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On 'Wintering' and taking a podcast pause · Women of the Well | Women's health, done differently

• 0:57
  Dr Peta Wright: Hello and welcome to another episode of Women of the Well.
• 1:01
  Dr Peta Wright: I'm Peta.
• 1:02
  Dr Peta Wright: I'm Thea.
• 1:03
  Dr Peta Wright: And I'm Sam.
• 1:04
  Dr Peta Wright: So we just sat down to record this episode and we were thinking about what we were going to.
• 1:09
  Dr Peta Wright: Speak about today.
• 1:11
  Dr Peta Wright: And Thea and I were not particularly enthusiastic about whatever it is we were supposed to talk about.
• 1:17
  Dr Peta Wright: And Sam wisely said to us, I said, why are you doing this podcast?
• 1:23
  Dr Peta Wright: Is it the time of year where we should perhaps consider having a pause?
• 1:28
  Dr Peta Wright: And everyone just kind of went, ah.
• 1:31
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm, because, we had just spent, um, a bit of time in the kitchen going through all the things that we thought that we might want to share.
• 1:40
  Dr Peta Wright: And actually they're all things that we've already shared, or the doctors have really beautifully shared, um, much of their wisdom about.
• 1:48
  Dr Peta Wright: And so we could go over and over those things again.
• 1:51
  Dr Peta Wright: But the truth is we don't really want to do that.
• 1:55
  Dr Peta Wright: No.
• 1:55
  Dr Peta Wright: Or we could go further and further into little niche nuanced.
• 2:00
  Dr Peta Wright: Details of medical illnesses and diagnoses and treatment, but we are not really about that because we think so much disease and dysfunction comes out of a misalignment between, us and like our, our soul's de desire and like what's happening in our ecosystem and our environment, that it almost all that stuff for us feels like it's missing the point massively.
• 2:25
  Dr Peta Wright: And we don't wanna create something just for the sake of creating something.
• 2:29
  Dr Peta Wright: And we don't wanna have to talk about stuff just for the sake of talking about it.
• 2:33
  Dr Peta Wright: We don't wanna have to sell stuff, we don't wanna have to advertise things on this podcast, we really created this series.
• 2:40
  Dr Peta Wright: Up until now to give people a different perspective on women's health and maybe just like broaden that perspective to like how our health may be impacted by our environment, by our conditioning, by our culture.
• 2:56
  Dr Peta Wright: And I feel like we've done that.
• 2:59
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes, I think we've done that.
• 3:01
  Dr Peta Wright: And I think really what we were hoping to get out of this was to have a resource, mainly for our patients.
• 3:10
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 3:10
  Dr Peta Wright: But also for people anywhere in the world, but mainly for our patients to, I guess, have more of an opportunity to kind of have a deep dive and more of a listen to the ideas that we talk about in our consults.
• 3:23
  Dr Peta Wright: and I think, I feel like we've done that.
• 3:27
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 3:27
  Dr Peta Wright: Like we've recorded ideas about a lot of the conditions or all of the conditions that we commonly see.
• 3:34
  Dr Peta Wright: And exactly like you said, that kind of hopefully reframing a lot of those and taking blame off ourselves and off our bodies and thinking more broadly about the culture and the environment that we're swimming in.
• 3:50
  Dr Peta Wright: And I think I, I think it's a beautiful little collection of, um, podcasts and ideas.
• 3:57
  Dr Peta Wright: I remember having this conversation about starting a podcast.
• 4:00
  Dr Peta Wright: One of the reasons we were having it was because, Peter had written her amazing book and you were both being invited to go to things and do lots of speaking.
• 4:09
  Dr Peta Wright: The point was it wasn't something you really wanted to be doing the truth was, the idea of the podcast was to be able to have the conversations that we have organically under the tree.
• 4:19
  Dr Peta Wright: To share the information that you both believe in so strongly, and to be able to get that out into the world without you having to leave your home or having to leave Vera, which none of us really want to leave this beautiful area.
• 4:34
  Dr Peta Wright: And so that has been done , and it's been done rather organically in a sort of cycle of a year.
• 4:41
  Dr Peta Wright: Everything we've been talking about in the whole, time that we've been doing the podcast has been about cycles.
• 4:48
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 4:48
  Dr Peta Wright: And been about getting back to the natural, cyclical nature of living and how that can support us as women.
• 4:56
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 4:56
  Dr Peta Wright: So when our energy today was just low.
• 5:00
  Dr Peta Wright: It was a really good indicator that we needed to observe or become aware of what was happening.
• 5:05
  Dr Peta Wright: And the truth is, if we look outside today, it is the most glorious Queensland autumn day.
• 5:11
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 5:12
  Dr Peta Wright: The sky is blue and you can sparkly.
• 5:14
  Dr Peta Wright: It's sparkly and it's a little bit cooler and we can be outside and the sun is still hot.
• 5:18
  Dr Peta Wright: But we know that we are coming in towards that wintery time and it's always that time of going inward and actually figuring out what are our beliefs now?
• 5:29
  Dr Peta Wright: Totally.
• 5:30
  Dr Peta Wright: And I think if we relate that back to the menstrual cycle as well, like thinking about our inner winter, which we've talked about, which often can be a time of like deep introspection and creativity.
• 5:41
  Dr Peta Wright: And so, you know, thinking then about if we do have a pause over the darker months.
• 5:46
  Dr Peta Wright: What might come out of that.
• 5:49
  Dr Peta Wright: We might find a spark of creativity, but we might not.
• 5:52
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah.
• 5:53
  Dr Peta Wright: And if we don't as well, like, is that there's that fact that things, there are those endings that death that rebirth into something else.
• 6:02
  Dr Peta Wright: And that's something that in society and in our cycles and in ourselves and in.
• 6:07
  Dr Peta Wright: Our relationships we really push against and we can't accept.
• 6:12
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 6:12
  Dr Peta Wright: And so then that might be, you know, a situation where we would keep doing something we don't feel passionate about just to create something.
• 6:19
  Dr Peta Wright: And so I think if by taking this pause it does mean that this is the final one, then I think like honoring that beautiful ending and, um.
• 6:29
  Dr Peta Wright: And yeah, I think there's something, there's something beautiful in that.
• 6:33
  Dr Peta Wright: There is, and it actually does feel like a big exhale for me.
• 6:36
  Dr Peta Wright: It does.
• 6:36
  Dr Peta Wright: And it's also the whole thing of like, not resisting.
• 6:38
  Dr Peta Wright: Resisting what is, you know?
• 6:40
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 6:40
  Dr Peta Wright: Being with what is.
• 6:41
  Dr Peta Wright: That's right.
• 6:41
  Dr Peta Wright: And the feeling that we have at the moment is that this is a good time to stop.
• 6:45
  Dr Peta Wright: And if we were to resist that and push against it, perhaps what we would be delivering would be lacking the, like, the energy that we would want it to have.
• 6:55
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 6:55
  Dr Peta Wright: It is always about pushing against something when it's saying no.
• 6:59
  Dr Peta Wright: And that consistent pushing against, our boundaries, which as women, I think is one of the main reasons that there are these number of problems that occur in our system is because we've consistently gone against what it is that we really want to do.
• 7:14
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 7:14
  Dr Peta Wright: And we talk about all the time how there's this over medicalization and pathologization of women's bodies and our conditions and our cycles and our menopause and all of that.
• 7:24
  Dr Peta Wright: And then we, I don't wanna be adding really like it's, well, it's amazing that we all have information.
• 7:30
  Dr Peta Wright: The best information is actually inside us.
• 7:33
  Dr Peta Wright: Like not outside, not what some doctors saying on Instagram, not what some doctors saying on a podcast, but your own feelings and sensations and experiences of your body.
• 7:44
  Dr Peta Wright: And we don't really wanna add, I I feel very strongly that I don't really wanna add to that.
• 7:50
  Dr Peta Wright: Idea of you can't, like, you're not ever good enough or you have to continue to optimize.
• 7:55
  Dr Peta Wright: Optimize or you've gotta find a fault or a thing that's wrong with you in order to get help.
• 8:01
  Dr Peta Wright: Like I'm, and, and like, I guess if we are adding to that conversation and that noise with stuff that's just all about pathology or what's wrong with your body, I think that kind of amplify.
• 8:13
  Dr Peta Wright: That consciousness.
• 8:14
  Dr Peta Wright: And I think a lot of this has even come out of our last two weeks talking about victim consciousness and how are we adding to that, that we talked about it last week, like that desire to fix, fix people or that desire to get people to realize that there's nothing wrong and to remember the beauty and wisdom in their body, right?
• 8:32
  Dr Peta Wright: And I just want to be here and have, offer that other different perspective and support for people who are at that level where they whatever, when they're ready, when they're ready, and not that that level is a better level than any other levels.
• 8:44
  Dr Peta Wright: It's just that to offer that support when somebody is at that point, rather than having to force stuff down people's throat when.
• 8:51
  Dr Peta Wright: Quite frankly, other ways of being might actually be working for them during, at, at this time of their lives.
• 8:57
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah, I totally agree.
• 8:58
  Dr Peta Wright: 'cause sometimes I worry that we're giving another to-do list on top of the mm-hmm.
• 9:02
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 9:03
  Dr Peta Wright: Already huge to-do list that many of us, or many of you are, are subjected to.
• 9:08
  Dr Peta Wright: And that's when it becomes, um, an added pressure that can actually really just make you sicker and the point is, I don't really believe that there's anything that we need to do.
• 9:20
  Dr Peta Wright: It's the opposite.
• 9:21
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 9:21
  Dr Peta Wright: And so if we've ever made you feel that way, then we apologize.
• 9:25
  Dr Peta Wright: Um, well, I do.
• 9:27
  Dr Peta Wright: And, um, because the truth is there is nothing to do that the main, idea that we have come back to, or the main theme that we've come back to, every single podcast has been.
• 9:38
  Dr Peta Wright: It's the undoing.
• 9:40
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 9:40
  Dr Peta Wright: The letting go.
• 9:42
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 9:42
  Dr Peta Wright: The releasing the pressure.
• 9:44
  Dr Peta Wright: And by us doing this, we allow you to.
• 9:47
  Dr Peta Wright: So what is it in your life that you could decide needs a winter and can you let go of the fear of it?
• 9:56
  Dr Peta Wright: As Peter so rightly said, it might not come back again.
• 9:59
  Dr Peta Wright: It might be that it dies and never, never sprouts in spring.
• 10:03
  Dr Peta Wright: And that's okay too because sometimes that's what happens.
• 10:06
  Dr Peta Wright: Something new will come that's completely different from the beautiful, , sort of waste that was left behind.
• 10:13
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 10:13
  Dr Peta Wright: That's very beautiful, Sam.
• 10:16
  Dr Peta Wright: It was like the thing you put on Instagram about the tomato that was planted.
• 10:20
  Dr Peta Wright: Oh my gosh.
• 10:21
  Dr Peta Wright: Wasn't that just Yes.
• 10:22
  Dr Peta Wright: Well, I, I want to do that.
• 10:24
  Dr Peta Wright: I hope you're gonna do that.
• 10:24
  Dr Peta Wright: Would you?
• 10:25
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 10:25
  Dr Peta Wright: It was a video of a slice of tomato and it was under the soil and you could see it in time lapse.
• 10:31
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah.
• 10:31
  Dr Peta Wright: Imaging, and it was rotting, I guess, and then fungus, and then little tiny shoots, and then it, it, it was only 12 weeks or so.
• 10:38
  Dr Peta Wright: It was amazing.
• 10:40
  Dr Peta Wright: Sprouted out and then created a new tomato plant, which is amazing.
• 10:45
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah, so like I, I think, um, I, yeah, I would just like to encourage anyone, like, we don't have to identify with like illnesses, pathologies, things that are wrong with us, whatever's coming up for you.
• 11:01
  Dr Peta Wright: It's all an invitation.
• 11:03
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 11:03
  Dr Peta Wright: And like this idea that we can get somehow to live a pain-free life of no suffering whatsoever is ridiculous and means that we have no meaning and, and it means that we would be at the end of life.
• 11:17
  Dr Peta Wright: That's right.
• 11:18
  Dr Peta Wright: That's right.
• 11:18
  Dr Peta Wright: So that's right.
• 11:19
  Dr Peta Wright: It's like welcoming all of that stuff and using it.
• 11:22
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 11:22
  Dr Peta Wright: Well, I like Rum Ds.
• 11:23
  Dr Peta Wright: He says it's all grist for the mill.
• 11:25
  Dr Peta Wright: It's my favorite.
• 11:27
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah.
• 11:27
  Dr Peta Wright: Um, he also says another quote, which I think about all the time, which is.
• 11:32
  Dr Peta Wright: You can do it like it's a load you carry, or you can do it like it's part of the dance.
• 11:35
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm. Or there's no wisdom without suffering either.
• 11:40
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm. We need all of this, and I think this is our point where we're living in a society where it's like, every symptom should be fixed and everybody should be feeling this exact way and nothing should ever change.
• 11:51
  Dr Peta Wright: That's all a complete lie, and the fixation on it will keep you trapped.
• 11:56
  Dr Peta Wright: And keep you stuck and keep you beholden to like, like seeing doctors listening to podcasts like this, listening to, you know, doing all that stuff when really it's just accept every moment, welcome it all.
• 12:10
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 12:10
  Dr Peta Wright: And, um.
• 12:11
  Dr Peta Wright: And, you know, you are not just a diagnosis or a pathology or anything, and to be a woman, if you are a woman listening to this, um, it's like extra amplified levels of that, which means extra opportunity to use it, extra grist for the mill.
• 12:28
  Dr Peta Wright: Totally.
• 12:29
  Dr Peta Wright: Right.
• 12:29
  Dr Peta Wright: If we can see it like that.
• 12:31
  Dr Peta Wright: But um, and yeah, I feel really like as we sat down to record this, as we were feeling quite heavy about it . I actually now feel quite complete like I was thinking that before when you were talking Sam, I was thinking like that's entirely what we hope people listening to this podcast and patients that we see will do.
• 12:50
  Dr Peta Wright: Which is that learn that you have all the answers, and if you can turn inward and turn towards yourself, your body will tell you the answer.
• 12:59
  Dr Peta Wright: And we felt that today, like we felt it in our bodies.
• 13:01
  Dr Peta Wright: We were like thinking, should we try and make a podcast about something that we thought was kind of, um, putting more emphasis on, you know, the, the issues with our body.
• 13:10
  Dr Peta Wright: And then when we decided.
• 13:12
  Dr Peta Wright: We're gonna take a pause.
• 13:13
  Dr Peta Wright: We all felt a sense of relief, release expansion, you know, and we followed that.
• 13:20
  Dr Peta Wright: And also, if you are someone who's on a healing journey.
• 13:24
  Dr Peta Wright: Which I think many people will be.
• 13:26
  Dr Peta Wright: It's that thing of once you are like, if you can let go, go of the healing journey and just be that is so freeing too.
• 13:34
  Dr Peta Wright: Like there's a time where you can just stop.
• 13:36
  Dr Peta Wright: It doesn't have to be about the healing or the getting better or the improving.
• 13:40
  Dr Peta Wright: 'cause life is always like ups and downs and sideways and whatever.
• 13:44
  Dr Peta Wright: It's just all about living and it's about the journey, right?
• 13:47
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah.
• 13:48
  Dr Peta Wright: All of life is a healing journey.
• 13:49
  Dr Peta Wright: If you look hard enough, you're gonna find a problem.
• 13:51
  Dr Peta Wright: I always think this.
• 13:52
  Dr Peta Wright: Can't find what's wrong with you.
• 13:54
  Dr Peta Wright: Some person, whether it's a doctor or whether it's someone else, will find something to know that there's a problem.
• 14:00
  Dr Peta Wright: The truth is, you know, there will be something under there if you look hard enough, but you don't really need to look that hard if you step back and just can be with what is.
• 14:10
  Dr Peta Wright: There's a bigger picture and in the bigger picture is the capacity for you to.
• 14:15
  Dr Peta Wright: Discover what it is that you need to move forward and the discovery of what you need to move forward doesn't actually require a diagnosis.
• 14:23
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 14:24
  Dr Peta Wright: Or another person.
• 14:25
  Dr Peta Wright: No, no.
• 14:26
  Dr Peta Wright: But that's a massive sort of evolutionary step for some of us.
• 14:31
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 14:31
  Dr Peta Wright: And it's not something that you need to worry if you're not there, because I think one of the other things that, we have.
• 14:37
  Dr Peta Wright: Covered, um, in every episode is the importance of finding somebody that you can work with if you need to.
• 14:44
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 14:44
  Dr Peta Wright: Finding your team and knowing that that team can be made up of doctors, naturopaths, your best friend, , sisters, mothers.
• 14:53
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes, that's right.
• 14:54
  Dr Peta Wright: All the person you met in the past mm-hmm.
• 14:55
  Dr Peta Wright: With your child the other day.
• 14:57
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 14:57
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 14:57
  Dr Peta Wright: There are always wise women on every corner to the front and to behind, to the left and to the right.
• 15:03
  Dr Peta Wright: It's just a matter of actually just sitting and.
• 15:06
  Dr Peta Wright: Observing what the universe is placing in front of you so that you can receive the wisdom, and then from there, indeed grow your own.
• 15:14
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm mm and this time of year is a time of reflection.
• 15:20
  Dr Peta Wright: It's a time to go inward.
• 15:21
  Dr Peta Wright: And if we don't make that time for ourselves and give you permission to also stop listening to podcasts.
• 15:28
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm.
• 15:28
  Dr Peta Wright: That's another thing.
• 15:29
  Dr Peta Wright: That's a, that's a whole.
• 15:31
  Dr Peta Wright: You know, we, we need to get off technology at times.
• 15:34
  Dr Peta Wright: Well sometimes I think that, I think, you know, especially when you're driving and things, I think, when do we have silence?
• 15:39
  Dr Peta Wright: When do you actually just sit with your thoughts?
• 15:42
  Dr Peta Wright: ' cause we've talked about that so much.
• 15:44
  Dr Peta Wright: 'cause that's when you actually can sit and notice what's actually going on for you and what feels true in your body rather than, I feel like we've gone from this, um, no one kind of getting any information and pretty much being told that you are.
• 15:56
  Dr Peta Wright: Body was like wrong and you had to ignore what was happening in it to fit into the world, to just like an absolute vomit of information explosion everywhere.
• 16:08
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 16:09
  Dr Peta Wright: Telling you what's wrong with you, like there's, I mean, explosion in diagnoses and that yes, people will say it's because that things have been under-recognized, but there is definitely, a proportion of, not, not contagion, but what is in the zeitgeist or the public consciousness.
• 16:26
  Dr Peta Wright: And there's like multiple examples of those conditions that then people will, can identify with or pathologize things that can be normal human characteristics, which we often see with, um, like cycle things, things in the cycle.
• 16:39
  Dr Peta Wright: Like the idea of like getting all of our information from Instagram, TikTok, podcasts, et cetera.
• 16:44
  Dr Peta Wright: It's still outsourcing and it's still looking for out things outside of ourselves.
• 16:49
  Dr Peta Wright: Just like a doctor telling you this is what you need to do about your body.
• 16:52
  Dr Peta Wright: That giving you options, it's the same thing.
• 16:54
  Dr Peta Wright: It's really all we wanna say is all of that is inside and can only be felt and learned really from experience.
• 17:02
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm. And from paying attention.
• 17:04
  Dr Peta Wright: Without fear.
• 17:05
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 17:05
  Dr Peta Wright: And being safe in the knowledge that your body is okay and is working for you.
• 17:11
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 17:11
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah.
• 17:12
  Dr Peta Wright: And you know, that's the really good point because there is, we are in a stage of technology overload and it's um, you know, my yoga, we call it cold depression.
• 17:21
  Dr Peta Wright: It's where, you know, we were told that we would see a time where people are so overwhelmed by information mm-hmm.
• 17:26
  Dr Peta Wright: That that actually causes them, I mean, really what we were saying was it actually causes them to just go into a complete.
• 17:31
  Dr Peta Wright: Vagal collapses.
• 17:33
  Dr Peta Wright: That's collapses, right?
• 17:34
  Dr Peta Wright: You know that.
• 17:34
  Dr Peta Wright: Well, don't I think about that all the time?
• 17:36
  Dr Peta Wright: Like, you know, particularly with, menopause, but BM dds, it's happening with endo.
• 17:41
  Dr Peta Wright: Definitely.
• 17:41
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah.
• 17:42
  Dr Peta Wright: Like in earlier days you would've heard about these things from the women in your circle, older, you know, grandmothers and mothers and aunties and things.
• 17:53
  Dr Peta Wright: And now the information is just overwhelming.
• 17:56
  Dr Peta Wright: And I think it's making people scared.
• 17:59
  Dr Peta Wright: Well that the, the anecdote is it to, it is silence.
• 18:03
  Dr Peta Wright: To take that quiet time to venture into discovering what the voice of your wise inner self sounds like.
• 18:12
  Dr Peta Wright: Could you sit with yourself and just listen to the whispering voice because it's hard to find her voice or hear her with all the noise, and it's in those pauses that you may actually find that you get the answers that you've been looking for.
• 18:27
  Dr Peta Wright: And they might guide you back to listening to one of the podcasts.
• 18:32
  Dr Peta Wright: Again, they might guide you to see someone else or do something else where you need to find the support, but it will come from you.
• 18:38
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes, come from within because you generally know what it is that needs to change.
• 18:43
  Dr Peta Wright: All of our pa my patients know what it is that needs to change.
• 18:46
  Dr Peta Wright: It's just having the courage to do that.
• 18:48
  Dr Peta Wright: , I guess another part of our.
• 18:49
  Dr Peta Wright: Mission of our podcast would be to give people permission to, um, know that they're perfect and that their symptoms are telling them something important.
• 19:02
  Dr Peta Wright: It's not a dysfunction generally.
• 19:05
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm. Like there are some cases where maybe that's not true, but for many chronic things that we've talked about, it's often.
• 19:10
  Dr Peta Wright: Information from your body that's overwhelm, that where there's some overwhelm or misalignment, and that is valuable, valuable information.
• 19:19
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 19:19
  Dr Peta Wright: So if you can just trust it without that fear, you'll find the answer to your next steps.
• 19:24
  Dr Peta Wright: you don't need other people to tell you how you feeling or.
• 19:27
  Dr Peta Wright: Um, a diagnosis to, to, um, validate you or, that's right.
• 19:33
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah.
• 19:33
  Dr Peta Wright: It's really that learning to trust your body and learning to trust yourself.
• 19:37
  Dr Peta Wright: That's right.
• 19:38
  Dr Peta Wright: And if you're listening to this and you feel a bit lost and you think, oh no, don't, don't leave me, , no one's leaving you because.
• 19:45
  Dr Peta Wright: Peter and Thea are here and Vera is here.
• 19:50
  Dr Peta Wright: And at any point that you want to come, there's so many things that happen here that afford you an opportunity to come in real life and sit in nature and receive the healing of just being present with other women.
• 20:02
  Dr Peta Wright: So, you know, use the resources that we've created from the podcast and then the resources that you have on your website as well.
• 20:10
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 20:10
  Dr Peta Wright: The courses that you've made.
• 20:12
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 20:12
  Dr Peta Wright: Peter's book.
• 20:13
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 20:14
  Dr Peta Wright: . The cycle course.
• 20:15
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 20:15
  Dr Peta Wright: This is another great course that would really be beneficial.
• 20:18
  Dr Peta Wright: Fabulous.
• 20:18
  Dr Peta Wright: If you're looking at trying to get back in touch with your cycle for any reason, or don't use any of them, they're there if you need them.
• 20:26
  Dr Peta Wright: That this not anything that we feel the need to like have to That's right.
• 20:30
  Dr Peta Wright: They're there and they hopefully can help people when they need them.
• 20:34
  Dr Peta Wright: That's right.
• 20:35
  Dr Peta Wright: And yeah, and Sam is also here as well, um, therapist and yoga teacher.
• 20:41
  Dr Peta Wright: , and yeah, like also I think that's another thing that we have always been really passionate about is in person.
• 20:47
  Dr Peta Wright: Like online things, although it's good for accessibility for some people.
• 20:52
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm. The gold for our nervous system is in sitting with other humans.
• 20:58
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 20:59
  Dr Peta Wright: And like, it's like what we talked about, maybe we talked about it last week, or I think maybe we're talking about it in preparation for our podcast, but it's like all of this, , focus on somatic the, and all these therapies, which of course are great, but their therapies.
• 21:13
  Dr Peta Wright: Labeled as therapies that we have to buy in a society which is chronically dysregulated.
• 21:19
  Dr Peta Wright: Right?
• 21:19
  Dr Peta Wright: But if we just return to the simple practices that our ancestors would've done to help regulate our nervous systems so that we didn't need to then have therapy like.
• 21:28
  Dr Peta Wright: Being, sitting in the sun, being in nature, moving our bodies, sitting with other humans.
• 21:33
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah.
• 21:34
  Dr Peta Wright: Um, really sharing and being vulnerable.
• 21:37
  Dr Peta Wright: Dancing, singing, eating real food, cooking together, sleeping when it's dark.
• 21:42
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 21:42
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 21:42
  Dr Peta Wright: All of those things are the medicine.
• 21:45
  Dr Peta Wright: That is the medicine.
• 21:46
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 21:47
  Dr Peta Wright: And none of those things cost anything.
• 21:49
  Dr Peta Wright: And so, you know, we hopefully have opportunities for people to come here and, and, um, experience that, experience that.
• 21:57
  Dr Peta Wright: But you can experience that in your life today.
• 21:59
  Dr Peta Wright: And maybe just thinking about how you can do more of that, because then you don't need to heal from, uh, anything.
• 22:04
  Dr Peta Wright: 'cause you are, you are living in the present doing all of the things that support your body and your nervous system.
• 22:11
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 22:11
  Dr Peta Wright: So we give you permission to rest.
• 22:15
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 22:15
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 22:16
  Dr Peta Wright: And we give ourselves permission to rest.
• 22:18
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm, yes.
• 22:18
  Dr Peta Wright: And to enjoy the winter and enjoy.
• 22:21
  Dr Peta Wright: What's the story?
• 22:22
  Dr Peta Wright: Can you tell us the story again of that?
• 22:25
  Dr Peta Wright: Is it Perce or the undergoing under, went into the underworld, seen all the many D version.
• 22:31
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 22:32
  Dr Peta Wright: Absolutely.
• 22:33
  Dr Peta Wright: So we have to go down into the underworld.
• 22:35
  Dr Peta Wright: Whether it's Persephone, um, that we're using the story of, or Anana where the idea is, and this is connected actually to Venus and I'm pretty sure she is actually on her way down into that journey now.
• 22:46
  Dr Peta Wright: And as she goes down, she has to take off an item of her that she's wearing at every single stage.
• 22:54
  Dr Peta Wright: And the idea is that she won't ever actually be truly allowed to enter into the underworld until she is completely naked.
• 23:00
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 23:01
  Dr Peta Wright: That's the idea of, yeah, releasing all these beliefs, releasing everything that we've been taught or we've taken on that isn't ours, and coming to the point where we're completely bare and bare of clothes, bare of beliefs, bare of anything that is material at all.
• 23:19
  Dr Peta Wright: And then we can actually sit in the underworld and it's there that we can find that sense of truth because it's only really in the darkness that we, when we're.
• 23:29
  Dr Peta Wright: A bit scared.
• 23:31
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm. And maybe a bit afraid and lonely and isolated.
• 23:36
  Dr Peta Wright: That it's quiet enough for us to go, ah, this is, this is what I need.
• 23:42
  Dr Peta Wright: And when you then decide to venture out, if you decide, you do, whenever it is, you're ready, you only take with you.
• 23:48
  Dr Peta Wright: What you need and you've come to know your truest self.
• 23:52
  Dr Peta Wright: That's right.
• 23:53
  Dr Peta Wright: And you've left.
• 23:54
  Dr Peta Wright: You've questioned everything.
• 23:55
  Dr Peta Wright: And I think that's a big thing.
• 23:57
  Dr Peta Wright: Another big thing that we would wanna impart is the more we learn and the more we go on this journey, the more we just question absolutely everything we've ever been taught.
• 24:06
  Dr Peta Wright: From medicine to like society, to work, to life, to parenting, to school, to all of that.
• 24:13
  Dr Peta Wright: And I think just encourage you all to question.
• 24:17
  Dr Peta Wright: All of that and strip away those beliefs that don't feel right or good because, well, it's that, it's the, that's really important.
• 24:26
  Dr Peta Wright: It's, it's the feeling.
• 24:27
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah.
• 24:28
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm. It it's not what, you know, it's not so you can't get this from here.
• 24:32
  Dr Peta Wright: This is the thing.
• 24:33
  Dr Peta Wright: No, and that's really when everyone talks about somatic stuff, that's all it is.
• 24:36
  Dr Peta Wright: We can't get the answers from here, especially as women, we can't.
• 24:41
  Dr Peta Wright: And that's why we're women.
• 24:42
  Dr Peta Wright: 'cause we're women and so we get it from here.
• 24:45
  Dr Peta Wright: From the feeling.
• 24:46
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah.
• 24:46
  Dr Peta Wright: From being in.
• 24:47
  Dr Peta Wright: And so yeah.
• 24:48
  Dr Peta Wright: When we're experiencing sensations in our womb or any area like that mm-hmm.
• 24:52
  Dr Peta Wright: In their messages.
• 24:53
  Dr Peta Wright: And so we know, and I was just contemplating you said that the different changes that we have all been through on this year, if you just think about the journey we've all had, the evolution of the process.
• 25:04
  Dr Peta Wright: Which will continue of letting go of beliefs and , making changes in our homes, in our families.
• 25:11
  Dr Peta Wright: Everyone goes through it.
• 25:12
  Dr Peta Wright: It doesn't matter what stage of life.
• 25:13
  Dr Peta Wright: No.
• 25:14
  Dr Peta Wright: And so, yeah, the importance is it doesn't come from here.
• 25:17
  Dr Peta Wright: No.
• 25:18
  Dr Peta Wright: And it can't come from really from listening and trying to figure it out or thinking cause it takes courage.
• 25:24
  Dr Peta Wright: I think it takes a lot of courage to actually.
• 25:27
  Dr Peta Wright: Listen to what your body is telling you, and then act on that.
• 25:31
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah.
• 25:31
  Dr Peta Wright: You know, but I think it's almost like once you try it out one time and you realize how good it feels and that the world doesn't fall apart, when you trust your own intuition and take a step purely on that path, you realize the world keeps going.
• 25:49
  Dr Peta Wright: No one notices, and it feels so, so right.
• 25:51
  Dr Peta Wright: It's like when we first did one of those fire dancers.
• 25:55
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 25:56
  Dr Peta Wright: Well, well there's a lovely lady in Brisbane who runs women's fire dancers where there is a , circle of women at the beginning, um, where everybody shares.
• 26:06
  Dr Peta Wright: And then as evening falls, music is played and everyone starts dancing around a fire.
• 26:12
  Dr Peta Wright: with the option to remove items of clothing if it suits a bit like, yes, just like an honor.
• 26:19
  Dr Peta Wright: Like if it suits people and some people take off no clothes.
• 26:22
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 26:23
  Dr Peta Wright: Some people lie on the ground and watch everyone dancing around them, and some people take their clothes off and p prance around like a fairy.
• 26:29
  Dr Peta Wright: Or a deer and or a deer, yes.
• 26:32
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 26:33
  Dr Peta Wright: And I think, you know, it was confronting at first, but, but what did it feel like in your body?
• 26:40
  Dr Peta Wright: It felt, 'cause it's like against all of the normal things, it was very confronting, but then it felt like a return to an ancient, ancient knowing.
• 26:49
  Dr Peta Wright: And I think like it is like an honor because you come away from it.
• 26:56
  Dr Peta Wright: Having had almost like confronted the thing that really scared you and done it and realized everything's fine.
• 27:02
  Dr Peta Wright: And so many beliefs challenged that you're going, why isn't this like we said to each other?
• 27:07
  Dr Peta Wright: I think I probably said to you as I went going, when I was driving there, I was a bit nervous about, I forced you to come.
• 27:13
  Dr Peta Wright: You wanted to do it for your birthday, and then I said to you halfway in it, oh my God.
• 27:18
  Dr Peta Wright: Like why?
• 27:19
  Dr Peta Wright: Like the fact that this isn't normal is so strange, so wrong.
• 27:24
  Dr Peta Wright: It's just, yeah, because it is just connection to nature.
• 27:28
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 27:29
  Dr Peta Wright: To oneself.
• 27:29
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 27:29
  Dr Peta Wright: To the earth.
• 27:30
  Dr Peta Wright: Like to other women.
• 27:31
  Dr Peta Wright: This feeling.
• 27:31
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah.
• 27:31
  Dr Peta Wright: The feeling of like just dancing on the ground.
• 27:34
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 27:34
  Dr Peta Wright: Like the, with your bare feet.
• 27:35
  Dr Peta Wright: And so, yeah, like that, that was like that real con that just conjured up that idea of that feeling, you know?
• 27:41
  Dr Peta Wright: Totally such, and that, but that is the medicine, like that is actually the medicine.
• 27:45
  Dr Peta Wright: And we keep, we say it all the time, like if our patients could just come and we all dance together around the fire, sometimes we've run into them accidentally.
• 27:53
  Dr Peta Wright: But like if, as as women, we could all dance around the fire together, like that's, that's where the medicine is.
• 28:01
  Dr Peta Wright: And it's the, in this is that beautiful undoing of a belief.
• 28:05
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 28:05
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 28:06
  Dr Peta Wright: Undoing of something.
• 28:07
  Dr Peta Wright: We've been programmed to think that our naked body is wrong mm-hmm.
• 28:10
  Dr Peta Wright: And that our naked body is actually dangerous in some way for us to show it, or that it would inflict something in another.
• 28:17
  Dr Peta Wright: And I feel like that's something that is really is, is looking to be healed in most women.
• 28:23
  Dr Peta Wright: Yeah.
• 28:23
  Dr Peta Wright: That there is a fear of what will happen if I get naked, what will happen.
• 28:27
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm.
• 28:28
  Dr Peta Wright: The truth is actually exactly that.
• 28:30
  Dr Peta Wright: When I remember when I did that naked yoga at the end of it, I did just didn't wanna put my clothes back on.
• 28:34
  Dr Peta Wright: It felt so free.
• 28:36
  Dr Peta Wright: It was almost annoying to have to actually re-robe.
• 28:40
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 28:41
  Dr Peta Wright: And I want, I felt like I could just walk through the town naked.
• 28:44
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 28:45
  Dr Peta Wright: I didn't.
• 28:46
  Dr Peta Wright: But it's also like a, um, it's like a connection with a group of people that is uplifting and not around complaining about our latest thing.
• 28:56
  Dr Peta Wright: It's like creating an environment of joy.
• 29:00
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 29:01
  Dr Peta Wright: And, um, just presence, just pleasure and awe and yeah.
• 29:05
  Dr Peta Wright: And presence and things like that, which is so different in our society, right?
• 29:10
  Dr Peta Wright: You know, and so like, not that we're telling you all to go a naked fire dance at all, but that was just a, that honestly tell people to put naked on the full name.
• 29:16
  Dr Peta Wright: So, yeah.
• 29:17
  Dr Peta Wright: But it's just that thing of like feeling.
• 29:19
  Dr Peta Wright: What feels right in your body, even if like it's not what you've been told.
• 29:23
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm-hmm.
• 29:24
  Dr Peta Wright: because that's the greatest teacher that you'll ever have.
• 29:27
  Dr Peta Wright: Like, if nothing else, the end of the podcast is just permission to turn back towards yourself because, you know, without the need to label.
• 29:38
  Dr Peta Wright: Diagnose or fix.
• 29:41
  Dr Peta Wright: I'd like to extend a, um, thank you to everybody or anybody who has listened over this year.
• 29:49
  Dr Peta Wright: anybody who decides that this is remotely useful.
• 29:51
  Dr Peta Wright: It's been good and I hope that it has helped in some way or provided you with a, a different perspective.
• 29:57
  Dr Peta Wright: If not, that's also okay.
• 29:59
  Dr Peta Wright: We may see you again or we may not, but we are always here in this current form, but we're always here.
• 30:04
  Dr Peta Wright: Mm.
• 30:04
  Dr Peta Wright: Yes.
• 30:05
  Dr Peta Wright: And so it's, and so thank you.
• 30:08
  Dr Peta Wright: Thank you so much.