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Optimising Your Brain, With Neuroscientist, Dr Sherry Majd · Hardiness with Dr Paul Taylor

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Speaker 1: So doctor slash assistant professor slash associate professor.
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Speaker 2: Oh no, don't go through that. That is just said
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Speaker 2: doctor and assistant professor is perfect.
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Speaker 3: Sure, a sherry doctor, all of that. Welcome to the podcast.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I'm praid to be in podcasts.
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Speaker 2: It's very insightful podcast and thank you for inviting me.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm looking forward to this. Now.
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Speaker 1: You've got a very very You studied mid word for
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Speaker 1: I in Tehran and then did a masters in human physiology,
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Speaker 1: then a PhD in neuroscience and you're doing done post
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Speaker 1: talk stuff in brain injury and repair and neurodegenerative disorders.
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Speaker 1: So that's correct, people listening with the Brian fascinating, fascinating.
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Speaker 1: So tell us how did you what was the jump
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Speaker 1: from mid referee to physiology to then neuroscience.
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Speaker 3: Where did that come from?
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Speaker 1: Ah?
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Speaker 2: Well, actually I really loved, you know, I still loved
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Speaker 2: to have to ask for my two beautiful nieces, and
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Speaker 2: then I went to midway free, and then I went
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Speaker 2: to when you got your studying different subjects undergraduates, and
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Speaker 2: then you get some interest or more passionate about some
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Speaker 2: other objects, well some of them less you know, interesting,
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Speaker 2: and then I found physiology, so I tried to go
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Speaker 2: through physiology and I got my Master Deer in human physiology.
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Speaker 2: And then by gary physiology you get actually to know
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Speaker 2: more about different parts of body, which is like one
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Speaker 2: of them was brain, and then I got more interest
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Speaker 2: in brain. So it's just like jumping from one platform
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Speaker 2: to the other. And then I I did to go
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Speaker 2: on a study brain, which is neuroscience. So I got
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Speaker 2: my PhD in recess. And then usually after getting your PhD,
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Speaker 2: you usually go for postag and you're a ner scientists,
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Speaker 2: you know that. So I went to Howard Follering and
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Speaker 2: sit in Melbourne University and I got my first post
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Speaker 2: tag working on Nordica Alzheimer Parkinson. And then I went
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Speaker 2: to Canada to dal House University Psychology department and I
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Speaker 2: got my second postage again mostly focusing on Alzheimer disease,
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Speaker 2: but also the other aspect basically therapeutic aspects of Alzheimer disease,
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Speaker 2: working for kind of the Industry project which was about
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Speaker 2: Alzheimer's disease. And then yes, and then decided to come
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Speaker 2: back to my second home land, which is Australia. So
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Speaker 2: I came back to Australia and then I joined Flinders University,
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Speaker 2: which I'm still a junct lecturer at filand News Universe.
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Speaker 2: I continued my research also my teaching mostly focused on
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Speaker 2: nervous system physiology, part of physiology of nervous system, and
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Speaker 2: then mostly neuroscience again about brain aging and brain situation
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Speaker 2: in you know, healthy brains and also magical condition which
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Speaker 2: is mostly dementia and alzheimer. So I managed to publish
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Speaker 2: a few papers with prestigious journals, congresses, and then you
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Speaker 2: know what you usually do to expand the research and
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Speaker 2: when you're passionate about something.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely sure of the Global Conference of Neuroscience
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Speaker 1: and Your Degenerative Disorders in Germany in twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 1: that's pretty must have been pretty colt, Yeah, that.
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Speaker 2: Was, yes, Yes, actually going to congresses and conferences my
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Speaker 2: area of neuroscience about neuroscience that actually gives you kind
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Speaker 2: of excellent opportunity to meet new people and learn about
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Speaker 2: what is going on in different groups and what are
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Speaker 2: they doing in that particular area. My area of limer disease,
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Speaker 2: brain aging, oxidative stress, everything, and you learn so many
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Speaker 2: things that you haven't even thought about them. So just
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Speaker 2: like I think. Also usually Congress gala dinners are really nice.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, excellent, and then the Congress gala dinners you
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Speaker 1: temporarily do the stuff that you shouldn't do if you.
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Speaker 3: Want to prevent your degenerous disorders.
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Speaker 2: Correct, that's right, exact.
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Speaker 1: So isn't it interesting the very nice, strong overlap between
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Speaker 1: psychology and neuroscience, and particularly in the research, whereas twenty
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Speaker 1: years ago that wasn't such a strong overlap.
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Speaker 3: But no, you see a huge, huge crossover.
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Speaker 2: You exactly, Yes, it's a very big overlap. As you mentioned. Actually,
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Speaker 2: psychology has a more long lasting background compared to neuroscience.
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Speaker 2: Neuroscience is kind of the very young area study of research,
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Speaker 2: but it's kind of I can tell you young. Psychology also
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Speaker 2: in combined with physiology and the other aspects of human
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Speaker 2: you know, studies and everything, but there is a very
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Speaker 2: big overlap, especially when it comes to the aspect of
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Speaker 2: neuroscience and pathological situation, which is not about physically it's
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Speaker 2: about physical symptoms, which you can get it definitely, but
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Speaker 2: at the same time, there are some things that you
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Speaker 2: need to more beyond that physical symptoms, especially for the
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Speaker 2: people who are taking care of that person cares. For example,
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Speaker 2: for also a very disease. So psychology think of one
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Speaker 2: particular area of just about that patient. Is about the
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Speaker 2: inter society which is related to that patient. I can
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Speaker 2: give you one example, for example, for a person with dementia. Well,
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Speaker 2: there are most of people know about the symptoms of
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Speaker 2: dementia forgetfulness, cognitive functions and kind of getting impaired, and
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Speaker 2: but at the same time, taking care of that person
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Speaker 2: that requires a very big, huge, difficult job. And that's
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Speaker 2: when psychology comes to the field and you think about, okay, psychologically,
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Speaker 2: that person is getting depressed, that person is getting sad,
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Speaker 2: that person is getting isolated, and then you need to
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Speaker 2: go through physical aspects of the disease, not just for
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Speaker 2: the patient, for the people around it, for the family members,
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Speaker 2: for the friends, for all the people who are engaged
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Speaker 2: in that kind of situation, not just de mensia, any
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Speaker 2: kind of neurogenerative disorders or brain disorders. Psychology comes to
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Speaker 2: this field and start talking about these aspects. Is about,
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Speaker 2: for example, getting a little bit from positive psychology, getting
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Speaker 2: a little bit from first aid psychology, and then put
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Speaker 2: them together. And now this gives you better tools to
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Speaker 2: basically take care of that situation and just going down
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Speaker 2: the road. Of course, there are something that you cannot
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Speaker 2: that's again about science.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I think I think the other linkags
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Speaker 1: as well is that a lot of particularly early psychology
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Speaker 1: was was worth with theories that were you know, theorized
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Speaker 1: by psychologists to explain behavior. And then with the advent
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Speaker 1: of bring and we started to add a lot of depth,
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Speaker 1: uh and also and maybe some tweaks to those theories
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Speaker 1: as well, So and hence, you know, the whole the
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Speaker 1: whole field of neuropsychology were were then able to associate
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Speaker 1: certain behaviors with certain areas off the breing or scenarios
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Speaker 1: of the Briand so that I think the two sciences
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Speaker 1: are overlapping more and more and more, aren't they.
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Speaker 2: That's true, No, that's totally correct. Yes, yes, And as
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Speaker 2: you mentioned, more the science progress and more new fields
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Speaker 2: of different fields involved in those kinds of pathologies discovered,
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Speaker 2: the overlap would be even more and more. And just
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Speaker 2: I think it's just about the entire science. Then you
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Speaker 2: don't at the moment, you know, you don't. You cannot
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Speaker 2: think about your science without thinking about let's say, anatomy,
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Speaker 2: without thinking about even math. So everything is so much.
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Speaker 2: You know, the science is here expanding every minute, and
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Speaker 2: then the overlap getting bigger and bigger. So it's just
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Speaker 2: very complicated, but at the same time very sweet to
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Speaker 2: undress that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I think it has to there
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Speaker 1: has to be more and more overlap because science, but
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Speaker 1: it's very definition, is very siloed, and so you know,
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Speaker 1: we we go siloed pathways and tried to break things
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Speaker 1: and you know that that whole cartesi and world view
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Speaker 1: and try to understand things and the smallest component. But
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Speaker 1: often that misses the fact that we are very very
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Speaker 1: complicated ecosystems, and that's where the overlap starts to lay
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Speaker 1: a bit of color and depth to things, doesn't it.
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Speaker 2: That's totally true exactly. Yes. The other day I was
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Speaker 2: thinking about ice cream, and I love ice cream, and
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Speaker 2: then actually it came to my mind that well, when
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Speaker 2: you think about ice cream, and most of the people
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Speaker 2: that I know, they enjoy eating ice cream, no matter
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Speaker 2: if it the winter, love just ice eating ice cream.
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Speaker 2: Most of the people I don't.
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Speaker 3: Know about you, I don't mind. They all bitter, very
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Speaker 3: good ice cream.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So and then I thought this should be something,
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Speaker 2: and I knew that there was something behind it in
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Speaker 2: the brain. I went back through some search and some
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Speaker 2: you know, actual scientific papers, and I thought that the
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Speaker 2: brain enjoying it. You know when you love and you crave,
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Speaker 2: you know, you see an ascript shop and then you
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Speaker 2: just jump inside it. It's just about your brain telling
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Speaker 2: you go get one ice cream for me. That's it.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 2: Everything is so nicely, sweetly comfort overlap and it's about
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Speaker 2: the human nature.
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Speaker 1: And actually big food is using that to its advantage,
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Speaker 1: particularly with ultra processed foods, and the bliss point in
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Speaker 1: the brain and that combination of fat, salt or sugar,
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Speaker 1: any two of those three that if they get the
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Speaker 1: balance right or reward systems that release dopamine, that says.
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Speaker 3: You need more, you need more of this stuff.
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Speaker 2: Right, you just said it exactly.
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Speaker 1: So let's let's talk a little bit first of all
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Speaker 1: about neuroplasticity, because I think acid revolution in neuroscience, particularly
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Speaker 1: in the last twenty or so years since particularly fine
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Speaker 1: I think it was nineteen ninety seven the research paper
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Speaker 1: Neurogenesis and the Adult typ of Compass.
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Speaker 3: I remember that, and that was the.
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Speaker 1: First time that we find that you could actually, but
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Speaker 1: we now know the brain is capable of huge amounts
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Speaker 1: of neuroplasticity, much more than we thought. So give our
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Speaker 1: listeners a sense of just how much neuroplasticity there is
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Speaker 1: in the brain, and what are some of the things
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Speaker 1: that we can leverage this neuroplasticity to our advantage when
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Speaker 1: it comes to our behaviors.
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Speaker 2: Sure, I'm more than happy to talk about this. This
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Speaker 2: is the area I know.
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Speaker 3: This is a rabbit.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so actually, exactly as you said, there was
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Speaker 2: not many things well known back to nineteen eighty or so.
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Speaker 2: What it comes to nineteen almost at the end of
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Speaker 2: twentieth century. It's actually trying to be a very big
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Speaker 2: area of interest. And the reason that it turned to
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Speaker 2: a big area of interest was before that people thought
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Speaker 2: that the brain is a very fit and you think,
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Speaker 2: like when you think about it, you think whenever, still
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Speaker 2: this is the myth, and they think that whatever you
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Speaker 2: learn during childhood five, six, seven years old and then
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Speaker 2: it stays with you forever, and then you actually kind
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Speaker 2: of lose that ability to learn more or to just
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Speaker 2: develop your brain even more something like that, and it
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Speaker 2: comes to a plasticity. They actually found that this is
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Speaker 2: actually the scientific things that you said, like this is
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Speaker 2: backed up by science and they found this is not true. Actually,
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Speaker 2: the brain is capable of evolving, of developing itself, you
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Speaker 2: name it, in a different areas moment that you breathe
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Speaker 2: on this planet. So you are bored with one hundred
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Speaker 2: billion neurons, you're not gonna lose them, even of course
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the healthy brain, not a disease brain.
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Speaker 2: You will the person will is born with one hundred
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Speaker 2: billion and then dies with one hundred million. You have
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Speaker 2: losing them. Not only you are not losing them, but
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Speaker 2: you almost start generating the new neurons. Not in a
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Speaker 2: massive range such as like a skin a skin, you
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Speaker 2: know that, Like you're just making constantly new skill cells
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Speaker 2: and then that's it. But Bill is able in a
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Speaker 2: special area of such justify caabus as you said, to
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Speaker 2: create neurons. Actually it's about the range of around a
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Speaker 2: thousand neurons per day, which is not a little number,
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Speaker 2: it's actually a big number. And then this comes to neuroplasticity.
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Speaker 2: Share what is your plasticity, Name your plasticity the superhero
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Speaker 2: of your body. We think that there is no superhero
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Speaker 2: outside in reality, but actually there is one superhero, and
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Speaker 2: that is through plasticity. Why we call it superhero because
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Speaker 2: that gives you that extremely powerful power to the things
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Speaker 2: that you dream about them. So what is happening inside
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Speaker 2: the brain? There are cells, there are neurons which their
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Speaker 2: jobs basically are talking to each other. This is the
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Speaker 2: job of the brains. That's why they need to connect
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Speaker 2: to each other. They connect to each other and then
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Speaker 2: whatever this one feels and wants to send to differ,
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Speaker 2: it will send it through the connections. So the message
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Speaker 2: from the first cell goes to the second cells, second
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Speaker 2: cells to the third cells until it gets to a destination.
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Speaker 2: That's why we are able to do the things in
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Speaker 2: a day. We are able to contract our muscles, words,
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Speaker 2: we are able to talk. You are able to do
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Speaker 2: just then. So this is about those connect So more
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Speaker 2: connections you have a stronger the message will go through.
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Speaker 2: That's called neuroplasticity. So when one neuron wants to give
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Speaker 2: that a strong message fast and quick the second one,
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Speaker 2: it makes more connections, more hands so the message will
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Speaker 2: go fast and more powerful to the second one. That's
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Speaker 2: why we can learn, for example, playing piano. When I
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Speaker 2: want to play piano, and I start practicing with my
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Speaker 2: fingers and my eyes saying the notes and listen to
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Speaker 2: it hearing the notes, those connections getting bigger, stronger, and
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Speaker 2: exactly more nemerous. So you have lots of connections in
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Speaker 2: that area of the brain which is responsible for playing piano.
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Speaker 2: That's why the people who are playing piano, professional people,
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Speaker 2: they have that area a little bit bigger than normal
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Speaker 2: people who are not playing piano. So you have more connections,
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Speaker 2: you have more actions of that area. Albert Einstein, he
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Speaker 2: didn't have more numbers of neurons cells than somebody like
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Speaker 2: me or a normal person, but he has more connections,
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Speaker 2: and that actually makes that person smarter.
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Speaker 1: Right, wasn't his sorry, wasn't his corpus colossom particular?
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Speaker 2: Exactly he had more extrocytes. Of course, he didn't have
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Speaker 2: more neurons, but he has most astro more astrocytes, which
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Speaker 2: is kind of This is another type of cells which
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Speaker 2: are not sending message, but they are acting as some
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Speaker 2: sort of nurse nurses for the other exactly, supporting bringing
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Speaker 2: them some nutrients that they like, defending them against some
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Speaker 2: of the bad, you know, unwanted things around in the environment.
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Speaker 2: So these are kind of protecting those neurons, making sure
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Speaker 2: that they are doing their jobs perfectly, perfect more of them,
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Speaker 2: of course, yes, which was good. But the most important
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Speaker 2: thing is he had more connections. And as you said,
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Speaker 2: chrcos COLOSM was bigger in his brain rather than like
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Speaker 2: compared to the normal people because of those connections. Right,
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Speaker 2: those connections are actually physical connections made of proteins. Just
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Speaker 2: actually they're not just they're just actually physical connections. So
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Speaker 2: coming back to your plasticity. That makes the neuroplasticity important.
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Speaker 2: When you want to develop kind of behavior and you
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Speaker 2: have it and you skill you just name it, you
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Speaker 2: need to make that connection. You need to make that
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Speaker 2: get stronger. You make it bigger and bigger and bigger,
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Speaker 2: And that is the neuroplasticity you want to It's not
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Speaker 2: just about making new connections. You want to get rid
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Speaker 2: of bad behavior. You don't want to have that behavior,
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Speaker 2: right then those connections that made that behavior it's to
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Speaker 2: be withdrawn. You need to get rid of those bad connections.
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Speaker 2: So neuroplasticity is about making connections good ones. Would you
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Speaker 2: like them to change your life? Would you like them
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Speaker 2: to do to learn some skill? Just like playing piano.
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Speaker 2: And at the same time you need to get rid
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Speaker 2: of those bad ones. There's bad habits the thing I
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Speaker 2: call it bad. Maybe they are not bad. You just
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Speaker 2: don't want it, you don't need them.
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Speaker 3: Stuff that doesn't serve you well.
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Speaker 1: Right, and this is this goes right down too heavy
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Speaker 1: and learning from Donald the Scottish neuroscientists, right, Yes, nerve
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Speaker 1: cells that fire together wire together, and nerve cells that
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Speaker 1: together no longer wire together. And I think that's really
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Speaker 1: interesting for people to understand that that learning and new
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Speaker 1: skill learning a new habit is about repetition, repetition, repetition,
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Speaker 1: repetition and breaking those habits that have been a long
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Speaker 1: ingredient in your brain is about stopping that stimula so
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Speaker 1: that you're not.
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Speaker 3: Firing that circuit.
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Speaker 1: And then after a while, which can be quite a
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Speaker 1: while in some people, it then stops the fire and
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Speaker 1: you can bring But it's essentially what's happening in the
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Speaker 1: Brian that's driving it, isn't it exactly?
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Speaker 2: And you actually mentioned they're really really good and also important,
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Speaker 2: But it's not happening overnight. You cannot develop a habit.
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Speaker 2: You cannot learn skilled overnight or in a week or
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Speaker 2: even in a month. So, as I said, those connections
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Speaker 2: are actually things that you can see if you could.
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Speaker 2: They're small, but if you could, you could have fault them.
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Speaker 2: You know, you can feel them. These are made of
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Speaker 2: cell needs to make those proteins, and it takes time.
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Speaker 2: So you may need to work on it, as you said,
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Speaker 2: practice it consistency, and then maybe you can develop it
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Speaker 2: after like a few months, depends on what you want
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Speaker 2: to learn, or after even a couple of years. But
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Speaker 2: it is not happening overnight. And to know because most
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Speaker 2: of the people think about I want to change these things.
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Speaker 2: This is what I'm committed to do, and then they
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Speaker 2: go through the process and they start doing it for why,
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Speaker 2: and then when they don't see the results, they just
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Speaker 2: give up and stop practicing. But when we want to
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Speaker 2: we need to make that change be physical, just physical,
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Speaker 2: and then we need to practice. We need to stay
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Speaker 2: on the road, and then we need to make it happen.
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Speaker 2: Eventually when we see the results, yet that means that
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Speaker 2: that thing happened, it's still we need to work on
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Speaker 2: it because when you see the results, it's just the
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Speaker 2: beginning results and then they say, oh, that's good, and
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Speaker 2: then you go back, you know, eventually to what you
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Speaker 2: have done before. Again, those connections are not strong yet,
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Speaker 2: so they start getting weaker and weaker. You need to
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Speaker 2: make them stronger, stronger, stronger, stronger by more practicing and
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Speaker 2: more practice.
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Speaker 3: So let's not.
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Speaker 1: Some of the lifestyle components that can support neuroplasticity, right,
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Speaker 1: and and the and this obviously then is going to
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Speaker 1: play into neurodegenera diseases because generally the stuff that is
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Speaker 1: going to help support neuroplasticity is the stuff that will
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Speaker 1: help to prevent neural So I often say to people
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Speaker 1: that that exercise and good nutrition and provides the foundation
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Speaker 1: for neuroplasticity because you know that exercise releases bdn F, VEGF,
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Speaker 1: these growth factors that help to create those new connections,
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Speaker 1: but alsopply that we need. And then our nutrition gives
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Speaker 1: us the raw materials and for building that network, and
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Speaker 1: also neurotransmitters that that are really important in that whole
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Speaker 1: brain connectivity. So so, so what do we now know
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Speaker 1: that is important around brilliant health and in particularly for neuroplasticity.
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Speaker 2: Very good question, Paul. Actually, yes, there are factors that
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Speaker 2: we can you know, actually take in our hands and
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Speaker 2: help our brain to bring that neuroplasticity faster and more strong.
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Speaker 2: And there are something that we have to avoid to
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Speaker 2: just make that neuroplasticity going in the right way. Life asyle,
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Speaker 2: as you said, is a very important thing. No matter
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Speaker 2: what is skill you want to develop, no matter how
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Speaker 2: much you are committed to prevent yourself at could going
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Speaker 2: through another generative disorders, just dementia. It's not happening if
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Speaker 2: you don't work on the brain. And your brain is
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Speaker 2: actually two types of working. One of them is physical
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Speaker 2: and one of them is kind of non physical, which
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Speaker 2: eventually will go through physical And I talk you about it.
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Speaker 2: The first well exercise when you go for a workout,
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Speaker 2: like even ten minutes a day, twenty minutes a day,
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Speaker 2: half an hour a day is even better. And when
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Speaker 2: you do that, you actually increase the circulation in your body.
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Speaker 2: And when you increase the circulation in your body, you
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Speaker 2: actually increase the circulation in the brain. Not the amount
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Speaker 2: of the brain that blood that goes to the brain,
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Speaker 2: but just the faster and faster that's actually good for
23:23
Speaker 2: your brain because our brain is only one kilogram, but
23:27
Speaker 2: it is a very high happening. Yeah, the metabolic rate
23:31
Speaker 2: of the brain is massively massive. It uses loss of energy,
23:36
Speaker 2: it uses loss of nutrients during the day, and even
23:39
Speaker 2: when we are sleeping in time, it makes some waste
23:42
Speaker 2: products from metabolism something that it needs to get rid
23:47
Speaker 2: of them, right, and that's the job of the blood circulation.
23:50
Speaker 2: So the blood goes there give us cutrein and takes
23:53
Speaker 2: out all the bad metabolic waste that the brain needs
23:58
Speaker 2: to get rid of.
23:59
Speaker 1: Right.
24:01
Speaker 2: Actually, that exercise helps you to have better circulation to
24:04
Speaker 2: the brain and gets rid of those toxic I can
24:07
Speaker 2: say they are actually toxic proteins, which one of them
24:11
Speaker 2: is better amuloid. I'm sure that you know the name
24:13
Speaker 2: of it, and that's actually one of the causes of
24:17
Speaker 2: all or disease. So you get rid of those, there
24:21
Speaker 2: is no transfer them to start accumulating inside the brain.
24:25
Speaker 2: That's about physical activity during the day. And we come
24:28
Speaker 2: to the other type of activity, which eventually maybe it's
24:31
Speaker 2: not physical, but it eventually works for the brain as
24:35
Speaker 2: an actual physical activity, and that's mental activity. Thankay would
24:41
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you watching TV is not a mental activity.
24:45
Speaker 3: Growing that phone.
24:47
Speaker 1: They're passive, right, that's the difference. Right, You are a
24:53
Speaker 1: passive consumer when you're watching screens and scrolling, whereas when
24:57
Speaker 1: you're reading books or doing things, you're bringing very very
25:02
Speaker 1: active in stuff exactly.
25:04
Speaker 2: That's why some people they just falling asleep when they're
25:07
Speaker 2: watching TV, because the brain is not active. It's just
25:10
Speaker 2: like a thing that constantly going on. You can watching watching,
25:13
Speaker 2: watching you know so, yes exactly, and scrolling down the
25:17
Speaker 2: phone is not a brain activity at all, which unfortunately
25:21
Speaker 2: be a very bad habit during the day a couple
25:23
Speaker 2: of hours for each person. But by mental activity, I
25:26
Speaker 2: mean like reading a book you don't know. I'm sure
25:35
Speaker 2: every single of us at least have one passion for
25:39
Speaker 2: doing something like like uh, my brother in law, he
25:43
Speaker 2: he's keeping fishing big tanks and then from now and
25:46
Speaker 2: then he goes and make a new tanks and then
25:48
Speaker 2: he starts, you know, analyzing the thing, how he can
25:51
Speaker 2: measure the things. This is his mental activity. As I said,
25:55
Speaker 2: I like reading above. Somebody likes learning a new language.
25:59
Speaker 2: Something that physically activates your brain, and this is mental activity.
26:04
Speaker 2: But the consequent actually is increasing the blood circulation to
26:09
Speaker 2: the cells. Again, this is another way that your brain
26:12
Speaker 2: can get rid of those toxic proteins. Anything wasting, metabolism,
26:17
Speaker 2: metallic products, anything like that. So that's come to life
26:22
Speaker 2: style about eating. Of course, well I think most of
26:26
Speaker 2: us know that joint foods are not good. So my
26:29
Speaker 2: saturated fat, it's not good. Still going through it because
26:33
Speaker 2: it's yummy, full of fat, full of your name, with salt,
26:37
Speaker 2: it's very delicious. But it's again connections that we made
26:43
Speaker 2: in our brains, some of us since childhood when our
26:47
Speaker 2: parents used to take us to you know, I don't
26:49
Speaker 2: want to name that exact company, but like to fast
26:52
Speaker 2: food shop, right, so, and then they took us and
26:54
Speaker 2: then our brain got used to this, start making new connection.
26:58
Speaker 2: Young dad is delicious and craving for burger is getting
27:03
Speaker 2: bigger and bigger and bigger in your memory. Yummy taste.
27:05
Speaker 2: You cannot just get rid of it overnight, but it
27:09
Speaker 2: is difficult, but you can do it again. But training
27:12
Speaker 2: your brain one at a time to use something a
27:15
Speaker 2: little bit more healthy, a little bit less, a little
27:18
Speaker 2: bit more healthy, a little bit less. So this way
27:22
Speaker 2: you get rid of those bad connections and you start
27:25
Speaker 2: making new connections. And that might really might be really
27:30
Speaker 2: unbelievable to many of audiences that how could you actually
27:35
Speaker 2: train your brain not to like burger. That's not possible,
27:38
Speaker 2: but actually you can because are now getting so much
27:42
Speaker 2: stronger that actually you cannot taste some bad, fatty food anymore.
27:47
Speaker 2: You go for healthy food. And I'm not saying don't
27:49
Speaker 2: eat meat. I'm not saying don't eat chicken. I love meat.
27:52
Speaker 2: I eat chicken, so you know. But what I'm saying
27:55
Speaker 2: is moderation, healthy amount of it. So this is the
27:59
Speaker 2: thing that you're doesn't need. Definitely, those amount of sat
28:04
Speaker 2: rated fat a day, you cannot, there is no.
28:07
Speaker 3: Way, I think.
28:09
Speaker 1: I think the other thing I would add on to
28:11
Speaker 1: that is is sugar, and particularly sugar in combination with
28:18
Speaker 1: saturated fat. Actually the fat much worse, and even sugar
28:22
Speaker 1: on its own drives insulin resistance. And many researchers are
28:26
Speaker 1: calling Alzheimer's disease type three diabetes right because your brain
28:31
Speaker 1: tales become insulin resistant, they die unless you switch to
28:36
Speaker 1: a kidogenic diet if you're insulin resistant, and then benefits
28:42
Speaker 1: for some people for those neurons that have become insulin resistant.
28:46
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting everybody jumps onto that. But the other
28:50
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to talk about in terms of the
28:54
Speaker 1: what we know about exercise and particularly more vigorous stuff
28:59
Speaker 1: is which most people associate with lactic acid. We now
29:04
Speaker 1: know shuttles across the blood brain barrier and stimulates the
29:08
Speaker 1: release of BDNF, which I think is hugely, hugely important
29:14
Speaker 1: because that helps us with learning and memory, with neuroplasticity,
29:19
Speaker 1: with neurogenesis, all of those things. So there's just there's
29:23
Speaker 1: so much complexity around our lifestyle behaviors, isn't there. And
29:28
Speaker 1: then we have then then we get into the whole
29:31
Speaker 1: area of sleep and and and how sleep is really
29:35
Speaker 1: important for the brink. Can you just dig into you
29:37
Speaker 1: a little bit about what's happening in it while we're
29:41
Speaker 1: asleep and why why we see such strong associations with
29:48
Speaker 1: neurogenertic diseases with with a chronically per sleep.
29:52
Speaker 3: What's going on there?
29:53
Speaker 2: That's a really really important question, Paul. Yes, Actually, there's
29:58
Speaker 2: one very interesting fact. Live longer without water without food
30:05
Speaker 2: rather than without a sleep. So you can stay alive
30:09
Speaker 2: without food for days without water, day for days without
30:14
Speaker 2: food for a longer amount of time, but without a sleep.
30:17
Speaker 2: After only forty eight hours, you're you know, hallucinating things.
30:23
Speaker 2: Your brains started getting things mixed up, not the cognitive function,
30:28
Speaker 2: the function that your brain needs to do to realize
30:31
Speaker 2: what is happening around me. They're getting improved only after
30:34
Speaker 2: two days. That's very much unbelievable, and then it gets
30:38
Speaker 2: worse and worse. So so the importance of a sleep.
30:42
Speaker 2: When you sleep, you sleep, but your brain is actually
30:46
Speaker 2: a sauce doing its job, and the job is to
30:49
Speaker 2: get rid of those bad products that it produced during
30:54
Speaker 2: the time that you're awake. So when you're awake, your
30:57
Speaker 2: brain is pretty much active. It is one killing your organ,
30:59
Speaker 2: but it's izing everything else in your body, every other
31:03
Speaker 2: function in your body. Right, that's what when the person
31:06
Speaker 2: goes through brain death, almost all the functions of every
31:11
Speaker 2: other organ stock. So that is the importance of the brain.
31:14
Speaker 2: It works hardly, not a stock. And then when when
31:18
Speaker 2: you go to sleep, the brain getting rid of those
31:23
Speaker 2: bad byproducts of the metabolism which were accumulated inside the
31:28
Speaker 2: brain during the time that you're awake. You need that
31:31
Speaker 2: to sleep to reprogram your brain to get that area,
31:34
Speaker 2: that environment clean and nice and tidy. Again, if you
31:38
Speaker 2: have learned something during the day, sleep, your brain starts
31:43
Speaker 2: filing those information to keep the memory place in their
31:49
Speaker 2: place and location that they should be. That's why when
31:52
Speaker 2: you wake up in the morning, if you had good
31:54
Speaker 2: enough of sleep, you feel refreshed, but when you want
31:57
Speaker 2: to go to sleep, you feel tired. So it's important
32:02
Speaker 2: people who are not getting enough a sleep or enough
32:05
Speaker 2: quality you know, time of sleep. The brain cannot get
32:10
Speaker 2: rid of those materials, those bad substances staying brain at
32:15
Speaker 2: different levels, and then after a while you have your
32:19
Speaker 2: brain that the amount of them. One of them is
32:23
Speaker 2: actually is that better amyloid, which is as I said,
32:26
Speaker 2: the protein is a byproduct toxic protein which all of
32:30
Speaker 2: us are making. But luckily we are able to get
32:33
Speaker 2: rid of them and then wash them out and then
32:36
Speaker 2: get rid of them. But if they say inside the brain,
32:39
Speaker 2: they become insoluble proteins very much hard. You cannot touch them.
32:46
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is they cannot be dissolved in
32:49
Speaker 2: anything else. That's why they cannot go through the blood circulation,
32:52
Speaker 2: and they astain the brain. And after they astain the brain,
32:55
Speaker 2: they start killing the brain cells one by one, mostly.
32:59
Speaker 1: Starting yes, are you talking about TAUL proteins here?
33:03
Speaker 2: Yes, top protein is the another protein. You're right, pole,
33:06
Speaker 2: So beta amyloid is the protein which stays mostly outside
33:11
Speaker 2: the brains, so the brains get rid of the brain cells,
33:14
Speaker 2: they get rid of them, and then they secret them
33:17
Speaker 2: outside of them. So the protein starts out right and
33:21
Speaker 2: then eventually if we have goodness sleep, if the circulation
33:25
Speaker 2: is fine, they manage to go through the blood circulation
33:28
Speaker 2: and they leave the brain and then we get rid
33:30
Speaker 2: of them. There are some other proteins, as you said, Paul,
33:33
Speaker 2: which call top proteins, and they are inside the brain cells,
33:37
Speaker 2: so mostly better amulate outside side. Also, that's a very
33:42
Speaker 2: important protein in healthy situations. Tow protein acts kind of
33:46
Speaker 2: like a carrier inside the cells and carry the you know,
33:50
Speaker 2: products inside the cell, make the cell happy and you
33:53
Speaker 2: know everything is going to its location and its destination.
33:56
Speaker 2: But in people with alzhemer disease, unfortunately this so also
34:02
Speaker 2: gets to turn to some insoluble, very harsh pigments kind
34:06
Speaker 2: of I can say, and that it starts killing the
34:09
Speaker 2: self from inside. So in Alzheimer's disease, as far as
34:13
Speaker 2: the signs know by so far, there are other elements,
34:16
Speaker 2: but these proteins are very toxic and more you get
34:19
Speaker 2: enough they send good circulation to the brain you have
34:23
Speaker 2: better chance to get rid of those proteins. You don't
34:26
Speaker 2: get good enough asleep. The protein stays in all the proteins,
34:30
Speaker 2: saying the brain, and then it starts pecumulating in the brain.
34:33
Speaker 2: And then after why the brain has the better chance,
34:36
Speaker 2: unfortunately to dealop those Alzheimer generative disorders. So that's why
34:44
Speaker 2: it's important to have it good. The sleep. They used
34:46
Speaker 2: to say seven to eight hours enough for an adult.
34:50
Speaker 2: Now they actually change it to eight to nine hours.
34:55
Speaker 2: And then, yes, this is what it say is we
34:57
Speaker 2: need to get it.
34:59
Speaker 1: We need a lot of as you say, these are
35:02
Speaker 1: proteins that are important in metabolism. But it's it's like anything.
35:06
Speaker 1: It's goldilocks in the briand isn't It can't be too little,
35:09
Speaker 1: can be too much.
35:10
Speaker 2: It's got to be just right.
35:12
Speaker 1: So let's let's have a little switch and rather than
35:17
Speaker 1: hardcore neuroscience, let's talk about mindset. And you write about
35:22
Speaker 1: this in your book and the importance of mindset in
35:25
Speaker 1: shaping your life. So just talk to our listeners a
35:29
Speaker 1: bite and mindset, how that ships are behaviors and dotcoms,
35:34
Speaker 1: and how we can actually improve our mindset.
35:39
Speaker 2: Of course, where are we talking about mindset, it's always
35:44
Speaker 2: nice to I just think about one example. Imagine that
35:48
Speaker 2: you want to use your computer to write a book, statement, something, anything,
35:55
Speaker 2: and you use one particular program. I use a word
35:59
Speaker 2: for examp, and if you want to calculate something in table,
36:03
Speaker 2: use Excel for example. So there are different programs that
36:06
Speaker 2: we use to run our computer for the purpose that
36:10
Speaker 2: we want, and those programs are actually designed to do
36:14
Speaker 2: that particular job. Right mindset is doing the same thing
36:19
Speaker 2: for your You have a mindset, you use that mindset
36:24
Speaker 2: to do a particular job. I'll give you an example.
36:27
Speaker 2: My mindset is I'm a woman, and when I get aged,
36:33
Speaker 2: I'm not very much wanted around the community anymore, because
36:37
Speaker 2: you know, it's better to beyond and be beautiful, right,
36:42
Speaker 2: which I know that this is the mindset. Is not
36:44
Speaker 2: a right mindset, but this is the drowing mindset which
36:48
Speaker 2: can make lots of money for the industries. When you
36:51
Speaker 2: go through the TV and ads, the scream that exactly.
36:57
Speaker 2: And it's actually recently it's come to men to to
37:01
Speaker 2: be you know, everybody should be like this, no ring, no,
37:05
Speaker 2: you know that's it. So this is my mindset, and
37:07
Speaker 2: actually it's getting stronger and stronger through messages media. You
37:12
Speaker 2: just name it right, and then this is my mindset.
37:15
Speaker 2: How does my brain use this mindset to define my behavior?
37:21
Speaker 2: Mindset is now the program, This is the war program.
37:24
Speaker 2: The job of work program is writing something for you.
37:28
Speaker 2: The job is mindset is to define everything around you
37:33
Speaker 2: based on the thing that you learned and now you
37:35
Speaker 2: think about. Now, my mindset is telling me it's bad
37:39
Speaker 2: to have. Oh, go to the show, spend one thousand
37:43
Speaker 2: dollars a month on you know, beauty products. You know, really, no,
37:47
Speaker 2: that's it. Go to the surgery call you know, sense
37:50
Speaker 2: surgery centuries and do this century surgery. That is that
37:54
Speaker 2: because you are not very much wanted when you're all right?
37:57
Speaker 2: The mindset defines my behavior, viti. This is just one example.
38:03
Speaker 2: There are lots of examples. Now turn back to the
38:06
Speaker 2: good mindset, like I have a mindset, because mindset could
38:09
Speaker 2: be good and bad again, good and bad maybe not
38:12
Speaker 2: the right term could be could work exactly. That's a
38:18
Speaker 2: very nice termple, Thank you for helping me. Yes. So
38:22
Speaker 2: the other mindset is, oh, man, now, the real man
38:27
Speaker 2: never cries if you cry. We said that to the
38:31
Speaker 2: boys when they fold during football game. Your name is
38:35
Speaker 2: don't cry like that means that, Yeah, that means that
38:39
Speaker 2: if you cry, you're not right. And then the boy
38:42
Speaker 2: grows up with that mindset, not crying. In case of
38:46
Speaker 2: the adulthood, he's under so much pressure at work, different things,
38:50
Speaker 2: he really crept cry because that's actually the the release
38:55
Speaker 2: point of our body to get rid of so much stress.
38:58
Speaker 2: But the mindset, now, no crying, just keep everything inside
39:04
Speaker 2: yourself and then you will have heart attack in the
39:06
Speaker 2: depx ten years. Right. So this is a mindset, right,
39:10
Speaker 2: So this is a fixed mindset that we have and
39:14
Speaker 2: many of us, like I can tell you from like
39:16
Speaker 2: seven billion of people around the world, almost seven still
39:21
Speaker 2: growing up with a fixed mindset. You cannot change anything.
39:24
Speaker 2: If you want to change it, you are not a
39:26
Speaker 2: real man because you're crying. That's just unacceptable. Right. But
39:31
Speaker 2: there is another mindset, just growth mindset, and it tells
39:34
Speaker 2: you that is not a fact, and you can't change it.
39:37
Speaker 2: You need to cry. You cry because a brain to
39:41
Speaker 2: get rid of the stress, to actually increase the amount
39:46
Speaker 2: of good subumstance in your brain that comes with crying.
39:51
Speaker 2: It releases actually some endoor things, some types of good
39:55
Speaker 2: ocuoids inside the brain. It feels your relaxed. It's just
39:58
Speaker 2: like I've just left a bra right. This is this
40:02
Speaker 2: so mindset whatever you have, as you said, the one
40:06
Speaker 2: that is good helping us, the one that really, you know,
40:10
Speaker 2: don't help us. They are defining our behavior, our act.
40:15
Speaker 2: Whatever we do is based on what we have in
40:18
Speaker 2: our brain. The good news is that mindset you can
40:23
Speaker 2: actually switch from that mindset that you have been trained
40:27
Speaker 2: with like for forty years, and now you reached that
40:31
Speaker 2: turning point that see that mindset is not working for
40:35
Speaker 2: me anymore. I really want to change it to something
40:38
Speaker 2: that works for me, that makes me happy at the
40:41
Speaker 2: end of the day. Let's face it, happiness is what
40:43
Speaker 2: we all seeking, right, I want to be happy. Maybe
40:47
Speaker 2: this time to change that mindset so you are able
40:50
Speaker 2: to change that fixed one to a growth mindset through neuroplasticity.
40:55
Speaker 2: And that is the place that that mindset actually bring
41:01
Speaker 2: to your brain to ask for help. How can you
41:05
Speaker 2: help me to change myself to something else? And the
41:08
Speaker 2: brain says, all right, I'm here, I was just waiting
41:10
Speaker 2: for you. Let's do it for roplastysday. Let's get rid
41:15
Speaker 2: of those connections which tell you do not cry. Connection
41:21
Speaker 2: that tell you, actually, it's okay sometimes to cry. There's
41:25
Speaker 2: nothing wrong about it. It's okay to have some rink holes.
41:28
Speaker 2: Because you lived long in this planet. That's a good thing.
41:32
Speaker 2: So because of that, now you have some renhils and
41:35
Speaker 2: there is nothing wrong with that. Okay, So take care
41:37
Speaker 2: of yourself, be healthy. But there's nothing wrong with that.
41:41
Speaker 3: Check money.
41:42
Speaker 2: You know a stressful situation that, oh my god, there
41:45
Speaker 2: is a rink call and the actress come to the
41:48
Speaker 2: am said, oh there was a ring, it was not here.
41:50
Speaker 2: I know what you are talking about. Let's get rid
41:53
Speaker 2: of it. Let's spend lots of money. What are you doing?
41:56
Speaker 2: Don't do that, just think of it. This is a
41:59
Speaker 2: part of life. It's aging. And now I'm not twenty,
42:03
Speaker 2: I'm forty. Well, there's nothing wrong with forty because I
42:06
Speaker 2: have more achievements. I have a house, which I didn't
42:09
Speaker 2: have when I was twenty. I can drive, which I
42:11
Speaker 2: couldn't when I was seven. I'm more mature, I have
42:15
Speaker 2: more conversation, I can enjoy life better. And that is
42:18
Speaker 2: because I'm forty. I'm fifty. But really, right, neuroplasticity helps you.
42:24
Speaker 2: It tells you all right, you want me to change,
42:26
Speaker 2: it's short practicing, just a short keep your eyes open
42:32
Speaker 2: and that behavior and that feeling that comes to you.
42:35
Speaker 2: How do I know it's time for neuroplasticity. It's time
42:39
Speaker 2: for neuroplastics. I feel I'm not happy anymore, and I'm
42:43
Speaker 2: not happy anymore. That means time.
42:45
Speaker 1: That's that's the stimulus for change, right, And I like
42:49
Speaker 1: the I like your analogy that that's the kind of
42:53
Speaker 1: the brain is the hardware, and mindset is the software
42:56
Speaker 1: that tells the hardware what to do. So with that
43:01
Speaker 1: little tips can you give people who are struggling with say,
43:06
Speaker 1: negative thought patterns, negative mindset? What tips can I have
43:09
Speaker 1: for cultivating a more positive mindset?
43:13
Speaker 2: All right? If I want to give you tips, maybe
43:16
Speaker 2: I go through two or three most important ones, because
43:19
Speaker 2: I'm just considered the first thing when you got to
43:24
Speaker 2: that turning point of course, which we get it more
43:27
Speaker 2: or less all of us. The first thing is awareness.
43:30
Speaker 2: Neuroplasticity start with awareness. And by awareness what I mean,
43:35
Speaker 2: I mean observing your thoughts when something comes to your
43:41
Speaker 2: and you know that we talk a lot, self talk
43:44
Speaker 2: a lot, most of them are most of them are negative.
43:48
Speaker 2: You tell me, maybe five percent of them are positive,
43:51
Speaker 2: ninety five are negative. When a thought comes to your mind,
43:56
Speaker 2: observe it. It's just like surfing through the thoughts. So
43:59
Speaker 2: when it pause for a minute before acting, just pause
44:04
Speaker 2: and observe it. That's a thought. So this thought definitely
44:08
Speaker 2: gives you a feeling either good or bad, either happiness
44:11
Speaker 2: or sadness, which ninety five percent is sadness. It is,
44:14
Speaker 2: you know, self negative self thought. Right, observe the thought.
44:21
Speaker 2: Observe the thought, and watch if it is giving you
44:24
Speaker 2: good or bad. If it is giving you good, just
44:27
Speaker 2: live it for now. If if it is giving you bad, feeling,
44:30
Speaker 2: now go back one step. Because every feeling good or
44:37
Speaker 2: bad coming from a thought, that bad feeling is com right,
44:42
Speaker 2: So then search for that thought. Play a game fact
44:45
Speaker 2: or fiction. When that is the thought that you're observing,
44:49
Speaker 2: that's the thought. I feel bad because I think today
44:53
Speaker 2: at work, when I start going to start just going
44:56
Speaker 2: to my office, my boss is being so set with
45:01
Speaker 2: me because of that thought. I don't know if it
45:04
Speaker 2: is fact or fiction. Because of that thought, I feel
45:06
Speaker 2: sad today, right, So observe your feeling, observe your thought,
45:10
Speaker 2: and then play fact or fiction. Is it a fact
45:14
Speaker 2: or is it your assumption? So ninety five, I'm telling
45:18
Speaker 2: you if it is nine ninety nine percent of the
45:22
Speaker 2: things that we thought, and they make us sad, they
45:25
Speaker 2: are never going to happen. They do not exist in reality.
45:30
Speaker 2: These are our assumptions. I think, what if if I
45:34
Speaker 2: lose my car tomorrow? But if if I lose my
45:36
Speaker 2: job tomorrow, But if I lose my relationship tomorrow? What
45:41
Speaker 2: or or tomorrow? There are possibilities, but ninety five of
45:44
Speaker 2: them never happens to you. These are fiction, They are
45:47
Speaker 2: your assumption. If they are your assumption, you have to
45:51
Speaker 2: stop some assuming the things. So again, observe when you think,
45:58
Speaker 2: when you see that thought, separate those things. Most of
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Speaker 2: them are fictions and your assumptions. And when they are
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Speaker 2: your assumptions, just try do not fight them. Do not
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Speaker 2: fight your thoughts. This is the job of your brain.
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Speaker 2: The thoughts come to your brain.
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Speaker 3: This is the job that do not generating machine.
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Speaker 2: Right exactly, if you if you keep coming back to
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Speaker 2: you observe them exactly. You have to observe them, and
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Speaker 2: you have to separate the ones that are happening, which
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Speaker 2: are the ones that are not happening. If I made
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Speaker 2: a mistake a job at my job, and I know
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Speaker 2: that this is the cause of my bad feeling. Yes,
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Speaker 2: that's that five percent that I have to fix it.
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Speaker 2: But nine you know her husband or kid, whatever, So
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Speaker 2: that's the reason that he doesn't. It doesn't have anything
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Speaker 2: to do with me. So why do I assume like
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Speaker 2: that this is happening just because of me? Right? Assumption
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Speaker 2: is not working for you, and it is very hard.
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's very hard to start assuming the things.
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Speaker 2: But that is a bad neuroplast Connections are strong there.
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Speaker 2: You have to work on them, and you have to
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Speaker 2: make them weaker and weaker and weaker and weaker, and
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Speaker 2: that makes actually more room for the facts. So those
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Speaker 2: connections which are not about assumptions, you are growing more
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Speaker 2: and more and more you feel relief from that much
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Speaker 2: of a stress. You know, when you want to go
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Speaker 2: you you keep repeating the question with yourself. I say this,
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Speaker 2: when he says this. Before coming to this, it comes
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Speaker 2: to me that I have to practice this, and I say,
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Speaker 2: why do I need to practice? I don't need to practice.
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Speaker 2: Ninety five persons after things that I think going to happen.
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Speaker 2: Pau even don't want to ask them from me. So
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Speaker 2: I just go with the feelings, start talking the way
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Speaker 2: that it goes.
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Speaker 1: And it's nice.
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Speaker 2: I'm beauty, you're happy, I'm happy, no stress whatsoever. I'm
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Speaker 2: all right.
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Speaker 3: So that's it.
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Speaker 2: Awareness, separate facts and fiction, and then start working on
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Speaker 2: the ones that are not happening, make them weaker, feel quiet.
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Speaker 2: And one good thing that I tell you is if
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Speaker 2: you think something is not happening or hasn't happened, or
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Speaker 2: something that you can do, bring it yet. At the end,
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Speaker 2: like if you think that's not happening, or if you
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Speaker 2: think that I cannot do it, bring it yet. I
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Speaker 2: cannot do it yet. Because when you say I cannot
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Speaker 2: do it, just want it or not just body, I
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Speaker 2: cannot do it. What's gonna happen? And you say yes
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Speaker 2: to yourself, I cannot do it yet, doesn't mean that
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Speaker 2: I cannot do it now tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: That's Carol dwac growth mindset. The most powerful word in
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Speaker 1: the English language is.
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Speaker 3: Yet, I'm not yet. Very cold