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#39 The Metrics of Pain Relief · Giving Pain Purpose with Lyndsay Soprano

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This is Your Pain Game podcast where we talk about the game of living in
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and with chronic pain and trauma, getting to the heart of how to heal.
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I am your host, Lindsay Soprano. On the show, I plan
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on discussing with doctors, chronic pain patients, ballistic practitioners, loved ones,
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and anybody that is interested in having their voice heard in the chronic pain and
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trauma world that we live in. If there is one thing that I do
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every minute of my life is I pay attention to how I feel. And
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sometimes it's good, bad, or ugly. Like this morning in particular,
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it took me about two two and a half hours just to get my feet
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to be able to be put on the floor and to be able to get
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my legs to function and my body to function. And I really work hard
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on like the mind over matter I have to, especially with the amount of
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energy I have, considering that I don't sleep in considering the way that I
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feel, I have to get up and I have to show up. I
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mean, that's just that It's what I do every day. And by mid
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afternoon I kind of start to feel a little bit more groovy, you know,
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I've moved my circulations going again. I've done my song, I've done
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my meditation, I've read, I've recorded episodes, and I feel so empowered
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after I do each episode. It always puts me in a groovyer mood.
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But then nighttime hit and I am kind of like alone in it. And
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I'm alone in it during the day, but I keep myself super busy to
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keep myself preoccupied. But one thing that's lacking in my life, and it
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wasn't until COVID, is physical therapy. And it's something for me that I'm
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avoiding. I know the reasons why, and the number one thing is I
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can't thrive most of the time to get there. And it's so freaking time
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consuming. And we all know that, especially in the chronic pain world.
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But anybody that's been in a car accenter, has had any kind of trauma
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to their body, knows the amount of time that it takes to take care
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of our bodies when it comes to physical therapy. So anyways, I'm having
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a really hard time finding a physical therapist that understands central nervous system disorders like
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CRPS. It's very, very challenging to treat, and I was successful with
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one guy in Los Angeles, but then COVID hit and then I'm not in
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Los Angeles full time anymore, and so I'm just like, oh, what
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am I gonna do? And so then I meet this guy named Bobby.
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His name is Bobby Aldrich. He is my guest today. He is a
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physiotherapist who has spent over three decades as an athlete, student, and educator
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of physical movement. His mission is to help others move with ease, grace,
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and power to eliminate pain, reduce the chance of injury, and maximize
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performance. And I am so soaked to have you on today, Bobby.
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Thank you for being here, Thanks for having me. Yeah, I mean,
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God knows I need to move with grace and ease again. And I
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was just telling him I did a five k in my wheelchair for the first
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time a couple of weeks ago, and it was such an empowering thing.
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But it was fifty percent uphill and it was nuts. I mean, it
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was muddy and rocky, and like, I'm like, do I need any
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more challenges here? But man, crossing that finish line was empowering. It
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was not graceful, and it was not easy, but it certainly was empowering.
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So anyways, thanks again for being here with me. I'm gonna roll
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out the red carpet for you, and i'd like to start to talk with
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you about movement and mobility and gracefully aging, because we're all aging as we're
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listening to this, and then we'll take it from there. Sounds good.
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So how did you get started with what you do? Well? I basically
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graduated from the University San Francisco with a degree in kinesiology and I went out
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and got one certification and it was certified Strength Conditioning Specialist and started with that
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and I was the smartest guy for that year. That's what I knew one
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thing, and I knew it well and that's what I was teaching, and
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it was like, that's all you do. But now after thirty years of
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doing this, there's so much information out there, all these different certifications.
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But now I have like nine certifications. I've gone through the gamut of things
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of learning and now I know there's so much to learn. You're always learning
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more and more. And what I came up with is a way for people
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to do movement at home with some tools that make it simple for them.
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And it's been the last ten years I've been working on that, and I'm
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just working on getting the word out because it eliminates pain. It helps your
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body move properly. All of us sit on computers texting all the things that
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are causing neck pain. Laying on those those red blocks back there, if
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you lay on those like I do every night. I lay on them for
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sixty seven minutes. It opens up my chest and shoulders and puts me in
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a good position, so my neck doesn't have that tightness that a lot of
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people have. So it's been years of learning. I'm always learning. I'm
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always grabbing some of the best guys as I learned from a lot of my
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vacatients at company, and talk to me about their pain and who they've seen
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and what they've done. So it's just a lot of years of experience,
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and I'd like to share it with your community that you know, you just
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need the blocks and the bands and you simply start to feel better because you're
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moving properly. So what he's talking about is, so he owns a company
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and he started as coming called BAM Metrics, and so he's and I want
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you to talk about these because there and I am not on this show particularly
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I am nobody that brings people on. Like I get people that are like,
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oh, I've got all these supplements and all this stuff. I'm like,
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no, this is not a salesy shows like stop it, like knock
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it off. But you're what you have is such an interesting thing because for
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me with my struggles, because I need virtual help, which you do,
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which is amazing, and your explanation of your products is pretty damn cool.
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So let's talk about bad metrics a bit. What your product is because a
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service, because it's pretty awesome. So the math is simply some boxes with
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the numbers on there that helps you see where you are in space. So
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if I tell you put your feet forty inches apart, you can actually do
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it on your on your own, and then put your hand on that red
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block which is six inches ten inches by twelve inches, and you put that,
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So my favorit at forty and my hand is off the mat at twenty
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on the block at twelve inches, you have exactly where you need to be.
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Right So a week later or during this workout, you can go two
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inches wider, so forty two inches and my hand at twenty one, So
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you're literally progressing your body with them your metric. You can see it yourself,
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so I don't have to be there to say, hey, go wider
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with your feet. No, go a little closer, Oh, go a
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little wider. And then what are you going to do tomorrow? Where are
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you going to come back to? You have no idea, no clue.
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Yeah, it's like it's like yoga. You're all over the place. You
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don't think. Yeah, and that's really interesting. I remember from our Meat
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and Greet how you talked about women, particularly where you were saying like,
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of course this is me being depraved, but women tend to when you say,
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hey, stand with your legs apart to a certain like extent, whatever
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we go wider? Yeah, right, I think our hips are this wide.
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It's like no, no, no hip right here we are talking about
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no wonder we opened our legs so wide. But it's but it's true because
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you don't really know where you're supposed to put your body. And I do
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yoga. Mine is now a little change now that I do some I'm in
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my wheelchairs so much more than I would like to be. But I'm changing
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that. But I get frustrated because I know wholeheartedly in yoga where I need
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to be like with my body. But I then I'll look at myself in
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the mirror when I'm doing it and I'm like, whoa, my leg was
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so not right where it was supposed to be and no, wonder my hip
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is popping or what have you? Um? So, can you use your
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tools? Can you use your mat in the blocks in yoga practice just out
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of curiosity? Yes, I have people that do it all the time.
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I take when I go do hot yoga and it I can sweat all over
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the thing, and you know, with a towel, just towel off.
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But it helps with This is the thing. If you're gonna do like a
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warrior post and you put your feet at, say, for example, this
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position, and you're at fifty nine inches for example, when you switch sides,
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you don't want to have your foot at fifty six inches or sixty three
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inches because all you're doing is teaching rotation in your hips. You're actually going
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to make it worse. So that's why people get injured in yoga because they
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don't place it the same on the other side, and it's actually teaching your
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body to be off. And a lot of people are better on one side
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than the other, so they don't really notice that they're stepping further on the
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right, but when they use them at it's exact. I set up,
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I'm at fifty nine. Then foot sides, I'm at fifty nine. When
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we do it again, i might go to sixty on this side and then
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I'm gonna go to sixty on the other side, and I'll notice a difference
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in Wow, it's a little harder on that side. I'm not as good
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on the right leg as I am my left leg. So it keeps you
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aware of, Oh I better do some foam rolling. Oh I better do
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some soft tissue work. What is it that you need to make it better?
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So next time it adapts. And that's why it gets such good results.
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I literally I feel like I'm a one hit one because I teach somebody
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one week, I see him the next week. In the third week,
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they're always feeling better, they're always moving better, and then they're telling me
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some story of what they did was better. Yeah, And I mean I
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love that because I mean my sweetie and I we live, you know,
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we live in Orange County and Los Angeles. We're going back and forth,
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and so our schedules are always super hectic, and we don't get to He's
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got personal trainer at my heart, and then I've got nothing. And so
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it's super frustrating because I used to be crazy active, you know, a
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hiking, skiing, biking, you know, yoga, all of that stuff.
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And so I've started to like kind of it down on myself about not
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being as mobile as I used to be. Even though I struggle with what
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I have, I know I can do things to better my body, to
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strengthen. I'm completely atrophied. My legs are like these little, tiny week
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things. It's been challenging to get back into the groove of anything because as
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soon as I start getting much of my personality type is, as soon as
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I start feeling even a remotely better, I push it so hard that I
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hurt myself and I go backwards. And so I think that it's super valuable
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to have a tool like this where I can go back and go Okay,
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lindsay, this is where Bobby is telling me to stand. This is how
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you need to stretch. This is what you do because we forget. We
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tend to put our pain before our game. And ooh, that's not terrible,
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Lindsay. We just tend to do that, you know, especially in
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the chronic pain community. And you understand that because you broke your back in
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a car accident for crying out loud, so you can talk a little bit
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about that, because that was what you were struggling with your back for like
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two over two years. Yeah, I was literally to the point where I
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would have pain all the time with things I would try to do. I
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played golf, i'd do basketball. I try out these different things that I
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used to do and I couldn't do it, and I'd always be in pain.
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And it took me six months, in a year, a year and
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a half. And I'm like to the point of like two years where I'm
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like, I'm sick of this. This is ridiculous. Where I was about
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to just say, Okay, it's true, I'm gonna sit on the couch,
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right. And I kept trying these different things and I actually found a
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couple of things that started helping. I was like, Oh, that feels
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better. Wow, that feels better. And that's why I tell people you
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have to be patient. You do not know how long it's going to take.
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But it's like brushing your teeth. You're not going to say like Oh,
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I'm tired of it. I'm not going to brush your teeth anymore.
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You've got to brush your teeth a little bit every day. With your body,
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and over time the cavities go away. It's just you have to do
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it. It's not fun. You might still be in pain and we might
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not figure it out for a while, but we will make you better.
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How much better, I don't know. Ten seventy percent, one hundred percent.
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There's a range for people. And if you had a major car accident,
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maybe you'll never be one hundred percent, but your quality of life will
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go up if you're doing these simple things because the body was made to move
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like this, and everyone should be doing what I'm teaching because it's not a
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way to lose weight. It's complimentary to anything you're doing because it's teaching you
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how to move properly. Your body needs to move in a certain way because
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it was made to do that. And too many people do the same thing,
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or the repetitive thing, or sit at a computer for eight hours and
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then go work out for one and think they're going to change their body.
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No, you have to mix it in those eight hours at your desk,
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get up, do this exercise when you're walking to the bathroom, do the
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wall windmill on the wall. There are these different exercise that you do at
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your office a minute, two minutes in between whatever you're doing, So it's
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like brushing your teeth. Get in there, do a little bit every day,
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and I promise you you're gonna feel better. Yeah, and and and
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that's a message that I absolutely need to hear because I get frustrated with myself
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because I used to get on my rower and row for forty five minutes,
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and then I would go do strength training, and then I would go for
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a walk, and then I would walk my dogs and that, you know,
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like I was doing three maybe four hours almost a day of active work
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on my bod and then now here I am. I don't even I can't
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even tell you the last time I sat on my rower. Nope, I
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have a hydro. I don't know if you've heard of them. They're so
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neat Because I used to like row when I was in high school in college
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and I loved doing it. So I was like, Okay, well I'm
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going to bring the water to the house. And we used it every day.
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When we first got it, we were super stoked on it and it
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was really good for my body because it was low impact for my feet.
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But I look at it every morning and I'm like, I'm going to get
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on you tomorrow. I promise. Well, what you need to do is
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get on there and do five minutes or two minutes. I know. Me,
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it's my brain going, lindsay you have to do all of this,
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and it goes. It makes me feel so overwhelmed, and I'm like,
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that's why I did the five k actually, because I was like, I've
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got to go out and improved to myself that I can do something for over
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an hour with my body, even if it was in my wheelchair, and
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it was really really great. It's a good reminder that we don't have to
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be a triathlete, guys. We just need to move a little bit more
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and do it the right way. I think that is the key with your
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system and your product and your approach to it, because we're doing it wrong.
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I mean we're all I've sat in a million yoga classes and none none
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of us looked like we'ren't know what we're doing well. The thing is I
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have videos that you will follow with the tools. That's literally like having me
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right there, explain it to you and what to do for soft tissue and
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what bands to use. And then at the bottom of the videos there's a
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kid's section so the kids at home can get started today. So if they're
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playing sports and doing things, mix this in just one or pick one video
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a day and do one video. It's one exercise. It shows how to
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phone roll, how to soft tissue, how to mobilize, and then how
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to use the band. And it's like, if you're just doing one a
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day, you're going to notice a difference in a couple of weeks, Like
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it's going to be different, you're gonna feel different. And then as you're
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mixing it in throughout the day, all of a sudden, you get home
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you're like, wow, not even stiff today, Like I sat at my
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desk all day, but I did these few exercises, and your body it's
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like craves the movement if you give it to it. If you don't know
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what you're missing, you don't know what you're missing, so you have to
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start doing it and notice, Wow, my teeth they're a lot cleaner.
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I had no cavities this month because you were doing a little bit. Okay,
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So on average, what does it take for let's just say you're treating
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me, for example, how many how much time would you want me to
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put towards my bod past day. Well, like I said, it depends
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on the person always, because it depends on your lifestyle. So I always
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say, fit this into your lifestyle. So if before you get on a
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podcast, you would do this one exercise, when you're done with that podcast,
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you would do this one exercise. One hour or two hours later you
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do another exercise, but you mix it in throughout the day, so at
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the end of the day you can go like, oh, I'd like to
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do a couple more, or I'm done and I'm going to go off to
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the next thing that I like to do. So there's no specifics I give
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you, but at least you need to do one a day, at minimum
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one a day. Mix it in there and start that process. Just like
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I said with the rower, it's not about the time. Literally get on
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there and do one minute and then get off because you're gonna lease go.
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I feel guilty like I should do two minutes and two will lead to four,
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will lead to seven. All a sudden, you did twenty five minutes
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and you're gonna be like God, I feel so good today. I did
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twenty five minutes. It's more mental than physical, because the physical side you'll
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chase the feeling once you started. The biggest thing I have I had a
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lady yesterday who I've been training for ten years and I see her three times
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a week. She said to me, yesterday's all. I always have a
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tough time walking down the stairs to go to the gym, But when I
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get there and I kind of get in the mode of it, I start
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picking up the pace where I'm gonna like all of a sudden, I was
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here for an hour and a half and she is not a workout lady.
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This lady started as non workout as possible. She saw me half an hour
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once a week, and I said to her, Mary, I cannot see
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you once a week for half an hour. I feel like I'm stealing your
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money. You have to come twice a week. So we went to twice
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a week for half an hour. Then I got her to forty five minutes
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twice a week. Then I got her to an hour twice a week,
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and then COVID happened and we kicked it into gear of three times a week,
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and she was the only person I was seeing in person, so I
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would go to her. I'd see her, and we started this program.
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But now she's stuck on what we've been doing during COVID straight through and kept
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it going three times a week. But on the off days I see don't
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see her. She'll go down there by herself and do the same stuff.
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She'll go through it all. It's amazing, that's awesome. Yeah, she's
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a she's sixty four years old, carries forty pound dumbbells in each hand and
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walked for a minute and in between jumping rope for one minute. Okay,
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that's your routine. Oh but I'm telling you couldn't curl a five pound weight
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when we started. Well, so I tell you, I've seen these different
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things of people improving. Draft Head an eighty seven year old woman who I
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trained for three years. When I started with her, she'd squat with five
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pound weight and she thought that was a lot. When we finished at ninety
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okay, she was doing a fifty pound weight for twenty reps. Squad the
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way hold it, touch the ground, stand back up, a dumbbell,
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a fifty pound dumbbell, touch the ground, stand back up and this is
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a little frail, gray haired ninety year old woman who was doing it,
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and I was like, man, our bodies can really handle a lot.
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The thing that we have top with is our mental approach to what we're doing.
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And that's one of the things we want to talk about is people can
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hold their pain in their brain all the time, they're gonna go find it,
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and when they go on vacation for three weeks, all of a sudden,
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the husband says to me, she hasn't mentioned her back pain the whole
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time we were gone, Like she mentions it every day when we're home,
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but she never mentioned it when we were gone. Because it's fun, you're
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out of your environment, you're not thinking about the pain. So you guys
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got to look at that how you're handling your pain mentally. Sometimes you hold
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on to that and you want to hold onto that because that's kind of now,
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your fan is your pain, Our identity is what our identity? Yep
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exactly, Yep, totally, And I'm glad that you bring that up.
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It's something I'm working with this gal, her name's Katie Wriggley, but I
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work with her and something called Cogno Movement and there's a soccer ball that's sitting
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behind me that Bobby can see what I can't. It's got like it's got
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all these different colored chakra things on it, and I know it sounds kind
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of woo woo, but it is really interesting because she's been helping me with
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my concussion, and it is all about your brain and how your brain ends
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up processing pain and to kind of help with because my brains I've been really
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brain fogged since the concussion. I'm already brain fogged anyways, with a CRPS
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and absolutely no sleep. But it's really interesting when you do take the approach
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when you think about it, like we're talking about when we go on vacation,
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you're on vacation, like we were in Italy over the summer last summer.
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I don't think I even mentioned much pain at all. We were just
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and I was in my wheelchair and I was doing the freaking coliseum in my
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in Rome in my wheelchair, and it was painful, but we didn't talk
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about it. It was it was I was in Rome and I'm like whoa,
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And my pain was significantly lower because as I wasn't thinking about it all
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day long, I wasn't talking about it. You look at like these people
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that have had their legs amputated and their freaking Olympian snowboarders. I'm like,
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Jesus, I am a loser, like I'm winding about rowing, but yeah,
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like it is nuts, And I know I have it in me.
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I have that grit and that I have that in me. I wouldn't be
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where I am today if I didn't. But I definitely struggle. And I
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know that a lot of people that live in chronic painting you understand it.
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You were like so frustrated and so bothered and upset and irritated and all of
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it, because it's it's annoying to have your body not be working for you.
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But we are doing things in our lives that are working against us.
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And one of them is I'm going to call myself out on it, like
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I have. I need to just get better about getting back into quote unquote
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the gym, which I don't do the gym thing, but I do at
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home stuff. Well, you just you just have to get started. You
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just have to stay. I finished work today, I'm gonna go do this
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and you're just gonna go do it. Five minutes, go do it I'm
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done with that. I don't want to do that. I'm not trying to
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make people fitness people. Okay, those people are easy. Thank you for
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saying that. Yeah, thank you for saying that. Because I think fitness
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and jim and diet mentality, all of that makes us all kind of be
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like, Ooh, I don't want to be a gym rat. I don't
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want to be that person. That's not who I am. I never will
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be that person. How can we more gracefully exercise in our homes? I
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mean, we all got used to having to do things from our home during
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COVID. I've worked from home for twenty five years, so I know nothing
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other than this. It's just beating home all the time. I have no
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excuses. I have none, but I'm making them. I have no excuse
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that I am not sitting on my rower. I have to do my sauna,
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I do my journal, and I do my meditation. I do.
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I mean, I follow all these things. I'm a very disciplined human being,
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but I am blaming my body for me not helping it right now physically
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and like in the exercise world. And this is why you're here, is
21:52
to help us understand that We don't have to be gym rats. Yeah.
21:56
Yeah, most of my people could do their exercises in their clothes. Just
22:00
come home from working in your clothes. You don't even have to change.
22:02
You can do this stuff heels and all. Yeah. Safe, but yeah,
22:10
I mean it's just if you do these few movements and you mix them
22:14
in, your pain's gonna start to go away, okay, or get better,
22:18
and then your performance whatever it is you like to play golf, for
22:21
pickle ball or you know, go for a run or things that you're trying
22:23
to do, your body's going to be more efficient. Oh I'll give you
22:26
guys a funny story. My son is now sixteen, So four years ago
22:30
he was twelve. I was at baseball practice. I have a baseball facility.
22:33
Okay, this is my zoom and home gym and camera thing, but
22:40
my gym. We had all the twelve year old baseball players there. They
22:42
finished their workout and said, hey, we want to have a bench press
22:45
contest with the bar and they said okay, So my son gets on there
22:48
and they do it. Then the high school kids they did like eighteen.
22:51
Then the high school kids jumped on and said, we want to do it.
22:53
And they did thirty eight. Then the college kids jumped on and they
22:56
did seventy eight. Then they said, Bob, how many can you do
22:59
it? I'm like, oh God, don't bench press like that anymore.
23:00
I just do like medicine ball push ups on my nat So I'm thinking,
23:04
God, when I could bench three fifteen, I could do about one hundred
23:07
and four. Okay, So the best kid at seventy eight, So I'm
23:11
thinking seventy eight. It's gonna be hard. Okay. So I was nervous.
23:12
I gotta get on. There're gonna beat seventy. I get on there.
23:15
There is all these kids. Yeah, yeah, they're all watching me,
23:18
and I'm the guy, right, I'm the guy that helped all these
23:19
people. So I got to do more than them, right ego wise,
23:22
Right, here we go. So I start going seventy five hundred, one
23:26
fifty, two hundred. I did two hundred. I doubled what I could
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do back when I was stronger. I can only like two fifty now,
23:36
right, So I'm not as strong, but I'm way more functional because my
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ear, shoulder, hip, and knee and ankle are all in line,
23:44
and my chest and shoulders were in the right position, so I never got
23:48
tired in my shoulders when I did it before. I'll never forget the feeling
23:52
if I couldn't extend my arms because my shoulders were killing me because it was
23:56
in the wrong position. So not only are you going to be more function,
24:00
you're gonna move better and feel better. That's why you feel better because
24:03
you're moving properly, so the repetitiveness isn't gonna bug you anymore. And that's
24:10
the day I walked down and going I knew my program work, but I
24:12
didn't know it was working that well. That was like I opening to me
24:15
to go, holy shit, this is really really working. I'm stronger and
24:19
more functional, and I'm older and I'm not as strong, and I was
24:25
like, oh my god, this is a win win win. So yeah,
24:27
that's a great story for people to really comprehend. Being more functional will
24:33
make you stronger, will make you crack the whip harder. When you're playing
24:36
sports, it'll move better, and repetitiveness won't bug you. Running your knees
24:41
won't hurt, your back won't hurt when you're playing golf, so all these
24:45
little things. Going for a walk, you'll just your hips will move better.
24:48
So you'll just you can walk further, so all those sort of things
24:52
just so you guys understand the benefits of what you'll get out of it.
24:56
Yeah, I mean it's really neat. And I'm sitting here like, well
24:57
he's and I like started sitting up a little straighter and I put my shoulders
25:03
back, and I'm like, because we all sit. I mean, I
25:04
sit all day long. It starts at seven am, I'm here and I'm
25:10
done at about seven eight o'clock at night. That's what I do. I
25:12
move a round. I know, I know it's terrible, but a lot
25:15
of it is this podcast. And also I do run. I do run
25:19
my marketing agency too, so I have a full time job. And then
25:22
this has turned into a full time job. And then my body's a full
25:25
time job, and my sweet is a full time job. And we've got
25:26
two dogs and we're moving back and forth mousehouse. It's like it's a lot,
25:30
But I love that you're because my the way that I walk now,
25:34
I've made all of these like weird changes in my body so that I can
25:40
actually walk, and I walk on the outside of my feet. I drive
25:44
at the outside of my ankle when I can't drive. I'm now having to
25:47
break both feet, which has been very challenging to slam myself up against my
25:52
steering wheel. But I've made all of these over time. I've made all
25:56
of these like adaptive moves for my body so that I could just keep walking,
26:00
and all of them are now starting to hurt, Like my hips are
26:03
hurting, my knees are thrashed from me walking on the outside of my feet,
26:08
and so I've there are all of these things that I think can be
26:11
remedied by a lot of what you're talking about and using your product as well,
26:15
because it's something that's for me. I'm super visual too when it comes
26:21
to somebody like me, for example, who's completely out of whack, like
26:23
my ribs were popped out the other day. My caropractor was like, what
26:26
the hell? I'm like, yeah, I don't know either, but like,
26:30
what do we do for um like people like myself? Like I need
26:34
to I need to get started immediately on this because I need somebody like you
26:38
so badly and so many others do. How do we we just break that
26:42
wall down and we just go, Okay, we're gonna do two minutes today.
26:45
We're just gonna keep ourselves motivated and get rolling. Do you have um
26:51
you said you work virtually correct? Yeah, yeah, Okay, that's awesome
26:55
because that's that's part of my problem. And a lot of people in chronic
26:59
pain that can't drive or they have to take a lift somewhere. I personally
27:03
will not take a lift by myself because I have to have my wheelchair and
27:06
I have to throw it in the back and there I have safety issues from
27:08
trauma stuff. Then my listeners will know a lot about that. But I'm
27:12
like the lift guy. My brain goes crazy and that's like, okay,
27:15
I'm gonna have picked by a lift iver raising to see me in a wheelchair.
27:18
He's gonna know that I can't run and then I go like down my
27:22
slippery slope and now I'm raped and killed on the side of the road.
27:25
Great, you know. And so we've challenges in the chronic pain community to
27:30
get places to help us. And I love that you can do this virtually
27:34
with us because it's really really important to people like myself. And we're all
27:38
starting to kind of get used to being at home up more than we used
27:42
to. And I think a lot of us have gotten like, oh,
27:45
I kind of like this idea, this is groovy. Well, now the
27:48
whole thing is for me, I do a lot of this stuff in front
27:51
of the TV. Like I lay down the floor and I'm gonna use a
27:53
block for example today and I might go through three, four or five exercises
27:56
with the blocks, and then tomorrow when I sit in front of the TV,
28:00
I might use the bands, and then the following day I might go
28:02
I'm going to do some a few of those exercises on the mat. But
28:06
I just mix it in throughout the week while I'm watching TV, so I'm
28:08
not wasting my time watching TV. I literally I have a TV right there
28:12
where I'll put my legs widespread and just sit against the bookshelf like that and
28:18
watch TV there. And I'll move my legs in different spots just so it
28:22
flattens out my back and lengthens my hamstrings and calves, and I'll kind of
28:25
move my hips. But I do things right in front of the TV.
28:27
Just for example. You just were talking about people that sit all day for
28:32
seven to seven kind of thing. One of my tricks is this. I'm
28:34
sitting on a stability ball right now. This ball right down, so I
28:41
sit on this and so they did a study with women in an office where
28:47
they all sat on a ball. They didn't tell them how to change their
28:48
diet, they didn't do anything. On average, I forget if it was
28:52
six weeks or six months of sitting on the ball, they lost four to
28:56
six inches on average around their way. Yeah, because the whole time you're
29:02
working on your core, you're trying to hold your posture up, you're paying
29:04
more attention to you're intentionally sitting. Yeah. They don't even think about it.
29:08
You're just moving around. So the stiffness you have on your knees from
29:11
just sitting there, you'd be doing yeah, So your knees wouldn't be a
29:15
stiff, your hips wouldn't be a stiff. So when you stand up,
29:18
your back isn't stiff because you've been sitting there and engaging the core sitting on
29:23
the ball. It might not look like I'm moving, but if I put
29:26
a slow motion camera on me, my hips are doing this. They're moving
29:30
around the whole time, all am on my ball. So well, I
29:33
can tell that you've been bouncing and around and moving the holla A type personality.
29:38
Yeah, I know me too well, And they've got really neat chairs
29:41
that actually have a ball in them. I've seen them. It's like,
29:47
that's stiff. Okay, that's what I wanted to ask, because you're still
29:49
sitting there and it's not moving. You're just sitting on a ball that doesn't
29:53
have thank you, cushion. That's a gadget that you will buy for the
30:00
good. I'm glad that you said that. I know, well, because
30:03
we get we get pulled into the gym athletic culture because no matter what it
30:07
is, let's just say you're a normal person. You're not in chronic pain.
30:10
What have you. We've all been there where we're like, God,
30:11
I've packed on a couple of lbs. I'm inn you know, all the
30:15
stupid New Year's resolutions. We get completely bombarded with products in the New Year,
30:19
you know, because we're on you know how it is. Everyone's out
30:21
in their yoga pants, you know, January second, running around like they
30:26
found there there. We're getting this is the year we're gonna lose weight or
30:29
whatever it is, and we fall into all of these traps supplementation that's totally
30:33
bad for us. In some places. I mean I believe in supplementation,
30:34
but in some places, absolutely not and then all of these gadgets that you
30:38
like you just said, like, we fall into that, and chronic pain
30:41
people do too, because we spend so much money to feel better. And
30:45
from what we're talking about right now, I am like really pissed off at
30:49
myself that I haven't found you sooner, because I we all fall into those
30:55
traps in chronic pain where we're like, Okay, it's gonna be this this
30:57
wedge or this mat or this or that, and we just I have a
31:00
garage bull crap that I'm never going to use, never going to use them,
31:03
you know, because I fell into all of these traps without any guidance
31:07
either. And that's a problem too. Exactly. People don't know what they
31:11
don't know. And this is not just people, this is trainers. Trainers
31:15
are in a pigeonhole way of teaching. A yoga teacher teaches yoga, a
31:22
professional athletic trainer teaches those guys for baseball. I just met the Texas Rangers
31:27
trainer and was talking to about the injuries in Major League Baseball, and I'm
31:30
like, what are the major issues you guys are having? He goes growing
31:33
in hamstring and I go, why would you guys have have growin in hamstring.
31:37
If you're actually doing mobility properly, they should not be pulling their hamstring.
31:42
These baseball players, they just have to run down first base, right,
31:45
and there's things you do that you can't pull your hamstring if you're doing
31:51
them. It's because they don't know what they don't know. And so at
31:55
the highest level, I've been following the highest level for thirty years, so
31:59
all these guys have been stealing from But I'm shocked in baseball how many injuries
32:02
they still have. When I hear a hamstring pull, I go ignorant on
32:07
what they're doing. They should not be pulling their hamstring. So you just
32:10
don't know what you don't know. And people are always chasing the shiny object
32:14
or the new thing, thinking that's going to change it, or the new
32:16
supplement. Oh that's gonna make me thin. They're chasing all these things,
32:20
and I say to them, if you just do the basics, you're gonna
32:23
feel better. You know. It's like, I'm not a big supplement guy.
32:28
I only use Athletic Greens. It's got the multi vitamin, the different
32:30
things in there. It's one thing I'm not going to have fifty things like
32:35
people do all these pills are it drives me nuts. I'm like, I'm
32:37
not swallowing thirty pills today, Like this is ridiculous. The other thing.
32:42
The other thing is you go in and get a quarti zone shot. Yeah,
32:45
that's gonna make you feel better, but you're not going to feel the
32:47
pain when you do the movement. So your repetitive movement is hurting it worse.
32:53
So three months later you're gonna need another shot because you're gonna go God,
32:57
the shoulders killing me again because it or off. Pain is sometimes a
33:01
good thing because it's telling you, hey, be aware. It's a red
33:06
light, okay, And then when you start doing some of these exercises,
33:08
it becomes a yellow light until eventually we get it to be a green light
33:13
where you can go and do anything you want. But for a lot of
33:16
you, the pain is a good thing. Don't mask it up by taking
33:20
ivypros in popping pills to cover it up. Work around the pain and find
33:24
out why do you have the pain there? There's a reason it's there,
33:28
right, We have to work on that and fix that and you'll start feeling
33:31
better long term. And it's got to be lifestyle. It's not a jump
33:37
in. I'm going to put two hours in every day for the next six
33:39
weeks and then you stop. I'd rather do five minutes a day, thirty
33:44
five minutes a week of good movement, and two weeks later you up that
33:49
I'm going to do ten minutes every day. Now you're at an hour,
33:52
right, and we just keep getting better at the time that you have the
33:54
efficiency of moving with the efficiency of the exercises, so you're doing things to
34:00
massage out your body. Basically, I'm like amstused chiropractor, fitness trainer.
34:07
It's all in one. You're gonna do this yourself and be able to manage.
34:10
I had a guy here the other day who played on the tour who's
34:14
now I think he's fifty eight, and in about twenty minutes I had his
34:16
hips moving so much better. He goes, Bob, I've had this like
34:21
forever, and I just showed him how to roll it out and how to
34:24
move it with a band, how to roll it out and move it with
34:27
a band, and all of a sudden, he's going, like, my
34:29
hips have never felt that. Lucy called me later on that night and said,
34:31
Bob, I feel great. He went out and played golf. The
34:35
next day. He said, Dude, I had no pain all day to
34:37
day. I always have pain in my performance always. It always grabs me
34:40
and ah, it makes my golf swing worse. And he's a very high
34:44
level golfer, so he notices all the things that go on with his body.
34:47
So it is that simple sometimes to make some fixes and adapt to it.
34:52
But sometimes it's super complicated too, in the way of, hey,
34:55
that didn't work for you. Oh that didn't work for you. Oh that
34:59
didn't That's okay. We're getting information. That's all it's doing. Is the
35:05
pain's given us the information that we need. Where if you go and mask
35:07
it up with you know, pills or a quarter zone shot and stuff like
35:10
that, we can't really fix you because we don't know what's working. I
35:15
agree with that. Yeah, no kidding. And it's something that I went
35:17
completely. I don't take any pain pills. I don't take anything. Actually
35:22
I do THHD and CBB in the evening, but other than that, I
35:25
don't take anything. And I mean, I love my red wine, but
35:30
I guess I will not I will not do the pill thing. I went
35:34
there and it was a very scary place and it is unfortunately, and CRPS
35:37
is called the suicide disease, so you don't give people that have the suicide
35:42
disease pills that say may give you suicidal tendencies, because it was it was
35:46
really, really scary, and I've unfortunately, we've lost a couple of people
35:51
in our community in CRPS to suice. I lost year specifically, we lost
35:53
a lot And it's a scary messages in the back of your brain every day
35:59
that you and I have to like shut it down because the pain is so
36:02
incredibly high as the RPS that on the McGill's pain scale is higher than natural
36:07
childbirth. So it's like no joke and you would never guess it, you
36:10
know, with me. But it part of it is because it is my
36:14
mentality, like you talked about, is that I do. I wake up
36:16
and I show up and I'm not gonna have it be any other way because
36:19
I've seen what it would do if I didn't do what I do, And
36:22
I, like you said, sitting on the couch watching Netflix, feeling sorry
36:25
for yourself, it's not happening. It's not happening, not on this watch.
36:29
It's hard way sometimes it's really hard sometimes to start that process and not
36:34
be frustrated because you've been trying it for weeks, months, years. I've
36:37
tried everything. I've been three years into this. You may have just run
36:42
into the wrong people and people know what they know. So they were an
36:45
expert in your area and you went in there and they were the shiny object.
36:50
But it didn't work. It doesn't mean it's not going to work another
36:52
way, you know. Yes, thank you. That's a good message of
36:57
hope. Yeah, you gotta hope it's exactly right, and you have to
37:00
stick with it over time. I've learned that just because of athletes. You
37:04
just have to keep pushing through. It takes time, and you always have
37:07
to be learning. If you're learning, you're gonna get there. It just
37:10
may take longer than you want it. I don't care if it takes you
37:14
eight years. It's better than never trying and never feeling better. You know,
37:19
have hope that you're gonna feel better if you stick with this and try
37:21
different things and stay patient. Yeah, thank you, because we all are
37:25
we all kind of are hitting our heads on the wall when you're I mean,
37:28
I'm almost seven years in on this and it's like, WHOA, this
37:30
is frustrating, But thank you for that message of hope because we all need
37:34
it. Whether you're in chronic pain or not, we all have experienced what
37:37
it's like to feel pain and the frustration that comes with it in some way,
37:40
shape or form. So how can we find you, babe? You
37:45
can go at www dot Bam Bam, dash Metrics dot com, m E
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t Riics dot com and I have everything there if you go to the shop.
37:57
My favorite package for you guys to get to do your stuff and see
38:00
the videos is right there. It's it's the map, the blocks and the
38:04
bands and all the videos are there. But if you guys want to reach
38:07
out to me and really do a session, I'd love to do something to
38:10
help you guys out and really talk through what's going on and just check it
38:14
out, and I promise you you'll be very pleased with what you're doing.
38:19
I mean, I've begetting results for crazy results for time and it's like,
38:22
literally, why I'm doing all these podcasts now is trying to get the word
38:25
out because it's helping so many people that don't know this stuff and how simple
38:30
it is to do at home on your own right there, so you can
38:34
see me on Instagram at BAM Metrics bamm E t r c S and then
38:39
LinkedIn same thing, damn Metric. So I love it, Thank you so
38:43
very much, and all this will be in show notes as well. I
38:45
am moving forward with this because well, as we've all heard so far,
38:49
I need you, jeez, Louise, but I need it. I need
38:52
it to work at home, and that is that is something that the chronic
38:55
pain community totally understands because we just can't get out and do the things that
38:59
we used to. And I feel really confident in that this is going to
39:01
at least helpe me and hopefully as well that are listening. So thank you
39:06
so much for your time today, Bobby, I really appreciate it. Yeah,
39:07
and for any of you guys that are listening today, BAM free Ship,
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So I hope that helps. That's great. Thank you. Yeah, I
39:22
appreciate that, and I'll put that into notes as well. I really really
39:23
appreciate that, because God knows my spreadsheet of medical expenses is pretty deep.
39:30
No, I get it, but I and I tell people all the time.
39:31
I used to send free stuff all the time, free stuff, free
39:34
stuff, but I make people pay for it now because if you pay for
39:37
it, they'll use it, they'll actually try it out. But if I
39:40
send it to them free, all a sudden, I haven't touched that in
39:43
two weeks. No, I haven't tried it. And it was like,
39:45
are you kiddings? Are you kidding me? I used to my closet.
39:49
I'm like, what the hell? Yeah? So anyway, well, thank
39:53
you again, and I look forward to working with you and getting some results
39:58
over here because I know I need you. So thanks again. It's been
40:00
a pleasure. Thanks for having me on. See you later. You are
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