Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / The Words To Look Out For To Avoid Women Who Will Stop Liking Sex
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- 0:05Hi everybody and welcome to the Doctor Psych Mom Show.
- 0:08Today we're going to talk about the words to look out for to
- 0:12avoid women who will stop liking sex.
- 0:14And I mean some. I mean you.
- 0:18Possibly there are some men that use these words as well.
- 0:21If so, definitely they do not are not going to like sex.
- 0:25So before we get to that, let's just do our usual subscription
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- 0:41episodes. The most recent one was why your
- 0:44spouse keeps sending you memes and videos that you do not care
- 0:47about and why and how to think about this differently for the
- 0:52sake of your relationship. Okay.
- 0:54So what are the words to look out for?
- 0:57I've already talked about in a different podcast the words to
- 1:00look out for so that you don't marry somebody anxious because
- 1:03these are the 2, by the way, that guys don't like.
- 1:06They don't like no sex or low libido or, you know, hate sex,
- 1:11sex averse. And they don't like anxious and
- 1:13constricted people that don't want your child to go outside or
- 1:16to participate in activities because they might get ill or
- 1:19they might get sick, or their feelings might get hurt, or
- 1:22their bodies might get hurt or something might happen.
- 1:24So these are the two main things that upset men, in addition, of
- 1:27course, to anger and yelling. So I mean men, you know that
- 1:33that makes sense, right? Women don't like those things
- 1:36either. Women do not like men who yell.
- 1:38I have a lot of podcasts about that.
- 1:40They do not like men who are anxious, which manifests as
- 1:43rigidity more than active fear in men.
- 1:46And although it is fear based and women with normal libidos
- 1:50don't like low libido men, So we, before we say anything is
- 1:53wrong about these preferences in men, they are completely normal.
- 1:57And women have them as well. All right, So a lot of times
- 2:00guys tell me, oh, yeah, sex used to be good in the honeymoon
- 2:02phase. And I'm like, Oh yeah, tell me
- 2:05about it. Well, turns out they had, you
- 2:08know, missionary style sex. The woman can have an orgasm
- 2:12only in like a couple ways. One way, usually.
- 2:17Sometimes that way doesn't even involve the man.
- 2:18It just involves A vibrator. And basically they the sex life
- 2:23was pretty constricted, you know, and the guy didn't even
- 2:25realize it. But often also there are other,
- 2:31you know, red flags besides that it was boring and constricted
- 2:34and not a lot of variety and not a lot of exploration.
- 2:37But the woman was grossed out a lot.
- 2:39She was grossed out by many things and not only in bed,
- 2:44certainly she was grossed out by stuff.
- 2:45In bed there's women that are grossed out by any fluid.
- 2:48They're grossed out by pre cum, they're grossed out by saliva.
- 2:50They're grossed out by cum itself.
- 2:52They're grossed out by sweat. They're grossed out by anything.
- 2:55I mean, you know, or literally any smell.
- 2:58The guy has to basically, you know, there was a scene I was
- 3:01watching house with my kids, remember house?
- 3:05And there was this scene where the guy, they thought he had an
- 3:09immune disorder so he couldn't be around any germs.
- 3:13So they had to like scrub them off really good in a shower and
- 3:16then like put them in like the safe room.
- 3:19That's that's like how women with a who are very squeamish
- 3:23want the guy to come to bed at night.
- 3:26That's what I thought, like every single germ removed by a
- 3:29team of experts. But anywho, so you know the
- 3:34squeamishness is a super big red flag that when her honeymoon
- 3:39stage, hormones and adrenaline and dopamine have receded and
- 3:44she's no longer drunk on new love and thereby more
- 3:48uninhibited, she will be disgusted.
- 3:52And how do women express disgust?
- 3:55And I'll tell you something else about these words too, But how
- 3:58do women express disgust? They say things like yucky,
- 4:01gross, icky, EW, things like that.
- 4:07If she says stuff like that a lot, your sex life's gonna go to
- 4:10shit, you know? And so this is something to
- 4:12understand. What else, though, do these
- 4:16words point to? They point to a childishness,
- 4:22right? So a woman who perceives herself
- 4:27internally as kind of a little girl and grossed out by grown up
- 4:34yucky stuff, you know, this is not going to be your ideal
- 4:38sexual partner unless you have a fetish for this.
- 4:40And if you do have a fetish for it, she's going to find the
- 4:43fetish disgusting too. So it's not ever even going to
- 4:46become one of those fun fetishes.
- 4:47So women that are easily grossed out and say you gross, yucky a
- 4:53lot about all sorts of things are the sexual equivalent of the
- 4:58woman who says I'm just not comfortable with that, another
- 5:02great hit in the sexual arena. But a woman that says I'm not
- 5:05comfortable, I'm not comfortable.
- 5:06I'm not comfortable. I just said this in my podcast
- 5:09about women who won't give out their numbers on dating apps.
- 5:11I'm not comfortable with that. I'm not comfortable with that.
- 5:14No, I'm not saying so. Like, there's a So let's say a
- 5:16guy, you're married to a guy and he wants to bring in 1/3 and
- 5:20you're like, I'm not comfortable with that bullshit.
- 5:23I mean, you know, good, like, right, Like you're allowed to
- 5:25have preferences, especially in the tails.
- 5:29I talk all the time about the normal distribution, right?
- 5:31Because I had to study statistics.
- 5:33But even before that, I learned about the normal distribution as
- 5:36a little girl. You know, I mean, this is how I
- 5:40guess you make a psychologist, but my father taught me about
- 5:44the normal distribution when I was like four or five years old.
- 5:46So the point is that it's always in my mind.
- 5:49So if your thing that you're not comfortable with is out in the
- 5:52tail of the normal distribution, all right, fine, Good.
- 5:56Right. You have a leg to stand on.
- 5:57If it's in the plus -1 standard deviation, well then that's not
- 6:02as good anymore. You got to interrogate why you
- 6:05have like 7 million preferences and boundaries.
- 6:07It's like the people who can't decide where to go to dinner
- 6:10isn't. You're eating food.
- 6:11Who cares when you can't find something unless there is a
- 6:14massive food allergy. I am a vegan.
- 6:16I can find something anywhere. I'm an ethical vegan so I don't
- 6:19want to eat an animal. I can still go to any
- 6:21restaurant. People are like, oh you're a
- 6:24vegan, where should we go? Look, we'll go anywhere.
- 6:27And you know what if I had to get rice and you know,
- 6:30vegetables, big shit, you know, who cares?
- 6:33It's the experience. It's the experience of going out
- 6:35to eat. So the the point is, is when
- 6:37people have too many preferences and boundaries.
- 6:39It speaks to rigidity, It speaks to anxiety.
- 6:41But specifically when this is coupled with this EU gross like
- 6:46grossed out little girl thing, then it's going to turn into
- 6:50like when you show your penis, she's going to react like a
- 6:53child being shown a bug, you know, or like a little girl, a
- 6:56little girl in a party dress being shown a bug, you gross.
- 7:00You know, whatever you think of as like a grossed out little
- 7:03girl. And you don't need that, You
- 7:04know, you don't need that in your life.
- 7:06So if your wife already acts like that, well then you should
- 7:10be in couples therapy, right? Because these women make friends
- 7:14with other ones of these women. So just like I talked about in
- 7:17my podcast, why do all your friends, your wife's friends,
- 7:21have low sex marriages? Like goes to, like, that's
- 7:25called social homophily. And so women.
- 7:29And it's not like they all make friends with each other because
- 7:32one of them goes into a group at a mom's group and says, hey, who
- 7:35else is grossed out by Dick. No, that's not what happens.
- 7:38What happens is that there's little back signals that all
- 7:42sorts of, you know, that indicate all sorts of
- 7:45personality types. And so honestly, the ones that
- 7:49say you or gross or I'm not comfortable with that, they go
- 7:54together. They're like saying, oh, we're
- 7:56in the it's gross club, but they're saying it without saying
- 7:59it. And then they end up together
- 8:01and then they end up in a very kind of more anxious,
- 8:03constricted, easily grossed out group.
- 8:06And that becomes the echo chamber.
- 8:08And then they're all grossed out by penises, you know, and that's
- 8:10like, you know, that's that's representative of their general
- 8:17frame in life. So these are the women that send
- 8:19frantic group texts about all the things that they're anxious
- 8:21about, you know, in terms of the child going to school and not
- 8:25going to school and the friend drama and this and that, and
- 8:28somebody's sick. And when are we going to get the
- 8:30germs and all of this stuff? So, like, goes to, like, So what
- 8:33I'm telling you is that if your wife is already like this, get
- 8:36into couples therapy because she doesn't even know.
- 8:39There's a different way to think about it.
- 8:41Because sometimes we've been in couples therapy and women will
- 8:43literally say to me, they'll be like, yeah, but all women are
- 8:46grossed out by oral sex. And I'll be like, no, that's not
- 8:51true at all, you know? And why do you think that and
- 8:55this and that and whatever. And we explore it and then there
- 8:59in a later session, it'll be like, well, until recently I
- 9:02thought that everybody was, you know, like me.
- 9:04So I didn't, Why should I change?
- 9:06She's asking me just not to be like a regular person.
- 9:09And until recently, I didn't realize there was another way to
- 9:12be. So your wife's friends, if she's
- 9:15an easily grossed out woman, are probably the same echo Chamber
- 9:18of easily grossed out people and that will, you know, make her
- 9:22that will amplify her pre-existing tendencies in this
- 9:25direction. So why do men ignore this?
- 9:30Well two reasons. First of all, in the honeymoon
- 9:32stage it's not as pronounced. And second of all they have no
- 9:35fucking idea because most men get married when they're young
- 9:39and they have relatively little experience.
- 9:41On average men have like I think 6 partners of women have four on
- 9:45average six partners. You got like two of those are
- 9:48complete drunken one night stand that you can even can't even
- 9:50barely remember one of them you started hooking up with when you
- 9:54were like literally 16 years old, you know, or something like
- 9:57that. And then maybe your college
- 9:59girlfriends or something, or some girl on vacation, Nobody
- 10:02was giving you profound feedback on anything you feel.
- 10:05Most men feel that they wish they had more experience, you
- 10:08know? And a lot of women feel that way
- 10:10as well. And so they don't know.
- 10:12So from their perspective, if it's a pretty girl and she's
- 10:16just kind of grossed out by stuff, well, you can't get
- 10:19everything in life, you know? And they don't know and they
- 10:22don't think about the honeymoon stage.
- 10:24You should see on my page there's guys in their 20s that
- 10:27just still think this is a fiction.
- 10:29There's guys in their 40s and 50s who still seem to think that
- 10:32biology and the novelty effect are are fictional, you know, and
- 10:36that this is just something that women are inventing.
- 10:39You know, it's it's crazy. And so the point being that
- 10:44nobody can predict the future. And so that's what I'm trying to
- 10:47help you with here. So definitely not that you can
- 10:50predict the future, but at least you could see certain variables
- 10:54that concord with later dissatisfaction in certain
- 10:57arenas. Now, a man who thinks anything
- 11:00about your body is grows run away there.
- 11:04There are very few of them, so you never have to be with a man
- 11:08who thinks anything about your body is disgusting.
- 11:10A man who doesn't like to go down on you.
- 11:12I talk about this all the time. So there's probably like, I
- 11:15don't know, 3040% of women don't like to go down on men, like, at
- 11:20all, you know, even in the honeymoon stage, let's say.
- 11:23And basically like 5% of men will never go down on a woman in
- 11:28the honeymoon stage or 10% or something.
- 11:31So then don't end up with one of them, right?
- 11:33Statistically, you could find another one.
- 11:36I mean, I anybody who's my client, anybody who listens to
- 11:39me, anybody who's my friends, who I care about, I would advise
- 11:43neither gender, right, should should end up with somebody who
- 11:47will not give oral sex in the honeymoon stages.
- 11:49That is a tremendous risk factor for later not wanting sex at
- 11:53all, you know. And also if you like it, why
- 11:56shouldn't you be with somebody who does it?
- 11:57It's a fairly normal ask. Again, it's it's within, it's
- 12:00right in the hump of the normal distribution.
- 12:03You're not asking for a dungeon like you're asking for something
- 12:07relatively normal, particularly in early stages.
- 12:10And of course I have a podcast, lots of podcasts on oral sex,
- 12:13most recently Why blowjobs fall off in later marriage.
- 12:16But either way, a man that doesn't like to go down on a
- 12:19woman or who is grossed out by any aspect you know of bodies or
- 12:26or anything. So testosterone is protective
- 12:30against that. Ask any woman who's ever tried
- 12:32testosterone. You know, which is prescribed
- 12:36for many things you know, including depression for by
- 12:39functional medicine doctors. And if you try testosterone as a
- 12:45woman, believe me, you'll see why Men don't give a shit about
- 12:47anything. They have No Fear and they have
- 12:49a high sex drive. They don't give a shit.
- 12:50They're like honey badger compared to women.
- 12:53So if a man with that testosterone is still grossed
- 12:57out by something about a body despite the testosterone makes
- 13:00you feel like immortal and like everything is sexy and like you
- 13:04know they could sleep with anybody, then there's a real
- 13:08problem. You know something some real
- 13:11anti sex philosophies or anti woman philosophies or real shame
- 13:17about bodies or phobia or OCD. Something that you don't need to
- 13:21get involved with. So anyway, take that for what
- 13:23it's worth. So what did you learn?
- 13:26It's icky, it's gross, it's yucky.
- 13:28And and what if you're a woman listening?
- 13:30Have a lot of female listeners about half and you're like, Oh
- 13:35my God, I say that stuff. Well, here's a challenge.
- 13:37Why don't you try to stop saying it right?
- 13:40It's judgmental and it's immature.
- 13:43So, you know, I mean that's that's the truth, right?
- 13:45Obviously. So everybody would know that,
- 13:48like that's factual. It is literally judgmental and
- 13:51immature. It's an immature way to say it
- 13:53and it's judgmental. So what if you tried not to?
- 13:56Plus, it trains your kids to be easily disgusted and to be
- 14:00easily, you know, like it's the saying don't yuck my Yum.
- 14:04So kids who grow up here and yucky and icky and gross,
- 14:07they'll be the ones who go to dinner with somebody elses
- 14:09family and they're served. The appetizers are passed around
- 14:12and they're like you. No, gross.
- 14:15Gross, man. Doesn't that make your stomach
- 14:18twist to think of your kid being so rude?
- 14:20Right. I mean, no, you don't want that
- 14:22to be your kid. You want your kid to try things.
- 14:24You want your kid to look at the world as as an adventure and a
- 14:28place where they could potentially learn something new
- 14:30that they like. Or at least would not feel a
- 14:33visceral disgust reaction, which they have been primed to express
- 14:37by hearing similar expressions in their family of origin.
- 14:41So, you know, so stop saying yucky.
- 14:43Is this the take away? If you are the one who says
- 14:46yucky, and if you're the guy who married the woman who says
- 14:49yucky, then understand that she was always saying yucky.
- 14:52You were too inexperienced to understand what this port
- 14:54tended. And if you got into couples
- 14:57counseling, maybe she could learn that everything isn't so
- 14:59yucky. And yucky goes into close
- 15:01mindedness and it goes into sensory issues, quote UN quote,
- 15:06which believe me, many people have sensory issues, but I have
- 15:08less empathy when the sensory issues are only about touching
- 15:12the guy. So they cuddle with the dog,
- 15:14they cuddle with the kids, they go to fucking spin aerobics, you
- 15:17know, spin class, they they do everything involving their body.
- 15:21And then of course, sensory issues mean they can't touch
- 15:23them. Now, if you're sitting there in
- 15:24like a room by yourself shaking of fear that anybody touches
- 15:28you, that sucks, you know, And then you got some severe sensory
- 15:32issues that you still could work on because human beings can
- 15:35learn and grow and practice and all sorts of things.
- 15:39But, you know, the sensory issues that I tend to hear about
- 15:42in couples counselling tend to be more like, I just don't want
- 15:46to have sex, You know, I I just can't kiss.
- 15:49I kiss the kids like I do. I hug the kids.
- 15:51I do all these kind of things. Everybody else looks at me, is
- 15:56totally normal, but then sensory issues stop me from having sex.
- 15:59Now that's not the whole story. So I mean no way I even have a
- 16:02podcast on that chronic. If chronic pain or depression
- 16:05affects your wife in only one area called having sex with you.
- 16:09So you could go back and listen to that one.
- 16:11But all right, I hope you guys found this to be interesting and
- 16:15I will talk to y'all soon. Have a great day guys.
- 16:17Bye, bye.