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Posting the Perfect Life… Then Asking for Money + Ali Stroker Speaks Out · Shawna and LaLa: Life Beyond The Mic

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  Speaker 1: From the heart of the city, where the beat meets
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  Speaker 1: the rhythm of your day.
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  Speaker 2: It's Shauna listening to Shauna and La La. Check us
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  Speaker 2: out at Shauna and Lala dot com on all social
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  Speaker 2: media platforms at Shauna and La La. You could follow
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  Speaker 2: me on Instagram at the Real Shauna May.
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  Speaker 3: And check me out at Bella Underscore Lalla one two five.
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  Speaker 2: It has been a hectic week. I am on week
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  Speaker 2: three of my TMS treatments and I do feel a
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  Speaker 2: little bit better.
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  Speaker 3: That's amazing. I hope that it works, and I hope
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  Speaker 3: that more people know about it and get the word
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  Speaker 3: out there.
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  Speaker 2: I keep telling them that nobody really knows about it,
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  Speaker 2: and they did tell me the other day that they've
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  Speaker 2: been going to different doctors' offices and doing like in
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  Speaker 2: services so that people know about it. But I think
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  Speaker 2: it's just got to get out to the public more.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, people have to stop relying on big pharma to
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  Speaker 3: heal everything, and there's more.
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  Speaker 2: This is great.
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  Speaker 3: I love that you really have no side effects from this.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have to put toxic chemicals in your body.
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  Speaker 3: And hopefully this works and if it does, we got
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  Speaker 3: to scream it from the rooftops and get it into
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  Speaker 3: hospitals and get it into Every psychologist and therapist should
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  Speaker 3: know about this so that they can offer that to
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  Speaker 3: their patients first before putting them on SSRIs.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the only problem with that is that insurance only
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  Speaker 2: covers it if you have tried two different kinds of medications.
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  Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, that's horrible. Yeah, that's ridiculous. And that should
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  Speaker 3: show you right there that it's all about money. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: it's all about frickin money. Because if it's something that
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  Speaker 3: works without putting drugs in your body that cause a
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  Speaker 3: million other health issues, it's all about money. And that's
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  Speaker 3: what they want because they don't want to heal you.
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  Speaker 3: They want sick patients, because sick patients equal what money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom went with me to the one appointment
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  Speaker 2: and she asked the lady how much it costs out
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  Speaker 2: of pocket, and she said it was eight hundred dollars
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  Speaker 2: for the initial visit, and then I believe she said
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  Speaker 2: it was like seven hundred or six hundred for the
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  Speaker 2: other sessions. So six hundred dollars every day.
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  Speaker 3: That's a lot of money for.
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  Speaker 2: For what a month. I'm going a little bit over
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  Speaker 2: a month thirty six sessions time, six hundred dollars is
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  Speaker 2: a lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that it's like twenty one thousand dollars over that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Number one. I mean, I understand the machinery costs money.
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  Speaker 3: I understand training the technicians that cost money, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't think it costs six hundred dollars a day.
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  Speaker 2: No, So, yes, we do.
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  Speaker 3: It needs everything needs a revamp. Honestly, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: The machines are fifty two thousand dollars, so okay. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so they are expensive, but if you get three patients
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  Speaker 2: in a month, yeah, you've paid it off. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: more than paid.
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  Speaker 3: They need to revamp things, I think so that more
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  Speaker 3: people have access to this, and I definitely agree with that,
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  Speaker 3: but it is something that I don't think that they
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  Speaker 3: should have patients having to try two different chemical you know,
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  Speaker 3: medications before they can try this one that is better
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  Speaker 3: for you. I and there's like an eighty six percent
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  Speaker 3: rate of it working, right.
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  Speaker 2: Eighty two percent eighty success rates. Yeah, and I've done
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  Speaker 2: a lot of research. I have seen a few people
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  Speaker 2: say that it didn't work for them, but maybe they
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  Speaker 2: didn't try it for that long. Like one guy said
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  Speaker 2: he only tried it for a week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: You can't do that. It didn't work. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: not going to help you within.
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  Speaker 3: A week, thirty six consecutive sessions except for Sunday, so
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  Speaker 3: you have one day off. Yeah, and if you can't
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  Speaker 3: do that, then you can't say it didn't work. You
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  Speaker 3: need to do all your sessions. And that's worth it
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  Speaker 3: to me. It's absolutely worth it to not be And
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I get people have jobs and they have lives,
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  Speaker 3: but they really I've noticed with you. They have open schedule,
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  Speaker 3: they have late appointments, they have Saturday appointments so you
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  Speaker 3: or early early appointments. They can make it work. And
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  Speaker 3: you can make it work if that means sacrificing for
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  Speaker 3: thirty six days to get yourself better and off of medication,
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  Speaker 3: I would one hundred percent do that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you know a lot of people they said,
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  Speaker 2: travel to the place because there's only so many certain offices. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so a lot of people travel. And they said they
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  Speaker 2: understand that, you know, traveling and getting your is hard,
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  Speaker 2: but you have to at least come three days a
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  Speaker 2: week for it to work. Yeah, which I'm doing six
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  Speaker 2: days a week because I saw that the five days
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  Speaker 2: a week was not enough. Yeah, but that was my
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  Speaker 2: first week, so can't really count that. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: thirty six weeks, I go six days a week. I
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  Speaker 2: absolutely love it. It helps and we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll just keep talking about it and hopefully
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  Speaker 3: more people here and learn, and maybe they make more
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  Speaker 3: offices over and that becomes that becomes the norm. Versus
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  Speaker 3: a million doctor offices everywhere. They should be more of
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  Speaker 3: these everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you think about it, you're on medication.
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  Speaker 2: You have to be on medication for two to three
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  Speaker 2: months to feel a difference and for it to get
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  Speaker 2: into your body. And then if it's not working, you
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  Speaker 2: either have to increase it, which is what they do
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  Speaker 2: to me, and then when it really doesn't work, they're like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, we're not gonna increase it anymore. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: take you off of it and try something else.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's annoying.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of these drugs had the bad
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  Speaker 3: side effects.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I have family that were on xanax and they would
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  Speaker 3: be passing out, their sleeping they're zombies, you know, or
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  Speaker 3: it just and it's dangerous. You know, it's dangers. You
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  Speaker 3: can get addicted to things, you can so crash your car.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my doctor said he wanted me to try the
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  Speaker 2: xanax a very low dose for two weeks and then
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  Speaker 2: he was gonna take me off of it because it's
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  Speaker 2: addicting and I could have side effects. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: why would I do that? Why?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Why?
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  Speaker 3: It's you know, medication is important in certain situations, but hey,
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  Speaker 3: if this has an eighty two percent success rate, that
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  Speaker 3: should be that should be the first step, not medication.
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  Speaker 3: It should be this, and then if it doesn't work, okay, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: we have to move you to prescription drugs. That's how
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  Speaker 3: I would do it, and that's how it should be done.
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  Speaker 3: And hey, but who am I right? I can't make
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  Speaker 3: the rules.
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  Speaker 2: I agree though they should have different options for different people.
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  Speaker 3: We need to get this to RFK and maybe he
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  Speaker 3: can put that out there. You know, he believes in
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  Speaker 3: a lot of this kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And I doubt he even knows about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't know, but that is something
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  Speaker 3: my friend knows him. So maybe I'll have her send
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  Speaker 3: it to him, be like, hey, get this out there.
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  Speaker 3: So I was on Facebook and This question came up
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  Speaker 3: in one of the mom's groups and I found it
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  Speaker 3: was kind of interesting and I just want to hear
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  Speaker 3: your answer to it. So the question was, what's something
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  Speaker 3: that people brag about that you find really weird to
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  Speaker 3: brag about when.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have money but you go on vacation and
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  Speaker 2: or you say like, oh look, I just bought a
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  Speaker 2: brand new car. But then like next week you're saying
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  Speaker 2: how you have no money, or the week before you're
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  Speaker 2: so poor, but yet you just bought a new car
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  Speaker 2: or went on a lavish vacation. That drives me insane.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like keep it to yourself, don't be bragging
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  Speaker 3: about it when we know the true story, right, or
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  Speaker 3: like it makes no sense.
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  Speaker 2: The best part is do not ask me for money
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  Speaker 2: and then the two weeks later go on vacation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that would piss me off. I don't
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  Speaker 3: like when people do that or they brag about there.
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  Speaker 3: There's this one girl who I know, and she constantly
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  Speaker 3: is asking for money. I've sent her money because I
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  Speaker 3: feel bad she just kids. I can't feed my kids.
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  Speaker 3: But then a week.
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  Speaker 2: Later she's getting her nails.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she puts her nails on there, or she
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  Speaker 3: got a new tattoo, or they were out to eat
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  Speaker 3: at a restaurant, and I was like, I sorry, but
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  Speaker 3: it's it. It really irks me. It irks me because
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  Speaker 3: I I am not poor, I'm not rich, but when
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  Speaker 3: I was struggling a little bit, or bills are tight,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't get my nails done for over two years.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm like, nope, got to cut that out.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't eat out, you know, we made sacrifices. And
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  Speaker 3: it feels like a lot of people don't make sacrifices.
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  Speaker 3: They get some money, they blow it, and then they're
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  Speaker 3: back to begging for money and pulling on the heart
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  Speaker 3: strings like I can't feed my kids. But yeah, that
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  Speaker 3: pisses me off that I agree with that. For me,
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  Speaker 3: it's designer.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff you hate.
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  Speaker 3: I hate designer stuff. Like it's not that I hate
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  Speaker 3: some of it looks nice. I hate people who think
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  Speaker 3: it's cool or think it or they brag about it
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  Speaker 3: and show off that, Oh, my bag has someone else's
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  Speaker 3: name across it. Why would you want someone to name
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  Speaker 3: all on your bag?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 3: And it's usually ugly patterns, but we're so conditioned that
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  Speaker 3: that's what rich people have and that is cool, and
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  Speaker 3: that is stylish, and that's going to make you seem
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  Speaker 3: a certain way that in our heads, even me, sometimes
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  Speaker 3: I'm guilty. I'm like, you know, someone offered me a
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  Speaker 3: Louis Vuitton bag ones but all the the little initials
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  Speaker 3: on it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's ugly.
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  Speaker 3: But in my head, I'm like, oh, wow, you know
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  Speaker 3: that's a designer person maybe, And I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Like, stop it, stop it.
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  Speaker 3: You're getting that brainwashed mentality of like you need that
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  Speaker 3: to look a certain way and feel a certain way
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  Speaker 3: about yourself. And I hate when people brag like, oh
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  Speaker 3: I got a Fendi bag and I got this bag.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I have my Louis Buiton shoes with the red heels.
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  Speaker 3: You don't want those heels because they look nice, you
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  Speaker 3: want them because they have the red bottom. So everyone knows, Wow,
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  Speaker 3: does she have money?
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  Speaker 1: Who is she?
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  Speaker 3: Wow? She's spent how much on those? I was saying
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  Speaker 3: to someone about it. I'm like, I always sting in
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  Speaker 3: my head when people are like, oh I just got
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  Speaker 3: my Louis Baton blah blah blah. I'm like the Shanaia
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  Speaker 3: song that zone impressed me. Yeah, I'm always saying that
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  Speaker 3: to myself, and I actually it's opposite. For me, I
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  Speaker 3: kind of like judge you. I'm like, you wasted how
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  Speaker 3: much money on a bag on a pair of shoes?
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  Speaker 3: And then I judge you. I'm like, well you're not
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  Speaker 3: very uh whise with your money then. But someone told
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  Speaker 3: me I shouldn't do that because everyone spends their money differently.
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  Speaker 3: For me, I have a friend who spends five grand
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  Speaker 3: three grand on a purse, or eight hundred dollars on
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  Speaker 3: a pair of sunglasses that say Tory Birch on them.
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  Speaker 3: I can't fathom that. I go and get my sunglasses
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  Speaker 3: at TJ Max for like nine dollars ten dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Are you talking about me? No? Do you have Tory
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  Speaker 2: Birch glasses? No?
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm not talking about you.
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  Speaker 2: But I do have name brand sunglasses.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, I mean but you it's different, like you
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  Speaker 3: go get your eyes done, you know, it's a part
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  Speaker 3: of your your prescription.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking about people who literally go into like a
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  Speaker 3: name brand designer store to buy eight hundred dollars sunglasses
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  Speaker 3: just because it has the initials on it and they
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  Speaker 3: look like glasses I can get at Walmart or at
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  Speaker 3: the ones I get at TJ Max, you know, or
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  Speaker 3: a Marshall.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Funny thing that you say that My mom's old coworker
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  Speaker 2: slash front worked in a factory, in a purse factory.
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  Speaker 2: And she told me that the persons that you see
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  Speaker 2: at Walmart and the like Michael Core's Louis Vuitton are
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  Speaker 2: all made at the same factory. They just slap on
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  Speaker 2: it's the same exact purse. But they'll just slap on
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  Speaker 2: like Michael Core's logo and a Walmart logo and then
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  Speaker 2: two different price tags. Yeah, but it's the same purse,
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  Speaker 2: she said. So once she told me that, I was like, really,
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  Speaker 2: And then I saw her again recently and my mom's like,
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  Speaker 2: do you want to remind my daughter about this? You
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  Speaker 2: know where you used to work. And she was telling
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  Speaker 2: me and she's like yeah, She's like, it's all the
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  Speaker 2: same stuff. And I'm like, but really, like Baton or
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  Speaker 2: like Valentino, isn't that like Italian leather? I would leather?
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  Speaker 2: And she said, sometimes it's different, but most of the
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  Speaker 2: time it's the same factory.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree that it's probably the same factory and
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  Speaker 3: probably the same design plan, like how it's going to
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  Speaker 3: look but I'm I know the designer brands they use
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  Speaker 3: like genuine Italian leather, and they use like velvet or suede,
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  Speaker 3: whereas I have bought a purse at Walmart that looked nice,
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  Speaker 3: but it was fake leather and then the color appeals off,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I would say that's
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  Speaker 3: where I agree, Yes, designer might it might last longer.
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  Speaker 3: It definitely will last longer. It's better quality. But I
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  Speaker 3: could get a leather purse that's cheaper because that's not designer,
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  Speaker 3: just a real leather, you know. So that's all. It's
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  Speaker 3: just that I know people. People don't go and go,
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  Speaker 3: I'm buying that Louis Vuitton purse because it's going to
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  Speaker 3: last me a long time. They go, I'm buying that
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  Speaker 3: Louis Vuitton person because it's going to make me feel
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  Speaker 3: a certain way and look a certain way to people.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to fit in and I want to
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  Speaker 3: look like I have money, and I want to look,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like I am a fashionista celebrity.
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  Speaker 2: That is where my problem is celebrity.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's where my problem lies, is like people
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  Speaker 3: using it for that and not doing it because they
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  Speaker 3: truly love it. It's just that I want to fit in.
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  Speaker 3: I want to look a certain way. So that's when
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  Speaker 3: I hate when people brag, Like I just roll my eyes,
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  Speaker 3: but for me, people might roll their eyes at me.
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  Speaker 3: I like spending my money on vacations. That three thousand
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  Speaker 3: and five thousand dollars purse is a beautiful vacation for
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  Speaker 3: me to go to Europe or to go to the
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  Speaker 3: Cayman Islands or that's where I see and I get
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  Speaker 3: a week with my family, my kids, and we enjoy
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  Speaker 3: ourselves and we do excursions. Like to me, people might
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  Speaker 3: roll their eyes at that. You know, I'm like, oh
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  Speaker 3: my god, like you're wasting money. So I guess I'm
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  Speaker 3: trying to learn that it's all different for other people.
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  Speaker 3: But that's my little rate rant there about what I
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  Speaker 3: hate about bragging. And I agree with yours too, because
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  Speaker 3: those are two things that really irk me.
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  Speaker 2: Yes and the other thing that really irks me lately,
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  Speaker 2: my mom is turning seventy. She wants a seventieth birthday party.
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  Speaker 2: I asked her if she wanted a vacation. She said no,
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  Speaker 2: And we have a huge family. There was two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and forty something people invited. Oh my god, we had
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  Speaker 2: to cut the party list way down. And the other
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  Speaker 2: thing that really pisses me off is that I said, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: no kids, then just do like the adults, and my
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  Speaker 2: mom's like, Nope, you can't because you know so and
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  Speaker 2: so will be offended or this one will be offended,
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  Speaker 2: and we have to invite this one because we're inviting
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  Speaker 2: this one, and well this one's in a feud with
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  Speaker 2: this one, so I don't think this one will Oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, I'm like, you know what. So finally I said,
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  Speaker 2: me and my cousin are throwing the party, and we
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  Speaker 2: said we're inviting everyone, and whoever doesn't show up, they
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  Speaker 2: don't show up, and we're leaving it at that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but we did cut the list way down and it's hard.
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  Speaker 3: So what was the point of it though?
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  Speaker 2: So my point is is that people will get offended,
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  Speaker 2: but yet you know you're not paying for it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: do you want to pay for your eight kids that
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  Speaker 2: you know you want to show up?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead go pay for them, because I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Not is it's people like it sucks as a parent
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  Speaker 3: when someone when a party says no kids. It's sometimes
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  Speaker 3: is hard, especially if it's out of state or far.
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  Speaker 3: Like my family has throws parties in Long Island and
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  Speaker 3: I know it's going to be an overnight thing and
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  Speaker 3: like no kids. I'm like, well, now I have to
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  Speaker 3: find an overnight sitter. So that's where I get frustrated.
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  Speaker 3: But when it's like a local thing, I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: go sit with the you know, go sit with it, Gabby.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going I'm going to this party and people need
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  Speaker 3: to realize that, yes, like you said, it costs money.
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  Speaker 3: My wedding, I said, no kids.
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  Speaker 2: Did it cause a scene, did it cause a fight?
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  Speaker 3: There was a few that wanted to bring their kids,
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  Speaker 3: and when I said no, they got upset, and I understood.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I get it. I've also been on the
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  Speaker 3: other end of it, where I when I had my daughter,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: she was breastfeeding, and if you remember Julina, she still
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: is a kling on, but she was a cling on baby.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: She wouldn't take a bottle and I had a baby
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: shower to go to that was almost two hours away
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: from me and I she didn't take a bottle, so
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I couldn't leave a bottle with my husband to take
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: care of her. So I'm like, I'm just gonna bring
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: her because it didn't say anywhere on the invitation no kids.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, she's only she's only five months old.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: What's the big deal. You know, she's not taking she's
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: not gonna eat, she's not taking up. And I walked
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: into the baby shower pushing the stroller and everyone stared
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: at me, and the mother of the girl ran over
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: and said, why did you bring the baby? Oh my god,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: this is going to be a problem.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm like what.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: And then the.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Mother it was, or the girl that the party was four,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: she ran over to me and was like, oh my god,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I wish you would have asked me. I said, I
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: don't want kids here. I already told two other people no.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I felt like such an asshole, Like I felt horrible.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not blaming them. They didn't but it didn't say
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: it in the invitation, like no kids, you know, And
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I figured, well, they'll understand she's a baby and she's breastfeeding.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: But they were like really upset with me, and I
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: did not enjoy that party after that. It like really
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: messed with me, and I felt so stupid and I
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: just ended up leaving early because I just felt like
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: an like an asshole, you know. So I've been on
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: the other end of it, and I was a little frustrated, Like,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: even though I felt bad for them, I'm like, she's
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: a baby and she's breastfeeding. She didn't cry, she didn't
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: interrupt the party. I could see if a baby was screaming,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: then the parents should take them out.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: But which is surprising to me that she didn't cry.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: No, she was she was good. She slept and then
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: she was she'd be on my boob, you know. But yeah,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: it was really it really messed with me that day,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: and I so I had mixed feelings with it, like
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I understood, but then I'm like, I hope I wish
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: it was like a little more clear, and they know
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I just had a baby. I mean, maybe I should
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: have asked, I guess, but I would never even at
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: a wedding. At my wedding, I think there was someone
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: who had a newborn, yes, and I told her she
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: could bring the baby it was like two months old.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Because I understand as a mom that you don't want
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: to leave your infant with a stranger or a babysitter,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: and you need if you're breastfeeding, you need to be
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: able to breastfeed them that I understand. It's when you
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: have the little kids running around everywhere, you know, Yeah,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: that's the bad one.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Like you wouldn't bring her to a party now no
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: no no adults or whatever.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Or even if it didn't say no kids, Like I
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: went to a baby shower recently. It didn't stay on
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: the invitation no kids. But I would never just bring
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: her because she's at that age. But a baby, I
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: just I don't know. I feel like a baby should
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: always be able to come. And the wedding, I you know,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I do weddings as a side business as a caterer.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: And the wedding I just went to the other night.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: They had three babies there and then they had two toddlers.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: So the toddlers are running around on the dance floor,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: which is cute. She probably was a flower girl, but
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: the babies were all there and I was like, this
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: is amazing, you know. And they were like a Persian family,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: so that's important to them to have family there. But
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I thought it was really a nice the bride allowed them.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: There's three infants, and that's great, you know, help a
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: mom out. It's hard for us to number one leave
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: our infants with people and if you're especially if they're breastfeeding.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: So if you're listening to this, try and keep that
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: in mind when you plan parties with infants involved.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: So this week is the Real Abilities Expo in New
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: York City and it is going on for I believe
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the next week, week and a half and all over
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: like New Jersey. I believe as well. They're going to
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: be showing different disability friendly movies with different disabled physically
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: disabled stars. So me and you were invited, but you
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: have to work. So I am going. I cannot wait.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I'm going to meet Ali Stroker and r J. Mitty.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I love him. I watched him in Breaking Bad and
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: he was absolutely amazing. And I remember ten Sean. I'm like,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: oh my god, he has CP and he's so cute.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: He was amazing in it. And Ali was in Ozark,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: which I watched Ozark too. So it's crazy that both
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: of those shows because I don't watch a lot of shows,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: but both of those shows, they both they were in.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: And it's it's.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: You're always talking to me about shows you watch.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I guess he's I guess, so, but I don't. I
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: guess I don't watch like the mainstream ones like I mean,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I love certain ones, but the mainstream ones like Game
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: of Thrones, I've never seen people like what that medical
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: show they yeah, the ones that everyone watches, or the
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: zombie one. I never seen any of those. So I
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: feel like I'm always not watching the ones that are
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: in the spotlight. But I do watch shows, but it's
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: just stuff that's not really in the spotlight, you know. Yeah,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: But Breaking Bad was huge and Ozark was huge, So
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I finally watched those two and they both were in them.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: They were great.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I never seen either one of them, but I
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: guess I will have to now. But I'm really looking
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: forward to meeting them both. And we interviewed Ali the
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: other day and we're going to get into her interview
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: today on the show. We are so excited to have
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Tony Award winner Ali Stroker on the show. And she
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: is being awarded or honored, i should say, at this
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: year's Real Abilities Film Festival in New York, and I
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: can't wait to meet you in person. But you are
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: going to be celebrating powerful authentic disability storytelling there, and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: you've been in tons of films and Broadway. I think
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: the first time that we actually spoke was Spring Awakening,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: which yes, many years ago. Yes, But so what is
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: being honored by Real Abilities mean to you on a
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: personal level?
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I, first of all, love Real Abilities so much.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: You know the fact that they have these events all
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: over the country. I've been to more than just New
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: York Real Abilities. I've been to one in Houston and
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: all over the country. And basically what it does is
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: it celebrates artists in the disabled community who are making
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: work that creates more representation. And that is such a
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: passion of mine. And I really feel like it is
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: an honor because in so many ways, this is exactly
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: what I needed as a kid and as a teenager
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: to see authentic representation. I remember just constantly looking for
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: people like me in the world. You know, we didn't
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: have social media, and so this is so important and
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: to be honored at this event feels like a dream
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: come true. And I know Little Ali would be so proud,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and Big Ali is too.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I just recently heard about Real Abilities. I did not
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: even know it existed.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Oh cool, Well, welcome to the to the family, to
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the Real Abilities Family.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I'm really excited because you know, I've been in the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: entertainment business a very long time, and you kind of
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: get shunned a little bit, you know, you kind of
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: get like pushed away. My experience where they have somebody all,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: you know, you can't do this or you can't do that,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: and blah blah blah blah blah blah. Do you ever
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: find that or do you think that there's like a
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: switch happening since we were younger.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: It's a great question. I think that we have made
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: huge strides as far as disabled representation, both like integrated
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: into mainstream and also I think it's really important that
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: we have these events that are disability focused, because, like
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: you're saying, I don't think that is an environment where
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: people are looking at limitations. You know, I live by
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: this motto of turning your limitations into opportunities, and so
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: that's how I live that. If somebody sees a limitation
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: at this point in my life, I feel confident enough
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: to say, Okay, I hear you, and also look at
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the opportunity. Look at all the ways in which we
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: can get creative to use this limitation, this disability to
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: make a project, a piece of art better. Like that
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: is my emo, and so I totally hear you, Shanna
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: about feeling shunned, and you know, the world is not
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: is not always made for us. It doesn't always feel
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: like we are accepted in all of our power and beauty.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: But I really I feel like I am a part
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: of this movement of changing that, and a huge piece
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: of it is representation. And that's why I continue to
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: stay in this business, right because it's really hard. It
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: is really hard. Even with a Tony Award and Broadway
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: shows on my resume, I still am trying to create
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: work and figure this out and find, you know, my
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: next job. And so I think all, you know, all
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: experiences are so so so valid and so important to
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: talk about. And I just hope that I am a
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: part of, you know, shifting that and making more authentic representation.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: And I think Real Abilities is doing that as well.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: So for someone who's never, like us, knew about Real
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Abilities or checked it out, what are they missing out on?
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: What can they expect there?
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So Real Abilities is a film festival and they
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: show a film that has authentic representation around disability and
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: they invite you know, not just the disabled community, but
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you know, people from the industry, And I think that
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: highlighting right that our community exists in this industry and
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: that we are working and making beautiful films and art
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: is essential. Like, this is something that I think anyone
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: would enjoy and love because in so many ways, I
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: think that disability and ability is something that we can
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: all connect on, right, Because at some point in your life,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: no matter what, you are going to feel the fragility
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: of life. Right, And so I think it's just a
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: very It's an intimate film festival, right, It's not like
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of people, so you really get to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: meet other people like you or who are like minded.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: And I really believe that anyone would really enjoy this.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Now, is there going to be producers there? And had
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: maybe you could get your next gig? Like has has
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: that ever happened?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I Mean, here's the thing about showing up is that
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you are always going to meet people and you never
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: know what it will lead to, you know. I I
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: love these events because not only would you might meet
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: a producer, but you might meet somebody else with a
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: disability who really gets what wavelength you're on. And yeah,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I mean anytime you show up somewhere and you meet people,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: you never know what it's going to lead to. And uh,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: you know, I live by expect nothing, appreciate everything, because
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I think when you have certain expectations sometimes you get disappointed.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: But in this particular situation, you will meet people, whether
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: they're producers, other actors, agents, this is a community of
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: people that are wanting to make work and create authentic
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: representation in the disability community.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: And I really think that Netflix is going towards that
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: direction with Love on the Spectrum. I just have to
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: say I love the show. I know this is like
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: totally off topic, but.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: No, it's not off topic. It's so important that you're
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: highlighting this because I can't tell you how many people
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: have come up to me and they're like, oh, I
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: love Love on the Spectrum. I think it's like one
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: of the most beautiful shows because it really does show
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: kind of the intimacy and vulnerabilities around disability, but also
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: like celebrating and being like also like this is who
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I am, this is my world, and it's beautiful and
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: wonderful and watching people fall in love with each other's
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: it's feel good TV.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, and I think that we need more of that, yeah,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: you know, on mainstream and regular TV. I just I
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: think we do.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I like it because it shows the struggles obviously you
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: could see, yes, things are different, but it also shows
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: that they're just as human as the next person, and
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: they deserve love and they enjoy life and they have fun,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: and they get sad and they get mad. And I
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: think that's important to see because years ago there was
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: always a stigma around autism and oh they don't have
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: the same feelings or they don't need the same things,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: or they don't want the same things, and we all do.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: We're all the same, you.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Know, absolutely absolutely, I agree with you. I think it's
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: a beautiful show.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Now when you first got into the industry,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: did you feel like you had to represent the entire
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: disability community.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I remember feeling like, oh gosh, like, am I
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: gonna have to speak on behalf of a whole community?
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: And I was really nervous about that because I mean,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: as you know, like you put two people in a
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: room with the exact same disability, and you know, their
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: experiences could be totally two ends of the spectrum, right,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: So it felt it felt scary. But I remember having
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: this conversation with my dad about like, you know, how
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: do I do this? How do I speak on disability?
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: And I don't really know if I want to, Like,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: maybe it's something that I won't you know, I won't talk.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: And he was like, Ali, who are you not to, right, Like,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: if you're getting opportunities in this industry and there's very
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: little representation, you have to talk about it. And yes,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: it's like Shanna, you shared, like, this is my experience,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: but it's important to be It's important that it is
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: expressed and that people hear what it is like because
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: as a society, we're taught around disability to not act, ask,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: don't point, and don't stare, which I think creates a
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: massive divide, right, so people with who are able bodied,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: who don't know what it's like to have a disability
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: are completely left in the dark. And that's what we're taught,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: you know, is being polite, right. But the problem is
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: then it's not talked about. Right. So that's why I
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: was scared, of course, about feeling like I was going
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: to be, you know, speaking about disability and for the community.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: But now I feel like it's such an honor because
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: my experience is my experience, just like anyone else. But
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: to be representing means a lot, and I know it
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: means a lot to a lot of people because I
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: was one of those people as a kid, looking for
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: people with disabilities in these positions, in leadership positions in
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the industry, working on Broadway, on TV shows and movies,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: like I wanted to believe that my narrative was going
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: to be represented and in so many ways. I don't
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: know if you feel this way, Shanna, but like as
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: a kid, I was always looking for love stories where
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: there was someone with a disability because I wanted to
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: believe that I could have that in my life, right,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: like the relationship and the love story could be mine too.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: But I was scared because I didn't ever see the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: right and so yes, and like when I did this
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Christmas move. I did a Christmas movie on Lifetime called
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Christmas ever After, and it's about you know, I played
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the main character who like has this love story and
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: it's not about being in a chair. It's not about disability.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: It's just like one of those fun love stories that
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: we see around Christmas time, you know, on Lifetime. And
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many people come up to
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: me and they're like, I love that movie because it's
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: not about disability, it's about love. And to see myself
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: represented just means so much because I want to know
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: that I can have that narrative, that I can be
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: in a love story too.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever thought about writing? Yes?
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't, you know, I have so many
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: friends who are like real writers, but I have written books.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: And I also feel like, if there's something you want
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: to do, just find somebody who's good at it and
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: do it with them. Right, So, you know, a rom com,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: these sort of you know, projects are dream projects, right.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I actually recently was in a rom com that's about
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: to come out on Netflix called it's called Office Romance,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and it's with j Lo and I just think she
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: is the queen she rom coms. And she's obviously the lead,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: and I have a all part. But it's just so
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: cool to be in a movie like that because as
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: as a teenager as you know, like a woman in
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: my twenties thirties, now, you know, I love those movies
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: like rom coms are so fun, and so I was
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: really honored to be a part of it.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: What was it like working with her?
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: She's amazing. She's such a force, you know, I mean,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: she's unbelievable. She's done and how many you know industries.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: She's crossed over music and acting. She's just amazing, she
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: really is. She's and so so beautiful.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Wow Wowow she's gorgeous.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Is she real? Yeah? Yeah she is. She is, and
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: she works hard.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: I get Yeah, what do you think the industry still
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: gets wrong when they are representing the disabled community.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I just really believe in authentic casting. So I think
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: it's a missed opportunity when there's a story about somebody
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: with disability and they cast an able bodied actor. I
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: think that that's a miss But you know, other than that,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I just want there to be more right. I just
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: want you know, you think about how huge our community is. Right,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: one in four Americans identify is having a disability. And
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: so I just want to see more stories, more narratives,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: you know, stories about disability, stories with disabled actors, and
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: they're not about the disability. Like I want to see
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: everything because it all exists and I think it's all
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: really important.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I blame the producers and the writing. I
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: don't want to say the writers, but whoever picks the
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: actors like, I blame them.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: They might think it's the easier way out than you know,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: we'll just use that able body person instead of like
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: she said, authentic is real and you could see you
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: see that in the film, and you know, it's not
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: that they're not acting, you know.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that people well you know, this is
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: obviously how I look at it and how I feel
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: about it. But you know, I think that they do
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: their best, and I think there's a lot of factors involved,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: whether it's accessibility or you know, whatever it is that
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: they're trying to create. But you know, sometimes I do
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: think that it's a miss, you know, that they don't.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: But also, I want to put this in the conversation.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be cast just because of my disability, right,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I want to be cast because I'm the best actor.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: So there's another side of me that's like, well, maybe
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not right for the role. I have the disability.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: It's like somebody's like, well I have the brown eyes,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: but like I'm not right for this part. And so
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: there's another part of me that's like, I really want
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: to be cast because I'm the right actor, not just
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: because of my disability. So there's a lot of components
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: to it. But if it's a story about disability, I
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: think that it's important to authentically cast that. That's my opinion.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I agree, because I think you can
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: tell a lot of the time or I mean, some
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: actors are really great and you're like, wow, like they
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: played that part amazing. Like I forget his name in
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: one of the movies back in the day, but he
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: played I was just shocked and like he didn't have
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: a disability and you would never have known, you know.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, So with everything you've done, do you
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: feel like you still have to prove yourself more than others?
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: You know? I think, uh, I think that for all
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: of us, whether you have a disability or not, you're
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: always trying to reinvent yourself depending on what season of
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: life you're in. And you know, I try to do
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of personal work on myself to feel confident
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: enough to know that I don't need to prove myself,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: that I bring a certain set and skill set, that
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I bring a certain kind of energy, a certain kind
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: of essence to my work, and I trust that. And
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I think the tone me really really helped my confidence.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, like I am a human being,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: like we were talking about before, so I still do
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: have insecure moments or wondering, you know, what do other
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: people think of me. I think that's normal and natural,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: but I try not to indulge in that thought too often.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I try to think about, like, what am I able
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: to do in my life to create the opportunities that
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I want to create the life that I want. And
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: you know, my life changed so much since being on
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Broadway and you know, winning a Tony Award. I now
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: am married, I have a three year old son, I
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: live forty five minutes outside of the city, and I
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: have other priorities. I still, of course want to work,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: but right now in my life, I'm doing other things
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: so that I can be home more because I really
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: really want to be around for my son. And you know,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: the industry is very, very demanding, right so in so
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: many ways, I think that I'm constantly reinventing myself, not
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: for the industry necessarily, but for myself and you know,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: finding my worth in all different kinds of things, not
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: just my work. I love it.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: I think being a mom is the most important job
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: and the legacy you're going to leave, you know.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Is you're raising it. And yeah, it's also the hardest
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: thing I've ever done. Is it's hard just because you're
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: pushed to a point beyond what you think you can do.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, you're just so tired at
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: times or frustrated, and you're dealing with this beautiful, amazing
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: human being that you made. But like at the same time,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: you're sure are like, I gotta get out of here.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like you can't clock out. So it's
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: it's just it's I thought being on Broadway was the
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: hardest thing I'd ever done until I had my son,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh, this is definitely the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: hardest thing I've ever done, but also the most rewarding
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: thing I've ever done. So you know, always that's nice.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: You can't clock outy work is hard, but at least
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: I can go sneak a lunch break. I can let
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: me go.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: For a drive.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: And when you have kids, it's like you don't get that.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: No, they're not giving lunch breaks. Lunch breaks.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: I worked my other job, I work an event, and
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: I was working an event. I got home at two
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: am last night, and I'm so tired. In your kids,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: they don't know they wake you up. Still, at the
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: same time, I was like, she's six am in my face.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Mommy, yeah, baby, oh yeah, no breaks.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: No.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: We were up at three point thirty last night. Why
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know who knows, but you know we were
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: in were in bed and then we're like, all right,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: let's go on the couch and you know, I have
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: to sing tonight on a Broadway stage for a big event.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: And it's like, no matter what you know, you you
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: continue on because it's what we do and it's what
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: we know. But it's hard. It's really hard to be like, Okay,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I have the will today to work tonight at nine pm,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: even though I was up from three thirty to four thirty,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: you know, and you just keep moving forward, badasses?
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Right now?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Can you take him with you to different events and
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: to practices and some things?
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: You know, some is work. So it's like not necessarily
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I brought him, Like when I traveled a little bit
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: when he was younger, my mom would come and like
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: we would all go and it was great when he
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: was like willing to like stay in a stroller. Right
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: like now he's like ready to run the event. Yeah,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: but he's like, honey, I want to go on the stage.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: You know. So you know, his his energy and what
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: he wants from me is a bit conflicting when I
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: get to work, so I don't always I don't I
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: normally bring him as much, but I really do. Like
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I've brought him to the Rolettes Experience, which is the
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: event in Los Angeles every summer Chelsea hill Elsey. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: And I've brought him a bunch of times because it's
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: really important to me that he knows that, like, mommy's
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: not the only one who uses a wheelchair, right, Like
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: there's this whole, amazing, beautiful community. And it was really cute.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: He was like he was young. He was like, I
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: want to say, almost two, right, So he was like
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: just walking and when he was looking around, he would
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: like run to somebody who was blonde in a wheelchair,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: and it was like, no, that's not that's a different
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: person who's blonde in a wheelchair. He was like a
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: little confused at first, but then of course, you know,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, a baby knows their mama. He knew
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: where I was. But yeah, it's really important to me
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: that he is exposed to our community because it's so beautiful.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I think it's important for all children to be exposed
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: to the disabled community. I was in TJ Max last year,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: and a little girl must have said something to her mother,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: and the mother followed me through the store, through the checkout,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: through the parking lot to the car and said, excuse me,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: and yelled at her daughter for like staring at me. Yeah,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: and you know, and she's like, you need to you
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: need to apologize, you need to apologize. Meanwhile, I don't
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: know what the lady.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Was talking about.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: He didn't even notice, but yeah, and she's just like you.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: She's just like you. And I'm like, oh god.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: That's not like make this like a disciplining moment. Like
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: I always tell you exactly parents, Like at a playground
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: right with my son, like the kids are like why
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: are you in that? You know, why do you have
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: a wheelchair? You know, it's so it's so funny to many,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and you know, always tell the parents. Yeah. I always
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: tell the parents like it's all good, Like questions are
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: so important, Like curiosity is so important, and it's so
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: great that they're being exposed to it now. And you know,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I always like take the you know, I use my
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: wheelchair because my legs don't work. I was injured and
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: this is the way I get around. Do you like
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: my wheels. Yeah, I really like them. You know, this
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: is how I push my chair. I want to push
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: your chair. You know, there's just like such an opportunity there,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: yes for kids and parents to see that, like this
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a scary moment, right, And if
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: a child is staring, it's because they're seeing something that
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I've never seen before. And so I always I always
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: try to, like, you know, first, actually address the parents
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: because they think that they have shame, or they feel embarrassed,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: or they feel like they don't know how to handle
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: a situation. And I'm like, don't worry, I got this.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: And he said it earlier, which I always tell my
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: kids is you know, when I grew up, my cousin
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: she was in a wheelchair and we so it was
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: like second nature to us because we spent every day
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: with her. But then when we would go out with her,
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: you'd see the kids staring. So when I had kids,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: I like what you said, like, don't teach kids to
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: not look or look the other way, don't point and
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: stare at me, Say look at them and say hi.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: You know, I was told my kids say hi, say hi.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, so that it became normal engage this is somebody
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: who's just like a regular person. They just get around differently,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: or their body is just different or whatever it is.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: But like, it's such an opportunity for parents, And now
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: that I am a parent, I just feel so strongly
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: that we engage in these moments. We don't push them down,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: we don't push them aside, and we don't shame. We
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: don't shame our children for being curious about disability. It's okay,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: it's normal. There's something different here. They're trying to process
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: what this is. Right. And I have a children's book
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: called Ali and the Sea Stars and it doesn't have
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: anything to do with disability. It's just about a little
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: girl named Ali who puts on a show at the
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: beach on the boardwalk. But I just love that it
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: exists because you can read a children's book with a
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: main character who's in a wheelchair and they're just in
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: a wheelchair. It's yeah, like there's nothing, let's do it.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: You know. It's just like normalizing our world and the
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: people in it.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Definitely, it's so important. And what would you say to
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: a young person that has the disability that wants to
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: get into acting.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I would say, get involved in as many events, clubs, shows,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: opportunities as you can. The more you do theater, the
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: better you get at it. It's like it's like a
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: muscle that you have to develop and strengthen. And I
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: think with the arts you do that by being completely involved.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: And if you don't get cast in a show, do costumes,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: do makeup, do stage management, help with crew, help with lighting.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: There are so many ways to be involved. So if
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: you don't get your first pick of being the lead,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: if you get cast in a smaller part, do that.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: You're gonna learn so much. You learn so much by doing.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: And then my other piece is like, don't wait for
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: other people to cast you make your own art, make
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: your own theater. You don't need anyone's permission to make
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: theater right. You can do it in your backyard. You
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: could do it in your bedroom, you could do it
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: in your attic, you could do it in your kitchen.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: You know, and ask your friends who also love theater.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Surround yourself with people who are also as passionate as
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: you are. And if you can't find those people, you know,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: ask your parents to, you know, get you involved in
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: some kind of theater club or class you know, and
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: then you're going to find more people who love it,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: and then you know you're gonna make friends because you
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: find people who are like minded. And if you have
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: a disability and people are telling me you can't dance,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: you can't do this, you know, you say, okay, I
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: hear you, and also I can, I want to show
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: you how I do what I do. I move differently.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I have a different what I like to call physical vocabulary. Right,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: so you turn on two feet, I turn on two wheels.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: You know you can do jump I can do wheelies.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: You know you do certain moves with your legs. I
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: translate them and in those moves and do them with
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: my arms. There's so much creativity that you can pour
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: into your expression if you have a disability, like so
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: much creativity. It gets me so excited in so many ways.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is how my mind works. It's
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: like a mechanism that has been growing since I was
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: a little girl, because I did experience people saying you
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: can't do this, you can't do that, you can't walk,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: you can't dance, And yeah, you're right, I cannot walk
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: and I cannot dance like you. But I move, I wheel,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I push, I turn and I dance like me, and
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be anyone else but me. And
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: you know that takes years, right, that's not like that
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: a given right. It takes a lot of time to
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: really embrace who you are and what you do. But
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: surround yourself with people who believe in you, and you know, explore,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: put music on in your room and move around and
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: see how you express yourself physically. You know, it's it's possible.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: And now we have the Internet, which sound like a grandmother,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: but like it's so wonderful. Right, Like if you want
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: to dance and you're in a wheelchair, like look up
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: the rolette, see how they move, see how they do
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: their moves, and you try them right. Or if you
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: want to do a certain art form that maybe people
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: are saying you can't make it up, figure it out,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: be an original, And that's my whole emo, right, It's
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: like I'm not going to do it like anyone else.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: And that is cool.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I always say, like to people that say like, oh,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: you can't do this, or a doctor, watch me mm hmm,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: they do it differently, Well watch me.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Watch you exactly because you have the confidence in yourself
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: that you will figure it out because that's what we've
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: had to do our entire life, right, you figure it out,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: And it's just like, don't wait for somebody to solve
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: your challenges. Do it on your own. Not only not
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: only do I feel really strongly about that, but do
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: it on your own so you can gain the confidence
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: that you know that you'll figure it out and you'll
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: be able to say watch me. I mean, like, look
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: what you guys are doing. Like you've started the show
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: and you're creating opportunities to talk about things that people
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: in the past may have been like I don't know,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about that. It's like, no,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: we're talking about it. We are talking about it, and
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: we're going to bring in people with disabilities to talk
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: about it. And I just think that is so cool. Like,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: you guys are the perfect example of you know, someone
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: with a disability wants to be in the arts, or
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: wants to be a host, or wants to talk about
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: certain things. It's like, start your own show. Nobody's telling you,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: nobody's holding you back other than yourself.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, it's so true.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I mean it's I mean, this
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: is her baby, and I'm glad that she brought me along.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: And although my disability is not something that people can see,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: and I understand certain extent of the mental aspect and
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: the emotional aspect of it, or something that makes me
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: a little different or I do things differently.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: So yes, it's hard, and it's important to represent that too,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: because that's sometimes even harder you have an invisible disability.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: People are not quick to give grace or or pupatient
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: or compassion or empathy. And so I think, you know, Shanna,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: you bringing on La La is so smart and so
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: wonderful because there are so many people who also relate
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: to that. You know that, like, I have this thing
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: that makes my life harder, but nobody sees it. I mean,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: that was so huge and that's so real for so
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: many people.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's important to get the message out there,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I think, and you know that we are different, but
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: we do the same things that everybody does.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a little different.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: And absolutely the Internet is bringing people together. And I
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: know that when I see people who have my disease
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: or whatever, I'm like, oh I feel seen.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I feel like, oh my God, like look I'm not alone.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not alone, and I know in that way, and yeah.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah exactly.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: It's amazing.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like find your people, right, like find your
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: home team. This is such a small thing, but like
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I've recently found this product. I my hands get so
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: dry and rough and like they hurt in the winter,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: and I found this product and I like want to
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: shout it from the rooftops. I'm like, I want everyone's address,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: who you is a wheelchair? And I want to send
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: it to everyone because I feel like it's this thing
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: that I like, it's so specific to me, Like my
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: closest friends who are not in chairs, like wouldn't they'd
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: be like what, But like it's this amazing product that
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I put on my hands and my hands are like
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: a thousand times better, and so you know, it's like
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: finding your people and having these communities are so important.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: You got to get the brands a sponsor here.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I know, seriously, Iran, I need to message them.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: You have to share the.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Name because like my hand not that there's dry as yours,
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: but they get dry.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: And yes, yes, well okay, get this it's for cracked heels.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Oh but I put it on my hands and my
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: elbows and I'm telling you it like transformed my hands.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Really it really should have done it before and after
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: because I can't believe it. Mineral oil in it, Okay, anyway,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: you I mean you put it on like you put
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: it on at night and then like you wake up,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh my gosh, it looks like it looks
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: like my hand's just like magic magic magic magic anyway,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: kind of silly but kind of not right, so specific
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: And then you could help others. That's a little thing
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: like that. That's something that worked for you and it
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: could work for other people in the community, and that's amazing.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: That's amazing.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: What is it called.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: It's called Onyx professionals. I think cracked heels. Wait, I'm
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: gonna show you a picture right now because I took
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: a picture because I'm gonna post about it because it's
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: so good. This is it?
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's a heelstick Okay, sorry.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Onyx and it's professionals. I got it at CBS.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you Ali for coming on the show today
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: and I will see you Thursday at the Real Abilities
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Film Festival. And congratulations on getting your award.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Thank you both so much. I loved chatting with you both.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: And Shauna. I can't wait to see you on Thursday.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: And Lala, I hope I get to meet you in
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: person soon and please stay in touch. You guys are amazing.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, what is your Instagram handle for everyone to follow?
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's at Ali Stroker. Okay, very simple.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I think we follow you already.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: And I want to see the show on Netflix. So
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: when is that coming out?
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's coming out in June. But yeah, I
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: can look up the press or if you look up
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Office Romance.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Romance.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: All right, thank you so much. I'm excited.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Welcome. Thank you guys. I hope you have a great week.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: And that's the show for this week. Thank you so
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: much for tuning in. Be sure to check us out
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: at Shorna and lala dot com. Follow us on all
• 57:58
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• 58:02
  Speaker 2: on Instagram at the Real Shot of May.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: And you can check me out at Bella Underscore Laala
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  Speaker 3: one two five.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: We will see you next week.