked the time. Yeah.
- 12:39Because I have to be out of here soon.
- 12:42Where was I? So that's one of the best
- 12:45practices when it comes to follow up speed to lead.
- 12:47Quick, quick, quick. One of the dynamics is peak
- 12:51interest. Peak interest goes down over
- 12:53time. Now, another reason why it's a
- 12:55good idea to call people sharp, sharp is because when people
- 12:58reach out to you online or send you Adm or they come to the
- 13:02shop, you know the interaction is still fresh in their mind and
- 13:05it makes it easy for you to carry on the conversation.
- 13:08Picture this back to the Tesla something the person who calls
- 13:14me, let's say in one hour, let's say I go to one shop.
- 13:18I look at the Tesla, I sit inside, I Rev it and I say I
- 13:21don't like you quiet and I put it on noise more directly.
- 13:24Boom, boom, boom. I say, you know, I feel in the
- 13:27car and then I say I want to buy.
- 13:29Where's your gas or guys not around.
- 13:31I say, what's the price? You know, we talk blah, blah
- 13:33blah. And I say, OK, you know what,
- 13:35I'll come back. I just leave.
- 13:36Now, of course, if the salesperson is shop, they'll
- 13:38collect my phone number and keep so that when our guy comes back,
- 13:41they'll say, ah, OK. There was one guy that came,
- 13:45fine boy, skin looking smooth, Potbelly, you know, guy looks
- 13:49large, looks as if the guy has money.
- 13:51OK, let's call this guy. I think this guy's ready to buy.
- 13:54So if the dealer now calls me and says hello, my name is
- 13:59Conley, He just left the Coley automobile and I'll be saying
- 14:03Coley, Coley, Coley. Yeah, 5 minutes ago you just
- 14:06came to try the Tesla say, Oh yes, I heard that Tesla shopping
- 14:09would say to Abby. So yes, yes, Sir.
- 14:12You see how that conversation goes?
- 14:14Because he called me within like 5 minutes and let's pretend he
- 14:18calls back in two months. Say hello, this is Kole.
- 14:23Kole who Kole Automobiles based in Abuja, based anywhere.
- 14:27I've never had that company before.
- 14:29You came and tried out the Tesla.
- 14:31Is it me? I tried out Tesla.
- 14:33Yes Sir, you did. And I said oh OK.
- 14:35Well you know, a few months ago I tried out some Teslas, but I
- 14:39think I tried it like four or five, I can't really remember
- 14:41which one. Which of those companies are
- 14:43you? Can you see that the
- 14:45conversation is starting off on a not too good note?
- 14:48So that's also another reason why I speed the lead.
- 14:51It's important. Sharp, sharp.
- 14:52The memory is still there. You can pick up the conversation
- 14:57on a very good note and say, hey, this is so, so and so You
- 15:01came by my store. You went by my website 2 days
- 15:04ago concerning blah, blah, blah. Do you remember?
- 15:06Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, I do. So concerning this that that
- 15:10that we have a meeting. Can I come over to your shop?
- 15:12Would you like to look at samples, the conversation with
- 15:14your flow because speed to lead. Quick, quick, quick.
- 15:20Then speed lead, it also gives you a competitive advantage.
- 15:25You know, because of all these dynamics, the person who calls 5
- 15:29minutes, remember the Tesla example, and then the person who
- 15:32calls two months, who do you think has the advantage?
- 15:36The guy that called 5 minutes, The guy is still fresh, fresh in
- 15:38mind. The one that called after two
- 15:41months. I mean, you guys reason it now.
- 15:45So there's also another reason why when it comes to following
- 15:48through. Quick, quick, quick.
- 15:50Speed to lead is giving you a competitive advantage.
- 15:54This is dynamic. That is called recency as in the
- 15:56one that happened recently, you remember.
- 15:58So for those of you who have boyfriend and girlfriend or
- 16:01wife, if I ask you was the query you had with your wife last
- 16:03week, you can remember. Was the query you had with your
- 16:05wife two years ago, you have absolutely no idea because now I
- 16:09don't pass. But the recent one, you remember
- 16:13the slap I give you today, you remember it.
- 16:14The slap that I gave you six months ago, you won't remember.
- 16:17It is one of those things accepted one I gave you 6 months
- 16:20ago as a destiny changing slap. Yeah.
- 16:23Then you remember that one. By the way, on this podcast, we
- 16:26don't slap anybody. We're all gentlemen here.
- 16:29So it gives you a competitive advantage when you do speed to
- 16:31lead because of recency. And The funny thing is for
- 16:35people who respond quick, quick, especially since we're in
- 16:39Nigeria, people who respond quick, they just say, ah, this
- 16:42guy, they're responsive, they're reliable, they are professional.
- 16:48So, especially in the Nigerian context, I beg.
- 16:51Quick, quick. Quick, people will think you are
- 16:54professional. Now some of you want to quarrel.
- 16:59I'm ready for you. For those of you who disagree,
- 17:01let's look at some statistics and then I will stop here
- 17:05because I really got to leave. My wife will call me now
- 17:07because, yeah, I was supposed to go somewhere in the West, you
- 17:12know, North America, UK, you know, different people.
- 17:15But this is just some averages. Anyway, verify this information
- 17:19by yourself. So these are the stats in the
- 17:24West. They say that people who respond
- 17:26within 5 minutes are 21% more likely to make the final cut.
- 17:32I repeat, if you call within 5 minutes, you're 21% more likely
- 17:37to make the final cut. This is what it means,
- 17:40especially in Niger. Anybody who calls you is talking
- 17:43to two or three people. If I'm ready to buy Tesla
- 17:47Cybertruck, I can assure you I'm not just going to go and buy the
- 17:50first Cybertruck that I see. How am I mad?
- 17:54I will contact two or three dealers, maybe even four or five
- 17:59and be doing my research and be playing them off against each
- 18:02other by the end of the day. When the time now comes for me
- 18:06to transfer that 200 M, you know, I'll have a court.
- 18:10I'll, you know, there'll be like 2-2 people that I'll be looking
- 18:13at like, you know, these are the top contenders.
- 18:16So to enter that top contender list is usually people who call
- 18:19within the 1st 5 minutes. For those of you who still want
- 18:24to quarrel, well, you can go ahead and quarrel, but you know,
- 18:27that's, that's at your own peril.
- 18:30We're talking about human behavior here.
- 18:32Unfortunately, this is just how it works.
- 18:34Back to that example that I gave in the beginning, you like
- 18:37Abbasidi. Kelly likes a boss a day whether
- 18:40you like it or not. If you sleep on it and Kelly
- 18:43moves 1st and Kelly is more persistent, they will invite you
- 18:47for their wedding and you'll be crying and you'll be saying but
- 18:49I'm a better guy than Kelly. How will a boss a day know?
- 18:52She didn't know that Kelly is the one that expressed interest.
- 18:55He's the one that moved quickly. He's the one that stayed on the
- 18:57case. He will marry her.
- 18:59Do we even call you to come and do godfather for one of the
- 19:01children inside you? You'll be crying, you'll be
- 19:03saying hi, this could have been my kids.
- 19:07Excuse me. All right, so another statistic.
- 19:14Remember, please verify these statistics.
- 19:16Don't just take it because you know I said it as gospel truth.
- 19:19And also remember that these are statistics in the West.
- 19:21Unfortunately, in Niger, we don't keep statistics on
- 19:25anything. So up to 78% of people buy from
- 19:30this first responder. So this is what it means.
- 19:33So let's say there are 100 of us in Abuja right now, the half 200
- 19:37M are ready to buy Cybertruck. The truth of the matter is this,
- 19:4178% of us who end up buying that Cybertruck will buy from the
- 19:45first person who responds. So if there are five dealers in
- 19:49Abuja, dealer ABCD but dealer A IS.
- 19:52Quick, quick, quick. The guy they move sharp sharp,
- 19:5678% of these deals are going to him.
- 20:00I don't have to be a prophet to tell you, that's just how it
- 20:03works. But if delay A is sleeping and
- 20:07delay E is the one who wouldn't move quick, quick, quick, sharp,
- 20:10sharp, sharp, 78% of those deals will go to him.
- 20:16So this is the difference that speed to lead makes.
- 20:19So if you will please stop sleeping, stop sleeping.
- 20:24If a contact comes within your purview today, within your sight
- 20:28today, please be on the ball move.
- 20:34If you're a car dealer, you come back.
- 20:37Your second said while you are away, 10 people came.
- 20:43You say I'm coming at the comp, go and buy fufu for me.
- 20:45Let me eat first. Don't eat that fufu.
- 20:49Let them buy the fufu and put it in the microwave.
- 20:52What you do is first of all, you tell your second that thank you
- 20:55very much, you're a very good sales associate and God bless
- 20:57you. Then you collect those numbers.
- 21:00You start calling those people back immediately as soon as you
- 21:03get in, after you've made those calls, you cannot wash your
- 21:06hand, IE fufu. So that's it.
- 21:10Like I said, I have to run because my wife and I have to go
- 21:13somewhere. So I will try and make a follow
- 21:18up episode later on in the day because there's still other
- 21:20things that we need to talk about for Abdul's question on
- 21:24how best to follow up or follow through with a contact.
- 21:28So if you've been having fun, you like these sorts of things,
- 21:30you like these sorts of issues, Remember, subscribe, Spotify,
- 21:34YouTube, Apple, I'm your host, Tavishy Mahagiri.
- 21:37To get in touch with me, call, send me a text message via
- 21:39WhatsApp message on 08064662140. Let me and my wife go and do our
- 21:46pearls. When we get back, I'll see if I
- 21:48can record one more episode today.
- 21:51Excuse me, so that we can finish answering Abdul's question.
- 21:55And hopefully no matter what it is that you sell, whether you
- 21:58sell Teslas or you sell truck heads or you sell real estate or
- 22:01you sell Ankara or you're waiting photographer or you do
- 22:04video or you're an export, hopefully you learn one or two
- 22:08things to move your business forward.
- 22:09So thanks for listening. I'll catch you guys soon.