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• Off The Bench London (00:00) What up? Hey, we're back at it for another week. Another week. How we doing? Got a quick question for you though. Patience when it comes to sports, do we have patience? It really depends. It depends on the situation. I like to think we all have patience because we're all always about get rid of this guy, get rid of this guy, rebuild, do this, do this. But then once the season starts, you're like, okay, well you guys better win this year. Nobody wants to be on that team that is at the bottom all year long. I don't know. I think when it comes to sports right now, no one really has patience anymore because we're always expecting the next big thing and we can't wait to grow anything. No, everything pops so fast these days. It's true. Like things go viral. People are instant millionaires. cryptocurrency people are just instant millionaires. True. No one wants to grow. Exactly. No one wants to put the work in, trust the process, feel it out, start at the bottom, work your way up. Everyone wants to start at the bottom, but not be at the bottom for very long. I guess that's where you learn the lessons. guess those days are done. Yeah, it's all right. All right. So Yeah. I'm Malcolm Scott the Visionary So obviously we record every week at the Clubhouse. We have the national game going on behind us between Miami and Indiana. Miami, who's a team that... Star-studded young team... ...grew their team, versus Indiana, who used a transfer portal to get experience and build the team immediately. but you can also build your own by coming to clubhouse on Superbowl. Yeah. With your 10 year friends. your team. Build your team. Come watch Superbowl. Come chill with us. It's gonna be lots of prizes. Taz and Jim are going to be playing, doing their thing here. There'll be a, I believe if I remember correctly, a kickoff competition. Kickoff competition. So you got that FM 96 energy coming in here. You get us. And you have that wild prize they're giving out. It's true. True. Maybe you will go to the parade. The list of of where you might go is going down slowly. It could be Seattle. Could be Los Angeles. I'd love to go. want to go to L.A. I'd love to go L.A. Could be Denver. Denver is exciting. Hey, it's also February time so you can go skiing. Exactly. OK. Make the most of your trip out there. or you go to Boston. That's crazy. And go see the place that has the most parades ever. Unfortunately, because they just had a parade two years ago. I know. It's honestly silly. Children that have grown up there are spoiled. Yeah, because I would say if you're from Boston, you don't know what a participation award is. No. They do know what a participation award is. It's a trophy. For winning. Yeah, for winning for winning. They're like, guys, this isn't that hard. I don't know why every other city struggles. All right. So how was your week? Well. It was a very long week. feel like a lot of it. Like, obviously we did our podcast Monday. Yeah. And then we're getting into the boxing now. Yeah. did the fitness test. Holy. I'm still sore. Oh, I'm recovered now. But, uh, Oh man, that was, I haven't done burpees and pushups. Then you never went to quite some time. No, obviously not. I'd say boomers when I went there and first did my first boxing match the amount of burpees we did I'd say it's the amount for for the average human a lifetime and more I mean it's good though like I liked seeing the bar and It was cool seeing everyone else doing the test as well because when you feel like you're not in in shape You gotta remember you're still on par with a lot of the other people there. Exactly, exactly. So it was kind of like an equalizer. But you can also see the age group. know, if you're under 30, over 30, or close to your 60s. Yeah. You know, the cracking of joints was real. Exactly. Honestly, it was eye-opening. And for people who says, I want to get older, try doing burpees at the age of 30, then try it at 40, then do it at 60. Trust me. Yeah. Stay young forever. Yeah. After doing that, I spent a couple of days under the weather, but being really sore and sick. Yeah. Bad combo. So bad. Bad It is not fun. What else are we? ⁓ there was a boxing event on Saturday. Yeah, that was was crazy. So the Lawrence Boom Memorial Part Five boxing event took place at Marconi Club. Yeah. Man, that place was packed. It was sold out. sold out. saw actually one of my buddies, Jason Acker, at his debut fight. Obviously, unfortunately, he did not win. But it's hard to win your first fight. That's I mean, yeah, not everyone. I'm just telling myself that because I'm going to pump myself up. Yeah, not everyone can win their first play, but he showed a lot of patience, a lot of ⁓ a lot of potential. Like for an amateur boxer, obviously I'm only two fights in, so I'm just analyzing from my past experience. And I was actually pretty shocked. The guy was a little bit shorter and quicker and lighter on his feet, which was the advantage. you know. Well, when you see a guy like, I don't know, whenever I see people coming from Toronto to go to London for an event, you know they're going to be pretty good. It's true. Because usually Toronto sports don't need to travel like they don't go travel. But when they travel like there's so many people in Toronto, there's so much competition. I agree with that statement. Because like, I mean, when you saw them stand up next to get like up against each other like David and Goliath, he was so much bigger than him. the other guy was small, fast, super fit, wasn't burning out. It was burning out a little bit, like, I mean, not by comparison. True, true. And like he just couldn't keep a pin. The one thing I would say, especially for a debut fight like that, you know, he's doing in front of his friends and family. It's nerve wracking. That is like on a debut fight, it's the hardest challenge to get out to overcome. Yeah. Is the performance aspect of it. And it's not the ring aspect because you can always analyze that after it's like your first fights now on your belt. Who cares about the first outcome? Because at the end of the day, it's It's a learning experience. It's learning experience was like getting over that stage fright. Like, mean, I haven't. I, we haven't gotten into sparring yet, obviously. No, no, no. the real training is going to really kick off this week. Yep. But, I think that's going to be, that's one of those things that a lot of people don't think about that ring control, trying to cut your opponent off in the more, but we saw a lot of that. Sure. One thing I'll definitely say about Lawrence boot Memorial, ⁓ this is episode five or part five of it. ⁓ it, definitely paved the way for a lot more boxing events happening in the city. Obviously, you can sell one out. No problem. 100%. The first one that I knew about was fight 10 homelessness, which I ended up joining. Yeah, and did. ⁓ And then the next biggest one that I knew of was punch out. That was great. And then obviously this one is also like been paving way and boomers has been doing a great job. advertising boxing and getting the boxing world to where it is now in London. And now you have new gyms like MBT. Yeah, obviously. Yeah. MBT was representing at the event. Yes, 100%. We had a whole bunch of people there. Well, I mean, Coach J was in the ring. Yeah, and actually that was a great fight. It was. That was a really good fight. And like he was talking the other time the other day saying like he's been slowing his fight down. like slowing his game down and trying to be more patient in the ring. And he did it. But a great example of a person doing that was Jason Hackers, where in that fight he slowed the pace down. Obviously could have worked more in his benefit, but the way he was fighting was like a ⁓ very mature boxer. So yeah, I like older people tend to do that. True. You have to be right. You don't. You don't have more measure. You're not jumping into the ring with all this energy and bouncing around and going crazy right off the hop. Exactly. So that's just an experience thing. for sure. All right. I know we have the national game going on behind us. Miami versus Indiana. Who do you think is going to Man, I honestly think Indiana is going to win. You think so? think? I think they're going 16 and 0. OK, the first team, I guess, because it's the... The new platform. Yeah. Well, the way they built their team, they took a bunch of older players so they don't have all these little skill guys, but they have all these older veteran players. So they're beating everybody with strength. True. True. I don't know. Like personally, I kind of like going with the underdog Miami. You got speed, you got raw talent. And you got Michael Irving taking out his belt and slamming things like, come on. It's true. The energy out of Miami is just ridiculous. And unfortunately, aren't they playing in Miami right now? They're in the hard rock. they are too. They're playing in Miami. Yeah. Like this is a home game. It's a home game for a lot of them. So yeah. So having the underdog, that's such an equalizer though. the underdog gets the home field advantage. I mean, that just happens to be where that's was like, that's what I thought. That's why I made a playoff pool just in case Sam Fran made it to the Superbowl. They would have been home field advantage because they know that field drive an ambulance there and a hearse. Yeah, man. But you know, let's get into football then. All right, let's All right. So we're switching up our style just a little bit. That we are. Change it up just little tweaks. a little bit. New year, new us. like now we're... talk about. Now, well yeah, it's more... More direction? It's more direction. Like I said, every week we get better. We have another camera. We're bougie now, that's what you can say. We're starting to be bougie. We can get two things. So the one thing I'll say, and I'll drop it down, is like... man, this weekend for football was ridiculous. It was turnover heaven for all defensive coordinators out there. was like a nightmare for all like OCs. yes. It was heaven for defensive coordinators. yeah. Like, whoo. But I mean, that's what happens when you have like of all the teams, how many of the teams that are, playing in these games or offensive or defensive teams? There is. Okay, the ones that won, there was three defensive teams guaranteed that won. Unfortunately, one of those teams that won was also playing against a defensive forward team. And we all knew what happened in that. We'll get into that later. Yeah. What a weekend. There's only one game that was more offensive than defense and we might as well get into it. goes versus Broncos. Sean McDermott is a defense. I so bad for Josh Allen. Just because that was his fault. losing that game was his fault. I would say yes and no. You can say yes, it's his fault for throwing interceptions and the fumble and the fumbles. He was reckless with the ball. Yeah, he was trying to be Superman and he wasn't just being Superman. You can't just be like, just be Superman. I know. But like, he was doing the most during that game. Exactly. That's why I feel bad for him. Because he had to do everything. Okay. So the score was flip him and Sam Darnold and see what happens. I'll get into that. I actually have actually. Okay, I'll get into that. Okay. So Broncos beat the Bills 33 to 30 in OT. in OT. Man, the Broncos can't, can't win a game unless it's close. I will say this, least they have a winning culture. Bills might have won that game if the whole world knew what a catch was. Unfortunately, I'm at the point where I don't know what a catch is anymore because there isn't that game. And then there was the same situation in Seattle. Okay. Here's opinion. I'm listening. So it was Cooks, right? think. Brendan Cooks. So it Brendan Cooks and then J. Kwon Macmillan. Okay. intercepted it. Intercepted it. So Cooks is catching it, but it looked like he didn't survive hitting the ground. you have to survive the ground. He didn't survive the ground and and ⁓ McMillan it's McMillan. Jaquan McMillan. If he hadn't have been right there with his hands on the ball to snag it as soon as he bobbled it when he hit the ground it would have been an incompletion. The only reason it wasn't an incompletion was because it landed in his hands and he didn't drop it. Okay. The ball never touched the ground. There was no opportunity for a football move. There was no opportunity for a football move. He didn't survive the ground. Cough catches the ball, comes down. He has it. He hits the ground. All tiebreakers used to go to the offensive player though. Yeah, but I'm saying he never had control of it once he hit the ground. Well, it's It was just on top of him. True. And then he comes up with it. Like, McMillan comes up with it. But as he was still had possession of the ball, hits his knee. what should have been and he was being tackled now understand what you're saying. But at the same time, if it's on the sideline, and you do a toe tap, but then you hit the ground, it's not and you lose the ball. You are right. ⁓ It has to survive the ground. I just think it's just it just happening in real time. We don't know what it just looks sketchy because he landed lost it. But then the other guy He would have definitely had it and caught it. But he let it go enough that the other guy snagged it. Or it's because he got hit on, because obviously they're both coming down with the ball and Brendan Cooks is taking most of that fourth. So he almost got like suplex in a sense. You know what I mean? well, yeah, suplex to the point where his wins being knocked out of him. Right. Because the players would have been fine if he still held on to the ball. But then it got ripped out. I think the only reason they're talking this is being talked about like this. It's because the bulls lost. No, it's because it was an interception. If it wasn't an interception, it would have just and it was just an incomplete pass. Then it would have been a different story. It would have been a totally different story. everyone would have been like, Oh, yeah, he didn't catch it. Yeah. Like if he if instead of taking it from him, he just swatted it out of his hands, it'd be a different would have been a different story. Instead of swatting it out of his hands, he just kept it. So there was obviously that catch, not a catch, because there's controversy. I'm sure I'm going to get a catch sheet from this from somebody. Probably, probably. And then obviously we know the final score because I gave the opportunity for for Dallas, for Denver to go over and kick the field goal to make it 33. Yeah. I mean they still do march down the field. Yeah. Then we get the report earlier today that Sean McDermott gets fired. And now when we were talking earlier is that patience, patience. Josh Allen hasn't been Josh Allen without Shadmi Kern. Right? And I will say Kevin Sufanski and John Harbour are probably kicking themselves, but we'll get into that later. ⁓ I got an idea for their next coach though. Fair, ⁓ Get fired for all that he's been making Buffalo Bill. And unfortunately, Josh Allen has to be Superman for them to be even decent. The defense has been adequate. Hasn't great. But that's the problem. But the problem, my biggest problem is, okay, Sean McDermott has made Josh Allen who he is today. It's Not denying. The one thing fans, outside fans, and the critics were like, can you get him some help? Exactly. That's a GM thing. That's not a coach thing. Thank you. Unlike Mike Tomlin. Who has a who stepped down from Pittsburgh? Chobham Dern has been doing the most yeah with less And the only thing he has is a quarterback Mike Tomlin got everything else but a quarterback and we'll to able to have a winning season finally step down That's his story. He gets fired and This was the year that there was no Joe burrow Lamar Jackson ⁓ Like this should have been there But the person they should have fired was Gia. The problem is they're not building a championship team based on one person. You can't do that. I agree. I agree. There's no denying it. You're seeing all these other teams. Look at the other teams that are in the championships right now. A great example we could use is New England. You got New England. You got the Broncos, you got the Seahawks. All these are complete teams. And then you got the Rams who's there. They're a solid team. They're a solid team across the whole board. Exactly. Yes. Like you have to build it from the ground up. can't just be like, we got Superman. We don't have to do anything. Exactly. We'll just stack all our money on, on our quarterback. The running game is fine. Brandon Cooks is an adequate quarterback or wide receiver. Yes. Okay. But Cooks. Why is Cooks on the Bills? Because no one else wanted them. Exactly. Who else do they have? McKinnon? Oh, they drafted a guy, year. Yeah. Right. And they've had issues with him. He's not doing anything. They had an opportunity during... They had a chance to get Waddle on their team from Miami, but they didn't want to give up this year's pick. to get them. That's all it had to take. They didn't want to go and get them with that pet. They decided to hold off. Like they've had the GM has had multiple opportunities to build this. He's dropping the ball, but it's been, it's not Sean McDurden's fault. There's nothing that he's done. ⁓ They're going to feel, they're going to be feeling it. Well, I have a hot take for the later about Sean McDurden and where he should go and force himself into, but we'll talk about that after anything else you got for this game though. Okay, so here's another hot take. I'm They wouldn't have even gone into overtime. There was a passer, I think it was a pass interference. Yes. That shouldn't have, that should have gotten called. So it was a pass, yes. Buffalo's defense was offside or I believe it was offside or a pass interference. I remember what it was. There was a penalty that happened that made it possible for the Bills to tie it up and go into overtime. Broncos. Yeah, you're right. right. right. The Bills tied it up to go into overtime. And then obviously Josh Allen throws the interception. ⁓ then on that final drive, Bonix breaks up. breaks a bone in his ankle. Now he's out. If that penalty hadn't have happened, the Broncos would have won in regulation, bone nicks would be fine. That's a fun take. There's a what if for you. Wow. Wow. Good point. Good point. Bowling's gonna been saved if they play the ball properly. Okay. Yeah. And now, unfortunately, they're leaving the door wide open for New England. But, hey, it's any given Sunday still. So I hope so. ⁓ And it's funny because like, the Broncos are still winning tight games. And we've been saying We've been, I've been saying, you can't keep winning forever. This can't be sustainable. Yeah. And like next week it has to happen. I know you don't like it, but New England has to destroy them. Yeah. We'll see. It's honestly the way, the way he builds his team. I think. Jared Siddham might be okay. His Bo Nix isn't like insane. He's just the epitome of a game manager. Like he never goes crazy. He just does what he's supposed to do. Which if you have a good backup quarterback, New England's defense might not be ready for him. As long as it's who hasn't played. And the Patriots in championship games. have lost to a backup quarterback before. Yeah, that is as you can see, I'm not wearing any NFL related gear today. He's retired. I'm retired. My football season's over. I'm just watching for the entertainment aspect of it. So I get to rock my own company, my bookway apparel. So it is what it is. ⁓ yeah. Okay. Okay. So we're talking about that game. And then we flip it all for a little bit to the 49ers versus the Seahawks. man. When the Seahawks destroy the 49ers. That game was never close. But here's, here's a great take on, on the Seahawks versus the 49ers. Um, there was a play that started this game. It was a 95 yard return by Rashid Cheed on the opening kickoff. He returned it. to make it seven nothing. If the Seahawks really wanted to, they didn't have to do anything for the rest of the game. It's true. They would have won the game. the first like eight seconds. That is your biggest what if. All right. Park the bus after the kickoff because we know ⁓ the 49ers can't do a single thing in the office. As an athlete who's played sports for a long time. I know for a fact parking the bus is a terrible idea. But they could have theoretically theoretically the game was over. Yeah. The ball was kicked about man. But honestly this game just kind of shows shows you like Seattle has a young tough defense. It's also super cheap. I think they're like the 23rd most expensive defense. What does this defense remind you of? Legion of Boom, man. But this one is like different. Yeah. This one's like calculated. Legion of Boom was like, we're out to kill you. Like it reminded me of like the olden days of NFL. Yeah. Where it was just like the Ray Lewis days or like you might get a murder charge. But I think this is this is what happens when you have a really good defensive coordinator and they get to play a banged up offense for the third time this year. The second time in January and they beat them and didn't let them do anything last time. Well, yeah, the first time they played the four had three points. The Seattle Seahawks this time decided, you know, we'll be generous. We'll let you double it. You'll get six. Yeah. So we'll triple ours. Man, though, like, wow. Wow. Mike McDonald, you are an amazing coach. What you're doing with the Seattle Seahawks is fantastic and like understanding that your quarterback couldn't throw and he's injured right now and you took the necessary steps to make it so your team could ⁓ win without relying on your quarterback shows you how game planning is so key in the NFL or in any sport. Exactly. Right. That shows the patience of a coach knowing his team. and learning everything and being like, you can throw, we can run it. We can do this. We can do check downs. Like we don't have to put you in a situation where you're going to hurt yourself. I think he had like nine completions or something. It was like the least in a championship game since like Jimmy Garoppolo for the Niners, which is ironic. It's as of right now, the painting is being painted, ⁓ where it's going to be Seattle Seahawks versus New England. It's showing that story. ⁓ And unfortunately, I think it's an easier road for Seattle than it is going to be for New England. I mean, Drake May is also his second year. True. This is the first year that Sam Donald's on a team on the Seattle Seahawks. This is the first year. we all relate back to Minnesota when he was hot for the beginning of the season, couldn't finish it. Well, you don't have to finish it if the rest of your team picks it up. So there's that. Yeah, I think the Seahawks are just a complete team. Like they can execute on every level. Like they have their defense, they have great special teams, they have a passing game when they want to use it, they have a running game when they want to use it. They can beat you in so many different ways. And they can beat you fast. Sure. I would say that once they get ahead, they're not going to let you catch up. The 49ers have a lot of work to do. You have to fix their injury problem. It's becoming too much of a repeat offender. ⁓ It really is. But I think some of it comes to it comes down to like, obviously, there's some freak accidents. But I think it's in the back of the players minds as well. to like not do certain things maybe. So you're like trying to not get injured, but when you're trying to not get injured and the other guy's coming at you like freight train, you're focusing on not getting injured and he's focusing on killing you. You end up getting hit really hard. Because you're trying to get out of the way instead of just hitting back. But yeah, they definitely have some problems there and like they always have you the problem is So many people get injured and then they're all coming back from injury next year So but it's a different team by the next year because and then they lose a bunch of players like they're like The team that they duct tape together It's amazing how well they did Because they're just grasping at straws. Yeah They're starting to be too good at that though, but it's harming them because they are so close to winning a Super Bowl and then the injury bug just destroys them. Yeah. Yeah, this honestly, I felt like this could have been their year if they didn't get all these injuries. More about those if games, but I don't know. They were patient. Like we were talking about patience. They were patient last year. They, they stall what was happening and they're like, all right, let's retool regroup. And then I don't know what happened. They had like, obviously Devo left. I, here's the thing. Staying the same topic of patients. They retool their team accordingly because they realized. who they were, what they needed to do. And he did it in it. They didn't fire a lot of people. They got rid of contrast because that's how you can't because like can't keep everyone. Yeah. I feel like the only reason the Niners ever lose coaches, they don't fire them. They lose. They leave to go get another because of better job. Yes. It's because of how good you are with less. Yeah. Right. And when you, when people see that it's just like, okay, you're doing less with more at what point, at what point, like you could do that to my team with has even less than what you guys have. You build it up to that standard, but some teams just don't have enough patients to get to that point. But let's, let's flip it then. Okay. Texans versus the Patriots. We've been talking so much about the Patriots. might as well get, you mean returning it over over. And over and over over and over over and over over over over over over and and over and and over and and and over and and over and over and over over and over over over and over over and over and and over What just happened? And then you turn the other way and then you look back up like, they have the ball again. Does nobody punt? I don't understand what happened in that game. I don't understand. Well, I think it had a lot to do with the weather. It was a real cold day. Yes. And clearly some of these guys can't hold on to it when it's cold. like. People were obviously two really good defenses Defenses that are like aware that they need to step up like New England's defense obviously could step up because The Texans offense isn't as good as the Patriots offenses track, but The Texans defense did every single thing they could to keep them in that game One thing I'll say about the Patriots right now, from last year to this year, is the framework of what they've What a jump. I've never seen a rebuild so quick, so effective in a year. I know. Let me rephrase that, because it's not even a year. It's technically less than a year, because my friend got hired when, I would say, around this time, right? He would have got hired. Yeah. He probably would have got hired around Superbowl time or whatever. Yeah. Had some of the guys are ready, picked up a few. So technically in less than a year, he rebuilt the team to be a Superbowl team. Unless you were other coaches. All right. You know what? I need this piece. I need this piece. I need this. Well, look what happened to the to the Titans. He had them in the playoffs. They lose him. ⁓ Tanked can't even do anything. It shows you when a GM makes the wrong decision and says, ⁓ my coach is not getting me there. I'm going to fire him and get someone else to rebuild the team where my great bulls like, okay, I'll go to New England, build a team of how I want and instill my culture onto the team. What also helps because he has a lot of street cred there too. Well, he played there. Exactly. Yeah. So he will be able to give that. perspective to the athletes. Like, hey, I was a champion here. Let's go be champions. This is what I did. And he doesn't have to worry about the GM or the owner pressing down on them because he already has the culture. Yeah. Well, do you know what the first one of the first things they started practicing was? Victory formation. Exactly. We're like, no, I'm teaching you that we're going to be in this position a whole lot this year. That get used to it. That is huge though. Shit like doing a foot like doing that as your first play and still is like we're gonna be doing this so much That everything else is gonna lead up to this play and I'm make sure you guys know what you need to do You're like this is how we're gonna end every game. Yeah, and they proven it ⁓ But what's going on in Houston I I think CJ Stroud needs to take a step back and realize there's a reason he wasn't the number one pick. He's not the hero. He needs to learn to manage the game. When you have a defense like that, you need to learn how to manage the game. I agree. All you have to do when you have a defense like that, not turn the ball over. The one thing that- If you can just, because they were so good this whole time, because they weren't turning the ball over. Sure. Because even if they punt, they're going to get better position than you because they're probably going to make you go three and out or turn the ball over themselves. So a punt is better than, obviously a punt is better than a turnover, but it's all about possession. You don't have to tell me. understand that analytics can be wrong. Numbers can be wrong. I don't understand from CJ Stroud tore up the league in his rookie year to the point where like, all right, Houston made the right choice of not taking Bryce Young. I've seen more of a leap from Bryce Young than I have from CJ Stroud. And I asked you earlier, who was the OC for Houston when he first was in the league? Yeah. So the way I see it was it, what's his name? Bobby Sloan? When he first got in? Bobby Sloan. So he had him, he popped off his first year. He had his sophomore slump in the second year. Happened to everyone. They had some injuries. What did they do? They get rid of the OC and look what happens. I'd like to say, can you tell me who he's OCEing now for? But it's on a commercial right now. Oh yeah. Cause like Miami, who is in in the finals. The dolphin. Oh, sorry. The dolphin. The other Miami. Okay. The stadium that he's at. Yeah. know what I meant? And now his OCE is Nick Haley. Who was like a passing coordinator, tight end coach for the Rams under McVeigh. But we all know the mastermind is McVeigh. It's not the coordinators. Exactly. So. ⁓ fun. Here's a fun fact for you. What's the name? Both championship games. Head coaches. Yeah. It's Mike versus Sean. In both. Wow Wow, so you got Sean Payton Mike Rable and Mike McDonald and Shawn McVeigh that is weird a That's a script that's a script, okay, it's gonna be the the Mike and Sean bulls What sounds like Mike and shambles so true true true But the way it's shaping up, it's going to be Mike on Mike. ⁓ Well, I hope it's not Sean on Sean. Why not? I want one of the Mike's in. I want New England to win it. Why? It's more of a story for Mike Grable. True. If anyone deserves it, it's Mike Grable because of everything he went through through the Titans. Yeah, but also look at what McDermott? That just reminded me of the movie Remember the Titans. Sean McVay, or no, Sean Payton. Sean Payton. Too many Sean's. He's also thinking of Sean McDermott. But Sean Payton, look at the team that he took over. They're two years removed. from that massive dumb contract with Russell Wilson. Yeah, you're right. You're 100 % right. Like Broncos. Let's ride. ⁓ That didn't last long. What's this slogan in New York? I'm getting fired. ⁓ New York, please don't stab me. ⁓ I know for James Winston is it's Broadway. James, I don't know if he has a slogan. He has stretcher he says everything the man is perfect Rams versus the Bears the Bears Rams outlast the Bears and OT 20 to 17 that's a cold game freezing. Yeah, so beginning of the game they were talking about like what certain players were doing to keep warm for Matthew Stafford. Oh he wears a scuba suit. He wears a scuba suit which actually makes total sense. He played Detroit for so long. But it's in an arena. Okay but you still have to play Minnesota the Bears. The Bears you have to play them all the time. true. You have to play the Packers all the time. You have to play Minnesota all the time. All those are outside. The other One of the other players also said that he puts cayenne pepper in his socks because it helps regulate blood flow. Oh, interesting. So I was like, OK, that's a good thing. If I ever have to be a winter games and play football, I'll just put cayenne peppers in my socks now. Just whole peppers. Oh, just whole pepper. Hopefully you don't have any cuts on your feet. Oh, your feet are cracked and all. And make sure you moisturize before you do that. All right. So what's your take on this game though? I was shocked at how much they were throwing the ball. Because usually when the ball is this cold. You run. That's the formula. You run the ball when it's cold because no one can catch the ball because their hands are too cold. But even then like This was the one game that there weren't all these crazy fumbles in. It's true. And it was probably the coldest one. True. I was, I was amazed at how well Puka and Kyron Williams held on to the ball. Yep. Like obviously I know I'm talking about them passing the ball a lot, but like Kyron Williams did run into touchdowns. Puka and Kuwa got the ⁓ There were jet pass for one, was fantastic. Sean McVeigh, sorry. So many Sean's. many Sean's. ⁓ Sean McVeigh is a mastermind when it comes to offense. He's willing to experiment, but work with the team. And you can see it in full transparency during that game. But I can also say the same for Ben Johnson. Yeah. Looking at Caleb Williams and as he grew from the start of the season to now. it's night day like they're going to be they have a great future ahead of them. That took no patience. Yeah, that took. it took a lot of patience. Well, no, there was some growing pains at the beginning there. Understandable, understandable. But I mean, But that's what happens when you are patient and you're like, OK, let's let them let's work with them, see what his strengths are, work with them, work through that like they could have used Caleb Williams probably a lot more. Yeah. He didn't run him all until the fourth. They could have run him a lot more. But wait, I think Ben Johnson is still coordinating like he has got. But I'm going to touch that he doesn't know he has an athlete. Yeah, he has a complete studied athlete and I can't believe I said that about Caleb Williams. But he's got a cannon. Sometimes this may not be quite as accurate as it needs to be. True. But they were also dropped a lot of balls. Like when I say it, when I was saying the Rams didn't make many mistakes, they didn't turn the ball over and they didn't have any drops. Sure. Whereas Chicago, three interceptions, one to be fair was on a fourth. Yep. Like some of those interceptors are like, yes, technically there's three interceptions. I was like, Drake may had her is one interception at the end of half on a Hail Mary. Yeah. And the ends are like, don't really count it, but it's a stat. I kind of hate that it's a stat. Cause it doesn't tell you the full story. Exactly. But then so funny you say that. So it goes back, but that affects analytics, which everyone reads the analytics, but misses the context of those analytics. Exactly. So you're like, it's like, if I throw you the ball and you bobble it and it goes flying up in the air and someone else catches it, it's an interception. It's on me. But it was actually a bubble. But it's on a drop. that that being said, the Rams don't make mistakes that way. They were kept because they have hookah who's got sure hands. They got Kyron Williams. Sure hands. They got Devontae Adams, sure hands. Obviously their offense couldn't get rolling the way they wanted to in the weather. also got, Stafford got sacked like what? Like four times. Yeah. so they're kind of all over them there, but they, that's what happens when you don't turn the ball over. The Bears beat them in pretty much every major stat. turnovers. Except turnovers, fourth down percentage, which was, think the Rams only did one. Okay. But, ⁓ to three. Or one. Yeah. Yeah. And then what was the other one I wrote down? Penalties. Yeah. The, the penalties, the Rams only had one penalty for five yards. Versus three for 24 yards. Which is still really good. That's still, yeah. Like aside from those, three turnovers and between the turnovers and the drop passes, they would have blown them out of the water. Because Roma Dunze had a touchdown pass in his hands, didn't catch it in the end zone. Still blows my mind. Yeah. Still blows my mind. I would say though, the way Caleb Williams came back and tied that game up though, I was like, You know what? I'm okay with the Bears win this. yeah, that was crazy. It was fantastic. way he. It's exciting. It was to the point where the sky cam got twisted because it didn't know where Caleb Williams then had to reset and then the balls are already thrown. And then for some reason, craft is ⁓ yeah, it was crap was wide open in the end zone. Now there was talks that it was a little bit of a push off, but it was still unbelievable. Yeah. So I don't know man, like Caleb Williams has a bright future in the NFL. ⁓ Yeah, the Bears have, but this is what I mean. so the Bills season ended at the same time as the Bears season. The Bills have now lost hope. The fans are in shambles. It's a disaster. The Bears, Bears fans are like, all right. This was our first year with this head coach, second year with Caleb Williams. Look at us go. We have so much hope for the future. And that's going to ignite the fans. Those fans are going to be pissed. But those fans are only pissed off due to the fact that it's been how many years that Josh Owl has been Superman. exactly. And the team hasn't been built. They're starting to lose hope. They're starting to lose hope. Unlike John Harbaugh, where John Harbaugh wasn't using Derek Henry. He wasn't using the whole team and referring everything off to the OC, where Sean McDermott is doing less with more. He's doing the best he can with what they're giving him. You're just not giving him things. fired for something that he shouldn't be fired, where we all agree that the GM should be fired. If you're going to fire the coach, you have to fire the GM. Yeah. Right? Or is the GM going to hire the new coach and then the president's going to fire the GM? That doesn't make sense. Like we know the biggest issue is the GM. You can't drop well, right? You're probably not listening to your coaching staff properly. Like it's at that point where it's like, what's going on? Well, yeah, because your coaches are going to be like, we need this, this and this. Get me X, Y and Z or take it from another team. We're taking from obviously. They're asking me to change unless players really don't want to play in Buffalo and I get it. It's snowy. It's it's horrible sometimes. I understand that. But come on. Yeah, but I think that means if you it's same thing. Kind of deal with that with New England right now. Raeble wanted to go there because he was like, this is the weather you build a championship team in. Because the people that want to play here want to win. Because going out in the winter in that weather and losing sucks. Going out in that weather and winning makes you feel unreal. That's true. It's true. The only other thing I'll say is when it comes down to like the Buffalo Bills, if they kept their coach and fired the GM, we were so close to seeing a true former Josh Allen. Now he's got to retool to a new OC or new head coach that may want something different. Yeah. This might be the breaking point where Josh Allen may not win a Super Bowl. This is true. This is true. Right. Because what do you think? Who do you think your next coach is going to be? Well, I can tell you that John Harbaugh and Kevin Sifanski are probably kidding themselves. Well, yeah. That would have been the best job on the market. You think so? It would have been better than the Atlanta Falcons and it would have way better than the Giants. This, this job. feel like, see, I think, I still think the Giants is the best job. No, no. Okay. Just, just because you have Josh, but you run into the same problem they had before at the GM isn't giving you players. get, I get you. get you. go to the Giants and you have, a very cheap offense. You have all these players, you have a good draft pick, you can pick whoever you want. So you can fix any hole you want. And you're building something, you have time to, you can build a culture with all these younger players. Whereas if you go into Josh Allen's house, you're going into Josh Allen's house. That's that's what I see is different if I was the GM I would be calling Mike Tomlin Yes, I was gonna say Tomlin or Dable Wasn't he Josh Allen's quarterback coach for a while. Yes, he was Wasn't wasn't that Josh Allen's best years Sean No, he was so fingers days out then but that's when he got it all sorted out. Okay. Okay. Damn. But for Sean McDermott, this is, this is my hot take right now. bar. I love, I love this hot take. I actually would enjoy it mostly for the wrong reasons. I will say if I was Sean McDermott, I'd be calling Cincinnati bangles up right now. Yeah. Cause and what he can say is I've done less with more. You guys have more than I have ever had. He's also a defensive minded coach. Yep. Which is what bangles are weakened. I would love that. Now you, you bring up, you bring up the true side of Joe burrow fired. You bring them, you bring up the true fire in him. You bring up the beef to make them MVP quality with the weapons that he has. You have a coach that can build a defense cause that's what he's known for and you have a sure firehouse then Zach Taylor can go somewhere else. But like if I was the GM of the Bengals, seeing them like I'm on the call. I'm on the call. Hey, like would you be interested? so many crazy coaches available right now. Yeah. But yeah, I think the Bengals need to get on the program with the rest of their division and fire. Tells that top of conversation was not going like, you know what? Maybe I need to step down. I realize they've already said they're keeping him but like you can change your mind they can they definitely can but The Browns are not the well Mike Brown. Yep the owner. Yeah They're cheap Well, what I spend money when they have what I'm to do is still on contract I'm hoping to spread this enough to like Bengals fans so it gets to them. I'd love that Even though I'm an Eagles fan, I would have loved to see Sean McDermott on the Bengals more than any other team. I love him on the Eagles. Don't get me wrong. I know that's not happening. But if I look at another team where he needs to have success, it automatically is the Bengals because you'll have instant success. He would be like the Mike Brayboy. ⁓ 100 percent. And then Buffalo fans can cry because. If he was there, I'm telling you, goes with the Super Bowl next year. Nah, man, I'd love that. I like that take. I would say that right now. I like it because I don't want... Because you're a fan, but like... Well, and just don't want Zach Taylor anymore. No, and it's not even... Okay, so when it comes to patience, you're seeing progress. We had patience. You you see improvements. You're like, it may not happen this year, may not happen next year, may not happen... in two years, but I see an overall growth and happiness with the team. All I'm seeing now with Cincinnati Bengals fans, players is we didn't give enough and disappointment. I'm tired of seeing like I don't ever want to see that as a fan of a team. I'm not a of the Bengals and I'm seeing that. I'm just like there was no you guys aren't improving, but that's just my heartache. Yeah, I know it. It's hard to watch sometimes. But we're into the off season and that is our time to make not a lot or not enough moves. I agree with that statement. Scouting season, which is another bad season for us. What do you think about Mike Tomlin stepping down because we haven't really had a chance to talk about it? Well, I mean, I did say he was gone. I, but he stepped down. He didn't get fired because he's also frustrated. I'm surprised he didn't wait one more year, 20 years in Pittsburgh, but I get it there. What's the point? Yeah. He's, he's also way younger than you think he is. Yeah. So he's got time to make another 20 year run somewhere else. I'm curious to see who Pittsburgh gets as their coach because the franchise of the Steelers has only had three coaches. Which is ridiculous. And they've been around for like 60 years. Yeah, it's crazy. Just, yeah, it's nuts. ⁓ Being biased, I would like for it to be a minority. Okay, I saw... ⁓ Who was saying that? Yeah, I know. It's it's racist that he stepped down. They need to hire another black coach. No, they don't have to. I would just like to see it. Yeah, but like, OK, but if you're a Steelers fan. Yeah, I know, know, I know, I know. Like, come on, I got you, I got you, I got you. Who are you going to get? You're just knowing there's no one that I can automatically think of except for Eric Biondi. Yeah, that's the only coach. I think deserves to be a head coach somewhere. But other than that for the Steelers, it's not gonna happen. But like, I just think it's stupid that like, like I get it. But like, ⁓ for me, don't know, for me personally, it's, I look at from the concept of the reason he was, the reason he was a coach for so long, had nothing to do with his color, with his color, I agree. And everything to do with he doesn't lose. Exactly. Exactly. So when you bring in another coach just for that reason, you're like, how about we bring in a coach that doesn't lose instead? It's true. No. Yeah. ⁓ Cam Newton. Just be the coach. ⁓ God. Get it. Get it. Get it. But you know what I mean? Like it's there's not many colored coaches in the NFL. No. Right. So I'm not saying that they feelers need to. It's just it's also shows that, you know, some of the coaches who are equipped to be a coach shows that possibility for other people to be coaches. Yeah, it shows that door. Not saying the Steelers have to do it. I'm saying I think it's dumb to be to look at them and be like you guys need to replace him with this though, because like what do you mean? I don't mean that's not what I'm trying to get at. I'm glad I'm talking to you about this and you're agreeing with me. It's not that they have to. I would like to see more representation as long as it's a winning coach, as long as that person deserves it. The only coach right now that really deserves it is Eric Bainemi from Kansas City. He's not even in Kansas City anymore. He's in Washington now. I don't know. It is what it is. A little bit off topic. from our usual. Feel like we always get on topic, but that's okay. Well, we're always on top of her for sports podcast. Exactly. But, um, we, we just got another report today is something that has not happened for 21 years. Oh yeah. That one. So I kind of had to say this because this is the first year in 21 years that LeBron James will not be in the starting lineup of the NBA All-Star weekend. Uh, game. Join my heartache. I'm listening. It probably shouldn't have been in the last couple His thoughts are still amazing. Yeah, but I don't know I feel like To an extent he was getting all this on name alone and the longevity He still had the highest stats on the Lakers when he was on the spots in years. He still had the highest Yeah, they also didn't have too many other people but like I just mean like in the West You're saying he was the the best What position was he going getting a small board small board? He's the best small forward of the entire West Actually with his numbers here were because of how much they use them. I don't know. I just worry that When it comes to like those longevity stats like that It's gonna be ⁓ how come he didn't get it this year How could stats were good enough and he was he was injured from yeah a lot of it That's why you didn't get there. Is he second team? I think he is on the bench. He's on the bed. He's just not starting last year. He was a call up. So someone got, uh, so last year was a call up and got, and got into the starting lineup. Exactly. So that's what I mean. So last year is the only years it's like, Ooh, that's exactly what I was talking about. But this year we knew it probably wasn't going to happen, but there's always snubs. You're right. For longevity wise, it's tough. Because the only reason why in LeBron is the goat. Who got it ahead of him? I can't remember. Yeah, we'll have to look at that. I could see it being like, I don't know who got it ahead of him. I feel like you're looking it up right now. they could easily be like, ⁓ I'm injured. I hurt my leg in warmups. You go start instead of me. And then it'll be a big thing. That's what I'm picturing. But it just depends who it is. I'll tell you in a second. So in the West it's Luca Donchik, Steph Curry, Shai Gillius Alexander, Nicholas Jokic, and Victor Waminyana. So Shai took Lebron in. That's wild. She took LeBron, which is fitting, which is he's playing unreal. He's playing legendary. He is exactly. It's funny because when the MVP like cake, Lucas, the only non MVP and that started that starting five. Victor one yellow. yeah, I guess. Yeah, he'll get his. Yeah, both of them are probably going to get them. Yeah, you're not wrong. But then the thing is Anthony Edwards got snubbed. So he's not in the lineup. And it's like me personally, I look at that lineup and I was like, I don't think Anthony Edwards could have died in there because she is doing so much better compared to his average. Well, that's the thing with the Like it's also fan voting too. But these all-star snubs, I think it's silly because you're just like, there is 32 teams and we're talking about five spots and there's five spots. There's this is not the NFL. Yeah, we're talking about five spots, but each guy is only going for one spot against 32 other guys. Well, no only half. It's split between East West. 16 guys. Yes. So you have to be the best player in your position out of your entire... Your conference. conference. Whether it's East or West. So calling people a son, oh yeah, but like you could argue till you're blue in the face. Oh, for sure, for sure. It's the LeBron versus MJ debate. We can argue a case for everyone. I do like the way Anthony Edwards plays though, because he goes hard every game. He reminds me of Jordan so much, but... He'll never be the face of the league. I'm going to be He's also kind of obnoxious. True. I was great in that Adam Sandler movie. Who is he? That hustler, hustler. I haven't seen it. You haven't? No. Oh, is that a must? Yes. Okay. That is a basketball move. Basketball player move. Better than love and basketball. Yeah. I do not speak for my co-host. Also, I've never seen Love of Basketball. I do not speak for my co-host. Okay. What I will say is when it comes to the NBA, it's tough, right? Because stats lead a large majority of it. Fan voting leads another majority of it. ⁓ So we just also got that. ⁓ What's his name? Jalen Brown is going to be the first. All-star weekend. He's actually gonna be a part of So yeah, really? Yeah, this is his first also weekend ever been voted in as a starter That's crazy cuz like at one point I don't know if he still is but he had the biggest contract in the NBA Yeah, yeah and was not had never been an all-star That tells you how important he was for Jason Tatum. Yeah, so I see like I see that for 21 years We're not seeing LeBron there. Longevity plays a huge part We're still seeing him there. He's just not in the starting five. But what I'm saying is the torch is slowly being passed. Well, it's already been passed. I'm... Before we said Zan Williams, Anthony Edwards, Jean Morant, who are going to be the new faces of the league. And it's funny that it's going to probably be an international person. being the face of the league, which then means this may lead the NBA to be more global than American as much as a lot people hate that. It's going to be what the Dodgers are to baseball is what one of these athletes, whether it's Victor Yamidiana, you know, the Dodgers got another guy. Yeah. Yeah. Boca Shed signed with the Mets. Baseball is wild though, cause there's no salary cap. So teams can allocate accordingly. But Shohei Otani, his contract is worth more than the owner of the Marlins. Yes. Yes. That's insane. Yeah. Take that in, take that in. Yeah. it in. But what, what right now as we talk. But that, That shows you what a rich owner can do. Yeah. Because it's like how Sean Payton took over the Broncos and was speaking to Walmart and was like, hey, this guy sucks. Let's get him out of here. True. True. But we have this huge contract now. We'll just eat that. It's fine. We'll replace them and look at them now. What I'll say is with our podcast, we can talk about the range of sports. We can relate it to like life. We can relate it to everything. It's funny because there's so much going on right now in sports, whether it's NBA, NFL, NHL, where, well, this is prime time where the market is changing so much that it allows the doors for us to come in and speak our mind. And like for our viewers. Yeah. And you guys just get mad at me. Everything we're saying, you're probably saying, or you were thinking we just said it for you. This is this type of platform is ideal for this comedy like this this generation where podcasts are getting bigger and bigger and bigger and I'm glad that we're now in this space where we can just speak our mind about sports and like we're no game over podcast with Max Kullerman and Rich Paul. You love that podcast. Honestly, it's so good. But like we're not them where we have insight because we're not aging. don't have the ability to These are honest opinions and takes that you've come true on a few of them. ⁓ But everyone else is thinking it's just like a great platform for everyone. 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Well, on that note, we might as well catch up on the national game that's going on. I believe the score. Wait, what's the score? No, good. No, nothing for Indiana. Yeah. So I think we're going to watch part of this game. Is that going into the half? Looks like it's getting close. Yeah. Yeah. With three seconds left or something like that. So I'll say this, I want to say a huge thank you to Clubhouse for amazing venue and giving us a platform for us to show up every Monday and speak our minds. This place is a perfect location too. Oh, for sure, for sure. You got everything here. Whether it's starting your own podcast, whether it's coming here to do duck and bowling, I saw that they added a new attachment on the side. I got to see what that, think it's a little bit of a karaoke thing going on now. ⁓ on the side. Honestly, great staff here. Chris has been absolutely amazing. So I appreciate every single time we come here, we see his face. 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We will pivot so you might have a fight prep to talk about. I really have a few guests of mine lined up. I was trying to for you guys. I'll let you guys know in a future episode. We will get the first and take from Jason hackers about his debut fight. wants to be on the podcast. nice. Talk about it. ⁓ I have a buddy, Brad Todd foot. He wants to talk about domestic domestic violence, which is very huge and prominent in our world, especially in the sports world, especially in the sports world, especially in the sports world. So you will talk to him about getting them on a few people from MPT fitness. Yeah. Who want to get on talk about and promote punch out. But even just promoting that gym. Yes. They're doing great things over there. I can't deny it. can't deny it. So you know what? Because I'm a mix. I'm still boomers. I'm boomers all day. But I feel like the difference like with a small like smaller gym, you get that more personal approach. It's not as generic for everybody. They can spend extra time with people to prep them for things. I get you. If you have a massive gym, you're like, can't do this for you because then I have to do it for this guy, then I have to do it for this guy, this guy. You're not wrong. You're 100 % correct with that statement. It's not that personal touch. I always hear from the concept of the more eyes and more opinions you get, the better. The better you can be as a a well as a fighter. The more people, the more gyms that I'm a part of. tell me their perspective, I'll take it in and I digest it and I can apply it to my fight. Exactly. like, it's always better to be like. To an extent. It's great learning everything like that, but honing your skills. I guess kind of it's the whole big fish, small pond, or do you want to be a big fish in a small pond or a small fish in a big pond? I'm diverse. Yeah, you got to go back and forth because there's lessons to be learned both ways. It's true. You don't always want to be the big guy. for sure. For sure. Yeah. On that note, know our beers are done. We need to go and get a refill. Unfortunately, this is going to be slowly our last few beers. Yeah, I am. You're going cold turkey or you're going Buffalo. What's Buffalo? You're going to start tricky except for beer and wine. So like California sober. California sober or Buffalo sober. Buffalo sober. Buffalo sober so I just stopped drinking liquor. Basically. No, I don't know. I think this week coming up we got it. trainings we're gonna really start kicking off because a lot of like the little logistics things are out of the way and it's just gonna be now we're into grind mode so well we'll see what's gonna be good I'm excited honestly I'm looking forward to how this podcast transitions to the boxing community it's gonna be huge so like I said you can find us on Spotify and Instagram ⁓ and YouTube Apple Music. Apple Music as well. Our main ones are though Spotify and YouTube. 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