Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Rebranding, SOPs, and Sales Strategies: A Business Growth Deep Dive
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show. Today is going to be a
- 0:05continuation of what we tried to do the last time, which was a
- 0:08rambling episode where I shared some insights, some details of
- 0:13conversations that I had with people over the last week or
- 0:16two. Oh, by the way, apologies
- 0:17because I'm not in the audio booth.
- 0:19And so there's going to be interruptions in the background,
- 0:22especially since the midterms are on right now in Abuja.
- 0:26So the munchkins are in the house.
- 0:27So yeah, expect to hear some noise in the background.
- 0:31So in the previous episode, I went over the conversation that
- 0:35I had with the real estate professional.
- 0:37And so today I'm going to try and tackle the conversation that
- 0:40I had with the beauty and skin care specialist.
- 0:47OK, like I said, this is a random episode, so in no
- 0:50particular order, let me just try and run through a couple of
- 0:53the things that we spoke about. Now the lady in question has
- 0:58been in business for four years and she's had no system in place
- 1:03and she said she was looking at rebranding.
- 1:06And that's when we had the phone conversation because this was my
- 1:11primary concern. Now, coming from a wedding
- 1:16background, wedding and events photography background, I was
- 1:22concerned because back in my day when I got into the game,
- 1:26wedding photographers had this whole thing of, you know, every
- 1:28two or three years they'll say I'm doing rebranding, I'm doing
- 1:31rebranding. And basically what rebranding
- 1:34meant was like changing the logo, changing the colours,
- 1:39changing the website, you know, that sort of thing.
- 1:41And in the Lagos and Abuja community, I just got this sense
- 1:47that wedding photographers just assumed that if you change your
- 1:50logo, you change your colors, you switch off the website, you
- 1:52make everything nice and make everything much more polished,
- 1:55then somehow the business will just kick off.
- 1:58And that is where I just got this nagging thing, you know, at
- 2:03the back of my brain that every time I hear a business person
- 2:06say they want to do rebranding, you know, I feel as if I just
- 2:08have to tell them that, look, you know, changing logos, fonts,
- 2:13brand websites, this, this, this, that, that.
- 2:16That is not enough to get your business to move forward.
- 2:19What gets the business to move forward actually is when you
- 2:22change the underlying fundamentals.
- 2:25So if you change customer service procedures, you can't
- 2:28see a bump in business. If you change your selling
- 2:31processes and selling frameworks, you can see a bump
- 2:34in business. If you make changes to the
- 2:37actual product or the service itself, you might see a bump in
- 2:39business. But bottom line is if you want
- 2:42the business to change, it's, it's a change in the
- 2:45fundamentals or the substantials that brings the growth in
- 2:48business and not stuff like rebranding.
- 2:52But I'm glad I had that conversation with her anyway
- 2:54because when we had that conversation, I figured out that
- 2:57what she meant by rebranding was not any of those concerns that I
- 3:01have in mind. And by the way, I hope you guys
- 3:03are beginning to see because it's something that happened in
- 3:05the conversation with the real estate professional and what's
- 3:08happening here as well. If you choose to communicate
- 3:11only with text, then there's this danger that somebody will
- 3:14say something and you will interpret it your own way or you
- 3:17will say something, the other person will interpret it their
- 3:20own way. But when you're having a voice
- 3:23to voice conversation or face to face conversation or video
- 3:26conversation, you can quickly clarify, you know, the
- 3:30misconceptions because I saw rebranding and I thought one
- 3:33thing based on my own context, my own previous business
- 3:38history, you know, stuff like that.
- 3:39But she meant it to be something else.
- 3:42Now, at the end of the day, some of you might debate, you know,
- 3:44who actually understands rebranding more?
- 3:46Is it the beauty professional or is it me?
- 3:49But you know, that's besides the point.
- 3:51The point that I'm just trying to make with the conversation
- 3:53with the real estate professional and the
- 3:55conversation with her, the beauty specialist, it's just to
- 3:59show that it actually does make a difference when you're
- 4:01communicating with someone. If you are pinging back and
- 4:04forth or if you pick up the phone, you make a call, or you
- 4:07pick up the Zoom, you do a video thing or you pick up WhatsApp,
- 4:11you do a video thing, or you do pick up WhatsApp and do an audio
- 4:14call. These things make a difference
- 4:17because you're having all forms of lapses in communication.
- 4:20That's for those of you who decide to stick only to
- 4:22WhatsApp. The thing is, you don't know
- 4:24there's a problem because you don't know.
- 4:27Nobody has pointed it out. So the only reason why I know
- 4:30about the lattice in communication with the real
- 4:32estate professional and with the beauty and skin care specialist
- 4:35is precisely because I hopped on the phone and I realized that
- 4:38oh, OK, When they said XI misunderstood it to mean Y.
- 4:42So please, as much as possible, especially for those of us who
- 4:45are small and medium scale in the early days, hop on the phone
- 4:48as much as you can, please. So, and when she said
- 4:54rebranding, basically what she had in mind was just she had
- 4:56been running this thing for the last four years and she had no
- 4:59system in place. So right now she wanted to put
- 5:01systems in place. And for that, you know, I duffed
- 5:03my heart to her. And unfortunately, it's
- 5:05something that an error that a lot of us fall into.
- 5:09And it's something I've spoken about on the podcast about how
- 5:12my very first bright affair, I was in partnership with someone
- 5:17else, 150 people came to the stand.
- 5:19We split the leads between us. I can't remember how we split
- 5:22it, whether it was 7575 or whatever.
- 5:25And I got 3 deals off of that. And you know, with each deal
- 5:29averaging about, you know, you know, between 3:50 and 4:50, I
- 5:32thought, you know, I had a good outcome.
- 5:35But it's only now looking back in the past, I realized that
- 5:39actually that's a poor outcome because if we split the leads
- 5:445050, that'll be 7575. It actually is a poor outcome
- 5:48that you talk to 75 people who come to a bridal show and then
- 5:50you only click, only three weddings click.
- 5:55And then apart from that, I didn't even, I had no systems at
- 5:58the time. I didn't write down anything.
- 6:00I don't know what my sales process was.
- 6:02I don't know what my sales framework was.
- 6:04So I didn't even know what it was that I needed to replicate
- 6:07at the next bridal fair that I attended.
- 6:10So actually there's a problem that a whole bunch of people
- 6:12fall into. And so if you're new in whatever
- 6:15business it is that you're doing and you haven't made that
- 6:18mistake that I made when I started off as a wedding
- 6:20photographer and that this lady made as a beauty and skin care
- 6:25specialist, Please don't make that mistake.
- 6:27Just start writing down small, small, small things.
- 6:30Like I tell you guys, it doesn't have to be detailed, you know,
- 6:32just bullet points, OK, like with the real estate
- 6:37professional. Well, we're going over
- 6:39greetings, intentions, questions, proposal and close.
- 6:43You know, that simple framework and then just sketching it out.
- 6:46You can sketch out on paper and just do dot dot dot dot dot
- 6:48greeting, appropriate greeting, intention, discuss this
- 6:51question, ask these kinds of questions, proposal.
- 6:53This is how you ask it close. Ask for this, you know, if you
- 6:57make those things small, small, small, you know, in your jotter
- 7:01on your phone or your computer, by the time you're talking to
- 7:04the next client or you're attending the next business
- 7:06exhibition or something, you have a framework that you can
- 7:09look at and say, oh, OK, this is what I said last time that was
- 7:13able to guarantee me 3 weddings out of 75 clients.
- 7:18So if I take this exact script and I come into this setting, I
- 7:23should expect to get similar results.
- 7:24Oh, by the way, it doesn't work like that.
- 7:26You know, it's not, it's not mathematics, but your chances
- 7:30for business success grow up when you actually, so I say grow
- 7:34up, you're they go up or they increase when you actually have
- 7:38some sort of plan in place and something that you can measure
- 7:42against or something that you can optimize because you can sit
- 7:45down with the plan and say that, OK, this is what I did.
- 7:47This was the results I got. I didn't like it.
- 7:50Let me change this more. Please let me see what happened.
- 7:53Let me change this one. Let me see what happened.
- 7:54And then that's how we get better and better.
- 7:56So, yeah, so the beauty and skin care specialist is definitely on
- 8:02point that she wants to put some systems in place.
- 8:07And so that's good. We all need systems in our
- 8:09business, you know, no matter how small.
- 8:11So just use your common sense, use the idea, just be writing
- 8:15this small, small, small. Eventually when you get to the
- 8:17point of calling in a consultant, you know, some sort
- 8:19of business professional, they can help you to outline things
- 8:25much more clearly. And then nowadays that you guys
- 8:29have the benefit of AI, you know, Google, Gemini, ChatGPT,
- 8:32We didn't have all this stuff back when we were starting out,
- 8:35you know, 1520 years ago. So now that you guys have these
- 8:38things, it's something you can even use to make your life a
- 8:40whole lot easier. You can just type in, I am a
- 8:43beauty and skin care specialist based in the city in blah, blah,
- 8:47blah, eastern part of Nigeria. So, so and so my ideal clients
- 8:50are this, this, this and that. And my sales channels are
- 8:54something, something, something, something.
- 8:56I deal with XYZ number of clients in a year.
- 8:59And I'm currently doing so, so, so and so in profit.
- 9:02I would like to create a standard operating procedure.
- 9:06I'd like to create standard operating procedures for my
- 9:10business. And these are the clientele that
- 9:12I deal with B to B and then B to C Give me suggestions that will
- 9:16help me create standard operating procedures.
- 9:18And then you hit send and then you do that and then ChatGPT or
- 9:24Google Gemini or the other one. Was it is it purpose Cassidy or
- 9:28something? I can't remember what it's
- 9:30called, but basically whatever tool it is will give you some
- 9:32instructions. Now, OK, for a beauty and skin
- 9:35care specialist, the kind of SO PS that you need in your
- 9:38business are this 1234 to create this kind of standard operating
- 9:41procedure for talking to customers, do 1-234-245-6278 and
- 9:48they follow all those instructions.
- 9:50And you can see now that you're getting good guidance on how
- 9:54about on how to create some of these systems and procedures.
- 9:59These things are not going to be perfect.
- 10:01But like I said, when you've done some work with creating
- 10:03these things by yourself or trying to create them by
- 10:05yourself, when you now call in somebody later on, this person
- 10:10is a management professional, or this person is an accounting
- 10:12professional, or this person is a sales professional, that
- 10:14person will have a much easier job and you make a whole lot of
- 10:18progress if the person comes in and meets some kind of
- 10:21foundation that you can tweak upon.
- 10:23So please take advantage of these sorts of things.
- 10:26Use your common sense. Try and build the little that
- 10:29you can build when you're stuck. Take advantage of AI.
- 10:34Look at the suggestions. Some suggestions will make
- 10:36sense. Some suggestions don't make
- 10:37sense. The ones that don't make sense,
- 10:39ignore the ones that make sense. Try and implement.
- 10:41You'll be better off for it, especially when you hire the
- 10:44services of professional later on.
- 10:47Then we also spoke about how she looked at her business in in two
- 10:53ways, that she has the business to customer segment and then the
- 10:55business to business segment where she's training other
- 10:58businesses in these sorts of things.
- 11:00And I hope this is going to strike a chord with those of you
- 11:03who've been listening to the podcast for the last week.
- 11:06You know, where I made a podcast episode saying that those of you
- 11:08who keep saying human to human that you guys should stop that.
- 11:10That thing is just unnecessarily academic that when we say
- 11:13business to business and business to consumer, there
- 11:15actually is a substantial difference.
- 11:17Because when I'm selling to somebody and consumer who is
- 11:21paying out of his or her own pocket, the risk profile is
- 11:25different. Their concerns are different
- 11:27than if I'm selling to somebody who is a business and who is
- 11:30paying out of business coffers and stuff like that.
- 11:33So risk profile is different. How you go about selling is
- 11:36different. So these things actually do make
- 11:38a difference. And if you haven't started
- 11:41looking at your business like that, like how this beauty and
- 11:43skin care specialist is, then please start looking at your
- 11:47business that way because it's different.
- 11:49If you are a photographer like I started out and you're selling
- 11:54wedding photography to the bride and the groom, they're paying
- 11:56from their pocket. It is not the same thing as if
- 12:00you're talking to a corporation. Let's say you're talking to
- 12:02Nestle or you're talking to NBC, that's Nigerian bottling company
- 12:06Company and they want you to produce a documentary for them.
- 12:09It is not the same thing. Trying to talk to somebody in
- 12:12procuring departments and getting the person to issue you
- 12:14a contract is not the same thing.
- 12:16You will tackle the sale in a different way.
- 12:19So start looking at your business through those lens.
- 12:21Where is business to consumer? Where I'm talking to the end
- 12:24person, I'm talking to the mummy, I'm talking to the daddy,
- 12:26or I'm talking to the owner of the house, I'm talking to the
- 12:29person who wants to buy the car and where are those?
- 12:32The situation was different from when I'm talking to the
- 12:35accountant who has to report to the auger, who now has to take
- 12:39it to board of directors before they approve final payment.
- 12:42So it's different. Start looking at your businesses
- 12:46that way, or rather your set of customers that way and it will
- 12:50inform the way that you sell differently.
- 12:53Because if you're taking a business to consumer mindset and
- 12:56you're trying to apply that mindset to business to business,
- 12:59it's not going to work. You can't sell documentary.
- 13:05OK, let's say you're able to produce documentaries for NTA.
- 13:07You can sell a documentary to NTA the same way that you sell
- 13:10wedding photography to a bride. It's just not possible.
- 13:17Anyway, let me leave it on that then, OK.
- 13:22The lady was forwarding her business through network
- 13:23marketing. And then it made me realize that
- 13:25I haven't said a lot about network marketing because I
- 13:29think the most that I have said was in all that podcast
- 13:32episodes, I've tried to draw a distinction between network
- 13:35marketing, multi level marketing and pyramid schemes.
- 13:40Because you know, this is Nigeria now.
- 13:43So every 2-3 years, you know, these things come up.
- 13:47And I've been trying to get people to understand that, look,
- 13:49there's a difference between a pyramid scheme and genuine,
- 13:52genuine network marketing schemes and multi level
- 13:55marketing schemes. And one of the ways that I try
- 13:58to let people see that there's a difference is this.
- 14:01When it comes to pyramid schemes, people are just saying
- 14:03add to your downline, add to your downline.
- 14:05So you're going to recruit two people.
- 14:07The two people will recruit 4, the four will recruit 6, the six
- 14:11will recruit. Oh no, sorry, I got you wrong. 2
- 14:13will recruit 4, four will recruit 8, 8 will recruit 1616
- 14:19will recruit 3232 will recruit 64 and as people join, join,
- 14:22join, join, join like that you account to be increasing the
- 14:25amount of money that you earn will increase if you go for
- 14:29their meeting and that's all that they're talking about.
- 14:31Recruit, recruit, recruit, double your down line, increase
- 14:34your down line. Then be skeptical whether this
- 14:38thing is for real or not. But if you go there and they're
- 14:42talking about a specific product or a specific service and
- 14:47they're coming up with plans about how to sell this product
- 14:49or service, they're trying to make some of you distributors,
- 14:53They're trying to give you guys training in sales, in
- 14:56merchandising, in negotiations, in people management.
- 15:00Because of course you're going to have to recruit a down line.
- 15:03You have to recruit people that are going to sell on your
- 15:05behalf. When people are now discussing
- 15:07substantial stuff, they now know that OK, there's a genuine
- 15:09something going on here. So for this make up, this beauty
- 15:13and skin care person, they are selling actual products and at
- 15:17the meetings they're having these sorts of conversations.
- 15:20And in fact, anybody who is a member of that set up, actually
- 15:24you're functioning more like a distributor.
- 15:26You know, like how, OK, let me just use NBC, people that make
- 15:30Coca-Cola. So NBC, they make the Coke, they
- 15:33sell it to the general distributor in let's say Ikeja,
- 15:39Ikeja Market, that's for those of you in Lagos, Ecasia Market
- 15:44on that bridge. Then the woman who owns the
- 15:47shop, the gigantic shop in Ecasia Market on that bridge
- 15:50where she buys maybe like 200 crates every week, she now has
- 15:54to start selling the crates. You know, small, small, small,
- 15:56somebody will come and buy 5 crates, another person will come
- 15:59and buy 10, another person will come and buy 12.
- 16:01So that's the sort of thing that we're talking about here.
- 16:03You have a distributor who is stalking, who is selling to
- 16:06other people. Those other people will now sell
- 16:08to retail. So these are the kind of things
- 16:14I'm talking about when I say network marketing, multi level
- 16:17marketing, you know, all these sorts of things.
- 16:18So if there's something substantial that you guys are
- 16:20talking about and it's not just a matter of two people should
- 16:22recruit 4, four should recruit 88, should recruit 1616, should
- 16:27recruit 32. And if you're doing that, then
- 16:30we'll become, we'll become millionaires.
- 16:32So if there's something substantial that you guys are
- 16:33talking about, then it's all good, especially if they're
- 16:37giving you guys the training that you need because just
- 16:39adding down line, adding down line without giving you training
- 16:42that this is the product. This is how we will sell it.
- 16:45This is how we will market it. This is how we will merchandise
- 16:48it. This is how you will arrange
- 16:49your shop. If you're going house to house,
- 16:51car to car, this is how you will arrange the things in your boots
- 16:54to make a good presentation. Or if you're going to people's
- 16:57houses to make presentations, this is how you will arrange
- 16:59everything. This is how you call the
- 17:00meeting. This is how you do, this is how
- 17:02you do that. You're not receiving all that
- 17:03training then please be afraid. And then the podcast episode
- 17:08that I spoke about in detail, I used this woman, what's her
- 17:14name, Mary Kay, as an example. Yeah, because Mary Kay, that's
- 17:18pretty much, that's pretty much her business model and currently
- 17:22is a billion dollar company. But as their business model,
- 17:25basically you have this makeup products, you recruit young
- 17:29women and for them, it's only women because they have this
- 17:32thing of female empowerment behind it.
- 17:34So if you're a guy, sorry, you can't sell Mary Kay, you can
- 17:38only be a female distributor. And you recruit these women, you
- 17:42get them to be distributors, you provide financing capital so
- 17:46that they can buy some stuff and then you train them and you
- 17:48package them well. This is how you dress.
- 17:51This is how you make a presentation.
- 17:53This is our ideal customer profile.
- 17:55You will go to so, so, so and so neighbourhoods.
- 17:57This is how you host the house party, this is how you test the
- 18:00make up. This is how you get them to
- 18:02close. This is how you get referrals.
- 18:04This is how you recruit other people to start selling on your
- 18:06behalf and this is how you train other people.
- 18:09So like that, like that, like that and like play make up as in
- 18:13powder and lipstick has become a billion dollar company, not
- 18:19billionaire company, billion dollar company from just pancake
- 18:24lipstick make up. So yeah.
- 18:29So I just just realized that I have to do some more episodes in
- 18:33the future about network marketing, multi level
- 18:35marketing. And then I share the resource
- 18:37with her and it's called your virtual offline podcast.
- 18:40It's not a Niger podcast, it's a it's an American guy, but it's
- 18:43about these sorts, these sorts, these sorts of things.
- 18:47So please, really, really important.
- 18:48So if you're hanging around a bunch of folks and then they're
- 18:50saying network marketing, network marketing, multi level
- 18:53marketing, multi level marketing, please shine your
- 18:56eyes and make sure you go and do your research.
- 18:59Go and read up ChatGPT, Gemini. These things are available now.
- 19:04What is network marketing? What is level multi level level
- 19:08marketing? How can I distinguish between a
- 19:11genuine network marketing company and a scam?
- 19:14Put all these things into AI, see what the response comes out
- 19:17and then shine your eyes and check all these opportunities.
- 19:20Because like I said, this is Niger.
- 19:22Every two or three years like clockwork, a new one comes up.
- 19:26And then the, the, the thousands and millions of people that fall
- 19:29for this thing are plenty. Especially the ones that that
- 19:32are built around money, which is come here, join this club.
- 19:38You invest with 20K, then recruit two people.
- 19:42The two people we invest with 20K each.
- 19:45Those two people we recruit for, those four will invest with 20K
- 19:49each. The four will recruit 8, those 8
- 19:52will invest with 20K each. And from the 2020 K that
- 19:55everybody's paying will be giving you, you know, 55K or
- 19:59something. And then your math, you do the
- 20:01calculation now, oh, if I start today on Monday, I'm able to
- 20:03recruit 4. And then next week my four are
- 20:06able to recruit 8. You can do the math in your head
- 20:08and say, OK, how much money you're going to make.
- 20:09And then at the end of the day, it turns out to be a Ponzi
- 20:11scheme. So these things happen all the
- 20:13time. So please shine your eyes.
- 20:16Well for the beauty and skin care specialist is in a legit
- 20:19space and so that's good. So just shine your eyes, make
- 20:23sure that you do things right. Then let's see what else.
- 20:29OK, We spoke about our preferences for online for
- 20:35online marketing because like I told you guys, so I didn't put
- 20:38on the front it's really hot here.
- 20:40The weather in Abuja has just gone mad because it was raining
- 20:43before, but then for some reason the rains just stopped all of a
- 20:48sudden. And now the heat in Abuja is on
- 20:51another level. And what was I?
- 20:55Yeah. So she has a preference for
- 20:58online, doing stuff online. And we had that conversation
- 21:01because those of you who listen to the podcast, you know that
- 21:05you know, my own bias. My own bias is always get out
- 21:08and talk to somebody, go and have one-on-one meeting.
- 21:11Enter somebody's office, invite the person to your studio, go
- 21:13and see them in their house. You know those sorts of things
- 21:17because of the quality of the conversations that you have and
- 21:20because of the quality of insights that you get when you
- 21:23start seeing people one-on-one. So you know, that's my thing.
- 21:26And yes, I will admit I am biased.
- 21:28You guys will see that whenever I talk to you, I will always try
- 21:32and get you to actually leave your house, get out from behind
- 21:35the keyboard and go and talk to somebody and try and sell
- 21:38something direct first before we start this online, online,
- 21:41online, online because online is not bad, but we need quality of
- 21:45insights first about who our ideal customers are, the things
- 21:49that they like, the kind of language that we should use in
- 21:52all these sorts of things. So if you go out and you sell
- 21:57your stuff, let's say, OK, let's say you sell towels for
- 22:03children. If you go and talk to mommies
- 22:07and daddies and you try to sell your towels for children and
- 22:14over the course of one year you talk to maybe 100 families, by
- 22:20the time you know, decide to do Instagram advertisements and
- 22:23Google advertisements and not what not, you will have the
- 22:27insights that you need to say. What kind of colour should you
- 22:31use? Which kind of towels should you
- 22:33advertise? Which ones sell more?
- 22:36What kind of language should you use?
- 22:38You know, stuff like that because you have done face to
- 22:41face, you have spoken to 100 families over the course of two
- 22:44years trying to sell your towels to children.
- 22:49So yeah, what was I? So I tried to make sure that I
- 22:54was setting her with realistic expectations because a lot of
- 22:56people are trying to get into the online game.
- 23:00While luckily she does have the right set of expectations, but
- 23:03people don't realise that when this thing comes to online
- 23:06content marketing, things like that.
- 23:08The expectation I should have is this.
- 23:11There is no, and I repeat, there is no online play that works
- 23:17short term. Short term meaning three months,
- 23:21six months. There is no online thing that
- 23:24you do in three months that will make you blow or six months that
- 23:27will make you blow. Some people get lucky and that
- 23:30happens. When that happens, just know
- 23:34that that is an outlier. That is not the normal baseline
- 23:39of performance. If you know 20 people who are in
- 23:43business and one person did something and they think click
- 23:46for them, don't take that to mean that that's the standard
- 23:49that will work for you. Let's be realistic here.
- 23:52It's an outlier for most people online.
- 23:56Oh, try. You know, the fan is making so
- 23:58much noise. Let me turn this off.
- 24:00I've disgraced myself live on air now that I haven't serviced
- 24:03my fan so it's making noise. I need to take it to the
- 24:07electrician and where I'm greased it up, where was I?
- 24:13So I was saying realistics of expectations.
- 24:15There's no online thing that is going to work short time.
- 24:17Short time is three to six months depending on what
- 24:19business is that you're doing. So online stuff is usually mid
- 24:23to long term. So in other words, one year or
- 24:26above. In fact, there are some
- 24:27industries where the some people say that if you want to be a
- 24:30thought leader in social associates, you have to budget
- 24:33three to four years. So just know that depending on
- 24:36the product or the service or the context or who the ideal
- 24:39customer is or something, there is no game plan that is going to
- 24:44work for you short term. There is no online thing that
- 24:47you do that you will blow in three to six months.
- 24:49None. There are some people online who
- 24:52say, oh I got myself to 40,000 LinkedIn followers in a month or
- 24:56something. Yeah, those sorts of things can
- 24:57work. But 40,000 followers on LinkedIn
- 25:00does not mean you got 40,000 paying clients.
- 25:03It's not the same thing. So please let's be mindful, so
- 25:06realistic, let's have realistic time expectations.
- 25:10Now if there is nothing that is going to work between 3:00 to
- 25:14six months and the average person is going to have the
- 25:17producing content for a year to maybe 3 or 4 years, we now have
- 25:24to pay attention to two things. A bunch of us are married or in
- 25:28relationships. You can't expect your partner to
- 25:32be supporting you for one whole year or three years or eight
- 25:37months or however long it takes for this thing to pop off.
- 25:40There has to be something that you're doing that will bring in
- 25:42this small, small, small money. If you have a full time job,
- 25:45then OK, that's cool, that's sorted.
- 25:47But if not, while you're doing this online thing, you also have
- 25:50to be doing the offline thing where you're looking for people
- 25:53and talking to them face to face and trying to get them to buy
- 25:55now so that small, small chatter will be entering the account.
- 25:59This one, I'm just being purely practical here.
- 26:02You can't sit behind the keyboard for three months, six
- 26:06months, 8 months, one year. You have to be doing something
- 26:09that is bringing in small Naira and Kubo.
- 26:11Just being practical here. Then that is one side.
- 26:16Now the second side is this. If you're going to be behind the
- 26:18keyboard, three months, six months, 8 months, one year, 2
- 26:22years, you need to have a plan. You need a content calendar for
- 26:26what it is you're going to be posting.
- 26:28Because it is hard to wake up today and say what will I post?
- 26:33You wake up Thursday, what will I post?
- 26:36You wake up Monday, what will I post?
- 26:38And you live your life like that for three months, six months, 8
- 26:42months, one year, 2 years. Mental life is hard.
- 26:46So you come up with a content calendar and a content calendar,
- 26:49just a simple guide that says for this week, we'll talk about
- 26:52this, next week, we'll talk about that, the week after,
- 26:55we'll talk about this, the week after we'll talk about that.
- 26:59When you have that as a simple game plan, then this whole thing
- 27:02of creating content becomes a whole lot easier.
- 27:04And that is what makes it possible for people to create
- 27:06content for such a long time. So for me, I have over 960
- 27:12episodes on the podcast for now. The reason why that's possible
- 27:16is because I have a content calendar.
- 27:18Now. My content calendar is not
- 27:20sophisticated and I will not ask you guys to produce content the
- 27:23way that I do because clearly you see what it is that I do.
- 27:26I have conversations with people, I speak at public events
- 27:32and I have private coaching clients.
- 27:35And then questions come up from those sorts of things and I
- 27:38decide that I'm going to share a series of those on the podcast.
- 27:41So it's possible that I can have a coaching engagement with
- 27:44somebody now. And let's say the coaching
- 27:46engagement lasts maybe six weeks.
- 27:49And then by the time I'm done with that, I look at my notes,
- 27:51I'm like, OK, out of the 20 issues that we discussed, it
- 27:54looks like four of them are topical.
- 27:56And then those four topics, if I'm splitting them into 3, three
- 28:02episodes each, you can now see how from 4 topics I can get like
- 28:0812 podcasts episodes straight. But what I'm just trying to say
- 28:11is that for me, I have a process of coming up with what it is
- 28:14that I'm going to talk about. For me, I don't have to wake up
- 28:17tomorrow and decide what am I going to make a podcast about?
- 28:20I don't. It's already there on the piece
- 28:22of paper. All I have to do is wake up in
- 28:23the morning, check the sheet of paper.
- 28:27And in this case, it looks like this is the last sheet of paper.
- 28:29So tomorrow morning I'm going to wake up and then look at my
- 28:31phone. What's next on the list?
- 28:33The thing that is next on the list, I'm going to talk about.
- 28:36The day after that, I'm going to wake up and pull up my phone and
- 28:39I'm going to look at the list. The thing that's on the list,
- 28:41that's what I'm going to talk about and that is what makes it
- 28:44possible for someone to have over 960, close to 170 episodes
- 28:49because I'm not waking up every day and I'm thinking about what
- 28:51am I going to write next? What am I going to write next?
- 28:53What am I going to podcast about next?
- 28:55So you need a content calendar. So you have to sit down and come
- 28:59up with something. How are you going to come up
- 29:01with something if this is your first time in business?
- 29:04Traditionally, what I like to tell people, the old school
- 29:08method that never fails is when you're talking to your
- 29:11customers, the kind of questions that they're asking you, that is
- 29:13the content that you should start with.
- 29:15So if you're a beauty and you're a skin care person and when you
- 29:18try to sell your makeup, people are asking you, how do I apply
- 29:21this? Is it best to apply this one in
- 29:24the morning or in the night? Should I apply it with
- 29:27emulsifier or not? Or can I wear this one overnight
- 29:32when I sleep? Or if I wear this one, what kind
- 29:35of lipstick and lip gloss can I use if people ask me that kind
- 29:38of question? That is your content calendar
- 29:41right there. Just be writing down all these
- 29:43things. The first Instagram video that
- 29:45you make, that will be it now. Oh, good morning, my makeup
- 29:51fans, blah, blah, blah. This is our leading immosifier
- 29:56product has been selling like hot cakes.
- 29:58I've been selling it at this and this and that and that.
- 30:00And I've noticed that a bunch of you have questions whenever you
- 30:03buy this. And so that's the reason why I'm
- 30:05making this video. People have been asking that if
- 30:07I use this emulsifier, can I wear it overnight or can I wear
- 30:11a pair with this and this and that?
- 30:12So that's what we're going to discuss today.
- 30:14If you're using this emulsifier, it is HPV something, something,
- 30:17it is compatible with this and this.
- 30:18Therefore, you can use it with products like Mary Kay and this
- 30:21and this and that and that. Do not use it with this product
- 30:24if you have oily skin, but if you have dry skin, you can use
- 30:27it like this. You can use it like that.
- 30:29Now, I'm not in the beauty and makeup space, so I'm just making
- 30:32stuff up. So those of you who have makeup
- 30:33people, please, you know, don't get angry with me.
- 30:35I'm just trying to explain something where you can see how
- 30:38this is useful and relevant content from day one that your
- 30:42audience can relate to. And it's the kind of thing that
- 30:46can grow sales because it's answering specific questions
- 30:49that customers have been asking everyday.
- 30:51So left to meal, This is why I tell you guys that just start
- 30:56with the questions that people are asking you everyday.
- 30:58I know sometimes it sounds like it's obvious or it's boring, but
- 31:03The thing is you are the specialist.
- 31:05So you know that if you use SPV 45 or whatever, you can't sleep
- 31:11with it. But if you use SPV 102, you
- 31:13can't sleep with it. You're the professional.
- 31:16So you know that what The thing is, ordinary people like me, we
- 31:18don't know that. So it might be boring for you,
- 31:21but go ahead and make that content because that's a
- 31:22question people are asking. So that is also another bias of
- 31:27mine. And so if I'm working with you,
- 31:28yes, just know it right now. I will tell you that.
- 31:31Please let us start from there. What are the questions people
- 31:33are asking you? So when you're talking to
- 31:35people, just having a small book, just nothing big, just
- 31:39small like this one that secretaries used to carry back
- 31:42in the day, just carry it and be making small notes like, oh,
- 31:47sorry, Madam, sorry. Don't be annoyed.
- 31:49I want to be writing some things that you're saying that I don't
- 31:51want to forget. You just let them know and then
- 31:54you write those things down. That's your content calendar
- 31:56right there. If you don't want to go that
- 32:00route, then AI is there. German, I'm char GBT, and then
- 32:04you go through the whole thing. I'm a beauty and skin care
- 32:06specialist based in the city of Dubai.
- 32:10I sell products that can be easily used by women of Arabian
- 32:18descent and can be compatible with something something heat of
- 32:21the United Arab Emirates. I want to expand my business
- 32:26online and I want to create content on YouTube videos and
- 32:31Instagram that should help me lead to more sales.
- 32:35Come up with ideas for a content calendar that should last 12
- 32:38weeks that you talk about lipsticks, powder and you know,
- 32:43something, something, something and then hit send and then
- 32:46Gemini ChatGPT, whatever it is you're using perp security or
- 32:49whatever that thing is called is going to give you a bunch of
- 32:52stuff. And like I said, some of these
- 32:55things will make sense. Some of them will not.
- 32:57The ones that don't make sense, just delete the ones that make
- 33:00sense. Oh yeah, start recording.
- 33:02Get your phone, get your beauty light, get your beauty dish, get
- 33:05your whatever, and then start recording.
- 33:07So that's the last part basically.
- 33:11Now, if you're going to take an online thing to it, just bear
- 33:14this in mind. It's going to take a long time.
- 33:18In the long time that is going to take before things get
- 33:20traction and you start getting sales, how are you going to be
- 33:22making money? You need to pay attention to
- 33:25that. So we'll be talking to people
- 33:26one-on-one. Try and sell some stuff or get a
- 33:28full time job because if your spouse is going to support you
- 33:32through this is going to be rough.
- 33:35If you're a babe and it's your husband and supporting you,
- 33:38after a while we will feel as if or your boyfriend's supporting
- 33:40after we feel as if the guy is now taking you for granted, like
- 33:43he doesn't respect you. I'm just being real, you know,
- 33:45just being real. If you're a man and it's your
- 33:48girlfriend who's supporting your wife who's supporting you, he's
- 33:52going to feel even rougher. You feel inadequate, like, oh,
- 33:56I'm not providing. You feel like she's not talking
- 33:59to you anyhow because she's the one that has the money.
- 34:01As in these things can get really, really, really rough.
- 34:04So if you want to do this online thing, come with a game plan.
- 34:07Then since it will take a long time, come up with a content
- 34:11calendar. I've already told you guys easy
- 34:12ways they can come up with content calendar.
- 34:15OK, it's 35 minutes, so excuse me, let me bring it to a close.
- 34:21Oh, unfortunately I didn't do shout outs today, so let me just
- 34:24do the shout out now. So I'd like to shout out Maximus
- 34:27Izzy who left a comment on Spotify.
- 34:33Thank you very much for doing that.
- 34:34I appreciate it. Like I said, those of you who
- 34:36are leaving me comments on Spotify and on YouTube, you guys
- 34:39are doing me a very, very, very good favour.
- 34:41I mean, still reach out to me on WhatsApp because I love talking
- 34:45to you guys direct. But The thing is, when you leave
- 34:48a comment on Spotify, it gives a clue to the Spotify algorithm
- 34:54that the podcast is valuable and it will share the podcast with
- 34:56more people. And for those of you who've been
- 34:58leaving me comments on YouTube, I really, really appreciate it.
- 35:02If I miss on my Gochuku, I saw your handiwork today.
- 35:05I saw the comment on Spotify. I saw the one that left on
- 35:08YouTube. I mean, thanks, you're really
- 35:09helping out the show because now YouTube and Spotify will start
- 35:13sharing the podcast to more people.
- 35:15So thank you very much, Maximus essay and Ezzy, sorry.
- 35:18And those of you who believe in comments on Spotify and who are
- 35:20listening to the show then on Spotify, what I'm listening to
- 35:25that I would share with you guys today is I'm listening to Rev
- 35:28Theory or Revelation theory, but they just do Rev theory.
- 35:32Now. If you're born again Christian
- 35:33and you're looking for good stuff to listen to, this is not
- 35:36that kind of music because you see Revelation in the title.
- 35:39Don't want to subscribe to them. It's like my uncle who was a
- 35:41priest, he saw Bon Jovi. You know, Bon Jovi had the album
- 35:44called Faith also. My uncle now asked by a priest,
- 35:46he said, I have faith. OK, maybe this is good Bon again
- 35:49music. And then he carried it and then
- 35:51he played it. And then he was like, what the
- 35:53hell is this? And then he just left it in the
- 35:55house. And then I saw it.
- 35:56I was like, hey, uncle, you listen to Bon Jovi and he's
- 35:58like, that thing is rubbish. And I took it and I listened to
- 36:00it and I loved it because I like rock music.
- 36:03So if you hear revelation theory and you think this is born
- 36:06again, this is not born again. Just like if you see Jon Bon
- 36:10Jovi, the album Faith and you think, OK, I need something
- 36:13spiritually soothing to listen to, this is not that kind of
- 36:15music. It's plenty of good, good, good,
- 36:17good, good, good, good. Jan, Jan, Jan, Jan, Jan, Jan,
- 36:19Jan. As in it's rock music, correct
- 36:21rock music, Hard Rock, grunge rock, Linkin Park.
- 36:27You know some of that, like Cobain kind of music.
- 36:30It is, is correct stuff, nice stuff.
- 36:33Definitely not the kind of thing that your momsey would
- 36:35appreciate. Definitely not the kind of thing
- 36:37that your choirmaster or mistress would appreciate.
- 36:39And if you're a Muslim, it's not the kind of thing that you are
- 36:41alpha would appreciate. I'm just letting you guys know
- 36:43right now, but it's correct guitar stuff, if you like that
- 36:45kind of music. So rare theory on on Spotify.
- 36:52If you want to try something in that same vein, but a little bit
- 36:56softer, do Linkin Park or do Creed.
- 37:02Yeah. So that's it for Cocobain and
- 37:04Nirvana. That one, it's, it sounds light.
- 37:07But the problem with that kind of music is it's too much
- 37:09existential angst. You know, what is the meaning of
- 37:12life? Where am I suffering, blah,
- 37:14blah, blah. I bet that's that's too heavy.
- 37:17Trying to build a business is hard enough.
- 37:18We don't have to now listen to another person moaning about
- 37:20what is the purpose of life? What is the meaning of life?
- 37:24Especially since the young man committed suicide, you know, his
- 37:27soul. Rest in peace, you know, but
- 37:28lots of people actually worrying about all those big things.
- 37:31What is the purpose of life? Why are we here?
- 37:33What is the meaning of life? Can money bring happiness?
- 37:35All those sorts of things. But anyway, that's a podcast
- 37:37episode for another day, so shout out to Maximo Susie.
- 37:41Thank you very much for finding the show.
- 37:43Thank you very much for missing my Aguchuku.
- 37:46The comments have been seen that you've been dropping all over
- 37:48the socials. I really appreciate it.
- 37:50Thanks for doing your bit to help the show grow.
- 37:53So now it's the end of my rambling episode for today.
- 37:56Thank you guys very much for your time and attention.
- 37:59I'll catch you guys at the next recording.
- 38:00Please come up with the content calendar so that you can wake up
- 38:03confidently tomorrow like I do and I don't have to start
- 38:06thinking what will I record. All I have to do is just open my
- 38:08phone or look at the paper and say, OK, yesterday, this is the
- 38:11list, this is what I spoke about, cross it off today, this
- 38:14is the next thing. And then I talk about it and
- 38:16then problem solved. And you can be like me, a
- 38:18prolific content creator who is using the contest to drive
- 38:23sales. Don't forget, the whole point of
- 38:27being on a mic or typing on the keyboard is because you're
- 38:30trying to grow sales. Don't just be getting a follower
- 38:32account. Follower account for the sake of
- 38:33follower account. Like I told you guys, I would
- 38:36rather have, I'd rather have instead of having 40,000
- 38:44followers on LinkedIn, I'd rather have 20,000 paying
- 38:48customers. You know, now it makes more
- 38:50sense. Anyway, that's it.
- 38:51Let me end. So this is 40 minutes, so I'll
- 38:54catch you guys tomorrow.