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- 0:00Speaker 1: She's on the Money. She's on the Money.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to a brand new season of She's
- 0:21Speaker 2: on the Money, the podcast for millennials who want financial freedom.
- 0:25Speaker 2: This week's episode is brought to you by Shopback. Be
- 0:27Speaker 2: smart with your ownline shopping and get up to thirty
- 0:29Speaker 2: percent of your purchase back as real money. My name
- 0:32Speaker 2: is Georgia King. I'm a writer and TV production assistant,
- 0:35Speaker 2: and I'm someone who just really wants to lift my
- 0:37Speaker 2: game when it comes to all things money. To do that,
- 0:39Speaker 2: we put our friend and money expert, Victoria Devine back
- 0:42Speaker 2: in the hot seat to help us clean up the
- 0:44Speaker 2: money side of our lives. Think of Victoria as your wiser,
- 0:48Speaker 2: older sister. She might drop some truths when we aren't
- 0:51Speaker 2: quite ready to hear them, but she's always got our
- 0:53Speaker 2: best interests at heart, and we're all going to be
- 0:56Speaker 2: in better money positions because of it. She's on the
- 0:58Speaker 2: Money is a no judgment zone. We're not here to
- 1:00Speaker 2: make you feel bad or like you're behind. We're here
- 1:03Speaker 2: to make you feel included, like money is something you
- 1:05Speaker 2: should be talking about, from saving to spending to why
- 1:08Speaker 2: the hell investing is absolutely essential for everyone. We're here
- 1:12Speaker 2: for you. We've got your back. We're going to support you,
- 1:15Speaker 2: uplift you, and educate you because you're not in this alone.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Every week we'll be sharing tips and tricks so you
- 1:20Speaker 2: can be better at money. We've got an incredible Facebook
- 1:22Speaker 2: community where you can share your money wins and confessions,
- 1:25Speaker 2: plus an Instagram page that'll help keep you motivated or
- 1:28Speaker 2: at the very least make you giggle over a few
- 1:29Speaker 2: cheeky money memes. And we've got a newsletter that'll keep
- 1:32Speaker 2: you across all you need to know. But for now,
- 1:34Speaker 2: let's jump into the much awaited second season of the
- 1:37Speaker 2: show Get a Victoria. Hello, Welcome to season two, mate.
- 1:41Speaker 3: So excited to be here.
- 1:43Speaker 2: As always, it's time to chat money wins, money confessions.
- 1:47Speaker 2: How'd you go this week?
- 1:48Speaker 4: Victoria?
- 1:49Speaker 3: So, I actually have a money confession for you girls. Sorry,
- 1:52Speaker 3: not that naughty though. I think it's something that a
- 1:55Speaker 3: lot of people might have been doing. Over the last
- 1:56Speaker 3: couple of weeks. We've had a lot of time off,
- 2:00Speaker 3: which means I've had a lot of time to socialize,
- 2:03Speaker 3: and I've been going out a fair bit more than
- 2:05Speaker 3: I used to, so more brunches and lunches and casual
- 2:08Speaker 3: coffees with friends before we all go back to work,
- 2:11Speaker 3: which I have enjoyed to the n's degree. Yes, but
- 2:14Speaker 3: it definitely wasn't in the budget. And I know I've
- 2:17Speaker 3: probably spent a bit more than I probably should have.
- 2:20Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we all kind of do that in summer,
- 2:22Speaker 2: don't we, especially in Melbourne.
- 2:24Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe I could have been a little bit
- 2:25Speaker 3: more conservative with it, but I definitely enjoyed it, so
- 2:28Speaker 3: maybe it's a money win. At the same time, it's
- 2:30Speaker 3: a little bit of a budget splurg.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Absolutely, what have you got for me? Well, mine is
- 2:36Speaker 2: a money win. I mean it was still kind of expensive.
- 2:39Speaker 2: But recently I went to a music festival, Oh fancy,
- 2:43Speaker 2: thank you. In the lead up, I wasn't sure I
- 2:44Speaker 2: was on the fence if I was going to go
- 2:46Speaker 2: or not, because these tickets to music festivals, as I'm
- 2:48Speaker 2: sure every way, price this one was like four hundred dollars,
- 2:51Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And you know, it's an amazing weekend,
- 2:54Speaker 2: but it's a lot of money to fork out. Plus
- 2:56Speaker 2: you're spending money on outfits, booze, food, all that jazz. Anyway,
- 3:00Speaker 2: negotiating with a girl on a ticket price the day
- 3:02Speaker 2: before the festival and my brother messages me, I've got
- 3:05Speaker 2: a free ticket for you, George. Are you interested?
- 3:08Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm interested.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Took that on board, saved four hundred dollars. It's some
- 3:11Speaker 2: money win, Victoria.
- 3:12Speaker 3: That's paid. Are your money win? That covers both of us?
- 3:15Speaker 4: Thank you? Yeah?
- 3:16Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm going to claim some of that. It
- 3:18Speaker 3: wasn't at the festival.
- 3:19Speaker 1: It was a great time.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Yep.
- 3:20Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't look like I fit in at the festival,
- 3:24Speaker 3: but I'm going to claim that money in to make
- 3:26Speaker 3: me feel a little bit better about my money commssion.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Thanks girl. So Victoria, it has been a great week
- 3:31Speaker 2: for so many of the Shes on the Money and
- 3:33Speaker 2: community members. I've seen money win after win in our
- 3:36Speaker 2: Facebook group and I am continuously impressed, proud, motivated all
- 3:39Speaker 2: of the things. So as always, let's share our favorites
- 3:41Speaker 2: from the week. What stood out to you?
- 3:43Speaker 3: Do I get to go first?
- 3:44Speaker 2: You can go first winning?
- 3:45Speaker 5: All right?
- 3:46Speaker 3: So I have one from Jessica, and she sent through
- 3:50Speaker 3: a post recently that said, growing up, I didn't have
- 3:52Speaker 3: the opportunity to have these conversations with my parents. I'm
- 3:56Speaker 3: assuming she's referencing money conversations here. It wasn't something that
- 4:00Speaker 3: was really spoken about, and then Jessica went on to
- 4:02Speaker 3: say that more recently she started thinking about her money
- 4:05Speaker 3: story and has been feeling really empowered in regards to
- 4:08Speaker 3: her money choices and said she feels so much more
- 4:11Speaker 3: in control. She said that it's a beautiful thing and
- 4:13Speaker 3: that she now feels interested in watching her money work
- 4:16Speaker 3: for her rather than her feeling like a slave to it. Congrats,
- 4:20Speaker 3: that's amazing. Absolutely, that's what I want for everybody in
- 4:23Speaker 3: our community. I feel like there's been so many other
- 4:26Speaker 3: money wins this week, though, what have you got for us?
- 4:28Speaker 2: So my money win is from Thomas Cina, who wrote.
- 4:32Speaker 2: My partner and I needed to buy an appliance, so
- 4:34Speaker 2: we had to look around the shops. We found the
- 4:36Speaker 2: one we loved, looked it up online, found it on
- 4:38Speaker 2: Catch of the day for thirty dollars cheaper, then used
- 4:41Speaker 2: shop back for five percent cash back, and signed up
- 4:44Speaker 2: for free shipping. So they've saved heaps there. That's so savvy.
- 4:48Speaker 3: I wish I spent more time researching my purchases. I
- 4:51Speaker 3: could have got thirty dollars off plus five percent cash backs.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Free shipping.
- 4:56Speaker 3: Money win.
- 4:57Speaker 2: So now that's out of the way, Victoria, let's jump
- 5:00Speaker 2: into today's show. Today's show is really, I guess about
- 5:03Speaker 2: using the new year as a new opportunity to redefine
- 5:06Speaker 2: our relationship with money. We already know that one of
- 5:09Speaker 2: the most important things we can do to improve our
- 5:11Speaker 2: financial situation is to identify our existing relationship with money
- 5:15Speaker 2: and how it makes us think, feel, and behave. But
- 5:17Speaker 2: what next? What comes after identifying what our money story is? Victoria,
- 5:22Speaker 2: can you please give us a quick little refresh about
- 5:25Speaker 2: what a money story is and why it's so very important.
- 5:27Speaker 3: So I won't harp on about this too much because
- 5:30Speaker 3: we actually did a whole podcast on what money stories were.
- 5:34Speaker 3: But a money story is all of the conscious and
- 5:37Speaker 3: unconscious beliefs and values that you have about money, So
- 5:40Speaker 3: how it makes you feel and think and behave It
- 5:43Speaker 3: can tell you a lot about yourself, and it can
- 5:45Speaker 3: guide what you believe is actually possible. So more often
- 5:49Speaker 3: than not, our money stories are negative and they often
- 5:52Speaker 3: get used as an excuse for not taking our financial
- 5:55Speaker 3: health seriously, which often means that we're consistently stressed when
- 5:59Speaker 3: thinking about money and we don't actually end up taking
- 6:02Speaker 3: control of our situations. So we actually all know what
- 6:05Speaker 3: we should be doing. Don't spend money on the things
- 6:07Speaker 3: that you don't need, and don't charge up your credit card.
- 6:11Speaker 3: We're all told eat meat and vegetables for dinner, not
- 6:13Speaker 3: chocolate cake. But that doesn't always mean we do the
- 6:17Speaker 3: right thing, though, does it, George.
- 6:18Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. Chocolate cake for dinner's always always.
- 6:21Speaker 3: Ten out of ten. I've actually really got it cereal
- 6:23Speaker 3: for dinner as well. So sometimes we do manage to
- 6:26Speaker 3: stay on track and we don't overspend on our credit
- 6:29Speaker 3: cards or eat cake for dinner, But then something happens
- 6:32Speaker 3: and we might not even realize that there's a correlation
- 6:35Speaker 3: between how we spend our money and how we feel.
- 6:38Speaker 3: So for me, it's incredibly important to get on top
- 6:40Speaker 3: of our money stories, to not only understand them, but
- 6:43Speaker 3: to be able to rewrite them. If we're in a
- 6:45Speaker 3: situation where we want things to change, and what about
- 6:48Speaker 3: a time to do that? Then the start of a.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Year, Victoria, have you seen a trend of people wanting
- 6:52Speaker 2: to change their money stories?
- 6:54Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely so. I think we have a really special
- 6:56Speaker 3: space in Cheese on the Money where people can actually
- 6:59Speaker 3: talk about these things, and it's often not until someone
- 7:02Speaker 3: asks you what your money story is, that you think
- 7:05Speaker 3: that it's a thing, that you think it's something that
- 7:07Speaker 3: needs changing or even needs consideration. So over the last
- 7:11Speaker 3: twelve months in the She's on the Money community, and
- 7:13Speaker 3: I think more widely, I'm starting to see lots of
- 7:15Speaker 3: articles about money stories and your family financial history popping up,
- 7:20Speaker 3: and I think it's really important to start having these
- 7:22Speaker 3: conversations that we always should have been having. So we're
- 7:25Speaker 3: in this position where people are now just becoming more
- 7:27Speaker 3: aware and more educated on the fact that a money
- 7:30Speaker 3: story exists, and they're going, Wow, that actually does impact me,
- 7:33Speaker 3: or Wow, my dad never wanted to have credit cards,
- 7:36Speaker 3: therefore I don't want to have credit cards, Or hey,
- 7:39Speaker 3: my spending looks like spending lots on a credit card,
- 7:42Speaker 3: Therefore where does that come from? So you're getting people
- 7:45Speaker 3: to be a little bit more reflective, but it's not
- 7:47Speaker 3: until they're prompted that that needs reflection on that we're
- 7:50Speaker 3: now starting to have these conversations. So I think it's
- 7:52Speaker 3: a really good time to be talking about changing that.
- 7:55Speaker 3: But I also want to acknowledge that we've had so
- 7:57Speaker 3: many people recently changing money stories for the better. There
- 8:01Speaker 3: are so many great news stories at the moment of
- 8:04Speaker 3: people changing their money story for the better getting out
- 8:07Speaker 3: of massive amounts of debt. And I'm so excited to
- 8:09Speaker 3: bring some of these stories to the Money Diaries section
- 8:12Speaker 3: of our podcast over the next few weeks, so keep
- 8:15Speaker 3: an eye out. But I think it's really great that
- 8:18Speaker 3: there are so many people taking charge of their finances
- 8:20Speaker 3: by transforming their mindset, eliminating their poor habits, and identifying
- 8:25Speaker 3: their long term goals and actually working out ways to
- 8:27Speaker 3: achieve them. So changing money stories is not just about
- 8:31Speaker 3: going all right, well this is what I want my
- 8:33Speaker 3: life to look like. It's actually about saying, well, this
- 8:36Speaker 3: is actually achievable for me, and these are things that
- 8:39Speaker 3: I can actually do to be stepping in the right
- 8:41Speaker 3: direction instead of staying still. Because I think often a
- 8:44Speaker 3: lot of people get a little bit of analysis paralysis,
- 8:47Speaker 3: whether are too many options or too many things to consider.
- 8:50Speaker 3: It gets overwhelming, so we don't actually move forward.
- 8:52Speaker 2: So can I ask you, Victoria, about how we go
- 8:55Speaker 2: about rewriting our money stories, Like do we sit down
- 8:58Speaker 2: pen and paper and to find our story and what
- 9:01Speaker 2: we don't like about it or what we did wrong
- 9:03Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen that we'd like to change for the
- 9:05Speaker 2: next year, or do we need to see a financial advisor? Like,
- 9:08Speaker 2: how do we actually reshape and redefine our money stories?
- 9:12Speaker 3: So money stories actually start with you, so you don't
- 9:14Speaker 3: need professional help to go and work out what your
- 9:17Speaker 3: money story is. It's the thing that shapes our financial reality,
- 9:21Speaker 3: but it's also the one thing we have complete control
- 9:23Speaker 3: over because of this awareness is the key, So you
- 9:27Speaker 3: understanding it and being open to change is the most
- 9:30Speaker 3: important part here. So it's not about saying they're right
- 9:33Speaker 3: and wrong. I don't believe that there is anything that
- 9:35Speaker 3: we've ever done badly. We're all on a different journey.
- 9:38Speaker 3: We're all on a different path. We might have had
- 9:40Speaker 3: some missteps and misfortunate things happen to us, but we
- 9:44Speaker 3: all have the same power to change our financial situation
- 9:47Speaker 3: as the next person. I think it's also really important
- 9:50Speaker 3: to realize that our money story can't be compared to
- 9:53Speaker 3: our friends or other people's even your siblings who might
- 9:56Speaker 3: have been brought up in exactly the same way. Do
- 9:58Speaker 3: you have a completely different experience. It's of the same
- 10:00Speaker 3: situations that you had. So being in a position where
- 10:04Speaker 3: you are thinking about your money story but not comparing
- 10:07Speaker 3: it to the money stories of others is really important
- 10:09Speaker 3: when we sit down here, because more often than not,
- 10:12Speaker 3: the person that will be the harshest on you is
- 10:14Speaker 3: actually you. So I think we also need to look
- 10:16Speaker 3: at our money stories and be a little bit kinder
- 10:18Speaker 3: to ourselves and say, I'm actually on the right path.
- 10:21Speaker 3: I'm actually moving forward, and these are the steps I'm making.
- 10:25Speaker 3: They might not be the same steps as other people,
- 10:27Speaker 3: but they are the steps that are in the right direction.
- 10:29Speaker 2: So how do we understand where our story actually comes from?
- 10:32Speaker 3: So, given most of our spending and saving habits have
- 10:35Speaker 3: come from our parents or the family that surrounded us,
- 10:38Speaker 3: I think it's important to sit down and have a
- 10:41Speaker 3: think about how they managed money. What's your earliest memory
- 10:44Speaker 3: of money? How was it talked about in your family?
- 10:47Speaker 3: Were you in a family where your parents didn't talk
- 10:50Speaker 3: about money in front of the children, or were you're
- 10:52Speaker 3: in a family where your parents gave you pocket money
- 10:54Speaker 3: and taught you how to spend. So just understanding what
- 10:57Speaker 3: that actually look like and drawing in on your own
- 11:01Speaker 3: life and your own experiences to work out how your
- 11:04Speaker 3: money story has been shaped is really important. So this
- 11:07Speaker 3: is again just about awareness. So how do we unhook
- 11:10Speaker 3: ourselves from the money habits that don't serve us and
- 11:13Speaker 3: pick up money habits that will.
- 11:15Speaker 2: So Victoria, our story doesn't have to define us moving forward, right.
- 11:18Speaker 3: No, it absolutely doesn't. And I think another important point
- 11:22Speaker 3: to make here is we need to also ensure that
- 11:25Speaker 3: we're disassociating our self worth from our net worth. If
- 11:29Speaker 3: you're someone who is equating your self worth with financial security,
- 11:33Speaker 3: that's actually quite unhealthy. So whilst we are all in
- 11:36Speaker 3: this together and we are all striving towards financial freedom,
- 11:40Speaker 3: you can often feel really overwhelmed. And when you're buried
- 11:44Speaker 3: up to your neck in debt and you don't feel
- 11:46Speaker 3: like you can get ahead, you feel hopeless and a
- 11:48Speaker 3: little bit stuck. The thing that will keep you from
- 11:51Speaker 3: taking action is your situation. That's the thing you're going
- 11:54Speaker 3: to blame for not being able to move forward. And
- 11:57Speaker 3: I think we need to look at it and say,
- 11:58Speaker 3: debt does not mean you're a bad person. Being a
- 12:00Speaker 3: little bit behind does not mean you're a bad person,
- 12:03Speaker 3: and not having the same money story as the person
- 12:05Speaker 3: sitting next to you doesn't actually define you. Is really important,
- 12:10Speaker 3: and once you're able to free yourself from the negative
- 12:12Speaker 3: emotions that are associated with having debt or you know,
- 12:15Speaker 3: poor money habits. You can actually open yourself up to change.
- 12:19Speaker 3: But that's a choice. Change is a choice.
- 12:21Speaker 2: So would you say, Victoria, that if change is a choice,
- 12:24Speaker 2: that I can just I can just choose to change
- 12:27Speaker 2: my money story. Like, is it that easy? Just faking
- 12:30Speaker 2: it till you make it? Like? How does it actually work?
- 12:33Speaker 3: So it's obviously not as easy as that I wish
- 12:36Speaker 3: it was. But because people act on the things that
- 12:39Speaker 3: they really believe in, it's important to identify those things
- 12:42Speaker 3: that we believe in. It's important to start doing the
- 12:45Speaker 3: things that actually align with your ideal money story. If
- 12:48Speaker 3: the thing that is making you feel bad about, you know,
- 12:51Speaker 3: your money story and your future wealth is spending too
- 12:54Speaker 3: much on the weekends, that could be a small step
- 12:56Speaker 3: towards a bigger picture. I'm not expecting anybody to go,
- 13:00Speaker 3: all right, well, I need to change my money story immediately,
- 13:04Speaker 3: and they pick up a new budget and absolutely rewrite
- 13:06Speaker 3: every aspect of their life.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:08Speaker 3: I think that there are so many good things about people.
- 13:11Speaker 3: The thing with money stories that you don't like is
- 13:14Speaker 3: that we are spending more than we're earning, and we
- 13:17Speaker 3: just need to change that. So there's nothing negative or
- 13:20Speaker 3: positive about that. It's a simple fact that you are
- 13:23Speaker 3: spending more than you are earning, and we just need
- 13:25Speaker 3: to change that so that you are more financially secure
- 13:28Speaker 3: for the long term. You are not a bad person
- 13:31Speaker 3: or a worse off person for those choices. It just
- 13:34Speaker 3: means you hadn't changed things yet and now you are.
- 13:37Speaker 3: So being able to align to the things that are
- 13:41Speaker 3: most important to you will actually prove that your old
- 13:44Speaker 3: story wasn't your truth, and it shows you that you're
- 13:47Speaker 3: in control of your future. And if we start small,
- 13:50Speaker 3: it's kind of like positive recognition along the way. We
- 13:53Speaker 3: can start small and see that we can achieve these
- 13:55Speaker 3: small things, we're more likely to bite off a little
- 13:57Speaker 3: bit more each time. I think it's important to not
- 13:59Speaker 3: be off everything all at once and think that we
- 14:02Speaker 3: can do it and actually change. It's important to recognize
- 14:05Speaker 3: that your current money situation only exists because of the
- 14:08Speaker 3: choices you've made, and it means you can actually make
- 14:11Speaker 3: new ones and create a new money story based on
- 14:13Speaker 3: the choices you want to make moving forward. So as
- 14:16Speaker 3: much as that sounds quite simple, it can be really
- 14:19Speaker 3: complex for a lot of people. And I also need
- 14:21Speaker 3: to recognize there are a lot of people who are
- 14:23Speaker 3: in sticky situations that they can't change immediately. But this
- 14:27Speaker 3: is also a lot about mindset and making the best
- 14:29Speaker 3: of a situation and saying, all right, well what have
- 14:32Speaker 3: I got and how do I deal with it? How
- 14:33Speaker 3: can I make this work best for me? Or how
- 14:36Speaker 3: can I change this a little bit so I feel
- 14:38Speaker 3: more empowered instead of overwhelmed.
- 14:40Speaker 2: Now that it's a new year, it is the perfect
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- 15:33Speaker 2: Too, Happy savings cuts. Hi, there, you've reached the shes
- 15:46Speaker 2: on the Money mailbox. Do you have a money problem
- 15:48Speaker 2: you want help solving. Do you have a money dilemma
- 15:51Speaker 2: you just want to chat about. Victoria is here to help.
- 15:54Speaker 2: Every week, we'll be playing your questions to help make
- 15:56Speaker 2: sense of a money mess you may have found yourself in.
- 15:59Speaker 2: Make a quick recording on your phone and send it
- 16:01Speaker 2: through to podcasts at cheesodthmoney dot com dou and you
- 16:04Speaker 2: might find yourself on the show. But for now, here's
- 16:06Speaker 2: today's question.
- 16:08Speaker 4: Hey guys, I've got about five thousand dollars left on
- 16:11Speaker 4: a personal loan. I'm not being working really hard to
- 16:14Speaker 4: get it down. I just seem to be getting nowhere.
- 16:17Speaker 4: In reality, I know that I have paid a large
- 16:19Speaker 4: chunk off the loan because it did start out at
- 16:21Speaker 4: twenty thousand dollars, but recently I haven't really paid anything
- 16:25Speaker 4: off it. I've never really been good with my money,
- 16:28Speaker 4: and when I have it in my account, I just
- 16:30Speaker 4: feel like it's burning a hole in my pocket and
- 16:32Speaker 4: I just want to spend it. I've set my goal
- 16:34Speaker 4: to twenty twenty, worked out my budget, but it just
- 16:36Speaker 4: doesn't seem to help, because when I'm in the moment,
- 16:39Speaker 4: they all just go out of the window. Each month,
- 16:41Speaker 4: I have big plans to save my money, but I'm
- 16:43Speaker 4: just not getting anywhere. As soon as I make one
- 16:46Speaker 4: bad spending decision for my pay cycle, it seems that
- 16:49Speaker 4: the whole fortnight is a write off, and I just
- 16:51Speaker 4: keep spending everything that I have. I just honestly don't
- 16:55Speaker 4: know how to fix this. I do want my money
- 16:57Speaker 4: story to change. I just don't know how to make
- 16:59Speaker 4: this happen. I want twenty twenty three an amazing year
- 17:02Speaker 4: for me financially, but right now just feel so unachievable.
- 17:06Speaker 4: I know this really isn't a specific question, but is
- 17:08Speaker 4: there something that you can help me out with?
- 17:10Speaker 2: Thanks God, Ah, that's a hard one, Victoria. Yeah, she's
- 17:15Speaker 2: in a really tough spot. How does she get out
- 17:18Speaker 2: of it? And how does she redefine her money story.
- 17:19Speaker 3: I think you need to be really willing to forgive yourself.
- 17:22Speaker 3: You're never going to be perfect off the bat. Rewriting
- 17:24Speaker 3: your story doesn't actually happen overnight as much as we
- 17:27Speaker 3: would all like it to, and we do encounter some hiccups.
- 17:30Speaker 3: It's like going on a diet right and blowing out
- 17:32Speaker 3: one weekend and then going, oh, well, I'm never going
- 17:35Speaker 3: to lose weight. I think that being in a situation
- 17:38Speaker 3: where you're changing your money story, it's about the journey.
- 17:40Speaker 3: It's not just about the destination or being right or wrong.
- 17:43Speaker 3: Sometimes we blow out, sometimes we go out for dinner
- 17:45Speaker 3: with friends and order that extra glass of wine. But
- 17:48Speaker 3: the next day we should just be able to pick
- 17:50Speaker 3: ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and move on to the
- 17:53Speaker 3: next best thing, even if that means sometimes we take
- 17:56Speaker 3: two steps back to move one step forward. So for me,
- 18:00Speaker 3: forgiveness is the key around long term success and having
- 18:03Speaker 3: a positive money story doesn't mean that we're going to
- 18:06Speaker 3: be completely free from problems or pain. It's just more
- 18:09Speaker 3: about developing a strong mindset so we can understand that
- 18:13Speaker 3: we are actually capable of these changes. And I think
- 18:16Speaker 3: that if she could reach out to even a couple
- 18:17Speaker 3: of friends and start discussing that money story and saying, well, hey,
- 18:21Speaker 3: i'm struggling here. Maybe she'll have some friends that can
- 18:23Speaker 3: help keep her on track. So when she messes up
- 18:26Speaker 3: in her eyes, her friends are there to be like.
- 18:28Speaker 3: That is not as bad as you think it is.
- 18:31Speaker 2: I see it all the time as well, Like people
- 18:33Speaker 2: hold themselves to these really high standards. It's unrealistic, unsustainable,
- 18:37Speaker 2: and then they get angry with themselves and they're.
- 18:39Speaker 3: Back to square one.
- 18:41Speaker 2: Not to square one is what I was looking for.
- 18:42Speaker 3: It's a bit like that. So I think it's important
- 18:45Speaker 3: that when we start trying to change our money story,
- 18:48Speaker 3: we start with really small steps. So trying to make
- 18:50Speaker 3: over all of our bad financial habits or habits that
- 18:53Speaker 3: we just don't like can also backfire on us because
- 18:57Speaker 3: when you fail, you often retreat to the ways that
- 18:59Speaker 3: you are at before. It's so much easier because the
- 19:02Speaker 3: ways that you had before that you have now they're comfortable.
- 19:05Speaker 3: Being comfortable is of utmost importance to us as humans.
- 19:09Speaker 3: So often changing a money story can be a little
- 19:12Speaker 3: bit uncomfortable. So it's about becoming comfortable with the uncomfortable,
- 19:16Speaker 3: and it's a lot easier to commit to small scale
- 19:18Speaker 3: change than a complete life overhaul. So I think baby
- 19:22Speaker 3: steps are the way forward instead of committing to an
- 19:26Speaker 3: entire financial overhaul. And I think that's what we need
- 19:28Speaker 3: to be really focusing on, especially coming into a new year.
- 19:31Speaker 3: We all have these new year new mea kind of vibe,
- 19:34Speaker 3: and we all commit to these changes because a new
- 19:36Speaker 3: year has come upon us, and what happens in February,
- 19:40Speaker 3: we fall off the bandwagon again because we've often over
- 19:43Speaker 3: committed ourselves. So I think it's about the small steps.
- 19:46Speaker 3: So for example, if you typically go out for dinner
- 19:50Speaker 3: three times a week, I wish I did. I think
- 19:53Speaker 3: it's more about cutting back and saying, well, what can
- 19:55Speaker 3: I do to make it too or what can I
- 19:57Speaker 3: do to make it one instead of saying to yourself
- 19:59Speaker 3: or I'm in a situation where I'm used to dining out,
- 20:02Speaker 3: I'm going to completely cut that.
- 20:04Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not sustainable.
- 20:05Speaker 3: It's not sustainable, So what can we do that over
- 20:08Speaker 3: time makes our habits start to become better habits instead
- 20:12Speaker 3: of cutting things out completely. More about sustainability. I also
- 20:16Speaker 3: think it's important to talk about accountability. And we can
- 20:19Speaker 3: talk about this later, but writing down your goals means
- 20:22Speaker 3: you're actually more likely to achieve them and share them
- 20:25Speaker 3: with people. If you've got friends that don't want to
- 20:28Speaker 3: listen right now, you can share it in the Shoes
- 20:30Speaker 3: on the Money community because we are here for it. Yes,
- 20:33Speaker 3: totally here for this. But these actions are actually going
- 20:36Speaker 3: to make you more likely to stick to your goals.
- 20:37Speaker 3: And that's what we're about.
- 20:44Speaker 2: Okay, now for the fun stuff. What good would a
- 20:46Speaker 2: money podcast be without the pervy stuff. Now it's time
- 20:49Speaker 2: for money Diary. Let's get into it.
- 20:53Speaker 5: Hello, I'm twenty five and Sensible.
- 20:58Speaker 2: Today's money Diary is from twenty five Vibe and Sensible,
- 21:00Speaker 2: who's a little bit of a savings wizit.
- 21:02Speaker 5: So, my mum has never had a credit card, and
- 21:06Speaker 5: when you hear about other influential people or other parents
- 21:10Speaker 5: in your life, they say, oh yeah, put it on
- 21:11Speaker 5: the credit card. Put it on credit card. So, as
- 21:12Speaker 5: a child, in growing up and understanding what a credit
- 21:16Speaker 5: card was, mum explained to me it's money that you
- 21:19Speaker 5: don't own, it's money that you borrow and then you
- 21:21Speaker 5: have to pay back and so sort of that influence.
- 21:25Speaker 5: I guess effectively influenced me to not want to have
- 21:28Speaker 5: that kind of money. Having studied economics, I've always been
- 21:32Speaker 5: fascinated about where money travels around the world and around
- 21:35Speaker 5: the economy. And as a young child, I used to think,
- 21:39Speaker 5: if I hold onto this ten dollars and don't spend
- 21:41Speaker 5: it on lollies, where could this money go? But if
- 21:44Speaker 5: I give ten dollars to the shop, what's that shop
- 21:47Speaker 5: going to do now with my money? And they're going
- 21:49Speaker 5: to use it and find it more useful than me
- 21:51Speaker 5: holding onto it. So I've always been fascinated in that
- 21:53Speaker 5: kind of sense of where money floats around the world,
- 21:56Speaker 5: and that sort of I guess inspired me to hold
- 21:58Speaker 5: onto my money more as well. I do not like
- 22:02Speaker 5: relying on anybody else for my money, whether that be
- 22:05Speaker 5: my boyfriend, my parents, any other family member. When I'm
- 22:08Speaker 5: out with friends, I am very measured in how the
- 22:14Speaker 5: group situation works when it comes to money, and I'm
- 22:18Speaker 5: pretty careful with that kind of spending. I don't often
- 22:20Speaker 5: like to pull money together and just lash out and
- 22:24Speaker 5: spend because it's often harder to take control. I feel
- 22:28Speaker 5: like I learned about money as a young age that
- 22:31Speaker 5: in the freedom it can bring you so that I've
- 22:33Speaker 5: never wanted to rely on my parents in that way.
- 22:35Speaker 5: I got a job when I was fourteen years old
- 22:37Speaker 5: and always have wanted to pay for everything myself. I'm
- 22:40Speaker 5: currently working as a graduate in the insurance industry. I've
- 22:45Speaker 5: been doing this for the last two years, so this
- 22:47Speaker 5: has been my first sort of full time job since
- 22:50Speaker 5: finishing university.
- 22:52Speaker 2: Okay, so now we know what she does. Let's get
- 22:54Speaker 2: into the juicy stuff. How much does she earn and
- 22:56Speaker 2: how much is sitting in her bank account right now?
- 22:59Speaker 5: So I currently I earn sixty five thousand dollars a year,
- 23:03Speaker 5: which also includes superannuation, and currently I have saved around
- 23:08Speaker 5: forty four thousand dollars. Currently my super is invested with
- 23:14Speaker 5: my employer's superannuation fund. However, I have been a bit
- 23:18Speaker 5: slack lately and still need to combine all my superannuations
- 23:21Speaker 5: together because I know that having them in separate accounts
- 23:24Speaker 5: is not beneficial for myself. So that is something I
- 23:27Speaker 5: actually plan to look into over the next few weeks
- 23:30Speaker 5: to sort of knuckle down into.
- 23:32Speaker 2: That time and what exactly happens to that money after
- 23:35Speaker 2: it's deposited into her account.
- 23:37Speaker 5: I keep good control of my money as it comes
- 23:40Speaker 5: into my bank account. I have three different accounts set up.
- 23:45Speaker 5: I have a big savings account which I keep the
- 23:47Speaker 5: bulk of my savings in. I get paid into a
- 23:49Speaker 5: middle savings account where all of my pay goes into.
- 23:52Speaker 5: And I also have a spending account. So each time
- 23:55Speaker 5: I get paid, the money comes into that middle account.
- 23:58Speaker 5: I then separate what I would like to choose to
- 24:00Speaker 5: put away into my big savings account and what I
- 24:03Speaker 5: would like to choose to put into my spending account. However,
- 24:06Speaker 5: this spending account I don't often touch until I actually
- 24:11Speaker 5: need the spending money. So I prefer to have sort
- 24:14Speaker 5: of that middle account as that safe, secure sort of
- 24:17Speaker 5: some money there for the next month or two weeks,
- 24:21Speaker 5: and when I'm out or when I have something that
- 24:24Speaker 5: I know I need to put money aside for, I
- 24:27Speaker 5: will transfer across that account. So if I'm going to
- 24:29Speaker 5: buy a birthday present for a friend, I know that
- 24:31Speaker 5: I'll need to spend X amount, that I'll transfer across
- 24:33Speaker 5: that account. And for me, that's a way of controlling
- 24:36Speaker 5: my spending in a day to day scenario. So if
- 24:41Speaker 5: I already have the money there in that spending account,
- 24:43Speaker 5: then I'll lose control of it and I won't be
- 24:45Speaker 5: able to hold on to it as best I could.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Okay, then, so how does twenty five and Sensible feel
- 24:51Speaker 2: about investing? Does she invest? And if so? How?
- 24:54Speaker 5: This is actually an area I had been thinking about
- 24:56Speaker 5: quite a lot in the lead up to this recording.
- 25:00Speaker 5: I don't currently invest a whole lot, obviously. I have
- 25:04Speaker 5: my bank account that's growing its own interest in savings.
- 25:07Speaker 5: I do have an employee share scheme, which I don't
- 25:11Speaker 5: know a huge amount because I've only just taken that
- 25:13Speaker 5: on in the recent weeks. But I'm definitely keen to
- 25:16Speaker 5: learn a lot more about investment in the next couple
- 25:19Speaker 5: of years, especially as my financial situation changes.
- 25:22Speaker 2: What about debts like credit cards or personal loads?
- 25:25Speaker 5: Personally, I'm a big hater of debt, so I try
- 25:27Speaker 5: to avoid it at all costs. The only debt I
- 25:31Speaker 5: do have at the moment is my hex debt, which
- 25:33Speaker 5: I wanted to get an education, so this was worth
- 25:35Speaker 5: it in my mind when taking university education into account,
- 25:41Speaker 5: I guess from a young age, I've always understood that
- 25:45Speaker 5: it's not good to have a credit card, it's not
- 25:47Speaker 5: good to have money that's not yours, and just go
- 25:49Speaker 5: ahead and use it, so I've always understood how that
- 25:53Speaker 5: sort of works. I did have a credit card at
- 25:55Speaker 5: one stage when I went on a Europe trip, which
- 25:59Speaker 5: I never used. In that case, the bank actually suggested
- 26:03Speaker 5: I took it for a smaller limit of one thousand dollars.
- 26:07Speaker 5: I then use that card a couple of times by
- 26:09Speaker 5: accident at the supermarket and quickly paid the debts back
- 26:11Speaker 5: straight away, and then I canceled the card because I
- 26:13Speaker 5: didn't like the fees coming out when I wasn't using
- 26:16Speaker 5: that credit card, and have since never felt the need
- 26:19Speaker 5: to use a credit card, so I tried to avoid debt. Obviously,
- 26:24Speaker 5: I will probably have one in the future for a
- 26:27Speaker 5: house or another living arrangement, but yeah, not a big
- 26:30Speaker 5: fan of accumulating debt.
- 26:31Speaker 2: Does our sweet Savings Wizard have any good money habits
- 26:34Speaker 2: that she's especially proud of?
- 26:35Speaker 5: Ooh money habits. There's a few different ones that just
- 26:39Speaker 5: kind of fell into place through how I was influenced.
- 26:43Speaker 5: I guess as a child, but also hobbies I guess
- 26:45Speaker 5: as well. I love finding great clothing at op shops.
- 26:50Speaker 5: It sounds strange, but I often find things that are
- 26:53Speaker 5: to my taste and my liking that don't necessarily look
- 26:56Speaker 5: like they've come from the op shop, or they might
- 26:58Speaker 5: be something brand new that I found. This top, in fact,
- 27:01Speaker 5: is from the up shop. So I feel like those
- 27:04Speaker 5: of money wins. I don't necessarily go shopping all the time.
- 27:09Speaker 5: It might be I just because I don't have necessarily
- 27:13Speaker 5: an interest in I don't know, just buying tangible items
- 27:17Speaker 5: that doesn't give me a lot of satisfaction. I prefer
- 27:20Speaker 5: to sort of put my money away for future. Another
- 27:24Speaker 5: thing is I've never really been a big fan of
- 27:26Speaker 5: spending money on exercise because I've always thought, I don't know,
- 27:30Speaker 5: it's just like at school, I always ran a lot,
- 27:34Speaker 5: and I always enjoyed swimming, so I would do that.
- 27:36Speaker 5: I guess at the beach a lot as well. So
- 27:39Speaker 5: I still do a lot of running. I still do
- 27:41Speaker 5: a lot of cycling. I like to take those sports
- 27:44Speaker 5: in a weird way. I cycle to work and sometimes
- 27:48Speaker 5: run to work, so I guess I save on transport
- 27:51Speaker 5: in that sense as well.
- 27:53Speaker 2: And what about her worst money habit, I.
- 27:55Speaker 5: Think, although I touched on how I like to have
- 27:58Speaker 5: my own spending in control of my own spending at
- 28:01Speaker 5: social gatherings and events, I think sometimes when I'm in.
- 28:04Speaker 1: The mood, I do lash out a little.
- 28:06Speaker 5: So if I'm with my boyfriend and we are going
- 28:09Speaker 5: to the movies or we're going out for dinner, I'll
- 28:12Speaker 5: often shout drinks as well, and then I'd like to
- 28:14Speaker 5: go get ice cream on the way home. So I
- 28:16Speaker 5: think it's in those certain scenarios that's probably my bad habit.
- 28:20Speaker 5: Or if it's a wine weakened away the thing, I'll
- 28:25Speaker 5: often think, oh, I don't often do this, and then
- 28:27Speaker 5: I'll spend a little bit more. Luckily that doesn't happen
- 28:30Speaker 5: too often.
- 28:31Speaker 2: So what's today's money diarist actually saving for? What's her
- 28:34Speaker 2: big money goal?
- 28:35Speaker 5: My current saving goal. I haven't clearly defined exactly what
- 28:39Speaker 5: I've wanted to save four However, in general, my goal
- 28:44Speaker 5: has always been to accumulate savings in my account for
- 28:49Speaker 5: my future self. So even though I don't have that
- 28:51Speaker 5: clearly defined, I've always wanted to put some money away
- 28:54Speaker 5: because eventually I'd like to buy a house, or build
- 28:57Speaker 5: a house or do something of that like that is
- 29:00Speaker 5: a big investment that will be meaningful to me, and
- 29:03Speaker 5: at the moment, I haven't made up the decision of
- 29:05Speaker 5: what that is but I've always known that for my
- 29:07Speaker 5: future self, I will really think myself one day that
- 29:10Speaker 5: I've put this aside. So that's sort of been my
- 29:12Speaker 5: motivation to always have those those savings.
- 29:15Speaker 2: And twenty twenty is here, will twenty five and sensible
- 29:18Speaker 2: change any of her habits for the new year.
- 29:20Speaker 5: In twenty twenty, I would really like to change my
- 29:24Speaker 5: habits in a way that incorporates some professional financial advice.
- 29:30Speaker 5: I think being a listener if she's on the money,
- 29:32Speaker 5: I've barely been inspired by what I can do and
- 29:35Speaker 5: what I should be doing more of. I would like to,
- 29:39Speaker 5: as I mentioned, put all my superannuation together, and also
- 29:43Speaker 5: really attack budgeting. I would really like to get into
- 29:46Speaker 5: spreadsheets more. I'd like to budget more for my supermarket
- 29:49Speaker 5: spending even that kind of thing, and also putting away
- 29:53Speaker 5: savings for other bigger things such as holidays and Christmas,
- 29:57Speaker 5: and really working that out earlier before the time comes.
- 30:00Speaker 2: So how would today's money diarist rate her own relationship
- 30:03Speaker 2: with money?
- 30:03Speaker 5: Oh, if I had to rate myself, i'd probably give
- 30:06Speaker 5: myself maybe a B or B plus because I still
- 30:11Speaker 5: haven't quite worked out where my money is going for
- 30:14Speaker 5: the future in terms of investment and how to get
- 30:18Speaker 5: the best out of it. However, I feel like I'm
- 30:20Speaker 5: pretty on track and pretty happy with the way it's
- 30:23Speaker 5: been tracking in the past.
- 30:25Speaker 2: How good was that twenty five and sensible? You put
- 30:29Speaker 2: me to shame?
- 30:30Speaker 3: I love her, I also think and I feel like,
- 30:32Speaker 3: I say this a lot about our money diarists, who
- 30:35Speaker 3: are savvy little savers. I think she is too harsh
- 30:38Speaker 3: on herself. Her rating should say a B. I say
- 30:41Speaker 3: this a lot about our money diarists because I think
- 30:44Speaker 3: that they're all doing so much better than they think
- 30:46Speaker 3: they are. But I also want to be respectful of
- 30:48Speaker 3: where they think they are at. Because if she said
- 30:50Speaker 3: that she's a bee and she feels like she needs
- 30:53Speaker 3: to get her souper together and wants to get financial help,
- 30:55Speaker 3: imagine how great she's going to be in the next year.
- 30:58Speaker 2: Yeah, what does an A plus look like for twenty
- 30:59Speaker 2: five and sensible?
- 31:00Speaker 3: Geez amazing. And as much as I don't love that
- 31:03Speaker 3: she has her superanuation spread out across other places, I
- 31:08Speaker 3: liked that she understood that was something she needed to
- 31:10Speaker 3: change and wanted to get help for that. I think
- 31:13Speaker 3: it's really important when talking about superannuation that we don't
- 31:15Speaker 3: just jump into consolidating our super into one account. There
- 31:19Speaker 3: are so many things we need to take into consideration
- 31:22Speaker 3: when looking at superanuation, like fees and performance of the fund.
- 31:26Speaker 3: But also, and most commonly forgotten, are the insurances that
- 31:29Speaker 3: are attached to the superfund that we lose if we
- 31:32Speaker 3: roll out of a superfund without any consultation with a
- 31:35Speaker 3: financial advisor. So as much as you can absolutely roll
- 31:38Speaker 3: together your super on your own through the MyGov account,
- 31:42Speaker 3: I think it's also worth having a quick chat with
- 31:44Speaker 3: a financial advisor to work out what the best possible
- 31:47Speaker 3: outcome for you is. And she was totally on track
- 31:49Speaker 3: with that.
- 31:50Speaker 2: Absolutely. I loved her quirky little habits like shopping in
- 31:54Speaker 2: op shops and getting fulfilment out of that. You know,
- 31:56Speaker 2: you get one off pieces that no one else is
- 31:58Speaker 2: gonna be wearing, a very sustainable way to shop. Also,
- 32:01Speaker 2: running riding her bike to work is amazing. Not paying
- 32:04Speaker 2: for your marqie, which adds up.
- 32:06Speaker 3: It totally adds up, And I feel like I need
- 32:08Speaker 3: to take a leaf out of her book because I'm
- 32:10Speaker 3: really good at paying for exercise that I do not
- 32:14Speaker 3: do nearly as consistently or regularly as I should be
- 32:17Speaker 3: so paying for exercise. Coming into the next couple of
- 32:20Speaker 3: months where it's going to be really nice outside, maybe
- 32:23Speaker 3: I need to evaluate what I'm up to. I also
- 32:26Speaker 3: love that she said that she wants to see a
- 32:28Speaker 3: financial advisor to get advice on her money, knowing that
- 32:31Speaker 3: she doesn't know what she wants to do with it.
- 32:34Speaker 3: That's such a great way of making her money work
- 32:36Speaker 3: for her instead of her consistently working for it. She
- 32:39Speaker 3: is so young and has so much opportunity ahead of
- 32:42Speaker 3: her to take hold of, and the sooner she gets
- 32:45Speaker 3: into the investment market, whether that is shares or property
- 32:48Speaker 3: or some other form of investment, it actually doesn't matter.
- 32:51Speaker 3: I think it's just important to get educated and start
- 32:54Speaker 3: talking to people. And she seems to be on the
- 32:56Speaker 3: right track.
- 32:56Speaker 2: She's definitely on the right track. Well done, twenty five
- 32:58Speaker 2: and sensible, and that is all we have time for today.
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