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Impact Play Survival Guide: Skincare Tips from Flora · The Kink Consultant

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It's the King Consultant podcast where we're turning up the heat
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on all things kink and dating, relationships and pop culture.
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So close the door, plug in your headphones, and let's get down
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to it. Hello and welcome to this week's
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episode of The King Consultant. I am once again joined by a
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fellow Spanko. You know, I cannot separate
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myself from the Spanko community.
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Flora, welcome. Thank you for joining.
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Hello, thank you for having me. Absolutely.
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And we have been in the same circles in the same room as each
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other previously. But at the Texas Allstate
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spanking party, I attended one of your classes.
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I was obsessed because I've never heard this class offered
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before. And you did Spanko Care 101.
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It was a really fun time. It's turned into a small passion
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project, so I was excited to share it.
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Was this your first time teaching it or have you taught
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this a couple of times? No, it was my first time
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teaching it. I taught it twice so I did it 2
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times at TASP, but that was the first time I'd been gathering
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information with my doctor for like months.
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I. Remember thinking who is her
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doctor? And maybe I missed that at the
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beginning, but like, who is your doctor that you felt close
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enough to ask these questions to?
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I actually outed myself to him because I was going through some
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health issues at the time. I had cancer and I was just kind
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of starting to come into my own as a Spanko at the same time
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that I got the snooze and I was going through treatment.
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And so I really didn't want to stop playing.
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But breaking skin and immune system problems became a concern
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very quickly, especially because my skin was just breaking down
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really fast. And so I just kind of bit the
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bullet and outed myself to him and was like, I need help.
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Like I really want to do this thing, but it seems to be that I
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can't do this thing because you don't even want me to like shave
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my leg. And so he was like, OK, let's
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try and figure this out. And he was very thoughtful, very
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respectful. He's been awesome.
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And he's been able to talk to other dermatology, like actual
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dermatologist instead of just him as a cancer doctor, create a
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whole document. And it's been his little side
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project. And throughout the time I would
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get curious and ask questions and I would ask him, he's like,
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that's a good question. And then he'd go off and do more
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research. And so it just kind of came to
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be that we wanted to create this document, especially when he
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found out some of the different things we were doing.
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He was like, that doesn't make sense.
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Like stop doing that. Oh, like what?
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What did he say to stop? The biggest thing that he got
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grouchy about was people using tegaderm without an occlusive
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under it and then playing on top of it.
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Can you explain what tegaderm is?
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OK, so Tegaderm is it is very similar to the clear film that
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you get after a tattoo. It's basically the same exact
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thing. Tegaderm is a brand name I think
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actually, but it's just the clear wound film that people put
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on top after impact play. And it's totally fine to play on
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top of. You just need an occlusive
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between because otherwise if you go and wipe it off and swipe it
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off off with a belt or a strap or whatever you're playing with
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at the time, it takes skin off as well.
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And I made this mistake and then had worn jeans after and he was
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like, why did you put this on? I was like, I don't know,
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everyone puts it on like that's just.
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It is what we do. It's what?
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Everyone does. And he was like, how did this
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start? And I was like, I think that
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people just think it's pretty because, like, band aids are
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kind of big and clunky and bulky.
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And they are like, don't get me. Yeah, sometimes they are,
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especially if you're trying to play all weekend.
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But I was like, but otherwise, I have no actual idea why we do
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that. And he was like, stop.
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Like if you're going to do that, you need to put like an
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inclusive in between. It is that stuff that is like
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petroleum Jelly, Vaseline, triple antibiotic ointment is
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also technically unocclusive and that will work just as well.
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But some people are allergic to that, so I don't always say to.
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Oh, that's fair. Yeah, you gotta like keep an eye
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on that stuff too. OK, so like a little bit of
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Vaseline under the Tegaderm? Cleaned it out like you need to
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clean it out because occlusives will trap bacteria but also the
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other part of this is tegaderm is technically unocclusive like
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it will also trap bacteria. So no matter what you're doing,
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you need to clean out your wound before you cover it.
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And I don't even know, like, how do I explain this to everyone?
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Yes, sometimes we play hard. Sometimes we play to the point
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of skin breaking. And it happens.
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It happens at these weekend long parties where there's just a lot
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going on. It happens also if one time I
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spent two hours in a hot tub before getting spanked and yeah,
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my lovely spanker was like, I need to stop.
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Your skin is just way too dried out for this.
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Thank God he was aware enough to be like, this needs to stop.
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But yeah, so it can even happen in one session.
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You hear a lot of people talk about weeping where their skin
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will start to reveal it's actually just plastic not coming
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through the skin. So it's not blood, but it looks
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like sweat. And it's little pearls that show
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up on a person's butt and they think it's open.
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I'm like, it's not open, but it is close.
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And you should probably stop if you don't want open skin like.
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I have definitely played to that place a lot.
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And then that's where I've stopped because I don't, that's
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what happens to me frequently. So I'm half Iranian, half Irish.
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I am not white, white. Do you know what I mean?
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My butt doesn't go. Texas.
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So I feel like if you were like sitting in Texas all day, we
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might even out. I mean, I do have a little bit
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of a tan. So when you, when you talked
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about not getting rosy pink, right, I related so hard because
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I'm like, yes, I too do not. I have brown nipples and my butt
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doesn't go rosy pink when it's spanked, which is upsetting to
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me, but it is what it is. So when you describe that, I was
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like, yeah, I can relate. But also sometimes, and I have a
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lot of people ask me about this. So I definitely want to mention
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it. And it happened to me recently,
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just this year, I got spanked to the point of now having what I
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kind of was like, is this a permanent bruised?
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But it's just permanent discoloration.
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And in your class, I want you to say it again, but in your class,
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you sort of gave me hope this will go away eventually and I
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needed to just take better care of myself afterwards.
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So what did I do wrong? How could I have avoided?
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And then I have play partners who think they bruised me.
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And I'm like, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but this is from
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a long time ago when I fucked myself.
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Months ago and it is so that is called PIH.
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It is a hyperpigmentation that happens after impact and you are
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genetically predisposed to it. So like it's not necessarily
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something that is going to go away permanently, but it's
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definitely something that you can take care of and lighten
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quicker than what is already happening if you didn't take
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care of it. And if you just take care of it
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like a normal post spanking party routine.
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I personally have started using Paula's Choice, which has a
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couple different ingredients in it that I can go through.
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But basically the main idea is that one, you can't just like
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exfoliate the shit out of your skin and make it better
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tomorrow. You're probably gonna irritate
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it. I had somebody smiling because.
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You did. I just thought I could exfoliate
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it away. I did.
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Yeah, because the problem is it's based on inflammation.
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It's post inflammatory hyperpigmentation is what it is.
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And so it's not just that first layer and it's going to take a
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while to go away. So the things that you can use
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are things like vitamin C serum has been a lot of people's go to
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and I've found that it also works for me.
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And whenever I tell them, they're like, this was my
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lifesaver. Because what it does is it's
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just brightening, but it's not bleaching or lightening.
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Bleaching or lightning will just weaken your skin.
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And that is not it if we're trying to play in the future.
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Definitely not. Definitely not it.
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And then I personally really took to a gentle exfoliation,
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not just like a hardcore scrub or anything.
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And I do that a couple of times a week and then ease off of it
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as I'm about to go into another party just because I don't want
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my skin to be irritated. And so I use like a Dove gentle
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cleanser exfoliation bar. It's super, super light and it's
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not going to do much damage. You can't really overuse it.
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Whereas with a scrub or a dry brush, I've had so many people
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be like, I tried dry brushing and I'm like, that's great,
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except for the problem is you're just gonna irritate the out of
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your butt and like, that's, that's not it either.
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I'm having this moment. So eight years ago, maybe nine
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years ago, I got a job at a skin care company in their marketing
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department, and I learned everything I needed to know
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about skin care for my face. And it changed my life.
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It changed how I took care of my skin.
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Yeah. And then I sat in your class,
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and I was like, oh, my God, I need to be looking after my
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other cheeks as well. And it never occurred to me that
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this part of my body that I love and I'm so obsessed with and I
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show off to quite a number of people.
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Yep, same. I am not actually taken care of
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in any serious way. So did you have something
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similar basically once you started talking to your doctor?
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Like we went from zero routine to actually having a routine.
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I am ADHD so I'm like notoriously bad at taking care
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of myself. In reality as I get older I'm
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like this is not panning out well.
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So I've made myself a routine and it is working.
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But basically I've learned keeping it simple is key because
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otherwise consistency and simple is better than complicated.
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And every once in a while, 100% yeah, with your face and with
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your butt. And your life, actually your
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life. It's just general advice.
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Keep it simple, keep it consistent.
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That's how you move forward. Yeah, I had no routine going
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into it. I would moisturize before
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parties and drink water because that's what everyone told me to
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do. And yet I would go to parties
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and my skin would be toast by the end of the weekend.
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And I was like, what is going on?
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Even when I was sick and just playing with my top Kelly, like,
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she would be like, spanked you for 30 minutes and you are
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bruising. We need to figure something out.
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That's when I outed myself and was like, I need help because I
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need to be able to play longer than 12 minutes.
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And and so that was when I developed a routine and it was
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mostly different lotions and locking in lotions with an
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occlusive like Vaseline and then gentle exfoliation and then just
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keeping up on nutrition based things as well, which was a key
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component that I was not great at.
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Again, that's what my degree is. In it's like, you know, the
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nutrition matters in all aspects of life, including that, but
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like, what is that no alcohol like or very little alcohol.
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I don't. Want to be the person that's
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like, don't drink and play. Because in reality, my spicy
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take is like, people can have a drink and go play and it's
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probably OK. Like we are all consenting
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adults. We can make our own decisions.
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Yeah, fair. Like if you're not visibly
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drunk, like that's so different. That's it's like.
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Different situations, right? But the reason why I care about
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alcohol is actually because of bruising.
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And I said that in my class. I was like, the number one thing
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that I ask people, particularly at party is because people will
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go down to the bar to take the edge off and then come back up
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and forget that they even had a drink or two, right?
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And that's fine and terms of consent, but that doesn't
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actually give me a lot of information if you don't tell me
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because alcohol is a blood thinner, which is fun.
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If you don't realize as a top that somebody has been drinking
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and then you go to hit them and all of a sudden they're
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bruising. And especially if you've played
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with them before and you're like, I've never seen you bruise
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like this. That is a bit of a mindfuck.
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It's just useful information, right?
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It's similar to asking if somebody's taken out Advil or a
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blood thinner, right? Like it's the same concept.
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It's. Sort of like a quick medical
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check. Yeah, actually, when you play
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with someone over and over again, sometimes you do get into
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that routine, and you're so right about that.
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Also, if they're not used to bruising themselves and then
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they see bruises, that can be alarming.
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And also, just like I've said in the workshop, I live in Texas.
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Like people want to go swimming and wear shorts and it's hot as
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balls outside right now. And I don't really want to have
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to wear jeans everywhere I go. I don't want to like make people
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see my, especially if it's like obvious cane welts or something
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like that. Like, Oh yeah, I don't really
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want to like walk around my neighborhood with showing off
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after, right? But the other side of that is I
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want to have a good party and I want to get my money's worth of
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something that I spent a lot of money on to like go do.
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And so that it's hard to mix that.
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And I tried to make sure that in the workshop I was like, it's OK
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to do hard play. You just need to know how to
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take care of it afterwards. And you need to know your
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limits, right? Like if you really can't mark
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then I don't have a magic eraser for you.
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You spoke about this, the Hickey thing like the brushing it out
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with a comb, remember? Well, like we did that or we.
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Tried. Yeah, or like a cold spoon was
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always the one that I was told which I was like.
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I couldn't imagine that working though, because it's just like a
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cold. Spoon Yeah, no.
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There's no real tried and true way to easily get rid of bruises
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once they're on you. There are a couple of things you
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can do. The main thing is immediately
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after, that's the time to ice. I hear people talking about
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like, oh, I went home and 72 hours later I'm still icing my
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butt and I'm like, that's not going to do anything guys,
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because the idea of ice and bruising is to slow the blood
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flow, right? And so after you get hit, that
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is the time to put ice on. Use a cloth.
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You don't want ice burn. Usually it rooms it's like a zip
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lock bag and. Yeah, like a little bag, Yeah.
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You got right and then 72 hours after, that's when you start
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adding heat. And so it's light heat and then
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gentle massage and you can get rid of it.
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And then the extra little fun fact you can just put KT tape
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over it and it looks like a sports injury.
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Oh yeah, that's a good call. Yeah, I think that sometimes
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people are like, oh, well, I can't wish shirts.
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And I'm like, no, no, you can wear shorts.
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I wear shorts. I just put KT tape over it and
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then take it off it. And I, you know, do your normal
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moisturizing routine. But if you need to go somewhere
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and you need to have your marks out for whatever reason, whether
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it's swimming or an event or whatever you're doing, just
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throw some KT tape on it. It just puts the mind in the
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place of, oh, this is a sports injury.
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And no one will have a second thought about it is the other
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thing. There is no follow up questions.
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There's no wire, there's perfect stripes.
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You don't need to have any of that.
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I did not see your cane stripes on the front of your thighs, but
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my roommate came back with them and they were so beautiful.
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I think hers probably disappeared within three or four
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days, I cannot remember. But I was like, wow, I don't
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want to be caned on my thighs anywhere actually, but if I did
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I would want it to look like that.
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It is a very special thing to be able to have somebody like Mark
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you that precisely, Precisely. Yeah.
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It's like somebody was like, I see a lot of people tap their
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cane and then they hit like 3 inches from where they were.
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A lot of times, which does happen, like canes are
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notoriously difficult implements.
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They are, they just are. My partner Kelly has kind of
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gotten in the fronts of thighs down to a tee.
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I mean she if she has the rest of canes down to a tee too.
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I've been to her strapping classes before and I don't think
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I had never seen her use a cane until at task this wonderful
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party that. But like my first blog entry was
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about a play scene. I had a task because it was just
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the most magical time. So the Texas Allstate Spanking
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Party happens every June in Dallas.
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I went and I signed up for the judicial event, which I am still
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maybe mentally recovering from. And I don't know why I even
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signed up to get the photograph. And I'm like, I did not need
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this angle of myself knowing what everybody was seeing.
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But I'm gonna explain the judicial event really quick.
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It's a headspacey immersive scene.
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So people sign up. It's all consensual.
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We sign up, we put on like an orange T-shirt and we are
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marched to the front of an auditorium.
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And the idea is that this is a judicial punishment.
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Like we're in prison and getting punished 1 by 1 publicly.
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I signed up to do this. When you sign up in advance, you
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just fill it out. You say whether you want it
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soft, medium or hard and panties up or down and how many strokes
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you want and in what implement. OK, so those are your options.
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I chose to have a male spanker. That's my preference.
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For some reason you chose panties down, which I couldn't
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believe. I chose that and I chose medium
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10, thank God. And oh, there's one more option,
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severe, right? And choose that.
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So I got mine done pretty early, so I got to watch other people
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and I watched Kelly give some of the most impressive, frightening
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canings I have ever seen in my entire life.
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And I can say that without question, I was a pro Dom.
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I've been around a lot of canings.
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This was not the first severe scene I'd seen, but Oh my gosh,
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I think it's the headspace Enos of it and everything like that.
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So for anyone who is going to task, think seriously about it.
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But if that is your fantasy, I would highly recommend signing
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up. I don't know if I could ever
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recommend, even if it's your fantasy, someone choosing severe
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because it was so intense and the crowd, like you could hear a
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pin drop except for the actual caning.
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But it's like, OK, that's my aside story of watching Kelly
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really be precise and impressive with the cane.
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And one of the things I noticed was I think that happens on a
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Sunday. She had to work around other
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people's marks, bruises, cuts, and then you were on hand floor.
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What role were you playing? So I played Nurse at Judicial,
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which is exactly what it sounds like.
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They come off the stage and I get to look at their butt.
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It's really fun. Then be like, OK, you have some
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open skin here or you have a bandage that is already coming
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off. Do you want me to fix it?
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And then fixing whatever they need, giving them a towel, some
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water to come down. Because it is, like you said,
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incredibly, it is our most intense event by a wide margin,
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like very wide margin. And I tell people I'm like, if
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this isn't one of your fantasies, you should probably
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at least watch it before you decide if you want to do it.
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Like I. Should have done that.
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I do tell I'm like, you really should watch it because the
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other thing is, is it's different at different events,
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right? Like some parties, I know that
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it's more humorous. And Tasp has tried to really
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make this the most serious thing possible because there are
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multiple people in our Dallas community that is their core
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fetish. And so it has stayed that way
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and we will keep it that way. But I always tell people like,
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no, you really should watch the task one before you try and do
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it. If not, you should talk to
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someone. I should have done that and I
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didn't. And I like owning up to that
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because like, even I make mistakes and some people don't
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realize that everyone knows I love an interrogation scene and
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I like extreme things. So I was like, OK, I really do
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want to try this. I don't regret trying it at all.
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I don't know if I would do it again because it was so
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headspacey, intense, embarrassing.
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And I found it's the most headspacey event I've ever done.
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So that was amazing in itself. It is remarkable.
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Somebody explained it to me as they were like, I've been to all
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of these other events all weekend long that are like loud
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and crazy and that is over stimulating.
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And they were like, and then I wasn't here and I thought that I
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wouldn't be over stimulated and it was the most overstimulated
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I've been the entire weekend because it is so intense.
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And it really is. It's intense for the audience.
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I spoke to some people afterwards and they talked about
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how difficult it was to watch for some of them.
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I actually can't watch it. Like that's the reason why I am
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the nurse. Like I would nurse in it and I
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would top in it, but I will not bottom in it and I will not
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watch it because I just know that I wouldn't cope with it
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well. I don't think I did cope with.
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It and that's not anything to the like proficiency at the top.
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So it's not, it's just like it's intense.
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You all do a really good job of putting it together.
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It's so nice when you do come off the stage zone, you have
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water in a towel and then you're all sort of sitting together.
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It makes a huge difference. It's the aftercare you need.
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You're not even thinking about aftercare after something like
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that, but. It's the whole reason why we
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have those mats now. We have like a different group
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doing our dungeon. We used to get all of our
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dungeon furniture together and it was so chaotic.
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And so now we have like a team of people who do it for us,
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which is way better. Team dungeons are great, but now
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we just have these wrestling mats and we were like, do we
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still need wrestling mats? We were in our storage unit and
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I was like, yes, we do. We need them for the judicial
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event. And everyone was like, OK, yeah,
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fair enough. We've got one hand for that.
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Every two months you have bottoms up as well, right?
18:35
And that like a mini party. Yeah.
18:36
So bottoms up is where Tasp stems from.
18:40
So bottoms up technically owns tasks.
18:42
Bottom up is what hosts Tasp every June and it is every other
18:46
month. There is usually a theme
18:48
involved. So our next one is Back to
18:50
School, which usually people just show up in school uniforms
18:52
or whatever they want to wear, but the theme is school attire,
18:56
ish. And it is basically just if you
18:59
took the evening sweets at tasks which start around 7:00 and they
19:02
go to like two or three or whenever people decide to go
19:05
home, is what we say. Like whenever the party ends,
19:08
the party ends. Back to School is our only one
19:10
that is 2 nights and it's two nights for 30 bucks.
19:13
And wow. Yeah.
19:14
Our goal is to make it really accessible.
19:16
That is Kelly's whole thing. It has always been her thing is
19:19
that she wants everyone to be able to get their kink needs
19:22
met, even if it means making the party $30 and which is hard
19:26
money. Yeah, it's it's really hard,
19:28
especially because hotel contracts, y'all are expensive.
19:31
People don't make money off of this.
19:32
Like the amount which I need people to understand.
19:34
People do not make money off from speaking.
19:36
It is an actual labor of love. It is literally a labor of love
19:40
to throw these parties because I've had any type of convention.
19:43
Most of them aren't making money.
19:45
And I think that people don't understand that.
19:47
And then they have specific expectations, especially if it's
19:50
their first time. And that's fair.
19:51
Like you're paying a lot of money, you're wanting to come do
19:53
these things, especially at national parties.
19:54
And that is the moment when I'm like you should go to a bottoms
19:56
up. The two night is $30.00.
19:59
The one nights which are the every other month are 20 bucks.
20:02
And there is a block so you can register with the hotel and you
20:05
can get into our block or you can just come if you're staying
20:08
in the area, just show up and you can pay at the door or you
20:11
can pre register online. It's the same price either way.
20:14
We set out some MM's and we have a good time and it's very
20:17
community oriented and you have some regulars and then you have
20:20
people who come in. So I think actually like.
20:22
Quite a few people from tasks who are out of state will be
20:25
coming in for bottoms up partially to just like cure some
20:28
drop post tasp I think is like the.
20:30
Oh my gosh, just. What I get usually, but it's
20:33
real and it's it's a good time. The post party drop is very
20:36
freaking real. I don't think I've ever felt it
20:38
as much as I did at TASP. I live in Vegas, Oasis happens
20:42
in Vegas, so I've never had to travel for a spanking party.
20:45
All of it like the excitement of going on a trip.
20:47
All of it like the come down after that is intense.
20:49
So it is a lot. I'd like to find us like a local
20:52
spanker to sort of take the edge off for me.
20:55
We have gone through a couple of things but I'm wondering if we
20:57
can do like a quick rundown of if I want to moisturize, what
21:02
should I be getting? What ingredients should I be
21:04
looking for? What's the best way to take care
21:06
of my skin both on a day-to-day basis and then maybe post play
21:09
pre play like. Yeah, absolutely.
21:12
So day-to-day usually unless you have aggressively dry skin, I'm
21:17
talking like cracking, flaking, right.
21:20
Like if that is the thing then that's a different story.
21:22
You probably need something a little heavier duty than just
21:24
like Cetaphil. But for most people something
21:27
like Cetaphil or Cera VE or Aveeno will work.
21:31
Those have different. Things you get at your
21:32
drugstore, yes. Yes, this is the other thing.
21:35
I really have this pet peeve of people being like, I got this
21:40
super fancy lotion. I'm like, that's great.
21:42
That's not accessible for the vast majority of people.
21:45
We need a different option. So the other ones at the
21:49
drugstore work y'all. It's fine now.
21:50
Everyone you've mentioned is a drugstore.
21:53
Yeah, so there's a couple different things about each one.
21:56
The other option is Eucerin, which is a little bit more of an
21:59
occlusive, like an Aquaphor. It's a little bit heavier duty.
22:02
That's more for somebody who has really, really dry skin, if they
22:06
have like eczema, that would be a good option.
22:08
But Cetaphil is generally what my doctor has decided to just
22:12
tell everybody now. He's like, because it's super,
22:16
super sensitive skin safe. It is mostly glycerin, which is
22:20
great for people with sensitive skin.
22:22
It's glycerin and some other simple emollients, which is
22:26
basically just other ways to moisturize.
22:28
It won't irritate your skin. It is also fragrance free, which
22:32
important. Yeah.
22:33
So a lot of people get really nice smelling lotions and they
22:36
have essential oils in them. And that's great except for the
22:39
fact that if you were going to play on top of essential oils,
22:42
they can irritate your skin because a lot of essential oils
22:44
will react to heat and friction. And so if it is on your skin,
22:48
that is not going to feel very good.
22:50
If you're not playing, OK, but if you're going to be playing
22:53
eventually or within a time frame.
22:56
So like it's totally fine if you're like a couple weeks out
22:58
from the party and you're like, I have this really fun thing and
23:00
I went to the spa and I want to do this great cool.
23:02
But if it's just pre party, like I would go lighter and
23:05
personally like I like a light lotion every day.
23:08
Because also it makes your skin less prone to breakouts and
23:10
ingrowns, which is the other reason why people get open skin
23:16
is because they'll have like the teeniest, tiniest pimple and all
23:19
of a sudden it opens and it spreads as you keep on playing
23:22
on top of it, right? And so the best way to avoid
23:25
skin opening is also to make sure that your skin is clear.
23:28
And so something like Cetaphil is really light and very useful
23:32
in that circumstance. The other options that I see a
23:34
lot of people use are Cera VE and Aveeno.
23:37
I know at Task, we actually have those on hand.
23:39
We keep them in the suite for people at this point because
23:42
we're like y'all need to moisturize more.
23:43
And teaching anyone to drink more water.
23:45
Sometimes you just gotta put it in your hand.
23:47
Yeah, you just have to like leave it right there.
23:49
And the hope that people utilize it.
23:51
Aveeno is known for being really useful for people post party.
23:56
I see a lot of people use it post play.
23:58
The reason why is because that has colloidal oatmeal in it.
24:01
So it is really good for itchy skin.
24:04
I hear a lot of people about a week after and got a lot of
24:07
messages being like my that's itchy.
24:09
And I'm like, yeah, you gotta moisturize guys.
24:11
And then the answer is usually a vino.
24:13
For that, OK, my butt itches within 24 hours.
24:16
Like that is often the most irritating.
24:18
There's no other word for it. It's really figuratively, like
24:21
it makes me feel sick to my stomach because it's so itchy.
24:24
That's sitting down. It's not the pain, it's not the
24:26
bruising, it's the itching that really.
24:28
Irritating. So colloidal oatmeal is great
24:31
for that. That is literally what it's made
24:33
for. Aveeno often is used for people
24:35
with eczema because it calms down the inflammation and the
24:39
itchiness. It is a little bit thicker than
24:42
Cetaphil, so if you are prone to breakouts after a couple weeks
24:46
of using it, I might suggest moving to a different option
24:51
unless you are just constantly having dry skin problems or if
24:54
you live like you're living in Vegas, it's really dry there.
24:57
So you could go with a heavier duty lotion and it would
24:59
probably be fine, right? But for somebody who is living
25:02
in a really humid place, for instance, Dallas currently has
25:04
like 60% humidity. That's not it for some I.
25:08
Also, just like lighter. So I would always go lighter,
25:10
but for the itching, I would do whatever it takes.
25:13
Yeah, I would put an inch of cream.
25:14
Oh man, Yeah, rid of the itching.
25:16
Super nice. The other thing is with like
25:18
Itchy, a lot of people will go in and take a hot shower because
25:21
it's like it feels good right in that moment.
25:24
It feels like it's relieving it, but it will not feel good long
25:28
after. Everyone is like, I'm going to
25:29
go in the hot tub and something I'm like, OK, you do that.
25:31
Make sure to rinse off your body and moisturize.
25:33
I feel like a mom just like chirping at people's ear all
25:35
weekend. The moisturizing I, I know I'm
25:38
bad at it. It's hard to add it into your
25:40
schedule. I have just started putting it
25:42
in my nightly routine. I think that if you try and
25:45
build it somewhere else into the day, like it's probably not
25:48
going to happen. Let's be realistic here.
25:51
It's probably not going to happen.
25:52
So I do it in the evening either like after I shower or if I'm
25:57
just going to bed, then I'll do it like literally while I'm
25:59
brushing my teeth. Like something really quick.
26:01
Even if it's just one of the steps.
26:02
One of the steps is better than none.
26:04
And then the other option, which is Cera VE, we have Cera VE in
26:08
our suites. It is.
26:10
I actually can't use it because I'm allergic.
26:12
To it. But it is also the thing that I
26:15
hear the most people have success with.
26:17
That is probably because it has hyaluronic acid in it, which is
26:21
a constantly tough about thing that I hear a lot of people
26:24
reference and it's great. Don't get me wrong, I love
26:26
Hyaluronic House and I think it's very useful.
26:28
The only thing is sometimes it gets suggested without the
26:31
little asterisks of if you don't drink enough water and you are
26:34
in a dry environment, it will take the moisture from your skin
26:38
instead of putting moisture in your skin.
26:40
And so people will be using it in like Vegas when we're at
26:43
Oasis. And I'm like, if you're not
26:45
drinking water, you're going to just irritate your butt.
26:48
Y'all like you need. Yeah, like drink, drink some
26:50
water or even if you. Are you need a lot of water?
26:53
Exactly. So that's kind of the down low
26:55
on the three main ones. And then the Eucerin like I said
26:57
that one has urea in it and it's an occlusive.
26:59
So that is really more for a heavy duty, it would be a akin
27:03
to using like a body butter, which is heavy and I would say
27:07
would make you more prone to breakouts unless you are flaking
27:10
or cracking. Like some people's skin will
27:12
literally crack. And like you see a lot of
27:13
people's skin turn white, yes, when they get hit, right.
27:16
And that that's dry skin. That's just what it is.
27:18
It's right. Yeah.
27:19
Some people are more prone to dry skin.
27:21
Generally, the more melanated you are, you are more prone to
27:23
dry skin. Like that is just kind of how it
27:25
goes. And so you kind of have to
27:28
balance that out, right? So if you have somebody who's
27:30
really melanated and you're doing cane stripes on them and
27:32
you see white marks like that is just a sign that you're probably
27:35
just hitting them and that's how they're marking.
27:37
And that's fine. And then you just have to be a
27:40
little more careful about watching to see if there's like
27:42
some bruising undertones or if it's starting to weep.
27:44
Then that's the moment you need to take a step back with
27:46
something like that. What is the threat of playing
27:49
past? Weeping.
27:50
The threat of playing past weeping is for the most part
27:53
just open skin. Usually with open skin, I think
27:56
people think that when I say open skin, sometimes I think
28:00
they think I mean like a gash. And I'm like, that's not what I
28:03
mean. Like if you've got into a gash,
28:05
that is something that either you have pre negotiated or
28:08
somebody has aggressively, aggressively fucked up.
28:12
And I've seen both. Usually open skin for most
28:16
spankos comes in, it'll look like a little patch basically,
28:20
and it will be like a. Usually it's a weak spot or it's
28:23
a spot that has just been hit repeatedly because it might be
28:26
because someone's hitting unevenly.
28:27
Like usually if you get a strap someone will hit more on one
28:31
than the other and that is a thing that happens.
28:33
And usually it's a little patch that has skin where it's just
28:37
kind of gotten rubbed off from friction.
28:39
Often I see people talk about how it's like no wood until
28:42
Sundays. And my little pet peeve with
28:44
this is like if I use a six foot strap, I could take off the same
28:47
amount of skin that I could take off with a hair brush in
28:50
reality. And just for everyone listening,
28:52
I know the rule, too. No wood until Sundays.
28:54
You show up at these parties on Thursday.
28:56
You play hard all weekend. But if you play on Thursday with
28:58
a hair brush or a wooden paddle, yeah, you might ruin your whole
29:02
weekend. Yeah.
29:03
And because the other thing is like, a lot of this is very pain
29:06
tolerance related, right? So it's like if you have a
29:09
really high pain tolerance and it doesn't matter if you're
29:11
bruising aggressively, Yeah. And you don't care if you play
29:13
over bruises, then like, you playing on wood on Friday
29:16
doesn't matter as much if you are worried about your skin
29:19
breaking open, right? Like, that is a different
29:21
situation. And sometimes you kind of have
29:23
to decide, like, which one is my priority in this situation,
29:27
honestly. Like I'm happy to play with a
29:28
paddle over jeans on Thursday, Friday because one, it's over
29:32
jeans. So like I feel pretty confident
29:34
that nothing is going to happen even if somebody like took a
29:37
hard swing at me. But the other thing is, is that
29:39
like with a strap, strap is a lot of friction.
29:43
And so no matter how good of technique your top has, they
29:47
could have the best technique in the world, it still pulls your
29:49
skin. Like that is the whole thing of
29:51
a strap. And so if you continuously pull
29:53
in your skin, particularly if your skin has a weak spot
29:55
already, you are prone to opening that up.
29:58
And that's where that little patch comes in when we have open
30:00
skin that we talk about. And usually you don't notice it
30:03
in the moment because you're high on endorphins and like
30:06
you're in the midst of the scene and you won't really know.
30:09
And then after sometimes particularly new tops, I think
30:12
don't catch it because it looks like weeping.
30:14
Sometimes, especially if their butt gets red particularly, you
30:17
won't see it because they're. Yeah, it's a different thing,
30:20
yeah. But you if you are weeping, that
30:23
is the moment that you need to be looking in that area to see
30:26
if any area is like, particularly if it's starting to
30:29
get raised. Once it gets raised and then you
30:31
start hitting on top of it, that is when you open up the skin.
30:35
And then you are prone to having weak spots for a while and weak
30:38
spots for those listening who are not aware of what weak spots
30:41
are. It's basically just a spot that
30:42
has been hit over and over again and then as at some point been
30:45
opened. And when you go back to play on
30:47
top of it, it's more prone to opening up again.
30:49
And it's really annoying. So I kind of tell people like if
30:52
you're gonna play a lot and you don't want something to open up
30:55
constantly, you probably need to work to make sure that you're
30:58
not playing to open skin. Some people are fine with
31:01
playing to open skin and that is like a choice that they can
31:03
make. I as a top will not play to open
31:05
skin unless somebody specifically asks.
31:08
And I think as a general rule, that is like a pretty, and I
31:12
think that is kind of the standard at spanking parties in
31:15
general, right? It's like when you see weeping,
31:17
you stop and then renegotiate and talk about it.
31:19
But the main issue really with weeping is the skin opening and
31:23
then having weeks box down the road for years and years.
31:26
Yeah, I ask because I've played past weeping on myself.
31:30
I don't enjoy doing that as a top, but I know I've done it and
31:33
I'm like, OK, what are the risks here?
31:34
Let me at least be risk aware in my practice if I'm going to do
31:38
that. Another thing that I've done,
31:39
we're just going through all of Amanda's mistakes today and
31:41
things that she has done. This wasn't so much a mistake.
31:44
I used to be a pro sub way back in the day when I worked in a
31:47
dungeon. I was also a pro Dom, but I got
31:49
leather. But because I was one of the
31:50
hard Subs and I feel, you know, memory is a weird thing.
31:54
I'm like, I feel like I had leather but for six months.
31:56
I know that sounds crazy, but I really think that it lasted for
31:59
a very long time. Leather, but for those listening
32:02
as someone who has gotten it, your butt, well my butt at least
32:06
genuinely felt like it had a thick almost quarter of an inch
32:10
layer on it. I'm not saying it was that, but
32:12
when you touched it, it almost felt like it moved in this one
32:14
big mass because it was thick like leather and it felt gross.
32:18
It was dry. It was not attractive for me to
32:21
have that. It wasn't attractive to myself.
32:23
I don't think it was attractive to anyone else who had to feel
32:26
it. I played a little lighter to try
32:28
and let it go away, but like, what could I have done possibly
32:31
to avoid it or like gotten rid of it sooner?
32:33
Have you ever had it, Flora? I particularly like when I was
32:37
first coming in and I was playing a lot and I was only
32:40
bottoming and so at party as I was just running around for four
32:43
days straight just being like hit me.
32:44
I got leather butt very quickly, especially because I was in a
32:47
dynamic so I was able to get my knees met kind of every day.
32:50
And basically The thing is, is the more you play, the more
32:53
likely you are to have leather butt, which sucks.
32:56
That just is what it is and it is leather butt is very akin to
33:00
going on the monkey bars and getting calluses on your hands.
33:03
If you stop going on the monkey bars, you will eventually not
33:07
have the calluses. It is the same thing with this,
33:09
right? Like if you're not playing, you
33:10
will not have a leather, but but that is not always an option,
33:13
whether it's because you are a pro at the time and so like
33:16
that's not an option, right? It might be because you're
33:18
filming. It might just be because you
33:19
have another party to go to and you don't want to have leather.
33:22
But the next party you go to, the main things with that are 1.
33:27
Hydrating beforehand. It's cheesy.
33:29
We say it all the time, like the more you hydrate, the better off
33:32
you skin is going to be. The whole thing about your skin
33:36
recovering and your skin developing leather but in the
33:38
1st place is how resilient it is.
33:40
So drinking a lot of water. The other thing that I am going
33:44
to harp on for a second is people eating enough protein.
33:47
There is a thing at parties where people will accidentally
33:50
brag about the fact that they haven't eaten a real meal in a
33:54
day or they haven't because they're running around and doing
33:56
things and I'm like that's great, that's fun.
33:58
And yes, it is a very relatable experience.
34:00
Don't get me wrong, it's super relatable and also you need to
34:03
eat actual protein because protein is the thing that is
34:07
going to help you rebuild that tissue faster and it will help
34:10
you rebuild healthy tissue faster.
34:12
And in reality, leather butt is calloused tissue.
34:15
And so if we are going to try to replace that, we need more
34:19
nutrients in our bodies than what we are probably getting
34:22
post play. Often people a lot of times see
34:24
me walking around parties with like a protein shake.
34:27
You don't need to be that aggressive.
34:28
I just actually really like protein.
34:31
But like, I actually find them very useful because I don't like
34:34
playing while feeling full and. Sometimes you're on your
34:36
stomach, literally. So I don't know, maybe this is a
34:39
girl thing because I said this to multiple guys and they were
34:41
like, huh? So that's my little spiel on
34:44
protein. The other thing that you can do
34:45
is you can exfoliate, you can moisturize.
34:48
The more you moisturize, the better.
34:50
So I actually weirdly managed to get rid of my leather butt
34:54
accidentally while I was getting rid of a weak spot as well that
34:57
it opened up during a party, which was I took Tegaderm and I
35:01
put that Vaseline on my butt and then put Tegaderm over it
35:04
basically like a mask after I play it.
35:06
It's so smart. I'm literally like Oh my gosh.
35:09
That's what it does is it doesn't allow your skin to
35:11
harden. You are making it moisturized
35:14
inside there. Yeah, just wrapping it.
35:15
And it was while I was in Vegas, like my skin was already dry
35:18
because I was in Vegas in an air conditioned hotel.
35:21
Like that's just how it goes. So I did that, got rid of most
35:24
of my leather, but I would say within about a month.
35:27
And so I didn't do that every night, but that was the thing
35:28
that like really speed up my process.
35:30
And then after that it was just being really consistent about
35:34
OK, putting on moisturizer, vitamin C serum will still help
35:37
in that situation. A more aggressive exfoliant.
35:40
If it's I would say after like a week and your skin is calmed
35:43
down and not irritated. If it's just that like leather
35:45
button, you're seeing it after a week, you can go in with a
35:47
higher aggressive exfoliant and be OK assuming that you're not
35:50
going to play like within the next 72 hours. 25 year old me
35:53
needed to hear all of this. 36 year old me is a little bit like
35:57
all of this. Makes sense.
35:58
I don't play to leather butt anymore but right.
36:00
I'll never forget having it. And callus is the word I was
36:03
missing. It's it was exactly like the
36:05
thing I have on my feet from time to time if I haven't been
36:07
for a pedicure in a minute, right?
36:09
Right. It's like literally as hard.
36:10
And it's interesting too, because it's really hard to
36:12
explain to somebody who hasn't seen it before.
36:14
Like somebody will often ask me like what's leather, but because
36:17
I'll talk about it at a party and I'll be like, oh, like I had
36:19
leather, but this time or whatever, I always say somebody
36:21
like, what's leather. But I'm like I truly do not know
36:23
how to explain this to you without you seeing it because
36:27
it's like you poke it and the butt is literally hard.
36:30
Yes, it's. Like literally I felt like I
36:32
could move a butt cheek. Like just move part of it the
36:35
whole. Thing moves instead of just
36:36
poking that one spot and bitter being a small indentation.
36:39
It's like the whole circle goes down when you poke in one spot.
36:43
Yeah. And it's really, really wide.
36:45
And I remember the first time I got it, I freaked out because I
36:48
didn't know what it was. No one had explained it to me.
36:50
I like came to Kelly crying. It was what is wrong with my
36:54
skin because I was already so many skin problems.
36:56
I've managed to make it like so that it wasn't breaking open and
36:59
she was like, sweetie, it's fine, it's OK.
37:01
And then later we did figure out it was like and weirdly the
37:03
Tegaderm Vaseline thing was completely trial and error in
37:06
reality, like, but I have done it multiple times since then and
37:09
this still worked every single time.
37:10
And so now I'm just like, look, it's really aggressive
37:13
moisturizing. Like that's the answer.
37:14
And it makes so much sense. I definitely wasn't even.
37:16
I wasn't hydrating, I wasn't moisturizing, I wasn't drink
37:19
eating enough protein like in my mid 20s running around New York
37:22
City. I was doing all the opposite.
37:24
People who do that, yeah, like. Things no 36 year old me has
37:27
most of that on lock. No, I have figured.
37:30
It I've got it down. I've got it down now.
37:32
Yeah, it is. There are.
37:32
Some things I've learned, that is one of them.
37:34
It's fun because our household is me as a almost 24 year old,
37:38
very young, then Kelly who is 10 years older than me, and then
37:42
Victoria who's in his 50s and we all live in a house together.
37:45
Our range of party experience is remarkably different and has a
37:51
lot of similarities, but there are some things in there that
37:53
I'm like Victoria, that is not a relatable experience.
37:56
I don't know, I'm kind of tired and done for the night.
37:58
I could go to bed now. Yeah, I think age plays a part
38:00
in that too, because at a certain point you stop having
38:02
FOMO a little bit like the fear of missing out.
38:04
It's like not lived it, done it. It'll be here tomorrow.
38:07
Start going to more things like the first three or four party,
38:11
but now I go to like three to four parties a year plus bottoms
38:14
up every other month. I'm like, I'm good.
38:16
I don't need to be up until 4. AMI don't think I'm gonna miss
38:20
out. I'm gonna be honest.
38:22
And there's some events that I've just learned that like
38:24
aren't for me unless mine too. But that is a bit of trial and
38:27
error. And I think I am quite lucky in
38:29
the sense that I have multiple opportunities per year to figure
38:32
out what works for me and what doesn't.
38:34
That is obviously a very specific experience.
38:36
Yeah, and you do have to figure it out.
38:38
I'm yeah, I'm really big on my own sleep.
38:39
Like I think Friday night of the party I left at like 9:30 or 10,
38:43
got in bed and slept for hours and I was like I'm happy this
38:46
felt. Great.
38:48
I told everyone the next day about this amazing sleep I had.
38:51
Yeah. And they're all sitting there
38:52
like. What?
38:53
Yeah, well, they were like I was in the suite.
38:54
Still 5:00 AM type of like. That's the contrast.
38:57
This year I was up until like 3:00 AM trying to get people to
39:01
be quiet in the whole. Way I attended your class at 10
39:04
AM the next morning, I think, or you were one of the first
39:07
classes. And that's another thing it's
39:09
like if anyone does go to these, and I always encourage people to
39:12
no matter what your fetish is, whatever it is, look it up, find
39:15
a convention that's for you and go.
39:17
Nothing is more normalizing, affirming than going to one of
39:20
these. But people are always asking me
39:21
how do I learn this? How do I learn that?
39:23
Go to these conventions and sign up for the classes.
39:26
Attend the classes. I feel like my pet peeve as both
39:29
a top and a bottom right now is I would say particularly
39:33
Spankos. But like in general, I would say
39:35
sometimes when you were in the scene for multiple years, you
39:38
kind of have this routine. When you get to parties or
39:41
events or whatever it is, you think you have a down pat and
39:45
you kind of lose that curiosity factor that you have when you
39:49
first come in, right? Like when I first came in, I was
39:52
curious about everything and I had a lot of questions and tried
39:55
to make it to everything that I could.
39:56
And then now it's like, OK, I know that I probably don't need
39:58
to attend an early bird orientation.
40:00
Like I feel pretty confident about that, right?
40:02
Or like I personally am not a huge fan of spanky Hawkins.
40:04
Like that was not my style. And so like I know that I can
40:07
dip out on that. I'm like, that's fine.
40:08
But the thing about the workshops and the demos is 1.
40:12
They're often different, right? Something about learning from
40:14
people score fetish, where that is their core fetish, where that
40:18
is really fascinating because it's things that we would never
40:21
think of because that's not our core fetish.
40:23
It might be something we're interested in, or it might be
40:25
like. An optional kink that we have
40:26
right where it's like, I don't need this fulfilled, but it'd be
40:29
fun to do it once or twice. I have this thing of like, I
40:33
talked to one guy who this was a couple years ago who was like,
40:37
there's not much to do during school at task.
40:40
And I was like, oh, there's actually a class going on.
40:42
Like you could go to the class. And he literally looked at me
40:44
down in the face and goes, I'm not here to learn.
40:45
And I literally audibly laughed out loud.
40:48
What are you here for? I mean, that's so seriously.
40:51
Because my thing is, it's like if you are coming into a space
40:53
where you are going to be incredibly vulnerable, you need
40:55
to be willing to be curious at the same time.
40:57
That's like my big rule. Lead with curiosity.
41:00
To go hand in hand and if you are not willing to do that, you
41:03
are not going to have as good of an experience I.
41:06
Agree with that zero argument. Very frustrated with people
41:09
about not going to workshops. Workshops and like educational
41:12
things I think have kind of become my small baby of parties
41:16
of trying to prioritize people go.
41:17
Yeah, yeah. When I go, I prioritize them.
41:19
And like, just for context, I was a professional Dom in a New
41:23
York City dungeon. People paid me to cane them and
41:25
I still showed up to a caning class at a party once.
41:28
Right, Because you never know what you're going to learn.
41:30
Also, I'm out of practice. I haven't caned anyone in a long
41:32
time. That's my other thing is I'm
41:34
like, I could go to Kelly's trapping class and also go to
41:36
Dave's trapping class and learn two different things.
41:38
And in reality, like my technique is smack in between
41:41
theirs because I learned from both of them.
41:44
Like I watched Dave, I experienced it.
41:45
I demo about him for Dave, so one of his classes some point at
41:48
task. And so it's like that was an
41:50
experience where I learned Dave has like a little, I don't know
41:53
if you've experienced this as the bottom or if you've seen him
41:55
do it, but he has this little like up and under motion that he
41:57
does. Multiple times I got no.
42:00
He has merely floored me. Yeah.
42:03
And it is so specifically Dave and I adore Yeah, like and it is
42:07
really, really interesting because that is something the
42:10
vast majority of tops when you are bent over do not do,
42:13
particularly with leather like that is.
42:15
It's also more difficult, like it's a hard motion to achieve
42:18
and Kelly is very adamant. She's like you do not need to
42:21
learn bent over unless you are planning to top in judicial, you
42:24
did racket sports as growing up or you are British because
42:28
Victoria is British and he learned to do everything bent
42:31
over. And also, it's kind of like the
42:33
way you said that, it reminds me of like, sometimes you go to a
42:35
gym and you workout with a personal trainer who looks at
42:37
your body, understands how it works, and says you need to be
42:39
doing this exercise this slightly different way because
42:41
of how you function. You could open up a whole new
42:44
world just by attending these classes.
42:45
Wait, I caught the sheet. So you gave a handout at your
42:48
class Vitamin C. What are those?
42:51
For niacinamide and vitamin C are both just incredibly useful
42:55
for a post party type things. Vitamin C is kind of the thing I
43:00
talked about for hyperpigmentation and also for
43:02
leather butt, which is just like it lightens.
43:05
The studies on collagen are a little bit tricky because we
43:08
don't really know like what is the best way to ingest collagen
43:11
and like have call it extra collagen in your system, but you
43:13
can produce more collagen through vitamin C.
43:15
So that is kind of why people have stuck with vitamin C
43:18
because it also helps produce collagen in addition to helping
43:22
brightening and lightening the skin around it.
43:25
So that's fun. The other thing is azelaic acid
43:27
is a really good exfoliant. OK, look this up.
43:29
So that is a little bit more heavy duty.
43:32
I would say it is kind of one of those things that people tend to
43:36
use post party with leather, but that I always say like that's
43:39
fine. Just make sure you use it like a
43:41
week after when your skin has kind of.
43:42
Healed a little. Filled out a little bit.
43:44
You don't need to exfoliate just after you've been weeping.
43:47
Your skin is not going to appreciate that.
43:49
And in reality, if you're like me or you where you're dealing
43:52
with some of that hyperpigmentation situation, I
43:54
see it a lot on people who are like ever so slightly melanated
43:57
and then all of a sudden they're like, why is my butt more
43:59
melanated than the rest of my body?
44:01
That's the situation. It's hyperpigmentation and if
44:03
you are irritating it more like it's just kind of turned darker
44:05
and darker. So wait a little bit and then
44:08
that's a good option. Niacinamide is a very similar to
44:13
hyaluronic acid. It's used in a lot of the Aveeno
44:16
Cetaphil. It helps reduce inflammation and
44:19
improve skin tone, helps with repair.
44:22
It is really helpful particularly with soothing some
44:25
of that like post play redness and like evening your skin out
44:28
overtime. So if you are dealing with
44:30
hyperpigmentation using that, it's a little bit gentler than
44:33
like azelaic acid and it can be in a cream or a lotion that you
44:36
put on and it's useful. Use it every day and it's great.
44:39
Flora, any parting words for our kingsters out there who have
44:42
never been to a party or anyone who is sort of who wants to get
44:47
into this and wants to make sure they're doing it right from the
44:49
start any. Advice honestly don't have much
44:52
advice other than show up and and be curious.
44:54
That's my whole thing going forward is just show up and be
44:57
curious. I love that that is so simple to
45:00
the point. King Consultants seal of
45:01
approval on that advice. That is solid.
45:03
Let's just all be a little more curious.
45:05
I feel like we'll all be better off in the community if we all
45:07
just make it simple. Keep it simple and.
45:10
Yeah. Well, like one of the things I
45:11
tell all my clients is lead with curiosity and gratitude.
45:14
Those are my two things. And I actually think that
45:16
applies to parties, to lead with curiosity when you go and
45:19
gratitude for the people who are giving up their time and energy
45:21
to make this a great experience. It runs on volunteers.
45:25
Oh my gosh, yeah. Oh, that's the other thing.
45:26
If you're going to an event, even if you're new volunteer, I
45:29
promise there is something that you can do as a newbie.
45:33
Oh yeah, the party run and you will be better off for it
45:36
because you will meet people. I have so many people who come
45:38
up to me halfway through the weekend and they're like, I have
45:40
a suggestion. I'm like, did you volunteer?
45:41
I would love to take your suggestion.
45:42
And also like I need you to also contribute to this because this
45:45
is a lot of work. Tons.
45:46
And it doesn't function without community that that is how all
45:49
of these events run. That's my advice.
45:51
Be curious and volunteer. Yes please on Jera Flora.
45:54
Thank you so much. If anyone wants to find Flora
45:57
you can find her on Fetlife at under score F1 Ora also the same
46:03
on X clips for sale. Do you want to say the number?
46:06
It is 163305. I film with Kelly through her
46:10
studio so all of my bottoming content is there and I suspect
46:15
topping content as at some point, but it is mostly
46:18
bottoming content for now so. Awesome.
46:20
OK, definitely go follow Flora in all of those different areas
46:24
and check out those videos because they are hot as fuck.
46:26
So thank you so much for coming on and sharing all of this
46:31
knowledge that you've built over a number of years.
46:33
Oh, thank you for having me and letting me share it.
46:35
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