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Finding Home Far From Home, Portland Protests, and Dating by Faith with Benny · The REALationship Method

• 0:08
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to another episode of the Relationship Method Pomac.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's your boy Chris.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_01: Today I got a very special guest.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um content creator.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, sir.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh content creator.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um this cat is not a local.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: He's from um Portland, Oregon.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, sir.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sir.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you Trailblazer fan?
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 0:27
  unknown: No.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not a Trailblazer fan.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a Dame fan.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a Dame fan fan.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a Dame fan.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_02: Not a Trailblazer fan.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not a Trailblazer fan.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a Laker fan.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a Laker fan.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: We'll talk about that too then.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: I got this motherfucking Benny on this bitch.
• 0:39
  unknown: Yeah.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_01: What's up, man?
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_01: How you doing?
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: Bro, I'm vibing, bro.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: Vibing?
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_01: Dog, how did I get the yes?
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: Or like, how did uh this happen?
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like coming up.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, my version, I mean, you probably have a different version.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: Kind of wanna see the same.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I just seen I just seen your uh your pod, and that was when I just started doing the content-ish, started popping on social media, and I seen your pod, and I was like, bro, like it'd be cool to get on the pod just because I was trying to connect with more people from Hawaii, more creators in Hawaii, and like so I just hit you because I seen I seen you was popping.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: So I was like, hey, let me let me get on the well, get on the pod.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_02: Because like I I knew that like collabing with other creators, yeah, is kind of how you're gonna be able to grow.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm a people person and like forget the the content creator.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just here to make connections with more people here.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it was just like just seeing your ish.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like months ago, yeah.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, yo, put me on if you try, you know, if you need a co-host, put me on.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: Because like at that point, like a lot of people I've noticed were like they were trying to collab with me because every time they every time people in Hawaii, or just in general, when people see somebody's going viral or something, they're like, oh yeah, like let's collab.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I just use that as an opportunity to like connect.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, not that it's for the clout per se, just as like I'm trying to meet more people because off the camera, it's it's this.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: I feel you, I feel you, yeah.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_02: So, and then thought you forgot about me.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, dude.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't, I really don't, man.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's just lifing, bro.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm messing with you.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'd be laughing.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: No, I do appreciate you coming on, and we were talking earlier, uh, Portland, Oregon.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: What what's the move like?
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: Why did you move out of the store?
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: Why did I move here in?
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and not like Arkansas or Hot Name, Dubai or Wai Hawaii.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_02: So it's so crazy, and that's why like even less this this like everything in Hawaii that's happened is like unexpected, like it's all God, like it's out of my control.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I hate I don't like living in Portland.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um actually 22 I moved like to Cali.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_02: I moved to like like San Diego area, but like it just was the right it just wasn't the right time, it wasn't my vibe.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_02: Moved back.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh two years later, went to school, and then 2024, I was because every two years I kind of get this like I'm trying to leave.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: Because it's cold, there's not Aloha, there's not like the community, there's not it's not really a community breeding state.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um so uh wow um hold on.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_02: Why'd you move?
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I moved because Yeah yeah.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, so I wanted to move just because I went like I was bro, I was depressed, bro, because it's rainy.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_02: That's good.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_02: I was depressed.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: I mean it's not good that you're depressed, but it's good that you just you made that move because you knew you were depressed.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like I was depressed, and I and I was kind of I was kind of like tripping because I'm like, how do I have so many people?
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like, but I and I know everyone here, but I don't feel like I have any like community.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_02: Especially being a person of color, it's like like why like I have my my people my peoples, but we we can't even find the time to like like actually hang out, you know what I'm saying?
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's what's tough about Portland is everyone's just on the go.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like it's it's just hard to like have like like get together.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_02: And I and I'm like, I grew up in the church, I'm a part of like a mega church in Portland.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_02: So I was kind of frustrated.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, bro, like how we're in a mega church, we preach all these things, yeah, but like I can't even come to my my pastor's house for dinner.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_02: I can't even come through to your crib because you you're busy and you're this and you're that.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm like, I'm not that ain't really what I want to be a part of.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: So in a transition where like my pastors moved to LA, right?
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_02: And like I was like, because I was like, I went to Bible college, so I was like heavy into like well like Bethany or Bethista or something.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's it's a private no that's but that's this Cali.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_02: I went to this uh pu this college called Portland Bible College.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_02: And so like I was at the end of my two years, and my pastor left to LA.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm like, bro, this is the time, like this is the time where all the transition is happening, yeah, like for you to to move if you want, uh-huh, right?
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_02: So I was gonna move to Florida because I was gonna go because I was gonna move to Florida because I wanted to be around more black people, right?
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_02: So I went and like I wanted to be around good weather and black people, and I was like, and I already done Cali and I didn't really like like it like that.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I was like, oh bet Florida.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_02: And I visited, I mean my bro took a trip to Tampa and we went to Miami, and then I found a school out there that like could make like housing and everything cool.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_02: I I had savings, so I was just gonna go out there, and that was my decision, right?
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that happened like I visited like September of that time, right?
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_02: Then I visited Hawaii in November because my friends um would had like a young adults retreat out here, and so I came out here and I seen like like I was telling you off the off-air, like everything culture, bro.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like we're pounding poi, we're we're in the low e-patch, we're growing.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_02: I'm seeing all these things like and like I'm a Christian, right?
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_02: So like seeing like how they use the Hawaiian culture as a way to get closer to God was like very touching to me.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like I like I go to mega church where it's like a concert, basically, you know what I'm saying?
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's not really like a lot of substance to it.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_02: So like just seeing that, and then I met I met uh the organization I'm with now, Campo Yape, where we help kids whose parents are incarcerated and we mentor them.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_02: So I connected with them.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: And like, you know, like not everybody can connect with locals, like kids.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's like I feel like that's a special, like that was like a sign, like, oh man, I'm I'm connecting with y'all, you know what I'm saying?
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_02: Especially with like all the history and everything.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so like, but so then I was like, you know what, I can move here, you know, especially like being with locals and seeing like the Ohana and the Aloha and like everyone's like a family.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I could just see that in a week.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like in my brain, I'm like, if that's if that's one week, imagine a whole year, right?
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_02: So I was like, you know, yeah, I might, I might, this might be the move.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_02: But then you go back home and you get scared and you're like, uh, should I I don't know about the the rulingness, you got your friends in your ear, and they're like, yo, like, Ben, to you should you really do it?
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, but then all so then I was like, nah.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, no, I'm going to Florida, even though a lot of people was like, Ben, I think you'd be good in Hawaii, you know what I'm saying?
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_02: So, but I'm like, nah, I'm going to Florida.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm pushing it, right?
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_02: But then all my doors like closed.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like my school denied me admission.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_02: I couldn't really find a job out there.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: I can't really find like a roommate to rock with me, because I mean Miami's expensive, you know what I'm saying?
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: So like then I'm like, okay.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_02: So it's either it's either you stay in Portland or like you make the push to Hawaii.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_02: And so when I when I like applied for the housing for the school that I'm at right now, and they accepted me, I was like, bro, going.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_02: And like a month later, I moved.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_02: So the origin story of school, like yeah, the origin story, it's school, like school is the vehicle, but it's more of like everything everything else, everything else, everything else was good, but then school was just like the nail in the coffin.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, all right, Hawaiian.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: But and because I didn't like because it's like either be depressed in Portland and hate life, or make the jump and just see what happens.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_02: So I was more on like that mode than like staying, like in my comfortability.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_02: That makes sense.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: How uh how how long ago was this?
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_02: This is like a year ago.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: So I I've been in Hawaii for a year.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: Do you see yourself staying out here for like more than like say when when you graduate, are you still staying out here?
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_02: I wanna I I want to say yes.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_02: I just don't like I just don't know if my like my financial situation will work.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like, because I'm like, I feel it, like even right now, like I feel it heavily.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_02: I want to say yes.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I do, do I want to draw roots here 100%?
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like I like that is my goal.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_02: I just feel like I just don't know where the my limit is.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_02: Of like, because it's a lot to be here.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like, oh, it is.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: It definitely is.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like if we just look at financially, it's a lot.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's oh god, yeah.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: You need like two jobs, a side hustle, especially if we're by yourself.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_02: And so I think for I think for me, it's more about like financially and more about like I think it's more about that, you know, in all in all honesty.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, man, that's what's up.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: In Hawaii, like, I feel like it offers everything that I want.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_02: I do, I do wish that there was more black people.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_02: I really do.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm not gonna lie.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like, even if I know you're black, yeah, I miss it.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_02: It's and and I know we have our military people, yeah, but it's like I'm not on I'm not on the military though.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm not seeing you.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not I'm not really seeing, I don't see a lot of us.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there a lot of them they're they're in Chinatown.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: Or uh whiskey dicks.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: Or they're whiskey dicks.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: Right, they're they're turning up, yeah.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: You can't see them like a real night, exactly.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't want to see where you wasted out your brain, you know what I'm saying?
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm trying to have an actual conversation.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, oh definitely, and I have been blessed to have like I have two really good friends out here who are black.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and like we've gone close, and like so like, and I mean a lot of islanders look black.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like that's kind of helped, but like I do miss I do miss our culture.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so it's like it's it's between like how much do I miss black people and being around the culture, and how much do I miss like like having some bread?
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh you know definitely, oh dude, definitely.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: What's your nine to five if you don't mind me asking?
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I work for State Farm.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_02: I I just recently got hired from State Farm.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of in between.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: So you're bouncing all that as I'm in school and stuff?
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like yeah.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_02: What's your major?
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_02: Biblical studies.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, nice.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: Are you almost done?
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_02: Bro, no.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm trying to take it part-time.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, bro, like, like I said, you need bread to make it to make it out here.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_02: So like I'm just kind of like, like, I'm I'm just taking enough classes to be able to live in a house.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_02: Afford to live here.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_02: Because I live in a nice house, bro.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like I should not be living in this house that I live in.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's it is it with kahala people, is it with students, or is it with so it's like a a two-story house um with like 10 rooms.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's like five up, five down, double kitchen.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like not, and we have some empty rooms, it's like eight of us.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: You know, but it's cool as hell.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_02: But it's cool though.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_02: It's like it's cool.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: But it's cool, like, like I said, I should not like I should not be able to afford to live there.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like, those are a million dollar plus hopes.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that for sure.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well, uh, you say Kahala Kal kahala.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: Kahala, yeah.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: Where is Kahala?
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_02: Kahala, it's like it's like 10 minutes from Waikiki.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's in town.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's like 15 minutes from Al Moana.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think of um like like say the tourists that come through town?
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: Bro.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like what you think about?
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, like three months into it, I liked it because it felt like Waikiki to me feels like Vegas.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like it feels like the strip.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_02: Strip, yeah.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, like I'm like, and so as a newcomer, you're like, oh my gosh, you know?
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm like, nah.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not rock, like, not say I don't rock with them, because I rock with people, but I that whole like, bro, like it's the idea of you're gonna leave in a week.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like I can't, I can't connect with you.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, not that whole knowing if you're gonna be here tomorrow or if you live here, uh-huh.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_02: It's that like I don't rock with it.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I feel you.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's how it is with um like on the active side of the military.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: We're only on a post for like three to four years, at least we extend.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: So it's really hard to make you know those connections with people.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_01: And then um, you know, as a family man, it was hard for my wife to find like down to earth, solid, solid folks.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh, definitely, yeah.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_01: Especially like in the military.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like, because you don't know these spouses.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, for sure.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: No, and and it's crazy because like I've like, bro, like been able to meet, like, meet some people who have the like the met the marriages in the military, they kind of weird.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: I plead the fifth on this one.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_01: I can't, I really can't stay.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: I can't.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: I I mean I've seen it.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: I've heard, I've seen.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, you know what I'm talking about.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm talking about.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: You don't expose nobody, but oh yeah, I'm not nobody.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: I know, I know several folks.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, listen.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_01: If you know, if you know, you know.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_01: If you know, you know.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, dog, man.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I've been uh I've been stocking your page and stuff.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you've had uh you've had some um uh encounters in the dating scene.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: Me?
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: How hard, yeah, how hard is it?
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: You said I've yeah, yeah, like how hard is it?
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like I've seen like your post on like trying to date and stuff.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: How hard is it to get like to land in person?
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: Bro, it's tough.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: Is it?
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, why why do you think it's why do you think it's well is it tough for me?
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like I don't think I don't think it's I don't think it's tough.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: I think I think it's 50-50.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's the reason I I'm not gonna say it's tough is because like I think the culture here, it's people are approachable.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh definitely, yeah.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: People are like welcoming.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't I don't feel like talking and approaching is the is the difficulty for me.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_02: It's the like finding the right person.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's right.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_02: It's finding the it's finding the values in in like in what I want.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like, cause I mean, shoot, like if I wanted to just go to the beach and chop it up and talk to story, I don't feel like that's hard.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like it's not if you want to if you want a girlfriend, that's not hard.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like that, I don't think that's hard to do.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_02: There's plenty, there's plenty mixers, there's plenty of social events, there's like there's clubbing, there's beach, there's go to the food market.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't feel like as far as like getting out and approaching, I don't feel like that's tough.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's finding the woman that I want like to move like along like forward with.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's the difficulty.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: Are you picky?
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: Are are you picky with within?
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: What's a uh what's the top three?
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: What top three character characteristics of a of a woman that shit you're looking for?
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_02: Definitely woman of faith.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like, gotta be in the church.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I but and that's the thing, like you can't just be like, oh, I got the verse on the on the bio.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you gotta be like living it.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um, to I mean, can hold a conversation.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_02: Definitely, yeah.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I feel like because it's like I don't I've been in those relationships where it's like like I'm doing most of the talking and it's awkward, you know what I'm saying?
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like versus like stuck on their phone, no, not on their phone, just like like they they're an introvert.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_02: So like I'm an extrovert and you're an introvert and I'm talking and you don't have you don't talk.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: So like I think having a conversation funny, um, and just kind of like trying to grow, someone who wants to grow.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people want to like be stagnant.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like they wanna, they don't really want to um have a like and I'm not I'm not saying I'm perfect either.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm working on myself.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: But I would say out of those with like come to mind, I would say like are the three huh.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: I tell people a lot, uh, especially like the young kids, like, there's more life than the rock.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: You should definitely expand your life.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, than the island, yeah.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh yeah, because I mean there's more, way more opportunity out here than than here.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Hawaii's gonna Hawaii's gonna be here.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, regardless if you know, you leave for five to seven to ten years, it's gonna your family's gonna be here.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, don't be stuck, like, because there's a lot of kids and a lot of people out here that just wanna stay.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm like, and they've never experienced anything except for Hawaii life.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_02: No, I know.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, just what were you gonna say?
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm just saying like it's it's okay to to venture out that way, yeah.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I and it's yeah, I get it though.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like, because I'll be confused because people be like, Oh, I'm trying to go to Oregon.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, why do you want to go to Oregon, bro?
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_02: But like because they lived here, uh-huh, they want to go, they want something else.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: And and even like being here for a year where I feel like I've gotten, and I could be wrong, but I feel like I've just gotten the ultimate local experience.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I I kind of I don't feel like I've reached the ceiling, but I I feel like I've experienced more than the normal foreigner.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like I'm even me, I'm like, what I'm looking for the what else.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: And and thankfully, like I've been able to get the more else.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like the more else for me is like, okay, you've been here for a year, a lot of people know you.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like, okay, how are you gonna trend like how are you connecting with the people?
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like I want to take this year, this next year, I'm here as a like, how do I actually get in with communities in the front line than like social media?
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_02: So I think for me, that's but like like I said, that's my why, that's my like push to stay longer.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: Depending on who you are, like that could not like my push may not be someone's push.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: So I oh definitely.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_02: So I understand like you've been here people been here for 30 years, bro.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_02: I I I probably want to shape too.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like especially when when like not even in the US, the world.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: Bro, there's so much world here.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, and it's like me, like I've being in Hawaii, where this is the closest thing to a non-America I've been introduced to.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's like part of me is like, bro, forget America.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: Not not because I don't like where I'm from, and not saying that America doesn't have like all these great values, but it's like I feel like being in a half like half America, half not kind of bro, I like the benefit of not half America.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: I do too.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: No, I do too.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: Me and my fam, we like it too.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: We're not we're not in the drama, we're like on our own thing.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: It it's funny that you said it because um me and my boss were talking like last week how when all these riots and all these things were happening, like on the mainland out here, it was like non-existent.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: There's no riots, there's no picket lines, there's no like masses of people doing their thing.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: They're just they're on the sidewalk with their signs and everything.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: But that's like the most of it.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: No, for sure.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like no proper damages or whatnot.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: Bro, let me tell you, bro, bro, test me on this a little bit.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, bro.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_02: We're talking in 2020, bro.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_02: That in Portland was crazy.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_02: How crazy was it?
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like, bro, there were people were looting, people were looting the Apple store, breaking into the Apple store, licking out the store.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: They were rock uh Louis Vuitton, like they were that first day, I don't remember like of like the riots, bro.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: People and I and my friends were with these people.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like, they're they're like, Hey, we got the Louis V on the snap, you know, on Instagram.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_02: If you want some Louis V, sell them.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: People are selling the Apple books, Mac books, like, and then so there's that, there's the looting piece, and then Like there was curfew, right?
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: People didn't listen to the curfew.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: And me, like, me, I'm and as you can like see via social media, like I care about like politics.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_02: Not politics, but activism.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like when I see like cultures who have been like oppressed, like I like, I like fighting for that issue.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: I might not be at every protest, but I like what I can be a part of, I'll be a part of.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_02: Especially as an African American man, right?
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_02: So I went out like day two, and like the the cops were like, bro, curfew get inside the house.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_02: People weren't listening.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: And they're and they started throwing um the smoke bombs.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I was, bro, I was, I thought I was gonna die.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_02: Tear gas.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, uh-uh, uh, right?
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I was and in that moment, bro, like that's when like I knew it was real.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like, because you seeing everything on TV when you're in, and I was just on a march, I was just on a protest, and you're just in there and seeing the police like like throw a tear gas at you.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's when I was like, I ain't rocking with the police.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: And then, like, also too, I was trying to, we were walking back to our cars, bro, and like downtown Portland, it gets kind of confusing at night where your car's at.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_02: So we're walking, bro.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_02: Police are just following us, bro.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I and like, and we were going up a street, but like I was like, Oh, my car's not there.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_02: So then we like go back down the street, but it was a one-way.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_02: So the ops are thinking we're messing with them.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_02: So they come out and they're like, yo, you know, hey, why are you messing with us?
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_02: You better go home.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_02: And they're like shoving us.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_02: Some like, I'm just trying to find my car, right?
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_02: And in that moment, like I was a very traumatizing, like, I was like, nah, bro, I'm not rocking with the police at all.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and and you know, I've I've healed from that.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: I've had my you know, people like my mentors to walk me through that, but like Portland was crazy.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_02: Did you see Portland at that time or no?
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: I was um, I was following it, following it on the news.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, like I was already out here.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it wasn't what the news was hyping it up to be, but it in my opinion, it was bad.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, because you're you're on like ground zero.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was like there.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_02: It was yeah.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: What's the difference between Portland cops and Hawaii cops?
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_02: Bro, bro, Hawaii cops are the nicest people I've ever met.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_02: I at least for me, the year I've been here, I feel like as long as you're not like wildin', yeah, they're not really gonna bother you.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: Portland cops are they uh are they predominantly like quite out there?
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like it What you mean?
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like Portland cops, are they quite?
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_02: Quite, what does quite mean?
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_02: White, white.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_02: Are they white?
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_02: Portland is the whitest city in America.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_02: Is it really?
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: They're white, and yeah, there's you we could argue there's they're racist.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_02: We can argue and they're not playing, they'll pull you over.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like they're like you, I don't I'm not gonna say I don't rock with cops because that's like like there's not there are good cops out there.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_02: But like I've been pulled over plenty of times.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_02: Uh huh.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_02: I've been ticketed, like they're not messing around.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: They're on the scene.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_02: They will, if you're over past 10, 15 miles of the speed limit, they're on you.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: They're on your license.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm surprised you still have my license.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like, yeah, bro.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_02: The cops are not the not the greatest.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_02: Are they good Portland cops?
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, for sure.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_02: But the stigma of Portland cops, I would say they're not.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_02: They're not the kindest.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: Let me tell you, my cop run in, and this is like several years back.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh huh.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and um, so uh I work out at a 24-hour gym.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_01: My car gets broken into, right?
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: I call 911, this and the third.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: A cop comes.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: This guy was cracking jokes.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, oh, maybe if you would have washed your car, they would have like not broke into it.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: He said that to you?
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: So it was like some big, you know, some big Hawaiian, and it just seems like he just didn't have no care in the world.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: Me, I was I was hot because I got my shit story.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, man, hey, I was like, respectfully, man, hey, dude, fuck you, dude.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, he was like, no, bro.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm just at that point, I'll I wasn't even listening to him.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, dog, man, you a joke-ass cop, dude.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: You ain't getting nothing, man.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: But that's like the only run-in I had with the copyright because yeah, I mean, I'm I drive the speed limit.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I really don't go pretty fast on the highway.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: I like to chill.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, that's like my only cop running, and that left like a real bad source.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, I mean, it's it's past.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: But hey, hey, it's because it's because he was cracking shit, you know, cracking jokes at my whip that just got broken into at that point.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: What kind of whip was it though?
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: It was a it was a dodge ramp.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, what year was it?
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh 2019.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh, yeah, so it was nice, then.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it was a nice thing.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: And all they still all they stole was like my uh granted, I had a backpack, uh-huh, but there was nothing in my bag.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, so they just they stole like an empty bag.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: They thought something was in the bag.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but my bag was like on the floor where you know, like I tried hiding it.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: I guess I didn't hide good enough.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it was like underneath my seat where my baby, my baby carrier was.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, how did these motherfuckers like they had to scope me out?
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like they had to know where I parked at every morning at that time.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: But that's wild, yeah, man.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like I ch dude, because I saw it happen.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: Because I when I walked out, I heard bang, bang, bang, and I thought it was like a generator or something, right?
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know it was someone smashing my window.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I saw them and I like I sprinted, but then they they got they got in the whip and they left, and then yeah, man, like wait, did you see their face?
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't see a face, dude.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: I just know that they drove in a like a silver forerunner, and I was like, dog, there's no way in hell I could, you know what I'm saying?
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like I could just say, hey man, that's crazy.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but that was like the first and last time running it, you know, through the clubs.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: Every other time it was just more of like a DUI check.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: Just be like, I was like, Uncle, nothing to drink, man.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just taking my kids home, you know, taking my wife home.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like, oh, okay, go on to the show.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, no, no, I know, bro.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've never talked to police, but like, like I like I said, like I don't I don't feel like watch out for the tops.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, yeah.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if you ain't doing nothing wrong, there's nothing.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_02: And and even like even I feel like even if you gotta be like going out your way to do something wrong.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, you know what I'm saying?
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't feel like like if a cop makes you see do a turn and you and you and you don't do the turn signal, they're not, they're not about to get on you.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, like you gotta like, you gotta like run a red light, yeah, like abrasively.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like it was you, it was like you you did that ish on purpose, and then they gotta be like, okay, all right.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_02: But like just these little these little things, I don't really think they're oh no, no, not at all, dude.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: Not at all.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_01: And what's your go-to um like food out here?
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: Food.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um, go to food, like I'm gonna be honest.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_02: I've been eating a lot of raisin canes.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_02: I know that's not really like I'm be honest.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go black man, you know what I'm saying?
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_02: I rock with zippies.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, zippies.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_02: Bro, I try to just I try to um I try to meet as much local food as possible.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like Tulua Pig.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um not a big fan.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: You're not a big nah.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: No?
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: Nah.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_01: Why?
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_01: Just I don't know, just something about it.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just like, like, if it's there, I'll eat it.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: But if I have to pay for it, I'm like, I'm doing something, I'm getting something else.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: I feel I feel you.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'll get a 7-Eleven sandwich or something.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know, or something.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_02: I do like, I speaking of 7-Eleven, I do love Mana Pulas.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, that'd be good.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_02: I do love um Lao Lao.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_02: I do love me some Lao Lau.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: Is that the leaf, right?
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's the leaf thing, yeah.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's like a hit or miss with me.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, hit or not.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_02: No, I know, because if someone makes it good, it's good, but there's if if you don't have like because there are not good lao lao.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe I had like a messed up batch to where my first encounter with it, I was just like, nah, I'm I'm yeah, I'm no for sure.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: Pass, you know what I'm saying?
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: I don't like poke.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: I don't.
• 30:39
  unknown: Huh?
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_02: You like sushi?
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_02: I do what I will say, bro.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: Hawaii is the only sushi I'll have.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_02: I don't eat mainland sushi.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_02: But I'll but I can do the sushi here that's got um with the sauce on it.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: What's it called?
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: The mayo?
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the spicy mayo.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like like I'll eat that.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: But but that's also a hit or miss.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_02: But Hawaii is the only time I've eaten spike like some sushi, and be like, bro, this is this is nice.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's icy.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_02: I do like cooked spicy ahí though.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's pretty good.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_02: Cooked tuna?
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's pretty good.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: I do like that.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's pretty good.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: I had poke uh back on the mainland.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, dude, I'm not, I can't.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, bro.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so like different state, it's it's just better out here.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know that the thing is, I have had a lot of good like food.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_02: I just don't know what the name is.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay, a lot of like you know, but like I like uh what's what's the uh what's the katsu?
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: I like some chicken katsu.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: You know, like I like the I like the generalized foods.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_02: I couldn't tell you the name of like oh, um Pikaala.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: Don't know what that is, bro.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's beef, it's like beef, bro.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's like kind of tipped into a state.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_01: That sounds good.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's good.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's good.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_02: That sounds super good.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_02: And and only reason I know these foods is just I've been blessed to be good friends with a lot of locals.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm just I'm I'm actually headed there after this pod, like Hawaiian homesteads.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_02: They live in Eva Beach.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_02: Uh huh.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_02: So I've been like I said, I've been blessed to be like Thanksgiving, Christmas, right?
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_02: We're having food every time, every time I'm at my mentor group, Hawaiian food.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_02: So I've just I've just been every after church every Saturday.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_02: Or because um I go to church Saturday because so we have our let our kids go to church with their uh parents on Sunday.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Hawaiian food.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_02: So I just but I don't know what it's called though.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_02: I just had it.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: I've had it, yeah.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, that's what's up, man.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you this then.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: The women out here.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: Man, let me let me ask you these women like as a single guy, uh-huh, because I'm married, uh I'm not I'm not chasing.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: For sure, for sure.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um how are they?
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: How are these Hawaiian women?
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: Bro, I'm gonna be honest.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not I'm not the spokesperson to I'm still trying to, I'm gonna be honest.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: I'm still trying to figure it out.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: Because for me, and here's and this is just my like my struggle with like just cultures in general, like Latinan cultures.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like I have I know how to like connect with you on the surface level, but like getting past the deeper like part of your culture, I feel like I always hit like a wall, right?
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_02: So because how like just keep it a beam, how I risk a black woman might not be how I raised a Hawaiian woman.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_02: How I risk any like how you risk is gonna be different, bro.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't even know how I'm using the word risk.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_02: I hated the word risk.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_02: I hated that.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like I hated, I hated I I use the term spit game.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's kind of more, you know, you know what I'm saying?
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's like that's my generation.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but like, like I said, how you would connect with different women, yeah, like will um will differ.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_02: And I think for me, it's like I don't I don't want to use this as a diss, but there's a lot of RBFs, a lot of like stone faced, you know what I'm saying?
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I look at you and you seem upset.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_02: So it's kind of hard for me as a joyful man, like I'm you look angry.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: You look like you hate me, you know what I'm saying?
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_02: But I know it's like I know it's that's like not all the way true, but it's just for me, it's hard to get past the like the cultural like piece.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't I couldn't tell you like how they are because I'm I'm still trying to figure them out.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I feel like it's like it's like for me, it's like because I could riz you, but you can end up being like not the greatest person.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like that's why I'm like, I try to get into like like more church spaces or like faith-based people, because it's like um, like I said, could we riz any, like, could I just go up to you and be like, hey, you're cute, yada yada, yada?
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but like you might not be the greatest woman for me.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's like for me, that's kind of been as far as my year here.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'll I will say that like women out here, they flirt.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: They be flirting.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they be they be flirting, and it's like it's in your face.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_02: They're bold with it, you know what I'm saying?
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like, oh hi, you look cute, you look nice, you know what I'm saying?
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: So I can see, I can tell when a woman is like liking me or attracting me.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like, and that's what I will say is a pro.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_02: There's like, you know how like in the mainland people be like acting hard to get?
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like they be playing hard to get, like, oh, I'm not gonna show I like that this person.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think I haven't found a lot of that out here.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like it's either they like you or they don't.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_02: They'll let you know.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_02: Whether that's in the conversation, that's in the compliments, that's in the, you know what I'm saying?
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like, interacting, you can tell when someone likes you.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_02: So I I will say, as far as like interacting with them, I feel like they're great.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: And and speaking of that, like the reason like I have this viral post about like Hawaiian Queen, right?
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_02: The reason I made that post, other than I knowing that locals would like that, right?
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_02: Because when you're here, you're you kind of get a sense of like what local is like, yeah, and what they don't, right?
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_02: So like I knew they would like that post.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_02: I knew a Howley dude, Papolo man like myself, I would go crazy.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_02: But also, two reasons why I made that post was A, I have a lot of respect for the queen of Hawaii.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I have a lot of respect for the monarchy and like what she did to protect her people, for the land, and how even like her values, they even after the overthrow, and like we're talking centuries, have made their way here.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_02: Not a lot of not a lot of cultural, like ethics of different cultures make it past, like, they sometimes fade out.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_02: And so for me, I have a lot of respect, even just being able to tour the palace, right?
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_02: And like see what it actually is.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_02: I have a lot of respect.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_02: And I would want my wife to be like the queen.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_02: Also, the woman I've been around, they have great values.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: They cook, they're family-oriented, they like, they love God, they're direct, they tell the truth, you know what I'm saying?
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_02: They're they're community-based, you know what I'm saying?
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_02: They serve, they're humble, like good, good values that I don't really see on the mainland like that.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but there's but again, there's the the good woman who was raised, right?
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_02: And then there's the Tita.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_02: Who be getting lit?
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_02: Who be getting who we out there, who be, you know what I'm saying?
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's like, I wanna, I don't want the Tita.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_02: Anybody can get, and I'm not saying there aren't good Tita's out there.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not, I'm not down, I'm not, I'm not saying nothing bad about y'all.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, like, for what I like.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's not for you.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's may not be for me.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and because hey, some women, hey, they be having attitudes too.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's just it's a different level of attitude.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the attitude, I will say, is different.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: It is, you know what I'm saying?
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like, they be having an attitude when there wasn't even a reason for the attitude.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, yo, I wasn't even done for you.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: But they're like, but then again, I do think like that level of strength of like, oh, you're not about to play me.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_02: I like that.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: I like the healthy version of that, right?
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, I'm not gonna let you pong me, you know, and because there is that sense of pride, like you're not about to come for us, like come for me feeling, but there's a toxic version of that and a healthy version of that.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_01: That makes sense what I'm saying.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, definitely, definitely 100%.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you this then.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_01: So, coming from the mainland, and I'm coming from the mainland too, have you spoken to people that because I'm military, yeah, that there's a lot of Hawaiians out here that don't like the military.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I guess I got a pass because I'm brown, right?
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so have you come across that to where oh you're trying to live here?
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like locals are not rocking with the military?
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_01: No, not rocking with the military, but rocking with non-locals trying to live out here.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean how like how did how did that come across?
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_02: How like I so is your question how did like the whole when how do how how like Hawaiians feel about people who are not from here living here?
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, when I when I'm one of them, right?
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_02: We're we're both we're both.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_02: We're both but like me that quickly that quickly happened when I started blowing up on social media.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like I I figured that out fast that because actually it was crazy.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_02: I had a post that I posted.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_02: Because majority of my not majority, all of my posts are the the intent is to big up Hawaii, show love to Hawaii, and just show love.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's never, it's never hate, it's never nothing negative.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_02: So I had this post one time and I was like, man, you know, uh Hawaii is one of those places where it's expensive as frick, but like, but like I feel at peace, right?
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_02: And so I was like, yo, if you don't wanna, if you don't wanna, if you wanna have peace and have good expenses, because like Cali's expensive.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, definitely.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, hey, pull up.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, bro.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_02: They took that one line I said and they flipped it.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_02: They was like, oh yeah, oh yeah.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_02: Don't be telling people to live, to move here.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_02: And me, like, when I hear that, I'm like, okay, help me understand, right?
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_02: Because I don't want to be acting like, you know, prideful, like, oh, stop telling me this.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_02: Help me understand.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_02: Because obviously I missed the message, right?
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_02: And so what like a lot of people showed me TikToks and stuff of like, hey, look, like every every person who's displaced, every person who moves here, displaces a Hawaiian.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_02: And I understand that.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I I I totally get that.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_02: So, so do I do I I'm empathetic?
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_02: I show love.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_02: So when it comes to that, like not people telling people to move here, I understand that.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_02: I understand it.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_02: But like, I'm here.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_02: I can't move that.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I like I'm already here.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like, if so that's been my experience with it.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's like there's a there's culture.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like I've experienced that like wall on the internet.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_02: When I'm talking when I'm talking to real people, I don't really get that.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_02: I don't really get the whole like even the whole Howley thing.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't really, when I'm connecting with people, I don't see it.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_02: I see it all on the Instagram.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I see it when people I see people reacting to people or to me or to any other like people is not from here.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I see that reaction.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_02: Or like the turtles, people touching turtles.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to agree with that.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_02: That's a there's a law.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_02: Saying don't touch the turtles.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_01: If my kids know that law, then it's yeah, bro.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like the law.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like, don't do it.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like don't touch the turtles.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_02: And and right, if you don't know, if you don't know, I get it, but if but if like someone is you're touching the turtle and you a local saying, hey, don't touch the turtles, don't touch the turtles.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_02: So so like ignorant with that.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, stubborn.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_02: And I feel like locals though, I feel like they can tell that whether you knew or not.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_02: So I feel like in my in my experience, I've just tried to show myself humble and like, listen, I didn't know, I don't know, and help me understand if you want to have a conversation, we can have conversations.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_02: Because that's that's how we break that barrier of like for me, that's how I broke into how they hate.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_02: And there's some people that be hating, and they just hating.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_02: They're just haters, bro.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_02: It don't matter.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_02: You can go to so you can go to their house and give them a plate of food.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_02: They still hate it.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_01: They still hate it.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_02: So with those people, and that's where like discernment of like knowing when that is, and you just ignore it.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: Because the reason they're hating is they're seeing like you popping and you're not from here.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_02: So they just take that opportunity to just throw a shade.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I and I and I'm pretty and I don't have a lot of videos where I'm getting hate.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_02: It's been just a couple.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_02: So like for me, I I've I've received more love than hate.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_02: So the little hate, small kind hate that I get, it's not really nothing.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: When it gets to that point where it's more hate than love, then I might have to I might have to take a, you know, a a reflection of myself and be like, hey, am I tripping?
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: But like I'm again, I'm around real local people who are like, well, let me know, like, hey, bro, I wasn't cool.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, bro, like, that was kind of weird.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_02: That was kind of not lit.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_02: That was kind of not cool.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like I I gauge, I gauge like what not to do and what to do off of them.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_02: And plus, I've just been around a lot of cultures, bro, where like I know how to assimilate myself and connect and kind of how to how to connect with other cultures, and that's just by like learning.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_02: And by like being willing to learn.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I feel like locals, when they can see that you're trying to learn, you're trying to big their culture up, then you you win.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_02: So like all the so all the how the oppression and racism there is, I feel like I've been able to maneuver it.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_02: This is with how I carry myself.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: And so especially when people see like I'm I'm trying to be for the people, when they see me t like touching hands with real people and I'm not just here for the clout, I feel like that's helped me a lot too.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_02: Because locals can tell a clout chaser.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, definitely.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:24
  unknown: Yeah.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_01: No, because um, I came across like several people that's um they thought I was from here, you know, really tattoos and the way the way I looked.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_01: But then when I open my mouth, like, you know, I'm in trouble, you know what I'm saying?
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: But uh it's because I'm in the military.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's the thing, is like, oh, you're in the military, you know.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oahu's like predominantly military and stuff, and like, yo, get out.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_01: But then they say it in a funny way where I don't take offense to it.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_01: And also, I'm just like, I'm here, you know, I got stationed here.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's it wasn't my choice.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's kind of my choice, but you know, yeah, for sure.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_02: And you're and you're different because it wasn't your choice, right?
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, was it my choice?
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_02: But like I made a choice not knowing about like all the I didn't.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's the thing.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know all these things I'm figuring out.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know about that.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_02: And that's my beef with America, is that nobody's telling nobody about this stuff.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like, bro, we had a march, Onipa March, a couple days ago on the 16th, and about how they're fighting for the overthrow and the queen and all that.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nobody even knows about that.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know about that.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody I didn't know it.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_01: It was an advertised yeah, yeah.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_02: And in in the mainland, it's a state.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_02: Uh huh.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like, they'll they'll teach about the Alamo.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_02: They'll teach about how Texas was like used to be Mexican border, yeah, yeah.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_02: And we took it.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_02: They we know about that.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_02: We don't know about the Queen and the Hawaii and all that.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_01: So it I think it's oh my, what did my kids say?
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_01: Because I had a coup uh I had two kids that that graduated high school from here.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_01: And they told me that um Hawaiian like history, it's uh they teach it more than the history that's taught on on the mainland.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_01: Because on the mainland, I didn't know nothing about Hawaii history.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_01: Bro, me neither.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: I know, I know about M L K, Abe Lincoln.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_01: I knew I like the the default stuff.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_01: So coming out here, I don't know nothing.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_01: They're telling me stuff, and I'm like, dude, why why didn't I learn?
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_02: Right, no, and and that makes sense because it's Hawaii.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like they got, yeah, yeah.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they gotta do it.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like keeping up with five too.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's that's wild.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know that was a thing.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like I didn't know Hawaii had its own, like prior to coming here, I didn't know they had their own thing.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_01: I just they just talked to people.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_02: The only thing Hawaiian I knew was Hawaiian fruit punch and Hawaiian pizza.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's it.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's all I do.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_02: So like like and even like when I see a Hawaiian on in when I was in Oregon, okay, like I have, I don't know what, like, I don't know anything past looking at your skin.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know where culture comes from.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, like nothing.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like, so it's interesting just learning like all all of that here, of like, and and to the point, and to be fair, it's like America doesn't really do a good job representing cultures anyway.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like as an African American, I thought, hey, only thing to Africa was Black Panther.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_02: We're talking forever.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_02: But like when I go to Liberia and went to Liberia and seen like, bro, this is not, it's not what it actually is.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_02: And there's like many pockets of Nigerians and Ethiopians and just kid haven't been able to have like be friends with them, yeah.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_02: That's not what they're teaching us.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, again, they only teach us slavery, they don't teach us like anything past that.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh my god, so it's like bro, yeah.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_02: So I've just so it's like, and that's why I love this place, because every different place has the same problem.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like, so it's just being here and being able, I as far as for me, this has been the easiest.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like, how do I learn?
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_02: How do I connect?
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, how do I like, yeah.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_02: I just feel like out of all the cultures I've been around, this has been like the easiest culture to connect with because culture is me.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_02: Culture is my personality, yeah.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_02: So, and I'm black, so I do I do relate to it too a little bit.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like, we do have similar oppression, not to make this about oppression and everything, but like, but like we do have similar, our cultures have similar stories.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know?
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, definitely, yeah.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_01: So oh shit.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_01: God damn freaking system needs to be fixed.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_01: No, but sure.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh yeah, because um I think uh the curriculum in schools need to be like updated because there's more history that's happening now than that's being presented in school.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: And also the economics of school, it's I mean the economics is totally different from how it was way back in the day.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_01: To where a dollar meant a dollar back in the day, but uh a dollar here means it's like worth 27 cents.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so they need yeah.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_01: School do better.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: Goddamn, do better, man.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_01: Come on now.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_01: God damn.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_01: I've been teaching our kids the right thing.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, before we dip out, Doc, uh, time's up.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, tell me about one more thing.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_01: Tell me about like tell me a date that you've been on in Hawaii that I guess left you astray.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_01: That you know what I'm saying?
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like you had a you had a good time, but it just didn't work out.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_01: Either you fumbled or she fumbled, or it's just this ain't it.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think about it.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm not I don't know.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_02: You don't need a date.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't been on too many dates, bro.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_01: Hung out with a woman?
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_02: I have I've kicked it, yeah.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_02: I vibed, but like I'm not I haven't done like what you'd probably think.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_02: I've been on like crazy amount of dates.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_01: So a date to me is like, God, because it's so different within a person, right?
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like prior to my wife, a date what for me was going on an errands run with someone.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I feel like dating, yeah, like not the not the movie, not the dinner, like skip all that.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm different, you know?
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_02: I would say, well, I don't I don't feel okay.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's hard to say that because I don't I don't I didn't have a lot of dates that were bad.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I don't like I don't so what what like they just stopped it from they just didn't they just didn't want to like oh continue, yeah.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't feel like I've had bad dates where like oh bro get me out of here you know what I'm saying it was more of like you just didn't want to you just didn't want to continue yeah not and not that's nothing wrong with that not that I totally nothing wrong with that not that I was looking for continuation yeah it was just like hey you know still do some food it is what it is yeah it is what it is yeah what it was nothing like oh bro I hate like you know what I'm saying it was it was more like and plus I'm I'm busy I'm doing a lot like oh yeah working that's good I'm serving the community I'm at school I don't have a lot of time you know what I'm saying so it's like the one the one couple times that I went like out to dinner with somebody is like it just didn't it didn't it wasn't bad yeah like I don't have you know plus you know plus it's like bro like I feel like with the women I've been able to like encounter out here it's like I don't have anything bad to say about them oh definitely yeah like it's like bro like you're like this is my first year in Hawaii you know what I'm saying I don't what what can I say what can I say bad like yeah like like even if there might be some characteristics that I might not have liked I'm not you're you're an experience that I had so it's like I don't I don't have anything really negative to say about like the dates I've been on.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_02: Oh well you know what that's good that's good interactions nothing negative I have nothing negative here folks you know I'm saying like we we was we reaching positivity you know what I'm saying yeah yeah so I mean I don't I don't have any bad dates that's good that's good dog you got any uh you got anything before we dip out man dude that was fine bro I honestly I wish Oh I popped your cherry but you know this is your first pot hey first pod this is many's first pot first pot of many hopefully oh yeah definitely oh yeah listen did I did I get the did I get the call back you get the call back dog I'm not gonna leave you with red I thought it's me I'm I'm like repeating bit I like repeating business hey people hey people get the call back it's just them either they leave me on red get back to me or they say this they um they check the schedule we'll get back them not getting back for sure so I just I just keep on moving man no for sure man for sure you leave me on red button I'm not listening to leave me on red here broth nah none of that um you got any shout outs or anything or where can these people find you at uh y'all can find me on Instagram TikTok the real favor uh it's spelled it's T-H E R E A L and in favor it's spelled F-A-E-V-U-R the favors wherever you are you know what I'm saying um find me on YouTube too favor F-A-E-V-U-R me out here this guy's motherfucking slate wherever you are yeah it's uh oh man that's funny hey KO Studios thank you for the lovely home Raffi Bite thank you for the lovely vibes man uh with that I'm Chris shoots oh dog me have to say your your name too okay again cut to I'm Chris I'm Favor and we out this bitch peace already now