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Why Men Nowadays Don't Know That Drive Drops For Men After The Honeymoon Stage And With Age · The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten

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  Hi everybody and welcome to the Doctor Psych Mom show.
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  Today we are going to be talking about how obviously drive also
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  drops for men in monogamy. And the men who don't think that
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  is real and why, and the various sociological changes that have
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  transpired over the years that would explain how men could deny
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  something that is biologically obvious.
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  reasons I could talk about this, probably for like 7 months, you
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  know, instead of 20 minutes. But there are so many reasons
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  why guys deny the fact that drive drops.
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  We're just going to go through a few.
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  First of all, I've discussed repeatedly that porn fluffs your
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  sex drive up, and when I've worked with guys and they go off
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  of porn, they are shocked. They're shocked that I was
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  right. Which is surprising in and of
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  itself, because I'm usually right, but they're shocked by by
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  how much they stop thinking about sex.
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  And guys in previous generations, even just the 90s,
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  like literally just before Internet porn.
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  Remember married with children? There's no married with Children
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  now because all guys are telling themselves that they want to
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  screw anything that moves, especially their wife.
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  It used to be a known thing in every generation that a man got
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  sick of screwing the same woman all the time.
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  That was just beyond obvious. It's called the Coolidge effect.
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  And in fact, you know what, I'll I'll actually, I'll I'll read
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  you the story of the Coolidge effect.
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  So this is right from Wikipedia. Behavioral endocrinologist Frank
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  A. Beach claims in a 1974 letter to
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  have introduced the term Coolidge effect in either 1958
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  or 1959. He attributed it to an old joke
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  about Calvin Coolidge when he was president.
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  The President and Missus Coolidge were being shown
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  separately around an experimental government farm.
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  When Missus Coolidge came to the chicken yard, she noticed that a
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  rooster was mating very frequently.
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  She asked the attendant how often that happened and was told
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  dozens of times each day. Missus Coolidge said tell that
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  to the president when he comes by.
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  Upon being told, the president asked same hen every time.
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  The reply was, Oh no, Mr. President, a different hen every
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  time, President. Tell that to Mrs. Coolidge.
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  OK, so the the real definition, the biological definition, is an
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  increase in sexual responsiveness and a shortening
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  of the refractory period. The evolutionary benefit to this
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  phenomenon is that a male can fertilize multiple females and
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  may be reinvigorated repeatedly for successful insemination of
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  multiple females. This type of mating system can
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  be referred to as polygamy, where one male has multiple
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  female mates, but each female mates with only one or a few
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  males. This Coolidge effect of the
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  shortening of the refractory period that I just described
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  with a new female has been demonstrated to occur in humans
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  across cultures and both sexes and also in other animals, by
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  the way. So that's right from the
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  Wikipedia page on the Coolidge effect.
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  The point is, this used to be known.
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  This was jokes. Guys were the ones who were
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  supposed to be sick of monogamy, right?
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  Guys. You know, women were obviously
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  so obviously, there's so many other pieces.
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  But women were having sex within marriage.
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  That was part of the marital contract.
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  You didn't stop having sex with your husband, even if you didn't
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  really want to. Of course, if you're in a loving
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  relationship, no man is going to pressure his wife into sex.
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  Some women just, especially if they were religious and could
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  not use birth control, therefore, and their body was
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  destroyed after having all these multiple kids and it would hurt
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  them. That's when they moved into
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  separate bedrooms, right? At that point, many men found
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  another female right a mistress. People used to cheat a lot more.
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  It used to be understood that men, at least, would cheat a lot
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  more, and that most men would not stay faithful right now.
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  Now, like in that situation, if the woman cut them off of sex,
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  some men did, right and they just there was no Internet porn.
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  So they just kind of their sex drive was, you know, a a chore
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  is something they wish would go away.
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  But it wasn't this sort of massive fluffed sex drive in an
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  older man that people have now because there wasn't the
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  Internet porn. There also wasn't testosterone
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  replacement therapy, which we will discuss soon.
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  So yeah, he wished they were still having sex, but you know,
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  if he was the guy that wasn't going to cheat, then that was
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  just that. Life sucks, you know, Like, you
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  know, things are hard. Life spans were shorter, you
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  know, and people struggled more with all sorts of illnesses.
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  There weren't all the advances nowadays, and we'll get to that.
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  You know, that they have nowadays.
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  And there were more religious people.
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  You know, you go to church, you take care of your kids, you
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  work. If you can't have sex anymore,
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  you can't have sex anymore. You should speak to older people
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  about this. You know, 'cause guys were
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  really in two camps. The ones that would have gotten
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  a mistress and the ones that would have just not had sex
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  anymore if their wife couldn't couldn't have sex.
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  Next right we we come to the fact that now we do have
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  Internet porn and it fluffs guys up so much they think that
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  everybody is having this crazy sex life except for them.
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  And if you look at porn every day and it bombards these images
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  of women doing whatever you want into your mind that you can
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  never find anywhere in the natural universe, never.
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  No man is going to walk into a room with 100 women waiting to
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  do whatever he wants to do. These are, you know, fantasies.
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  That's not real. And there is nothing in your
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  actual brain that can replicate Internet porn.
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  It's like saying like, can exercise replicate cocaine?
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  No, it can't. You know, so it's like a drug in
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  your brain. When people go off of it,
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  they're shocked by how little they think about sex and what
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  their what they thought their base sex drive was plummet,
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  'cause it's being artificially fluffed, right?
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  And so therefore, and also cheating has become like the
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  worst thing in the whole world. You know, like people are
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  supposed to get everything out of their partner.
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  They're supposed to be soulmate, best friend, you know, just
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  every single thing in the world. You could read this the new the
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  It's a book by Eli J Finkel, The All or Nothing Marriage, and it
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  talks about how nowadays the partner's supposed to be
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  literally everything was never like that.
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  So if we go back to previous generations, so few people said
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  my partner's my best friend, you had a best friend of the same
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  gender. You could even see this if you
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  go back to TV shows in like the 90s or something.
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  The woman had a group of friends, the guy had a group of
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  friends, you know, and that's that.
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  Those people were actually characters on the show versus
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  Now you got like a lot of shows that are literally just about a
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  couple. Pretty much.
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  But the the the point B and about their kids.
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  Of course, because people are now more obsessed with their
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  kids, child centered, they won't get together with their friends.
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  They'll just have a group chat, and instead they'll just focus
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  on like the child's 15 baseball games that week or whatever the
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  case may be. So the point is, is people are
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  supposed to be everything to each other.
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  You're not supposed to cheat. Advances in medicine have made
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  it so that you're living a very long time, for sure.
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  But at least you think that, you know, as as you're going through
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  your life, everybody expects to live longer than they used to,
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  and you are. And the guys are fluffing
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  themselves up with Internet porn.
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  And the women are still the same people, right?
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  Except that they refuse to think that the marriage that there
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  should be a sexual marital contract, at least more liberal
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  women. They I do, of course, think that
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  sex is part of marriage, and I talk about that all over.
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  I even have a podcast about, yes, there should be a sexual
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  marital contract. But anyway, So what we have is a
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  guy who's fluffed up beyond reason because he looks at porn
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  all the time in a medium that was never delivered before.
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  So he's not actually monogamous. His brain doesn't think he's
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  monogamous. His brain is seeing multiple
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  naked women all the time, like the rooster in the yard and the
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  Coolidge effect. His penis may be monogamous, but
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  his brain is not. He's looking at all these women.
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  I'm not saying it's a moral referendum.
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  He's not actually cheating, but he's fluffing up his brain like
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  he's a man who screws 100 women a day.
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  That is a man who has a pretty fucking high sex drive, right?
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  He needs to, you know? And that's what you're You're
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  tricking your brain into doing that there's something called
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  mirror neurons, and the same things activate in your brain
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  when you watch somebody doing something as when you do it
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  yourself. That's how people learn through
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  observational learning. So if you're watching some guy
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  you know screw a woman, it's like you're screwing that woman.
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  That's what your brain does. It screws that woman virtually.
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  And so your sex drive is at 1,000,000 because you are a guy
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  who's virtually screwing many, many women all the time.
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  And then your wife. Even if now there are cases, of
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  course, many cases where the woman still wants to have sex,
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  you know, regularly a couple times a week or something.
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  But the guys that are addicted to porn, which is almost
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  everybody that uses it and gets some level of of this, everybody
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  who uses it gets some level of this uptick in sex drive, you
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  know. So it doesn't matter.
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  Using an hour a day, you're using a 15 minutes a day.
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  If you're using it regularly, then you're basically creating
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  this fluffing effect, right. So then the stuff that she wants
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  to do no longer seems so palatable.
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  For example, in the 50s guys did not think that their wife was
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  going to give them oral sex. Like that was like something
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  that you get in a whorehouse, you know, like your nice wife is
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  going to have missionary style sex with you.
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  You know, it was a huge thing, a huge change.
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  And like you know, the the free love for people to have, you
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  know, oral sex at all, you know, in the generation that came
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  after the 50s. But if we go back to the men in
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  the 50s, when the Coolidge effect was they didn't have the
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  Internet porn, They didn't expect their wives to do crazy
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  shit in bed, and their wives expected that they were going to
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  have sex when the guy wanted to, you know, And not to say they
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  couldn't enjoy it, plenty of women enjoyed sex.
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  But that wasn't really the point.
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  The point was that this is a marital duty.
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  Then if you add in the testosterone replacement
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  therapy, my God. So then there's a lot of guys
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  who need it. Sure.
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  You got very low levels of testosterone.
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  You got brain fog. You got like all these, your
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  weight gain and your drive is low and all of these things.
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  Right. So you go to it, go get your
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  testosterone replacement. I nothing to me, you know.
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  So the point is, though, that there are many men who are not
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  just remediating A deficit but who have normal levels, pretty
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  normal levels, and of course, everything's within a range.
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  So if they're not at the top, top of what the normal range is,
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  then in these hormone clinics they get pretty much any level
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  that they want. You know, and you have clients
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  like this. I got people that I talked to in
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  my in my group and just just this is a thing.
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  So and it's not it makes you aggressive and it makes you want
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  more and more and more sex. You know, a guy with a who's 70
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  is not supposed to have the testosterone levels of a guy
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  who's 20. And when they do, then they are
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  obviously a huge problem in their marriage because they have
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  basically done that Twilight Zone episode where I think I've
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  mentioned this one before where the the couple only had enough
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  money for one of them to go, you know, get their old young body
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  back. So they picked him because he
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  had such bad back pain. He came out, he was 25 years
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  old, and he's like clicking his heels and he feels great.
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  But then he sees her and, you know, she just looks so
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  shattered. First she's very happy, but then
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  she touches her own face and she's like, shattered.
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  She knows they won't stay together.
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  She knows that they're not a good fit anymore.
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  And then he realizes it too. And in The Twilight Zone, which
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  was made in the 50s and 60s, you know, they they had the, the,
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  the end of that episode. Sorry for the spoiler.
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  But the end of that episode was that he went back and had it
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  reversed. And then they, you know, walked
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  off as well as he could walk with his cane.
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  They walked off into the sunset together, right.
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  So that was the message that they wanted to give.
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  You know, nowadays most people would say fuck her, man.
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  Get a New Girl. You're living your best life,
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  dude, you know? And that is not where I'm coming
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  from because I work with couples on their marriages.
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  So sometimes guys say then like if you don't believe in
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  optimizing your testosterone, again, it's cool to get
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  something remediated. That's a deficit, right?
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  But when you're bringing yourself up, specifically saying
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  things and bragging that I have the testosterone level of a 20
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  year old guy, you know, and I can lift like this tremendous
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  amount of weight and I want to fuck, you know, three times a
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  day, come on, you know, how's that going to be good for the
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  marriage? So some then guys are like, oh,
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  should I not take insulin then if I'm diabetic or should I not
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  take a heart medication if I have a heart problem?
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  Well, unless your marriage is very bad, real bad, then your
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  wife does want you to take insulin or heart meds because
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  otherwise you'd be dead. So in fact, that makes the
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  relationship better, not worse. I also do an analogy.
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  I say, So what if a woman talks a lot?
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  She talks so much. The guy's not very verbal and
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  it's it's already a problem that she talks so much more than him
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  and they can't come to terms with it.
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  But you know what? She just likes to talk, and she
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  wants to take a stimulant, you know, and she that stimulant
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  will make her talk even more. Should she take it even though
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  she really, really likes talking?
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  No. That would be bad for her
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  marriage, for him to have to listen to twice the talking,
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  right. They're already not doing so
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  well, You know, Why would she exacerbate the difference
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  between that? Obviously, that would be quite
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  bad for the marriage. So you know what?
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  What you got to think about is all of these variables together.
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  Not everybody does. All of them, Right.
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  But I'm saying there's there is. Oh, and of course there are all
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  of the advances in medical technology not limited to
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  testosterone replacement, certainly.
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  And and so people think that they should somehow live their,
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  quote, best life all the time in every which way that age is just
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  a number and that, you know, you could basically, you know, be
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  the same age until you're dead and dead.
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  I mean that is a bad word now. I mean it's very secular world,
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  you know, and people no longer think that there will be a much
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  afterwards. And many, some people let that
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  really screw their heads and they try to basically live
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  forever. And that just doesn't happen.
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  And I have podcasts on the Age is Not Just a Number and why
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  people hate aging more and more. Those are the titles of those.
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  So you end up with people who basically aren't allowed to
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  cheat in their own mind. You know, they fluff themselves
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  up so that they have the minds of a man who's screwing 100
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  women, but they're not. The wife no longer really thinks
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  that she should, that she needs to be having sex when she
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  doesn't want to and doesn't know anything about responsive
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  desire, so therefore doesn't understand that If she tries,
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  she may want to. You know, in the early stages,
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  if the guy's watching that much pour and then the things that he
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  wants to do are coming off aggressive and extreme, that
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  certainly does happen. Some of this is amplified by
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  effects of unneeded extra testosterone supplementation,
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  but not in all people, certainly.
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  And then you end up with this perfect storm, right, this
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  perfect storm for guys to say that they do not understand why
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  their wife's Dr. decreases. Well of course they don't.
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  They they will understand it pretty quick if they stop all
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  the porn and any extra supplementation beyond what
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  would remediate them, You know, I mean they would understand it
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  pretty quick and they do, they do understand that.
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  But it's a lot, you know, more comfortable to complain about
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  your sex drive disparity than it is to actually work on your
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  relationship on a deeper level in all areas, sex being one of
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  the areas. So there's a lot of guys out
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  there that are saying they don't understand why their sex why sex
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  drive drops and and that's the whole reason behind their
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  marriage being bad. I think a lack of empathy in
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  that case is is the reason. Because if you literally cannot
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  understand how a mammal would age like, I mean, I have a
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  million podcasts about this and if you want to experientially
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  learn it, just go off the porn. And also, let's point out the
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  obvious, there's plenty of guys who think they could do it 3 * a
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  night because they could jerk off with porn and unlimited
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  visual stimulation three times a day or night or whatever.
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  But nobody's actually testing that out.
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  They're not testing out having sex with their wife three times
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  in the night, and many of those guys go on vacation.
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  And if they could do it twice in a day, the next day they're
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  destroyed, you know, because they just can't, can't do it
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  again because that's literally how their body works and they
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  can usually not come multiple times in a day anymore, you
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  know, without excessive help. This is when I tell people I say
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  that's cool, masturbate, just masturbate, Analogue.
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  Don't use porn. And most of them come back and
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  they're like, that shit was so boring, I can't even do it.
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  And I'm like, well, that's what your literal job was.
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  Because when you were 18 years old, you could think about like,
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  you know, like a girl's smile and jerk off, you know,
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  successfully, quickly. And now you can't, you know,
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  because that's aging. So when one partner says to
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  another, I can't understand why XYZ biological phenomenon
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  happened. It used to be an understood
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  thing, as I said, with the Coolidge effect, you know, it
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  used to be understood men get bored within monogamy.
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  That was because they didn't have this, this, this harem
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  online, you know, to keep them fluffed up all the time.
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  So you know, and it's not like it's a moral thing.
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  Of course some porn is quite unethical and that is a moral
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  problem. But if you are, you know,
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  single, you could watch all the porn you want.
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  But if your relationship isn't going well, and it doesn't go
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  well for you to do that, it doesn't go well for you to do
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  anything. That makes you less empathic and
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  less understand where an aging partner is going.
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  You know like how how they are experiencing the world and
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  you're not allowing yourself to experience, to experience it
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  because of these these ideas that your life has to be
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  perfect. You only have one option.
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  So she can never age because you never want to age.
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  So if your wife acts old in any way, then that makes you feel
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  old and then that makes yourself feel.
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  You know that you don't feel as good about yourself because you
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  want a free lunch. And that's what I'm always
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  saying you can't have is a free lunch.
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  Nobody can. So you know that that is what it
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  is, and that is my my my thoughts about this topic in as
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  condensed a form as I can get it is that of course you would
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  understand your wife's decrease in drive.
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  Men used to have a decrease in drive as well.
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  But if you're if you are making things different for yourself,
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  you know by by artificially priming yourself constantly,
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  then you're going to say you don't understand it.
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  And also people that are less secure, people that are late
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  bloomers, people that feel that they never got enough, you know,
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  sex life in when they were young and now they're being told that
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  yes, like all animals, they are aging and the lifespan is finite
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  and sex hormones decrease over time.
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  They don't like that. They they want to think that
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  somehow they can do all of the exploring that they ever did now
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  that they're married and they're 50 years old, 40 years old.
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  They want it to be like being single at 20 years old.
• 20:16
  I'm confident. How, how, how would it be?
• 20:18
  It's just not like that. So that's, it can't be like
• 20:20
  that. And if you struggle a lot with
• 20:24
  feelings of aging, of mortality, of resentment to your wife, of
• 20:30
  of if your wife is like nothing is enough for you, you're
• 20:33
  obsessed with this. You know, some of them are
• 20:36
  right. Some of them are wrong.
• 20:38
  And I've talked a lot about the differences between a man who's
• 20:41
  a sex addict and a man who's not, you know?
• 20:44
  But that doesn't mean that there aren't people who are truly
• 20:48
  never happy with what they get and who are not truly asking for
• 20:51
  more extreme things than an average woman would give.
• 20:56
  You know? And if you talk to somebody,
• 20:59
  then that can help you level, set and calibrate.
• 21:01
  Oh, my expectations are at this place on the normal
• 21:05
  distribution, whereas I thought they were right in the middle,
• 21:08
  you know? And some of y'all's are not.
• 21:11
  And there are myriad reasons why not.
• 21:14
  But before you spend the money on therapy, many of you can try
• 21:18
  going off porn, you know, or whatever or whatever, like super
• 21:23
  optimization maximization dosages you're on of of
• 21:27
  testosterone could be discussed with a doctor, because a lot of
• 21:31
  people you know and I have friends or doctors, right?
• 21:35
  And this is, you know, people do not always report things
• 21:40
  accurately to doctors if they like the effect.
• 21:43
  So for example, if you're on Adderall and it makes you do
• 21:46
  like 7 times the amount of work that you could usually do, but
• 21:49
  also your wife says you're unbearable to be around, a lot
• 21:53
  of people may not say that last part to the psychiatrist.
• 21:56
  They'll only say the first part, that they're super productive
• 21:59
  because they want to get the substance.
• 22:01
  And that's not like that. That's just normal.
• 22:03
  That's just like a normal, human way to be.
• 22:06
  So a lot of people are not coming in to the clinic and
• 22:09
  saying actually, like, my huge uptick in sex drive is causing
• 22:14
  problems at home. And my wife says I've turned
• 22:16
  into a sex addict. They're not saying that part.
• 22:19
  They're saying, man, I feel like I'm living my best life.
• 22:21
  Let's keep it how it is, you know?
• 22:23
  So think deeply about that and obviously talk to your medical
• 22:26
  doctor. I report on what I see in my
• 22:29
  practice as a PhD, as a a clinical psychologist.
• 22:34
  Always talk to your doctor about anything physical.
• 22:37
  And just for the guys who get ironically super aggressive on
• 22:41
  my Facebook page defending the TRT that they're on, this is not
• 22:45
  about remediation. This is about the guys that are
• 22:48
  saying my testosterone's at a 1200, you know, and I'm like 50,
• 22:53
  you know it. It's like come on.
• 22:55
  So, all right, I will talk to everybody soon.
• 22:58
  Have a great day guys. Bye, bye.