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Recap Show | 2025 CrossFit Games · The Spin Podcast

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That's it, 2025 CrossFit Games champion Mr. Jason Hopper.
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Holy smokes, what AI? Think I was the first one to
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tell you what three years ago. I know now the ceiling.
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I can't, you know what I mean? Down has to win the match.
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Ceiling. Let's see.
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We got here. Slater.
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Hello. Hello.
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Marco Calderon the Goonie 1. Sir Vicki.
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Welcome. Standy.
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James about to put in an appeal. What happened to James?
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He looked pissed. They panned the camera on him.
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He just looks pissed. I don't know if he can put it in
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a pill. I didn't see anything weird
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happened, but it doesn't matter. Not enough people were between
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them. No it looks like this This live
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stream put up the the results. Ricky Garrard, Ricky Mack 2nd
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place one point ahead of James Sprague.
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So I don't know if he has to file an appeal within like 10
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minutes. If so it's it's quick.
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Dallin Pepper 4th Austin Hatfield 5th.
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Jay Crouch 6th Justin Madera 7th.
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Jeff Adler 8th, Roman Krenikov 9th and Tudor Magda rounds out
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your top 10. Ricky's about to be interviewed.
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Yes. Then anyway, crazy.
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That was I. I can't make sense of Jason
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being the the champ. Like I knew he had it in him,
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but I ranked him third. Like I'll be honest, I ranked
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him third, I just didn't like how big he is.
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Plays against him in my head always.
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I mean, it's it's I think I did. I say it on day one like we're
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talking about heat one, like the events lined up for Jason.
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I just wasn't convinced he could put it all together to actually
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win. Barry Mccockner, Tyler, Do you
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want? To confirm this, Barry, you're
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pulling somebody's leg. Ain't nobody perfect in here,
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buddy. Yeah.
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Not even close. Not even close.
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I do wonder what the odds are of somebody actually ever winning
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making all of them right. I went to try to calculate it
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one day. It's I mean, back when it was
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like before we had the game that we have now, it was like 10s of
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millions. That's percent or like whatever.
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One out of 10s of millions, dude.
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And then James looks pissed too, like he was looking up at the
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screen just like like mad you. I to me it looked like he was
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mad at himself like he was like I screwed this up pick here here
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and here. But I mean like James out of
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good games if anybody should be pisses Austin.
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What I would say about James is I think it validates last year,
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right, Everybody wanted to say it was the cardio games.
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It wasn't a complete test. You know, everybody was out of
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it. He just took advantage of people
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just not being, you know, either withdrawing or not not competing
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to their fullest capability. And he wasn't the fittest man on
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earth. If you come back and take third,
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almost second. And it was in the hunt for
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winning this year when everybody is at full capacity.
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It it last year was not a fluke in my opinion.
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No. So I, I mean, an event here, an
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event there easily could have put James back-to-back.
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Absolutely an execution, right? Like I don't think, I don't, I
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honestly don't think he's out 'cause the events.
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I think he's out because of execution errors, things he
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messed up on and. But yeah, a different event for
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sure. Dude how about Hopper like the
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event 9? I thought it cost him I.
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Yeah, I was a little worried going into or coming out of that
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event, but I was like when I saw the last event, I was like, that
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workout is written for Jason. I was like, it's so good for him
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at the end. He's longer than most other
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athletes except for Sprague, so it's like he's going to outlunge
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almost everybody. He he's really good at rope
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climbs. I mean, Jr. programs rope
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climbs. I know he's under rail, but like
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he does, he's still like he trained under Jr. for a long
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time, still works out with Jr. They he rope climbs all the time
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and then the thrusters like that's a lighter weight
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percentage for Jason than what every other athlete in the
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field. Right, Yeah, they've not updated
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the the leaderboard on on the. Game shot for everybody who's
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saying I won fourth the it's not up to date yet.
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We got to wait on game site to publish the final results.
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Yeah, it's not up there. But no, the top 10 read it to
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you one more time. You got it.
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Picture. I'll share it with you.
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Let me find the Whitman real quick.
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What happened to Roman after a great day one?
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I mean it was AI would say one for any endurance athlete.
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If you look at the endurance athletes, they were all up the
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top. Yeah, I think, I think day one
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was not representative of what you needed to do to to win.
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Definitely lots of back and forth, bouncing up and down
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throughout, which I've not calculated our our draft yet.
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But Tyler, you're sitting in a good spot, a very, very good
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spot. I was thinking about how do I
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how do I do the math to prove to John that I was correct about
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Tia. It might.
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It could do it. You took the lead today and
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we'll see. I still have to calculate the
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men. I've not done that yet.
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Yeah, I can take the average point from Jason and be like,
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OK, this is what it would be like if I pick the champ, right.
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And it so that is what would be equivalent I think and be like
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this is how much it I mean. What's crazy is Hopper ended up
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with 787 points, T ended up with what, 901 or something like
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that? Crazy.
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I we were texting about that on the road and spin was like tech
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check the points and I was like, is it fake?
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Like she's that far ahead? Yeah, Adam did say when we were
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setting that prop bet this morning, he goes, I think that
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spreads too small. Only 50% said win by 100 or
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more. So I mean, it's still, I think
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if I would have put like win by 100, people have been like, what
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are you talking about? But I guess that would have been
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fun to have people mess up, right.
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Let's go take a look at the the women's leaderboard, since we do
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have that. I sent both, did you get them?
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Yeah, I can't. I don't.
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I don't have all that stuff set up so.
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I wonder if I can do it I. Don't know.
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Here's the Here's the official women's leaderboard.
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Tia Claire Toomey, 902 points. Lucy Campbell, 720 Olivia
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Kurstadter rounds out the podium, followed by Daniel
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Brandon. Ariel Lowen.
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Not her best finish to finish. Wrap it up. 17th place.
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Maddie Sturt, Mirham Rookie of the Year, Mirham von Rohr.
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How about that? Mir Kim?
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Yeah. Amy Kringle, 8th Annika Greer,
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9th place. And Alexis Raptis despite a
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herniated back 10th place. I think I'm pretty.
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Let me go through my top 10 here.
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Start, start, start back at the top here at.
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The top. Yeah, at the top.
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Start back. Is this on your heat one app?
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On my Heat One app. Let's see.
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Tia check. Lucy Campbell.
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Nowhere close, not in the top 10.
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I talked to her yesterday dude, she's happy go lucky like cool
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as a cucumber. No worries at all.
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I I can't believe she got second place and she was like, I can't
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believe I'm at where I'm at right now.
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I I began to come under the impression that she is like just
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incredibly humble, like almost step self deprecatingly.
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Would I say 2016? Tia.
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Maybe less negative because she is very positive.
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She's just not hype on herself. And I'm like, dude, Lucy, what
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the hell? But maybe that's her way of
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being. Like, I could get hurt at any
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moment. And if I get too hype, you know,
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and I turn this into. A career, I mean, after the last
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two years, I can't, I have to imagine that she was very
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skeptical or cautious to believe in doing well, right?
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Like, you know, not doing muscle ups for however long, not doing
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these like deficit or parallel handstand push ups, not
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snatching. She still cleans with the one
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arm zombie clean. And there's a lot of things that
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she has not trained or has had to modify movements to still
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finish second, right? And I think that's where I
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struggled. Putting her up that high was
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like, is something just gonna just derail her?
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It does make you wonder. So it's like, OK, knowing her as
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an athlete, like, she has an incredible aerobic base.
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Years and years and years of training aerobic base.
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But like, now her training has shifted because she can't do so
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much volume that she risks hurting her wrist again, right?
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So she's changed it up. So it's like, what I really want
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to know is what the hell is Lucy doing?
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Like she's got a cheat code that no one else has, right?
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And like she'll surprise herself on a bench.
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She's like, I don't think I'm going to do very well at I'm
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like, you're still training that somehow.
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So what are you doing? And is it less volume?
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Is it is it a better way to train?
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That's those are the athletes. You're like, wait, what?
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What are you doing? I need the cheat code.
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Tell me what's up. It was like when Chris Inshall
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showed up in CrossFit. Everybody's like time out, need.
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That. Yeah, exactly.
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Yes. Third place.
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Olivia Kurstetter, I mean. No, I I I would not venture to
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guess that many people are put her above 7.
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I had her 6th, OK, sixth, yeah, whatever.
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But I, I mean, I would love to know how many people actually
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said podium, podium. She looked a female Jason
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Khalifa of back in the day, right?
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Like before he started to get good at at some aerobic
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capacity, right? Like she could win everything.
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That's like you need to require strength.
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She's good at gymnastics, she's good at handstand walking.
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It's literally can she figure out how to run and not be 29th?
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I spent some time I was talking to like Kiefer and Tackett and
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those guys just hanging around and you know, the proven
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athletes were, you know, warming up and doing their thing and
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like that camp has a good time together.
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Like they all thoroughly, I think, enjoy each other.
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Like it was good vibes the whole time.
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Olivia was dead center of that man.
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She was like she was just happy go lucky the entire time.
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She had 28th place in run row run and twenty 22nd and hammer
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down everything other than that top 11.
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Yeah, killer weekend. I mean, and this is the part
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where I'm like, OK, you know, you, you should train.
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She's trained all this. I'm sure she's ran like crazy
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right To get a 28th. Right.
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Yes. And so my thing is, like, all
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right, you spent all that time doing that, you can't recover as
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well 'cause you're doing that much training.
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Like how much more energy do you put into that as opposed to put
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in some of this other stuff? Yeah, I don't know.
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I you, you have to get, if she wants to win, she has to get
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better, right? Because like, I made a joke
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earlier today, I said if Laura Horwath had any regrets about
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not doing the game season this year.
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Yeah, the deficit handstand, push up workout, eliminate all
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of that. Like, and that would have like,
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even if she would have been, if Horvath would have been in it,
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she would have been out of it after that.
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Like Tia would have won. Like it would have been close
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maybe. And then Tia would have just
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been, she would have got 100 points on her and it would have
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been over. Olivia has to figure out some
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way to get top 20 right. Yeah, getting there to 20th that
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I think that would be my goal. Like adjust the training, adjust
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what you're doing until you can get around that level.
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And then just cap it and be like we're good, let's maintain and
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let's push you on everything else 'cause like it's just the,
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the running volume. The volume you have to do be
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good at running is is tremendous and it will take away from
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everything else. Yeah, next place.
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First of all, our favorite, favorite Mama of the show, this
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is Jules Brandon, $20. Thank you, Jules.
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Thank you for another good Games coverage.
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She cannot speak. She's a little bit hoarse.
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She's so happy, very, very proud of her daughter Danielle.
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Danielle, where did I have Danielle 4th nailed?
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It I had her fourth too. Nailed it.
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So out of nowhere. Rough start.
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Yeah, not the start you wanted. Ties her best 20/22.
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She was also 4th place. Yeah, 24th in the climbing
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couplet. Yep, 30th in the one backs back
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squat. 8. 3rd Everything else, I mean pretty darn solid.
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It does make you wonder this this games being an in gym
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games, the gym games. The gym games OK.
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Minus run, row, run. You know, Danielle, what was the
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event? She did bat poorly on the 30th
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and. The client, The climbing
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couplet. OK.
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In the back, in the back squat. So, OK, so that.
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Doesn't really apply to her then.
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Both both squatting. Yeah, both squats.
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And, and then you have the pegboard, which I, I just, I
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think we talked about it on Saturday morning.
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I, I, you can't foresee that happening, right?
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Like, I do think there were differences in the pegboard.
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I think, I think Jr. said he was overheard or talked to Bill
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Henniger about how they were the original pegboards from 2015.
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Same ones they didn't recut or anything, just.
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No, they just took those from 2015 and then wait.
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Are they actually? No, I think they stored them.
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They put them in storage and then brought them back here.
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No, seriously. You got to take that top layer
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off. You got to sand them.
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A little, yeah. And I think what he was saying
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was like between the amount of chalk that gets hit on there,
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the sweat, how the athlete, there's a lot of different
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factors that are going into it. I don't think he was ready to
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say that. The pegboards had differences,
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but but like 2 lanes, especially lane 2 had some like it's kind
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of like lane 8, right? Like there was something there
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that's like, wow, how does, how does Maria Quintero just destroy
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Tia Clairetumi? How does Lydia Fish destroy Tia
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Clairetumi? Tia Clairetumi.
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Yeah. I was talking to Lucy about it
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and she was like, you know, I said, was it like going up,
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going up a water slide? And she was like, yeah, she was
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like, it was just impossible. She sent me a video and her feet
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were like kicking like a toddler.
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Who was this? Lucy Campbell and I was like,
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was it every lane? And she was like, I talked to
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everybody, she said. Everybody said the same thing.
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She was like the athletes who just who did better.
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She was like, they just were better at that.
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Like figured it out instead of like, I think probably the
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seasoned athletes were like, this is how I do this.
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And so they kept trying to do it where the rookie athletes were
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like, OK, that's not working. Let me try something else.
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I mean, very well could be Jules.
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I think the pegboard from Rogue still lives in her head.
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I don't think she did well in the last pegboard workout.
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We will call the the results right now are in, we will say
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unofficial unless there's there's any changes, there's all
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that you know, we we are in that time zone.
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These are the heat one official results, right?
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Right heat one official CrossFit Games unofficial, so see how I
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did. Overall, 127th in No, 88th in
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top 10. Wow, that's actually pretty good
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for you. I don't think you did well.
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If it holds Beck Leach you have won $1000 gift card to delete
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this. And the winner got On the
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women's side, Beck Leach got Tia right and Annika Greer right.
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On the men's side, none right. None, right?
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Yeah. So the winner that gets them
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all, I think the high I vest got 7 perfect picks.
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That's crazy. Mark Telford got 8 and I don't
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know that anyone else got 8 and I don't know you must have just
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shit the bed on your other picks.
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Probably picked Brooke Wells like I did.
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Yeah, that didn't work out too well.
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Yeah, we'll get to her. Ariel Lowen down there in fifth.
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She had it, let it slip. Madden, Maddie Sturt, 6th Mirham
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von Rohr. Hey, it was impressive.
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Dude, great games for Miriam. She did not have a cramp, which
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was good to see. Yeah.
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Amy Kringle that has that, has that reel that I put together
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has 4 million views now of Pedro calling it a cramp when Mirham
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went down. So Annika Greer, I mean, she is.
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Basically like Olivia Kerstetter.
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Yeah. With just not as many good
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finishes. But yeah, they they both have to
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figure out how to run. I got Amy Kringle right I Oniko
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is not in my top 10. No, no.
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Alexis Raptors 10th Lucy Mcgonigal So Lucy Mcgonigal,
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Maddie Sturt, Olivia Kurstutter, Tia Claire To me, four of the
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top 11 women proven athletes. Yeah, that's pretty wild.
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Yeah, I'm telling you, they're, I told you I was hype on them
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going into the games. They're doing something
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different down there in Tennessee, Nashville.
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Yeah, and two of them super, super young.
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Yeah. I mean, Maddie's not old by any
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stretch. What is she, 20?
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Yeah, 28, I mean. Dude, Maddie's still so young.
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That's crazy. She's been here forever.
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I mean, Jay, I think Jay's only like 2425.
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She's nuts. Do you think Alexis a month ago
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when when her back exploded, she take a 10th, 10th place?
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No. I bet she would like say like
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she's probably going to be 18th or lower.
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Yeah, I mean, she's probably got to be very happy with that.
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I feel like Tanner, like whatever that post was, that
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story was almost like damage control.
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So I will say. Not do well.
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Her her disk is like ruptured dude.
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Like leak in jail ruptured and she, he was like dude, there was
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like 4 times throughout training like she was on the floor crying
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like couldn't walk. He was like couldn't move,
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couldn't do anything. How she did this is insane.
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And then two, I don't really understand why she did it.
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Like that's something I really want to know.
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Like you're an athlete at the top of the games level.
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Like people thought you were going to have a run at the
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podium this year and I only ranked you lower because I found
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out a little ahead of time that you were hurt and I don't know
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why you would risk your future career for this year.
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Yeah, no, I mean, it's, I mean, I think we gave Emma Lawson
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maybe some crap for, you know, I, I don't know how what extent
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her herniated disc was or whatever.
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You know, I think it was herniated disc, but she sat out
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the open. I mean, I don't think anybody
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would have blamed her for sitting this one out saying,
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hey, herniated my disc, I'm out. Hopefully this weekend didn't
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make it worse. That's my worry.
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And there was a lot of hinging, a lot of heavy stuff.
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I She held, she held up so well. I mean, to do running Isabel, I
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know she had a weight belt on for 105 LB snatches, but that
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would make me nervous because you're just moving fast.
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And she did well, it wasn't like she was doing singles.
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I mean, she was was doing that. And so, you know, I can't
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imagine she does world fitness Project Mesa.
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I I mean I doubt she would do rogue at this point.
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She probably needs a six month just reset given where she is.
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And the question is, does she join Brute, the back healer Matt
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Torres or? Brute the back healer.
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Yeah, to do that, I don't know, Lucy McDonald, Abigail Dome, it
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up and down Week looked like she was going to be a top ten and
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then just couldn't do it. Yeah, I will say John's right,
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man. He's like, people want Abby to
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be better than she is, and I am guilty of that every single time
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I put her in second, which is aggressive even by my standards.
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I had her 9th. I had her 9th.
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The whole time, like, Lydia beat her in so many workouts.
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And when you look at Dalmut, you're like, you're a Games
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athlete. And not to say that Lydia
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doesn't look like a Games athlete, but like, Abby's cut
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out of stone. Yeah.
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And I'm like, why is why is Lydia beating you and stuff?
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I think Abby goes to the house and reassesses who our coaches
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are. I mean, Gold Line seems to be
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good, but yeah, I mean it to see the progression that Olivia has
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made, to see the progression that Lucy Mcgonigal has made, to
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see the progression that Maddie Sturt has made.
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Like Maddie Sturt was like, I'll go to the games, I'll finish
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20th and now she's what, 5th? Yeah.
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Or 6th and that's oh geez TG $3.99 Would Z score change this
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games? I don't know yet.
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Tia still wins. Yeah, Tia still wins.
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It's probably worse. She probably wins by more.
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Yeah, last night I sent you the screenshot, right?
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Oh, I should have. I thought about posting it, but
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I didn't want to jinx my boy. Jason by P score was in fourth
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place and Ricky was in first. Generally, everything starts to
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regress towards the mean, right? And so I'm like, Jason's going
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to start pulling down. His lead shrunk for sure.
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And so I was like, oh shit, like, am I right?
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Like Nostradamus over here? I was like, I don't want to be
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right. I don't want to be right.
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So I got really, I got really nervous.
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Jay was in 2nd. And so I was like, Oh my God,
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like, is this going to happen? I need to run the numbers for
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today. I mean, like they just came out.
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I've been home all of like an hour and a half, so I don't
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know. Yeah, it'll be the men's.
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The men's will definitely be interesting.
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The women's side, I don't think you'll see much of a difference.
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Lydia Fish, 14th. Claudia Glock, 14th.
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Grace Walton, So another proven athlete. 15th, I mean.
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I I also expected more out of grace.
27:09
That was just me being stupid. I was disappointed.
27:15
I thought she, I thought the double point event last night
27:18
was one of hers to take and she just kind of was in the middle
27:21
of the pack, which is where she ended up, which that was.
27:25
I wanted to see something from her on those I think would have
27:28
been what you wanted to see. She does that.
27:31
She's top ten, close to it. Yeah, I think hers is like a lot
27:36
of execution stuff. Hers is just like, dude, she's
27:38
only been doing this like not very long, couple years maybe.
27:43
And yeah, she's just got, she's got to have more time.
27:47
Yeah, she's got the, her ceiling is high.
27:52
She's definitely one of those athletes and I'm just premature
27:55
on when she hits that so. Brooke Wells, I just John was
28:01
right this morning on the pre show on Savan.
28:06
I just think there's a little bit of edge taken off of
28:09
retiring. And if you're mentally not
28:14
checked out, but if you're just not mentally, if you're 95%
28:17
mentally there against this type of field, you're not going to
28:21
you're going to be where you are, right?
28:22
You're going to be 16th. You're in the middle of the
28:24
pack. You've got to be next level to
28:27
take advantage of everything. And I think really these
28:30
workouts suited her in a lot of cases, and we just didn't see
28:33
her. I mean shit I played her on the
28:35
clean event, the clean pegboard. I genuinely thought that dude
28:42
she trained under Jr. she has to be good at pegboards and just
28:46
wasn't a thing. But she wasn't truly under Jr.
28:49
like straight under JRS programming for a very long time
28:53
like Jr. Was helping a little bit with
28:55
under the Mark, the first HWPO. Stairs white labeled.
29:01
Yeah, I'm not sure this after she kind of did a few weeks with
29:06
them, but for water palooza and then dipped, dipped like I don't
29:10
think he was as involved. I.
29:14
I think if she was really in it and this is where she ended up,
29:17
it speaks a lot to having a coach there with you and maybe
29:26
having like some consistent training partners.
29:29
Oh, this is a good take Blade. JY gets mad credit 'cause he had
29:34
Lucy at the top of the mountain months ago.
29:36
We murdered him for that. We did, big time.
29:41
Yeah, good call back Blade. Thanks for shoving that in my
29:44
face cause John will 100% watch this and throw it back in my
29:49
face later. Where did that did he?
29:51
Didn't he move Lucy down the mountain though?
29:53
Like the last one? Yeah, yeah.
29:56
So he doesn't get all the credit blade, but he he did have it
29:59
early. On with with Brooke.
30:04
I was just, you know, watching her body language at the games
30:08
and I was like, your heart is not here.
30:11
You are checked out. It just didn't see like she was
30:13
like, man, you know, she's just, it was like a ghost walking
30:18
around. My big question is she's
30:22
obviously going to do World fitness project the next this,
30:25
the next one in the finals. Will she just full switch?
30:32
Does she go 26 and do world fitness project or is she done
30:35
done? I think she goes World Fitness
30:37
project 2026. That's that's bad idea, Yeah.
30:43
If you want to have a lasting like legacy and how people think
30:47
about you, you don't do that. Nope.
30:51
FISA Goffy 17th You guys were hype on fee.
30:56
I put her 10th. I didn't have her in the top
30:59
ten. I I thought she was going to be
31:00
here. I when I watched your guys's
31:04
Sivan when with John's rankings of Phi and Bryson was all over
31:09
Phi and you are all over Phi, everybody's like Phi's top ten.
31:13
I was like, no, yeah, I don't see it.
31:18
She's still small at the end of the day, like she's still small.
31:23
I didn't see how she did. How did she do in the snatch run
31:26
of it? Not that, not that good.
31:29
Not that good. I think I might have played her.
31:34
I see back how you figure out where I'm at, where I am here
31:38
running Isabel Fee 22nd. Killer pick Tyler, good job.
31:44
Again, I mean, three O 3 is 13th, 314 is 22nd.
31:54
Yeah, we'll get in the program. I think maybe a little bit
31:57
later. I have some opinions.
31:59
Lexi Neely, 18th, probably where I expected her.
32:03
Hayley Adams 19th Not a good showing for Hayley Adams.
32:07
Even by the the people who were not hype on her, like I don't
32:13
think anybody, not very many people put her under 15th if you
32:16
ask for people to rank all the way down.
32:18
See, I had her back in fifth like she did well last year.
32:20
Yeah, right. Like she's had year after year
32:23
after year, she's like, come back strong.
32:26
Like she sneaks in there. She shows some grit.
32:30
This one just seemed like she was missing a year the entire
32:32
time. All right, first of all, Black
32:36
Mamba, we got to we got to we got to fix your stuff here.
32:39
He says I think fee is fine AF. Then he says DB is trash.
32:43
We're not going to handle that because misses Brandon is in the
32:47
comments. Second of all, you don't know
32:50
how to use a greater than or less than sign.
32:53
So instead of DBE dumb energy, Black Mamba's dumb ass energy.
33:01
Thank you. Sir, go go back to pre algebra.
33:05
We'll get that straightened away.
33:08
So whoops, yeah, Haley Adams definitely not a little
33:14
disappointed. I had somebody ask.
33:17
We we we talk about the dudes, right?
33:19
We talk about Maderos, we talk about others when they start,
33:23
when they get their little love life going, does that impact
33:26
them? What about the women's side when
33:29
they find themselves a man? Does that have an impact?
33:34
Found me a man I mean. I mean, we said the same about
33:41
Medeiros. The minute he starts dating
33:43
Ellie, he's we, we haven't seen the same Medeiros.
33:47
Now he was back this year, definitely not back on the
33:49
podium, but. Hey dude, Jason found him a
33:53
woman and he's doing just fine. OK, He's he's had Graceann for
33:59
like 32 years, so I think it's fine.
34:02
Yeah, I think I it could have gone both ways for me with Haley
34:08
going into this event or into the games.
34:11
I thought if she's really happy, that might help her.
34:14
Like she I don't know that she's ever been super happy with
34:17
herself going into the games. Turns out you need to have a
34:21
little discontent with yourself to do well at the games.
34:24
I mean, hell, Jason even said don't pick me.
34:26
Like I like people doubting me. And it's like, you know, WPTH,
34:32
dude. I tend to feed from that side
34:35
more than I do on the happy side.
34:37
But I mean, some people like they just go off joy.
34:42
That's true. Jennifer Muir 20th Not a bad
34:45
showing. Sydney Michalacion 21st
34:48
Christina living Atakis, living Atakis.
34:52
I mean, she was just she was crushing that third heat or the
34:57
first heat the whole time doesn't doesn't get you between
35:00
the top 20, but she did well in that heat.
35:03
Hattie Kenya 23rd I was hoping for a little bit more from
35:06
Hattie. Carolyn Prevo, Suyun Choi, Syria
35:12
Maha. I think we had talked in our in
35:16
our chat about like she trains a lot.
35:19
We saw Hiller's video training a lot.
35:22
Does she make it through the weekend?
35:24
And the answer was no, she just made it.
35:28
She progressively got lower and lower and lower throughout the
35:31
weekend. Yeah, she is another athlete.
35:33
Great first day. Yeah, Mariana Mesa 27th, Maria
35:37
Quintero, 28th, Emily Deroy 29th and Luisa Marques.
35:44
Something has like she has to have some type of injury.
35:47
I cannot imagine. She was moving slow on some
35:50
stuff. Like, I just wonder if there was
35:51
like something there, like, she's not Kale Lehman.
35:57
Right. No, Yeah.
35:58
And even if you are from Brazil, like there's still a good
36:01
community of competitors down there.
36:03
I mean, it was just never. There's nothing that she put
36:07
together and you would expect something to be in her
36:09
wheelhouse where she takes 20th. Like for Maria Quintero to take
36:14
a couple decent spots, 220 points and you end up with 57.
36:20
I maybe I'm wrong, but I just have a feeling that there was
36:23
something something not right there you.
36:26
Got a little skinny on Emily Deroy.
36:29
I hear she's just is not diligent at training.
36:33
Like she's hit or miss because like I've been hype on her for a
36:36
while. Like she's got a great build.
36:39
She looks like an athlete. And so I was like, yeah, dude,
36:42
this, this chick's going for it. And then they're like, no, dude,
36:45
like she's just not, she's not a trainer.
36:48
OK, just does enough. Maybe she's a good team athlete.
36:52
Some people works out. Yeah, One thing I wanted to
36:55
bring up, Daniel Brandon, the last time she took fourth, she
36:59
changed coaches a month before the games, so.
37:03
Don't change a winning strategy, man.
37:05
The secret sauce? Next year, who knows where
37:07
she'll be. Now she needs to change coaches
37:09
twice right before the games I'll make.
37:12
Her second. I'll make her second for sure.
37:15
It's worth a shot. I don't know if it's a
37:18
coincidence or if there's something to it.
37:20
But you may not just. You just may not need a coach.
37:24
Liberate yourself. You could do that.
37:27
Here we go. The one men's leaderboard has
37:29
been updated, Mr. Hopper. We knew that first place.
37:33
Ricky Gerrard, 773 points, one point above Mr. James Sprague.
37:41
Dallin Pepper, 4th place. Austin Hatfield just couldn't
37:47
climb that rope. Dude he's so bad at pulling.
37:53
Which is crazy because how did he beat Colton in that legless
37:57
rope climbing during mayhem? No idea like I.
38:04
I I just can't, I can't make sense of it.
38:06
Dude, what what's going on? I know he's working on it.
38:11
And then like that the other thing is like, look at him how
38:14
you can you not pull? You have like marble for
38:18
freaking lats. Dude, what are you doing?
38:21
Maybe some skill work. Ricky.
38:24
Yeah, Ricky would have needed five spots.
38:28
I mean, that's got to be the climbing couplet.
38:32
Has to be. I mean, back squat 45 is not
38:35
where you need it. No, there it is, 10 lbs.
38:41
Yeah, the the spread on that one is crazy that that event.
38:48
That's it. I mean, you could, you could
38:50
point to the pegboard. 14th 7:20 I mean, he would have had to be
39:02
way up here in 9th place. I don't think I don't think that
39:06
changes the spot. But you go to the water at Mac
39:10
back run Rep Mac's back squat and he was look at it down here.
39:18
23rd high that that was it. 1010 lbs.
39:25
Would have got him. 10 lbs would have gotten him there.
39:29
I mean, it's not like he didn't try it.
39:32
Did he fail one? Did he?
39:34
Yeah, he I'm pretty sure he failed one.
39:36
What do you fail at? I can't remember but I remember
39:39
him failing. If he failed 465 that's one
39:43
thing. If he went for like 4 massive
39:47
jump right and shame on him, it would been a, you know, woulda
39:52
coulda shoulda. If any of you kids out there
39:57
watching, start back squatting if you want to go to the games
40:00
cuz it'll keep you out. That that's where I don't know
40:05
how long it would take, but like having the like Olympic style
40:16
where the weights go up only could be interesting.
40:20
Almost, almost like take the, the high jump where it's like,
40:24
anybody wanna jump, you know, 5 feet high and everybody's like,
40:27
no. And then they go to five feet.
40:29
2. And then one person the, the
40:31
work weakest does it and then everybody else skips it.
40:34
But you only get 3 attempts and the bar never goes down, right.
40:37
And so like same thing if you just had a bar and you said, all
40:39
right, we're gonna do back squat, get in line.
40:43
We're starting at 400. If you do, you wanna do you
40:45
wanna attempt 400? And most people say no 410, no
40:49
420, no. And you can hop in whatever you
40:53
want and you get as many lifts as I mean, you lift 20 times if
40:56
you wanted to, but you pick where you jump in 'cause then
41:00
you'd have some like gamesmanship, right?
41:02
Like they do with the Olympic weightlifting.
41:03
Yeah, playing the games of like there's the weight changes and
41:07
then yeah, they're called. There's a couple tricks to do in
41:11
the back end stuff that I that I've I remember Travis Mash
41:15
talking about. It's like a whole you can really
41:16
fuck with people. Yeah, I'll definitely with the
41:18
Olympic weightlifting, I think if you did it like the like the
41:21
the high jump, it's literally you're in order, sure.
41:26
And you're just like if you're up, you can pick it or not and
41:28
you just go back to the back of the line and you're up for the
41:30
next the next height. Same thing with this.
41:33
That way, I think it would keep it moving a little bit like you
41:37
get, you know, 30 seconds to lift, they rack it.
41:40
Do you want it? No.
41:41
OK. And then you just keep going
41:42
through. I think you'd see that kind of
41:47
progression through it, which would be would be interesting.
41:52
Let's see, where are we up? We got to reset.
41:57
Where are we at? Resort.
42:02
Resort Jay Crouch, Justin Madero, 7th Jeff Adler.
42:10
It's a little disappointing. That one I was just like, are
42:16
you here? Yeah, it it something seemed
42:20
off. It was just crazy because of
42:22
like how magnetic he was when he won.
42:25
Like that just was not here. I could not make sense of that.
42:31
Yeah. I wonder if John has a take on
42:32
this where it's like it, it was all Jim stuff, dude.
42:35
Like there was. Nothing.
42:36
That's why, that's why I picked him first, because there was
42:38
nothing that was out of the ordinary.
42:41
There was nothing new. The only thing you could say
42:43
that was new was an axle bar deadlift.
42:47
Right. And that's not even different,
42:51
really. But like, he wasn't fast on
42:55
running Isabel. Like there was just a whole lot
42:56
of things. He was just.
42:58
Man, yeah. You know, and I don't know, I
43:03
don't know. He, I mean, he bombed the last
43:07
event World Fitness Project. Now he takes 8th in this.
43:11
Can't hang, no more washed. Roman Kranikov is washed.
43:15
He's 9th place, kind of just. There he just never, he never
43:20
had the he didn't have no boost, right?
43:24
It was like he was in a good position.
43:26
You're like, OK, Roman, turn it on right or during the run right
43:31
there and then just let Jeff zoom by him and I'm like, OK,
43:35
hit the, hit the throttle. Yeah, I mean, Jeff was Jeff took
43:38
a 1020 meter lead on him in five seconds.
43:42
It was Yeah, nuts. Tudor Magda, pretty good
43:46
performance for him. 10th place. Harry Lightfoot.
43:50
Dudes dark horse pick. I think like we didn't rank down
43:54
to 11, but I don't think anybody was ranking Harry that high.
43:58
No, he is the top guy from England.
44:02
I was really hoping he would get top 10.
44:05
Colton Merton's 12th, his best finish at the Games.
44:08
Yeah, this. It's the same thing for oh, like
44:14
Fee, right, Because we're hype on Fee and she didn't get where
44:19
we thought. It almost seems like a bad
44:22
thing. And same thing with Colton, like
44:25
we all everybody was just wanting to put him, you know,
44:27
top five or something, top 10 for sure.
44:30
This is a great showing for Colton and he had a hard
44:34
programmed weekend. This was not his programming.
44:39
Well, I think, I think there's a, a dichotomy because what we,
44:42
what we knew early on was like, oh, Colton, yeah, this is going
44:46
to, this is lining up. And then it was like, oh, we
44:49
like we announced the 6th work, Nate 6th announced workout.
44:53
Uh oh. The 7th and 8th.
44:54
Uh oh. The 9th.
44:57
Uh oh. Like, you know, and and as we
45:00
start to see it play out like the running Isabel, it was John
45:06
was right. It was a truly a running
45:07
workout. You couldn't make it unless you
45:09
failed something on the snatch. It literally came down to how
45:14
fast are you willing to run? Yeah.
45:17
And hold on. Right.
45:18
Like. Oh, dude, some of the guys, like
45:20
you could tell going into the barbell, they were like, I don't
45:23
want to pick this up. Like I'm going so fast right
45:25
now. Yeah.
45:27
And Austin in particular. Austin, you could tell you was
45:31
like, dude, what are we doing? Yeah, like you saw Newman fail,
45:37
you saw Hopper fail. Like there Grace Walton
45:43
struggled in the last round there.
45:44
There are plenty of athletes who that was like the perfect
45:47
weight. They got there and it was just
45:48
like these last six are not happening.
45:51
Hopper's double fail. Yeah, he did that.
45:54
I was like, you just lost a games, you idiot.
45:56
What are you doing? Like just one second.
45:59
I I did too, and I mean like honestly that's the only reason
46:02
the race was so close 'cause if he had finished and that last
46:06
one like this wouldn't there would be no story, tale ending.
46:10
It was just that event. I was a little surprised he
46:13
didn't take more of a narrow grip on this after he failed it
46:17
and almost like a a muscle snatch.
46:19
Yeah, right. Like just instead of being so
46:22
far wide, I thought maybe just do a little bit narrower grip,
46:25
get it over, like get it done. It'll take longer.
46:28
You'll get it right, you'll get it done.
46:30
And yeah, no, he popped. He's he got popped out the back.
46:34
There there's two things you can do in that moment and I'm not a
46:37
games winning athlete nor do I have that mentality, I think.
46:41
But in those moments, like, you know, it's a fast event and you
46:43
know you got to move fast, but in the last Rep always you got
46:47
to be like, if you're on the if you're on the bitter edge, it is
46:50
better to take one more second than to fail to fucking Rep
46:54
Jason. And so you just you pause for a
46:57
second, hit it and then move on. Don't don't rush.
47:01
But I appreciate that Jason was like, no, dude, balls out.
47:06
They let we got to go. Yep, Joe Bravo, appreciate you
47:13
guys Backstreets back. Oh.
47:15
Are we backstreet? No, it's Jason, his little. 90s
47:18
Taylor. Tips.
47:20
Chris Ibarra, You probably didn't see him the entire week
47:23
until he won heat 2 of the final event, takes 13th.
47:26
Just kind of where we thought he would be.
47:28
Cali and Sousa what pretty well. Yeah, like didn't wasn't
47:34
calling. That he kind of slipped back and
47:36
then did pretty well. Extra sloppy dollar 99.
47:41
Jason is greater than Tyler. Did I use it right?
47:44
You'll never know. Oh, look at that.
47:47
I won't. Callum Clements 16th Colin
47:54
Bosshard Is Colin Collins the top rookie?
48:00
Is he? Yeah.
48:05
No. Tudor's been to the games, yeah.
48:07
Colin Bosshard, 17th Rookie of the Year for the men's side.
48:12
That's good. Oh, if I had written the prop
48:14
bet on Callum Clements too, Is it?
48:16
Is he going to have a a sophomore slump or success?
48:22
Success. I bought.
48:25
Is it like Biro's second year? Yeah, it's Harry Lightfoot's
48:28
second year. Tudor's second year.
48:35
Jack Rosima Moritz came back. He benefited from the
48:39
programming the last half of the of the week.
48:43
Nick Matthew, 20th, Yonikoski. I don't know how many times I
48:49
said this weekend, man, if it was three years ago, he would
48:51
win this. He's just daddy.
48:56
He he, there's this look that like Ben Smith and those guys
49:00
get when you get like on in your competitive years because he's
49:04
still how old is he? He's up there 3030.
49:09
He's not, he's still not that old, but he's been doing this a
49:11
long time. And you start to get this look
49:13
where you're just like, you look rundown.
49:16
And I was like, I, I texted you guys in the group during the
49:20
last event and I was like, soak it in Yona because I think this
49:23
is Yona's last ride. Well.
49:24
We missed Ty. How do we miss Ty Jenkins?
49:27
We did miss Ty. We were.
49:28
Ty is 15th. It is his rookie year.
49:33
How do I miss straight from Cali into Calum?
49:37
Ty Jenkins 15th. I shouldn't have overlooked him,
49:40
he is the rookie of the year. Congratulations Ty.
49:45
And he beat Bill Leahy handily with ease.
49:51
Ty looked good but again you just don't see him.
49:57
Dude I lost that prop who's way over 25 and.
50:01
There's a lot. Not even close.
50:06
Enrico Zanotti, the Greek or Italian God. 22nd.
50:10
That dude's overhead position is amazing.
50:14
Jorge Fernandez. Bronislaw Lenkowitz.
50:18
Pretty good for Braun. Yeah, I wonder if he's coming
50:21
over to Columbus for the The Masters games in a couple weeks.
50:27
Yeah, Isaac Newman. Nice.
50:30
Not bad. Bill Leahy.
50:32
Disappointing. Disappointing.
50:35
It isn't, though, like somebody earlier, I think I, I don't know
50:39
who was saying this, that that they love the Hiller and Bill
50:44
thing. And I'm like, yeah, but you have
50:46
to realize it's a thing like I know I think that Bill's
50:53
potential is very high. He's definitely like a top ten
50:56
games athlete. He has he's I think he has the
50:58
work work ethic. He has the build for it, but
51:03
he's just not there yet. Like he has too many holes.
51:05
He falls all the time where you think you should do well.
51:08
So ice. Newton Chase called Isaac Isaac
51:16
Newman Isaac Newton repeatedly. Nice.
51:19
Good job, Chase. Yeah, that's good.
51:22
Toby Buckland, 27th. Peter Ellis, he was on the
51:25
struggle bus there at the end. Henrique Moreira and Thiago
51:28
loses last minute backfill for more teases that I got out of
51:32
the Far East throwdown. And there's your men.
51:37
Anybody you're super disappointed with?
51:42
Scroll back up. Let's see, here we go.
51:50
I would say it would be top ten if like or around the 10.
51:58
Super disappointed. I mean, I'm.
52:00
Not disappointed in Jeff, I'm just surprised.
52:04
I would say he's surprised. I would say Jeff.
52:08
I think a lot of people probably had him to put in the the.
52:12
I mean the average placement on the heat 1 was 2.7.
52:16
Oh yeah. For Adler.
52:18
High strength athlete I think. Definitely he was.
52:21
He was. Pepper was 3.2.
52:22
Hopper was five point O, which is crazy.
52:28
I would say Adler, which is wild to say.
52:31
Somebody the most disappointing 8th.
52:35
Disappointment. The word that word use.
52:40
But there's nobody else here that there's nobody else here
52:42
that you'd be like, man. Darn, Yeah.
52:45
I really thought they were going to do well and they just.
52:47
Did terrible, I thought. I thought Adler would do better.
52:51
I I would be lying if I didn't say that I was a little joyous.
52:57
Wow. OK, what about the females?
53:00
Women. Disappointment we're
53:02
disappointed in you, grace grace, I'm a little not
53:10
disappointed, but I'm I'm just bummed I.
53:12
Thought I'd say healing better. Hayley Adams, yes.
53:15
I think for most fans they would be like, yeah, I'm disappointed.
53:18
I would say Hayley Adams the most.
53:20
Brooke Wells, second. It would if if Lucy Campbell
53:28
hadn't gotten she got second right.
53:32
I'm I'm so overjoyed for her if she had, if she didn't exist in
53:38
this equation. Lydia Fish gets that prize for
53:40
me. Like dude, you made it in
53:44
because you did a workout at midnight and now you're 13th
53:48
fittest woman on earth. Yeah.
53:52
Like that? That's the story of hard work.
53:57
And it was awesome to see like the fish heads throughout the
54:00
entire weekend. Amazing.
54:02
That, that was great. I mean, it was, it was fun to
54:05
watch her and her, her crew, yes, like cheer for her.
54:11
I don't think there was another section like that, right?
54:16
Like it was, it was good to see. Another like Amy Kringle, I
54:22
think people doubt her all the time.
54:25
And her getting 8th, I'm like you're you're putting in the
54:28
work. You're getting better at the
54:29
things that people think you suck at.
54:31
She's really improved. Madeline Sturt, same thing.
54:35
Like you've been in the game a long time and now you're now
54:38
you're talking. She was in contention.
54:40
They covered her a lot during the last.
54:42
Event. I mean, she was in the, she was
54:45
in the running for the. The third spot and then I'm
54:49
like, Olivia getting third, being so young and doing this
54:53
for so long, that's just got to feel really, really cool.
54:56
Yeah, very much. I mean, if Tia truly does walk
55:00
away, I think she does at this point.
55:08
I think it's Olivia's next year. It's just as much as she gets
55:17
that. Running up to 20th, it's hers.
55:20
Yeah. I mean, it kind of is.
55:25
Yeah. I mean she has the most runway
55:30
so. Yeah, I mean, like most of the
55:32
athletes are like kind of where they're going to be at the
55:35
barring the younger athletes. But just looking here in like
55:37
the top 10, Alexis has got some room to grow.
55:41
But you know, the back issues. Annika, she's she's probably got
55:46
some room to grow, but it's going to be inches in comparison
55:48
to like how Olivia can change. I mean, like Olivia, just she's
55:52
still not a grown woman yet, you know what I mean?
55:55
And Danielle, she's 19. Yeah.
56:00
Plus or minus. Danielle's is going to be
56:03
execution. And if she can get a tad bit
56:05
stronger, Ariel Lowen is where Ariel Lowen is going to be.
56:09
Hers is programming dependent. Madeline Sturt, she could get
56:13
better, but probably, like, this is a great year for her.
56:17
Me or him probably can get a lot better.
56:21
But she, I think, I think she's going to have, I mean, she's
56:24
only 23. I think she's the female Colton,
56:28
though, right? Like, I think there's a lot of
56:29
odds stacked against her when it comes to that.
56:34
But with that said, she did well in the run.
56:37
She did better than Colton in the run.
56:41
Her pacing was pretty bad. Yeah.
56:44
Like she shot out of the cannon on on the thruster on the last
56:48
workout, the running and the the running.
56:51
Isabel, she's shot out of the can.
56:52
She was leading that the first run.
56:57
So she has some I think work to do.
56:58
I think I don't I have a hard time seeing her on the podium.
57:02
But good she's she's young. Future games winner will be Lucy
57:10
Mcgonigal. She will win the games.
57:14
She can already race with the best of them.
57:17
She's not even as strong as she's going to get.
57:21
She's, yeah, I mean, I, I think she's got to close up some of
57:25
those weaknesses. Yeah.
57:29
I would say she doesn't really have too many home runs.
57:32
No, not yet. Comparatively, I mean, she was
57:35
fat good and throttle up. OK, but I mean, she's fairly
57:39
strong in Olympic lifting, but not at the backs.
57:44
What? But 18 years old, Yeah.
57:48
I mean, she she has the possibility for sure.
57:51
Just get stronger. It's crazy that Lucy Mcgonigal
57:59
and Lydia Fisher that close. Like I know what John would say.
58:02
Can't wait till Tia gets out so we can see a fight on the
58:05
women's side. I will be bummed when Tia's like
58:10
it is a little boring, like when she when she won and like her
58:16
whole retirement speech she gave.
58:18
It felt to me it felt flat. Did it feel flat to you?
58:22
Yeah, you do it 8 times. It's kind of like expected.
58:27
Yeah, right. It's not that joyous a moment.
58:29
It's like, I think it's a lot of relief.
58:31
Like I, I get a. Sense Brooke gets a video and
58:34
Tia doesn't get a video. What the Hell's up with that?
58:40
Dave and Brooker better friends. I don't know, I think I think it
58:47
was relief on Tia's part, right? Instead of excitement, it was
58:51
relief. Like thank God I could pull this
58:53
off. I I went six months without
58:57
touching a barbell. I went another three months with
58:59
barely doing anything strength based.
59:02
I finished high rocks. I spend 8 weeks training for the
59:05
games and I can win again, right?
59:09
But like, it was exciting to watch Lucy take the leader's
59:14
jersey from her. Brooke is retiring.
59:15
T is retiring. She announced it.
59:21
Don't give me that shit. She's done, dude.
59:24
She's done. That was a retirement.
59:25
That's what Sean Woodland said, and here we are.
59:27
No, she's. Done, like you said, relief.
59:30
Relief. It no, it was relief that she
59:32
had won, not relief that she's done.
59:35
Dude, it's becoming like if you're her I would be
59:39
disappointed. She.
59:40
Did when? Not really.
59:45
She didn't announce. No, she didn't.
59:48
Not what I heard. Get out of here.
59:50
She's done, dude. Now, I would say, I would say
59:53
the look of Shane's eyes when she was talking was more of an
59:58
indication that she was done. That just dude, that dude just
1:00:00
be crying. That dude cries all the time.
1:00:04
Maybe, maybe that's the case. I but I, I took more of that her
1:00:08
eyes than or his eyes than what she said, because she didn't
1:00:13
have, she didn't, she didn't say anything.
1:00:15
She said it's hard to retire. It's hard to retire.
1:00:19
That's right. Wouldn't be talking about it if
1:00:23
you weren't going to do it. She she wouldn't have told Sean
1:00:27
Woodland that she was retiring, but her team did.
1:00:32
They had a whole documentary crew hanging around.
1:00:35
So Andrew Farmer, no, Tia will say 8 is great, 9 is mine.
1:00:42
I mean, she could win again next year.
1:00:48
If you want to do the exact same thing, do high rocks for another
1:00:52
eight months. What do we got to shoot into
1:00:55
some of these at we we got to shoot into Olivia Karstetter to
1:00:58
get her to compete with Tia like horse steroids.
1:01:06
No, I think it's endurable, right?
1:01:09
That's the, that's the endurance side of things, right?
1:01:11
No one is pregnant. I don't.
1:01:15
That got so out of hand. No one's pregnant, everybody.
1:01:22
Want to be like, are you going to report that?
1:01:23
I'm like, there's nothing there. It's literally.
1:01:27
Just Internet chatter that you guys have now.
1:01:31
She wore a shirt that said sister.
1:01:32
I don't know. She ain't pregnant.
1:01:35
Daniel Arnson. Are you all not bored with Tia?
1:01:39
Johnny still sour about male onion?
1:01:44
Yeah, Leaving CrossFit. I think she would have been the
1:01:47
one to dethrone her. Matt broke her.
1:01:52
I appreciate the 499. I am not bored with Tia.
1:02:02
I mean, there's a chance. You never know.
1:02:07
I I think there's something to having somebody super dominant
1:02:12
and watching and seeing if that's the end of the dominance,
1:02:17
yeah. Oh, that's that's what I was
1:02:20
saying. Like when you win it like
1:02:24
usually in at in the athletes last year, I mean, it was like
1:02:28
this for the Bulls, right? Did they were Rodman or not
1:02:31
Rodman? But Pippen was like, dude, duct
1:02:33
tape together. Like he was hurt like shit.
1:02:36
The guy the guys were getting old.
1:02:37
They were falling apart. And it's like everything they
1:02:40
could do to keep that truck running and they pull it off.
1:02:45
And that's generally what you see from a a retiring champion.
1:02:50
But with Tia, it's like, dude, you just beat like you beat
1:02:52
every. It's like retiring with the
1:02:53
title that no one ever beat you to.
1:02:55
Well, it's like, yeah. I mean, I look at like, Tiger
1:02:57
Woods, like golf had its biggest explosion while Tiger Woods was
1:03:01
winning. Yeah.
1:03:03
And then he leaves, and there's a whole bunch of parody and,
1:03:06
like, somebody new is winning every week.
1:03:08
But nobody's dominant. And the tournaments are closer.
1:03:11
You don't know who's going to win.
1:03:14
But viewership dropped and it took a a Rory McIlroy to have a
1:03:19
really good strong. Now it's Scotty Scheffler like
1:03:23
you, you need that somebody that's on the trajectory to
1:03:25
become an all time great or is great to get the the continued
1:03:30
interest. And I get I think it's a little
1:03:32
bit different because it's a three day or four day event
1:03:34
where it's drawn out and by the end of by by this morning, we
1:03:38
knew Tia like it's it's completely over.
1:03:40
Yeah, but so you have more time to be like, oh man, Tia's going
1:03:46
to win whatever versus like the back nine of a of the seven on
1:03:50
Sunday afternoon at the Masters. But if we have somebody new
1:03:54
every single time winning, like it's exciting to see, but I
1:04:00
think you lose a little bit of that.
1:04:01
Like people from the outside know who Tia is.
1:04:05
They want to see Tia win. It's Yeah, it was like that was
1:04:09
Jordan. Oh man, Daniel Anderson.
1:04:13
I appreciate the the donation. I will never be convinced that
1:04:15
she's not juicing. She's the only athlete in the
1:04:18
history of the Games that I am 99% sure that she is.
1:04:24
You're entitled to your opinion. I would say the yeah, I think
1:04:29
you said it right. Like with when Ben beat Frazier,
1:04:35
like we all thought Frazier was was going to just come in and
1:04:38
clean the house forever and then Ben beat him and it and so it
1:04:41
prolonged like the story a little, but I think Rich's
1:04:46
tenure was perfect. Four years.
1:04:48
Can he be beaten? It's close.
1:04:52
And then he he walks off into the sunset, right?
1:04:54
And then it's like, OK, everybody's breath fresh air.
1:04:57
But you had this looming presence of Frazier, whereas
1:05:00
like, oh shit, this guy's for like everybody that your thought
1:05:03
Frazier's going to win it. And then Ben Smith pulls it out
1:05:05
right. And then Frazier goes on.
1:05:08
What was it, 6 year run? Yeah, six years was too five.
1:05:16
It was it was a little too long. 4 would have been perfect.
1:05:21
And I think Tia's is like double, double too long.
1:05:26
She. Should.
1:05:26
Have taken 2 years off and then come back.
1:05:33
No, it was good that she came back when she did.
1:05:36
Yeah, it was a five year run for for Mr. Frazier.
1:05:41
No, I, yeah, I, I like seeing the dominance.
1:05:46
I just, I just want to see, like it'd be fun to see her come back
1:05:49
and somebody beat her. I don't.
1:05:54
I want to watch you walk away undefeated.
1:05:57
I know she's been defeated, but you know what I'm saying?
1:06:01
Like I at the games. I want you.
1:06:03
I want to see you perfect. I want to watch you walk off
1:06:05
perfect. All right, John, that way.
1:06:08
Yeah. That many people do that, so I
1:06:14
don't know. Yeah, we've been going for an
1:06:17
hour. I think we'll we'll come back
1:06:19
and catch up on Wednesday. I'm sure John has some comments.
1:06:23
I'm interested to know that before we get off, everybody's
1:06:26
like right now, before everybody starts talking about the games,
1:06:28
what they thought about it, what they feel about it, what you
1:06:31
guys like 1 to 10, where are you ranking the games this year?
1:06:36
What was the excitement? How did it feel watching it at
1:06:38
home? I went to Albany.
1:06:41
My, I'm in the forest, right? So I can't see the whole thing.
1:06:46
I'm too, I'm too lost in the sauce.
1:06:48
So I really want to know from the home viewers what it felt
1:06:50
like in comparison to other games.
1:06:54
But I got a sense it felt like the same.
1:06:58
It felt like the games to you. Yeah, I mean, there were 60,000
1:07:02
people watching, I think it was. Now it's just on YouTube alone.
1:07:04
We don't know how many people are watching The Zone.
1:07:07
We don't know how many people are watching like the the other
1:07:12
foreign language YouTube channels.
1:07:16
Nobody withdrew. I thought I was exciting on the
1:07:19
men's side. You had Tia go back and forth.
1:07:23
I, I'll get into it on Wednesday.
1:07:26
If you guys are watching, 834 people watching If you don't
1:07:30
watch on Wednesday night. So we'll be there on Wednesday
1:07:31
night. John will be with us.
1:07:33
He'll have his own viewpoints. He was there courtside if they
1:07:39
say all. All games.
1:07:41
He had his first C4 yesterday. So that was that was an
1:07:44
experiment. Yeah, I also saw a photo of him
1:07:47
with his Coco Pebbles buddies, but no, I, I, I thought it was a
1:07:54
good game. I I'm curious to see what his
1:07:56
thoughts are on the programming. I think it was a little bit
1:08:01
different than last year. I can't wait and I think that'll
1:08:04
be an interesting discussion. That's a Mendolano 49.
1:08:08
Appreciate the the support. I can't wait to get my opinions
1:08:12
out. On that, isn't it the only way
1:08:15
to pronounce it the zone? The Zone.
1:08:18
Standy, no complaints about the broadcast for once.
1:08:22
There you go. I I would say about the
1:08:25
broadcast, I would have. The only thing I would say I was
1:08:27
a little frustrated with is every once in a while you'd be
1:08:31
like, oh, look, Justin Medeiros just finished.
1:08:34
I didn't even see him going. Like, you know, they just don't
1:08:37
catch that. And I mean, you have personal
1:08:39
experience of being on the floor and trying to to capture that.
1:08:42
I think it's harder than you think.
1:08:43
It's way harder. I also think the people that are
1:08:45
out there on the on the floor are trained.
1:08:49
They're not. They don't know CrossFit.
1:08:51
They're listening to their the people above.
1:08:53
In their. Ear trying to tell them where to
1:08:55
go, what to focus on. Yeah.
1:08:58
And then they're trying to also be a little bit more coordinated
1:09:00
with what Chase and Adrian are saying so that it matches up
1:09:04
with the screen. Chase did that so many times.
1:09:07
We didn't have to worry about that too much, but like they do,
1:09:12
I know Chase and them try to really do that, right.
1:09:15
Like that was one of the things that he told our crew was like,
1:09:18
you're talking about stuff that you can't even see on the
1:09:20
screen, you know, at times. Syndicate live stream, it's like
1:09:26
it's tough because you're watching it.
1:09:28
Like you just want to be able to tell the viewer what's
1:09:30
happening. But yeah, like there's a good
1:09:32
balance of if you only focus on the screen, Like I don't know
1:09:35
how many times Chase and Adrian missed somebody finishing, like
1:09:39
either two different, Tudor finished one, a few others did
1:09:42
beforehand. They're like, oh wow, who, who?
1:09:44
Where do they come out of? It's tough because so #1
1:09:48
CrossFit is extremely hard to film.
1:09:50
That was the thing that I learned well, like in depth at
1:09:55
Syndicate, because the shots people like visually like like
1:10:01
they they feel good to look at are the up close and personal
1:10:05
shots. But the shots that you want as a
1:10:08
a fan of the sport are the wide ones.
1:10:10
But they don't but. You can't tell who, you can't
1:10:12
see who is who, you don't know what they're in.
1:10:14
Like you need those like really fancy graphics that have like
1:10:17
some way of having the lane markers in the lane on the
1:10:20
overlay. You need something like that to
1:10:23
really help see that. But no, it's it's very tough to
1:10:27
to film. And then other times, like if
1:10:32
the story of the athletes, like if there's a particular, this
1:10:36
happened at Syndicate, there was a story right in front of us.
1:10:39
And I kept Seth Stovall wasn't part of that story.
1:10:42
And he was over in a lane by himself and he was going to do
1:10:45
well in the event. And I kept looking at you.
1:10:48
Yeah. And I was like, don't, I don't
1:10:49
care about him. I was like, he's going to
1:10:50
fucking pin it. And you were like, no.
1:10:52
And I was like, dude. And it's just like, but the
1:10:54
story that mattered to everyone else was right in front of me.
1:10:57
And it was like, that's the one you have to focus on.
1:10:59
And so sometimes, like, you just can't catch them all.
1:11:02
Yeah, like you have to focus on the race.
1:11:04
Like, what mattered in that moment of it was how is Rosama,
1:11:08
How is Luke Parker? How is Ty Jenkins doing?
1:11:11
Yeah, I didn't care about, like, I knew Seth.
1:11:13
Yeah, Seth is doing great. He doesn't matter.
1:11:16
He's not going to impact the scores.
1:11:18
No matter what happens. You got to focus on those 3.
1:11:19
And it's like, you're not going to see it.
1:11:21
And then if the broadcast does see that and they don't know,
1:11:26
like they're not as in tune with it, they're going to go so
1:11:29
focused on Seth Stovall to show him winning.
1:11:31
And it's like, but then you just missed the race of the two guys
1:11:34
that are going for it. So it is definitely tough.
1:11:37
Alex Bridgeforth Dollar 99, my son's 1197 and five.
1:11:42
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1:11:44
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1:11:47
it, watched it all. Good.
1:11:51
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1:11:56
missing from the programming bother y'all?
1:12:00
No, we almost over program them like every other year.
1:12:04
If it was like we hadn't seen them in three years, it'd be
1:12:06
like this is a problem. But like we, we program them all
1:12:09
the time and we did a lot of like we did, we did bar muscle
1:12:12
UPS. They're not that different.
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We did a lot of pressing. We did a lot of gymnastics, a
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lot of a lot of pull. If you didn't have a pull, if
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you didn't have a pegboard, you probably need to ring muscle up.
1:12:23
Visually, they're pretty to watch, but besides that, like,
1:12:26
we tested what they test, yeah. Joe Marco Adrian's catch phrase.
1:12:31
That's right, must have said it 40 to 200 times.
1:12:37
I I get it dude, like you're. I mean my my one time of
1:12:41
experience of doing a broadcast and I'm sure I said something
1:12:45
over and over and over again. I don't know.
1:12:47
You had something you do like, OK, And then a lot, 'cause you'd
1:12:53
be like, The thing is like you're thinking about what
1:12:56
you're going to say next, 'cause you have to be quick and witty,
1:13:00
but then you're also trying to listen to them.
1:13:02
And so you have to sound like you were, you were paying
1:13:05
attention. And that's right.
1:13:07
Does it perfectly. So I I mean I get it.
1:13:13
Slow, steady runner. Dave's work.
1:13:14
I mean, was safe. Glad no one got injured this
1:13:17
year. Yeah, all 60 athletes finished
1:13:23
spin. Did a great job with the B team
1:13:25
along with Tyler. Crushed it.
1:13:27
Dude, I if we get to do that full time, I'd be stoked.
1:13:30
Like I had such a good time doing that.
1:13:31
I do the, I do the teams. Do the teams.
1:13:34
I do the teams at the games, I don't know.
1:13:38
I got in trouble for that last night at the house.
1:13:41
What, like in teams? Well, somebody was bringing up
1:13:45
teams of two or something like that, Taylor's saying.
1:13:47
And I was like, no, dude, you're not thinking about this.
1:13:51
No, I don't. I don't like the teams of two.
1:13:54
I want to figure out what to bring back affiliates to have
1:13:56
them actually compete for something meaningful the team.
1:13:59
Competition needs an overall. DM4 to Justin M win the last
1:14:03
event. He was never on camera but I
1:14:04
think he did. Yes he did win the last event.
1:14:10
He he edged out Hopper or no spray, I guess so, yeah, I, I, I
1:14:17
think teams of two, it's just not enough things.
1:14:20
Interesting. I think, I think teams need to
1:14:22
do something more. Teamed.
1:14:27
I'd say more individual. Yes, I 'cause I get what you're
1:14:32
saying. Like you have to strut the the
1:14:35
abilities of the individual athletes.
1:14:37
Yeah, 'cause what, what my, my parents were here over the
1:14:39
weekend and they watched and they're like, oh, wow, somebody
1:14:41
just lifted whatever. I, I can't remember how much it
1:14:44
was more than the guys or the women.
1:14:49
Like Rebecca Devine lifted more, right?
1:14:51
I was like, yeah, but they're not as fit as that individual
1:14:53
athletes. Like they have like a focus.
1:14:56
It would be fun to have to put some of them out there and have
1:14:58
to do more individualized things.
1:15:02
Grid killed H QS ability to evolve.
1:15:09
Think outside the box and do something like that.
1:15:11
Yeah, the team competition because they don't want to do
1:15:14
what other people do. And I understand that, but like,
1:15:16
hey dude. My philosophy on I don't like, I
1:15:19
don't like that part of it, but I see.
1:15:21
I don't like it but I get it. But my philosophy on teams is no
1:15:26
one gives a shit who the four fittest people who accumulated
1:15:30
together that that doesn't mean anything to anyone.
1:15:32
You have to watch a battle back and forth.
1:15:35
There has to be conflict between teams.
1:15:39
You you need to be able to do what's been says really.
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Like you can strut certain immense you or certain athletes.
1:15:44
You can hide athletes here. But then like they might have to
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like be forced to do something that they're bad at here.
1:15:51
This this game, it becomes a game with teams and it's not a
1:15:57
game right now. It's who just happens to be the
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four fittest people that can put themselves together.
1:16:01
It's fun for no one except for the people who are playing.
1:16:07
Yes, Yeah. No, I I'd 100% agree with that.
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Grit is insane. Yeah, Danielle actually competed
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once this year. Once so anyway, no, if you guys
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are watching now, go ahead and like and subscribe subscribe
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because we're now over 10,000. So we're we're on the road to
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15,000. We're at 10,108.
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Look at that and we will be back on Wednesday, 7:30 Eastern, our
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normal time of the spin. We'll add John in there.
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He'll throw in his comments, he'll get mad.
1:16:39
He better hate the programming because he like he hated the
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programming last year. He'll love it.
1:16:46
Yeah. Maybe we'll maybe we'll try to
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get a special guest. I don't know.
1:16:48
We'll. See.
1:16:48
Who knows? Who knows?
1:16:50
All right, guys, thanks for joining us.
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I appreciate you and in your Sunday of the games with us and
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we'll see you on Wednesday. I apologize to absolutely
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nobody.