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What Really Happened Behind the Scenes in the D4vd Case | Murder of Celeste Rivas Hernandez · True Crime with Gavin Fish

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Well, we've got some, I guess some more information about what
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was going on in the life of Celeste Rivas Hernandez and her
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family and her friends during the time that she was missing.
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We also have some insight as to what was happening in the
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Forvida's house houses multiple places apparently, and multiple
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juvenile girls. This all according to Steve
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Fisher, who didn't interview on another channel that I've linked
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down below. And I've got a couple clips that
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I want to talk about tonight. Yeah, it's it's disturbing,
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heartbreaking, but everything about this case is so on that
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happy note. Stay with me.
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This video contains mature themes and discussions intended
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only for adult audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.
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Well, hello there, my friend. Welcome back to another true
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crime conversation with me, Gavin Fish.
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Thank you so much for being here.
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Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for watching wherever
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you're watching from. And please tell me in the, in
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the comments where you are. I, I bonus points, we haven't
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done this in a while. Bonus points if you can tell me
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in a creative way that I, with my limited geography knowledge,
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can tell where you are. Yeah, those are always fun.
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Hey, do you ever have those days where you're just like, I've had
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enough of this day. Not that it's a bad day, but
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that has been my day today. And I'll tell you why.
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I'll tell you why because, you know, my siblings and I, I am
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number four of five. I am also the favorite of the
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five, but my siblings and I who are also beloved, just not as
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much as me because I'm obviously the favorite.
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We always made fun of my dad when my mom would go away for
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any amount of time, right? Like we'd make fun of him
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because he'd get so melancholy and he was just, I mean, all due
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respect and love to my sire. My father got kind of pathetic
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when mom wasn't around, but guess what?
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Oh, Kimberly, my snuggly bear, my sweetie pie, my one and only.
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She is on a trip right now and I don't even know how I cope.
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Like doing all the things that she does that just, and, and I
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mean, beyond just missing my, my snuggly bear, like, Oh my
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goodness, she does all the things, so many things in our
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house that are just like, automatically done.
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Not automatically because she jokes that hey, the the dish
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fairy. There is no dish fairy, OK?
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There is no, there's no fairy that washes the dishes.
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There is no fairy that cleans the house.
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Yeah, no, she keeps this house running like a Swiss watch.
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It is impressive and when she's not here, I just like by the end
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of the day, I'm like, you have had enough of this day, even
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when it's a good day, like today's been a good day.
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Today's been a terrific day. You know what happened today.
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This is totally I'm I'm not even talking about the case yet.
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We're we're just getting into just getting into my life load.
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This is a tangent. Yeah, this is this is definitely
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a tangent, but I, as you guys know, if you are a viewer of any
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amount of time, I back in August, I said the law.
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I started to say the long goodbye to fat Gavin.
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I had it had gotten out of control and here's what
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happened. Speaking of my sweetie pie,
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Snuggly Bear, one and only. We got married, began to
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cohabitate, began to have children, buy a house and stuff
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like that. And I didn't want to be anywhere
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else. I wanted to be home.
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And I got really lazy. And over the years, Kimberly and
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I have been married 26 1/2 years.
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Yeah, just got really fat. And I mean, it's it's not like
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it happened over and I knew what was happening.
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Have you seen my wife? She's she's physically fit and
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awesome and always has been. And I, and I honestly thought
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just naively as a young man, you know, I'm going to I'm going to
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hitch my wagon to this one and, and, and I will listen to her
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and I will do all the things that I need to remain physically
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fit. Well, she has done that, but I
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didn't anyway, back in August, I began the whole long goodbye.
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Goodbye fat Gavin. I get in the look in the mirror
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every morning, weigh myself and I say goodbye fat Gavin and I I
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set a goal back in August to I was 288 lbs that that's a big
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dude. I'm 6 foot 2, but I'm but I
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don't really have like a big build.
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I don't I'm not like wide shouldered or anything.
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I am not really that big. I'm just, I'm, I'm not built to
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have that much weight on me, let's put it that way.
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I was, I was 288 lbs and I set a goal back in August to be 200
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lbs. Not because, you know, I, I knew
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that at £200 I would be physically fit.
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No, I just was like, hey, 200 lbs.
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Well, what has happened since August?
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What? August, September, October,
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November, December, January, February, March, April.
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So we're not actually tomorrow will be the eight-month mark,
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right? So over 8 months, what is that
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32 weeks? Dude?
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I, I've been a little overly aggressive because you
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shouldn't, you shouldn't lose weight that quickly, but over,
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over the last eight months I have, I have bounced against
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different weights right where like, oh, I just can't
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breakthrough. I just can't breakthrough and
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then it breaks through and I'm able to keep going.
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Well, I've been bouncing up against 200 lbs for about the
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last week and a half. 200.4200.2200.6200.22 O 1.3.
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You know, it was like that, like, Dang it, Gavin.
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Well, you know what? I stepped on the scale this
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morning, 199.6. I broke through.
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So I have reached my first goal. I have lost over 88 lbs in eight
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months. That's too fast.
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Don't do that. Don't do that.
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It's too fast. There have been, there have been
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like some joint ramifications I've noticed because I'm a 50
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year old man that like I can build muscle quickly, but my
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joints can't take it, man. My, my, I, my, my joints, my
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tendons, my ligaments, they get, they get hurt.
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I haven't been able to lift a dumbbell in like 3 1/2 weeks now
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because my elbows are just inflamed, right.
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So anywho, don't, don't do that. But, but definitely this is a
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how this is not how to lose weight with Gavin.
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It is how Gavin lost weight. But I'm going to keep going
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because I can see that my body wants to be lighter and I want
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to build a little more muscle mass and I'm going to keep
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going. But it is pretty cool that I
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made that goal. Pretty awesome.
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All right, long, long, long tangent, for which I apologize.
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What are we talking about tonight, Gavin?
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Gavin, tonight we are talking about this young woman, Celeste
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Rivas Hernandez, the Lake Elsinore teen runaway who,
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Speaking of Hitchin wagons, hitched hers to a grown adult
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male, a grown man, a famous man. I almost can't blame her, right?
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Because she's a kiddo. She doesn't know.
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She doesn't, she doesn't get it. She doesn't have wisdom, she
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doesn't have experience. You only get that wisdom through
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experience. Sadly, she will never have the
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chance to grow old and wise because she has been murdered.
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And the man at the center of it is this guy, a guy named David
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Anthony Burke, which he is a singer and has a stage name that
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is spelled D4 VD. It's pronounced David, but no,
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no, I'm following in the steps of who am I following?
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Gavin. My mind, guys, my mind Pascal.
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I'm following in the steps of Pascal, who pronounces it
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Deformada. And I love it.
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I love it. So Deformada has been arrested.
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Here is the old mug. Here is a sketch of him in court
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last week. He is charged with the murder of
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Celeste Rivas Hernandez, a 14 year old child who it appears
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when he started to lure her in, she was only 12 years old.
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And according to what we're going to talk about tonight, she
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wasn't the only one. And that just makes sense to me.
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She's not going to be the only one, right?
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Let me check in to see what you guys are saying over here.
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Garth B Nutt is expressing pride.
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Thanks. Garth B Nutt too.
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Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
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I am I'm feeling good about today.
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But you know what even with. Hey Jillian, thank you very much
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for the Super chat guys in Mr. Fisher's video that we're taking
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from another channel, you know the whole fair use thing to
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comment on it and so forth. I've linked down in the
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description below. He uses the CP term, and so I
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know that I'm going to get demonetized and I just didn't
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have it in me. Well, first of all, it's
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important, but if you can help with the Super chat or super
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sticker or a tip through my website or joining Patreon, that
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would go a long way. No pressure, no guilt, just an
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invitation. I deeply, deeply appreciate it.
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Thank you, Jillian, for that. Let's see, South Florida is
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here. Let me scroll all the way up
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here. San Jose is here.
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Amy, it's always good to see you.
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Austin, TX. Good to see Miss Chivos Dragon.
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Thanks for being here. The Midwest is represented.
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Georgia is represented. Thank you for being here.
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Keep on going here. Canada is in the house.
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Our wonderful neighbors from the north.
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Indiana is here. The UK.
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Thank you, Alexandra, thank you for being here.
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Salisbury, Tennessee is here. Jacksonville, FL Scotch Mom,
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good to see you. Georgia, Dollywood, Toronto,
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another friendly neighbor from the north, The home state of the
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Kentucky Derby. Oh, well, you, you had, you
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extended me some grace on that. I think that is the great state
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of Kentucky. Michigan is here from the city
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that hosted the World's Fair in 19 O1.
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I'm just going to say Chicago. That's my guess.
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I don't know. I don't know Western can Canada
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here dipping toes in the Pacific Ocean.
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Jenny from the Queen of the American Lakes.
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And let's see, Shawna, Shawna Bow is from the RIP City Emmy
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from the San Jose Earthquakes and Sharks.
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My own, my one and only roommate that I ever had, guy named Jeff
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was a San Jose Sharks nut. He was well beyond a fan.
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He loved, he loved the Sharks. Nikki is here from Bermuda.
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Thank you for being here. Kentucky is here, the city of
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many missions. Let's see, Santa Cruz, Santa
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Barbara, Santa San Francisco, San Jose.
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I don't know. Yesterday I got to have a little
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Chitty chat with one of my old and dear friends from Argentina.
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It's been so long since I've done that.
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Way too long. You know, my, my tongue just
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stops working in in Castilian until you until you use it a
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little bit home of L8 bourbon and horses.
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I'm from a country in the north of England, UK.
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It's where we have a pudding that you eat with roast beef
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coming to us from Yorkshire. Thank you for being here.
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Idaho. You guys are awesome.
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Erie, PA. Thanks.
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Thanks everybody. Thank you, thank you, thank you,
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thank you, thank you, thank you and thank you for all the
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congratulations on the, the health journey that I've been
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going through. OK guys, Steve Fisher.
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Steve Fisher is a private investigator.
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He is mostly, I see him on social media on X at SF under
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score Investigates. He was hired by the owner of the
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home that was being leased for Deformada in the Hollywood
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Hills. After the police went in there,
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after, you know, they vacated the house and the police went in
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there to do their investigation. But before Mr. Burke was
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arrested, because it was months, it was months.
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It took a month to arrest him. But he has been dripping out
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content, dripping out information from his
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investigation and and he was on with what is the name of the
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channel? Is it Judeon or I think it's
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Judeon. I think it's how you pronounce
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his name. What's funny is like he never
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says his own name. So I can't I'm not sure how he
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pronounces it. But anyway, super big channel, 5
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million plus subscribers. A very, very good live streamer
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does live streams every single day, every single weekday.
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Anyway, guys, guy seems just awesome.
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But he was on there and I prepared a couple of clips and
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then I've linked to the channel so you can go see the whole
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thing. It's like an hour and a half
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long, but Steve Fisher has been dripping out some information on
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X and last week. I, I think let's see, I want to
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be fair to myself and I want to be fair to commenters, right?
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The, the comments that I haven't liked it have been kind of like
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blaming of, of Celeste's family. But it's not that I just haven't
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liked them. It's just that I haven't seen
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any evidence that that her family did anything wrong.
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I, I, it kind of felt like a little, she was kind of a
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runaway and she was, you know, it's hard to control a kid that
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learns early on that people don't have control over them.
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And I, I trying to extend a little grace, trying to have
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some compassion, show some humanity.
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But according to Steve, it does seem like you guys are right and
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I am wrong on this. Now, also, don't get me wrong.
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Like I'm not afraid to call somebody out.
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You know, the Madeline Soto case is a good example of this, that
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that was a cluster from the beginning.
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Her Jennifer Soto. Oh, my goodness.
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I just wanted to shake her. And I think that she bears
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responsibility in the death of Madeline Soto, though it appears
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that she will never face responsibility.
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So I'm not afraid of it, but unless there's evidence, I, I
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don't want to just go off of kind of gut feeling, but you
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guys probably were maybe paying more attention on Reddit and
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other places. So, yeah, I think I think I have
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an apology to make, right? That that maybe there is some
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culpability here with, with members of her family and her
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inner circle. Now, this is not for, because we
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take victims seriously. We take victims families very
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seriously. And we like to temper our
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speculation with compassion and humanity, right?
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We we want to keep doing that. We just also want this to be a
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learning opportunity for everyone, including parents of
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maybe maybe parents of little ones that will have teenagers
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before they know it kind of thing.
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Because man, I've gone through it three times.
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I'm about to go through my 4th time and eventually I'll go
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through it my fifth time of raising teenagers.
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It is hard. They are hard.
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Loved them. I've I've I've also not liked
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them very much during they're like, teenagers are hard, right?
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Except for me, when I was a teenager, I was, I was pure as
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the wind driven snow. I was such an easy teenager.
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My parents had no problems with me because I was just just so
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easy. Now I'm saying that tongue in
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cheek and this is yeah, we better do another tangent,
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another fish tangent now. Yeah, That that's that's
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definitely worthy of a tangent. I was back in California in late
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February, if you guys remember, which is where I hailed from.
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It's where I was raised. It's where my wife was born and
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raised, Northern California. And I have a father who I am
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slowly but surely morphing into the evolution.
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It's got to be nearing completion by now.
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But my dad. The world's greatest dad, one of
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the things about him is he has kept a detailed journal forever,
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like his whole life. And each year of his journal
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takes up two, at least two bankers boxes.
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And so when I was back there in February, I asked him, hey, do
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you mind if I go through your journals?
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He's like, that's what they're there for.
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Great. So I went to 1993, which is the
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year that I graduated from high school, pulled down those boxes,
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started going through them, and my parents were having a hard
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time with me. Teenagers are tough and and I, I
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was a pretty darn good kid, but still, teenagers are tough,
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right? Teens are tough.
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So I I do want to extend as much grace as possible here, but we
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also want to make this a learning opportunity.
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So before we get to the video with Steve here, I did see a
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couple of super chats come in. I want to acknowledge those.
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Thank you to both of you who just did that.
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Caroline Taterville with a $3 super chat that or a super
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sticker. Thank you very much.
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And and 1 lucky girl with a super chat.
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Thank you very much. And what a beautiful cat in your
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little avatar there that is, or your profile pic, whatever we
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call it. Don't don't want to call it the
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wrong thing, but I did see AI did see a comment that is, you
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know, Scotch's mom, frequent frequent commenter.
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The only person to blame here is David.
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It is true. It is true, but also I, I think
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you get what I'm getting after here.
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We want to learn something here, right?
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We want to learn. So we are going to do this here.
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I think this first one is about 9 minutes long.
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Here is the clip of Steve Fisher.
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Here we go. On that day, he's got Celeste
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runs away that day and she's at the old house, the one where
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they did that live stream delete everything.
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And he's got another miner at the new house a mile and a half
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away. And I've got pictures of that.
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So that can be. This is kind of all new about
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there being like a new miner. If you can reveal, how old was
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this other minor that David was dealing with?
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She was 16 and 17. This was going on for a little
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for a while. I, I believe it goes back to
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when she was 1617 for sure. But he knew, you know, she, she
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was underage and, and, and listen, it's, it's kind of the
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same MO. It's kind of the praying on
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those that, you know, he can manipulate out of their
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environment, you know, and, and, and, and there's others and
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there's, there's another one too.
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So I mean, and, and I guarantee that there's there's, I mean, I
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can't guarantee him, but. No, I mean, any predator there,
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I would have multiple victims, yeah.
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There's going to be, there's, there's ones that I don't know
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about, Yeah. Yeah, I to me, that is a
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completely fair conclusion to, I mean, it's a little bit of a
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jump, but it's, it's fair to conclude that if he knows of
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three Celeste plus two more. And I mean, prosecutors allege
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that he has CP all over his phone, his iCloud account.
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This is a predator who, you know, has, has become adept at
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that. Predation is predation, a word
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you're not supposed to. The verb isn't predate.
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I know that that verb doesn't exist, but I think predation
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does. Anyway, he, he has become adept
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at that. I think that it's a fair
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conclusion to come to that. There is more than three, you
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know, it's one of those. If there are three, there are
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30, There are 30, there are 300 kind of thing.
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When I was in court yesterday, when I happened to be looking
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right at David, he was, he was seated kind of in front of me
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and they brought him in an orange jumpsuit and they sat him
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down at the table with his lawyers and they handcuffed him
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to the table. I didn't know what was coming
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out of the prosecutor. I happened to be looking at him
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because I was like, man, he, he looks so different.
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He does not look like, you know, David, you know the artist he
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looks, he just don't look the same.
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And so I was looking at him and then she, they were talking
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about when discovery, which is all the evidence and stuff is
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going to be delivered to his lawyers and, and the prosecutor
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comes out and I don't know, I don't, I don't wanna get you
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dinged off. Literally say like you can.
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You can you can say that. OK, so she comes out and says,
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you know, your Honor, one of the biggest issues and is that there
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on his phone, there was a voluminous amount of child porn
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proper word now is C Sam, right? And and but she went child porn
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and then she goes and because of this child porn, I mean, she's a
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child porn four times in a row. It was very intentional.
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You'd let him know. We know he just stared straight
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ahead. He wasn't like, he didn't turn
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to his lawyer, like what the hell, you know, he just.
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That's a valid point. He's like, yeah, of course I I
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know that it's on there. My lawyers already know that
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it's on there. They got my phone, they got my
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I, I cloud, they got it. He knew, like I think he knows
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that that he's they got him dead rights right now.
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So and but she made it sound like there's a lot on there.
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So I don't think it's just the last.
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I don't think it's just the less than this other minor that I'm
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talking about. I think I think that there's
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going to be a lot that he actually was in communication
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with and I think there's going to be probably a lot of that
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material that he sought out on the Internet.
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He probably had a pipeline of if, if he did what prosecutors
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are alleging, I should say that there's probably a pipeline,
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right? Because it'd be like any other.
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And this is like, I'm sorry, this is so crass.
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It's not really crass, but like, it's blunt.
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It's like a sales funnel, right? If you're a predator of that
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type, you've got a big tunnel or funnel at the top that you're
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dropping would be prey into hoping that one or two make it
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all the way through the funnel without escaping, right.
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So if he got 3 underage girls to, you know, he lured them out,
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he got them to do the things that he wanted them to do.
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And, you know, there's probably a pipeline.
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He probably has a full pipeline of would be victims.
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And the parents of those children should be thanking the
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LAPDLA County District, LA County District Attorney's
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Office for, you know, closing off that pipe because their
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daughters could have just as easily been victims.
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To the timeline, so I didn't know this.
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So it was January 2025 when that last show happened in 2024.
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She'd been gone well over a year when this was going down.
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I believe that live stream was 2024, January 2024.
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Then she starts then in February, you know, is when the
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and then there's runaways and then, you know, getting into
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around Valentine's Day is she runs away again.
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And then it's a year, it's well over a year that she's gone
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before. We now know that this happened,
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according to prosecutors in April of 2025.
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So she's gone a very long time. And that's been the whole thing
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is piercing this together. Where exactly was she?
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Because we didn't really have evidence that we had evidence
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that she had been to the house, but not that she was like living
28:18
at the house. And David would travel a lot for
28:20
concerts or whatever and nobody would stay in there.
28:23
So we're like, where where was she in all this time?
28:25
And then we find out that she wasn't truly a runaway.
28:29
That's the part that's upsetting to me too, is that.
28:31
Yeah, this is, this is super interesting, right?
28:34
Was she or was she not a runaway?
28:37
Because she was reported as a runaway.
28:39
And this is where we start to get into what the family knew
28:43
what what they didn't know what what they were maybe putting
28:48
their head in the sand over right She was, she was showing
28:52
up. She was back and forth.
28:54
Her family knew where she was, and she'd shown up for like, her
28:58
cousin's high school graduation. She showed up at a family event.
29:01
There's a video out there of her arguing with the next door
29:04
neighbors in the apartment complex next to her house, all
29:07
while she's supposedly a missing person.
29:08
And so it's all very frustrating.
29:10
There's a lot of things, a lot of failures around her.
29:14
And I understand she's probably a handful.
29:16
I get that. But The thing is, she's a kid.
29:18
That's part of being a parent. She needed direction, you know,
29:21
she needed like the direction in life.
29:23
And it's not OK. They knew who he was.
29:27
And it's just, I don't care how rich he is.
29:29
I don't care how famous he's becoming.
29:31
I don't care he's living in a mansion and he can afford to
29:34
support her. It's not OK.
29:36
She's 1314 years old at this time.
29:39
It's never OK. Well, I thought.
29:40
Yeah, that's, I think that's well said, well articulated by
29:46
by Steve Fisher, that like, if, if she was indeed behaving the
29:52
way that Steve says she was going back and forth.
29:56
She may have been hanging out with David, She may have been
29:58
living with David, you know, here and there, coming back to
30:03
the house, you know, going to family events.
30:07
All the while she's supposedly a runaway, but they know that
30:14
their 14 year old girl is with this 20 year old guy.
30:22
Now that that is on them, that that definitely is on them.
30:27
If that's true, like like I trust Steve Fisher, I think.
30:31
I don't know that he has any, any incentive working against
30:35
him to to lie about this, right. I think that he's probably
30:39
telling us exactly what he what he learned.
30:44
And yeah, I mean, the that then it's on the parents.
30:50
Hey, real quick, I just remembered I wanted to let you
30:53
guys know that tonight at 8:00 PM Eastern Time, so in about a
30:58
little less than an hour and a half, I'm going to be a guest on
31:02
Courtroom Confidential with with Josh Ritter.
31:05
We're going to be talking about Nick Reiner, maybe a little bit
31:09
of Deformida and this live stream will automatically
31:14
forward over to Courtroom Confidential.
31:16
I've set that up. So if if you want to check out a
31:19
little more content about this case and the Nick Reiner case,
31:23
Oh my goodness, did you guys see Jake Reiner's sub stack that he
31:28
wrote about, about his experience, how he found out
31:32
that his parents had been murdered?
31:36
So we're going to be talking about that with Josh here at
31:39
8:00 PM Eastern Time, which is in about an hour and 25 minutes.
31:44
I wanted to let you guys know that and neglected to do that
31:47
before, but here we go. Let's keep going with Steve.
31:49
Interesting about this case is you would think a lot of people
31:53
close to him would be coming out saying things like, hey, this
31:57
was weird and stuff like that. But you really haven't been
32:00
seeing that. You know, the prosecutors are
32:02
saying that they've gotten people to cooperate.
32:04
They said they have some people that are more difficult.
32:07
Do you personally think or do you know like actually that
32:12
people knew her age and just didn't say anything about it
32:15
100%? Listen, in that discord of his,
32:18
there's people openly talk about it.
32:19
They're like, hey, are you still going out with the underage
32:22
girl? Are you still there talking
32:23
about Epstein Island? Are you and Celeste going to
32:26
Epstein Island? Like it's crazy how open it was
32:28
not a secret, you know. And, and the people close to him
32:32
and his orbit, listen, they knew.
32:35
I mean, there's, there's live streams where not just the one
32:38
with Celeste, but there's ones where he, he, he's talking to
32:42
these two super young girls on like, I don't know what platform
32:48
it was, but he's talking to them.
32:49
And his friend Asia Collins is behind him and he's, he's
32:52
laughing about the age of these girls and he's gooning.
32:55
And it's, you know, it's, it's really frustrating because they
33:00
have not like they didn't race forward with information.
33:03
They waited to the last minute to save their own their selves.
33:07
You know, like, all of a sudden, you know, we find out one of his
33:10
friend Neo has to be arrested to be brought in front of the grand
33:14
jury. That's not how it should be Like
33:16
it. You shouldn't be.
33:17
I don't care how close you were with this guy.
33:20
If you got information, we're talking about a child.
33:23
I mean, there's evidence that he met her, was interacting with
33:27
her in like a creepy way when she was 12.
33:30
You posted something I think that is.
33:34
Steve, again, hitting the nail on the head like, OK, I, I guess
33:41
I don't want to say the name of the, of the artist here on this,
33:47
but this was maybe 10 or 12 years ago.
33:52
I was working in high end audio and we were developing a product
33:56
that we wanted to have an endorsement deal from an artist.
34:03
Now we couldn't afford like, you know, like some a list or
34:08
anything like that. So we were we were kind of going
34:11
bottom of the barrel a little bit and I want to be very vague
34:17
about this, but the number of people when we finally got the
34:22
meeting, we finally got the meeting with this person.
34:27
The number of people that we had to 1 go through and and two meet
34:35
with and, you know, watch them as they circled us as we were
34:41
having our meetings and stuff like that there it was crazy how
34:46
many, you know those, you know, those fishes that like suck on
34:52
to like a shark. The shark is swimming around.
34:55
It's got like four or five of these fishes sucked onto it,
34:58
cleaning it off and everything like that.
35:00
It felt like there was a great white shark with like 1000 of
35:07
those fishes just attached to them.
35:09
That's that's the way it felt. So yeah, in in the case of
35:16
Deformada, he's a rising star, but he's got a contract with a
35:21
label, he is touring, he's dropping EPS, he he is on the
35:28
rise, the amount of people. Plus he's active on social
35:32
media, he's on Discord, He's he's all over the place, right?
35:37
He's live streaming, he's tik toking, he's doing everything.
35:41
That dude had so many people around him that all knew.
35:46
They all knew. That girl is 14.
35:50
That girl is 12, that girl is 17.
35:53
They all knew. They all knew.
35:57
And some of them didn't know willfully.
36:01
They'd be like head, head muffs, you know, earmuffs.
36:04
La La, la, la, la, La La la. Don't tell me, but they would,
36:09
They would. I mean, come on, they'd go over
36:11
to the house and see that she's there first thing in the morning
36:15
and she's wearing the same clothes that she was wearing
36:18
last night. You know, it's like they don't
36:21
have to be polymaths in order to, to do the calculations on
36:24
what's happening there. There would be so many people.
36:29
And it's actually one of the reasons that the entertainment
36:32
industry just, I just hate it so much.
36:36
You know, I, I get approached not all the time, but with, with
36:41
some regularity for some production company or some
36:46
project or whatever to, you know, inviting me if I want to
36:53
be involved in whatever it is they're doing.
36:55
I, I, it's not, it's not all the time, but, but it happens.
36:59
And I went through to, I went through the process almost all
37:07
the way through twice before I just said to myself, Gavin, you
37:12
do not like this industry. You do not like it.
37:15
You don't like how predatory it is.
37:17
You don't like how incestuous it is.
37:19
You, you don't let you just stay away, right?
37:23
And, and that's how I feel Deformada would have, they all
37:28
would have known and there would be several, in my opinion, and I
37:35
don't think this is a leap, there would be several that
37:39
would known about the murder that it wouldn't would have
37:41
known about the continuous essay, would have known about
37:45
the CP would have known about the dismemberment, the storage
37:51
that there would have been so many because he he wouldn't be
37:55
able to keep any of that private.
37:57
He wouldn't like I, I don't think that it would even be
38:01
possible. Steve is hitting the nail on the
38:03
head here. And in all of this, we've got a
38:07
14 year old child who has lost her life and she was surrounded
38:13
probably mostly by men probably. But you know what?
38:17
There would be women in this one too.
38:20
There would be members of of Deformitus family, his inner
38:24
circle, other girls. I bet there would be girls that
38:29
were finally adults that had been going had been abused for a
38:34
couple years before they were adults that are like watching
38:37
the the little ones come in and going.
38:39
I know what's going to happen to you.
38:40
They there would they'd be there be mostly men, in my opinion.
38:45
That's my guess. But yeah, I Steve is Steve is on
38:52
point here. Right.
38:54
On your feed where you showed a timeline that you believe what
38:59
happened because the prosecutors said, correct me if I'm
39:02
mistaken, they believe that the murder happened April 23rd,
39:06
2025, right? Yep.
39:08
Can you explain to us why you think they think that was the
39:13
day she was murdered? And can you explain the timeline
39:17
of from that day until September 8th when her body was found?
39:22
Do you think that he left her in the Tesla the whole time?
39:25
Do you think her body was stored somewhere else and he just kept
39:28
on moving the car? Why do you think he didn't try
39:31
to dispose of the body? If you can, could you give us
39:33
that whole timeline and everything?
39:35
Because I think that was like the best thing anyone's ever put
39:37
out, where it's like something we could visually see.
39:39
Yeah, and in a lot of this, I'm just never going to understand,
39:42
right, Even like what was going on in his mind.
39:47
But so there's two dates that they put out there, April 23rd,
39:51
they believe his day. She was lured to the house and
39:54
then some point shortly. He was lying in wait, remember,
39:58
That's one of the special circumstances.
40:00
For killed with a sharp object, they're saying, and then May 8th
40:04
is the 5th or they have to look at the timeline to be honest
40:07
with is when they're saying she was dismembered.
40:10
You got this gap in time where where now where did he store
40:13
her? You know, because you know
40:17
you're going on a week and a half and and that's the really
40:21
the point of building that timeline.
40:22
The timeline only focuses on this time period between the
40:27
April 23rd and the 8th and in May when he dismembers her and.
40:32
Hey, let me go back to something that I've said previously, but
40:35
this bears repeating. I once went on a call with a
40:39
county coroner to a death investigation.
40:42
Scene where a victim, he, he died naturally, but a decedent,
40:50
let's say, had been missing for a week.
40:53
Nobody had seen him for a week. The the bouquet that emanated
41:01
from his apartment was strong. And by the time we got there,
41:05
every door and window had been opened.
41:07
It had been, it had been aired out quite a bit by the time we
41:11
got there. There's, there's no storing a 14
41:17
year old girl in a trunk for a week and a half without anybody
41:21
noticing. I, I just, I just don't see it
41:23
at all. I, I think there's probably a
41:26
freezer involved. And I know that LAPD is like,
41:29
no, that never happened. I I think so.
41:34
I think probably. And what we're trying to do is
41:37
just find out what his movement was for one in that time period
41:41
and also kind of what his mental state, at least public facing
41:45
was. And and we've started to
41:47
compile. Then we learned well, April 23rd
41:49
is when they announced weather tour is happening.
41:52
He just gotten done with Coachella a couple days earlier.
41:56
He's at Coachella. And then he they announced the
41:58
wither tour is is or the the wizard album is dropping.
42:04
And so on the 24th, they have a, so we're talking just hours
42:10
after he would have killed her. They have a album release party
42:13
here in LA on the 25th. There he he heads out to New
42:17
York for a three day band lab pop up in New York City.
42:23
And then he goes from that, he goes to Houston to his hometown
42:27
in Houston. And he's from Houston.
42:30
Yeah. Wow, I'm from Houston.
42:32
I'm I'm here, right? I didn't even know that.
42:33
So then he goes to Houston for a couple days and so he's moving
42:36
on. Like I'm talking, you know, he
42:38
has a if, if prosecutors are correct about the 23rd being the
42:42
day, and I believe they are because I, there's somebody that
42:44
obviously gave them the information then within hours.
42:49
Yeah, where did they get that April 23rd date?
42:51
There would be a witness, somebody, maybe not a witness to
42:56
the to the stabby stabby, but a witness to the Yeah, he, she was
43:02
going over to his house, maybe a witness to the stabby stabby.
43:05
But yeah, there's there's, there's likely.
43:09
And how did they, how did they narrow down April 23rd?
43:12
He's fine. He's in a mindset where he's
43:13
like, I'm ready to go to the party, ready to go to New York.
43:17
He it's not affecting him. OK, that's that's the first clip
43:21
that I want to show you. Let's bring Celeste back up and
43:23
let's let's go over to your comments real quick.
43:26
I just want to grab a few comments before we move on to
43:30
the next one. Let me just scrollify up here,
43:45
Rachel Mills says. Gavin, how do you feel about
43:48
Epic Games not removing the four Veda content and giving
43:51
automatic refunds? Yeah, I think, I think that
43:55
everybody, I I think they should have done that.
43:58
For sure. I didn't.
43:58
I haven't followed that side of it, but yeah, for sure.
44:06
Panda and Gavin, my sister and I are 18 months apart.
44:10
My mom told my sister when she got older, there's nothing she
44:14
can disappoint, stress or piss her off more than I'd had.
44:18
That's funny. Or 18 years that's funny.
44:23
Hey, listen. In comparison, well, comparison
44:28
is the thief of joy. I, I feel like I was a pretty
44:33
good kid, that's all I'm saying. But, but according to my dad, I
44:37
was giving them a run for their money.
44:39
Rachel Mills, when I saw him at the conference, he looked like
44:41
he was a bored about what was going on.
44:44
Crazy. Like he was bored.
44:48
Oh, my goodness, Sharky says. Willful ignorance for money.
44:54
He could not have pulled this off without enablers just like
44:57
Epstein. Exactly, exactly.
45:01
Thanks, Sharkey, and thank you so much for the Super chat.
45:04
Appreciate that. Tina May Gavin, if it comes out
45:07
that David was or had been giving the family money, would
45:11
that be considered trafficking? I don't know.
45:14
I don't know what the I don't know what the definition is.
45:20
If it comes out that he was giving them money, I don't know.
45:27
Let's see, yeah, his name is Judeon, but I don't know how to
45:33
pronounce it because he never says his name, at least the part
45:37
that I saw. But anyway, FB Arena, thank you
45:41
very much for being here. Autumn says they say predators
45:45
usually groom the whole family. Well, that certainly was the
45:49
case with with Madeline Soto, right.
45:54
Like I don't want to take any responsibility off of Jen Soto,
45:58
but I think that I think Stefan had her had her groomed for
46:04
sure. Yep.
46:07
All right, let's see, Lib says courtroom confidential and Gavin
46:14
crossover event. Indeed, indeed.
46:17
I love it when Josh invites me on.
46:19
It's really well, it's usually TIF that invites me on.
46:21
Let's be, let's be honest, like, who is the powerhouse of that
46:26
couple? Hint, it ain't Josh, though.
46:29
He's pretty rad. Scotch's mom.
46:34
OMG, Gavin. That essay Jake wrote was
46:36
heartbreaking. Yeah, the Jake Reiner can't
46:39
imagine the pain he and his sister are going through on a
46:42
daily basis. Yeah, tune into Courtroom
46:43
Confidential. We'll be talking about that a
46:45
little bit, Sinabay says. I've seen the video.
46:52
I also seen the mom's Facebook from before the trunk.
46:56
She barely mentioned her missing daughter.
46:59
Interesting. No.
47:00
No talking about where Celeste is.
47:02
She knew where Celeste was, I guess.
47:03
Huh. Know exactly where she was.
47:07
Coffee time for Dee Gavin. Children are hard, period.
47:11
True. Let's focus on the real villains
47:13
here. If all these folks knew they are
47:15
the real problem. This.
47:16
The parents are secondary. She may have run away each time
47:20
and they tried. Possible.
47:22
Yeah, it's possible. Sure.
47:25
And I mean, we're going to talk about the parents.
47:28
Steve's going to talk about the parents here in a little bit, a
47:30
little bit more if I remember the clip that I that I grabbed.
47:36
So yeah, there's probably a spectrum of villainry here,
47:40
right? David being the the most
47:47
villainous and you know, all the way down to, you know, the
47:53
Archangel Gabriel or somebody completely not villainous.
47:59
There probably is a spectrum. I think that the enablers that
48:04
there will be there will be the equivalent of a Jillian Maxwell
48:08
in this. I I I can feel it in my opinion
48:11
only. But yeah, thank you for the
48:14
comment. A couple more.
48:17
Let me just scroll on down. Shelley Stone 812 says yes,
48:22
Gavin, a freezer. That's why no blood.
48:24
I think that's probably the case.
48:28
OK, I think I'm caught up on your comments.
48:30
Let's go back over to Mr. Fisher.
48:34
This, this one is about the same length.
48:38
Let's see if I get the right one up.
48:40
This is the second video. Same.
48:43
It's just a clip from the from Jadeon's channel.
48:46
And I am so sorry if I am butchering the name.
48:50
I'm, I'm sorry, I, I am, I try to be a stickler for that stuff,
48:56
but here we go, Steve continued. So Oh my gosh man, I did not.
49:02
And by the way, like this guy has more, more subscribers than
49:07
I would know what to do. It's like 5 million subscribers,
49:09
but he's doing good work man. And there is a link in the
49:13
description over to his channel. Please go check him out.
49:17
Because I was under the impression that they might have
49:19
known that he was, that she was with him, but there wasn't
49:23
anything. But you have verifiable evidence
49:26
to show that. And when you say family members,
49:28
you don't have to disclose who, but are these adult family
49:31
members that would have a say in her life?
49:34
Yeah, now, like so like the one and her name's already been put
49:40
out there. It says Moralda is a cousin who
49:42
was who is was a senior in high school.
49:46
But I'm not so much believe in her.
49:48
But The thing is, is that Esmeralda's parents, who would
49:52
be her aunt and stuff like that, knew.
49:54
Listen, I have other proof of care schools, but yes, there was
49:57
adults. There was several people in her
49:59
family that knew. Listen, her mom admitted she
50:02
knew she was dating a guy named David.
50:04
And she said, oh, I didn't like, she knew who it was.
50:06
I mean, he would come out there and pick her up, you know, in
50:09
the Tesla. And they knew she'd been found
50:12
there, you know, before police knew.
50:15
Note to parents, Listen. Note to parents Is this an Uncle
50:20
Gavin moment? This is an Uncle Gavin moment.
50:23
Guys, you.
50:46
Got to get the old Uncle Gavin glasses on here.
50:49
Hey, kids, it's your Uncle Gavin.
50:53
Listen, if you have let's say 12, 131415 year old daughter and
51:01
a grown man is showing up in a Tesla and picking her up at your
51:06
house, you are to stop that immediately, OK?
51:13
Nothing good's going to come from that.
51:18
And we're all going to judge you for being a dill hole if you let
51:23
that happen to your child, if you know about it.
51:27
I don't know that Steve knows specifically.
51:29
He sure is speaking pretty specifically and unequivocally.
51:35
But just for future reference, if you have, could be a son too.
51:41
A son or daughter, a minor and a grown adult is showing up in a
51:46
fancy car to take that minor child away from you for an hour
51:53
a day, a week. It does not matter.
51:56
The answer is no. Call the popo.
52:01
This has been a message from Uncle Gavin.
52:02
OK, let's go back to to Steve and we'll continue.
52:08
That she was with him at, at, at some point before that, because
52:14
listen to the, the person that sent the e-mail to his
52:17
management saying, you know, word is that she's with David.
52:23
If that's true, please make sure she comes home.
52:25
You know, she's 13 years old. They only knew to send that to
52:29
his manager because it was no, it was no secret in Lake
52:33
Elsinore, where she lived, that she was with David the singer.
52:37
That e-mail are you? Is that an e-mail that you can't
52:41
release out there just. Yet no, I, I, I have released
52:44
it. It's out there.
52:45
Could you? Could you send me that e-mail so
52:47
I could show my audience? Because I have not heard anybody
52:50
report on an e-mail being sent. So just for you guys that don't
52:54
understand what Mr. Fisher's saying, is that Steve?
52:59
Steve. So was it the school or was it
53:02
who? Who was it that sent the e-mail
53:03
to the man? So.
53:04
I I can't disclose who sent it. I've disclosed the e-mail with
53:08
the person's name redacted from it and I'm looking for here.
53:13
I don't know if I have it on this case file or not but what
53:16
it says is an e-mail sent to David at Mogul dot Vision.
53:22
Mogul Vision is his management. His managers name Josh Marshall
53:29
has coming called Mobile Vision. And then and so it was sent to
53:33
David at mogul dot vision, which is the e-mail address and it
53:36
just said something paraphrasing rumor is that Celeste Rivas
53:40
Hernandez, who's 13 years old, maybe with the singer David.
53:44
If this is true, please make sure she gets home safely.
53:48
Her family misses her something that's very close to what it
53:51
said. And she showed her up the next
53:55
morning. So they they got it and I know
53:57
David got it. I know for a fact, again, I
54:00
can't say why without disclosing because then he would kind of be
54:03
all figured out and the person's worried about it.
54:05
But it was sent to David from his management company and
54:07
they're like, Hey, yo, you know, So, you know, and he then
54:11
forwarded it to some people. But that was sent by a concerned
54:17
person in the Lake Elsinore community that knew, you know,
54:22
it's one of those communities where people know each other and
54:25
especially around her school was not a teacher, but I will say
54:28
it's somebody connected to the school and.
54:32
OK. I think is this the e-mail right
54:33
here? I'm going to share my screen.
54:36
So you posted this on your Twitter, correct?
54:38
Yeah. OK.
54:40
Yes, that's it. And they, they included a
54:42
picture of the, I mean the missing persons flyer in it as
54:45
well. So this is the e-mail that was
54:48
sent to that's. February 19th of 2024, I mean,
54:52
this is how long she was 13 at this time, yes.
54:55
And, and The thing is, is that like people knew she was with
54:58
David. This is back in 2024.
55:00
This is a year before more, more more than a year before we would
55:04
even have, you know what I mean? Because it wasn't until
55:07
September of 2025 that she's found.
55:10
So all the way back in February of 2024, they're like Lake
55:15
Elsinore. People know she's with David.
55:17
So my question now is because in this e-mail it says there's been
55:21
talk that the artist David possibly has something to do
55:24
with the disappearance of 13 year old Celeste Rivas.
55:27
If that statement holds any merit, please do the right thing
55:30
and take her home. Her parents are very worried.
55:32
Now my question is, is this person is not a family member
55:35
related to Celeste, right? No, she's not.
55:38
So if this random person may have been close or whatever, but
55:44
whoever this person was, they knew to send this e-mail to this
55:49
manager. Why didn't Celeste's parents
55:52
reach out as. Well, great question.
55:55
That's a good question. That's something we'd like
55:58
answers to. You know, it's, it's hard to,
56:02
you know, at the beginning we asked the same questions to
56:05
ourselves like, OK, we have, why would, why wouldn't the parents
56:08
really think, OK, well, maybe this is when this is when ice
56:12
raids are really ramping up, right?
56:14
And we're like, OK, maybe there's like documentation
56:17
issue, but that's not the case. We find out well, OK, so that's
56:21
not the case. So what, what is it then?
56:23
You know, and then things start coming out about There's photos
56:28
of meetings in Lake Elsinore with David with a paper bag
56:33
barely full of money. You guys, have you guys seen
56:37
that picture? We've all seen this.
56:39
Picture photo of that on Twitter.
56:41
I think I have, if not, if you just, if you just search David,
56:47
you know, bag of money in Lake Elsinore or something like that,
56:50
It'll, it'll come up. It's a pretty well known
56:52
picture. Now He's in a parking lot.
56:54
Yeah. So do you know when that picture
56:57
was dated? I don't remember the exact date,
57:02
but this is while this is, this is during the time when she's,
57:05
you know, when she's missing so and so.
57:10
That's it right there. Yep, so do you.
57:14
Do you know who these people are right here?
57:18
I do. I can't.
57:18
I can't say who is. They're minors too.
57:20
I do is. There any relation to?
57:24
They're not you're not, they're not related.
57:27
I'll tell you. They're people now that are
57:29
definitely fighting for for Celeste though.
57:31
They're. People fighting for Celeste.
57:34
Yeah, so. And this is him and.
57:37
This is Lake Elsinore, where she lived and went to school.
57:40
Like this is this is this is like three blocks from her
57:43
house. In mind you, Lake Elsinore is
57:45
about 75 or 80 miles from the house where David lives.
57:48
So it's not like just around the corner.
57:50
So he's out there for a reason. I was gonna say so.
57:53
Oh, man. Like, the main focus needs to be
57:55
on because, you know, Celeste isn't here anymore, so she
57:57
needs. Yeah, right.
57:58
Justice for her family. But, you know, I you know, I
58:01
know you don't want to say it, but I'll, you know, I don't
58:04
care. I'll take the bullet.
58:06
You know, I see this as a lot of people in her life been
58:09
prevented before it got to this point.
58:13
I like the way that that is said a lot of people in her life.
58:16
Failed her. A lot of people in her life
58:20
failed her. And then not to mention all the
58:25
predators that that went after her and all of the like, the
58:31
orbiting predators, right? The the ones that want the
58:34
pieces that fall out of the shark's mouth.
58:37
So many your death could have been prevented.
58:39
You can say that this is victim. Blaming and stuff like that.
58:42
Well, no, this is. Just accountability, you know,
58:43
this is a child and a child needs to have some kind of
58:49
guidance to keep people away from bad people.
58:51
It doesn't matter how much money someone has, status or anything
58:54
like that. And you know, so because this is
58:57
a lot of new information that I feel like mainstream media isn't
59:00
like talking about, about there being two different houses.
59:02
So Celeste went to two different houses, and one of those houses
59:07
there was a case report about her.
59:10
Where was it? Was it a missing persons case
59:13
report or was it a different type of case report?
59:16
Yeah, it stemmed from a. Missing persons case.
59:19
So West Hollywood had been apparently been asked to do like
59:23
a welfare check or, or look for Celeste when she was missing at
59:26
this house. And so they had an open report
59:28
about it. I, I don't have the exact
59:30
details. I can't get it because they've,
59:31
they've shut me off from it. But what they did tell me was
59:34
there's an open investment investigation.
59:36
So I think that's one of the that's one of the ways they can
59:40
say that she was murdered as a witness.
59:43
But it doesn't even have to be that.
59:45
It can be to her own case. But it all, you know, just shows
59:49
just by the, you know, by the dates of like that e-mail that
59:53
was sent and stuff that's been going on a very long time.
59:56
And he wasn't worried, you know what I mean?
59:58
Like he kept having her come back and he wasn't worried about
1:00:01
it. So I think there's a reason why
1:00:04
we haven't seen a lot of statements, you know?
1:00:05
And like you said, it's about accountability, right?
1:00:07
And I don't care if she was a handful, maybe she was.
1:00:13
And if parents get to the point where they just can't, they
1:00:16
don't know what to do anymore. They can't just let them be
1:00:19
like, OK, just go live whatever life you want to live.
1:00:22
This is rich. What could go wrong that he's
1:00:25
famous that you can't. Like, there's as much as I hate
1:00:28
the CPS system, there are systems in place by the state.
1:00:32
You got you got to go. You you can't just make a
1:00:35
decision to that they can. She's 13.
1:00:37
I guess you can. She's got this.
1:00:39
You know, you can't do that, right?
1:00:41
And and so there's yeah, there's got to be accountability.
1:00:44
I understand that. I'm sure they're grieving.
1:00:47
I'm sure they feel a tremendous amount of guilt.
1:00:48
But it's going to also be a learning experience maybe for
1:00:51
other parents that this should never be right.
1:00:54
Yeah, I, I think and. I think he's right.
1:00:57
I think he's absolutely right. Let's let me just check in on
1:01:01
your we'll bring Celeste up here one more time.
1:01:03
Let me just check on what you guys are saying over here.
1:01:07
Make sure that I've got all of the all of the comments.
1:01:15
Here's one that I missed. Let's see from Flojo TV, Gavin,
1:01:19
the e-mail that was sent to the manager, which David has seen
1:01:22
was sent to Josh Marshall and his wife and was sent to a
1:01:25
family friend of Celeste's family.
1:01:28
It's been around Kelly says. Gavin, please watch Strategic
1:01:33
Eyes with True Crime in depth on a level not showing but crazy.
1:01:37
Really need to watch. OK, Debbie agrees 100%.
1:01:42
Glad I will. I will teach Josh, yes, how to
1:01:47
say the formula for sure. That's funny.
1:01:51
So, yeah. And I mean, I'm really grateful
1:01:55
that Steve did this interview and grateful that Dion did it.
1:02:03
I wish I knew how to pronounce his name, but so grateful that
1:02:07
he did because that does give us some, I guess, deeper view into
1:02:14
the complicated nature of this case, right?
1:02:18
It's pretty darn cool now. Hey guys, we got more.
1:02:23
We got more before we, we've wrapped up this segment, but we
1:02:28
got a little bit more. We got some headlines to go
1:02:31
over, including an update on Lily and Jack Sullivan, an
1:02:35
update on Brian Koburger from our friend Brian Enten.
1:02:39
We've got, we've got a strange case of a mom who who killed her
1:02:45
children in a custody dispute and some good news as well.
1:02:49
But before we get to those, how about we do three questions?
1:02:53
It's three questions with Gavin Fish.
1:03:01
OK, in three questions in this segment, guys, you guys can send
1:03:05
to me to my e-mail address. 3 questions at gavinfish.com.
1:03:08
Three questions at gavinfish.com.
1:03:10
Send me whatever question you want.
1:03:13
It could be my favorite color, could be something and you're
1:03:15
wondering about the mysteries of the universe.
1:03:18
I probably am not qualified to answer, but I answer it.
1:03:23
I shall. I definitely will, so please
1:03:27
send that in. The only caveat is I will do it
1:03:31
three at a time and in the order in which I see fit.
1:03:34
So let's go to here we go. First question from Krista.
1:03:41
You've mentioned that you like colder weather, which is
1:03:44
completely unrelatable for me even though I've lived my entire
1:03:47
life in a cold climate. What is your favorite cold
1:03:50
weather outdoor activity? Sledding, snowmobiling, ice
1:03:54
skating. You know what the reason that I
1:03:58
like the cold weather is because I just didn't.
1:04:05
Well, I served as a missionary as a young man in Argentina and
1:04:11
Argentina 30 plus years ago. There weren't lots of lots of
1:04:20
opportunities for air conditioning.
1:04:22
It was so hot. And I just remember going, I
1:04:26
never want to be this hot ever again.
1:04:28
And I remember in the cold times, at least I could like
1:04:30
pile on clothing, you know, and get myself warm, but I couldn't
1:04:35
get myself cool in the heat. And then I grew up in
1:04:38
Sacramento, CA, where, you know, it reaches over 100 pretty
1:04:43
frequently. So I like the colder weather
1:04:46
just because I can always warm up and I can hardly ever cool
1:04:49
down. Out of the ones that you
1:04:52
mentioned, I do love ice skating.
1:04:54
I'm, I, I got to say I haven't done it in a long time, but I'm
1:04:59
not a skier, not a you know, I'm just, I think out of those I've,
1:05:07
I've always enjoyed ice skating. We did a lot of ice skating when
1:05:12
we were kids. We'd go to the, to the rink.
1:05:14
There are, there were a couple of rinks in Sacramento that we'd
1:05:16
go to. But that's the reason why I like
1:05:20
the cold is it's just, oh, and also when it snows, it covers up
1:05:24
my lawn. I don't have to mow it.
1:05:26
I I would so rather shovel snow then mow a lawn.
1:05:32
Diane W this time. Oh, what a great question.
1:05:36
What is your favorite colour with the silent you watching
1:05:41
from Australia loves my work. Well, thank you Diane W My
1:05:44
favorite colour is yellow or as our son said when he was a
1:05:49
little lilo. I yeah, I just yellow.
1:05:56
And actually the, you know, the funny part about it is that it's
1:05:58
a warm color. I like the warmth of the color.
1:06:00
Makes me feel good. I'm an enigma, guys.
1:06:04
I'm an enigma. But yeah, you know, in my skin
1:06:07
tone, I'm not able to wear yellow.
1:06:12
I it just doesn't look good on me.
1:06:14
Maybe maybe like a, a tie or or pocket square, I might do a
1:06:20
flash of yellow, but I, I, I don't wear like my, my ring is
1:06:24
white gold, not yellow gold. And I, I don't have a single
1:06:28
watch that's yellow gold. I, I do not wear necklaces and
1:06:32
stuff like that. I just don't wear gold.
1:06:34
I don't like, I don't look good in yellow.
1:06:37
My wife, though, she looks really good in yellow.
1:06:40
She she is she looks good in a lot of things, but yellow is a
1:06:43
is a beautiful color on her and it's just so warm and happy.
1:06:47
Makes me smile. I like it.
1:06:50
Third question is which song, if played on repeat forever, would
1:06:55
be the quickest to break your spirit?
1:06:57
John, I thought that was going somewhere else.
1:06:59
I thought this was going to be like a Colbert questionnaire.
1:07:01
Which song if you could only listen to one for the rest of
1:07:05
your life, would you choose which song would be the quickest
1:07:08
to break my spirit? Probably that stupid.
1:07:12
This is the song that never ends.
1:07:15
That one. That one for sure.
1:07:19
Who don't like that song? I'd love to hear your comments.
1:07:24
What are the three questions again?
1:07:27
You know, what's your favorite cold weather activity?
1:07:30
What's your favorite color and why?
1:07:32
And what song, if played on repeat forever, would break your
1:07:36
spirit? Put those in the comments
1:07:40
because we will be going through comments after we check out a
1:07:44
couple headlines. Here we go.
1:07:51
True crime headlines Hey, before we get into true crime
1:07:56
headlines, Flojo TV says jid wrong button.
1:08:01
Gavin, this button says jidion. But where's the accent?
1:08:07
I want to put the emphasis on the correct syllable.
1:08:10
Is it on D jidion or is it is on the J jedion?
1:08:16
I think it's on the D jedion. Thank you for that for that
1:08:20
super chat. I love it Pronunciation guy says
1:08:25
G Dion, G Dion, but where's the emphasis got to put it on the
1:08:31
right syllable. All right, what are we doing?
1:08:36
We're doing headlines, right? That's what we're doing.
1:08:39
All right. Come with me, if you will, over
1:08:41
here to wrong headline, Gavin. We want to do that one last.
1:08:45
Let's do the first one here because this is the one that
1:08:48
matters the most to me. This from the Globe and Mail
1:08:51
written by Lindsey Jones. Jack and Lily Sullivan's take
1:08:56
two, hobby. Take two.
1:08:57
Can we, can we correct that in post?
1:09:00
I'm getting word from hobby that we can correct that in post.
1:09:03
Jack and Lily Sullivan's mother joins search party nearly a year
1:09:08
after their disappearance. Poor theme.
1:09:13
All right, Malia Brooks Murray far right.
1:09:18
Join the Please Bring Me Home search for her children, Lily
1:09:21
and Jack Sullivan, who are reported missing from home in
1:09:24
Lansdowne, Nova Scotia, nearly a year ago.
1:09:26
All right, nearly a year after 2 Nova Scotia children
1:09:29
mysteriously disappeared, their mother, Malia Brooks Murray,
1:09:33
joined an independent search team on Sunday, a group of about
1:09:37
40 volunteers and a human remains.
1:09:38
A detection dog combed backwoods trails near the home where Jack
1:09:43
and Lily Sullivan were reported missing in the rural community
1:09:46
of Lansdowne, discovering one possible clue that has been
1:09:50
passed on to police. Nick Oldrieve, executive
1:09:56
director of Please Bring Me Home, an Ontario based
1:09:58
charitable organization that helps find missing people in
1:10:01
Canada, said a child sized boot print was found in a wooded area
1:10:05
of the Pipeline Trail, less than a kilometer from where a piece
1:10:09
of Lily's pink blanket was found last May.
1:10:11
He said he sent the GPS coordinates and a photo to RCMP
1:10:15
major crime investigators. Quote, it's definitely a
1:10:18
children's boot print, said Mr. Oldrieve.
1:10:21
It's just how can you ever possibly know whose it is and
1:10:24
when it was put there? I have no idea.
1:10:27
Miss Brooks Murray, 28, has been publicly silent.
1:10:30
Let's, let's bring, let's bring her up here.
1:10:35
She's been publicly silent for most, for the most part about
1:10:39
the disappearance of Lily, who was six, and Jack, who was four
1:10:41
at the time they went missing. Only now, after nearly a year,
1:10:45
is she beginning to speak out, sharing new details in an
1:10:48
interview with the Globe and Mail.
1:10:51
She and her then live in boyfriend Daniel Martel told
1:10:53
police that they were dozing in bed mid morning with their
1:10:56
toddler on May 2nd when they awoke and realized Jack and Lily
1:11:00
were gone. They said the children must have
1:11:02
put on their boots, gone out the back sliding glory and wandered
1:11:05
off into the woods. What happened to the two
1:11:08
siblings has confounded police and struck A chord around the
1:11:11
world. The widely publicized case has
1:11:13
spurred a hotbed of conjecture and rumors and the online true
1:11:17
crime community, much of it aimed at Miss Brooks Murray and
1:11:20
Mr. Martel, who are no longer together. 1 Criticism levelled
1:11:24
at Miss Brooks Murray is that she left Lansdowne the day after
1:11:27
her children disappeared, taking the couple's toddler with her.
1:11:30
Soon after, she blocked communication with Miss Martel.
1:11:33
Yeah. In a recent interview, Miss
1:11:35
Brooks Murray said she left because she felt overwhelmed and
1:11:38
upset after hearing from police about the vast area that had
1:11:41
been searched without any sign of Jack and Lily.
1:11:44
Over the last year, she said she's been focused on
1:11:46
cooperating with police, looking at after her mental health and
1:11:50
caring for her toddler. A member of I'm not going to
1:11:55
pronounce that First Nation, a Native nation.
1:12:00
She now lives in an apartment in Millbrook, a MICMAC community
1:12:04
near the town of Truro, with a cat and kitten.
1:12:08
She said she recently went or underwent a second polygraph
1:12:12
exam polygraph exam with RCMP and they told her that she was
1:12:17
found to be truthful. So that is what's going on.
1:12:21
There is a link if actually I think I ran out of time, but I
1:12:25
will put a link to this in the description.
1:12:28
This case written by Lawrence Silver out of out of where
1:12:34
Vermont from courttv.com Woman accused of killing two young
1:12:39
kids during custody dispute Oh, this kills me, this kills me.
1:12:44
Dateline Bennington, Vt A woman is expected to be extradited to
1:12:48
Massachusetts after she was arrested in Vermont on charges
1:12:52
she killed her two young children.
1:12:55
Jeanette McCausland, 49, is charged with two counts of
1:12:57
murder in the deaths of her children, Ella, 6, and Kai,
1:13:02
seven. Officers with the Bennington
1:13:05
Police Department in Vermont were asked to conduct a welfare
1:13:08
check on April 24th after Jeanette McCausland arrived at a
1:13:13
family home appearing highly distraught, the department said
1:13:16
in a news release. Jeanette had a visible neck
1:13:18
injury with bleeding. When officers spoke to her, they
1:13:21
became increasingly concerned about her children and reached
1:13:24
out to officers with the Wellesley Police Department in
1:13:26
Massachusetts. When officers went to the family
1:13:30
home, they said they found her two children dead inside the
1:13:33
home. Court TV reviewed A petition for
1:13:37
divorce initially filed October 15th, 2025.
1:13:41
So she's in the middle of a divorce, killed her two
1:13:43
children, and I don't get that Mental health issue, I'm sure,
1:13:50
but that just kills me. And then from Brian Enton, our
1:13:55
esteemed colleague written in News Nation.
1:13:57
Now Brian Koeberger book questions, knife sheath and
1:14:02
other evidence details in a new book written by a retired FBI
1:14:06
agent raise questions about evidence and potential chain of
1:14:09
custody issues in the case against Brian Koeberger, who
1:14:13
pleaded guilty to the 222022 killings of four University of
1:14:17
Idaho students. In Broken plea, The Explosive
1:14:20
Search for truth behind the Idaho murderers, author
1:14:23
Christopher Whitcomb draws on investigative files, court
1:14:26
records and Co burgers. Writing from jail, the book
1:14:29
cites experts hired by the defense who believed the
1:14:32
prosecution prosecution's case could have been vulnerable due
1:14:36
to concerns over how likely or how key evidence was handled.
1:14:41
Whitcomb told News Nation he came to the case after reviewing
1:14:43
materials that raised questions about what initially appeared to
1:14:47
be an open and shut investigation.
1:14:49
And then it goes into, I mean, I think honestly, I we're glad
1:14:54
that he pleaded because it's possible, at least according to
1:14:59
Mr. Whitcomb, that he could have beat the rap.
1:15:05
So we're probably glad that happened.
1:15:06
You can read the rest of the article on newsnation.com.
1:15:10
And those guys are your headlines.
1:15:22
OK, wrapping out the show with some of your comments.
1:15:26
Emmy says I dislike cold winter weather, prefer summer.
1:15:31
Daniel Dianelle saying, do you hike?
1:15:35
I do occasionally, yeah. I've brothers who really love to
1:15:40
hike and I did a lot of hiking as a kid, but occasionally I do.
1:15:50
Patty says. Cory Richens will be sentenced
1:15:52
on May 13th as was originally planned.
1:15:55
Thank goodness that is good. Emmy's favorite color is pink.
1:16:00
Awesome, just refreshed. Hold on.
1:16:03
Jenny says. I hate the cold but love to ice
1:16:05
skate. When I was younger we had a
1:16:07
brook that fed into a pond at my childhood home and my dad would
1:16:11
shovel it off for us to ice skate every winter.
1:16:13
How cool is that? Tina calls me a Riddle wrapped
1:16:16
in a mystery inside an enigma. Coffee time for D says Diane.
1:16:22
W is a gem after a heavy topic to have such a sweet precious
1:16:26
question as to what color you like.
1:16:29
I love pink. And he says no.
1:16:31
Favorite winter activity? Let's see.
1:16:36
Favorite cold weather activity for Sharky is if it's snowing
1:16:39
outside. I love to watch Gavin on
1:16:41
YouTube. That's funny, Archangel says.
1:16:46
When I first went to the US, my favorite thing was to be out in
1:16:50
the cold with my coat. Also skating.
1:16:52
Awesome. I never thought I would love
1:16:54
cold climate. Shawn a bow says Any song by
1:16:58
Yoko Ono. Oh yes, you know, I don't think
1:17:03
I've ever made it past about 2 1/2 seconds of Yoko Ono singing
1:17:09
ever. Like in the in the documentary
1:17:14
where it shows her in the in the studio and like all The Beatles
1:17:20
except John are just like, what is she doing here?
1:17:23
And she's just doing this weird scream slash chant.
1:17:28
I was like, Nope, can't do it. Skip, skip, skip.
1:17:32
That's yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you.
1:17:38
Let's see. Lucille walking her dog is her
1:17:41
favorite winter time activity. Purple is her favorite color for
1:17:46
passionate and in the arms of an Angel.
1:17:50
That one can get old for sure. Julia says on behalf of all
1:17:56
Canadians, thank you for continue to follow in the yeah,
1:17:59
Lily and Jack, that's an important story.
1:18:02
And Kim Lawton says thank you for keeping on this.
1:18:04
I'm in Canada and any spotlight is appreciated.
1:18:08
Debbie, how do two young kids just go missing while you're
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napping with your boyfriend? I am judging.
1:18:13
Yes I am. And Kiki says my favorite color
1:18:17
is yellow too and Sherry says I love yellow and lavender.
1:18:21
But Nope, I'm not a Laker fan. Well do it.
1:18:26
I am not. I'm not an any fan of any
1:18:30
particular basketball team though.
1:18:32
I mean, I grew up in Sacramento, so I guess I'm a Kings fan.
1:18:36
I enjoyed going to Kings games as a kid.
1:18:38
Did that a lot. Did that a lot.
1:18:41
Oh, Freda says. Any falsetto Bee Gees song that
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would get old for you. I don't know.
1:18:48
They're the Bee Gees. I don't know they're, I think
1:18:53
they're amazing. But you know what, to each his
1:18:56
own. To each his own guys.
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Remember here in about less than 40 minutes, I will be on with
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Josh Ritter on Courtroom Confidential.
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