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Bonus Episode: Arcadian · Cage Match: A Roundabout Way of Meeting Nicolas Cage

• 0:00
  Oh, God. Oh, my God.
• 0:16
  So this is what this way you get for a bonus episode or bonus episode.
• 0:20
  Yeah. You get the dog's mouth noises.
• 0:22
  Perfect. Just what we wanted.
• 0:24
  We're going to spoil this movie because it's kind of impossible
• 0:27
  to talk about it without spoiling it.
• 0:29
  There's also nothing to spoil.
• 0:31
  No, that seems fair. That's fine.
• 0:33
  I'm totally cool with it.
• 0:34
  So listen up, people.
• 0:35
  We're going to talk about Arcadian and we're going to spoil it.
• 0:38
  First spoiler.
• 0:39
  No idea why it's called Arcadian.
• 0:42
  Yeah. Can't figure that part out.
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  Second spoiler. Chompy monsters.
• 0:46
  Yeah, those are real cool.
• 0:47
  Um, that is kind of a spoiler, because that's just a fun scene
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  to like, like, what the fuck is that?
• 0:53
  Oh, it chomps. All right.
• 0:54
  That was weird. Hey, they're all doing it. Cool.
• 0:56
  Would you like to take a guess at a major inspiration
• 1:00
  for the character design for the monster?
• 1:03
  Yeah, we're just goofy movie.
• 1:05
  Specifically, the the nightmare scene where Max turns into his dad.
• 1:11
  Oh, God. OK, I see.
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  Which is pretty terrifying.
• 1:13
  Yeah. So from the director's mouth, that's all right.
• 1:17
  I did like how the creatures had like a faux face on their face.
• 1:22
  Like they kind of had like a people face at the end of their mouth.
• 1:24
  It was like a crazy mashup of like bugs and a horse
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  and other weird shit with like horse mouth, horse mouth.
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  I think the creatures were pretty cool.
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  I mean, so welcome to this bonus episode of cage magical
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  and around about we've been in Nicholas cage.
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  So if I'm going to go back to your question from the other week,
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  if I had one hell mount,
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  it would be these wild ass monsters.
• 1:54
  Which episode is coming out first?
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  Please say this wherever it comes out.
• 2:00
  It's going to be good no matter what.
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  So your hell mount is going to be one of these things.
• 2:03
  Yeah. Spinning wheel of chompy boys.
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  I mean, they are on fire at the end.
• 2:07
  So we've seen what that can be.
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  Yeah. The potential is there.
• 2:11
  I like how much they just really wanted to kill those kids.
• 2:13
  Yeah, I get it. Kids are terrible.
• 2:16
  Yeah. Hank and Dean really tried their best.
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  They shit.
• 2:22
  Oh, that one broke me.
• 2:24
  Yeah, there was some venture brothers energy hairs in there.
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  Yeah, there really is.
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  I couldn't stop thinking about it,
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  especially when we were just left with the kids for half the movie.
• 2:33
  Nicholas Cage does get one line in the second.
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  Hey, how about we say what this movie is about real quick?
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  Yeah, I was just saying, like, let's let's break this one down.
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  I read the plot. I mean, it won't take long.
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  Nick, there's there's an apocalypse.
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  Nick Cage is running from a war zone that is a burnt out city.
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  Find some kids cut to 15 years in the future.
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  And none of that matter.
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  Presumably his kids, since he knew where to find them. Presumably.
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  But 15 years later, none of that matters.
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  And there's weird bug creatures coming up from the floor.
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  Well, the apocalypse does matter.
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  I mean, an apocalypse happened.
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  We didn't need to see the specific apocalypse that they showed.
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  It didn't matter to this movie.
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  No, no. You don't need reasons.
• 3:15
  Yeah, that that was more my point.
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  Were the chompy boys part of the apocalypse or was that?
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  No idea. Yeah.
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  No fucking clue.
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  Not even the kids know.
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  So it's true.
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  Kids don't know shit, though.
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  They do have that fun game, though.
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  Yeah. Stupid apocalypse.
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  10 seconds on why the world died. Yeah.
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  It's good.
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  Someday, you know, maybe some other people's children will play that game.
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  Cora. Yes.
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  Oh, the future is bleak.
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  Yes. Yes, it is.
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  Nick Cage and his boys hole up every night
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  because the creatures only come out at night.
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  The Hank one, the blonde one,
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  has a girlfriend at a neighboring farm and he keeps coming back late.
• 3:56
  His name is Thomas. His name is Thomas in the film.
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  That other firm is full of assholes. Yeah.
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  Yeah. At one point, Nick Cage gets blown up
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  and they take him to the other farm for help.
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  And they're like, Thomas can stay.
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  Nick Cage is really intent on not living through the apocalypse.
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  Like he blows himself up in defense of Hank.
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  And Thomas, then like in the end, he does more blow up stuff.
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  Technically, his son blew him up the second time.
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  You know, but he blew he allowed himself to be blown up.
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  He didn't crystal skull himself into a fridge and the kids did, though.
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  Yeah. Yeah. Everybody else got a chance at life.
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  He was through.
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  I can't blame him.
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  Like his kids, he was pretty big.
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  Cool Dean is pretty not high, but like burnt.
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  Well, he did take those drugs.
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  He did. I like how they're just like one penicillin.
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  We'll get you back on track.
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  Just generic medicine.
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  He probably knew like my kids got me fucking robot us in in pill form.
• 5:00
  This movie really missed out on the opportunity to just go hard home alone with it.
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  Because they try a little bit.
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  Yeah, because the kids got like a trap.
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  Or he's got in the attic door has like a cage that comes down on one of the creatures early on.
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  And then he builds like his bomb.
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  I was hoping for more hot doorknobs and shit.
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  Irons falling from the sky.
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  Paint buckets.
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  Yeah. The sort of things that you would expect.
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  Yeah. You know, all the classics.
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  So I enjoyed this movie.
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  It was it's got some things I didn't care for, like a lot of shaky
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  hand cams really don't need any of that to whoever out there says,
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  can you ever have too much shaky hand cam?
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  The answer is yes.
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  People's evidence, a 90 minutes of it is too much.
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  Yeah, I was totally fine.
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  Like I enjoyed that the nearest neighbors
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  just aren't willing to give up any kind of physical support.
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  Like they're not going to give up any resources now, which seems very true.
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  Yeah, that tracks.
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  Obviously, Hank can stay because he's a breeder.
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  And even though they don't want him touching their daughter.
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  Well, not yet.
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  Resources, man, resources.
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  One of their goons has to die before they can free up baby making resources.
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  Kind of reallocate. You're right.
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  Yeah. You got finite amounts of robot doesn't shit tickets.
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  They did have a pretty nice farm.
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  I did like how they worked up a pretty nice place.
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  When they accused him of stealing the the the medicine,
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  they're like, you're not going to run anymore.
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  And they were just going to shoot his ankle off.
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  Yeah. Fucking assholes.
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  He's not going to be a really good worker at that point.
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  I mean, you could do sit down work.
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  I'm sure there's a lot of like clerical work that needs to get done.
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  Office stuff and things.
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  Tax filing taxes. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Oh, it's tax. Somebody's got it.
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  It is tax day. Hope you got those in. Good luck.
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  You're on the West Coast. You have three more hours.
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  Oh, plenty of time. Yeah.
• 7:09
  I just have a bag of loose receipts.
• 7:10
  Does that work? Do I just mail that to the IRS?
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  Just put it in the CD-ROM drive. Good. Good idea.
• 7:16
  Get a CD-ROM drive and put them in there.
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  It's a dated joke.
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  All my jokes are dated.
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  What did you think of the overall look of the movie?
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  I dug it.
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  I liked the slow build to like the subterranean monsters,
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  like the little hints of it.
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  I don't like subterranean things, but I get claustrophobic.
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  So for me, it's just like uncomfortable.
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  Oh, yeah. I hate it.
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  Like under things, subterranean monsters and stuff.
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  I'm like, I don't like this out of principle
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  because I know we're going to be in a cave at some point.
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  And we were. Oh, man.
• 7:53
  I did not like the use of that, like
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  welding torch sparker or whatever that was.
• 8:00
  I was curious. It was something similar,
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  but it was more like a mechanical version.
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  It made me think of the Wheeler action figure from the Captain Planet line.
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  Oh, yeah. His power was like fire.
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  So he just had a sparker in him and his chest would just like spark.
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  That seems like a very dangerous toy and very like early 90s.
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  Yeah, that's great.
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  I like when at the end she picks up the lighter.
• 8:22
  All I could think of was pussy magnet.
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  Hear the sound?
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  Choo! All the hookers start coming.
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  She knows. Yeah.
• 8:34
  The little funeral at the end was a little I didn't care.
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  Could he use none of that? Yeah.
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  Yeah. That could have saved us a whole 90 seconds.
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  I asked I told I have Peter this in the car.
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  This movie seems like one where everyone could have died.
• 8:46
  No, it would have been fun.
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  I would have been OK with that.
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  I think that would have worked just as well.
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  I kind of want so the climax of this film is they blow up the house,
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  but they do it from the second floor because the creatures are coming in
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  from under the house and they just get in a large meat fridge.
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  It's a freezer meat freezer.
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  You could freeze and other things to a large freezer.
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  Not exclusively meat.
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  I'm trying to point a specific picture here, but the three kids get in that.
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  Hold it shut and go for a ride.
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  I wanted that thing to land in such a way where it couldn't be open.
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  I would have been fine with it, concluding with nobody getting out.
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  Like if the spinning wheel of teeth and fire
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  had caught up to them on their dune buggy escape,
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  that would have been fine with me because this doesn't feel like a franchise.
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  We're not going to get Arcadian to
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  Arcadian to colon.
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  We maybe we explain what the Arcadian is.
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  All right. What do you think about cage's performance overall?
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  I thought he was a good dad in this one. Yeah.
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  I really enjoyed the learning to drive scene
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  when they start rolling back down the hill.
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  That was good.
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  Yeah, I felt like a very, very classic, like
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  coming of age in an apocalypse kind of performance.
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  Yeah, because he doesn't really do a lot of dad roles.
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  No. And often it's like, oh, I was in prison or, you know, whatever.
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  Yeah, I wish myself into a dad role. Right.
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  He's got no like exemplary qualities
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  aside from survival.
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  Keeping two kids alive in the end times.
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  But, you know, he does cool dad things.
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  He hangs out, he smokes cigars, he chills by waterfalls.
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  He stares into the horizon.
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  I think that's every scene he was in.
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  He did make soup.
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  And he had one line in the second half of the film.
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  We fight or just fight.
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  Fight. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Half dead.
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  He kind of lets one word slide.
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  And that's it for the rest of the film, which is fine.
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  We can. But for the monsters.
• 11:02
  Yeah. A little bit of Nicolas Cage fighting with a baseball bat.
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  I like when he shot the floor for no specific reason.
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  And then a minute later, you see a monster charge up and fall through the floor.
• 11:12
  That was nice. Yeah. Yeah.
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  For a move. Yeah.
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  So he egged them on until like enough of them came and broke it out.
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  And started doing the choppy bits. Yeah.
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  Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
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  Yeah. Those things really move.
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  Yeah. Oh, the creepy, the creepy scene where the hand comes in through like the people
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  and it just keeps unfurling.
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  Yeah. I liked how it unfolded.
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  That's what originally got me thinking about it.
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  Like a like a spider leg or something.
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  Well, the Dean kid had all the drawings of bugs and stuff.
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  So I'm like, OK, so there.
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  Yeah, there was a big like cockroach theme going on.
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  So my assumption is it's just some sort of like mutant amalgamation of bug, mammal fire.
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  Fire is not like a base element of the animal.
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  It's not always on fire. Yeah.
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  But when it is, it's at its most frightening. It's true.
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  Then they blow up or she shot it in its weak spot.
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  It fell apart. I think they just finally gave it the fire.
• 12:18
  I thought it hit a branch like it was going along and it hit a branch like a low branch
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  and that broke it up. It's a dark fucking movie.
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  All these things could be possible.
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  You can see a lot. Whatever your heart desires.
• 12:30
  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Mine desires one slapstick moment.
• 12:35
  I'm not a big fan of like suspense horror in general.
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  And there were a couple like little jumps in this movie that I'm like, don't like that.
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  And when they come into the other farm and they start killing everybody
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  and I'm like, all right, you know, we're we're at monster times.
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  And then you see the first wheel of them just rolling through the fields.
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  And it was like, OK, now it's just funny. Yeah.
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  That completely cut all the tension for me.
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  Yeah, it does not make it scarier in the moment.
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  But when you consider it, like in the long term, it's like they can move.
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  What if these things fucking death wheeled around all the time?
• 13:12
  It made me think of specific enemies in Dark Souls.
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  So what do you guys put these in terms of the new cage movies that we've seen?
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  Where would you rank this one?
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  I enjoyed it quite a bit. I had fun.
• 13:27
  Yeah, I don't know if I could rank it.
• 13:30
  I mean, the closest thing to it would be probably sympathy for the devil.
• 13:34
  Being a thriller, which sympathy for the devil, so my favorite of the newer films.
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  It is a terrific film.
• 13:41
  Sean hates retirement plan.
• 13:43
  I did not say I hated retirement plan.
• 13:44
  I said I liked this movie more than retirement plan.
• 13:47
  Oh, Sean has poor taste as evidenced by this podcast.
• 13:53
  I said I enjoyed this film more than I enjoyed retirement plan.
• 13:56
  You hate it. Yeah, I heard it.
• 13:59
  It was in the subtext.
• 14:02
  I miss Bobo.
• 14:03
  Bobo is so cool. I do miss Bobo.
• 14:05
  I liked Ernie Hudson in that movie, too.
• 14:07
  He was good. I forgot Ernie Hudson was in that movie.
• 14:09
  Because you don't like it. Yeah.
• 14:11
  And it fucking rules. Yeah.
• 14:12
  Yeah. Yeah. I what did the last like
• 14:16
  how many years are we going like Renfield forward?
• 14:19
  Yeah, I think that's probably pretty, pretty fair.
• 14:21
  God, they're all so different.
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  I would probably put it above retirement plan for sure.
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  But beneath sympathy for the devil and Renfield.
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  What else has come out?
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  Butcher's Cross. Butcher's Crossing is below.
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  That's the bottom. This is better than Butcher's Crossing.
• 14:38
  Yeah, there was the old way.
• 14:40
  I don't know if we count that in the mix, too.
• 14:42
  Yeah, that's down below Butcher's Crossing.
• 14:45
  It's only got Eustace in my
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  it's on my bowl.
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  In my look back time memories. Yeah.
• 14:52
  My memories. Yeah.
• 14:54
  The old look back time memories.
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  What do I think?
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  Movie cage cage movie. Good, bad, bad, good.
• 15:00
  It is a movie with cage.
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  I think we found it. All right. Yeah. Perfect.
• 15:05
  Yeah, you can see Arcadian in theaters maybe for the rest of the week.
• 15:09
  We'll see. But if not, I think it's already on streaming.
• 15:12
  It is not. Oh, it's not.
• 15:14
  It will be soon, though.
• 15:15
  Good. Go see it in theaters.
• 15:17
  If you catch this before the week is out.
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  But don't go to the regal we went to because that place was weird
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  and maybe had pod people.
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  I do love that the ticket taker is badge
• 15:32
  that said his favorite movie was Cars 2.
• 15:34
  Come on.
• 15:36
  Well, any final thoughts on Arcadian?
• 15:38
  It's a romp. I know I say that about most films.
• 15:42
  But it's true.
• 15:43
  I enjoy it. Romp means I enjoyed it.
• 15:46
  Yeah. If you could sit through all of this half thought out
• 15:50
  rambling about it and it still interests you.
• 15:53
  Yeah. Go see it. Yeah.
• 15:54
  You'll probably be one of the entertain two other people in the theater.
• 15:59
  Well, OK, let's be real. It's a Monday night.
• 16:01
  I know it's just like a strip club.
• 16:03
  They don't put their A team at the theater on a Monday night.
• 16:07
  You know, you bring out your cars to and bad boys, boys.
• 16:11
  Both those people like made me think that they were like
• 16:15
  aliens pretending to be humans.
• 16:16
  They probably were.
• 16:18
  And it's rude of you to point it out.
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  They're trying to. They're doing their best.
• 16:21
  They got a job at the regal.
• 16:23
  When Peter and I got in there, we saw a guy like walk out of one theater
• 16:26
  and like walking back towards our theater.
• 16:29
  I mean, like most people kind of look like you.
• 16:31
  Mm hmm. He was U shaped.
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  He was shaped.
• 16:34
  This is what we do.
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  Just pod people.
• 16:39
  You were worried about the wrong pod people this whole time.
• 16:42
  I did invite you into my house.
• 16:44
  Yeah. And into your pod cast. Yeah.
• 16:48
  That I did at the time.
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  Bye.
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  Ding ding ding ding ding ding.
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  Bye bye.
• 17:00
  Also, I got the last hot dog.
• 17:05
  Yeah, fuck you.
• 17:06
  We get up there. Sean gets the last hot dog.
• 17:09
  I get there. I'll take one hot dog.
• 17:11
  Nope, we're out.
• 17:13
  You'll take none hot dog.
• 17:15
  Damn it.
• 17:16
  Also, that five guys hot dog was pretty bad.
• 17:18
  Don't recommend you had a hot dog. You had a five guys.
• 17:20
  I don't. I didn't want a burger.
• 17:21
  I've just had a burger. Yeah, that's fair.
• 17:23
  You can get that. I just had low main.
• 17:27
  Oh, yeah.