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- Lucas: There's a moment in every turnaround where the CEO has to decide whether to chase the market or redefine it. For Leica Camera, that moment came in 2022, when smartphone cameras were already good enough to replace compacts, and mirrorless systems from Sony and Canon were eating the high end. Luna: Leica was the original luxury camera brand, but by then it felt like a museum piece. Weren't they losing money year after year? Lucas: Pretty much. Leica had been propped up by a passionate but shrinking base of film purists. The company lost money in 2019, 2020, and 2021. Revenue was hovering around 400 million euros. Meanwhile, the global camera market was shrinking by 5 to 10 percent annually. Luna: So what did Matthias Harsch, the CEO who took over in 2021, actually do differently? Lucas: Two things. First, he stopped trying to compete on specs. Leica was never going to beat Sony on autofocus speed or Canon on video features. So Harsch leaned into what Leica had always done best: mechanical precision, unique glass, and that intangible 'Leica look.' Luna: Which is partly a real optical property and partly a story they sell. But it works. Lucas: Exactly. The second move was more surprising. Harsch actually slowed down the product release cycle. Instead of releasing a new camera every 18 months, Leica started releasing one major new body every 3 to 4 years. The M11 rangefinder came out in early 2022, and the Q3 — their full-frame compact — came in 2023. That's it for full-frame bodies. Luna: Wait, they released fewer products and revenue went up? How does that work? Lucas: Higher average selling price and lower R&D spend. The M11 retails for $9,000 with a standard lens. The Q3 goes for $6,000. Both are built with components that Leica sources at smaller volumes but higher margins. The gross margin on Leica cameras is reportedly above 60 percent — compared to maybe 40 percent for Canon. Luna: That's huge. But who's actually buying these cameras at those prices? Lucas: That's the interesting demographic shift. According to Leica's investor presentations, the average buyer of a Q-series camera in 2024 was 35 years old. That's down from 55 a decade ago. Young professionals — doctors, lawyers, tech workers — who grew up on Instagram and want a camera that feels like an object, not an appliance. Luna: So the ' Leica look' is almost a social status signal. Like wearing a mechanical watch instead of an Apple Watch. Lucas: Exactly the analogy Harsch uses internally. A Leica is a mechanical watch with a sensor. It's slow, deliberate, and tactile. And that's the appeal. Leica also leaned into limited edition collaborations — they did a special run with the streetwear brand A Bathing Ape, another with the British designer Paul Smith. Those sell out instantly at a premium. Luna: But producing in Germany at small scale doesn't sound like a high-volume business. Can they actually grow? Lucas: They did. In fiscal 2025, which ended in March, Leica reported revenue of roughly 530 million euros — up 18 percent year-over-year. Operating profit hit about 80 million euros. That's a 15 percent operating margin, which is exceptional for a camera company. Luna: And how much of that is cameras versus other businesses? I know they also have a sport optics division and some licensing. Lucas: Cameras and lenses are still about 70 percent of revenue. But the sport optics — binoculars, rifle scopes — grew 12 percent last year. And their licensing business, which includes Leica-branded smartphone lenses for Xiaomi and Sharp, added another 15 million euros. Tiny, but profitable. Luna: The smartphone lens partnership is interesting. Doesn't that risk diluting the brand? If someone can get a 'Leica look' on a $500 phone… Lucas: Harsch's argument is that it's a gateway. Someone who buys a Xiaomi with a Leica lens might later want the real thing. And they make sure the phone partnership is exclusive and limited — only a few models per year, co-engineered in Wetzlar. It's not like they're slapping a badge on any phone. Luna: That makes sense. But what about the competitive pressure from Fujifilm? Their X100 series is basically a retro-styled compact that costs $1,500 and sells out everywhere. That's a direct competitor to the Q3 at a quarter of the price. Lucas: Fujifilm is definitely eating Leica's lunch in the sub-$2,000 market. But Leica doesn't compete there. Their customer is someone who has the disposable income to buy a $6,000 camera and also values the exclusivity. Leica sells around 50,000 cameras a year — total. Fujifilm sells 10 times that many X100s alone. But Leica makes more profit per camera. Luna: So it's a deliberate strategy to stay small, premium, and high-margin. Reminds me of the Hermès model — limited supply, high demand, no discounts ever. Lucas: Exactly. And like Hermès, Leica has a waitlist for some models. The M11 is backordered by 3 to 4 months at most dealers. That creates scarcity and reinforces the brand's prestige. Harsch has said publicly that he'd rather leave demand on the table than overproduce and have to discount. Luna: That's a tough discipline for a CEO, especially when your board wants growth. How did he sell that to investors? Lucas: He framed it as long-term value creation. Leica's ownership structure helps — the majority stake is held by the Austrian investment group ACM, which is patient. But the numbers speak for themselves. Since Harsch took over, Leica's enterprise value has roughly doubled. Luna: Let's talk about the operational side. How does Leica actually manufacture these cameras? Is it still hand-assembled in Germany? Lucas: Mostly. The M-series bodies are assembled by hand in Wetzlar. Each one takes about 2 hours of labor. The Q3 is partially automated but still involves significant manual calibration. Leica's factory runs at about 80 percent utilization, which gives them flexibility to increase output without major capex. Luna: And the lenses? Those are where the real magic — and margin — lives. Lucas: Lenses are the profit center. A single Leica lens can cost $5,000 to $15,000. They're ground and polished by hand, with each one inspected individually. Leica claims that lens production yields are only about 70 percent — meaning 3 out of 10 are rejected in quality control. That drives up costs, but it also creates the optical quality that justifies the price. Luna: That's a huge yield loss. But if the brand can command those prices, it's a moat. No one else is willing to accept that inefficiency for the sake of perfection. Lucas: Exactly. And that moat is reinforced by the community. Leica runs a program called 'Leica Akademie' — photography workshops in 15 countries, taught by Leica ambassadors. It's a marketing expense, but it builds loyalty and creates a pipeline of new customers. Luna: So the whole flywheel is: scarcity drives demand, high margins fund community building, community creates brand advocates, advocates bring in new buyers willing to pay a premium. That's a classic luxury goods loop, applied to cameras. Lucas: Right. And it's working because Harsch resisted the temptation to scale. One data point: Leica's net promoter score among owners is reportedly above 80, compared to around 40 for Canon and Sony. That's almost unheard of in consumer electronics. Luna: If these conversations have moved your work forward in some small way — whether it's thinking about product strategy, pricing, or just how to compete against giants — listener support is what keeps the show ad-free and independent. Lucas: Yeah, it's a small thing but it makes a real difference for us. If you've gotten value out of The Operator's Manual, you can support the show at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Luna: Alright — back to Leica. I want to talk about the risks. What happens when the smartphone gets even better? Computational photography is already closing the gap. Lucas: That's the biggest existential threat. Apple's ProRAW and Google's computational HDR produce images that rival a Leica Q in good light. But Harsch argues that Leica isn't selling image quality — it's selling the experience of taking the photo. The tactile feedback, the optical viewfinder, the ritual. A smartphone can't replicate that. Luna: But that only works as long as enough people value that ritual. The risk is that younger generations — Gen Z — may not care about the process as much as the result. Lucas: That's a real risk. But early data suggests the opposite. The Q-series and M11 are actually popular with Gen Z creators who use them as a deliberate counterpoint to their phones. There's a thriving Leica community on TikTok, believe it or not. Luna: Interesting. So there's a 'slow photography' movement emerging, similar to the vinyl revival in music. Leica is the turntable. Lucas: Exactly. And the vinyl analogy is apt — because just like vinyl, Leica isn't trying to be the mass-market format. It's a niche, and that's fine. The question is whether the niche is big enough to sustain 500 million euros in revenue and growing. So far, the answer is yes. Luna: What's the next move for Harsch? He's been CEO for five years now. Does he take Leica public? Find another brand to acquire? Lucas: Leica's ownership has been stable, so an IPO isn't on the table anytime soon. But there's talk of expanding into new categories — maybe a Leica-branded projector, or even a high-end audio system. They already have a partnership with a German speaker company. Harsch has said he wants to build Leica into a 'luxury lifestyle brand' beyond cameras. Luna: That's a delicate expansion. Too far from the core and you dilute the brand. But if they stay disciplined, it could work. Lucas: That's the lesson from the Leica turnaround. It's not about doing more things. It's about doing fewer things, but doing them with extreme focus and quality. In a world of endless features and spec sheets, Leica chose to be the boring, beautiful alternative — and it's winning.