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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud Order
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- 0:33Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
- 0:34Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money.
- 0:57Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money Podcast. Millennials
- 1:01Speaker 4: who want financial freedom. Even if you don't have a
- 1:04Speaker 4: Netflix account, you have probably already heard of America's Sweethearts
- 1:08Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. It's the number one series in Australia
- 1:13Speaker 4: right now and has been for a while.
- 1:15Speaker 2: The show follows the lives.
- 1:16Speaker 4: And the progress of new cheerleading recruits for the American
- 1:19Speaker 4: football team, the Dallas Cowboys, and it's got a lot
- 1:22Speaker 4: of people talking. Despite having their fair share of controversy
- 1:26Speaker 4: from sexual assault to age theft. They've had some of
- 1:29Speaker 4: the biggest scandals in the cheerleading industry. And despite being
- 1:32Speaker 4: exposed to the sexist, misogynistic, outdated, and highly problematic world
- 1:37Speaker 4: of the elite cheerleading organization that Dallas Cowboys is, it
- 1:41Speaker 4: honestly does set out to do exactly what it sets
- 1:44Speaker 4: out to do, sharing the emotions, the challenges and successes
- 1:48Speaker 4: of the industry. But for me, it brought up so
- 1:51Speaker 4: many infuriating thoughts and I'm here to have a chat
- 1:54Speaker 4: about why. So let's have a little bit of a
- 1:57Speaker 4: conversation about my main points of concern about the show.
- 2:01Speaker 4: And I don't think anyone is going to be surprised
- 2:03Speaker 4: that they're financial. They are incredibly talented, and these women
- 2:09Speaker 4: are at the very top of their industry. They have trained,
- 2:12Speaker 4: arguably their entire lives to earn minimum wage. Firstly, these
- 2:17Speaker 4: women are not paid what they are deserving of by
- 2:20Speaker 4: any stretch of the imagination. In fact, Kat on the
- 2:22Speaker 4: show If You Know You Know, said in twenty twenty
- 2:25Speaker 4: two that her salary was similar to a Chick fil
- 2:28Speaker 4: a worker who maybe works full time. This is generally
- 2:31Speaker 4: around twenty five grand year in America, which is about
- 2:35Speaker 4: thirty five thousand dollars Australian, which is absolutely disgraceful. The
- 2:39Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys are the most valuable football team in American football,
- 2:44Speaker 4: with a net worth of wait for it, nine billion
- 2:47Speaker 4: dollars this year, and they are the world's wealthiest sports team.
- 2:53Speaker 4: Let that sink in. Their cheerleaders are paid less than
- 2:57Speaker 4: a Chick fil A worker.
- 2:58Speaker 2: The majority of the player that play for.
- 3:00Speaker 4: The football team and people behind the scenes are millionaires
- 3:04Speaker 4: and the highest NFL players in the industry. They make
- 3:08Speaker 4: more than fifty million dollars a year, yet they're not
- 3:12Speaker 4: valuing their women. In fact, their team's mascot salary is
- 3:16Speaker 4: reported to be sixty five thousand dollars, more than double
- 3:19Speaker 4: what the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders are making. These women dedicate
- 3:23Speaker 4: their entire lives to dance education, including spending thousands on
- 3:28Speaker 4: ballet and jazz and gymnastics training, and when asked about
- 3:31Speaker 4: the DCC's low salaries, all the chief brand officer, Charlotte
- 3:35Speaker 4: Jones could offer was some speech about it being in
- 3:37Speaker 4: a sisterhood and how it's been that way since nineteen
- 3:40Speaker 4: seventy two.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Are you guys for real?
- 3:43Speaker 4: It wasn't until nineteen seventy four that women could get
- 3:46Speaker 4: a credit.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Card in their own name.
- 3:48Speaker 4: We learned from the first episode that these women are incredible,
- 3:52Speaker 4: having to undergo both physically and mentally challenging training and
- 3:55Speaker 4: recruitment processes while sustaining full time work as nurses, doctor orthodontists,
- 4:01Speaker 4: and accountants. The second thing I want to talk about
- 4:04Speaker 4: is their lack of diversity. Now, throughout the tryouts, we
- 4:07Speaker 4: see so many aspiring DC cheerleaders who are black and
- 4:11Speaker 4: brown being cut, and then they celebrate that a red
- 4:14Speaker 4: headed white dancer gets through and they call that a
- 4:17Speaker 4: sign of diversity. I mean, Charlie is lovely, but a
- 4:21Speaker 4: red headed white dancer who got through all of the
- 4:24Speaker 4: auditions is not a sign of diversity. Dallas is a
- 4:29Speaker 4: very ethnically diverse state in a country that has some
- 4:31Speaker 4: of the largest ethnic diversity in the entire world. Jackie Scott,
- 4:36Speaker 4: who is a former Dallas Cowboy cheerleader, has said before
- 4:39Speaker 4: that the standard of beauty in professional cheerleading is a
- 4:42Speaker 4: white European one, and in the years since she was
- 4:46Speaker 4: on the squad from twenty twelve to twenty sixteen, she
- 4:49Speaker 4: mentioned that she'd never felt comfortable to wear her natural hair.
- 4:53Speaker 4: She said, it never occurred to me that maybe I
- 4:55Speaker 4: could start over and rock my natural hair as a cheerleader,
- 4:58Speaker 4: because I never say it done. Instead, she wore her
- 5:02Speaker 4: hair relaxed, and when the heat did so much damage
- 5:05Speaker 4: that she experienced extensive breakage, the squad recommended she get extensions.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Cynthia L.
- 5:11Speaker 4: Robertson, PhD, an associate professor and chair of the Department
- 5:15Speaker 4: of Black Studies at the University of Nebraska Omaha, has
- 5:19Speaker 4: mentioned that black women get rid of their curls because
- 5:22Speaker 4: of white supremacy. People view straight hair, light skin, and
- 5:26Speaker 4: smaller noses as quote more beautiful. She's been quoted saying
- 5:30Speaker 4: black women since the plantation have had to alter their
- 5:33Speaker 4: hair in order to be accepted, and Robertson then said,
- 5:37Speaker 4: I would imagine that these cheerleaders know, without even being asked,
- 5:41Speaker 4: that they need to straighten their hair. When women are
- 5:44Speaker 4: auditioning for these professional cheerleading teams, former cheerleaders and dance
- 5:49Speaker 4: teachers usually advise them to model their look on what
- 5:52Speaker 4: they have already seen present in the team, and this
- 5:56Speaker 4: is especially true for black cheerleaders. In fact, Scott said,
- 6:00Speaker 4: you feel like there's only a certain number of spots
- 6:03Speaker 4: for the minority cheerleaders on a squad of roughly thirty six.
- 6:07Speaker 4: Scott was one of six black cheerleaders for two years,
- 6:11Speaker 4: and one of three black cheerleaders during her own two years.
- 6:15Speaker 4: She's been quoted saying, no one has ever.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Said this, It's just how we feel.
- 6:19Speaker 4: It's almost like we're competing against each other to get
- 6:22Speaker 4: that spot rather than embracing one another. You often look
- 6:25Speaker 4: at the who's who of the team and what they're like.
- 6:28Speaker 4: Clearly they like them and how they look. So I'm
- 6:31Speaker 4: going to try and just look like that so I
- 6:33Speaker 4: can show them that I can be part of their team,
- 6:36Speaker 4: which to me is not embracing diversity. And given the
- 6:40Speaker 4: DCC leader has been quoted in saying it's been the
- 6:43Speaker 4: same since nineteen seventy two, it's just part of the tradition,
- 6:47Speaker 4: I think it's time that tradition changes. All right, let's
- 6:50Speaker 4: move on from that, because I want to talk about
- 6:52Speaker 4: the conversations that they're having about women's bodies now. I
- 6:56Speaker 4: feel like I've had this conversation a number of times
- 6:58Speaker 4: on the podcast because it is really important to me
- 7:01Speaker 4: and our community, but also it's really topical this week
- 7:04Speaker 4: because research has just come out to say that.
- 7:07Speaker 2: Taylor Swift has had a very.
- 7:08Speaker 4: Positive impact on her fans' body image and diet culture.
- 7:12Speaker 4: So ten out of ten for the Swifty culture, but
- 7:15Speaker 4: one out of ten for the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. There's
- 7:19Speaker 4: honestly so much harm being done throughout this entire series
- 7:22Speaker 4: when it comes to the normalization of not just nasty
- 7:25Speaker 4: or unrealistic, but dangerous expectations they have on women's bodies.
- 7:30Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys have watched it, but
- 7:32Speaker 4: the way Victoria is treated, the way Victoria treats her body,
- 7:36Speaker 4: not me the cheerleader, is honestly disgusting. I feel so
- 7:40Speaker 4: bad and I want to scoop her up and give
- 7:42Speaker 4: her a hug, because she is crucified for having the
- 7:46Speaker 4: body she has, when in actual fact, to me, she
- 7:49Speaker 4: looks like a supermodel. Throughout the entire show, we see
- 7:53Speaker 4: skinny women being called curvy. The commonality of women experiencing
- 7:57Speaker 4: bodies asmorphia. They normalize not eating and it's expected that
- 8:02Speaker 4: they fit in the same uniform they get at the
- 8:05Speaker 4: start of the year for the entirety of the year.
- 8:08Speaker 4: They will not be reissued another uniform should their body
- 8:10Speaker 4: change for any reason. In an audition, round one male
- 8:14Speaker 4: judge was quoted as saying she has more weight on
- 8:17Speaker 4: her face compared to the year before. At this point,
- 8:20Speaker 4: we really have to ask ourselves how much damage is
- 8:23Speaker 4: being done by elevating these standards for women by putting
- 8:27Speaker 4: them on the telly. Let's go to a really quick break,
- 8:29Speaker 4: because if you thought that my rant was over, my friend,
- 8:32Speaker 4: you were wrong. Don't go anywhere. All right, guys, we
- 8:39Speaker 4: are back, and I don't know if you're as impressed
- 8:42Speaker 4: as I am with their high kick that goes straight
- 8:45Speaker 4: down into the splits. But there is evidence all the
- 8:48Speaker 4: way through the show that this is an unsafe working
- 8:51Speaker 4: environment for women in every single way. In fact, one
- 8:54Speaker 4: of the veterans is talking about having a hip replacement
- 8:57Speaker 4: but just wants to see out one more season before
- 9:00Speaker 4: having to go through such a traumatic surgery. In addition
- 9:04Speaker 4: to all of this, there are experiences of assault and
- 9:07Speaker 4: stalking by these women due to their job, alongside daily
- 9:11Speaker 4: objectification they experienced due to it. One of the things
- 9:14Speaker 4: that absolutely sent me was that they have no touch
- 9:18Speaker 4: policy for the cheerleaders when getting photos with fans. Right,
- 9:21Speaker 4: So that makes sense, like, obviously they are not there
- 9:24Speaker 4: to be touched by men. They are not there to
- 9:26Speaker 4: be touched by anybody. But throughout the entire series, when
- 9:30Speaker 4: we see the cheerleaders taking photos with fans, the DCC
- 9:34Speaker 4: team hand the men of football and there's a reason
- 9:37Speaker 4: for it, right, and it's absolutely messed up. It's to
- 9:40Speaker 4: prevent the fans or the men taking photos with them
- 9:43Speaker 4: from touching the women inappropriately. And we know that this
- 9:46Speaker 4: has come from experience, right. The football didn't just happen
- 9:49Speaker 4: because they questioned men. The football came because men were
- 9:53Speaker 4: taking advantage of the situation. In fact, in one episode,
- 9:57Speaker 4: a man says, well, getting a photo at a meet
- 10:00Speaker 4: and greet event with the girls, can I put an
- 10:02Speaker 4: arm around you? And a security guard promptly replies, hands
- 10:06Speaker 4: on the football. A security guard later adds that it's
- 10:09Speaker 4: a no touch policy and that they always bring footballs
- 10:12Speaker 4: with them because if a man doesn't get this, if
- 10:15Speaker 4: a man doesn't feel comfortable standing with his hands to
- 10:17Speaker 4: the front or the side, they give him the option
- 10:20Speaker 4: of holding the football, as though he wouldn't know what
- 10:23Speaker 4: to do with his hands apart from touch these women.
- 10:26Speaker 4: It gives me the biggest dick in the entire world,
- 10:29Speaker 4: and it takes some of the shine away from being
- 10:32Speaker 4: a cheerleader in this space. Are we remembering here that
- 10:35Speaker 4: they also get paid minimum wage. I don't know if
- 10:37Speaker 4: we need to go back to that. But not only
- 10:39Speaker 4: are they being put through these trials and tribulations, they're
- 10:42Speaker 4: literally being abused. They're in an unsafe work environment, and
- 10:46Speaker 4: they're expected to just be happy with minimum wage because
- 10:48Speaker 4: it's essentially all for the glory. On top of this,
- 10:51Speaker 4: these women are athletes and their work is physically dangerous
- 10:55Speaker 4: and damaging. If you watch the series, you know that
- 10:58Speaker 4: most cheerleaders after their seasons, after they retire, end up
- 11:02Speaker 4: having to get some type of reconstructive surgery. The team
- 11:06Speaker 4: doesn't provide them with any health insurance. The injuries that
- 11:10Speaker 4: the cheerleaders are left with are intense. We're talking things
- 11:13Speaker 4: like reconstructed hips, not just like a little torn acl
- 11:16Speaker 4: One of the retired veterans featured, so Caroline, for those
- 11:19Speaker 4: of you who follow the show, who is the older
- 11:22Speaker 4: sister of Anna Kate who gets through the audition process.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Don't worry.
- 11:26Speaker 4: She not only had to undergo one giant surgery, she
- 11:29Speaker 4: had to undergo two after she retired. During her last
- 11:34Speaker 4: year on the team, she found out she needed a
- 11:36Speaker 4: whole hip reconstruction surgery, but she chose to put it
- 11:39Speaker 4: off so that she could continued cheer for the team.
- 11:42Speaker 4: She later had to go into surgery for her left foot,
- 11:44Speaker 4: which left her wearing a moonboot to recover. None of
- 11:48Speaker 4: it was covered by the team, none of it was
- 11:50Speaker 4: covered by insurance, and she couldn't work the entire time.
- 11:54Speaker 4: Then there are the dreaded split jumps that every single
- 11:57Speaker 4: DCC member has to perform during the thunderstruct routine, which
- 12:01Speaker 4: causes permanent hip damage.
- 12:03Speaker 2: For most of them.
- 12:04Speaker 4: Look, the last thing I wanted to talk about is
- 12:06Speaker 4: the expectation that these women have to do their jobs
- 12:10Speaker 4: and be saints at the same time. These women are
- 12:13Speaker 4: expected to reach absolutely impossible body standards, be the absolute
- 12:18Speaker 4: best dancers in the entire world, have perfect hair, perfect makeup,
- 12:22Speaker 4: and they are also expected to be nice to everybody
- 12:25Speaker 4: at all times. They're meeting fans constantly, they're holding dance
- 12:29Speaker 4: sessions at nursing homes, they're visiting children in hospitals, and
- 12:32Speaker 4: then they're held to the unreachable moral standards and scolded
- 12:36Speaker 4: when they fall short. Excuse me, but this is her
- 12:39Speaker 4: literal job. She is working. She is learning more than
- 12:42Speaker 4: fifty routines for minimum wage. She doesn't owe thanks to anybody,
- 12:47Speaker 4: especially the director of the DCC or. I feel like
- 12:50Speaker 4: I've ranted far too much. But the fact that the
- 12:52Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys cheerleader team has not changed since nineteen seventy
- 12:56Speaker 4: two and all of this is just part of the
- 12:58Speaker 4: tradition and it's a privilege to be part of the
- 13:01Speaker 4: team has driven me insane, which is why we're having
- 13:04Speaker 4: this cute little Saturday rand.
- 13:05Speaker 2: But I will wrap it.
- 13:06Speaker 4: Up there because enough is enough. Don't get me wrong,
- 13:09Speaker 4: I enjoyed watching that show. I love a bit of drama.
- 13:12Speaker 4: You all know that my favorite show in the entire
- 13:14Speaker 4: world is The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. So
- 13:17Speaker 4: if that says anything about the type of content I
- 13:19Speaker 4: like to consume, please don't judge me. But at the
- 13:22Speaker 4: end of the day, I think we need to be
- 13:23Speaker 4: watching these shows with a really critical eye and a
- 13:27Speaker 4: really critical lens to make sure that we are not
- 13:29Speaker 4: normalizing these behaviors. They are absolutely disgusting, and I think
- 13:32Speaker 4: that while the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders show has been fantastic
- 13:36Speaker 4: to watch and clearly has been really engaging. It's cracked
- 13:39Speaker 4: open a conversation on just how problematic they are and
- 13:43Speaker 4: on how a lot of the expectations that are sexist, misogynistic,
- 13:46Speaker 4: outdated and highly problematic are put on not just the
- 13:50Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, but women.
- 13:52Speaker 2: As a whole. So guys, have a good Saturday.
- 13:54Speaker 4: I hope I haven't brought down the mood, but instead
- 13:57Speaker 4: found a heap of friends who are on the same
- 13:59Speaker 4: page as me.
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