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Pig vs Raising Arizona · Cage Match: A Roundabout Way of Meeting Nicolas Cage

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Oh, God. Oh, my God. Right. Which one am I? Three.
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The usual. you right now the usual it's been
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six months yeah exactly come on i'm number one
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where i where i live in my home studio in your
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own heart yeah oh fuck no i'm like seven in my
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own heart well hey look at us we did it and now
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we're recording in person i'm not i'm not a fan
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of this in person yeah yeah it's lost its charm
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yeah it's hard to Don't subjugate yourself to
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the radiance that is my presence. I've missed
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you, too. As you should. I don't know. It's it's
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eight in the morning. I've only had one cup of
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coffee. So this is you're doing, though. Yeah.
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So welcome back to Cage Match. Cooling around
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about way of meeting Nicholas Cage, which hasn't
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worked. And at this point, probably won't. Yeah.
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I'm your host, Sean, here with my co -host, Nick.
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And our producer. Peter, hello. And Rosie and
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Ben are with us in the studio today because I
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drove up from Portland and I could not find a
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dog sitter. So yeah, if you hear the clickety
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clack click clacks, that's Rosie. And if you
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hear a clippy clop clip clop, that's a judge.
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Speaking of judging, that's what we do on this
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podcast. We started with 64 Nicolas Cage films
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and we're down to the final two. That's math.
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Is that math? Eventually. Wait, we've been doing
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math this whole time? Yeah, it's a trick. Sean,
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this has actually been one big long con to get
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you that GED. We're going to get you there, buddy.
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Congratulations, you did it. Next podcast is
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going to be reading comprehension. I wouldn't
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hold a breath on that one. Well, yeah, you guys
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want to talk about what we actually did for the
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finale? I mean, most of the people who listen
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probably already know. Yeah, you were there.
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There are other people who listen to this show
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who we don't know. Yeah. Which is shocking. Weird.
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And thank you for listening, whoever you are.
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Also, thank you for those who have just jumped
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on. Yeah. Stuart. Yeah. Thanks, Stuart. You'll
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have you have three years of episodes to catch
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up on. Then you can listen to this episode. So
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you can't listen to it, Stuart. Yeah. So we were
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able to gather and. put on a double feature of
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our final two selection at a local movie theater
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a little little uh i don't know if they're an
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art house they're a hole in the wall yeah it
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used to be like a yoga studio and then they took
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it over and they run yeah like predominantly
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art house movies but i was talking to cameron
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patron cameron and he was saying that the last
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time he had been at beacon they were doing like
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a kaiju week or something like that or a month
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even i don't remember he was like yeah i'm gonna
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watch as many godzillas as i can this is gonna
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be amazing It's incredible because they do zero,
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so far as I can tell, marketing about what they're
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showing when and where. Yeah, you just have to
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be in the know. You have to just pop in. I was
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getting coffee at my old local shop yesterday,
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and they asked me why I was in town. I'm like,
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oh, we're finishing up a cage match. We rented
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out the Beacon, doing a Nick Cage double feature,
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and a woman who was just having coffee in the
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shop was like... i did not see this i just checked
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their calendar when when could i have bought
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tickets yeah i guess when you rent the beacon
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they don't put anything on there i wonder if
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we had said so if they would have popped it on
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their site or something yeah this is open if
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you did want people to buy tickets yeah so yeah
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next time we have a two cage movie finale we
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can do that in three and a half more years we're
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starting from the top yeah this time we're gonna
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fight to find the worst nicholas cage only the
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stinkers and the ones where he's in it for less
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than a minute what do we need we need 14 more
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movies to have another bracket yeah something
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like that we're not doing that but it was really
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nice to get everybody together and see everybody
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and meet the the folks that i've never met before
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like cameron and yeah that was cameron was the
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one that cameron is the one that you got into
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the show yeah you spoke to them That's your fault.
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Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Outside
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the bird. Yeah, I believe it was the hummingbird
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situation. Yeah. It's a really cool experience.
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I think more people should take advantage of
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that if you're in the South Seattle area. Or
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even, you know, beyond that, like people who
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don't live in this area and have wanted to do
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something like that. Most movie theaters have
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the option of renting for like not that much
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money if it's at weird hours. Yeah. So. Look
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into it. Shout out to The Beacon. Thank you.
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Even though I don't know any of their listens
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to us. Probably not, but who cares? Yeah. Shout
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out to them either way. It's a great place. Tell
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them Cage Match sent you. Yeah, right. You'll
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get a discount. No, you won't. You won't. But
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yeah, what do you guys think about the actual
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experience of watching with people versus like
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most of how we've watched these movies is either
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solo with. the three of us or like you guys had
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the one experience of wild at heart in the theater
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right yeah well wild at heart and uh moonstruck
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that's right yeah i thought it was great it was
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uh it was interesting to me watching pig with
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a group especially a group uh including so many
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people who hadn't seen it before the the humor
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came back out and it was I actually was sitting
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there and I was like, oh, maybe this is how Meredith
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ended up thinking that this was a comedy. And
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then I was like, no, it's still not a comedy
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and they're still wrong. It's a dark comedy.
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I did have the same thought, though. I was like,
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there was more laughter in moments that I didn't
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really think or that would have only kind of
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like elicited like a little bit of a tweak of
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the smile or a little from me originally that
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it was like, oh, that is kind of funny. That's
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funnier than I thought. Yeah. Well, we've seen
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it so many times. Well, that was going to be
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my experience with this is because, I mean, I'm
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not. I'm not a fan of being around that many
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people. Not many people are a fan of being around
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you. I'm fine. That's my whole that's my gimmick.
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That's my shtick. That's just acceptance. That's
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accepting that you're not meant for public consumption.
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That's fine. That's why I do this from a bunker.
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Getting to engage with these movies again in
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a way where there are no distractions. There's
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nothing else to like. pull me out of the moment
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i don't have access to my phone i don't have
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anything to like i don't have the dogs i can
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just like sit i'm just sitting there taking the
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movies i took so much more from both of these
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films that i just watched like less than two
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weeks ago it was kind of like a first watch again
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just because i was so engaged with both of them
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yeah it was a really interesting scene like what
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does and doesn't get picked up on yeah especially
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with the raising arizona like re -watching comedies
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is always kind of tricky because yeah comedy
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relies so much on like the unexpected and that
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fresh that fresh watch that watching it again
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in that space i'm like i already knew it was
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great i'm like this movie's so much better than
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i like i remembered it being yeah yeah the rest
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of the audience reminds you that everything that
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you know is coming is still funny yeah yeah exactly
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yeah all the john goodman freak out in the car
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stuff that's what it's just like rolling i just
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love just the articulation of people's faces
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and just the way just words are pronounced the
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car ride went after the botched mugging after
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the big chase and she's just losing her shit.
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You son of a bitch. For me, it really was about
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that communal aspect. It just felt more fun or
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interesting. And like I've most of these movies
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I've watched on my fucking computer at one and
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a half speed. Sometimes. I mean, sometimes I
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was watching these movies at normal speed. traumatizing
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it's so slow never get that much of my life a
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90 and a 94 minute movie god damn no it's it's
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really interesting i mean i think that there
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is really something to be said about like having
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great audio and having a big screen you know
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and the properly dimmed room and all that kind
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of stuff it's like that does make those in particular
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pig for me it made that much more powerful in
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a lot of ways yeah because that is a movie that
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is you know all about the environment and the
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scene and setting the light. And, you know, like
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Raising Arizona is basically blown out lighting
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all the time because it's supposed to be. Ever
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talked about the cinematography for Pig? Like
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who that cinematographer was? Probably. One of
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the things I wanted to touch on is like our experience
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in doing this project has changed so much. So
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like back in the beginning, like we did talk
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about that and we talked about that as well as
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we could for three doofuses. Yeah. We're still
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three doofuses. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, we've
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changed a little bit of the tone of how we do
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it. You know, now instead we would talk about
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how salsa on your face looks a lot like getting
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beat up. Yeah. It's very convincing. I believe
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it. I mean, I'm always taken aback by how beautiful
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that film is shot. And just, yeah, seeing it
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on a bigger screen in a theater just really made
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me appreciate those little things so much more.
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Just the shots from like outside windows, just
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the framing devices. It's such a beautiful film.
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I think the theater experience helped me appreciate
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the audio design for Pig a lot more because so
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much of it is reliant on like silence and whatnot,
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which was great. Although one of the best. one
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of the best lines in the movie got laughed over
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i know but i mean so i mean the setup for it
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is still it was funny people who have not heard
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the movie or seen the movie before it's like
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of course you would laugh at that but yeah you
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missed the nick cage fuck seattle line yeah i
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told bill about that over dinner he's like oh
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he's like i live there i'm like yeah i like that
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place yeah uh although every time i go to uh
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the thunderbirds game they do a little hype up
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thingy when things are going well and they play
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that song. That's like, but when they get to
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the like, regardless of who they're playing,
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it's always Portland sucks. Portland sucks. Like
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they were playing Vancouver, Canada one day.
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It's just like, I love it. Everybody, all fans.
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Vancouver, Seattle, Portland sucks. Portland
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sucks. That's amazing. That is amazing. I love
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that. It's one of the best things about going
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to T -Birds games. One of the things that I was
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talking to Ira, patron Ira, who came not to the
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movie itself, but came afterwards to hang out,
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which is great. Yeah, he was helping somebody,
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his in -laws move. Yeah. So he can make it. He's
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a good guy. Yeah. But he was talking about how
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speaking of sound design in Raising Arizona,
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like the yodeling stuff has always been like
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a little just like, OK, this is crazy, you know,
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but he was talking about how it got him really
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into like a certain genre of music. And it was
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that movie that did it. So watching that movie
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yesterday in the theater, it really did matter
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more like that music made more impact for me
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than it has ever had in the past. Also, at one
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and a half speed, it sounds really fucked up.
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You're only into fast yodeling. Yeah, speed yodeling.
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All this slow yodeling. Slow yodeling sounds
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like a sex move. Slow yodeling? I don't like
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that at all. Yeah, slow yodeling does sound like
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a bad sex move. It sounds like something John
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would be good at for some reason. I don't know
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why. Because it involves a hat. Yeah, exactly.
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Silly hat with a little feather. Drop down in
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the comments and let me know what you think slow
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to lean includes. And we'll try to put up a video
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on our Pornhub account. We're getting there.
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It'd be great if this were the one video that
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got like. Got a bunch of engagement. Yeah, right.
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Finally. Finally. This is the one that gets us
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discovered only for them. They have like three
12:15
more non -episodes and then we're gone forever.
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This is when Peter discovers the little tab for
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like, oh, click here to allow comments. Oh, OK.
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Let's do this. Oh, shit. i should have produced
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better uh i do want to talk about that for a
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second uh fucking great job putting this together
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peter oh i thought you were talking about the
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comments it's like yeah let's let's discuss our
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comments let me bring up all three of them yeah
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one of which was very nice yeah no that's fine
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that guy sucks uh but no peter put together a
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great show uh put together i had no idea what
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the in memoriam you were telling us was peter's
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like yeah we're gonna have a little in memoriam
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section i'm like did somebody fucking didn't
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it cage die like i know i don't watch the news
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but i think someone would have told me about
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that probably probably um but no it was a little
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clips from a bunch of the movies that didn't
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make it most of which were contenders at one
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point most and a good chunk that weren't yeah
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like ghostwriter one jujitsu jujitsu adaptation
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never a contender it was never a contender adaptation
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a great film though i still think we need to
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do uh an adaptation primal episode just for just
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for fun i'm kind of into that idea yeah i would
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do it Yeah, I mean, I feel like both of those
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movies deserve a rewatching by me. I said I would
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rewatch Primal. At normal speed? At normal speed.
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I'll do it like a regular person. I said I would
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rewatch Primal. Yeah. Yeah, so stay tuned for
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that. The adaptation Primal is going to be a
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real doozy when we kick adaptation again. That's
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the episode that stops Nick and I from being
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friends. Impossible. We'd have to be friends
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in the first place. Boom. Ooh, snap. Yeah, I
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got there before you. You got smoked. it's loaded
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so got me good oh man yeah no it's fun i feel
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very bittersweet about this entire experience
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right now it's like i put a lot of work and enjoyment
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and annoyance into this you know it's like it's
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been really cool seeing the the turnout and people
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actually caring and all that kind of stuff so
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it's like bittersweet is the only word i really
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think of I will say this process of making this
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podcast with the two of you is. I've never seen
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Peter. I've never seen you more elated. Happy.
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Those are the same word. Just the cackling from.
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Oh, yeah. Next, but also just the most mad I've
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ever seen you just trying to rein us two idiots
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in. I know. I wish I had the raw audio from the
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what was it? Ghostwriter and. oh my god with
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this this one why are you fucking jerking off
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at me uh that one i think we were recording in
15:04
summertime too it was like hot in your old apartment
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they were they were juggling bowling balls upstairs
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yeah everything just was like we kept having
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to stop so i kept drinking yeah the green place
15:13
was just the worst between like the person watching
15:16
tv next door Bridge we had to unplug in order
15:21
to record because it was too loud. Those are
15:23
the good old days. The bad equipment that we
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had to start with. The super squeaky benches.
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Yep. Hayden just sometimes coming home. Yeah.
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And then having to be like, Hayden, go sit in
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your room quietly. Make no noise. Yeah, we've
15:40
got the living room today. And then bad episodes
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don't always get recorded from Hayden's room.
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That's right. He was a perfect storm of shit
15:48
for that episode. I love how his furniture included
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his bed. Expensive computer chair, but no desk.
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Yeah. Or computer. Or computer. So you know what
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that chair was for. Cucking. Expensive computer
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cuck chair. but yeah it's been interesting the
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process you know we've jumped around to lots
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of different locations you've moved away like
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having to deal with different technology challenges
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all sorts of shit it's like it's been it's been
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a lot to learn but it's been really i would i
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would say rewarding for the most part yeah yeah
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cut down the setup time for remote people to
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a pretty reasonable yeah three or four mistakes
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i mostly remember the process now uh yeah having
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not had to thought think about that aspect of
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it for a while just staring over a pool of wires
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be like what goes where yeah exactly i know these
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go in things and we never just thought to write
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it down nope that would have been the coward's
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way yeah let's do uh before we actually get into
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voting on these two movies let's do just sort
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of a retrospective like what's like something
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really fun, stupid, memorable, anything that
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you've had in this process that you maybe just
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want to speak on. I've enjoyed, especially in
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the early days, like listening to the sheen of
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like, we made a thing still like going on and
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not having listeners yet. So like our numbers
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were us. Yeah. I mean, kind of. Yeah. But just
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like listening to like. and again i was drinking
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at this point still i mean i don't fucking remember
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the shit i say on this no matter what but there
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were definitely times where like i'd be listening
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to an episode of ours and i would listen to it
17:31
i'm like i should have said this that would have
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been funny and then five seconds later passion
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went polydickle my god it yes so just appreciating
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just being able to appreciate me yeah oh pass
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me our dumbassery and our friendship in like
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a tangible way where i'm like now we like i can
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go back and listen to peter lose his shit over
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fucking next whenever i want and it's such a
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nice memory to actually have captured yeah i
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think that's a good that's a good way to think
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about it i mean for me i think a piece of it
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is that sort of archival aspect like even though
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my computer got stolen that one time and i lost
18:08
a bunch of shit that i've done like all the art
18:10
still exists that's going to exist in some sort
18:13
of internet archive probably forever until the
18:15
internet archives meltdown into the ocean there
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is a small but a very real possibility that this
18:22
could end up someday in the library of congress
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fuck yes i am really excited for when my brain
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inevitably goes and i'm like fucking just in
18:32
a shitty retirement home like just babbling to
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myself listening to episodes of us talking yeah
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and me just talking back that'll be uncomfortable
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for everyone it'll be really weird when you actually
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sync it up exactly and you start just knowing
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all the words yeah and you've got stand -in old
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people to sit down and pretend to be me and peter
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and then you just say the lines at them and then
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they just drool yeah yeah perfect love it just
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like us yeah Yeah, what about you, Nick? You
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know, I really appreciate that this podcast has
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ignited a love of Nicolas Cage films in me because
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this was something like, I don't know, when we
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first started this out, I had maybe seen seven
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Nicolas Cage films total. Yeah, I was pretty
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similar. I think I had seen Raising Arizona,
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Con Air, Face Off, The Rock. guarding Tess of
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all things and then maybe one more and I couldn't
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even tell you what it would have been yeah Amos
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and Andrew yeah I mean there's something I mean
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because yeah when I pitched this idea as mostly
19:44
just like this would be a funny bit I yeah I'd
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seen maybe like five or six Nick Cage movies
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my understanding of Nick Cage was just the jokes
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of like you know He's a bad actor in good movies.
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Like, is he secretly a genius? Like, Nick Cage
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is bad. And we've watched most of his films now,
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and he leaves it all on the table. Out of most
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of the movies I've seen, I can think of maybe
20:04
two movies where I don't think he fucking cared
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at all. I think in most cases, he's trying something,
20:10
and he's putting something in there. I'm like,
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I can say I think he's a great actor in a world
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that doesn't appreciate him. It's the rest of
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our fault. my turn on that is just uh yeah he's
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a good actor who makes questionable judgment
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like in how he performs yeah i mean i think that
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at least he usually gives it his all yeah i mean
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there are a couple of those movies that you know
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the left behinds of it all where it's just like
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oh boy this is really just you needed some money
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yeah yeah but just doing this for the brother
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yeah then he got some of those where it seems
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like he was doing it for the money but also was
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like but wait they kind of need me i get to do
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weird shit now yeah which is great well like
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i'm what i've heard of gunslinger so far my assumption
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is and this is like the same with like jujitsu
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it's like he's there to get his name on a poster
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so they just bring him in they're just like do
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whatever you want we don't care you're literally
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we're paying for your name so those types of
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performances are the most fun for me yeah yeah
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i agree with that i you know not to get ahead
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of it but i'm looking forward to re -watching
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gunslingers before we record so i'm excited to
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watch it i will also watch it again i will definitely
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be less inebriated than i was the first time
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i watched it well so i think we can we can kind
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of move into the actual voting aspect of this
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now but i think one of the things that i'm really
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pleased with from this experiment because looking
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at it at first it was like great idea we'll watch
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all these movies and it'll you know whittle them
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down and then it was like oh my god fuck we watch
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these movies like a bunch yeah each of these
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movies that goes the distance gets watched six
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times in our timeline minimum yeah minimum yeah
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so and that's yeah not counting any of the re
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-watchings that you guys did any of the stuff
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like clip at you know cutting clips from stuff
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any of that you know it's like that's a lot yeah
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that's a lot but it did prove out in my mind
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the the theory that like these are the Best movies
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because you can watch them forever. Like you
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can just keep watching it. You know, a lot of
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people have said, oh, yeah, I've watched Raising
22:14
Arizona like 50 times. Yeah. Yeah. So I think
22:18
that we did kind of accidentally prove our point,
22:21
you know? Yeah. Without science, you know, trying
22:25
too hard. Yeah. Or well, too much. Yeah. Without
22:28
the thought involved in science, we managed to
22:32
science this out. Yeah. And that's good. Good
22:35
for us. it's been a real a real thing like the
22:39
the fatigue that you feel in some films uh wasn't
22:43
necessarily present in the keys which is great
22:45
yeah and i mean we just we just did the final
22:48
four a week ago yeah a week and a half so i rewatch
22:51
i like i'm re -watching these movies in the same
22:54
month right within two weeks of each other i've
22:57
like sat down and watched both these movies through
22:59
and i'm like these still are great like i was
23:02
enjoying every moment of these films neat i'm
23:06
just gonna start speeding up that timeline just
23:08
start watching pig and raising arizona every
23:11
like other day and then every day and then always
23:14
kind of like how i listen to how do i live yeah
23:19
exactly i'm gonna get like special glasses that
23:22
can project one movie on each lens. Will they
23:25
be little crosses? Absolutely. And I'll start
23:29
talking like this. I don't get this reference
23:32
yet. Oh, you're going to love it though. So,
23:37
you know, it's never really mattered for us when
23:39
we've done the decision -making process, but
23:41
we did have everyone in the audience vote using
23:44
little bunnies that they had to put into a box.
23:47
This is your moment people. Yeah. So what was
23:51
the final tally? So the final tally for the people
23:54
who voted and didn't steal the bunnies. Yeah,
23:57
there were some abstentions. Which is fine. I
23:59
respect their choice to steal. They voted for
24:02
Conair. I respect that more. Was we had 19 votes
24:07
for Raising Arizona and 20 votes for Pig. So
24:14
it was wildly close. All those people who held
24:17
out but really thought Raising Arizona was the
24:19
better one. You lost the chance to make the majority.
24:23
Yeah, for real. All it would have taken. Well,
24:26
now, because I don't want to be told what to
24:28
do, I feel like I should go for a zero. You got
24:33
to do what your conscience tells you. Yeah. fuck
24:36
it primal yeah primal primal primal all the way
24:40
baby great white jag you need to cut the podcast
24:45
right just dead air dead air patreon yeah no
24:51
no outro nothing it's like done primal this one's
24:53
for you stewart yeah uh michael and over the
24:57
course of the next five years michael will finally
24:58
listen to this podcast and get to the last episode
25:01
it's kind of the equivalent of like It was all
25:05
a dream. Yeah. Going into this, I was so sure
25:09
that like Pig was like just a solid. It's Pig.
25:14
It's got to be Pig. But again, getting that fresh
25:16
watch of Raising Arizona in that space, like
25:19
where I'm just locked in and I'm enjoying it.
25:21
This movie is so great. It stood the test of
25:24
time so well and it will continue to. And it
25:27
is so approachable and perfect. And everyone's
25:31
performance is outstanding. that just the whole
25:34
time i'm watching i'm like it might be a reason
25:37
yeah racing arizona also get elevated pretty
25:40
hard just by being in the theater i think that's
25:43
one that benefited a lot from the larger format
25:47
whereas pig you can really interact with it almost
25:53
to the same level in a home situation yeah i
25:56
agree with that as uh the the cinema experience
26:01
which was still terrific to see it in. I mean,
26:03
like you said, and like you said with Pig, like
26:05
those comedic moments stand out a lot more when
26:08
you're in a room. So being able to enjoy that,
26:11
enjoy a comedy with people like that was elevated
26:14
Raising Arizona a lot more in my mind. Yeah.
26:19
Well, why don't you go first, Sean? Tell me what
26:22
you think and I'll take the opposite. Classic
26:27
Cage match. I'll explain it poorly and just really
26:30
get you angry. Super classic Cage match. I think
26:33
of this entire experiment, the best thing I'm
26:38
taking away from this is Pig. I love that movie.
26:40
Huge respect for Nicolas Cage, giving that performance
26:45
when he did in his career. And the fact that
26:48
that movie, more than I think most of the stuff
26:50
he's done in 20 years, really shows. those chops
26:53
like he is that still that amazing character
26:55
actor and when he is given the right material
26:57
and a love for the material he just disappears
27:00
into that role and he is the world's greatest
27:05
actor because he can still do stuff like that
27:06
raising arizona's classic raising arizona is
27:10
damn near a perfect movie and i love it so much
27:13
and getting that fresh watch i really sells me
27:17
like that's that's his best film like for this
27:19
like that's the most rewatchable film That's,
27:22
well, like I said, Pig's my favorite film, but
27:25
Raising Arizona is his best. I'm inclined to
27:29
agree that Raising Arizona against every bone
27:34
in my body. Wow, we really just have to commit
27:36
to this video. No, I agree. Raising Arizona is
27:42
like the epitome of a Nicolas Cage film. It's
27:47
got just. big choice performance it's got a great
27:51
character it's acted out phenomenally um great
27:56
direction great script everything uh it's fucking
27:59
nines all over the place is that what people
28:02
say nines dimes fucking it's good skibbity toilet
28:06
um and pig is a beautiful film with great sentiments
28:13
and Terrific performance and will always be something
28:18
that. I enjoy raising Arizona for sure. For me
28:23
is the choice in this. It's like you said, it's
28:27
a near perfect film. Yeah. Right on. I mean,
28:31
I disagree with you guys, but whatever. We're
28:35
solidly back into a position where your opinion
28:38
doesn't matter. I know it's great. So I love
28:40
not having the pressure of this. We're going
28:42
to go with the minority vote. No, I think from
28:45
the beginning for me, Pig was always my favorite.
28:47
It shouldn't have been a surprise because it's
28:50
rated well. Everybody loves that movie when they
28:51
see it. It really did surprise me how much I
28:54
like it and how much I still want to rewatch
28:56
it. But I totally am fine with Raising Arizona.
29:00
I think it's a great movie. I enjoyed it every
29:02
single time I've watched it more. So, you know,
29:05
each experience has grown for me, even though
29:08
I still would prefer Pig to be the winner. But
29:10
yeah, Raising Arizona, great movie. Yeah, I'm
29:12
going to just... the nick cage of it all when
29:16
you think of nick cage when you think of those
29:18
performances that really have made him the name
29:20
he is hi mcdonough is definitely up there and
29:24
just it's so good yeah yeah the nick cage of
29:30
it all yeah you know the whole reason we started
29:33
this yeah exactly all right fuck yeah raising
29:38
arizona Good work, Coen brothers from 1987. Right?
29:41
Yeah. You stumbled into something nice. Yeah.
29:44
Well, yeah. Do you have any final thoughts? Thank
29:47
you, everybody who came on this ride with us
29:49
and encouraged our chicanery for this long. Yeah.
29:53
Or at least not just straight up canceled us.
29:56
Yeah. And thanks to all of our guests. Peter,
29:59
list out all of our guests. In order. Okay. I
30:02
actually can do that. Yes. Oric. Eric. Gary and
30:07
Rox. Meredith and their brother Evan. And speaking
30:10
of siblings, Alex and Sammy, Shay, my brother
30:14
Phillip, Marissa, Daryl Edge, John, Josh, Jimmy
30:19
Harad, Brandon, Derek and Ryan of the Coming
30:22
of Cage podcast, Josh and Rich of the Nick Cage
30:25
Fight podcast, Petros, Alex Guy, Linda, Donnie
30:30
and Adrian of Cage's Kiss podcast, Seth, Brian
30:33
Kim McCormick, Chris Koffel, Ian, Lunchbox, Lauren
30:37
Freeman, Tank, Alec, Ross, Carlos, and of course,
30:42
Hornquack. But yeah, no, I mean, all our guests,
30:45
it was awesome. It was a very fun experience
30:46
to have that. I think that's one of my favorite
30:48
takeaways is the guesting on here really changed
30:51
our game. Not having to just talk to us. Yeah.
30:53
Yeah. I mean, the guests really helped with this.
30:56
Yeah. And I appreciate all of them. Me too. Thank
31:00
you all for coming on this trip with us. Yeah.
31:03
And, you know, special thanks to our patrons.
31:05
I'm really amazed that you guys supported us
31:07
this entire time. To our Sparkle Buddies, Josh,
31:10
Sean, Josie, Rico, Matt, Adam, Bill, and Stuart.
31:14
Right at the end. Thank you, Stuart. Stuart.
31:16
Stuart. To our Gage Dancers, Ira, John, Freeman,
31:20
Lance, Nathan, and Cameron. It was awesome celebrating
31:24
with the people who could come to the movie.
31:26
And we're not done making content. There's stuff
31:29
that's going to come out still. They've got bonus
31:31
episodes. He's got movies coming out. He's got
31:34
movies. He's got shows. You'll get surprise drops
31:36
occasionally. We've got older films to talk about,
31:39
too. Yeah. So we're not gone. But we are forgotten.
31:44
We're just done arguing in the same format. Yeah,
31:47
correct. No more. No more voting. Yeah. Now we
31:50
get to just enjoy things. For fun. Gross. Yeah.
31:56
All right. Well, thanks. Sean. Nick. Badass.
32:00
We did it. B -A -D. Yeah. Slow to us out of here.
32:06
Bye. Bye. Rosie, come here. You're going to go
32:31
to the bathroom. You're going to whine in there,
32:33
but just don't bark, okay? Famous last words.
32:39
Yeah. That's what I say to all my dates, too.
32:44
You're going in the bathroom. You can whine,
32:46
but don't bark. No barking. Yeah, how many dogs
32:53
got bit at Pete's house? Fucking... Benjamin
32:59
Franklin Gates and Ozzy just bite each other's
33:02
faces. Yeah, that's what they do. Dog makeouts.
33:06
Touching tongues. It's an intimate moment. Yeah,
33:10
that they do on other people's laps. Yeah, do
33:14
that in private, you fucking pervs. Yeah. Ozzy
33:17
can't help it. He's got that St. Helens in him.
33:21
I know the feeling. I'm about to start biting
33:23
faces and licking mouths.