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Brake Fluid On Tires And Other Bad Ideas; Auto History: Speakeasy's: Big Bad GMC EV! · In Wheel Time Podcast

• 0:08
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, well, you know, the trend of white letter tires gained significant momentum in the 60s and 70s, especially here in the U.S.
• 0:14
  Jeff Dziekan: of A.
• 0:14
  Jeff Dziekan: Muscle cars and street racing were becoming increasingly popular.
• 0:17
  Jeff Dziekan: White letter tires became synonymous with performance and style and coolness that we all had associated with high performance vehicles as well.
• 0:26
  Jeff Dziekan: White lettering on tires comes in two primary types, raised and painted.
• 0:29
  Jeff Dziekan: Each type has a distinct characteristics in manufacturing process.
• 0:33
  Jeff Dziekan: Raised white lettering is created during the manufacturing process itself.
• 0:37
  Jeff Dziekan: The letters are raised above the tire surface and are part of an integral portion of that sidewall.
• 0:42
  Jeff Dziekan: White lettering is typically made from white rubber.
• 0:45
  Jeff Dziekan: Rubber is actually kind of a cream color to begin with.
• 0:47
  Jeff Dziekan: It's a compound that is molded into the tire.
• 0:50
  Jeff Dziekan: Raised letters are known for their durability since it's part of the tire itself.
• 0:53
  Jeff Dziekan: Painted white lettering improves or involves applying white paint to the tire after it has been manufactured.
• 1:00
  Jeff Dziekan: The paint is applied to a desired area of the sidewall.
• 1:03
  Jeff Dziekan: We used to do that with a chalk, a crayon, uh fingernail polish.
• 1:05
  Jeff Dziekan: We used to do all kinds of stuff like that.
• 1:07
  Jeff Dziekan: Yes, we did.
• 1:08
  Jeff Dziekan: Requires more maintenance though.
• 1:10
  Jeff Dziekan: Both types have their advantages and are chosen based on specific needs and preferences of the vehicle and their owner.
• 1:16
  Jeff Dziekan: Raised white lettering, uh being more durable, is often preferred as the regular use, and painted white letters allows you more customization, is popular among the car enthusiasts who frequently change the aesthetics of their vehicle.
• 1:27
  Jeff Dziekan: The manufacturing process of white letter tires includes ORWL, which is outlined raised white letters, is intricate and requires precise techniques to ensure durability and the clarity of the lettering.
• 1:39
  Jeff Dziekan: No font distortion there.
• 1:42
  Jeff Dziekan: The process varies depending on what letter is being raised.
• 1:51
  Jeff Dziekan: The white rubber compound is inserted into the mold along with black rubber, and it's used for the rest of the tire.
• 1:56
  Jeff Dziekan: So that they're just injecting a little bit portions at a time.
• 2:00
  Jeff Dziekan: During the vulcanization process, and Spock does knows that, uh, whereas the tire is heated and cured, curing the rubber, the white and black compounds fuse together.
• 2:10
  Jeff Dziekan: Painted white lettering is fully formed and cured in the area, the white lettering, and is applied thoroughly and cleaned and prepared.
• 2:19
  Jeff Dziekan: Specialized durable paint is then carefully applied to the designated areas.
• 2:23
  Jeff Dziekan: This process might be done by hand or with the help of automated machinery for consistency and precision.
• 2:28
  Jeff Dziekan: Both methods require careful quality control and ensure the lettering is not only aesthetically pleasing, but also to withstand the rigors of road use without fading or peeling.
• 2:38
  Jeff Dziekan: And regular cleaning is essential to get the dirt and all the buildup and keep it from yellowing.
• 2:42
  Jeff Dziekan: Using cleaners specifically designed for it is advisable because you can really tarnish it and mess it up.
• 2:48
  Jeff Dziekan: Avoid exposure to harsh chemicals and solvents, deteriorating the rubber.
• 2:52
  Jeff Dziekan: We used to use brake fluid to get our tires black.
• 2:55
  Don Armstrong: Oh my god.
• 2:55
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh yeah, that was back in the day.
• 2:57
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh for those seeking non-permanent solutions, temporary decals can be applied to the sidewall.
• 3:02
  Jeff Dziekan: There are actually companies out there, professional companies, that will design lettering and apply them to your tire.
• 3:08
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh while comparing all of these raised white letters, outline white letters, consider this.
• 3:13
  Jeff Dziekan: They are a little bit higher priced, even if when you buy it, you know, from the from the uh tire store, and then the raised white letters can be a little bit more money as well.
• 3:21
  Jeff Dziekan: The resurgence of vintage and retro styles and automotive design has been renewed interest in the white letter tiring.
• 3:27
  Jeff Dziekan: The ability to customize and personalize tires, white lettering, appears to be pretty advantageous for the consumer, and it's kind of unique and it makes a unique style statement for them.
• 3:37
  Jeff Dziekan: White lettering on tires is often associated with specific brands, influencing customer loyalty and preference.
• 3:43
  Jeff Dziekan: The trends indicate that while practical considerations are important, the aesthetics and brand-related aspects of the tire design significantly influence the customer's choice.
• 3:53
  Jeff Dziekan: And there you've got all kinds of things.
• 3:54
  Jeff Dziekan: You could create your own design, you can uh get on their website, and they'll send you the stickers themselves, and you can you can put Don Armstrong on the side of your tire.
• 4:02
  Jeff Dziekan: No, I don't want Don Armstrong.
• 4:04
  Jeff Dziekan: You can do that.
• 4:04
  Jeff Dziekan: No, no, we're good.
• 4:05
  Don Armstrong: All right.
• 4:06
  Don Armstrong: Thank you, Jeffrey.
• 4:12
  Don Armstrong: Time now for Mr.
• 4:14
  Don Armstrong: Mars this week in auto history.
• 4:17
  Don Armstrong: Mr.
• 4:18
  Don Armstrong: Mars, it's all yours, sir.
• 4:19
  Mike Marrs: Found a few things this week uh coming up that we thought were real interesting and thought we'd share them.
• 4:25
  Mike Marrs: Uh, for example, in 1925, the Going to the Sun Road moves forward.
• 4:31
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is a major construction project that uh went through Montana and into Glacier National Park.
• 4:39
  Mike Marrs: Now, the reason this was really important, not only was it carved out of the side of the mountains themselves, but this kind of helped establish the idea that the road, the scenery, the place to go could be the road itself, which inspired more people to get on instead of just going to a resort or something.
• 4:54
  Mike Marrs: Let's go travel across America as part of these roads.
• 4:57
  Mike Marrs: And there's a few of these out there, and this is one of them that kind of kicked that off.
• 5:02
  Mike Marrs: The second thing we found in 1934, Donald Healy wins the Alpine trial.
• 5:07
  Mike Marrs: Now, this was important because this guy created the Austin Healy eventually.
• 5:13
  Mike Marrs: So this is where he got his start.
• 5:15
  Mike Marrs: He worked through it.
• 5:16
  Mike Marrs: This is a picture of one of the cars going through the race course, uh, of course, much later and newer.
• 5:21
  Jeff Dziekan: So it looks like Pike's Peak.
• 5:23
  Mike Marrs: Almost, but it's an Austin People.
• 5:24
  Mike Marrs: No, it is not Pike's Peak, doesn't promise you that.
• 5:28
  Mike Marrs: So this is one of the primary uh automotive events of that era, and this has helped what launched his career into actually building cars as he got uh a little more prominent in the world.
• 5:39
  Mike Marrs: So the next one is in 1948.
• 5:42
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is the first Porsche that was completed in 1948.
• 5:48
  Mike Marrs: It was known as Porsche 356 number one.
• 5:51
  Don Armstrong: You mean Porsche?
• 5:52
  Mike Marrs: Porsche.
• 5:55
  Mike Marrs: Depends on where you're at.
• 5:56
  Mike Marrs: East Texas or West Texas.
• 5:58
  Mike Marrs: Anyway, so it was built in Australia, Austria, and carried a mid-mounted engine.
• 6:04
  Mike Marrs: Now, this would become one of the world's most respected performance car brands, and this hand-built prototype was the beginning of it.
• 6:13
  Mike Marrs: So this is where it kicked off, and they brought they actually built two.
• 6:16
  Mike Marrs: They built the convertible and they built an open.
• 6:19
  Mike Marrs: I mean, uh, they built the coupe and they built an open model.
• 6:22
  Mike Marrs: They didn't have convertibles, they were open cars.
• 6:24
  Jeff Dziekan: It's like a Carrera type type.
• 6:27
  Mike Marrs: Kind of the forefront to that, absolutely.
• 6:31
  Mike Marrs: So the fourth thing I wanted to bring up, and this one I thought was real interesting uh when I got into it a little bit further, 1955.
• 6:39
  Mike Marrs: Mercedes-Benz was headed for a victory at the 24 hours of Lamont.
• 6:43
  Mike Marrs: Unfortunately, there was a crash.
• 6:46
  Mike Marrs: Now, the cause of the crash was because of the Jaguar driver getting ready to make a pit.
• 6:51
  Mike Marrs: He pulled to the right side of the track in front of the Austin Healy driver who had to hit the brakes.
• 6:57
  Mike Marrs: Now, when he did that, he also swerved, and when he did, he pulled out in front of the Mercedes-Benz that was traveling at 125 miles per hour.
• 7:07
  Mike Marrs: Mercedes-Benz hits the car and was launched into the uh earth embankment that was right there, hit the top of it, launched over into the spectator area, and it disintegrated.
• 7:21
  Mike Marrs: Threw him out onto the track, which he died immediately.
• 7:24
  Mike Marrs: But the debris debris and the rest of the car that bounced through, literally bounced through the spectator area, killed 80 people, not to mention how many people were injured.
• 7:34
  Mike Marrs: And this is the most spectacular uh accident is from a uh death count that has happened in automotive history.
• 7:41
  Mike Marrs: And I thought this was kind of uh I didn't know it was that bad.
• 7:44
  Mike Marrs: I knew that there was a big wreck and it caused a lot of changes in the racing world because of it.
• 7:50
  Mike Marrs: Then in 1963, Ford's total performance campaign expanded.
• 7:55
  Mike Marrs: Now, this particular thing is important because Ford was doing going through their total performance strategy, and they were trying to link racing directly with car sales.
• 8:05
  Mike Marrs: Same thing, win on Sunday, sell on Monday type thing that uh became very popular back then with the NASCAR and the publicity that was all around that.
• 8:14
  Mike Marrs: But the philosophy also is kind of what led to the uh streetcar high performance market, the the muscle machines that came out and that were developed with the big engines and the small cars.
• 8:28
  Mike Marrs: This was the stepping stone that led into that up and through the 60s until it kind of crapped out in the 70s, unfortunately.
• 8:35
  Mike Marrs: But that was some of the things we found interesting in this week in automotive history.
• 8:39
  Don Armstrong: Thank you, sir.
• 8:40
  Mike Marrs: Howdy.
• 8:46
  Don Armstrong: All right, thank you, Jeffrey.
• 8:48
  Don Armstrong: Time now for Mr.
• 8:48
  Don Armstrong: Mahr's driving destinations.
• 8:50
  Don Armstrong: Here we go.
• 8:51
  Don Armstrong: And this week, Mr.
• 8:52
  Don Armstrong: Mahr's hidden Houston Speakeasies.
• 8:57
  Don Armstrong: I'm ready.
• 8:57
  Don Armstrong: I'm all ears.
• 9:00
  Mike Marrs: So for our younger audience that really is not familiar with the idea of the speakeasy, that came about because during Prohibition you had to go to a hidden bar.
• 9:10
  Mike Marrs: Sometimes it was special knocks on a certain door or something like that.
• 9:14
  Mike Marrs: Anyway, that were kind of hidden, and that's the reason they call the speakeasy because you had the speakeasy to get into it.
• 9:20
  Mike Marrs: So in Houston, we've got a few, and uh what they do is give you that little mystery, the little atmosphere, and and an easy place to have some conversation uh over some really nice cocktails in these hidden places.
• 9:32
  Mike Marrs: Downtown's hidden bookcase experience.
• 9:35
  Mike Marrs: Now, we're gonna start with Dander Downtown, then we're gonna slip behind a bookcase, literally, to get to Captain Fox Heart's Bad News and Bar Spirit Lodge, and also in um in the name in the hidden bar district.
• 9:49
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is one of the classic speakeasy setups in that you have to go through uh uh a hidden place.
• 9:55
  Mike Marrs: It's not widely known.
• 9:57
  Mike Marrs: Uh it is, but it's not.
• 9:58
  Mike Marrs: It's supposed to be hidden, it's supposed to be secretive.
• 10:01
  Mike Marrs: And but this place has a really nice balcony that you can set out there on and you have a nice view of downtown.
• 10:08
  Mike Marrs: It's really nice during the evening where the lights come up and everything.
• 10:12
  Mike Marrs: And uh they have some really great craft cocktails and a real nice food menu to go along with it.
• 10:17
  Mike Marrs: Now, from there, if you want something for more of a little more special occasion date, go to Bandista.
• 10:24
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is hidden literally behind the entrance within the hotel of the four seasons.
• 10:30
  Mike Marrs: Now it's only 20 seats in this speakeasy, so it's very uh very small, very uh exclusive, intimate exclusive, but it's got all the prohibition-inspired touches to it and with modern mixology.
• 10:45
  Mike Marrs: So the uh you can sit in there and you can uh kind of like sitting in a theater to watch what goes on, ordering the drinks from the bar, and you can actually pair it with dinner while you're downtown.
• 10:56
  Mike Marrs: It just creates a nice little venue to go and sneak off to, like is what you would want for speakeasy.
• 11:02
  Mike Marrs: Now, this other one here is one of Houston's kind of unusual date night concept is case chocolate.
• 11:10
  Mike Marrs: Now, it doesn't focus solely on drinks because it's got the cozy speakeasy style venue, but it also puts that with the artisan chocolates that are cute go with curated uh cocktails.
• 11:24
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is uh kind of creates a lot of conversation just because it's something different.
• 11:29
  Mike Marrs: You're sitting there talking, and uh it's not very far.
• 11:32
  Mike Marrs: It is downtown, but it's a really nice place to set at and get to.
• 11:37
  Mike Marrs: From there, you can go over to the River Oaks uh hotel where it's called a place called Fancies.
• 11:45
  Mike Marrs: Again, Prohibition era.
• 11:48
  Mike Marrs: The venue combines the art decal styling, live music, low lighting, and craft cocktails to give you that kind of hidden away, unique experience that you might find and expect to see in a speakeasy.
• 12:00
  Mike Marrs: Now it's hidden upstairs in a uh it's a hidden lounge upstairs, and it gives you that sense that you're going to a private party, not necessarily an open area bar.
• 12:12
  Mike Marrs: The uh if you're looking for something that's a little more old, if you will.
• 12:18
  Mike Marrs: Mafarless.
• 12:19
  Don Armstrong: Marfrayless.
• 12:21
  Don Armstrong: Marfrayless, yes.
• 12:22
  Mike Marrs: I do that.
• 12:24
  Mike Marrs: So you're familiar with it, Don?
• 12:26
  Don Armstrong: Uh, yes, I am, and I'm not gonna tell you why.
• 12:29
  Mike Marrs: Uh but a lot of people.
• 12:30
  Mike Marrs: Just please move on.
• 12:31
  Don Armstrong: Don't run short of time.
• 12:33
  Don Armstrong: This is the place to do it.
• 12:35
  Mike Marrs: Got lots of dim lighting, intimate booths, and uh it's great for a Houston date night.
• 12:40
  Mike Marrs: Uh, one other thing I would mention in a real hurry is the hidden bar in Rice Village.
• 12:45
  Mike Marrs: And uh the name kind of says it all.
• 12:47
  Mike Marrs: It's tucked away into a nice setting, intimate cocktails, and uh got dinner nearby.
• 12:52
  Mike Marrs: Just a nice place that you can go to to have a nice date night in someplace different.
• 12:56
  Don Armstrong: And even though you didn't ask, I am going to tell you that Marfralis used to be back in the day the makeout bar in Houston.
• 13:04
  Don Armstrong: Thank you for asking.
• 13:04
  Don Armstrong: Hey, the in-wheel time car talk show is gonna continue right after this quick break.
• 13:08
  Don Armstrong: Stay with us.
• 13:15
  Don Armstrong: Thank you very much.
• 13:16
  Don Armstrong: All right, time now for this hour's car review.
• 13:18
  Don Armstrong: Your old pal Don Armstrong had a chance to drive the 2026 GMC Sierra.
• 13:23
  Don Armstrong: Now, this is not just any old Sierra, this is the full-size uh EV Denali max range, and it comes in these trim levels elevation standard range, denali uh standard range, denali extended range, AT4 extended range, AT4 max range, and Denali Max range.
• 13:52
  Mike Marrs: I need a drink.
• 13:53
  Don Armstrong: And I'll tell you this, uh it will it shows on the dash anyway, that once it's got a full charge, it'll do 500 miles.
• 14:02
  Don Armstrong: Seats, well, um gosh, it depends on how you've got it loaded up, but this particular one here is seats five.
• 14:09
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 14:10
  Don Armstrong: Exterior changes, it was all new in 2024.
• 14:13
  Don Armstrong: Sharp looking body style reminds of the old Avalanche in some sort of way, if you look at it from the side.
• 14:19
  Don Armstrong: Attractive, unique grill with a solid panel in place of the open grill, like most uh trucks and SUVs have.
• 14:27
  Don Armstrong: Big open wheel wells with side marker lights embedded at the top of the you can see them up there at the top of the uh wheel wheel trim.
• 14:38
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 14:39
  Don Armstrong: Um short box is attractive.
• 14:42
  Don Armstrong: I really do like the short box.
• 14:44
  Don Armstrong: Uh, what could use improvement?
• 14:46
  Don Armstrong: That plasticky rear bumper.
• 14:47
  Don Armstrong: I think I'd take that off and put me a big chrome one up there from 1968.
• 14:51
  Don Armstrong: Well, you could do a roll pin.
• 14:53
  Don Armstrong: Interior highlights.
• 14:54
  Don Armstrong: Each trim gets its own unique upholstery, huge uh vertical mounted center screen there with a phone charger directly below it.
• 15:03
  Don Armstrong: Uh steering wheel controls are easy to understand and use.
• 15:07
  Don Armstrong: Uh as far as uh the sidesteps, they're folding and they are handy, I will tell you that.
• 15:15
  Don Armstrong: Uh as far as room, it's got a frunk up in the trunk up in the front there.
• 15:19
  Don Armstrong: It's small but handy.
• 15:21
  Don Armstrong: Uh the back seat folds up.
• 15:23
  Don Armstrong: Uh, what I liked about it, overall layout, extremely attractive.
• 15:27
  Don Armstrong: What could use improvement?
• 15:28
  Don Armstrong: Infotainment system does not have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto, and the instrument cluster is a little bit too small for me and my blind eyes.
• 15:38
  Don Armstrong: Uh, no shade for the sunroof.
• 15:40
  Don Armstrong: And I put on there in Texas?
• 15:42
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 15:43
  Don Armstrong: No, it's got one of those auto dimming kind of roofs on it, which is cool, but man, it's gonna be 100 degrees here before too long.
• 15:51
  Don Armstrong: You do the math.
• 15:52
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 15:53
  Don Armstrong: Engine, dual motor, 760 horsepower, torque 785 pound feet.
• 16:00
  Don Armstrong: Um four-wheel drive is standard.
• 16:03
  Don Armstrong: Toe rating 10,200 pounds, haul rating 1,500 pounds in the bed.
• 16:11
  Don Armstrong: Uh it gets a 478-mile range when I got it.
• 16:15
  Don Armstrong: It's 500, is what the uh folks at GM say.
• 16:19
  Don Armstrong: Um I got 2.0 miles per kilowatt hour.
• 16:23
  Don Armstrong: If you want to do the math on that, be my guest because I can't.
• 16:26
  Don Armstrong: We can call Katie, she'll do it for us.
• 16:28
  Don Armstrong: Um it uh gets uh 385 miles per charge according to the computer on the thing.
• 16:36
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 16:37
  Don Armstrong: What I liked about it, the range.
• 16:39
  Don Armstrong: So you don't have to stop every 10 minutes to get it recharged.
• 16:42
  Don Armstrong: What could use improvement?
• 16:44
  Don Armstrong: No, more of it.
• 16:45
  Don Armstrong: Just keep it coming.
• 16:46
  Don Armstrong: What I liked about it, uh independent rear suspension when it comes to ride and handling.
• 16:50
  Don Armstrong: What could use improvement?
• 16:51
  Don Armstrong: It feels heavy, because it is.
• 16:53
  Don Armstrong: 8,867 pounds is what it weighs.
• 16:57
  Don Armstrong: That's over four tons, folks.
• 16:59
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 16:59
  Don Armstrong: Uh rear axle stealing steering, which you did a feature on last week, that is available, so you can get that as well, because it is big and trying to get it into grocery store parking lot space is challenging to say the least.
• 17:12
  Don Armstrong: Okay, so here's the pricing.
• 17:14
  Don Armstrong: Base trim price,$98,600.
• 17:18
  Don Armstrong: Prices tested,$103,715.
• 17:23
  Don Armstrong: Base model price.
• 17:25
  Don Armstrong: That's the cheapo version, starts at$62.4.
• 17:29
  Mike Marrs: That's that's the cheap EV price?
• 17:32
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, that's the cheap EV price.
• 17:34
  Mike Marrs: Darn bad.
• 17:35
  Don Armstrong: Competitors to the vehicle in base size and price.
• 17:39
  Don Armstrong: The F-150 Lightning starts at$49,780 for the 25 model because they stopped building it.
• 17:45
  Don Armstrong: Tesla Cybertruck starts at$71,985.
• 17:49
  Don Armstrong: You always wondered how much that costs?
• 17:51
  Don Armstrong: Yeah,$71,985.
• 17:53
  Don Armstrong: Rivian R1T,$70,990.
• 17:58
  Don Armstrong: All of those are trucks.
• 17:59
  Don Armstrong: Wow.
• 17:59
  Don Armstrong: Next week, going to review the Subaru Outback.
• 18:03
  Don Armstrong: We've had them before, but they've changed it up, so they gave me another one, a new one, and uh, we hope that you'll join us.
• 18:09
  Jeff Dziekan: I have questions about your review.
• 18:11
  Jeff Dziekan: You said it lakes up 500 miles when you got a full charge.
• 18:14
  Jeff Dziekan: Didn't they have some things with Volkswagen about messing with the cafe standards and wrong mileage ratings?
• 18:20
  Jeff Dziekan: So, how you said there's a formula calculation to do that too.
• 18:23
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, you know, interesting.
• 18:24
  Don Armstrong: And I will tell everybody this if you've not driven an EV or not familiar with them, that what they say it'll do, okay, it'll do that.
• 18:33
  Don Armstrong: Turn the air conditioning off, turn all the accessories off, and uh feather the throttle and then put it on cruise control at about 40 miles an hour, and then you'll be able to get close to the mileage that they state.
• 18:49
  Don Armstrong: Now, I've I've was privileged to find out about how they calculate mileage, and they do it on a test track, and they do it down at the bottom of the test track.
• 18:59
  Don Armstrong: Mars, you were there to witness it yourself.
• 19:01
  Don Armstrong: They were doing it up there at uh Chrysler when we went to that event up there, and uh, and that's what they do.
• 19:07
  Don Armstrong: They hit the cruise control button and around and around.
• 19:11
  Don Armstrong: Can you imagine having that job?
• 19:12
  Jeff Dziekan: You do that on the road and you hit the cruise control button, and as soon as you get all those calculations set up and done, you got to stop for the stop sign.
• 19:18
  Don Armstrong: Well, there's that.
• 19:19
  Don Armstrong: But I'm we're I think we're talking about freeway drive.
• 19:22
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:22
  Jeff Dziekan: I have more, but we're running out of time.
• 19:24
  Jeff Dziekan: Okay.
• 19:25
  Don Armstrong: Well, uh that's it.
• 19:26
  Don Armstrong: I mean, it it was it was a great vehicle, and if you're into electrics and you're into trucks, this is something that you definitely want to look into because it um it's pretty darn nice.
• 19:36
  Don Armstrong: Because the GMC is a step above uh the Chevrolet.
• 19:41
  Don Armstrong: And I would imagine that they both come down the same assembly lineup in Arlington.
• 19:44
  Jeff Dziekan: It looks like it's an off-road visual of the does look like it, but it's not.
• 19:49
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 19:49
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, I barely look.
• 19:50
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 19:51
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 19:51
  Don Armstrong: I I don't know.
• 19:52
  Don Armstrong: It could very well be a good off-roader.
• 19:55
  Don Armstrong: I haven't done any tests like that, but uh it's something to check out if you're into it.
• 19:59
  Don Armstrong: Hey, if you'd like to get in touch with us, send us an email.
• 20:01
  Don Armstrong: The address is info at inwheeltime.com.
• 20:05
  Don Armstrong: We'll be right back.