Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / Overview Of Female Biology Across The Lifespan
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- 0:05Hi everybody. Welcome to the doctor psych mom,
- 0:08show. Today, we're going to be talking
- 0:09about female biology across the lifespan putting together, a
- 0:12whole bunch of things I've already talked about and adding
- 0:16some more in, but a lot of guys kind of want this in one place.
- 0:20So they could really understand the impact of biology on
- 0:22hormones, on their wife psyche and her responsibilities and,
- 0:27you know, obviously her sexual desire or lack thereof, Etc.
- 0:31And you should definitely subscribe because tomorrow, I'm
- 0:33going to be talking about male. A g across the lifespan and
- 0:37that's a subscriber only episode.
- 0:39So you got to subscribe to hear about that.
- 0:43And if you are a guy that can also help, you understand what
- 0:46I've seen in my practice comes up at different stages in life.
- 0:50And also, to articulate, better things about yourself to your
- 0:54wife, like a lot of guys have, you know, really used my stuff,
- 0:58as a way to help fully understand and frame things that
- 1:02they've already kind of thought. But some guys, I don't know guy
- 1:06talks as much as me not some guys know guy does and probably
- 1:11and so the way that I can verbalize, things helps them to
- 1:15understand more about themselves things that they've only felt or
- 1:20maybe try to say to their wives, but they didn't have the
- 1:22language that their wife would understand.
- 1:24So anyway, subscribe to hear that.
- 1:27But today, we're focusing on female biology across the
- 1:30lifespan. So I'll tell you what, it's like
- 1:32to be a female, okay? You know, when a woman starts to
- 1:36get her period. So menarche, the first period
- 1:39that's around 12 could be like anywhere in your adolescence,
- 1:42but I think average age is 12. So that's one of the sex
- 1:45hormones turn on and the woman has estrogen progesterone and
- 1:51testosterone. A lot of people think women
- 1:53don't have testosterone. Of course, they do, that is the
- 1:56sex drive and, you know, being proactive and aggressive type of
- 1:59hormone and everybody has it when we just have a lot less of
- 2:03it than men do, but they still, Of it, it Peaks at 6, a.m.
- 2:06during the day and the other ones though, they don't change.
- 2:10Over the day, they change over the course of the month.
- 2:12The average monthly cycle of menstruation is 28 days with
- 2:17ovulation coming at the 14th day a lot of women when they start
- 2:21off when they're young. So your daughter if you have
- 2:23one, she doesn't maybe have a regular cycle, but but many
- 2:26women do, and if they don't, if it's really not a regular cycle,
- 2:30there may be other things at play, like polycystic, ovarian,
- 2:33syndrome, or endometriosis. Wife has either of those but
- 2:37overall women have regular monthly Cycles.
- 2:40However, now comes a big thing. A lot of women starting in
- 2:44adolescents or young 20s, start to go on hormonal birth control,
- 2:49you know, particularly oral contraceptives.
- 2:52So the pill, so if your wife is on the pill or if she was always
- 2:56on the pill and I say why would she always on the pill?
- 2:59She said she only slept with me, okay?
- 3:02But a like, yeah. Okay.
- 3:05I find that could be the truth, but also it's not just for
- 3:08contraception. It's also to regulate hormones.
- 3:11Because basically what it does is it makes your body think
- 3:14you're like in the early stages of pregnancy all the time, you
- 3:16don't ovulate anymore. So this can clear up some of
- 3:20skin problems, a lot of women in their adolescence, they have
- 3:24acne and that's because like, the hormones are not the.
- 3:28I mean, the hormones might be fine but they're just not in a
- 3:31good place for the skin. Maybe there's like too much
- 3:33testosterone to little estrogen. Whatever.
- 3:35So then they end up with with the oral contraceptives
- 3:39regulated so that the woman has the clear glowing skin of early
- 3:43pregnancy but she's not really pregnant.
- 3:46Just the body is tricked into not not ovulating and therefore
- 3:50not menstruating because if you don't ovulate, you know, so
- 3:54ovulation happens. I don't know how was like
- 3:57regular we need to get here but anyway, she doesn't menstruate.
- 4:02When she's on the pill. You may say yes, she does.
- 4:05When she's on the pill. Yes, she does.
- 4:07But it's a fake period. It's not like a real period.
- 4:10It's just it's when there's sugar pills in the pack so she
- 4:14doesn't have to menstruate when she's on the pill.
- 4:16This was just more common. In fact years ago that you would
- 4:19have your kind of fake period where you don't take the pills
- 4:23to the uterine lining that has built up for the baby.
- 4:27The baby that isn't there because she's not really
- 4:30pregnant, so that uterine lining builds up and up.
- 4:33And then you don't take the pill Like five days and then we're a
- 4:38week or whatever and then the uterine lining comes out so
- 4:41that's the period but it's not like a period in the natural
- 4:44sense that her body is deciding, when there's a period, it's made
- 4:48by the hormones that she's ingesting.
- 4:50So she doesn't have to have the period.
- 4:52So other types of pills, like they just don't do that week in
- 4:56the woman takes the same pill every day and so she never gets
- 4:59her period, and that's more common.
- 5:01Now, there's other types of hormonal birth control to, but
- 5:04the entire Higher. Point of why?
- 5:06I'm saying this is hormonal birth control, gets rid of the
- 5:10ovulation phase so therefore she may not have the same sex drive
- 5:15as she would have had. Otherwise this is a super big
- 5:18thing and I have friends that are in the situation and many
- 5:22client that they go off hormonal birth control that they were on
- 5:27from the early 20s or even before for their skin or what
- 5:30have you or to regulate their periods and Because as I just
- 5:36said, periods are super regular because they're not natural
- 5:38anymore. They just come when the pill
- 5:40tells them to come. And therefore, they could be
- 5:43predicted, which is important for young girls.
- 5:45But anyhow. So it doesn't allow you to
- 5:49ovulate that entire two-week window that I'm always talking
- 5:51about about when the body naturally wants to make a baby
- 5:55ramping, right up until usually the 14th day that isn't there.
- 6:00So the woman when she goes off, hormonal birth control
- 6:03frequently to make a baby. Maybe once she's married, she
- 6:07has a higher sex drive than she ever had before.
- 6:09And so a lot of women feel also their mood changes because
- 6:13there's a lot of mood effects of the different hormones in the
- 6:17pill. So a lot of women felt very
- 6:21moody and quote crazy when they took the birth control pill.
- 6:25I did myself when I try to many years ago.
- 6:27Really didn't like it felt bloated and Moody because again,
- 6:31it's like early pregnancy. So when women go Off of it.
- 6:36It's interesting. And this is something that you
- 6:38probably don't know. It's a guy if you're listening,
- 6:40maybe not as a woman, but a lot of women at that point, very
- 6:43much regret having been on the pill and they get mad and some
- 6:47of them get mad at the guy, which is really stupid kind of
- 6:51because he didn't know, I never heard of a man be, like, I'm not
- 6:54going to be with you unless you get on the pill and a woman not
- 6:57understanding at the very least that that's a big fucking red
- 7:00flag, you know. But most guys are just like, oh
- 7:04like Don't use condoms. Like do you, are you going on
- 7:07the pill? And that also happens by the
- 7:10way, that men say I will use condoms but she says, no, I'll
- 7:13go on the pill because many women don't trust condoms or
- 7:16what have you either way the couple decides because it seems
- 7:20like there's no side effects. It seems like okay, we'll just
- 7:23she'll just go on the pill and then we'll be able to be close.
- 7:26I could come inside her and, you know, don't have to use a condom
- 7:29but there are side effects. The side effects are just not
- 7:32frequently discussed and women have varying.
- 7:35Levels of these side effects. So many women have no idea what
- 7:40their sex drive would have been in there earlier life without
- 7:43the pill and so they regret it once they go off and they don't
- 7:47want to go back on it and then the man who then has to use
- 7:50condoms is annoyed because he thinks like what's the damn
- 7:53difference and she's trying to explain it and they don't
- 7:55remember any difference anyway. But I'm telling you, the
- 7:59difference. The differences that of course
- 8:00you feel many, many different things when your body isn't
- 8:04ordered a Officially in this state where you don't ovulate,
- 8:08you don't menstruate, then you feel more sometimes clear-headed
- 8:11less Moody and also you feel more sexual desire.
- 8:15So when I work with young women and they say they have no sexual
- 8:18desire, I frequently asked about birth control, and in, at least
- 8:21a few cases, when they've gone off, birth control, and they've
- 8:25done other methods of contraception, their sex, drive
- 8:28is a lot higher and sometimes, interestingly, their depression
- 8:31goes away. So, so that is interesting
- 8:34something to think about, even, You have a daughter and it's not
- 8:37just talking about you or your wife depending on who's
- 8:41listening to this. So, anyway, that's the period of
- 8:43a woman's life when she decides about birth control sex drive
- 8:47is, obviously I say obviously because to me, it's obvious but
- 8:51it's a lot of misinformation about this.
- 8:53Sex Drive is higher when you're most fertile.
- 8:57Whoa, like a fucking of course but there's this whole like
- 9:00media thing that some women have their sexual prime in their 40s.
- 9:05This different. This was women have feel more
- 9:08open more confident and for some women they're finally off the
- 9:12fucking birth control. As I just said, many times the
- 9:15husband's had a vasectomy or they themselves have just
- 9:18decided that they are never gonna have the baby.
- 9:20So maybe they have, you know, a different IUD that doesn't have
- 9:23hormones or whatever and they're more confident.
- 9:26They've done a lot more reading and thinking about what they
- 9:28want in bed, they've done a lot more you know, Psychotherapy and
- 9:33they are more confident. And finally, able to verbalize
- 9:36what they need and that is a mental switch that can make
- 9:40women feel like they are in their sexual prime, but your
- 9:44body. Isn't it sexual prime when
- 9:46you're younger child, of course, because evolutionarily, you're
- 9:50supposed to have a baby when you're younger as we know from
- 9:53rates of, you know, how successful pregnancies are at
- 9:56different ages, right to birth defect etcetera.
- 9:59So we're supposed to have babies.
- 10:03Obviously, when we were younger and that is when Both genders
- 10:06are more sexually responsive literally physically sexually
- 10:10responsive and a higher levels of Desire.
- 10:12But if Society has told a given, you know, gender women that it
- 10:17is slutty or bad to, you know, want sex.
- 10:21Then you're going to take in more of those messages and take
- 10:23them more to heart when you're younger.
- 10:25And when you're older, you may have slept off some of those
- 10:28societal constrictions. So you feel more sexually open.
- 10:32Mentally to is why many women initiate the Like open marriages
- 10:36or exploring kinks in their 40s. Another reason is because their
- 10:41physical sex drive has gone down.
- 10:44So they're trying to kind of wet the whistle there, by by trying
- 10:48new things. So, anyway, so let's go back to
- 10:52the Life Span. So we've got enough to the 20s.
- 10:54Women have high sex drive. They also don't want to have a
- 10:57baby, in many of them, start to have a baby when you're
- 10:59pregnant. Some women have a high sex
- 11:00drive, some women have a low sex drive, either way, you feel
- 11:03Moody and You feel, you know, fact and years a life inside of
- 11:10you. This can go either way, some
- 11:11women feel sexy when they're pregnant.
- 11:13Some women don't, this is also when a lot of women start to,
- 11:18you know, think about their body, as some strong life-giving
- 11:21machine and have for the first time their life good body image
- 11:24when they're pregnant. I've seen that too, not just bad
- 11:26body, image. Good body image the nursing
- 11:29time. However, when you're
- 11:30breastfeeding that's menopause for your body, you have the same
- 11:33sex drive as you doing, man. Pause because your body is
- 11:36saying don't have sex, don't make a new baby, you're already
- 11:40feeding a baby. Don't make a new baby, you
- 11:42already have a baby and that is a good lesson from your body
- 11:47because it is hard to have two babies, very close together,
- 11:51obviously. And in, you know, earlier times
- 11:54would really lower the chances of both of them survive it.
- 11:57Nowadays, you know, there's different kind of medical care
- 12:01and most babies survive. But when it was You know, back
- 12:05in the day before all of our technological advances, it would
- 12:10be much likelier to not have to baby survive if they came very
- 12:13close together. So while you're breastfeeding,
- 12:16many women don't even menstruate, but as soon as you
- 12:19stop breastfeeding through the night, then your body, no longer
- 12:22things, you have a small baby. So then your period comes back
- 12:26and your fertile again. So this is, it is totally normal
- 12:31to not want sex when you're breastfeeding.
- 12:33However, for the sake of your marriage, It's not totally
- 12:36normal if you breastfeed for two years which the American Academy
- 12:39of Pediatrics I believe now recommends to be celibate for
- 12:42two years. So that's one of those times
- 12:44where you want to kind of work on other ways to get your libido
- 12:48up or at least to be open to the idea of responsive desire.
- 12:52As a woman gets into her 30s, her 40s.
- 12:56So, so menopause happens a 52. I've tried to tell this a
- 13:00million times, that's the average age of menopause 10
- 13:03years before that you're looking at, 42 is perimenopause but
- 13:07things aren't like you know, things don't just happen one day
- 13:11and then ever before and Ever After.
- 13:13So from the minute you're born, you're dying the same with your
- 13:17hormones pretty much. So they turn on and puberty and
- 13:21then they go down. Until menopause, right?
- 13:23And then they kind of shut off in various ways.
- 13:26You really do not have a lot of estrogen and progesterone after
- 13:28menopause. So, in perimenopause, that's the
- 13:32in the 40s, a lot of women, feel a big decrease in biological
- 13:36desire, although maybe they may be more open-minded.
- 13:39As I just told you about because their hormones are beginning
- 13:43that steep decline, which they were beginning in the 30s to,
- 13:47but it wasn't as obvious for some people.
- 13:49It is obvious for some people, it's not So and also remember,
- 13:53women don't respect a lot about their levels of sexual desire
- 13:56until they feel like a big change like men you know like if
- 14:00they somehow don't get an erection, they're thinking about
- 14:03it for the next three weeks for women.
- 14:04It's like if you miss having an orgasm once it just means.
- 14:08Oh, that's called being female and, you know, that that's it,
- 14:12like a lot of women do not even work out some regularly enough
- 14:15to know if there's some sort of steep decline or certainly not
- 14:18an incremental declined and desire levels.
- 14:22So, in about the 40s, the women are going to feel more of these
- 14:25perimenopause symptoms ramping up, which means moodiness sex.
- 14:29Drive changes body changes changes in where your weight is
- 14:32stored around, you know, and your body or post menopause.
- 14:36It's more around the abdomen because you don't have as much
- 14:39of that estrogen making you into an hourglass anymore with a
- 14:42small waist and this stuff happens, you know, throughout
- 14:45the lifespan and many women who have prided themselves on being
- 14:49very fit and in shape And everything, they hit their 40s
- 14:53and their 50s. They're like, what the fuck, you
- 14:55know, I'm eating even less, like, exercising, even more.
- 14:57And the way it is just, I just looked different and yeah, Time
- 15:00Marches On like that is what happens.
- 15:02And this is when self-acceptance is really important and, and
- 15:07acceptance of your wife, is very important.
- 15:09If you're a guy listening to this because, you know, as I've
- 15:13tried to elucidate time is real. We are none of us Immortal and
- 15:19so, therefore, things are going to change Over the course of the
- 15:22Life Span. Now also in the 40s is very
- 15:26stressful time because you have all these kids usually and
- 15:29they're getting older, they're hitting preteen years 50s, 40s,
- 15:3350s, they hit teenage years for some people teen aging teen
- 15:38aging Parenting teenagers is considered the most stressful
- 15:41time of parenting according to any surveys and even more
- 15:45stressful than having toddlers or babies or anything.
- 15:48So, frequently women are Super stressed when they have
- 15:52teenagers but then when the teenagers leave the house,
- 15:54contrary to popular belief when women are empty, nesters and the
- 15:59data shows they actually get happier because day-to-day,
- 16:01they're not in conflict with somebody as so many people are
- 16:04with their teenagers. This is why many people do have
- 16:07some sort of small Renaissance of their sex life or their
- 16:10romantic life when their kids leave the house.
- 16:12Although again, this is going up against the very real decrease
- 16:16in female desire due to the attenuation of her hormones and
- 16:19any marital problems. Have been there underneath all
- 16:22these years, when the kids are out of the house and the 50s and
- 16:26Beyond, it's kind of hard to to continue to tell yourself that
- 16:31things are okay. Or we'll just deal with it
- 16:32later. When it's just you guys and
- 16:34there's no kids for distraction. So this is a time that many
- 16:38people come into counseling, is their late 40s or early 50s.
- 16:43Late 50s, you know. Etc, now menopause itself, I
- 16:47have a whole podcast on it, some women, you know, continue to
- 16:50want sex. Sometimes some women don't ever
- 16:53want sex again and I've discussed that in the menopause
- 16:55one. So we don't really need to get
- 16:57that into that big of, you know, don't need to dive too deep on
- 17:01that. But there are certainly
- 17:02variation and the couples that are more loving and accepting of
- 17:09one, another and themselves can be really very happy in their
- 17:14later years despite the fact that their bodies really work.
- 17:17Very little like they used to and I And I've talked about this
- 17:22before seeing a lot of times where the man wants to take
- 17:25Viagra so that he can in his mind, keep on having erections
- 17:28that are the same as he did when he was a younger man, but her
- 17:31vagina doesn't work the same. There's vaginal atrophy because
- 17:35of, you know estrogen going away which means that the thin skit
- 17:40the vaginas the skin the tickets thinner so it hurts you you know
- 17:44it's not plump like it used to be.
- 17:47And so there are many different kinds of sex that you can try.
- 17:51You know, involving not as much just straight-up penetration and
- 17:55that can be helpful. But again, if a woman literally
- 17:58doesn't have any desire at all and frequently I hear the
- 18:02phrase. I just feel like a totally
- 18:03different person now. I feel like the girl that I used
- 18:06to be like it's somebody that I knew it's like just not me
- 18:09anymore. If you're in that situation and
- 18:12your husband wants sex all the time with Viagra, you're going
- 18:15to come to an impasse usually and that would require empathy
- 18:19on both sides as I Scott so frequently in my podcast.
- 18:24So, layered upon this, by the way is that women struggle a lot
- 18:30more with depression. I say that all the time just
- 18:32want to make sure everybody knows that and within
- 18:35depression, your libido can go away and your general desire for
- 18:39romantic connection can go away and depression can always be
- 18:42treated. You know there's like real high
- 18:44rates of treatment-resistant depression because ironically if
- 18:48you're saying okay so depressions are libido.
- 18:50Killer what about antidepressants?
- 18:51Residents. Well, they're my friend is a
- 18:53libido killer because most women can't even orgasm on it that
- 18:56depressants and the rates of that have to be like way
- 19:01underreported, because it's like pretty much every woman I speak
- 19:06to not every but like Ro 3/4 women, I speak to on
- 19:09antidepressants, have a sex drive issue, but then it doesn't
- 19:13say that in the literature about antidepressants or in the, you
- 19:17know, the leaflet that you get, when you take them, it doesn't
- 19:20say that it's like up to Five percent.
- 19:21But I'm from what I see, the rates are much higher and I
- 19:25think why, is because they ask women like how often do you have
- 19:30sex? And they may still have sex but
- 19:32they're just not really feeling much down there or getting that
- 19:35excited or having an orgasm. So whereas like to ask men, how
- 19:40often do you have? Sex is a really good indicator
- 19:42of their sexual desire because you need to have an erection to
- 19:46have sex because what we think of as sex is intercourse.
- 19:49And if we expand that definition to be Like can you have an
- 19:53orgasm? A lot of males on
- 19:54antidepressants can't, by the way have an orgasm, although
- 19:57they could still get hard. But women it's like, they're
- 20:00like almost like barely there when they're taking
- 20:02antidepressants because their desires solo, but they are
- 20:05there. So if I have a video camera
- 20:08would see them having sex, they may have be having sex like once
- 20:11a week still. So if that's what a provider
- 20:14asks in a research study about the effect of let's say Zoloft
- 20:17on sex drive woman may still say yes and having sex once a week.
- 20:21Yes. Time.
- 20:22But that may mean I am, you know, basically showing up and
- 20:27spreading my legs once a week. And I feel absolutely nothing.
- 20:30And I'm not further from having an orgasm, I cannot imagine
- 20:34being further from it, unless I was in the middle of a dental
- 20:36exam, so, you know, that's just a little psycho Ed on the
- 20:41psychoeducation meanings, education about psychological
- 20:44things about antidepressants effect on your wife's will be do
- 20:49and so that's important information.
- 20:51Nation. And that doesn't mean you
- 20:52shouldn't try an antidepressant, but you got to know is it's a
- 20:55cost-benefit analysis, for many people and something that you
- 20:58need to talk about your provider.
- 21:00But depression can come at any time, particularly postpartum.
- 21:03And also in the premenopausal time when hormones are
- 21:07fluctuating a lot and so depression is a major player in
- 21:11the biology of many, many more women than people realize.
- 21:16All right. So hopefully this was somewhat
- 21:20instructive to To you. And you learned at least one new
- 21:23nugget of information and I'll talk to you soon.
- 21:25Bye.