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- 0:00Hey girlies, just a quick reminder before we dive into
- 0:02today's episode. The information shared on this
- 0:04podcast is intended to be general sports nutrition advice
- 0:07and education related to period recovery for female athletes.
- 0:10This is not specific to anyone individual and it may or may not
- 0:13apply to your situation. If you are looking for
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- 0:27This is the Eat more Carbs podcast.
- 0:34Hello and welcome back. This is the More Carbs podcast.
- 0:37We are a team of dietitians and we talk every Thursday about
- 0:40sports nutrition for the girlies.
- 0:42My name is Jenna and I host this podcast.
- 0:44And my name is Riley. You're also see me on this
- 0:46podcast. I am the owner and founder of
- 0:48Steady State Performance Nutrition.
- 0:50We specialize in helping female athletes recover from low energy
- 0:53availability and together along with Lily Rhymer, we are team
- 0:55steady state. Before we get into today's
- 0:57episode, we are going to do our high and low, so sharing just a
- 1:00a little bit about our week, the good and the parts we wish have
- 1:01gone a little bit differently. As always, Riley, can you kick
- 1:04us off? Jenna, it's been a week.
- 1:06I feel like it's always a week these last couple of months.
- 1:08So like I feel like it's just that's how it's been lately.
- 1:11I don't know if you feel the same.
- 1:12I definitely feel the same yes, but why has it been a week for
- 1:15you? Or what are you referring to
- 1:17specifically? Because I have a guess but would
- 1:19love to hear what you have to say.
- 1:21Yes, we need to switch it up one day and you need to go first
- 1:24because I'm always like so curious like if we have the same
- 1:27like high, low because we don't like tell each other our high
- 1:30lows beforehand do. You want me to go first today
- 1:32since I think I know yours. Oh yeah, I would love to hear
- 1:35what. Yours is OK, perfect, because
- 1:37I'm kind of excited to tell you my high, my low, I'll start with
- 1:40today because it's not very fun and it's not very exciting.
- 1:42It's just yard work and yard maintenance because my gosh,
- 1:46it's just not fun. And then like everything breaks
- 1:48all the time. It's so expensive to fix and
- 1:51it's not like fun purchases to make when someone's like, oh,
- 1:54this is broken and you have to fix it.
- 1:55And it's like it's a non negotiable fix for sure, but
- 1:57it's not a fun one at all. So that's my low.
- 2:00It's just frustrating and I'm sure you guys feel that too.
- 2:03But like this time of year, like grass is growing, all the things
- 2:06are happening, all of the plants are blooming and all that.
- 2:08It's just, oh, it's just annoying.
- 2:10It's like adulting. Like it's things that people
- 2:13didn't tell you about, like adulting.
- 2:16I just remember, like when we first moved into this place, we
- 2:19were like, oh, we should do some stuff with our backyard because
- 2:22we had like a blank slate. And then we started getting
- 2:25quotes for things and people are like, it's going to be $100,000.
- 2:29And we're like, what can you do for five?
- 2:30And they're like, we can put some irrigation and I'm like,
- 2:34OK, thanks. So now we have some drainage in
- 2:37our backyard and still super boring.
- 2:39But I just, I feel like that, like, I don't know, just
- 2:42signifies or sums up adulthood. Yeah, 100% yes.
- 2:46And it's like a very important part.
- 2:48And of course, like I knew it existed, but like it's constant.
- 2:51It's never ending. Never ending.
- 2:53I think this is actually so funny that you bring this up
- 2:55because last year around this time I think we were both
- 2:59complaining about yard work because I remember chatting with
- 3:02you that I pulled weeds for 8 hours one Sunday.
- 3:05Yes. And it's like it's hot, it's
- 3:06uncomfortable. Like you don't want to do it.
- 3:08And you're like, but I have to do this.
- 3:10You're like, I'm cleaning up outside.
- 3:12How much sense does this make? It makes zero sense.
- 3:15This is also going to like totally give away our age.
- 3:18I know some people think that we're like 2627 and now they're
- 3:21like Nope, these old ladies in their yard work.
- 3:23So we gave ourselves away. Yes, we do that quite a bit,
- 3:27though my high, perhaps one of our most talked about subjects
- 3:31is Fruit Riot. We both love Fruit Riot.
- 3:36They came out with new flavors. I thought you were going to say
- 3:39they're back at Costco. Dang it.
- 3:43I have to know what the flavor is though.
- 3:45Came out with three new flavors. They're all in the same bag and
- 3:49it's like blue. I don't remember, to be
- 3:51thoroughly honest, but I found them already.
- 3:54I had to try them, so I bought them immediately.
- 3:56But what I didn't realize is that they're not.
- 3:59Sour what? What?
- 4:02They're sweet. It's like they put the candy
- 4:04coating on there, but they didn't put the sour part of the
- 4:07candy coating on there. But it's grapes.
- 4:09It's still grapes, but they just have like candy coating flavor
- 4:12on there. So it's like candy grapes.
- 4:14I didn't know if I liked them at first when I first tried them
- 4:16because I think I was so caught off guard because I was
- 4:18expecting something sour, but they taste pretty good.
- 4:21I still would like much rather have the sour ones like 100
- 4:24times over and over again, but like they're actually pretty
- 4:26good. I want to play around with
- 4:28making them. Could save us a lot of money if
- 4:31you figure it out. I know there just has to be a
- 4:34way to do it with like a frozen grape and then putting some
- 4:37water and some lemon juice and some like sugar and some salt
- 4:40maybe like on the outside or something.
- 4:42I know some people do it like where they put them in jello but
- 4:44like I need the sour. Me too.
- 4:46Anyway, I just had to tell you. I also heard a rumor that they
- 4:49like did a collaboration with like airheads.
- 4:51Do you remember the candy airheads?
- 4:52Like the Super Sour? I'm obsessed.
- 4:55I need there to be a Fruit Riot airhead collab.
- 4:59Yes, that's my high and low. So we're going first because
- 5:02what's yours now? My low might not, might be that
- 5:04they're not at Costco to be completely honest because I was
- 5:08so excited. I literally go to like the same
- 5:10place every single time I go to Costco.
- 5:12And I know it's like still winter, spring or whatever.
- 5:15So maybe we don't. We won't see them again until
- 5:17summer, but I'm still holding out hope.
- 5:20I'm crossing all my fingers that Costco brings them back for us.
- 5:23My high and my low, though, are kind of one story.
- 5:25Yesterday I promised that I was going to talk about this on the
- 5:27podcast, but we have to address the Emma Bates you can
- 5:32situation. I think this is my high and my
- 5:34low because as always, there's like highs and lows on like a
- 5:39current event or a story. And a quick summary.
- 5:43If you are not familiar with what's going on.
- 5:45Emma Bates is a very successful American Marathon runner.
- 5:50She has placed in top three in like majors, she's Olympic
- 5:54qualified, and she is very well known in the running community.
- 5:58Recently she announced that she was pregnant maybe a couple
- 6:01months ago. This week she posted on her
- 6:04Instagram that You Can, which is one of her sponsors.
- 6:09You Can is a sports nutrition supplement company.
- 6:11They make gels and different powders and sports nutrition
- 6:14products. She announced that they had
- 6:17dropped her as an athlete in response to her pregnancy.
- 6:23I don't know that these things don't sit well with me and I get
- 6:26a little spicy over them. I hosted in support of her and a
- 6:32lot of people in the community are coming out and supporting
- 6:35her. So a ton of sports dietitians
- 6:37are supporting her. So many other athletes are
- 6:39supporting her. There's so many runners that are
- 6:41moms out there that I know that this really resonates with and
- 6:44those people are supporting her. And even people who are not like
- 6:47woman or moms at all are coming out to support her.
- 6:51This has just been a little bit of a situation.
- 6:54I feel like it is kind of like picking up you can has responded
- 6:58like on their page, they have, you know, PR teams and things
- 7:01like that have responded and they have actually reached out
- 7:03to me as well. That's a little bit about kind
- 7:06of what's going on. I don't know.
- 7:08Did I miss anything? Did I leave anything out?
- 7:10I don't think so. I don't think that you left
- 7:12anything out of like what everyone is able to see from the
- 7:15public view perspective. I think you got everything there
- 7:17from that perspective. She also, not super related, put
- 7:21a fantastic fantastic time down recently.
- 7:23She ran out 225, I think it's like a 505 maybe or something
- 7:27like that, like mile pace for 26.2 miles, which is ridiculous.
- 7:33But I think even like even if she wasn't a professional
- 7:36athlete running really fast, I do think that the narrative and
- 7:40like the stigma that's going on with a story like applies to so
- 7:44many other individuals as well. And again, there's a lot of like
- 7:48you can side of the story. I'm a side of the story and like
- 7:52as always, I side with the woman and I believe what she has to
- 7:55say. If Emma comes out and says like
- 7:57this has been a misunderstanding, like I will
- 7:59retract my statement. I think you can as kind of
- 8:02handle this pretty poorly. And I think it's very similar to
- 8:07what we had kind of going on with like the men's hockey team
- 8:10where there was this opportunity to make a statement or to help
- 8:15women's sports and we ignored the opportunity.
- 8:18I think you can could have come out and been much more
- 8:21supportive of Emma and her pregnancy.
- 8:24Like we haven't seen any like congratulations post or anything
- 8:28like that. Or they could have just handled
- 8:29the situation a little bit differently because they're
- 8:31really going on the defense and that shows that there's like
- 8:34maybe something shady going on. I completely agree with you.
- 8:37That's the impression that I got was like it was very defensive.
- 8:39And I think the thing that like really maybe like hit me hard is
- 8:43like how much of a deterrent is this for other female athletes
- 8:46to like not pursue also becoming a mob?
- 8:49You can be a mom and be a pro athlete.
- 8:51You can be be a mom and be a recreational athlete.
- 8:53Like those two things don't mean like you have to be like one or
- 8:56the other. I look at that and I'm like,
- 8:57well, do we have to make a choice?
- 9:00That's how I felt. Yes.
- 9:01And I think that there's so many eyes like on what's going on
- 9:05right now. And it is really scaring people
- 9:09into thinking that there's a timeline because especially as
- 9:11like females and women, like we think that there's a timeline
- 9:14because that's what's always talked about in society.
- 9:16And I think this is just reinforcing that.
- 9:19I feel so passionately about this subject.
- 9:22Like obviously as somebody who was pregnant and like now as a
- 9:25mom, and obviously I'm not on the same level as I'm that.
- 9:27And anyway, but I just think that there's like this narrative
- 9:30that like your athletic career is over once you become a mom,
- 9:33and that's just, it's not true. Right.
- 9:36I have so many thoughts in my head that I don't think I'm
- 9:38articulating it well. But like I agree with you that
- 9:41like they had such an opportunity or there was such an
- 9:43opportunity to talk about like this isn't the end of her career
- 9:46and this is just the start of another part or chapter of her
- 9:49life too. But that doesn't mean that like,
- 9:51they're mutually exclusive, I guess.
- 9:53Yeah. I also think one of the big
- 9:55issues for me is the fact that like this story is so believable
- 9:59because maybe it is a misunderstanding between Emma
- 10:02and her team and you can, but the fact that like so many women
- 10:06are like rushing to support her First off is amazing, right?
- 10:09Like we love the community, but The thing is, is like so many of
- 10:13us like know that this happens all of the time.
- 10:16And like that's why it's so like heartbreaking is because it's
- 10:19such a believable story. This is happening all the time.
- 10:23Like this happened to Allison Felix, like this is happening
- 10:25all the time. It happens to just so many women
- 10:27who are not in the public eye. Is it always athletic related?
- 10:29No, it could be work related. Like there's so many different
- 10:32things, so many other stories that are like this, that like
- 10:35are not broadcasted or not available and like as much of A
- 10:38public eye. Yes, it's just frustrating to
- 10:40see that. And now I'm just venting, but
- 10:43I'm like standing with Emma, like in complete support of her.
- 10:46And like, if more information comes out and I'm wrong, I'm
- 10:49always, always happy to like change my approach.
- 10:53I will apologize. It's very similar to science,
- 10:55right? Like with studies and research,
- 10:57like things are always changing. And like often times like we'll
- 10:59be recommending something and three years later, we'll be
- 11:01recommending something else because new information is
- 11:03available. We will see how it includes.
- 11:06Which is why you can't stay married to the idea that, you
- 11:09know, there's only one way to do things or one way to look at
- 11:11things, which is kind of what we're talking about today a
- 11:13little bit on the podcast because we are talking about
- 11:15like some mistakes that people make or common mistakes that we
- 11:18see from athletes in the period recovery process.
- 11:20We are joined by Lily Reimer and Lily is the other dietitian here
- 11:24at Steady State Performance Nutrition.
- 11:26And we're really thankful to have her as another voice on
- 11:28this podcast to kind of help share the story about period
- 11:31recovery. On today's episode, we're going
- 11:32to be talking about some of the biggest mistakes that you might
- 11:35be making that are actually preventing you from getting your
- 11:37period back. So a lot of times on this
- 11:39podcast, we're talking about ways that you can get your
- 11:41period back. Today we're going to be focusing
- 11:43a little bit more on some of the things that maybe you're missing
- 11:45or maybe not doing that are preventing you from actually
- 11:48being successful in your period recovery journey.
- 11:50Today I am joined by Riley and Lily and we're going to talk
- 11:53about our biggest mistakes that we see.
- 11:55We're so excited to chat more about this today.
- 11:58Before we jump into our biggest tips, Lily, can you give us a
- 12:01couple definitions so we can start off with Li, A low energy
- 12:05availability. Would you define that?
- 12:07Yeah. So low energy availability or
- 12:09Lea is based off of an equation that we like to say is our
- 12:13general energy balance. So when we have the energy
- 12:17balance equation, we're talking about energy in versus energy
- 12:20out. Energy in is going to be any
- 12:22food that we intake because it provides our body with energy.
- 12:26Then our energy out is going to be our intentional exercise, our
- 12:30unintentional exercise, and then just also the energy that we use
- 12:34throughout the day for our body to have its normal function.
- 12:36So low energy availability is when we have less energy in than
- 12:42we do energy out. So if we were to do it as an
- 12:45equation where we did energy in minus energy out, the number
- 12:49would be negative. So we have a negative energy
- 12:51balance or low energy availability because there isn't
- 12:55energy available for our body to use to match the amount of
- 12:58energy we're burning. That results in hypothalmic
- 13:02amenorrhea and or relative energy deficiency in sport.
- 13:05What are those? Yes.
- 13:06So hypothalamic amenorrhea is the absence of a menstrual cycle
- 13:10for three or more months. This is due to low energy
- 13:14availability and it has a direct correlation to our hypothalamus,
- 13:18which is the producer and regulator of a lot of our
- 13:20hormones. So when we have L EA, we are
- 13:23likely to have hypothalamic amenorrhea or HA and that is
- 13:28where we come in with our period recovery piece that we see a lot
- 13:30of our athletes for. We work specifically with
- 13:32athletes who are attempting to recover their period due to low
- 13:35energy availability. Another one of the terms that we
- 13:38talk a lot about is Reds, or relative energy deficiency in
- 13:41sport. Lily, do you mind defining that?
- 13:42Yeah. So Reds was formerly known as
- 13:45the female athlete triad, and it has since been expanded on
- 13:48because low energy availability can affect more than just
- 13:52females. It can affect males too.
- 13:54Relative energy deficiency in sport has a lot of factors that
- 13:57go into it and it's more than just low energy availability.
- 14:01And we also see a lot of downsides to it.
- 14:04That is more than just missing cycles.
- 14:07We see effects in our bones, energy, performance, things like
- 14:11that. And it really is a syndrome that
- 14:14really affects the body as a whole.
- 14:16It isn't just HA, it isn't just L EA.
- 14:19You are seeing a lot of things that are going wrong when you
- 14:23have Reds. Just like you said, Reds can
- 14:25affect both female and male athletes, but energy
- 14:28availability can be something that's impacting you and we
- 14:31still have a period. We talk so often about this that
- 14:34you can be an athlete who still is having a period, but you
- 14:37still have low energy availability.
- 14:38And that's because the side effects or the symptoms of low
- 14:41energy availability are going to differ from one athlete to the
- 14:44next, just like our fueling needs differ from one athlete to
- 14:47the next. Today we're going to be talking
- 14:48about some of the biggest mistakes that we see from
- 14:50athletes and from the athletes that we work with that prevent
- 14:53them from getting their period back.
- 14:55I feel like so often in Riley, maybe you can touch on this a
- 14:57little bit more too. We're asked about like the
- 14:59number one tip to get a period back or the top thing that we
- 15:03would recommend or what's the most important thing?
- 15:04Is it carbs or is it fat in order to to get a period back?
- 15:07But there's so many things, right?
- 15:09Yes, I'm actually really excited that we're all going to share
- 15:11our top kind of recommendation or biggest thing that we see
- 15:14athletes being held back from because like you said, Jenna, so
- 15:17many people are like, what's the one thing I need to do to get my
- 15:20period back? And it's not just one thing.
- 15:23It's usually a combination of things that add up, small
- 15:26sustainable changes that we can makeover time that lead to
- 15:28someone getting a period back. Lily, what's something that you
- 15:31see often with the athletes that you're working with that are
- 15:34holding them back in the period recovery process?
- 15:36One of the biggest things that I see is when we have an athlete
- 15:41or just someone who is starting their journey of getting their
- 15:44periods back, we usually see a lot of excitement when they
- 15:47first start because they are ready to go.
- 15:49They are ready to make changes and then they kind of learn what
- 15:53those changes entail. And like you said, we usually
- 15:56start small and sustainable. We don't want it to be
- 15:59overwhelming where you feel like there's no way you could
- 16:02possibly get to where you need to be.
- 16:04So we see a lot of athletes start implementing small and
- 16:07sustainable changes and making a lot of good progress from where
- 16:11they started, but then we see a plateau.
- 16:13We see a lot of girlies who make changes because they're so
- 16:18excited to start this journey, which we're excited with them
- 16:20and we can't wait for them to get their periods back.
- 16:23Then they feel like because they've made a couple of
- 16:25changes, they're good. They are going to get their
- 16:27period back because they made a couple of ads to their breakfast
- 16:31or they started really focusing on feeling around training.
- 16:34And I think this really ties back to what we've been saying
- 16:38about it's not just one tip. And that's really because what
- 16:42you might be doing when you start day one is a lot different
- 16:45than what someone else may be doing on day one.
- 16:47It's not going to be the same changes for everyone.
- 16:50This also ties back into the comparison piece because you
- 16:53might be making changes and the people around you might be at a
- 16:57similar place than you are. You might be on a team and you
- 17:00might notice that everyone else has peanut butter in their
- 17:03oatmeal. Everyone else is doing these
- 17:05things and you feel like you should be at the same level or
- 17:08be energy restored like they are.
- 17:10But you're your own person. You have your own needs and you
- 17:13have to keep pushing. Because when we just make a
- 17:16couple of changes, if you're so far from where you need to be,
- 17:19you can't stop just because you've made a couple of changes.
- 17:23I think you bring up a really good point here because I do
- 17:27find that similar to what you shared, Lily, people are really
- 17:31excited in the beginning and they're ready to make changes
- 17:34and that's awesome. But sometimes athletes don't
- 17:37realize how far away they are from proper fueling.
- 17:41An easy example of this is a client that I've been working
- 17:45with for a couple of months, and she was eating about 70 to 80
- 17:49grams of carbohydrates per day. As we know, that's not even
- 17:52enough for our brain and our vital organs to function
- 17:55properly. And getting her to double her
- 17:57carbohydrates was a huge step for her and a huge change for
- 18:01her. But now we're only at like 160
- 18:04grams of carbohydrates per day, and that's not not enough for an
- 18:07athlete. That's not enough for a
- 18:08sedentary person. That, again, was a really big
- 18:11change for her. But we still have to push
- 18:13forward and we still have a long way to go, yes.
- 18:16Very similarly to that, I see this a lot when we provide
- 18:19ranges of goals. So we might be saying, your goal
- 18:22right now is 2 to 3 servings of fat in this meal and then the
- 18:25athlete calculates that out. They know how much total they're
- 18:28supposed to be doing in a day. And then we revisit that goal
- 18:31later and we might say, OK, we're going to bump that up or
- 18:33we're going to move that goal post.
- 18:35They're a little bit hesitant on that because they're like, wait,
- 18:38I thought I met the goal. And yes, you may have met that
- 18:41initial goal, but we still have to continue to make progress.
- 18:44It's not that we can make these initial changes and then we can
- 18:47just sit there for 4-6 months without making more changes.
- 18:51Those small sustainable things that you can do to keep working
- 18:55towards period recovery, we can't just expect that those
- 18:58initial goals that we have are going to be the same goals that
- 19:00you have the entire time you're working on period recovery.
- 19:03I love that point, Jenna. And I think that an approach
- 19:06that sometimes helps athletes a lot is trying not to look at as
- 19:09a daily total type idea. It's so funny because usually
- 19:13you strive for the most in a lot of things, you strive for the
- 19:16highest value you can get. But a lot of times in fueling,
- 19:20we strive for the lowest amount possible.
- 19:23And so when we give ranges and things like that and you're
- 19:26like, OK, two to three servings of fat at every meal, they're
- 19:29like OK, two. And you get stuck there because
- 19:32you think that's enough, but it might not be enough for you.
- 19:35And that's where the individuality of it comes in.
- 19:38You have to listen to what your body is expecting.
- 19:41And when we make these smaller changes, yes, it might take a
- 19:44little bit longer, but it's going to be easier to continue
- 19:47to build on them because we are making small sustainable
- 19:51changes. Just like you both mentioned, we
- 19:53have to push and we have to continue to move forward.
- 19:57And it's it's so similar to training.
- 19:58You're always trying to get better, you're always trying to
- 20:01lift more weight, you're trying to run faster.
- 20:03And after a while you'll meet a plateau like you will have
- 20:05accomplished that goal. And you have to continue to push
- 20:08yourself to move forward. And the same thing is happening
- 20:11with fueling and period recovery, where at the beginning
- 20:14you have to meet your body where it's at.
- 20:16And you have to make that small sustainable change.
- 20:17And you have to push. But then eventually you're going
- 20:20to have accomplished that goal. You're going to be meeting those
- 20:22totals. So now you have to push again.
- 20:24Exactly. Yes, it's very interesting when
- 20:26we think about like the training adaptations that we make in US
- 20:29wanting to make progress with that, but we want to do the bare
- 20:32minimum. We want to stay at like the
- 20:34lowest possible amount when it comes to our fueling in order
- 20:37for us to get our period back. Like we should be applying the
- 20:39same logic that we do to our training to our fueling.
- 20:42One of the things that I see really plays off of what you
- 20:44said, Lily, which is you've made changes, but you aren't
- 20:48consistent with those changes. So if we've implemented a new
- 20:52goal for you and you have hit it maybe a couple of times, but
- 20:56then you aren't hitting it all the time.
- 20:58A good one I like to think about with this is like pre training
- 21:00fueling. If we're working on implementing
- 21:02an adequate amount of fuel before you train and you do it
- 21:05once or twice, that's great and that's progress.
- 21:07We want to be close to 100% when we're thinking about the changes
- 21:11that we make. And we shouldn't just be
- 21:13stopping short with our changes or saying, oh, maybe I got it
- 21:1550% of the time. Like we should be striving for
- 21:18100%. Not that we're perfect and we're
- 21:20going to hit it every single time, but we should be aiming
- 21:22for 100% when it comes to the changes that we've made.
- 21:25And staying consistent with those changes is an incredibly
- 21:28important piece of period recovery, because doing
- 21:31something once or twice isn't going to be enough to move you
- 21:34towards your goal of period recovery.
- 21:36I'm so, so glad that you brought this up because I got a question
- 21:39the other day on a Feeling Q&A and somebody was saying or
- 21:42asked, I eat 2500 to 3000 calories every single day.
- 21:46Why don't I have my period? The first thing I'm thinking
- 21:49about is 2500 and 3000 calories. Like I know it's only 500
- 21:53calories difference, but that's a big difference.
- 21:55And are you consistently at 3000 or are you consistently at 2500?
- 21:59Because just because you eat 3000 calories one day of the
- 22:02month, that doesn't mean that your calorie range is 25 to
- 22:053000. Right.
- 22:07If most of the time you're at 25 and you only hit 3000 and that's
- 22:10maybe what your body needs or closer to what your body needs,
- 22:13that's not actually doing that much because you've done it one
- 22:16time out of 30. And if we were to think about
- 22:18that as a percentage, like nobody wants that as the
- 22:20percentage, that's to think about the only doing something
- 22:22one time when they had 30 opportunities to do something
- 22:25when we should be trying to do it 30 out of 30 times.
- 22:27I also think about that from like the standpoint of no, maybe
- 22:30500 calories doesn't sound like that much, but where are we
- 22:32missing out on those 500 calories?
- 22:34Was it pre training? And so you did a fasted work out
- 22:36that day. Was it that we reduced some type
- 22:39of a macronutrient, Now we're deficient in that for those 30
- 22:42days that we didn't actually have that implemented in our
- 22:45fueling like that can be so impactful, even if it doesn't
- 22:48feel like it went from a surface level.
- 22:50That's part of the accountability and support that
- 22:52we provide within the period recovery program is like we're
- 22:54making sure those athletes are hitting those targets for every
- 22:58single meal. Especially if you haven't had
- 22:59your period or you've been fueling a certain way for an
- 23:01extended period of time, you have to kind of rewire the brain
- 23:05and you have to build new habits.
- 23:07You have to make this new fueling pattern your default.
- 23:10Because at the beginning, if you're not intentionally
- 23:13thinking about it all the time, you're going to default back to
- 23:15old habits. And I do think that's what
- 23:17happens, especially in these situations where somebody's
- 23:19like, oh, I'm going to push to 3000, but if I'm not
- 23:22intentionally pushing every single day, I'm going to default
- 23:24back to my old mode. I also think that it plays a
- 23:28huge role into people who are making drastic changes.
- 23:32Having accountability is super important and being able to
- 23:36slowly the increase is also super important because when we
- 23:40see people who usually eating 2000 calories a day and then
- 23:43they see online they need to be eating 2800 for period recovery
- 23:47and they immediately jump in and are trying to track 2800
- 23:51calories. That's when we're more likely to
- 23:53see this kind of method of dropping off and starting and
- 23:57dropping off. It's like our New Year's
- 23:59resolutions where everyone says that you drop off after the
- 24:02third week in January. It's because you're making
- 24:05changes that you you can't keep up with because they're so
- 24:08drastic and they make you feel so uncomfortable because it's
- 24:11something you've never done before.
- 24:13You bring up such a good point there with if we were to make
- 24:15just drastic changes and then you're aren't consistent with
- 24:18those drastic changes or even like Riley mentioned, you only
- 24:21do them one time out of the month.
- 24:23And then we're looking back and we're like, well, I've been
- 24:24working on period recovery for six months now, why isn't my
- 24:27period back? And it's like, well, we only
- 24:28made drastic changes a couple of times.
- 24:30Those things aren't sustainable in your long term fueling plan,
- 24:33which is why it is so important, like you said, Lily, for that
- 24:36accountability and for those small sustainable changes
- 24:38because it can be a really intimidating process to change
- 24:41your feeling and make feeling a priority again.
- 24:43Riley, what is one of the biggest mistakes that you see
- 24:45from the athletes you work with that's holding them back in
- 24:47period recovery? One of the biggest things that
- 24:49I'm seeing athletes held back with is trying to gain the
- 24:54perfect amount of weight. And this idea and this concept
- 24:57that you can gain or you can do it perfectly.
- 25:01I do think that so many athletes are terrified of weight gain and
- 25:07it's not your fault if you are right.
- 25:08Like we've been convinced from a society and we've been told by
- 25:12society that weight gain is bad and that being in a smaller body
- 25:15is good. And this is reinforced
- 25:17consistently in sport. When athletes hear that they
- 25:20might have to gain weight in order to get their period back
- 25:24or to get healthy, they are terrified of that.
- 25:27And they often think that they need to perfectly air quotes do
- 25:31it. If they can perfectly hit 2500
- 25:34calories or if they can perfectly hit 2800 calories,
- 25:36then they'll gain the perfect amount of weight to get their
- 25:40period back but have it not affect.
- 25:42The way they look, weight restoration is a piece of period
- 25:45recovery that we talk about a lot on this podcast and the
- 25:48importance of weight restoration.
- 25:50And we also talk about we don't know how much weight change that
- 25:53your body might need in order to help you get your period back.
- 25:56And so I think that really ties into what you said about like
- 25:58attempting to gain the perfect amount or attempting to weight
- 26:01restore to the perfect weight. And we don't know that.
- 26:03We don't know what that is. We don't know the point where
- 26:06which your body is going to feel safe again, to cycle again.
- 26:09And that can be really challenging and that can be
- 26:11really intimidating. How do you help athletes work
- 26:14through that? I do think that this is a very
- 26:15individualized process and we've talked about that multiple
- 26:18times. And with this process, there is
- 26:21a lot of like psychological and mental parts of the journey with
- 26:26athletes, helping them understand that weight gain, to
- 26:30help your body be optimized and to be healthy is not going to be
- 26:34a bad. Thing.
- 26:35So what you're saying is, is that they will be a better
- 26:37athlete? Yes, I think it's really hard
- 26:40for athletes to accept that initial thought of that weight
- 26:44gain is part of their journey. But once our athletes come
- 26:48around the idea and realize that it's for their overall health
- 26:52and their Wellness, they also see so many more benefits to it.
- 26:56They see their performance get better, which is something that
- 27:00a lot of athletes don't think is going to happen.
- 27:02I think of course we do have societal factors going into
- 27:06wanting to be in the smallest body possible.
- 27:08We also see the mindset of athletes having that gaining
- 27:12weight to restore their period is also going to negatively
- 27:15impact their performance. But we actually see the opposite
- 27:18pretty much every single time. And that's just because our body
- 27:23wants to perform at its highest level and our body is not going
- 27:27to perform under fueled. So correcting a low energy
- 27:31availability and fixing that energy equation is not only
- 27:35going to help you get your period back, it's also going to
- 27:37help your performance. And if weight restoration is a
- 27:40part of that, I promise it's worth it.
- 27:42And I would argue too, it's not even just about performance,
- 27:46like there's, there's such an optimization of health that
- 27:49happens when you feel your body properly and when you get a
- 27:52menstrual cycle, There's been a lot of conversation recently and
- 27:56I absolutely love it. But the menstrual cycle is like
- 27:59your 5th vital sign. And I totally agree with that
- 28:02because part of our program, part of what we do with athletes
- 28:05is we're looking at blood work and we're looking at lab
- 28:07results. It's crazy to see somebody's
- 28:08labs over a period of time when they're in the period recovery
- 28:12program and how much better they get with the increase in feeling
- 28:16and possibly weight. The same things that are holding
- 28:19you back from getting your period are the same things that
- 28:21are holding you back from performing at your highest
- 28:24level. Yes, it's hard to get to that
- 28:26point of getting your period back, and yes, it can be hard
- 28:29from a mental perspective, just like Riley mentioned, from if
- 28:32you are experiencing weight restoration, but it's so worth
- 28:35it. I think the other thing that we
- 28:36see a lot of is like the social side of things where people
- 28:39start to experience and enjoy and do more things because they
- 28:43don't have that fear or that restriction around fueling.
- 28:46Anymore, yes, you never realize how much under feeling is taking
- 28:49from you until you stop. If you are struggling with low
- 28:52energy availability and loss of a period, please reach out to
- 28:55us. We'd love to hear from you in
- 28:56the comments of this podcast. Or you can reach out to us
- 28:58online. You can find Riley at Riley dot
- 29:00Beatty dot nutrition. You can find Lily at Lily dot
- 29:03Reimer dot nutrition, and you can find me at Jenna dot Fischer
- 29:06dot nutrition. Thank you so much for listening
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- 29:13And as always, remember to eat more carbs.