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- 0:00your sponsor choice at EXP
- 0:02could actually be more important
- 0:04than the choice to join the brokerage itself
- 0:07and most agents
- 0:08truly don't have a full understanding of sponsorship
- 0:11co sponsorship and revenue share before they join
- 0:15that ends today that's why we're here
- 0:17so let's get straight into it
- 0:18I'm Jeremy Kane proud member of the Wolf Pack
- 0:20and co founder of Carbon Collective
- 0:23a coaching and outcome based platform that we offer
- 0:27everybody who joins us
- 0:28if you're considering joining EXP
- 0:30book a call on the link below the re agent
- 0:32Wolf pack.com and we can go from there
- 0:34so let's talk about this first and foremost
- 0:37primary sponsor you get access to their top 5
- 0:40you know upline
- 0:42and then the co sponsor comes in
- 0:44and you get access to that person
- 0:46co sponsor didn't give you another tier
- 0:48or another agent of support
- 0:50it gave you a more relevant
- 0:52more recent one
- 0:53because six tiers above your primary sponsor
- 0:56used to be you know
- 0:57where you were at and now we take that very top one
- 1:01who could be not at the company
- 1:03could be retired could be wherever
- 1:05and we give someone a little bit more relevant
- 1:07maybe local to you we'll talk about that in a second
- 1:10but that's kind of the difference
- 1:11don't worry about any of the money
- 1:13the money comes from the standard EXP split
- 1:17every agent's on an 80 20 split
- 1:19you're taking the 80%
- 1:21the other 20% gets split in half uh
- 1:25and that's how the revenue share thing is based
- 1:27so it's not your money
- 1:29it's not extra money depending on who you bring in
- 1:32nothing like that changes
- 1:33the truth is
- 1:34it's all about the value that you're getting
- 1:36and how we move forward with your business
- 1:38and what you're looking at
- 1:39and here's the deal this is a permanent decision right
- 1:43primary sponsors before you do the application
- 1:45it's set in stone and then the co sponsors
- 1:48set five days from when you join the company
- 1:50so if you're watching this
- 1:51after you've joined the company
- 1:53you might have you know an exception to try and get
- 1:56but it's not that likely
- 1:58if you're thinking about joining the company
- 2:00and you're looking to find the right sponsorship
- 2:02and you're kind of sponsorship
- 2:04as they say I want you to focus on one thing
- 2:06I want you to focus on you your business
- 2:09this brokerage isn't going to
- 2:11completely transform your production business
- 2:13and all of a sudden
- 2:14because you put an EXP logo on your sign
- 2:17things are gonna change for you
- 2:18absolutely not
- 2:20the beauty of EXP is you can build that personal brand
- 2:22and you can put your brand on the sign
- 2:24and then maybe the accountability starts to catch up
- 2:28and your time and effort and energy put in
- 2:31in appropriate ways
- 2:32that maybe you get from some of the training we offer
- 2:35will absolutely help you grow your business
- 2:37but it's a you thing right
- 2:38so let's talk about that and let's see
- 2:41but when choosing a sponsor
- 2:43don't just think about your production business
- 2:45and how it's going to be affected
- 2:47and all the things yes
- 2:48there's amazing features
- 2:49we'll talk about features versus outcomes in a minute
- 2:51but here's the main thing
- 2:53if you are looking to develop an exit strategy
- 2:56and take advantage of the revenue share system
- 2:58and the exit strategy that is provided
- 3:01you very well may need to think that
- 3:04or just assume you're gonna get there at some point
- 3:06because most people do they're like dang
- 3:08I really want to do that ref share thing
- 3:10I like that residual income
- 3:11I'm sick of chasing the
- 3:13you know next deal on the hamster wheel this decision
- 3:17even though you may not even think
- 3:19or want to be any part of a recruiting scheme
- 3:22as they call it or whatever
- 3:24that could be
- 3:26extremely affected by your decision of primary and co
- 3:29sponsor let's first talk about features and outcomes
- 3:32there are a ton of downlines at EXP and since you know
- 3:37EXP has come and it's been around for a while
- 3:39it's kind of the the old dog on the block uh
- 3:43EXP the model
- 3:44has sold itself to the people that are going to be
- 3:46interested in it
- 3:47right now it's about features
- 3:49now everyone's adding what
- 3:51their courses or their mastermind calls
- 3:53or that kind of piece
- 3:54and so the features become more and more important
- 3:57and depending on where you're stacked
- 3:58is where you're going to have access to those
- 4:01we are in an entrepreneurial business
- 4:03and absolutely the fact that you know who you join
- 4:06and who they joined and who they joined before
- 4:08that is absolutely key to your success
- 4:11and I hear it all the time that people come in
- 4:14they're like oh
- 4:15I joined you know
- 4:16my aunt or my friend or you know someone local to me
- 4:19they left the company they didn't really do this
- 4:21and we're gonna talk a little bit about those mistakes
- 4:23at the end so make sure you stay till the end
- 4:25and I'll talk through those
- 4:27but let's talk about features versus outcomes right
- 4:30this is absolutely important right
- 4:33everybody sells on features
- 4:35but what you need to understand
- 4:37as the agent looking to join and name a sponsor
- 4:39and possibly a co sponsor
- 4:41you need to look at the outcomes
- 4:42so for instance if the feature is
- 4:44we have comprehensive training courses
- 4:46you have to ask yourself
- 4:47will this training course first of all
- 4:49will I log into it and will I do it
- 4:51will I hold myself accountable
- 4:53will it get me to X more deals
- 4:54or we offer weekly group calls okay
- 4:57will that provide the accountability
- 4:59I need to pop on to that zoom call
- 5:02is zoom calls enough
- 5:03to absolutely get me into accountability
- 5:06and get me into motion okay
- 5:08next one we teach
- 5:09you know agent attraction okay
- 5:11if I want five agents recruited in 12 months
- 5:14what's your proven system okay
- 5:16did you know that if you recruit five agents
- 5:18who then go off and do the same thing that you did
- 5:21you could be pushing a near six figure residual income
- 5:26if all of those five agents cap and then they
- 5:29they bring five agents that also cap into the mix
- 5:32within a year
- 5:33that's what we're talking about that's who's done it
- 5:36how have you done it
- 5:37what did you actually do to do that
- 5:39or did you just come across this guy
- 5:41and he grew out and you you know
- 5:43benefited from it let's talk about that right
- 5:45we provide CRM setup and tech support well
- 5:48the outcome question is
- 5:50will this actually convert more leads
- 5:52or just look impressive
- 5:53does the website just look prettier
- 5:55or am I actually gonna
- 5:55learn how to drive people to the website
- 5:58and do that does the CRM support the back end
- 6:01as long as I set it up
- 6:02and I know how to set it up through the training
- 6:04does that work for me right
- 6:06we have a massive downline revenue share team okay
- 6:09if my goal is 2K a month passive residual income
- 6:12what do I have to do to get there
- 6:13what support
- 6:14do you actually provide me in helping me reach that
- 6:17or are you just you know
- 6:19you pick cherry picking off of my list helping me grow
- 6:22yes but building a downline
- 6:25you know because if it's just my list
- 6:26I'm not learning how to cold recruit or warm recruit
- 6:29or outreach or those kind of things
- 6:30then where am I at so those are the things that you
- 6:33as someone looking to join
- 6:35need to be really really aware of here's the truth
- 6:38every EXP group offers different features
- 6:41and everything looks good on paper for the most part
- 6:44you have to make sure what it looks like
- 6:46after the day you join
- 6:48am I just gonna get blasted with emails
- 6:50I'm never gonna hear from anyone again
- 6:52what does that look like
- 6:53because if you know it get lost and spam
- 6:56you hear it once and it's gone
- 6:58that's the whole thing so what's that look like
- 7:00who how are you supported
- 7:02you're on boarding with me
- 7:03you're having a support call right away right
- 7:06when you go you get an email
- 7:08you get a text message it says hey
- 7:09book an on boarding call with me
- 7:11so we get you all the features
- 7:12so we can get you plugged in
- 7:14but then I'm the tour guide for you on those features
- 7:17which way do I go here if this is my goal
- 7:19how do I get there we have to create a path
- 7:22because the features are so extreme right
- 7:25and as a result of this features versus outcome
- 7:28we created Carbon Collective
- 7:29where we have different
- 7:31segments of our coaching and our training
- 7:34for you new agent to cap
- 7:36we're trying to add six to 10 deals
- 7:38to every single one of our agents pipeline
- 7:40every single year we just started this
- 7:43so we'll let you know how it goes
- 7:44and we'll let you know the outcomes for sure
- 7:46but we have a pathway call
- 7:48where we're gonna give you a piece of information
- 7:50so you can learn
- 7:51what you need to learn to grow your business
- 7:53and then on Fridays we're gonna have a coaching call
- 7:55one whole coaching call
- 7:57that we go into the breakout rooms
- 7:58based on your different segments
- 7:59we're gonna answer questions
- 8:00we're actually gonna coach you up
- 8:02teaching is very different than coaching
- 8:04and that's what Carbon Collective is all about
- 8:06and we have so we have new agent to cap
- 8:09we have capping agent to icon
- 8:11which the icon awards absolutely incredible
- 8:13as you can see four behind me
- 8:14and then we also have a revenue share system
- 8:17so we have pathway call for revenue share
- 8:19and a coaching call is there actually coaching
- 8:21training
- 8:22support for what you are trying to do in your business
- 8:25whether it's production or revenue share
- 8:27that's a question you have to answer
- 8:29ask yourself
- 8:30and see what the potential sponsor and co sponsor
- 8:34and the upline actually provides
- 8:36so let's talk about the biggest problems that I see
- 8:39and the biggest mistakes first and foremost
- 8:41I want local support well
- 8:43here's the reality of local support
- 8:45if local support if you have
- 8:47you know a team lead or something like that
- 8:49a revenue share organizations different than a team
- 8:52you can join a revenue share organization
- 8:54you can name sponsor co sponsor
- 8:56and you can probably still join that team
- 8:57so you might want to ask that question
- 8:59because you don't want to just completely
- 9:01sponsor with that team lead
- 9:02and then that team lead doesn't offer you anything
- 9:04if you're not on that production team right
- 9:06which usually comes with higher splits
- 9:08certainly some maybe some lead opportunities
- 9:11higher splits and and more obligation
- 9:14you're also building that person's brand
- 9:16the next thing I see is top producing agent
- 9:18in my market right
- 9:19this person is a top producer
- 9:20I wanna you know
- 9:21glean everything from them and I wanna learn
- 9:24not all top producers are good teachers
- 9:26and you have to understand that if you just walk in
- 9:28you say hey
- 9:29I I would love to name you a sponsor
- 9:31they're gonna say okay
- 9:32but you need to understand what they offer
- 9:34and are they set up to actually assist you and
- 9:37support you or are they just go
- 9:39go go go go
- 9:41right
- 9:41this is adjustment I had to make for my mentees is okay
- 9:45this is my business
- 9:46and I'm operating in my production business
- 9:48like you can kind of follow along
- 9:50but I had to create
- 9:51some sort of opportunity to talk to them
- 9:53to walk them through
- 9:54because they're not gonna just get it all
- 9:56from shadowing and how do I make that extra call
- 9:59when I have client after client after client
- 10:01oh yeah I'm doing this
- 10:02that and the other thing
- 10:03we had to get organized so that
- 10:05that could actually work
- 10:06so that's something that you need to also think about
- 10:09when you're naming one of those top producers
- 10:11a sponsor is it actually going to benefit you
- 10:14or are they gonna be too busy with their production
- 10:17and they're just going full steam ahead
- 10:19great question
- 10:20ask them if they're focusing on ref share
- 10:21if they have agents and what they offer
- 10:23their revenue share organization
- 10:25because the truth is
- 10:27they could have no agents and still be like
- 10:29yeah you know
- 10:30you can shadow me you can be my referral partner
- 10:32there could be opportunities there
- 10:34but just because they're a top producing agent
- 10:37does not mean that they're gonna be a top producing
- 10:39sponsor for you
- 10:41the next is I joined a week sponsor
- 10:42can I add a co sponsor the rules say after five days
- 10:46you cannot add a co sponsor
- 10:48um I'm sure that there are
- 10:50you know scenarios and it's not just weak sponsor
- 10:53I don't want to say that you know
- 10:54there's weak sponsors out there
- 10:56but they had a life change and they left the company
- 10:59or whatever non respondent sponsor
- 11:01all of those things this often happens when people say
- 11:04oh I just know this person
- 11:06and I'm gonna name them a sponsor
- 11:07and you have no idea what they offer
- 11:08their revenue share organization right
- 11:10so those are things
- 11:12and that's due diligence that you as an agent joining
- 11:14need to understand on the front end
- 11:17but also understand the importance of naming a sponsor
- 11:20and a co sponsor
- 11:21because it's really difficult to change it
- 11:24and you do not have to name a co sponsor
- 11:26but you may lose the opportunity
- 11:29after those first five days
- 11:30so you may want to consider
- 11:32you know looking at all of the options right
- 11:35and the next thing I see here is like
- 11:37should I pick a local you know
- 11:39person or a virtual powerhouse
- 11:41somebody that's somewhere else that's a powerhouse
- 11:44well define powerhouse
- 11:46are they you know
- 11:47a product of their situation
- 11:48do they have a group that's done a lot of great things
- 11:51and they just came to EXP
- 11:52and they're mostly attracting off of their name
- 11:55what do they actually offer
- 11:56what are those outcomes not the features
- 11:58okay
- 11:59let's talk about this because that's absolutely key
- 12:02and you know
- 12:03if they're not in the same town
- 12:05how are they delivering right
- 12:07how are they delivering that value
- 12:08how are they delivering the course
- 12:09how are they delivering the weekly calls
- 12:11is there a support system at EXP that's local right
- 12:15there certainly is it's called the managing broker team
- 12:18and the admin staff and yes
- 12:20you have they are paid salary
- 12:22through your splits and through your fees
- 12:24to have access to them
- 12:26so if you're looking at joining someone local
- 12:29just because you need that local support
- 12:32are they actually going to be your competition
- 12:34when it comes down to getting the ball rolling
- 12:36well if that's the case
- 12:37they better be really good at helping you get the ball
- 12:39rolling or it's not worth it right
- 12:41because you could have access to all of these other
- 12:45communities right
- 12:46within the Wolf Pack and within Carbon Collective
- 12:48that's one of my favorite things
- 12:49is there's no gatekeeping
- 12:51because the truth is
- 12:52we're all in multiple different markets
- 12:53and yes
- 12:54some of us crossover in markets and things like that
- 12:56but it's a mindset of abundance right
- 12:59this is not a normal mindset
- 13:01especially from the
- 13:03traditionally trained real estate agent
- 13:05so you
- 13:06as somebody who's thinking about naming a sponsor
- 13:08please don't think as a normal
- 13:10traditional real estate agent say oh
- 13:12I need someone local oh
- 13:13I need a brick and mortar office
- 13:15oh I need this
- 13:16what are the outcomes you're looking for
- 13:18and how are you as the agent gonna get there
- 13:20because right now if you're looking at naming a sponsor
- 13:24let's step back and think about this
- 13:26is anyone actually gonna get you to sell more houses
- 13:31probably not right
- 13:32yes of course yes coaching
- 13:35yes Carbon Collective can do everything we can
- 13:38but if you're not plugging in
- 13:39we can't do that
- 13:40so you need to make a commitment to plug in
- 13:43to whatever value and whatever
- 13:45you know system you do choose and upline you choose
- 13:48and you need to know what you're plugging into
- 13:50and you need to know what the outcomes
- 13:51you're going to get but at the end of the day
- 13:54selling six to 10 houses is not gonna change your life
- 13:57growing a Rev share organization
- 13:59absolutely could change your life
- 14:00it's willable so it could change your kids life
- 14:02and possibly their kids life
- 14:03so that's where we need to really step back
- 14:05and think about this
- 14:06and understand that the sponsor and co
- 14:09sponsor is absolutely key
- 14:11and where your upline is
- 14:13and what you can offer other agents
- 14:15because I bring agents into our group right now
- 14:18and they could bring agents into our group
- 14:21and they don't have to offer anything
- 14:23because we have social media training
- 14:25we have coaching for production
- 14:27we have coaching for Rev Share
- 14:28we have investment training
- 14:30we have flip training we have systems processes
- 14:32time management training we have CRM and AI training
- 14:35so there's all kinds of different things
- 14:37all balled up into one and this is something that you
- 14:40as someone choosing a sponsor right here
- 14:43right now needs to take a look at
- 14:45you want a no obligation no pressure call
- 14:48let's talk about it book a call with me below
- 14:50and we can make sure you make the right decision
- 14:53and not the wrong one