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Christmas Special | MindSets Podcast | Episode 72 · The MindSets Podcast

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  Hello, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.
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  Welcome back to our Mindsets podcast.
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  I'm joined here by my elf Charles.
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  You're looking very festive. I am, yeah.
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  I've made a big effort. Yeah, this is apparently from
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  the elf costume. The official Buddy the Elf
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  costume rate that a lot. The elf spent a bunch of money.
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  Off the the Father Christmas look, my hat's not really
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  playing ball. It is, actually.
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  It does say Coca-Cola on the bat if I decided to hide.
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  Because they're not paying for this.
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  No. And and you know, most people
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  are listening so they wouldn't know that anyway.
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  Today is. Don't mean just they're
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  listening. They're they're definitely
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  missing out on the. Today is the one to watch if you
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  haven't watched. Before you can actually see my
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  eyes for once. Yeah, we've decorated the whole
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  thing like this is this is lovely, warm, wholesome, all of
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  that. But we've got a lot coming up.
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  We promised in the last episode we'd be doing multiple games.
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  We'd be having a lot of fun with growing my gears.
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  You guys have been really good this week and actually like
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  sending us some things about the sort of New Year's Christmas
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  period that annoy you. And I am ready to expose some of
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  you, not expose others of you that requested to be anonymous.
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  So first of all, we're going to start as usual.
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  We're going to talk about what's happened, what's been going on.
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  Do you want to? Take lots of I think we'll focus
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  mainly on the Elite 15 races in Melbourne that happened last
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  weekend. Yeah, so it was a classic major.
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  You had the solos on day one and double s on day 2.
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  And I mean. There were some good races like,
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  some really good like and exciting races.
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  Yeah, I think it's that's one of the first times that I've been
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  really honestly excited to watch High Rocks.
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  Yes, I completely agree. And with the women's race,
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  again, we were starting to see the impact of the penalties and
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  then also coming into the end. I mean, first of all, it's still
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  top two, yeah, still pretty consistent, but they're having a
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  good race with each other. But I think the the sort of 3rd
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  to 7th is really where the racing's going on.
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  Obviously great sea. Lucy Proctor, yeah, amazing
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  qualification. And again, she seems to finish
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  really, really strong, which is great.
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  There's so many strong English athletes or British athletes as
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  well that's consistent from the double S and the solos, both men
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  and women, which is really cool to see as well.
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  And I think that's another reason why I get so excited
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  about watching it. But it's also like it's
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  definitely developed over the last couple of years as an
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  actual spectacle to watch with the farmers carry around the run
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  loop as well. And yeah, I mean, it was, it was
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  really fun to watch. I think one of the things that I
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  remember us kind of slating or questioning at the beginning of
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  this season was putting the penalty at the end and making
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  them stay in the same bin, basically.
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  But it is a great viewing, yeah. I'm I'm I'm a bit upset that
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  isn't like a designated sin bin slash naughty step.
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  They just have to stand in their warble section.
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  Yeah, yeah, the, the, the, the Tim Vienish, Hunter McIntyre,
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  that was, that was a good spec. I think that one of the
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  interesting quotes, Hunter's very, very good at beating
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  himself up before every, every race, which is, I think, part of
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  his mind game, part of a confidence thing for himself
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  going into that race. He made it very explicitly clear
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  that the only person he had to worry about was Tim and himself.
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  And if he dealt with himself, then Tim would have been dealt
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  with as well. And in fairness, like, it's
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  probably the least comfortable I've seen him racing.
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  He looked like he was giving everything.
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  He was really twitching hard. Yeah.
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  And if you're not considering the two penalties, then, yeah,
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  he went quicker. But you could see Tim in that
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  last 15 seconds when Teen Hunter had like done a lot of hobble,
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  took a couple of extra breaks and toyed with him because
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  they've had a back and forth. Tiny Tim is the nickname that
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  has given him. But incredible race from both of
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  them. And then friend of the show,
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  genuine loyal listener. So I hope that he's listened to
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  this 1C. Unbelievable, unbelievable
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  emotional finish man. Like like seeing the hard work
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  pay off. So I watched the race live and I
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  hope Charlie doesn't mind me saying this because he knows I
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  massively respect him. But going into the last couple
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  of stations but I was so gassed for him because he was doing so
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  well and he was just climbing. But I was like, he might come
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  top five in his first ever early 15 years Which?
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  Is would being. Incredible.
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  That's incredible. But I like, I had written him
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  off. I was excited to see Sean Noble
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  maybe qualify because he was, you know, up there at the
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  beginning and it was, it was looking for a really good race.
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  And then I saw Charlie did come in to the wool balls in 4/4
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  right? And I was thinking, Oh well,
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  like I. Mean he's he's done some
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  hustling on the lunges. Like he hustled.
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  Yeah, yeah. And then I'm, I'm going to
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  butcher his name. Is it Van Zeeland?
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  Yeah. So Van Zeeland, who's also
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  British, came and also ran an incredible race, his first Elite
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  15 race as well. And and also I, I don't want to
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  be misquoted, but he's only recently.
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  He's I think like his first pro sub 60 was only in the summer or
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  something like that earlier this year.
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  So it's like the rise from, oh, I'm quite good at this to now
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  I'm racing at Elite 15 has happened over the course of a
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  couple of months. Like he's obviously ridiculously
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  talented and and very. Fierce.
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  It's tough because when you're in that environment again, like
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  you can, you can push so hard because you're racing against
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  the very, very top. And for those other athletes,
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  Hunter, Tim, Sean Noble, who have done quite a few Elite 15
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  races, they know how to pay some Elite 15 race better.
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  So maybe he, yeah, a little bit too much before the wool wolves
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  because I imagine that he's done wool wolves God knows how many
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  times. It's not like it's a weak
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  station that he knows about. But then, yeah, it started to
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  get a bit exciting that we obviously watched the drama of
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  Hunter having to sit there in his sin bin and Tim finishing
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  and then Hunter finishing. And it was nice to see Hunter
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  still up there as well. And then all of a sudden, you
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  just start to see that that that gap that was like 18 warbles
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  when Charlie came into the warbles was now like down to
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  four. And it was still like, OK, well,
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  Runzini's going to win. Yeah, it's fine.
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  I even, I even thought that all the way up until like 92 warbles
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  or something and then he dropped and Charlie was like, well, I
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  can see how many are on and I'm just going to drop and I'm going
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  to beat you to 100. The other, the other, The other
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  thing is that I think one of the big focus that Charlie has
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  spoken about in his wobble training is what thinking about
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  the cadence. So have you seen on the wobble
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  targets this year, not only have they got your count and if it's
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  a no Rep and they tell you how many no reps you've had, but you
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  can see the time between each wobble.
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  So I think Charlie pays relatively close attention to
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  that as an indicator of when to take a rest.
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  So when he was coming towards the end, I was like, I, I, I
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  really hope it's fine, but he's not moving that quick.
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  He took that short rest and again, it looked like Van
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  Zeeland was going to take his rest and then carry on and win.
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  But he rested clearly just long enough and ground out the last.
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  What was it 1015 Rep something like that and and took it over
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  the line and the reaction was everything that was amazing,
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  honestly amazing. And he was just shunned like
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  crazy big time. But couldn't be more proud for
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  him and also couldn't be more deserved for someone who just
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  like works so hard day in day out consistently.
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  I think there'll be a lot of people that question how quickly
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  he's arisen within the sport. I don't think a a lot of people
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  would question if they saw the training sessions.
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  I mean, he posts about them on his story quite, quite
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  transparently sometimes, but just the sheer dedication to do
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  horrible sessions and, and, and not even horrible.
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  Like, he's very, very good at keeping the easy sessions easy,
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  but the easy sessions are staring at all four hours just
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  totally legs open. And he does that probably better
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  than anyone. So as an insight on one of his
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  more recovery based days, 4 hours on AC2 bike in the
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  morning, two to three hours on a cross trainer in the evening or
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  or on a stepper which is just crazy.
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  I also the, the thing that I, I most respect is like he's such
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  an advocate for the sport of high rocks and he is just
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  genuinely a nice guy. And you see him at a high rocks
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  race when he's going and he's there to do a job.
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  He's got sponsors behind him. He's going to try and perform at
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  his best so he can qualify for Elite 15 races, all the rest of
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  it. But he still has time to smile
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  at anyone. It doesn't matter who they are,
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  what their level is, if he knows them or not, he has time for
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  everyone. And I think that's like such a
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  valuable asset for the sport of high rocks, so.
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  If you're listening, if you're listening to the podcast and you
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  don't know Charlie was on the podcast beforehand, it is now
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  unbelievable to go back and listen to that episode because
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  that was 18 months ago, before anyone knew who Charlie was
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  other than the kid that weirdly raced probably a little bit too
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  much. But even then, people didn't
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  know him for that. He'd done one quick double s
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  time with Jake Williamson, I think they didn't open double s.
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  And it was like 5455 minutes, which he's now beating on his
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  own. And they've done a pro double s
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  in 49 minutes. So it's, it's crazy to see,
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  Yeah, how he's built. And then that was just day one,
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  Day 2 again, we had another excellent double s race from the
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  women and Lucy and Sinead doing Lucy and Sinead things, killing
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  it. And then back to the double s.
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  Now if we're going to talk about Charlie again, we need to talk
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  about Ollie, who quite frankly was seen as a bit of a hand
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  break to Charlie in the in the race in Hamburg, which he was
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  exposed for as an insight as well.
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  Ollie's been on the podcast. I know Ollie relatively well.
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  Not been the best couple of months of his life.
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  It's been a very downward spiral, hard to control.
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  But from those that have listened to that episode will
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  know if anyone can probably handle that.
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  Not that it was easy to, but he's the kind of guy to be able
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  to stick himself out. And that is exactly what I saw.
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  They changed up the strategy. They leant on Charlie a bit more
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  on the stations and enabled Ollie to set the pace.
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  But Ollie has been getting running specific coaching,
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  working very, very hard on it. And I think they run the third
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  fastest run splits from the the the.
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  Tactics where Ollie was pacing Charlie on the runs and it was
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  kind of that's that's how they're going to go.
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  He just set the pace and Charlie sits in and then.
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  And even then they were they were probably middle of the
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  field until the lunges. And then again, for those that
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  know Ollie know that lunges is something he loves quite
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  sadistically. And and Charlie again, we saw
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  his performance on the night before get on lunges.
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  So they they made-up so much time, came into the Woobles and
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  got the job done. This time they didn't have a
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  penalty, which they also they did come into the woobles second
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  in Hamburg. They had their penalty and
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  they've crossed the line. So unbelievable weekend.
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  Yeah, it's crazy. The Brits all round here or
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  early 15 should be very I. I think the one thing that like
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  shocks me always, but through consistent through the women's
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  field and the men's field is just like the ability to recover
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  and then repeatability. Like they can just do an elite
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  solo race and then come in the next day and then race elite
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  double S again. Question.
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  Ridiculous. Do you think that should be
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  changed? And second question as a follow
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  up, do you think over time as harass continues to grow, more
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  athletes will choose one because it all gets so?
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  Competitive, there'll be more depth of field I'm sure and
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  there'll be more competition to qualify for elite solo versus
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  elite double s. I'm that's an interesting
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  question on the scheduling. I, I can't answer that now.
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  Like they demonstrate that it can be done back-to-back and
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  they can perform at a ridiculous level back-to-back.
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  Is it ideal? Probably not.
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  You look at any other elite level sport, there's very few
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  where they'll do 2 hard efforts one day after the other.
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  I'm trying to think in in athletics might be a good
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  example where they do rounds for the 200 meters across a couple
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  of days and then the final and the weekend.
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  I never, I don't think there's ever back-to-back days and
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  that's like a 22nd effort versus a an hour effort or something
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  like that. So I'd be interested to note, I
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  mean there's, there's probably reasoning around why this it's
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  scheduled like that. The the only reason that I sort
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  of asked the question is over this week.
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  I was thinking about tennis and, and in tennis you've got double
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  s and you've got singles and not very often.
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  I mean, it happens very often. Do you see the the champion of
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  the singles also be a champion of double s?
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  Unless you're Serena Williams, That's a really Murray's done
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  it. That's a really interesting
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  point actually. But like, that's because tennis
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  is such a developed game that the the strategy and the
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  tactics, there are players that are far better suited and
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  therefore prioritise double s or singles over the other, but can
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  still be good at the other one, but not necessarily worth.
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  I mean, that's the talk. I think we take it away from the
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  Christmas special and just start talking really specific about
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  high rocks. But it's interesting that you
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  mentioned that like you, you can be a specialist in double S
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  tennis or a specialist in in playing on by yourself.
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  You look at Tim Vienish, the guy goes and wins solos, but then
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  look at their performance in double s.
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  It's such an interesting like where were they in the double s?
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  Were they like 7th or? Something that that's the only
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  thing is, is Tim's double S partner is Ronchevich.
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  And. So he raced with the different
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  parts of this time. I think it was just a bit of run
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  out. I also have a bit of a pet peeve
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  about that. If you're really qualified, GAO.
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  If you're not racing with the same partner, GAO.
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  Yeah, I, I, I kind of. Someone else's didn't.
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  Somewhat agree and there's opportunity for maybe someone
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  else to race there, but also when you look at this as a
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  professional sport, they've got to make their money somehow and
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  if there's an opportunity to make money and and that's why,
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  for example, Jake Williamson, he had already qualified, but why
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  would you not race? It's an opportunity to go to
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  Melbourne, race, get your sponsors in front of the cameras
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  and also win some money. So it's like I understand you,
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  there's like, but this is basically.
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  The thing that's interesting about the sport is we've seen it
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  go from almost like village cricket to like a pro league.
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  And you have to understand that it athletes approach like a pro
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  league. And if you're not used to
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  watching it like that, even now, I'm looking back to my question
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  or my point about Tim and I'm like, why did I even think that?
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  Obviously that's yeah, that's fair.
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  Yeah, yeah. But maybe also he's very, very
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  good at working a certain stimulus or certain like time
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  domain by himself. It's very continuous, the
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  effort. And as a result, there's no real
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  like specific spikes in intensity.
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  Whereas in double s, the running's probably fairly
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  similar, but you do the station work much faster.
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  So that spike of intensity, maybe he's not as adapted to
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  that as an athlete, but it's, it's really interesting to see
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  the the kind of how that is changed between running by
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  yourself and running in double s.
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  Yeah, well, let's let's park it there.
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  Let's park it there for fireworks for now for those that
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  have been listening on two time speed or just skipped ahead now
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  it's the time to stop. So something else that I found
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  out about this week that I think is really interesting, famous, I
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  mean well known gymnast within the UK, Max Whitlock making a
• 14:47
  comeback, is it? He's returning for well, to make
• 14:51
  an attempt for the Olympics 2028.
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  So he's been a three time Olympic and world champion.
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  He's looking to come back for LA 28.
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  Some inside and. Holding on some inside
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  knowledge, Yeah, I had the pleasure of actually meeting him
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  earlier this. Week How old is he?
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  Old enough, apparently, to have a wife and children.
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  OK, that means nothing. It doesn't mean an awful lot.
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  I'm going to say like similar age to us, if not a few years
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  older. Which was what's his speciality
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  again? He's a pommel, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, which was actually something that he spoke about
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  was really funny. He was doing a shoot with
• 15:22
  someone else because this was a shoot with Ronald that I got to
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  meet him on, but he was doing a shoot with someone else.
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  I think it was like BT and they got Oh Sky and they got him to
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  get on the pommel horse and they asked him to do loads of stuff.
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  And then they moved angle and they asked him to do the stuff.
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  And he was like, guys, I know, I know you think I'm incredible as
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  an athlete. Like, this is really hard.
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  Can I have a rest? Which is really fun.
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  But yeah, so interesting to see how he tells him his training
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  because he let's not go back there.
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  But he did a couple of high rocks earlier this year.
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  He's got into running, which is the whole he was involved with
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  runner. But yeah, very interested to see
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  how he gets on. Give him a lot of support.
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  Now we're going to move on to the first sort of game.
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  This is our last episode that will go out before the end of
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  the year. That's crazy.
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  That is crazy in a year. You've been on the podcast for a
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  year. I know that's mad.
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  I'm still here. You are still.
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  We're going to see because this is pretty much your Dick.
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  OK, cool. So we're going to, we're going
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  to go with a year. Review year, is it?
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  Is it a year of review of the podcast?
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  No. OK.
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  It's a 2025 Sport Quick fire answer question review This is
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  15 questions. OK, so we're going to start off
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  with who won the 2025 FA Cup final?
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  Is it a Manchester City, B Crystal Palace, C Chelsea or D
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  Arsenal? I'm going a Man City.
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  Incorrect. It was Crystal Palace.
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  They beat Man City one nil. Shut up.
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  Yeah. I know my football.
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  OK right, good start. Which club won their first ever
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  UEFA Champions League title in 2025?
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  We will move away from football after.
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  OK, Is it a German team? No, it's not British, I'll give
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  you that. OK, I'm going to go with Ajax.
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  No, Paris Saint Germain, I was going to go.
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  PSG but I was, I was. I've seen they'd have probably
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  already won it. And who won the Super Bowl in
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  2025? Is this meant to be quick for
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  it? Give me one second.
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  OK, They was it the Eagles not done?
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  Do they beat the Chiefs? They.
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  Beat the Chiefs 40 to 22 in the NB in the 2025 NBA Finals.
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  Which team became champion? Lakers?
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  No, it was the Oklahoma City Thunder defeating the Pacers in
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  game seven. Went all the way to the end.
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  This is going terribly. Which player was named NBA Cup
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  MVP in 2025 as the Knicks won the Cup?
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  That's not good for me. I know only.
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  This is a tough question, to be fair.
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  Are they American? Yes.
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  I'm I'm just going to have to go with Steph Curry, even though.
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  Yeah. It's not good.
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  It's not a good I. Don't know if you'll if you'll
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  know Jalen Branson. No, no.
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  OK, cool. Who won the 2025 Ryder Cup?
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  Europe, do you? Do you remember what the score
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  was? Oh no, don't ask me that. 1513
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  Europe won. I know they also racked up like
• 18:33
  A20K bar tab afterwards or no, It was like it was like 20 K
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  each player or something some year.
• 18:39
  Yeah, that would have been a good question.
• 18:43
  OK. In the 2025 FIFA Best Awards, he
• 18:46
  was named Men's Player of the Year.
• 18:54
  Was it the young Spanish kid Jamal?
• 18:58
  No, no. He very good though.
• 19:00
  But it was Usman Dembele. How?
• 19:03
  How is that very good? Well, it's a great play.
• 19:06
  He was OK. He was up there.
• 19:07
  Yeah, OK. It's better than just saying
• 19:10
  Ronaldo. Yeah, much better, although he's
• 19:12
  still actually also up. There, 2026, I'm coming in hot
• 19:15
  with some football knowledge. You you just wait.
• 19:18
  In in the 2025 ICC Champions Trophy final, which country won?
• 19:25
  That's cricket for anyone that doesn't know what ICC is.
• 19:31
  It's not England. It's not.
• 19:33
  Is it West Indies? No, it was India being New
• 19:37
  Zealand by 4 wickets. How?
• 19:38
  Useless man. OK.
• 19:43
  You're like this question is too hard for you.
• 19:45
  Which player won the 2025 WTA Finals in dominant fashion?
• 19:51
  Woman. I've got no idea it.
• 19:59
  Was Elena Rabakina. I I don't, I wasn't going to
• 20:02
  guess that. OK.
• 20:03
  Fair enough. I'm just looking through these
• 20:06
  last questions. I'm going to be honest.
• 20:07
  I had some help generating this quiz from our sincere friend
• 20:11
  ChatGPT, and I think that somebody is too hard.
• 20:14
  What I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you one more.
• 20:19
  Based off my current current position on the quiz, so these
• 20:22
  are too hard. Which or or who set the second
• 20:26
  fastest time in history this year in the 400 metres at the
• 20:30
  2025 World Athletics Championships?
• 20:38
  That's really tough for me. I can't remember his name.
• 20:43
  I believe we're looking for a woman.
• 20:44
  Oh, really? Yeah.
• 20:45
  OK. Oh, that might have helped.
• 20:49
  Yeah, she's American. Yeah, she's double barrelled
• 20:53
  surname. Correct.
• 20:55
  What's your half point for that? What if I was to tell you that
• 20:58
  her first name is a capital city of a different country?
• 21:02
  Sidney McLaughlin nailed it. Very good.
• 21:06
  OK, you get that one. One last question.
• 21:08
  Threw me off because I was, I was thinking for a man.
• 21:10
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry.
• 21:12
  So last question, I'm going to give you one more.
• 21:16
  There was a milestone in ultra running broken this year.
• 21:20
  What was the time that was beaten for the said distance?
• 21:23
  So the 100K world record, what was the time?
• 21:27
  What? Was the goal time for the 100K
• 21:29
  world record? It was sub breaking 4 bloody
• 21:46
  hell. No. 87916. 6 4 would be mental.
• 21:53
  Because I know why. That's also breaking the two
• 21:56
  hour 2 hour marathon, but twice and a half again.
• 22:01
  Yeah, OK, cool. So.
• 22:03
  I'm sure you all did better than me.
• 22:05
  Some of them, there'll be some people that don't have a what's
• 22:08
  going on in football, to be fair.
• 22:09
  So we've gone from one extreme of high rocks to 1 extreme of
• 22:12
  football. Let's bring it back.
• 22:14
  We are going into possibly the juiciest section of this
• 22:18
  podcast. It will be for sure.
• 22:20
  Grind my gears and grind my gears.
• 22:22
  This time is more about the festive period as well as
• 22:26
  fitness a little bit. And I'm going to let you kick
• 22:28
  off because I know you've got some that are fitness specific,
• 22:30
  not necessary festive specific. I needed to premise before we
• 22:35
  started. I was like, I don't really have
• 22:37
  any festive grind my gears. I'm not really big into the
• 22:40
  festive period, but I don't have any.
• 22:42
  And and then I was like, oh, I have one grind my gear.
• 22:45
  You just assumed that it was fitness.
• 22:47
  It's not even fitness related. I didn't think you had anything
• 22:50
  else about your personality. Shock No, When when I tell you
• 22:53
  you'll be like, oh, that's the other thing he does.
• 22:56
  I don't like it when people call flat whites flatties.
• 23:00
  I. Didn't know that was a thing.
• 23:02
  I wish it wasn't a couple of flatties.
• 23:04
  I'll have flatty please. I know flatty.
• 23:07
  No no it doesn't do that for me. So not fitness related, coffee
• 23:10
  related and it really grinds my gears.
• 23:12
  That's because all you drink is flat.
• 23:13
  White isn't. It and then people post it on
• 23:15
  their story like, oh, delicious flatty.
• 23:18
  Yeah, exactly. That's the that's the noise,
• 23:20
  that's the sound effect I make every time I see someone post.
• 23:22
  Gonna have a delicious flatty. Not on my Friday night at the
• 23:25
  bar. Yeah, nice.
• 23:27
  Had a yap. Yeah, had a yap.
• 23:29
  OK, so I'm going straight in with festive stuff.
• 23:33
  I'm sure. OK, so I'm going to start off
• 23:34
  with myself. Calendars, OK.
• 23:39
  People these these annoy you. These two annoy me.
• 23:42
  These are about calendars. Not about you specifically, no.
• 23:45
  People that. Eat their calendars early.
• 23:49
  What are you doing? What is the point?
• 23:51
  Yeah, yeah. We get this once a year and
• 23:53
  you've ruined it. And the second thing is people
• 23:57
  that RIP the doors off intentionally.
• 24:00
  You can't RIP the door. If it happens by accident,
• 24:02
  that's on the build quality of the manufacturer.
• 24:04
  But like, you can't be peeling them all off.
• 24:07
  I don't think I've ever ripped a door off.
• 24:09
  I like to I'm I'm very OCD with my advent calendar.
• 24:13
  Do you like to pop each little tab thing with your nails?
• 24:15
  Yeah. So it comes out perfectly.
• 24:17
  Yeah. And then I can fold the crease,
• 24:19
  so it's like I can then also close it back if I want to.
• 24:21
  Yeah. And then the foil that needs to
• 24:23
  all be removed. Yeah.
• 24:24
  So it's nice and neat. I don't do that.
• 24:26
  Oh, right, OK, that's too far. Me neither.
• 24:30
  One of these guys like it as well.
• 24:31
  Actually, on calendars coming, he's putting a far less effort
• 24:34
  into calendars now. Like, I've got a Terry's
• 24:37
  chocolate orange one. I'm going to call them out on on
• 24:39
  the door on the chocolate and the thing behind the chocolate
• 24:42
  are always the same thing everyday.
• 24:44
  Yeah. So like if I get a present, it's
• 24:46
  a present on all three. And it's been consistent.
• 24:48
  I thought, oh, that's weird. No, every time.
• 24:51
  I think, but I think people are moving away from chocolate
• 24:54
  advent calendars and going towards thing advent calendars
• 24:58
  where you can just like, I don't know, you get like a beauty
• 25:01
  product every day and it's like this really like elaborate big.
• 25:04
  So expensive. It it ridiculously.
• 25:06
  I know someone that has spent over £250 on one of those.
• 25:11
  Yeah, I mean, that does sound excessive.
• 25:13
  The one that did look quite good was Bon Man Mon.
• 25:16
  You know, the, the jam company that makes it, there's like a
• 25:19
  mini jam pot in every in every day.
• 25:22
  And they do like like a Nutella spread and like a Biscoff
• 25:26
  spread, but their own brand that that would do it for me.
• 25:29
  I reckon I that's as far as I'd go.
• 25:31
  He's he's a multi $1,000,000 idea, which would enable the
• 25:36
  athletes to actually be paid because no one knows how it's
• 25:38
  going to happen. But if the enhanced games get a
• 25:41
  calendar and every day they gave you a different peptide because
• 25:45
  peptides aren't banned yet, they're allowed.
• 25:47
  Kind of yeah. Then I.
• 25:50
  They would. Sorry, just the rebrand or
• 25:52
  complex? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:54
  The number I've started to get a lot of stuff on my social feed
• 25:57
  of like a non glamorous day in the life of a social person.
• 26:01
  And it's like wake up, stretch, eat my six eggs, do all of this
• 26:05
  stuff like that prepares them to be really healthy.
• 26:08
  And then it's like do my peptides?
• 26:10
  And it's like. You lost me.
• 26:12
  You had me, and then you lost. Surely that's a joke, yeah?
• 26:15
  I I don't think it is by the level.
• 26:16
  Of them really. Well, yeah.
• 26:19
  Have you got any? No, keep on coming.
• 26:20
  OK, I'm going to bring in some. We.
• 26:23
  So we had one person write in and we'll give them a shout out.
• 26:26
  Dez, how busy Christmas is in London and at the moment, have
• 26:32
  you seen the videos online of Oxford Street and Regent Street?
• 26:36
  You can't move, you can't get off the train on the platform
• 26:39
  because the queue goes up to the gates and the queue is at the
• 26:41
  gates because you can't leave the gate because it goes and it.
• 26:45
  Is. The most over stimulating
• 26:49
  situation I can imagine being in.
• 26:51
  I'm not good with large crowds of people, no, but I think it's
• 26:53
  one of the one reason why I just don't enjoy Christmas, because
• 26:58
  it's so. And then that's why I do all of
• 27:00
  my shopping on like Christmas Eve at 10:00 PM and everyone
• 27:04
  there is exactly the same person as me.
• 27:06
  And we're like, we know. We know why we're.
• 27:08
  Each other's way. We need to find the thing.
• 27:10
  Yeah, and then we just need to get.
• 27:11
  We just need a thing. It doesn't matter what it is.
• 27:13
  We just need something to give to someone.
• 27:15
  Something that says I thought about you for an instant.
• 27:17
  That's actually grind my gear. I was thinking on the way here
• 27:19
  just presents for the sake of presents because it's just that
• 27:22
  it's it's a thing that you do. So it's like, I'm just going to
• 27:25
  get this because I need to gift it.
• 27:28
  And then because I'm a people pleaser, if that happens to me,
• 27:31
  I'm going to be like, Oh my God, thank you so much.
• 27:33
  I love this. This is the best present ever,
• 27:34
  even if I hate it. So there is a really really
• 27:37
  interesting fact. This does need fact checking
• 27:39
  because I'm calling this from my memory but.
• 27:42
  You've made this. Gift giving.
• 27:44
  Yeah, Secret Santa. Because that's a massive thing
• 27:46
  at workplaces. There is.
• 27:50
  The average spend on a Secret Santa present is 18 lbs.
• 27:54
  For people between the age of 20 and 30, it goes up to 22 lbs on
• 28:01
  average spent on Secret Santa presents, but 40% of Secret
• 28:05
  Santa presents end up in the bin.
• 28:07
  Really. Yeah, 40%.
• 28:08
  Which is wild when you consider how many people, not even just
• 28:13
  in that age group, but how many people are buying Secret Santa
• 28:15
  presents. And then you imagine how much
• 28:17
  money of that is literally being thrown in the bin.
• 28:18
  Yeah. I like, that's crazy.
• 28:20
  I do, I I like the idea of doing Secret Santa in like a family
• 28:24
  setting as well, because when you have lots of siblings or a
• 28:27
  big family and it's just like, I don't know what to, if you just
• 28:31
  get one present or a present for XML people and then just Secret
• 28:35
  Santa it, that's way, way better.
• 28:37
  Yeah, better. OK so there is one other thing
• 28:40
  that ties into this stupid idea for presents, which is another
• 28:43
  grime and gear of war. I hate cards.
• 28:47
  Cards. I think cards are the biggest
• 28:51
  waste of time and money and I hate them.
• 28:55
  Yeah, it's passionate. Passionate.
• 28:57
  Yeah, and what really pisses me off is when I need to buy a card
• 29:02
  for someone. I, I, yeah, I think we need to
• 29:05
  unpick this more. This is Christmas cards,
• 29:07
  specifically old birthday cards. General, general cards, to be
• 29:10
  honest. Wow.
• 29:11
  So if I buy a card, there's there's very few people which
• 29:14
  I'll go through the effort of buying a card for.
• 29:16
  And if I do, 50% of the time it's going to be mocking that I
• 29:19
  have to buy a card for them. So like I've bought cards that
• 29:21
  say I hope you enjoyed this card.
• 29:25
  Something like that. I've also given when someone
• 29:28
  someone has requested that I get them a card.
• 29:30
  So I literally gave them a playing card because I was like,
• 29:32
  I'm not buying you a card. It's wasted because they're like
• 29:34
  3 lbs to say something generic and I'm stood here giving it to
• 29:39
  you. Guess who it's from?
• 29:40
  But surely you're writing something that's not generic in
• 29:43
  the card. Happy Christmas.
• 29:45
  Yeah, well, that's your problem. Think of something nicer to say.
• 29:50
  I'm here, I'm telling you. Lovely to see you.
• 29:52
  How's your year then? I think you want a drink.
• 29:54
  There's like a generational thing where sending Christmas
• 29:57
  cards was a big thing and receiving Christmas cards was a
• 29:59
  big thing and I just, I don't do that.
• 30:02
  It was. Sick in primary school?
• 30:03
  I don't know if you had that. Where it's like popularity
• 30:06
  contest basically. Yeah, yeah, you'd go to your
• 30:07
  little tray in the classroom and if you have like 10, be sick.
• 30:12
  But you know me there with one. I'm just, I think considering
• 30:15
  that you spend like 3 lbs on a on a piece of card that probably
• 30:19
  says very little in it, and on the front has got the most
• 30:23
  generic unfunny joke, can I not put that towards your present
• 30:27
  instead? Yeah, I know it's only 3 lbs,
• 30:29
  but that could be the difference between something that's going
• 30:31
  to break and something that's not if I'm doing a secret.
• 30:32
  Sound I I quite like cards, I thought.
• 30:35
  You and a rider eye with me on that.
• 30:37
  I yeah, if I'm going to give a present, I'm not necessarily
• 30:41
  going to give a card as well. Maybe it's one or the other, I
• 30:45
  don't know. It depends the context.
• 30:46
  I'm going to segue what I said into another grind my gear that
• 30:49
  we had written in. This one's staying anonymous,
• 30:51
  not for any reason, they just requested it.
• 30:54
  But people that say Happy Christmas, not Merry Christmas,
• 30:58
  Apparently that grinds their gears.
• 31:01
  I'd be interested to know where they're from because ones must
• 31:04
  be an Americanism. I don't know, Merry.
• 31:06
  Christmas. Yeah.
• 31:08
  I feel like I grew up saying no, I never said happy Christmas.
• 31:13
  That's just. Wrong, I think, I don't know.
• 31:15
  I think I've used both really. I think it's Merry Christmas and
• 31:17
  a Happy New Year. Oh, for sure.
• 31:19
  That's why. Yeah, yeah.
• 31:20
  I would never say happy Christmas and a happy New Year.
• 31:22
  That's happy. Christmas and a Merry, that's
• 31:24
  one. But yeah.
• 31:26
  I think on it's own it's like it's OK, but I also do
• 31:28
  understand. I don't hate it.
• 31:30
  Yeah, but I understand why someone would dislike it.
• 31:35
  What else we got? I put one on my story today to
• 31:38
  prompt a few of these. But wrapping paper that doesn't
• 31:40
  RIP I despise is similar to the God I despise the fact I'm very
• 31:45
  environmentally friendly. I despise the fact that we as a
• 31:50
  a species have gone from paper because it was cheap and it was
• 31:57
  recyclable, which was a convenient thing as we started
• 31:59
  recycling, to finding a way to make plastic cheap enough that
• 32:04
  now we have to throw everything away.
• 32:06
  That pisses me off so much. I don't know if I've experienced
• 32:10
  wrapping paper that doesn't RIP. You definitely, well, you'll
• 32:13
  realise it on Christmas now the pretty much everything.
• 32:16
  Is that it is plasticky and doesn't like properly turn.
• 32:18
  Yeah, yeah. But.
• 32:19
  But I'm the same with my like when I open a present I'm like I
• 32:23
  don't really. Are you careful?
• 32:24
  Yeah, I like undo the. This is why you wouldn't know.
• 32:29
  I imagine the last five years they've all been that.
• 32:31
  Yeah, maybe. Do you really use the wrapping
• 32:33
  paper? No.
• 32:35
  Then why are you being careful? Because then it makes more space
• 32:38
  in the bin. Oh my God, that is the oldest
• 32:41
  thing you've ever said to me. You're so ready to be the guy at
• 32:45
  Christmas that goes around and clears everyone's.
• 32:47
  Wow. Folding everyone else.
• 32:49
  'S that's the thing. Fortunate enough that I grew up
• 32:51
  when my mum had like a fireplace and the best thing was burn it.
• 32:55
  Yeah, you just take it and throw it on the fire and why not?
• 32:57
  Can't do that. Right, hang on, this has
• 32:59
  reminded me of something. This is probably some childhood
• 33:02
  trauma or something. Terry's chocolate orange.
• 33:05
  The the Terry's chocolate orange that you get as the actual ball.
• 33:08
  Yeah. Does that now come pre broken?
• 33:12
  No, I. Don't think so.
• 33:14
  You have to still crack. Yeah, OK, yeah.
• 33:16
  Someone said to me the other day that it it comes pre split into
• 33:20
  segments so you don't have to. Now mine's still.
• 33:23
  I had one recently and it still had the thing in the middle.
• 33:25
  OK, because, because. That would entirely change my
• 33:27
  want to buy this. Yeah, because then I I went on
• 33:29
  to explain that that was a thing at Christmas.
• 33:31
  Where we would always give my granddad a Terry's Chocolate
• 33:36
  Orange because that was his favorite chocolate, and then
• 33:38
  he'd always crack it open. Well, actually, it wasn't him.
• 33:40
  It's my. Dad on someone's head.
• 33:41
  On my head, yes. And that was, that was like my
• 33:44
  childhood memory of Christmas. And I was like, well, they're
• 33:46
  taking that away from their. Slogan.
• 33:48
  And to be fair I haven't seen this recently so maybe I am
• 33:50
  wrong, but it was always don't tap it, whack it.
• 33:53
  Whack it. Yeah, yeah.
• 33:54
  It was cool. I know.
• 33:55
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:58
  OK. Then the next one we had someone
• 34:02
  write in was people that eat their Christmas dinner in a
• 34:06
  weirdly specific order or mash it all together.
• 34:10
  Neither apparently is allowed. I've seen.
• 34:12
  I've seen both complained about separately, but I've never seen,
• 34:15
  so I assume this is just like like.
• 34:19
  But that's like a generic one. If you see someone have a burger
• 34:21
  and chips and they eat all the chips 1st and then smash the
• 34:24
  burger or vice versa, are you. I'm going to take a bite of my
• 34:27
  burger and then eat my chips and then have a bit more burger and
• 34:30
  then have some chips I. Have to paste it.
• 34:32
  I have to paste my way through the burger.
• 34:33
  See, I always. Chips always eat.
• 34:36
  I'm not even going to say this on the Internet.
• 34:38
  You always eat all the chips first.
• 34:40
  Always the burger 1st and then I eat the chips.
• 34:42
  No, because then you I. I have to take specific items
• 34:46
  out of the burger to eat first. Like what?
• 34:49
  Like I'll do any sort of vegetable like lettuce and
• 34:52
  tomato, onion, if that's in the burger, I like it, I'll still
• 34:55
  eat it, but I don't want it in the burger when I eat.
• 34:58
  I reckon you should never have said that.
• 35:01
  I safely say that, actually. Yeah, you should definitely
• 35:03
  never have said that. OK, well, we're going to move on
• 35:08
  to food then, because we've been talking about food, Yeah.
• 35:11
  I think so. But we've got some interesting
• 35:15
  things. We've had some suggestions.
• 35:17
  I believe in a few episodes ago when we had Millie on, we were
• 35:22
  talking about meal deals she massively lost by getting a
• 35:26
  Waitrose one that was literally just Coronation Chicken
• 35:29
  rebranded. But I mentioned the pigs in
• 35:35
  blanket sandwich that Sainsbury's made completely
• 35:39
  disappointed me because the cranberry sauce tasted like
• 35:45
  Jelly. And like, I'm not with American
• 35:47
  Jelly. I'm talking like Jelly, Jelly,
• 35:49
  Jelly, Jelly. It was weird.
• 35:51
  Jelly, Jelly. So what I've got here is I've
• 35:53
  got Tesco's version, which a listener told me was much
• 35:58
  improved. Wait.
• 35:59
  Where was yours from? Sainsbury's.
• 36:01
  The original one that I tried, the first pigs in blanket
• 36:03
  sandwich that I tried of the season was from Sainsbury's.
• 36:05
  Yeah. So I'll, I'll let you take.
• 36:07
  I've been doing a lot of festive sandwiches from Sainsbury's
• 36:09
  recently. OK, so this is Tesco, this is
• 36:12
  Tesco's pigs in, well, pigs under blankets.
• 36:15
  Wait, hang on. So I'm going to go from one
• 36:17
  side, but when you look at the profile, look how much of the
• 36:21
  salche is on one side? The what?
• 36:23
  Salche? Is that source Wow.
• 36:25
  OK, that grinds my guess what we was first impressions.
• 36:33
  When did you buy that? I'm going to go ahead and guess
• 36:37
  it's a bit dry. No, that bread is stale.
• 36:40
  OK I bought this literally like 2-3 hours ago from the French as
• 36:45
  well. Wasn't in a reduced bit.
• 36:50
  I'm very much sure what you mean though.
• 36:52
  That was the first thing that struck me.
• 36:53
  OK, I want to know what you think about the flavour of that.
• 36:58
  The sausage is good. I like the sausage actually.
• 37:00
  That's a proper Cumberland sausage.
• 37:01
  Bread that's. The bread is laid.
• 37:03
  Out. That's zero out of 10 for the
• 37:05
  bread. It would be better without the
• 37:07
  bread. The cranberry sauce.
• 37:09
  The cranberry sauce wasn't cranberry sauce though.
• 37:11
  It was. It was still the consistency is
• 37:14
  more Jelly like but I assume that's just how they have to
• 37:16
  make it. Preserve it so you can't be
• 37:18
  overly critical. I would say it's got a better
• 37:20
  flavour. It doesn't taste.
• 37:22
  It doesn't taste like. Better than the same food one by
• 37:24
  far, yeah. Yeah, that's non comparable
• 37:26
  though. The sausage is very good, yeah.
• 37:28
  And then the bacon is a bit amiss, to be honest.
• 37:30
  It's there, but it's not really. Doing much?
• 37:32
  Yeah, but that's the same with every bacon sandwich you buy
• 37:34
  from A. Yeah, from a meal up next is
• 37:37
  something that I wish I had found.
• 37:39
  And people mentioned that I absolutely must get it because
• 37:41
  the last and again, I don't know if you remember, but I got the
• 37:45
  apples strewed or the apple pie thing, which we agreed would be
• 37:49
  better as an air fryer. And I have since tested that it
• 37:52
  is really good. Like when do you have an air
• 37:54
  fryer at work if you're doing a meal dip.
• 37:56
  So I've gone ahead and got my go to meal deal snack at Christmas
• 38:02
  time, which is it does look good.
• 38:04
  The port pie cool, but it's got cranberry in it as well.
• 38:07
  It's dusted with some sort of pink.
• 38:09
  So I've seen the dust thing on there's a, there's a Cesco.
• 38:13
  This is Tesco. OK, so Sainsbury's do like a
• 38:15
  sausage, a festive sausage roll then it has the same dust thing
• 38:18
  on the top. I don't know what the dust thing
• 38:19
  is. But we're going to do some,
• 38:22
  maybe nothing SMR. Well, also Sainsbury's.
• 38:24
  You can, you can continue Sainsbury's.
• 38:26
  Do I believe a pork pie that has stuffing in it?
• 38:31
  I don't. I don't rate that at all.
• 38:38
  I really like pork pies. But the sweetness in that is
• 38:42
  unbelievable. Yeah, that's.
• 38:44
  This should be an all year round thing.
• 38:46
  They might do it. They won't.
• 38:48
  I've been begging for the last three years silently.
• 38:51
  But isn't it based off like sales?
• 38:54
  Go and buy more. Yeah, true.
• 38:55
  Maybe. Even the pastry is good.
• 38:57
  I can freeze these, I'm just having a year's supply of well,
• 39:00
  I have a drawer in my freezer. You go up to the employee there.
• 39:02
  Is there any more in the back? Please just bring the box.
• 39:04
  OK, you've demolished that. That's.
• 39:07
  Yeah, you don't last long with me.
• 39:09
  How tiny. Do you know what's bad though?
• 39:11
  This goes back to our grandma. Is last time calories and poor
• 39:14
  pies. Hi, absurd.
• 39:17
  I'm pretty sure each one of these tiny little ones in a sack
• 39:20
  packet is like 300. But that's got to be the butter
• 39:22
  and the pastry shorting, yeah. Did you also know Bit like
• 39:25
  champagne but the British version?
• 39:27
  You can't have a melted Mowbray pork pie that isn't made or you
• 39:30
  won't have a yeah. Can't claim it's a melted
• 39:32
  Mowbray pork pie unless it's made in melt out of Mowbray.
• 39:35
  I've been there. They have a lot of pie.
• 39:37
  Pie shops like Proper. Fat Jelly on the top, yeah.
• 39:40
  Yeah. And the problem with what I just
• 39:42
  previously said about calories is that I will never buy one of
• 39:44
  those because they are massive. And you have to have like a
• 39:46
  slice of it right whilst we munch this.
• 39:49
  Now for those of you that were watching and enjoying us eat
• 39:54
  weirdos, but whatever. I have got something which I
• 39:58
  became aware of yesterday, but it's apparently viral on social
• 40:01
  media. So I've made it.
• 40:03
  I've had a wonderful assistant behind the camera deliver it.
• 40:08
  I'm not going to tell you what's in it.
• 40:12
  But I want you to take a bite of it.
• 40:14
  Cool. Make sure you get a good bit.
• 40:15
  I'm open to try anything. I'm going to pass it to you.
• 40:18
  I won't eat it weirdly. OK, go for it.
• 40:24
  When you tell me first if you like it and 2nd what you think's
• 40:27
  in it. I'm so sorry to everyone who's
• 40:38
  just listening on Spotify now. So I mean chewing.
• 40:41
  We've got air from our widow, so it's fine.
• 40:46
  I'm trying to like the taste is like mincemeat, like mince pie
• 40:53
  mince like spiced, kind of fruity, that kind of vibe.
• 41:00
  I don't even know what it's in a mince pie, but that.
• 41:02
  Would you eat more of that? Like I mean you can, but would
• 41:05
  you? I mean, if someone presented
• 41:10
  that to me as a meal, I'd finish it, OK.
• 41:14
  If I was really hungry now, I'd probably have some more.
• 41:17
  I don't know if I'd go again, OK.
• 41:19
  So this is a. It was presented an open
• 41:23
  sandwich, but I thought why not just close it?
• 41:27
  So this is bread with. Well, I need to go again.
• 41:33
  You go again. I'm.
• 41:34
  Going to wait for you to actually take a bite again.
• 41:36
  So it's bread with a bit of butter on it, then some bacon,
• 41:40
  then on top of the. Bacon.
• 41:42
  I didn't get bacon the first time.
• 41:44
  We have Christmas pudding. Shut up.
• 41:48
  Christmas pudding, then some cheese and then butter and
• 41:52
  ready. Yeah.
• 41:55
  So that is a there's slices of Christmas pudding.
• 41:57
  Shut up. Yeah, that is, do you know what
• 42:01
  now? This conversation with someone
• 42:02
  very, very recently. I hate Christmas pudding but and
• 42:08
  but the idea of like a Christmas cake and cheese.
• 42:11
  I like that sweet, savoury kind of vibe.
• 42:13
  I don't mean that Christmas cake either, but that's way better
• 42:16
  than Christmas cake. Oh, Christmas pudding.
• 42:18
  Yeah, Yeah, I had. I think I've got PTSD from
• 42:21
  Christmas pudding because one time I ate too much at school
• 42:25
  and then I was sick on on someone's shoes.
• 42:29
  Well, maybe I've just got you over it.
• 42:30
  Maybe we'll start liking it again.
• 42:31
  But yeah, so yeah, that's pudding.
• 42:34
  Christmas pudding sandwich. You tricked me.
• 42:36
  Hit or miss? Yeah, Miss.
• 42:38
  Oh, fuck. But like I, I, I was pleasantly
• 42:44
  surprised. It's kind of fun.
• 42:45
  Yeah, kind of fun. I have something as well.
• 42:47
  Let's do it. Right.
• 42:50
  Do you know? Do you know what?
• 42:51
  Oh, no, unfortunately, you know, yeah.
• 42:57
  So you're not a fan? Right.
• 42:59
  So every year, and this is, this is normal, but every year
• 43:03
  somebody somewhere comes out with and that is the flavour of
• 43:08
  the season. And we've had like it, we've had
• 43:11
  hot honey recently, pistachio flavoured things which everyone
• 43:14
  pretends that they love and think is so ingenious.
• 43:17
  And this year, we've had the gingerbread.
• 43:20
  Gingerbread everything. Yeah, I'm not the.
• 43:22
  Biggest fan of ginger as it is one thing that I have to be
• 43:26
  happy about. Biscoff flavouring and Biscoff
• 43:28
  spread stayed managed to outlast its season.
• 43:31
  But gingerbread not my thing so. We've got gingerbread Kit Kat.
• 43:36
  I saw these knocking about the other day, and I mean, I'm kind
• 43:39
  of into Kit Kat. I'm.
• 43:40
  Going to be honest, there's there's three components to this
• 43:42
  snack and two of them, I'm not a fan of wafer.
• 43:46
  I'm not a fan of wafer. It's cardboard.
• 43:49
  I get that. Oh, it's quite gingerbread, E.
• 43:54
  Oh wow. Why right?
• 44:00
  Why though? Yeah, I you're never buying that
• 44:04
  over a normal kit cap, ever. You're not buying it anyway
• 44:06
  because you you. Bought an 8 pack.
• 44:09
  That's that's my main. Problem.
• 44:11
  There wasn't a shot. The shop didn't have the little
• 44:14
  tray. Though I looked and then I went
• 44:16
  back to look again after I picked this up because I was
• 44:19
  like, if I don't like it, I've committed to an 8 pack.
• 44:21
  Oh. My gosh, that is.
• 44:23
  I'll take them to the gym, leave them at the gym, someone will
• 44:25
  have them. But so the reason why I went
• 44:27
  into the shop was because allegedly someone had told me
• 44:31
  that as part of the meal deal, you could get a mini box of
• 44:35
  celebrations. If you've seen those tiny like
• 44:37
  cardboard boxes of celebrations as your snack in a meal deal.
• 44:43
  Is that a thing? Apparently.
• 44:44
  So I was like, that's. Genius.
• 44:45
  I'm gonna go and investigate. You probably get 3 celebrations
• 44:48
  in that little box. But I was like, yeah, if we if
• 44:50
  that's a snack option, I'm getting that as a snack.
• 44:52
  Can you can find it. No, I'm also gonna say must have
• 44:55
  been with a single ginger. Risky game.
• 44:57
  Yeah, that's a very risky game, and it's a game I think we
• 44:59
  should explore. This is incredible.
• 45:01
  It's incredible. Let's see what you've done
• 45:03
  there. The We're gonna play a game now
• 45:05
  and the game is going to be drafting, so we're going to do a
• 45:08
  draft. So for those that have grown up
• 45:10
  in English sport and don't know much about American sport, in
• 45:13
  American sport, they have a draft system in most of their
• 45:16
  professional leagues where each year usually the worst team from
• 45:19
  the previous season gets the first pick and they get to pick
• 45:23
  who they think is the best buyer.
• 45:24
  And then it goes in that order, in reverse order.
• 45:27
  And then in Round 2, the kind of order of who picked reverses
• 45:33
  confusing you just made that really confusing.
• 45:36
  Essentially, though, what we're going to do is because we're not
• 45:38
  professional league and we don't have last season to rely on,
• 45:41
  we're going to toss a coin to decide who goes first.
• 45:45
  Now the first thing we're going to be drafting then is
• 45:49
  celebrations. Interesting.
• 45:50
  So we're. Going to be doing it in order.
• 45:54
  I've forgotten what the celebrations are and I thought
• 45:57
  we had a CHEAT SHEET but we don't, so I'm just going to go
• 45:59
  off my memory, OK? Have you got a list?
• 46:02
  Do you know what you're going for?
• 46:03
  I have. I have my first round.
• 46:05
  First click for sure. OK, But we have to we have to
• 46:07
  flip the coin first. Yes.
• 46:09
  All right, so who's calling it? You are when it's in the air.
• 46:11
  When it's in the air, Yeah. Heads.
• 46:15
  It's tails. It's tails.
• 46:16
  Using the first then first round pick.
• 46:19
  I'm going to be thrown by my helper a CHEAT SHEET so I can
• 46:22
  thrown. Yeah, amazing.
• 46:24
  OK, right. So we've got the celebrations
• 46:27
  hiding it from. OK, so first round, first pick.
• 46:32
  First round, first pick. What are you going for?
• 46:34
  Maltesers had to be, really. There's no other five star
• 46:40
  quarterback. Right, see, this is this is
• 46:41
  tough. I'm going to play strategy game
• 46:42
  here. I think I'm going to go for the
• 46:43
  Galaxy Caramel. That's yeah, strong play.
• 46:48
  OK. I just know how much judgement
• 46:51
  there's going to be on the Internet for the mix.
• 46:53
  I'm just going to have to play it safe.
• 46:56
  I'm going to go then regular Galaxy.
• 46:58
  I think that was the right move. That was the right move, I
• 47:02
  think. I I want to play to what my
• 47:06
  preference would be. But then you know you're going.
• 47:08
  Then I know I'm going to get hate, so I'm going to play it
• 47:11
  safe with my next two options and I'm going to go for Mars.
• 47:15
  That was your safe option. That was my safe option.
• 47:18
  I think a lot of people are happy with the Mars.
• 47:19
  Mars and Milky Way are so similar and I, I'm, I do, I am
• 47:24
  into Milky Way. I'm going Twix.
• 47:27
  I'm going Twix. I didn't think you were going to
• 47:29
  pull the Twix card. Yeah, I had Twix.
• 47:30
  This is so underrated. I literally.
• 47:32
  Just had one before. I was like wow, damn, OK, in
• 47:37
  which case I'm going for my other option.
• 47:39
  And this is tough because it's somewhat controversial.
• 47:42
  I know what you're going for. I'm going for the Snickers,
• 47:45
  Really. Yeah, I rate a Snickers higher
• 47:46
  than a Mars bar personally, but I know that some people like the
• 47:50
  because a Mars bar is a Snickers without the the nut.
• 47:52
  Yeah, without the nut. So like, that's why I've gone
• 47:54
  for the safe auction and going Mars higher, even though you
• 47:57
  prefer Snickers, even though I prefer.
• 47:59
  Snickers as well. Yeah.
• 48:01
  So the the problem is I like all the celebrations equally.
• 48:05
  Equally. Yeah, that's maybe, maybe other
• 48:07
  than the Maltesers. Yeah, but they're all good.
• 48:09
  They're all good. Even the Bounty in my old age,
• 48:14
  because that's that was like the the one that always get leftover
• 48:17
  and it was like your mum and your dad would just clean up at
• 48:19
  the end of Christmas because they had two years, they all
• 48:21
  left. So in my head it's like an old
• 48:23
  person chocolate. But I quite like Bounty.
• 48:25
  So you're going to draft the bounty?
• 48:28
  I don't know if it's better than Milky Way, if I can have it for
• 48:31
  the rest of my life. Yeah, Yeah, I'm going to.
• 48:35
  I'm going to draft bounty, you know.
• 48:36
  That saved me Milky Way. I'll take that.
• 48:39
  Because The thing is, I I don't hate bounties.
• 48:44
  Yeah, but again, they're still my last option.
• 48:47
  Really. Yeah, I don't.
• 48:48
  I'm not mad when there's a ball for the bounties at the end.
• 48:50
  I still have one but like. Take a bounty.
• 48:53
  If I see anything else, who's going first?
• 48:55
  Yeah, interesting for sure. I don't know why I just that was
• 48:59
  just instinctual. Is that a word?
• 49:01
  Overall, I've won. Do you think are you doing?
• 49:05
  I definitely won. Well, there needs to be like a
• 49:07
  third party opinion. If you're this is you guys, so
• 49:10
  if you first of all, because this is the first thing we're
• 49:12
  drafting, let us know in the comments or drop us a message
• 49:15
  who you think now, right? This is deeply important because
• 49:18
  we're both very competitive, as you can hear by the fact that
• 49:20
  he's still going on about it when he's clearly lost.
• 49:22
  Twix and Snickers. The next thing we're drafting is
• 49:27
  roast or Christmas dinners, actually.
• 49:31
  Right, I've been LED astray here because you told me roast
• 49:33
  dinners. OK, roast dinners, but it's
• 49:35
  Christmas, so we're doing Christmas dinners.
• 49:36
  Well, that OK? Well, you're.
• 49:38
  Just going to have to adapt from the fire.
• 49:39
  Be an athlete, OK? That's come.
• 49:42
  The way we're going to do this is we have a number of things
• 49:44
  that you have to pick. We'll again toss the coin to see
• 49:47
  who goes first, but we need to pick two meats, four sides, 2
• 49:52
  veg, 1 condiment, a dessert and a dessert condiment.
• 49:57
  Do you know what that source really through me was the
• 50:00
  condiment. OK, I thought that would be an
• 50:02
  easy, but then I had to really think about it.
• 50:05
  I had to really think, because you lost the last round, you can
• 50:07
  go first. Oh.
• 50:08
  What a gentleman. OK, you just admitted you lost
• 50:10
  the last round. Two meats?
• 50:13
  Yeah. No, I thought.
• 50:14
  I thought you meant I lost on the coin toss.
• 50:16
  That's what I went for. Or you went first.
• 50:18
  Last time I won. Anyway, 2 meats.
• 50:23
  I'm going to go. With are you going to say both
• 50:26
  of them at once? No, I can.
• 50:29
  You can only get one at a time. OK, I'm going to play strategy
• 50:33
  again. I'm going to say roast beef.
• 50:36
  So I can't choose roast, but you can't.
• 50:38
  Choose roast beef. That's good.
• 50:39
  I didn't even have roast beef. I thought you were going to play
• 50:42
  it safe and be like play to the audience.
• 50:44
  Everyone likes Turkey at Christmas.
• 50:46
  Wow, you've got the choice. Turkey is so dead.
• 50:48
  Turkey is the fucking worst thing ever.
• 50:50
  Roast dinners are also really dead, but let's not go down that
• 50:53
  rabbit hole, OK? I went for steak, but I didn't
• 50:57
  go for any steak. I went for Chateau Brion.
• 50:59
  Like proper. That's beef.
• 51:02
  Yeah. I've just said beef.
• 51:04
  You did a different type of beef.
• 51:06
  I can't have beef. Beef no.
• 51:07
  Beef is my meat. Nah.
• 51:10
  Choose a different meat. Nah.
• 51:12
  That was absolute pole. Yeah, no, I made the rules.
• 51:14
  Choose your meat. Fuck you, I'm I'm going chicken.
• 51:18
  Going chicken. OK, which means my strategy
• 51:20
  worked perfectly. I'm going for like ham or
• 51:23
  gammon. Oh, nice, because that always
• 51:25
  that. Is festive, so I've got a couple
• 51:27
  of options. Yeah, I could do like a goose.
• 51:30
  You could do a goose. You could do a lamb.
• 51:32
  All lambs good. No, I'm going to go really
• 51:34
  rogue. I'm doing duck.
• 51:36
  Duck. OK, fair enough.
• 51:37
  Strong. OK, OK, cool.
• 51:40
  So far I'd say that I can't have my Chateau Brill at Christmas.
• 51:43
  You can't just put French name on it.
• 51:47
  It's it's big. It's just a stake.
• 51:49
  OK, sides, right. First side I'm going for.
• 51:53
  Oh no, he's going to take mine. Pigs in blankets.
• 51:55
  Yeah, he took mine. Yeah, OK, fair.
• 51:59
  That was that's an MVP. Yeah.
• 52:01
  I mean, it's that's a Hall. Of Famer undoubted.
• 52:04
  Yeah. Good draft pick.
• 52:06
  OK sides right? Is a roast potato a side?
• 52:12
  It's a veg. Is it a veg?
• 52:14
  I'm then going to have to go for cauliflower cheese I.
• 52:17
  Didn't think you'd go for cauliflower.
• 52:18
  Cheese. I had to whipping out the big
• 52:20
  guns. OK, I'm going to go a little bit
• 52:22
  rogue then, because this is this is somewhat controversial, but I
• 52:25
  think it's a staple. I'm going stuffing.
• 52:28
  Oh. A meat stuffing or a non meat
• 52:31
  stuffing? I I don't do I have to specify
• 52:34
  because that just means you're going to choose the other one.
• 52:36
  I think I'm just going to try stuffing.
• 52:38
  Fine, fine, yes, stuffing as a whole.
• 52:39
  I'm then going to go Yorkshire pudding.
• 52:42
  Fuck. Damn, I thought I was going to
• 52:45
  go onto the radar. There's no more sides after
• 52:47
  that. Yeah, there is.
• 52:47
  Where are you going? Oh no, Because if you've ever
• 52:49
  been to Toby Carvery, you know there's an alternative to
• 52:51
  cauliflower cheese. I'm going Mac and cheese.
• 52:54
  That's not a thing. That is a thing, but it's just
• 52:57
  like you're just adding things that you want on your roast.
• 52:59
  I've had it on a Christmas roast, Christmas roast then
• 53:01
  before. That's how we Calvary.
• 53:03
  Well, they do it as well, which just furthers my point.
• 53:07
  Wait, so I have one more side to pick?
• 53:09
  I think technically we've got, you've got two more, I've got
• 53:11
  one more. But you're right.
• 53:12
  We're we're get OK, we'll we'll turn a roast vegetable.
• 53:16
  Into a side, into a side. I'm going hard then with honey
• 53:18
  roasted carrots. Oh, OK.
• 53:21
  The the that's very good. The GOAT of all carrots.
• 53:24
  It's a massive error, though. I'm going roast potato.
• 53:28
  That's really painful to see happen.
• 53:30
  He as in from an athlete to an athlete, you never want to see
• 53:33
  the other athlete get injured, and that's what I've just seen.
• 53:36
  That's so tough for your. Pick.
• 53:39
  I'm going to have to go Brussels sprouts, yeah, but it's it's
• 53:43
  staple for. Chris to shoot herself in the
• 53:45
  foot. I mean, I'm going to do that
• 53:46
  again. I like Brussels sprouts.
• 53:48
  You could have had parsnips. I'll take Brussels sprouts over
• 53:51
  parsnips. OK, Right.
• 53:52
  The listeners are going to back me.
• 53:53
  Off veg then veg. First veg I'm going for.
• 53:56
  Which I can't believe. I feel dejected.
• 53:59
  I'm going to tend to stem broccoli.
• 54:04
  Shame I'm going. I don't know if this is a thing,
• 54:08
  but I'm doing like buttered cabbage.
• 54:13
  See, I think I know where this is going to go because my next
• 54:15
  one was going to be the red cabbage, the spice winter red
• 54:19
  cabbage. Are you going to allow me to
• 54:21
  have that or are you claiming cabbage?
• 54:24
  After the stuffing fucking of Michael, you can you can have
• 54:28
  your. Winter spice Cabbage.
• 54:29
  Thank you very much, Spice. Cabbage.
• 54:31
  This is becoming my ideal Christmas dinner.
• 54:34
  I haven't really missed anything apart from cold fried cheese at
• 54:36
  the moment. Oh, and Yorkshire.
• 54:37
  More veg. Yeah, one more veg.
• 54:40
  What else could I throw on there?
• 54:43
  Peas. Beans.
• 54:46
  Sweet corn. Have a corn on the cob.
• 54:53
  Did you already take parsnips? You just you just gave that as.
• 54:56
  Option gave it as an option. Well, I'm taking parsnip.
• 54:57
  It's fair. That's solid.
• 54:58
  I like I love a parsnip OK condiment.
• 55:02
  This was actually, I mean, there's, there is only one,
• 55:04
  there is only one that can win. I'm going gravy.
• 55:09
  Well then I'm going for like, cranberry sauce.
• 55:12
  Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.
• 55:13
  At least you didn't go like bread sauce or mint sauce.
• 55:16
  Bread sauce is the most British thing, by the way.
• 55:19
  Oh, it's terrible. Let's take some plain food, take
• 55:20
  that, add some water to it, and then put it on everything else.
• 55:24
  It's so bad. Yeah, Undisputed.
• 55:26
  Your roast probably won that round.
• 55:28
  I'm going to let you. Well, we're not technically done
• 55:30
  because we've got a dessert, A dessert condiment.
• 55:33
  OK, I'll let you go first on this.
• 55:35
  Because I don't like Christmas desserts.
• 55:38
  Really. Yeah, I'm not into it.
• 55:39
  OK, So I just went super rogue. So I went.
• 55:43
  It has to be baked. OK, Baked honeycomb cheesecake.
• 55:48
  It's my festive dessert of choice.
• 55:51
  Do you know? What?
• 55:51
  I reckon there's probably a frozen festive one of those
• 55:53
  somewhere, obviously, Yeah, yeah, I'm going to then take or
• 55:58
  I think I'm going to have to go for a home favorite if you like
• 56:02
  it, which is tough because I'm going to lose a few people here.
• 56:04
  I'm going to go mince pies and I think I'm playing it safe
• 56:08
  though, and I'm saying cream or ice cream.
• 56:13
  Is that your? Condiment.
• 56:13
  I think cream is going to be my condiment unless you steal it
• 56:17
  for your no no, you. You have cheesecake.
• 56:19
  Because I'm having freaking salt caramel sauce.
• 56:21
  Sort of camera sauce. Wow, it's.
• 56:23
  Not festive, it's. Actually, another thing, as well
• 56:26
  as gingerbread that has taken over this year.
• 56:27
  I don't know if anyone's seen this sticky toffee pudding
• 56:29
  flavored stuff. Everything, Literally
• 56:30
  everything. And I love sticky toffee
• 56:32
  pudding. Yeah, but people are doing it
• 56:33
  wrong because there's no like, dates or like, raisins in there,
• 56:36
  which is, I think, essential. Yeah, but I can.
• 56:39
  Imagine why people don't like that part though.
• 56:40
  It is what it is. We'll move on.
• 56:42
  We'll do. Do you want to do one more?
• 56:44
  Yeah, let's do one more. OK, one more.
• 56:45
  So we're going to do gifts for High Rocks athletes.
• 56:49
  This is good. We brought it back.
• 56:50
  To ours a little bit, but gifts this is good if you're listening
• 56:53
  to this. Yeah, it's good, guys.
• 56:55
  This this has come out on Christmas Eve.
• 56:56
  So you're now in Charles's position.
• 56:59
  You're both you're both on the streets of London shopping for
• 57:03
  this exact list. Yeah, OK, right.
• 57:05
  I'll let you go first. Adios Pro Fours.
• 57:09
  Oh, great, right, yeah, if I'm getting.
• 57:12
  Them for Christmas. I'm having a great Christmas.
• 57:15
  In which case I'm going for the blacked out represent human
• 57:19
  deviate Nitro threes. Really.
• 57:20
  Yeah. I'm just not into like an all
• 57:22
  black trainer and I don't know why as.
• 57:24
  Long as you've got black socks on.
• 57:26
  Yeah, you have to wear black socks all blacked out.
• 57:28
  Would be a cool look. Yeah, And I think it's a great
• 57:30
  trainer. I'm pretty sure that's Billie.
• 57:34
  Billie Eilish is Eilish. I think that's her lyrics
• 57:37
  exactly. Is it black towel?
• 57:39
  I mean a good. Pair of trainers fire Ox right
• 57:41
  here. All right, I'm then going to go,
• 57:47
  well, you can get anything. I can do anything you.
• 57:49
  Can do pretty much anything. I'm going to do then a Polar H10
• 57:54
  heart rate monitor. Oh, is it?
• 57:56
  Yeah, fair enough. I personally don't like racing
• 57:59
  the heart rate monitor so I think that's a terrible call.
• 58:02
  But it's a gift for a Hyrox who's needs to train for data.
• 58:04
  Yeah, that is actually fair. OK, I'm going to go for an amaze
• 58:09
  fit. Watch a mouse fit.
• 58:11
  Because then? Because you'd be gutted.
• 58:13
  Here we go, GMG. Why my gear?
• 58:14
  You'd be gutted. Have you heard Garmin has
• 58:17
  released their subscription packs?
• 58:19
  Have they? Yes.
• 58:20
  No, they haven't. If you've got a £700 watch, you
• 58:24
  still have subscription options. Now do you know who's not?
• 58:28
  Amazed fit. Amazed fit?
• 58:29
  Is it a maze fit or a Maz fit? Who knows, I prefer a maze fit.
• 58:34
  I prefer a maze fit because it's like wow.
• 58:36
  And I also don't like a Maz fit because everyone thinks it's
• 58:39
  like a a cheap Amazon watch. Yeah.
• 58:43
  No, I think it, I don't. I don't know what the the answer
• 58:45
  is There we'll go. We'll say it's a bit.
• 58:47
  We're talking high rocks athlete amazed that they've got a high
• 58:50
  rocks race mode specifically that's good for.
• 58:52
  Them yeah, that is good for them and and you will turn up and
• 58:55
  you've got like the title sponsor watch on and yeah OK,
• 58:58
  good bit of Tech 3 inch pair of race shorts, 3 inch specifically
• 59:05
  3 inch short yeah. That's quite a long short for a
• 59:09
  lot of people. Actually, I would say that's an
• 59:11
  above average length of short. With that slit which is like. 00
• 59:16
  E slit yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone, someone was was it
• 59:19
  Hunter again? Yeah.
• 59:20
  Commentator made a comment on how much you could see of Hunter
• 59:24
  this time. They were perfectly real
• 59:25
  slightly shorts. They were perfectly.
• 59:27
  Yeah, Yeah. I'm, I'm going to go ahead and
• 59:31
  say this is this is actually tough nose tape.
• 59:40
  No, I'm going to go nose tape. Yeah.
• 59:42
  Because if you're a Hierarchs athlete, there's a strong,
• 59:45
  strong chance that you will wear nose tape at some point.
• 59:48
  And the fact that you're going to turn around and say no and
• 59:50
  shake your head after, in the last episode, admitting that you
• 59:53
  have the best night's sleep of your life with nose tape on,
• 59:55
  screams that this is actually a great gift.
• 59:58
  No, but I'm just going to come in and and win it outright.
• 1:00:03
  So I've already gifted my Hyroxa, a pair of Adidas Adios
• 1:00:07
  Pros, a heart rate monitor and a three inch pair of shorts.
• 1:00:11
  What do they got to do now? They got to go race.
• 1:00:14
  OK, no, you're giving them a ticket.
• 1:00:16
  I'm giving them tickets, I'll give them a race ticket.
• 1:00:18
  OK, in which case a great. Gift.
• 1:00:21
  I'm going to go one better. I'm going to go and I'm going to
• 1:00:25
  go into my bag upstairs and I'm going to dig out every colour of
• 1:00:32
  band and give them free access to any event for the whole year
• 1:00:36
  to put them all on and you go. Imagine you unwrapping your
• 1:00:39
  present and you've been given a re gifted, already used
• 1:00:42
  wristband. Brace in any race you like.
• 1:00:44
  But it doesn't work. Tyne doesn't work like that.
• 1:00:46
  There's a. Will there's a way?
• 1:00:48
  Well, with no chip, you don't get official time.
• 1:00:52
  I'll be guided if it gave me that.
• 1:00:53
  If we discussed the the Instagram account that's calling
• 1:00:56
  out people's times, I've seen that.
• 1:00:58
  Yeah, that's brilliant. No one's safe.
• 1:01:00
  No one's safe. I'm.
• 1:01:02
  I'm bitchy enough to report you if I can.
• 1:01:03
  You've lied. I won't lie.
• 1:01:05
  You're. That type of person.
• 1:01:07
  All right, how many gifts have we done now Has that?
• 1:01:08
  We've done 4. So there's one more.
• 1:01:10
  One more. I'm clutching at straws here.
• 1:01:12
  OK, what did I write down? Oh, this is a great one.
• 1:01:17
  This is so neat. I didn't need that, so I'm
• 1:01:20
  gifting a pair of Burke's Birkenstock sandals because what
• 1:01:26
  else are you going to wear to and from venue once you've raced
• 1:01:29
  and just look stylish whilst doing it?
• 1:01:32
  That's a loophole, because that's not hierarchy specific.
• 1:01:35
  Yeah. But anything's hierarchy
• 1:01:36
  specific. Yeah, fair enough, but but a
• 1:01:38
  nice pair of shoes to put on after a race is really good.
• 1:01:42
  Other sandals are available. OK, This is this is very
• 1:01:47
  difficult. You've lost this if you're
• 1:01:48
  actually. Yeah, I probably got this round
• 1:01:50
  unless I can put it back with a crazy one.
• 1:01:52
  Should be like I'm going to get them a MacBook Pro to do their
• 1:01:56
  breaks on. A winning lottery ticket?
• 1:02:02
  Give them fucking grab tax free cash.
• 1:02:05
  No, I'm going to give them a represent voucher.
• 1:02:08
  Nice. And then they can get everything
• 1:02:11
  including three inch slit shorts that they want and wear
• 1:02:14
  everything black. Yeah, that's OK.
• 1:02:17
  Fair. Enough of what value?
• 1:02:20
  Unlimited. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's the
• 1:02:22
  GOAT. Nah, come on, I'm not spending
• 1:02:23
  that much £20. So you can't buy anything?
• 1:02:28
  You can browse Optimistic. OK, so before we round off the
• 1:02:32
  episode 1 of the things that we said we would do because we are
• 1:02:37
  friends as well as podcast hosts, I think we're about to
• 1:02:40
  find out basically we're going to do a gift exchange.
• 1:02:42
  It's it's that time of year. So we've got in and got each
• 1:02:46
  other a gift that could go in the bin based on the
• 1:02:49
  percentages. Do you want to toss a coin for
• 1:02:52
  who goes first? Yeah, I reckon.
• 1:02:53
  OK, I've got something funny to tell you about this pound coin.
• 1:02:56
  OK, but I'll save it. I'm going tales never fails.
• 1:03:01
  It doesn't. So you you choose, you go first.
• 1:03:05
  You don't have to go first if you don't want to.
• 1:03:07
  I'm going to go first. OK, OK, so this actually comes
• 1:03:11
  off the back of a grind my dear. Oh no, because.
• 1:03:13
  Someone wrote in after the last episode.
• 1:03:17
  OK, now I appreciate. First of all, I appreciate it.
• 1:03:21
  I'm not 100% on their side. You and I both have a favorite
• 1:03:27
  hat. Oh yeah, we both have a favorite
• 1:03:30
  hat. Now, part of the reason I love
• 1:03:32
  my hat is because of what that hat has been through.
• 1:03:34
  I've taken it travelling, I've taken it through many a gym
• 1:03:37
  workout and it's a comfy hat. I like.
• 1:03:40
  It goes with a lot of different outfits.
• 1:03:43
  I've got to grind my gear and I will keep them on.
• 1:03:45
  None of this that they didn't like seeing your sweat on your
• 1:03:49
  hat in podcasts. I know, Harsh.
• 1:03:54
  And you can't see a self hat today.
• 1:03:56
  Yeah, I need to, but interesting.
• 1:04:00
  Unwrapped because neither of us had time.
• 1:04:03
  I have got three hat options here.
• 1:04:05
  One of them's still got the price on it, but interestingly
• 1:04:08
  enough that price wasn't what they allowed me to buy it for
• 1:04:11
  because apparently that wasn't what it was registered at, so
• 1:04:13
  I'd pay more. OK, cool, but you get to choose
• 1:04:16
  three and three of hats. And this is going to be my new.
• 1:04:19
  This is my new Dodd class hat. It doesn't have to be, but it's
• 1:04:21
  just another hat option. I will also preface the fact
• 1:04:25
  that if you don't like any of these, then I can work some
• 1:04:27
  magic and I can get you one that I saw online that I wanted to
• 1:04:29
  get you, but it wouldn't have got here in time.
• 1:04:32
  I'm so these are Green Bay. They are.
• 1:04:37
  I don't recognize that logo. It's San Diego.
• 1:04:39
  Yeah, the Dodgers. Yeah, Is it?
• 1:04:42
  Yeah. And have you seen the side?
• 1:04:43
  It's kind of cool. That's freaking sick.
• 1:04:48
  Wait, so I can I can I can pick one?
• 1:04:50
  Any really. Yeah.
• 1:04:51
  This is a great gift. I have left the tag on it.
• 1:04:54
  Let's try not to look at the. Tag sorry, sorry, sorry.
• 1:04:56
  But yeah, Mick, I'm going for this one.
• 1:04:59
  Sick. Thank you very much.
• 1:05:00
  That's a very. The secret benefit of this is
• 1:05:02
  that I really wanted this one and I've now got this one.
• 1:05:06
  That's very, that's very kind. That's a a great gift.
• 1:05:08
  There you go also. My the cap I always wear.
• 1:05:11
  Yeah, tell. So this is the thing.
• 1:05:13
  There's clearly some loves for this app.
• 1:05:15
  This my my Carhart hat? Yeah.
• 1:05:17
  This part of my back I saw for the first time ever someone else
• 1:05:20
  wearing a Carhart hat. Yeah, the same one as me at High
• 1:05:24
  Rocks in London. I've never seen anyone wearing
• 1:05:25
  one before. The same one that I have.
• 1:05:28
  That's not sweat because I don't ever wear it.
• 1:05:31
  It's just discoloured from. Life.
• 1:05:33
  Well, there you go. So.
• 1:05:35
  It's not sweat I've got, I've got so down the legs.
• 1:05:39
  I've got a working out hat that is really disgusting.
• 1:05:42
  OK, I'll wear that one next time.
• 1:05:43
  What's that? Alice White?
• 1:05:44
  I've got the VPN. Oh yeah, BPM was.
• 1:05:48
  Then I've got the N241, you've got a Rhinostorm rocks one.
• 1:05:51
  The rocks one is manky. He's like white.
• 1:05:53
  Yeah, I can't wear that. One No, no, no, no.
• 1:05:56
  All right, so I've been a bit more practical with my gift.
• 1:05:59
  OK. All right, So I and I, I equally
• 1:06:02
  think you're going to like it. So this might take a while.
• 1:06:06
  It's heavy. Give me a second.
• 1:06:08
  I tried my best to hide it for the whole podcast.
• 1:06:13
  Entertain them, OK, I'll insane them.
• 1:06:15
  I'm tempted because I've got these hats in a shop where I get
• 1:06:19
  28 days to return. If anyone is a big, big fan of
• 1:06:24
  Green Bay, let us know. And if you now just let us know
• 1:06:32
  and I'll send you that. There you go.
• 1:06:34
  Done. Right on queue.
• 1:06:39
  Not not one pack. Oh my word.
• 1:06:43
  But 2 packs of the good stuff. So again, for those that aren't
• 1:06:47
  watching, I've just been gifted the ultimate gift, which is 2-4
• 1:06:53
  packs of monster of white monster, white monster, which
• 1:06:57
  is, you know, it's the, the eighth wonder of the world
• 1:07:00
  really at this point. And it is the most Christmassy
• 1:07:03
  drink you can get in the meal deal because it's because it's
• 1:07:08
  like why? It's like Christmas and and the
• 1:07:10
  meal deal, there are no Christmas drinks.
• 1:07:11
  I looked today when I was getting the meal deal that we
• 1:07:15
  had and I got I. Meant the stuff.
• 1:07:19
  Oh my, you, you've got amazing. Thank you very much.
• 1:07:22
  There's also just a for a listener warning.
• 1:07:26
  There has been a recent study that has come out about having
• 1:07:30
  strokes, I think, and consumption of energy drinks.
• 1:07:35
  I think I didn't go into it. I've dismissed it because I
• 1:07:39
  don't like the, I don't like the, there's a correlation with,
• 1:07:42
  there's a correlation there. But I think it was something
• 1:07:45
  like for people that were drinking between 4:00 and 8:00 a
• 1:07:48
  day, which I can firmly say I will not be getting through all
• 1:07:51
  of these in one day. Also like what do you expect?
• 1:07:54
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, as long as you're not
• 1:07:56
  doing that, you're probably fine, I reckon So, yeah.
• 1:08:00
  Thank you very much. More than welcome a Merry
• 1:08:02
  Christmas to you. And yeah, I mean, unless you've
• 1:08:06
  got, I mean, I'm going to ask you sincerely, have you got
• 1:08:09
  anything to say in review of the year or to the people before
• 1:08:13
  it's Christmas and and New Year? I wanted to say something
• 1:08:17
  really, really profound, but not really.
• 1:08:22
  That's so on brand. I love it.
• 1:08:24
  OK, great. I probably have lots of profound
• 1:08:26
  things to say, but no, I I appreciate everyone for
• 1:08:29
  listening or watching on YouTube over the past year like it's
• 1:08:32
  been this year's flown by. We've done 20 odd episodes.
• 1:08:37
  I think something like. That we've done.
• 1:08:39
  I think this is the 24th episode we've done this year.
• 1:08:41
  All right. Sorry, I'm not that specific.
• 1:08:43
  We've done You remember. You remember the episode
• 1:08:44
  numbers? Real well.
• 1:08:45
  So I mean, we've done loads of episodes, we've done loads of
• 1:08:47
  stuff. The podcast has kind of evolved
• 1:08:49
  and changed with suggestions from you guys and things that we
• 1:08:52
  think will be fun for you. And hopefully that continues
• 1:08:54
  into 2026 and it's a nice time of the year to look over the
• 1:08:59
  last 12 months and go, what have I achieved if we to bring it
• 1:09:02
  back to fitness, like did I set out any goals?
• 1:09:05
  Did I manage to achieve them? If I didn't achieve them, why
• 1:09:08
  not? Can I achieve them next year?
• 1:09:10
  And that's what I always do at the end of the year and kind of
• 1:09:12
  reshuffle my objectives and my goals fitness specific for the
• 1:09:16
  following year. But yeah, it's been a really
• 1:09:18
  productive year, I think for both of us and hopefully for you
• 1:09:21
  guys this thing as well. But you know, really enjoyed the
• 1:09:24
  podcast. Amazing.
• 1:09:25
  Well, it's been a pleasure to have you join for this year and
• 1:09:27
  continue into next year. I think for you guys that are
• 1:09:30
  listening, a lot of the feedback that we've had this year is that
• 1:09:32
  you enjoy the games, you enjoy the grind my gears especially.
• 1:09:36
  And we've had some really good feedback on some of the
• 1:09:38
  discussions we've had around fitness.
• 1:09:39
  So we definitely want to keep that going on.
• 1:09:41
  We will also do our best to discuss things from a more
• 1:09:44
  holistic point of view rather than just hierarchy specific.
• 1:09:47
  But as long as that we're still scratching that itch, it will be
• 1:09:51
  a it will be a, a sort of conversation.
• 1:09:53
  Topic until we change sport. Which probably isn't far away
• 1:09:56
  now that everyone's getting so far, but into next year, we're
• 1:10:01
  having discussions about ways that we can bring you more of
• 1:10:04
  what you seem to enjoy. So if you have anything else
• 1:10:07
  that you'd like to see in those episodes going into next year,
• 1:10:09
  then do let us know. We are looking at increasing the
• 1:10:11
  number of episodes that we can make.
• 1:10:13
  We're looking to be on your timelines, feeds, whatever far
• 1:10:17
  more often and we're looking to start to do some collaborations
• 1:10:21
  with some brands and events, which might mean hosting more
• 1:10:26
  events again. I'll talk about that in a second
• 1:10:29
  that you guys can get involved in and kind of get something
• 1:10:32
  back from for your loyalty with us.
• 1:10:34
  So please always feel free to reach out.
• 1:10:37
  We do read the messages. We do respond the same with any
• 1:10:40
  of the posts on the stories. Again, if something annoys you
• 1:10:43
  and grinds your gears instantly, message us because we love it.
• 1:10:47
  And going into next year, like I said, we hope to be far closer
• 1:10:51
  to you with more stuff for you to listen to, more things to get
• 1:10:54
  involved in. The first option comes on the
• 1:10:57
  4th of January, very soon. It's going to come around very,
• 1:10:59
  very quickly. So 4th of January, if you're
• 1:11:02
  looking to kick start your New Year's resolutions, then the
• 1:11:07
  place to do it is the rock SIM. So it's back at Unit 9 Arms in
• 1:11:10
  London, central London, the most accurate SIM in London as we
• 1:11:13
  have tried and tested time and time again.
• 1:11:15
  It's getting to the point now where I kind of don't want it to
• 1:11:18
  be accurate because I'm concerned about how accurate it
• 1:11:20
  is. We're going to get sued or maybe
• 1:11:22
  we're just going to be the next location on the event calendar,
• 1:11:25
  who knows. But no seriously, a massive
• 1:11:29
  thank you for all the support that you guys have shown this
• 1:11:31
  year. If you feel like you want to do
• 1:11:34
  a bit more than please share with friend.
• 1:11:38
  Yeah, do more to get in contact with us, drop a subscriber,
• 1:11:40
  follow Five star review. Everything like that helps far
• 1:11:43
  more than you know. And yeah, it just helps us
• 1:11:46
  continue to do more and be there more for you.
• 1:11:48
  So, yeah, thank you very much for listening.
• 1:11:51
  And Charles, unless I've sprung anything in your mind, but you
• 1:11:55
  gave us a beautiful little speech.
• 1:11:56
  It was very off brand then. We look forward to seeing you
• 1:12:00
  all in the new Year. Merry Christmas, Happy
• 1:12:03
  Christmas, and Merry New Year.