Latest / The Spin Podcast / WFP Withdrawals, Events, Contracts | Tia-Clair Toomey | Late Stage CrossFit
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- 0:32Welcome to the spin. Tyler's on the wrong side, all
- 0:35right? When there's two of us, I feel
- 0:37like we don't have sides. That's fair.
- 0:40That's fair. John is on the way.
- 0:44Yeah. He's fixing baby duty.
- 0:46He, he dropped the ball, so he'll be here.
- 0:50But we just mixed around the, the order of the, the, the
- 0:54agenda tonight because you know, we'll talk about late stage
- 0:58CrossFit again. I think just like last week,
- 1:00this might be John's one to sit out and then Tyler and I will
- 1:06take care of this one. And then we'll we'll move some
- 1:08viewer comments, some good ones. Late stage WFP as well.
- 1:16I mean, we'll talk about that, about some fizzling out the West
- 1:20and P is silent, but the F is still alive and some blind
- 1:25rankings. Excited for that one.
- 1:28And maybe a little bit about what Tia's pregnancy means for
- 1:33CrossFit and maybe even world Fitness project.
- 1:38But we're going to start off talking about late stage
- 1:42CrossFit. Look Melanie Hodge, remember for
- 1:4823 months, 23 months. Impressive.
- 1:51Been waiting for Wednesday since the week started.
- 1:55Same. I think John's pink eye is
- 1:58better. Hope so Mana, it was rough end
- 2:04stage WFP. I'm sorry I got the stage wrong.
- 2:10CrossFit John should eat a Hot Chip for missing last week.
- 2:13I don't think anybody should be forced to eat a Hot Chip.
- 2:18I would do it. I wouldn't.
- 2:19I would eat the the Hot Chip so that John didn't have to.
- 2:24There's no way John would eat one.
- 2:26I bet 100%. No spray castle, Maybe you.
- 2:31Can I'd eat one? I I think Jason made that too.
- 2:37Like there's too much. I mean, I've had hot sauces
- 2:44before and you get to that one point where it's like, it's not
- 2:46even actually good. It's literally just the was a
- 2:49capsaicin. Yeah, that's what it is.
- 2:51And it's literally just like that oil just poured on chicken.
- 2:54And it's like, what's the point? Like why are we why are we even
- 2:57doing this? I.
- 2:57That's I've never understood hot like hot food people.
- 3:02I it's like there is a limit and till this does not add flavor
- 3:07anymore and then it's just like you're eating hot for hot sake
- 3:10and that's not fun, Yeah. It's yeah, there's a, there's a
- 3:16like, I don't mind getting a little sweaty and like a little
- 3:19heat, but I have to enjoy the flavor so.
- 3:23Funny, I have a funny Carolina Reaper story actually.
- 3:25So I had AI had a roommate Once Upon a time.
- 3:30He was a bartender and so it's like the house is always kind of
- 3:34wild, but he was a cook and he would make his own chilies and
- 3:38stuff or like his own hot sauces and different things like that.
- 3:42So anyway, one night he's like making his own sauce and I'm
- 3:46like, what's this? And I hold it up and he's like,
- 3:49oh, that's a dried sun dried tomato.
- 3:51I was like, I've never seen a sun dried tomato look like this.
- 3:54He goes try it. It's really good.
- 3:56I eat the whole thing. It was not a sun dried tomato.
- 3:59It was Carolina Reaper that was pretty bad.
- 4:05Yeah, I did. I did this the Blazing Challenge
- 4:08at B Dubs. I was on a work trip with the
- 4:10buddy and we decided to go there for dinner and we said let's go
- 4:15split a six, you know, 6 wings. I only ate two of them.
- 4:21I ate. It was one more than my buddy
- 4:26ate. So it's not worth it.
- 4:30All right, late stage CrossFit. So Tyler, do you know what late
- 4:36stage CrossFit is or should I ask Google Google AI for it?
- 4:44I would like to know what Google AI says about it.
- 4:46But I do know, you know, I know that Mason made the video.
- 4:52You mean late stage capitalism? Late stage capitalism.
- 4:55Yes. So this is something I actually
- 4:57like. When I saw the video, I thought
- 4:59I was going to watch it because like, I saw Marx and then I saw
- 5:03Late Stage. You were all about it.
- 5:05I was I. Hadn't even read CrossFit yet.
- 5:07And then I read CrossFit and I was like what?
- 5:10So light stage capitalism evident.
- 5:13Like if you believe Marx's ideology and really like I, I
- 5:19think there is a certain amount of trueness to this, is that
- 5:22capitalism is doomed to collapse at some point just through its
- 5:26own force. You grow, you grow, you grow,
- 5:27and then you can't grow anymore and you collapse.
- 5:29That's basically how the phenomenon works.
- 5:32You give all the money to the top, the top or the bottom can't
- 5:34support the top anymore and it tumbles over.
- 5:37That's the basic idea. That's the that's the theory.
- 5:40That's the theory. Yeah, Google AI.
- 5:43Google AI would say it's refers to the current globalized phase
- 5:48of capitalism, characterized by multinational corporations, high
- 5:51consumerism, and increasing wealth equity.
- 5:57It's used by critics critics to describe what they see as absurd
- 6:03and equitable features of the modern economy, rooted in
- 6:07Marxist theories suggesting capitalism's eventual collapse.
- 6:12And now it's widely used to critique specific modern
- 6:15economic phenomena like the 2008 financial crisis or the high
- 6:19cost of everyday goods and services.
- 6:22I don't want to get like off on this danger but it's always
- 6:25hilarious like when Marxist people want to critique like
- 6:292008 and it's like we don't live in 100% capitalistic society
- 6:32anymore. Like you critiquing capitalism
- 6:35on us is so stupid. But anyway.
- 6:39That's that's another podcast, that's all.
- 6:41Not even on this channel. Yeah.
- 6:44So, yeah, I saw it too. Mason Startup.
- 6:48Yeah, I was going to say Mason Startup put out the video.
- 6:51And he called it late stage CrossFit ISM.
- 6:59And it's like, oh, Mason's put out some good stuff before.
- 7:03Mason puts out some really good stuff.
- 7:05If you haven't gone to his channel, go to it.
- 7:07Mason's startup Startup Uncut. Yeah, he has.
- 7:10It's the second channel. I didn't even notice it was the
- 7:14second channel. He's so big.
- 7:15He has two channels. Yeah.
- 7:19That the kitchen is don't, don't pay attention to that.
- 7:22Pay attention to Mason there. And so I, I listen to this and I
- 7:30was like, I can get on board with a lot of it.
- 7:34It's I want to say, I want to preface, it's like 90% baked.
- 7:39It's a great video but I feel like if you have no idea what's
- 7:44going on like he it's when you're crying about the pain but
- 7:49you don't know where the source of the pain is.
- 7:52Yeah, and I, I mean, like, again, like late stage
- 7:56capitalism is the the, the end of capitalism, right?
- 8:00It's the fall. It's going to fall.
- 8:02So I mean, this is this is kind of like fancier lingo of
- 8:06CrossFit is dying or it's going to die.
- 8:08Like it hasn't. It's not.
- 8:10I guess I would say that the only difference is that like you
- 8:13keep kind of climbing and it's just going to topple over and
- 8:16like it's gone. There's no.
- 8:18Which everything else has been like, oh, it's been this long,
- 8:21slow five year death. This is like, oh, no,
- 8:23everything's fine. And then next, you know, we're
- 8:25going to wake up tomorrow and it's it's not around.
- 8:27So it's a little bit different, but it's the same type of thing.
- 8:29When you think about as you go through the points, he makes a
- 8:33valid point. So you can agree with a lot of
- 8:35what he says now overall arching like meaning behind it, maybe
- 8:40not. Right.
- 8:43Yeah. I think he like all of his
- 8:44points, his headline points and like his first statements on the
- 8:48points. Great.
- 8:49And then he gets into like, what, you know, sort of what he
- 8:51was thinking. I was like, wait, wait, wait,
- 8:52wait. Yeah, but.
- 8:54Anyway, yeah, so let's let's go through some of this and see
- 8:58what he has to say and then you guys can check out the full
- 9:01video on your own time. All right, let's let's see his
- 9:05intro here. We have officially reached late
- 9:08stage CrossFit. This is an idea that Karl Marx
- 9:10laid out in his 1848 book The CrossFit Manifesto.
- 9:14No, not really. The other day I heard someone
- 9:16talking about late stage capitalism, which I hadn't heard
- 9:19anybody talk about since college.
- 9:21Which? So he's, yeah, it wasn't
- 9:24technically a Marx. It was a different guy.
- 9:26And then there's a different guy that was like, it mentions it
- 9:31down here somewhere. Yeah, first used by economist
- 9:37Werner Sambart and then Ernest Mandel, Marxist theorist, then
- 9:42brought it back up and start making it more popular.
- 9:44So it's technically not Marx, but it gets the point across.
- 9:49Let's see. Why does it feel like Mason's in
- 9:53an RV kitchen? No, it's not an RV.
- 9:56Kitchen it feels like 1 though. No it does.
- 10:00They wouldn't have those blinds. I know.
- 10:04So all right, this. So he goes through 6 points and
- 10:13kind of talks about different pieces each one.
- 10:15The first one is the training methodology, right?
- 10:20And he brings up an interesting piece related to his own
- 10:24training. Here we go, Ross.
- 10:26Let's start off with the training of CrossFit or the
- 10:28methodology. So a while back I was going to
- 10:30do a workout that had 225 wall balls in it.
- 10:34Throughout the workout, at some point I had 225 wall balls in
- 10:36it. The owner of my gym came up to
- 10:38me and he goes, why are you doing a workout with 225 wall
- 10:41balls in it? You know you'll never see a
- 10:43workout with 225 wall balls in it.
- 10:45Insinuating as if the only reason I train is to get ready
- 10:49for other workouts or for competitions.
- 10:51We're at the point where training is so centered around
- 10:55around what already exists and what happens at competitions
- 10:59that the idea of doing something that somebody else doesn't do or
- 11:03you haven't seen before is like non existent in people's brains.
- 11:06Like training to just get better isn't a thing anymore that.
- 11:11Freaking just like head of the bat right on the ball.
- 11:16Just amazing contact on that one.
- 11:19Yeah, I mean, it's so true. I mean, if anybody's been around
- 11:24for 10 plus years, you know, you've just done workouts that
- 11:28were like, let's just do this. Yes, we once did, and we wrote
- 11:33our own Inception workout. So it's.
- 11:36Like you can never finish. You would say I can't remember
- 11:40it was. What's the wall ball workout,
- 11:42Karen? Yeah, you break, you fall into
- 11:47some other workout. You break, you fall into some
- 11:49other workout. You had to dig your way back
- 11:51out. We got like 45 minutes in and
- 11:53we're like, you want to just call it after, after this?
- 11:56Like there's so much stuff, but we used to have so much fun
- 11:59doing that. And this point has, there's like
- 12:045 different ideas that all spiral off of this point of I've
- 12:12been thinking about this idea that we're just doing Dave
- 12:15Castro's CrossFit now. Yes.
- 12:21That's all we're doing. We are playing the games.
- 12:25And it's sport based, even if it's not sport like training for
- 12:30the CrossFit Games, I would say 95% of what's out there is like
- 12:39cycle based, progression based, right?
- 12:43Like they're not throwing out things that you've not seen
- 12:45before, right? It's like, oh, we're going to do
- 12:48this six week cycle and then we're going to take AD load
- 12:50week. Like you talk about just being
- 12:57like the sport is different, but it's so highly like influenced
- 13:01what we do on a daily basis, right?
- 13:04There, there used to be this like adventure race or survivor
- 13:08quality feeling to CrossFit like you.
- 13:12It was the unknown and unknowable part was like a lot
- 13:15more real. And now you just walk in and
- 13:17you're like, OK, we're going to do, you know, 7 minutes on,
- 13:20three minutes off for five rounds.
- 13:22And you're going to, you know, you want to go to like 90%, but
- 13:25you don't want to go over that or you want to, you want to
- 13:27hover around 80% the whole time. Like there's not stuff that
- 13:31really makes you nervous anymore.
- 13:34Do you know if Rich still does his, like, walking to the gym
- 13:37and just, like, right on a whiteboard now?
- 13:40Yeah. And everybody just follows him,
- 13:41follows him around. I think they they put out some
- 13:45stuff if you watch Mayhem Mondays and stuff like that,
- 13:47they he still does some stuff like that where he's like, Nah,
- 13:50he'll erase something and then. He'll just write it down.
- 13:53I mean, that was my favorite things is like, you just would
- 13:55go in there. Yeah.
- 13:57Like, how are we feeling? All right, well, we went
- 13:59overhead yesterday. Let's not do overhead.
- 14:01Let's do this that let's let's just do a heavy friend squad.
- 14:04I don't know, right? Like there's no percentages.
- 14:06It was just making it up and that's how I started CrossFit.
- 14:09Yeah. Like we were just with some
- 14:11buddies and we showed up and then, you know, we figured out
- 14:16what we were going to do, what we haven't done in a while.
- 14:19And then next thing you know, we're doing that.
- 14:21And then it's like, oh, Outlaw Way is cool, let's do some
- 14:23Outlaw way and. To be able to during 2015 and 16
- 14:29years, I when like Jen Smith, would train for the games, I
- 14:34would just go in. I had some stuff that I would
- 14:37want to do, but then I would just say yes to whatever she
- 14:40wanted. To do, Is this before or after
- 14:41you made it clear that you wanted to qualify?
- 14:44For the gamer this is after but like her her do.
- 14:48People know that story. Did I tell that on here?
- 14:51I. Don't remember.
- 14:53Oh, I think I said it in the comments somewhere, but I'll
- 14:57tell it here is that I didn't want to sign up for the open
- 15:01because I was like, I'm going to go to the games and I want to be
- 15:05like this complete unknown when I show up and everybody's like,
- 15:08wow, I said that in 2013, I think, and Jen Smith like just
- 15:12laughed at me and and I was super.
- 15:16Embarrassed. Fly under the radar, man.
- 15:18Get one year of training in you and you're going to be games
- 15:20bound. Yeah, I was like, I'm going to
- 15:21games for sure, dude. Anyway, so when we started, when
- 15:26she started training for the games or it was like after
- 15:28regionals or whatever, I would just say yes to everything she
- 15:30did. I don't think a lot of people
- 15:33just do that anymore where they just like you go in and people
- 15:36are like, ah, we're kind of like I'm doing this.
- 15:38I'm following Misfit or I'm following training think tank or
- 15:42I'm following. I like that piece.
- 15:43Like lights all just do that one.
- 15:45They get freaked out about like, oh, I got to do, I got to stay
- 15:48on my program. It's like fuck all that dude.
- 15:51You just work out with people. I think Colton might be the only
- 15:54one that I know of that does that.
- 15:56Like, he'll see something. He'll he'll just do a workout
- 15:59like the the show to prove a point, like, oh, I could beat
- 16:01that. Yeah.
- 16:02And he does it right. Yeah.
- 16:06But I don't think many people do, even down to my level, where
- 16:11it's like, who cares if you take a day and go do something
- 16:15different? Like you're still getting more
- 16:17fit than you were the day before.
- 16:18But if it doesn't fit into your the programming you're
- 16:21following. Oh, I don't know.
- 16:22I don't know if I can do that. That's the funny, that's the fun
- 16:25thing about not having like the this quarterfinals, like high
- 16:29end quarterfinals goal or whatever anymore.
- 16:31Like there's a girl who is trying to be competitive at my
- 16:35gym and she'll be like, do you want to do this with me?
- 16:37She'll mess with me or, or I'll just show up and she'll be like,
- 16:40do you want to do this? And I'll be like, Yep, like
- 16:42let's do it because it's just nice to just like do shit with
- 16:45other people. And people get so bent out of
- 16:48shape about that. Now they just won't, they won't
- 16:51do that. It's like, get over yourself.
- 16:54Yep, let's see. Oh, wait, I had one more point I
- 16:57wanted to make about it. So I I was thinking about and he
- 17:03sort of makes a point on this later, but this kind of segues
- 17:06into it. He made a point about hybrid
- 17:10athletes. And like how, how is no one
- 17:15talking about the fact that hybrid is just CrossFit?
- 17:18It's just like a certain, the certain skills and it's none of
- 17:24the like 12 to 15 minute like really, really hurt stuff.
- 17:30It's like either I'm going to run Sprint or long distance and
- 17:34I'm going to lift heavy and that's all I'm going to do.
- 17:36Like it's not it's not any of the crossfitty shit.
- 17:39So to me it's none of the Dave Castro fitness stuff.
- 17:47Yes, Hiller kind of said it in the last five videos.
- 17:52Yeah, No, I agree with that. I mean, it's, I think we kind of
- 17:57keep saying Hyrox is CrossFit, right.
- 17:59So like it is just a, it's just a high, it's just a CrossFit
- 18:02workout. So to some degree, well, that's
- 18:06the point. Yeah, go ahead.
- 18:08No, like go ahead. Well, so why is Hyrox coming up?
- 18:13Why is hybrid coming up? Why is ethics a thing now is cuz
- 18:20like I think that people don't really want to hurt in that, you
- 18:24know, 8 to 15 minute time domain and they're like, yeah, well, so
- 18:29fuck CrossFit. We'll just make up our own shit
- 18:30that we want to do. Burn boot camp it for 60
- 18:33minutes. It's this.
- 18:34And like CrossFit never realizes, it's like we have to
- 18:38evolve. We have to capture that somehow.
- 18:40I'm not saying you have to change the methodology because
- 18:43Hybrid is encapsulated within CrossFit, Hyrox is encapsulated
- 18:47within CrossFit. But we're not capturing those
- 18:50people and they're leaving and going off and doing their other,
- 18:52their own other thing. Yeah.
- 18:54And so we've not evolved. Yeah.
- 18:59All right. Second up the he talks about
- 19:02games, athletes and this one, it ties into what we just mentioned
- 19:10about not wanting to stray from your current programming, but
- 19:17it's also a little bit with social media.
- 19:20For a while now we've got the athletes and when I say
- 19:23athletes, I'm talking about the CrossFit Games athletes.
- 19:25Everything they post is ads and this social media.
- 19:30Everything is an ad. I dare you to go to any of the
- 19:35CrossFit Games athletes other than Ibarra.
- 19:38Didn't we do this? I did it.
- 19:41Yeah. I think it went through.
- 19:42I mean, like, Dallin, Jason, Brooke, Danielle, all the big
- 19:49ones. It's either blatant eye
- 19:52advertising or they're tagging their sponsor.
- 19:57Like, just like, yeah, if you read this caption, you get down
- 20:02far enough, you're going to see that I thank my sponsor for.
- 20:05I couldn't do this without my shoes or I couldn't do this with
- 20:07my protein powder. Is that an ad or is that just an
- 20:11opportunity to tag your sponsor? I think it counts towards their
- 20:15whatever commitments they have in there.
- 20:20We won't get into the minutia, but I think you could like start
- 20:22off with the posters. Like I just want to post this
- 20:24and you're like well I am wearing gym reapers in this so
- 20:28I'll tag gym reapers, you know what I mean?
- 20:30It's not even tagging like to put it in there like a lot of
- 20:33times as you see with like nutrition.
- 20:35The nutrition, yeah, they like they talk about how they're fuel
- 20:38their body and how they do all this.
- 20:40And I couldn't have done it without CBG nutrition or I
- 20:42couldn't do it with RP strength. Like, it's clearly an ad that's,
- 20:48you know, supposed to be more organic than just do this.
- 20:55Let's see. Keep going.
- 20:56Yeah, as well. Not even just a progression with
- 20:58CrossFit. When I was on Instagram in like
- 21:002019, a lot of the stuff I saw was like, oh, this is a banger.
- 21:04Oh, this is a banger. And now I get on and I'm like,
- 21:06OK, another sponsor post, another sponsor post, another
- 21:08sponsor post, another sponsor again.
- 21:10I think it was just kind of a natural progression.
- 21:12CrossFit athletes at the Games who are competing, we're all
- 21:15just kind of weekend warriors. Yeah, they, he he said that they
- 21:23feel like royalty now. I'm yeah, that is that comes up
- 21:28here in a bit. OK, did you want to make a
- 21:31point? No, I mean, he started yeah, he
- 21:35starts going into like when he when he saw the ranch athletes
- 21:40are it's changed, right. So like, back then, it was they
- 21:45had jobs, they were just the fittest of us.
- 21:48And then they started doing a little bit more full time, you
- 21:52know, a little bit more and a little bit more.
- 21:53And then somebody became full time.
- 21:55I think he said Rich might have been the first one to go at
- 21:58least publicly full time. Like, I only train.
- 22:01And then everybody else had to follow suit.
- 22:03Otherwise they couldn't compete. And so they had to make money
- 22:08somehow. And of course, now, you see, I
- 22:11mean, that's what they basically become influencers to make to
- 22:14cover their bills. Yeah.
- 22:17And it's like, it sucks because it's like there, there's, it is
- 22:22an obvious progression, like it's going to happen.
- 22:25If there's money in the sport, they're going to, you know, and
- 22:29people start getting paid and then, well, they kind of start
- 22:32working for, you know, doing that.
- 22:35And it's just like it's continues to build on itself.
- 22:38I I don't want to fault them for it, but I wish there was some
- 22:42way to like, I remember when Rich, when I found out that Rich
- 22:46won the Games, it was like right when I started CrossFit and my
- 22:50football coach was like, he was the guy I started CrossFit with.
- 22:53He was like, yeah, there's a dude, the fittest guy on earth
- 22:56is from Tennessee. I was like, what?
- 22:58And it made him feel really like normal.
- 23:04He's like, Oh yes, like he's an hour down the road.
- 23:07And I was like, so I was like, I was just some fucking Hick from
- 23:10Tennessee one. And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 23:13And so it's like, there's none of that now where they do feel a
- 23:16little bit out of reach. And I wish there was some way to
- 23:19like lower that. Yeah, I mean, this point about
- 23:22the the social media posts are all ads and they're not.
- 23:25Look at this cool workout one, it's now secret because you
- 23:28don't want to give away what you're doing 2 It doesn't matter
- 23:31if you post it because nobody's going to do it, right?
- 23:36You just post a random workout like, oh man, this one's a great
- 23:38one. Nobody does it because it
- 23:40doesn't fit their whatever part of their cycle they're.
- 23:43In when Hefner would do those, he still does them.
- 23:47Those crazy emails. But it's part of his
- 23:48programming. Like you can, you can buy his
- 23:50program. The was it morning mono or
- 23:52something? Yeah.
- 23:55And yeah, like people used to try those.
- 23:57I don't think anybody just jumps in and does it very often.
- 24:00No. Let's see.
- 24:04Let's see. Jumping ahead, this one's pretty
- 24:07applicable. Just CrossFit.
- 24:10OK, this next one I'm definitely picking on the athletes.
- 24:12Part of what we've gotten into is athletes just take whatever
- 24:16piece of the CrossFit pie they can take and dip out.
- 24:19And I actually don't know that this is late stage because I
- 24:21feel like it happened early on too with guys like Marcus Philly
- 24:25who just kind of like dipped out and then he was like, oh, I
- 24:27don't do CrossFit. I just do this kind of a little
- 24:30bit CrossFit. I I think Marcus Philly maybe
- 24:32wasn't that bad because I don't I don't know that he ever like
- 24:34denounced CrossFit. That's just an example though.
- 24:36This happens all the time. I'm sure you guys can think of
- 24:39some other examples that is kind of the late stage CrossFit.
- 24:41CrossFit exists as this huge thing and then everybody's like,
- 24:45oh, I'm just going to take a whatever piece of this pie I can
- 24:47get and dip out. And a lot of that happens with
- 24:50athletes. Another example I think would
- 24:52be, and I know they have their reasons, but some of the people
- 24:54who kind of like dipped out on CrossFit over the last few
- 24:57years. It's like dude, the only reason
- 24:59you're anything is because of CrossFit and not.
- 25:11I think about what's her, what's the the blonde girl?
- 25:19Amanda Barnhart and the other one.
- 25:21What's the other one? Jessica Griffith.
- 25:23Jessica Griffith. Or whatever.
- 25:25I don't know what her married name is now, but yeah.
- 25:27I can't remember either but K Hoy.
- 25:31Kahoi. Kahoi.
- 25:33Yeah, she that there's that whole thing where they're like,
- 25:38I like all of CrossFit except for these things.
- 25:41I'm going to carve that out. You know, Jessica's still doing
- 25:46CrossFit. It's just like she's moderating
- 25:48the intensity because she didn't think it was doable.
- 25:52And I ain't even. And she's running well, she's
- 25:53running away from the term CrossFit on top of it and making
- 25:57it well, sound like, oh, you've done CrossFit, it's bad.
- 26:00This will fix you, right? Yeah.
- 26:03And it's like the thing that I think a lot of the pro athletes
- 26:07or previous pro athletes don't realize is like, you were never
- 26:11meant to go with that intensity for that long, that many times a
- 26:14day. At that, yeah, I mean it.
- 26:17What they were doing is not what you go to in your class.
- 26:22And not expect like some amount of burnout and like, I'm pretty
- 26:28sure she was a hyper fit athlete.
- 26:32And let me just say, those workouts were absolutely
- 26:35asinine. Was she?
- 26:37Yeah, I'm. Fairly certain.
- 26:41OK. Because that was where Julie
- 26:43Fouche was, right? That's where she was working
- 26:45with, Yeah. She was the hyperfit workouts.
- 26:49It was so much volume all the time.
- 26:52And so anyway, even if she wasn't.
- 26:54Yeah, yeah, Mason. Mason's watching, mate.
- 26:57Mason's watching us watch him, but it's still CrossFit.
- 27:00It is CrossFit. Just own up that it's a version
- 27:04of CrossFit. Yeah, right.
- 27:08And I think that's that's where it it it comes down to the
- 27:10difference, right? Like Rich Froning will say I'm
- 27:14doing if you sign up for Mayhem, you're doing CrossFit.
- 27:18Not I got beat up by CrossFit. Here, come do lit.
- 27:22No, no. That you have to be blindly
- 27:27loyal, But they come in, they get hugely like famous Instagram
- 27:31followers, super fit, obviously off of the training.
- 27:34They're just drifting off of everything in CrossFit and then
- 27:36leave, which is kind of my Third Point.
- 27:38And that is I think some of the athletes feel like they're not a
- 27:41part of the community. They feel like the community
- 27:43cheers for them. And I can't think of a specific
- 27:46example, but some of them talk like I'm a separate part of the
- 27:50community. And I may be wrong about this,
- 27:51but early on it kind of felt like the CrossFit Games athletes
- 27:54were kind of just like the best of us.
- 27:57Now it almost feels like they almost feel like royalty.
- 28:00Like. There it is 4 athletes by
- 28:05athletes by athletes, 4 athletes, whatever it is.
- 28:10What's really different now versus then like you're here for
- 28:16us, What is creating that feeling?
- 28:21Because like the professional is the the, the desire or the
- 28:24feeling that it's the professionalization of the
- 28:26sport. In 2011, it wasn't a sport.
- 28:39Nobody who said, hey, this is the sport.
- 28:41These guys are professional athletes.
- 28:45It was these are the best cross fitters around the world.
- 28:49And now they're going to Carson to show that they're the fittest
- 28:52athletes. Now it's I need a big prize
- 28:56purse. I need guaranteed contracts.
- 29:00I, I, I need sponsors. Like if I don't go to these
- 29:04competitions, they're not going to sell tickets.
- 29:08Like people want to come watch us.
- 29:13It's so different than back then.
- 29:15Like in 2011, regionals were not broadcast.
- 29:23What? What year 2011?
- 29:26Yeah, 2012. So I actually, I don't think
- 29:29regionals were were like broadcast until 20/13/12 or 13.
- 29:33Yeah. I, I went and looked for because
- 29:36Crossfat brought up the fact that I guess Wellborn
- 29:39commentated one of the regionals.
- 29:42It was, it was Socal, but it was one of the years and, and so I
- 29:47went looking for it. There are no broadcasts that
- 29:49exist of 2012 and prior. So it had to have been like, if
- 29:54they did do it, they've been ripped off the Internet or it's
- 29:562013, it starts. But yeah, it there was no.
- 30:01I think I've said this, I remember being on Twitter and
- 30:05they had a a Twitter account for every regional and somebody
- 30:11would live tweet the competition, like and when like
- 30:17and when Spieler came by play. Yeah, yeah.
- 30:21And when Spieler came back in 2012, it was amazing.
- 30:26Let me see if I can. I wanted to bring this up about
- 30:33from tacit entitlement has grown with the ascension of social
- 30:36media. I can't help but like, but think
- 30:41that that has added to to all of it.
- 30:48But it's weird because like my distance from the athletes is
- 30:51the smaller now than it ever was, but I do feel like that's
- 30:54still there. Like they're super.
- 30:57I can get in touch with them a lot of a lot of them now.
- 30:59And I couldn't. I remember being on the floor of
- 31:04the Central East Regional in 2014 and looking at Rich like he
- 31:07was a superhuman God and I would never know him, never talk to
- 31:10him. And it's like he still felt more
- 31:12approachable then than he does now.
- 31:18Yeah, so you're 2018. They were still doing it like
- 31:25Womack. The first, first, the second
- 31:28round of thrusters, followed by Bullock and Tatya finishes 12th
- 31:32Thrusters first is back to the rope.
- 31:35Whose? Job was this.
- 31:38Like I remember watching this when Spieler was coming back in
- 31:43the like on Sunday and like, you were glued to Twitter,
- 31:49refreshing constantly, just trying to understand who's going
- 31:52to make it. Is Spieler going to qualify for
- 31:53the games again? Like that's how you followed it.
- 31:59That's insane. I would hate that job.
- 32:02I just look at that and I'm like, no way.
- 32:04Think about how different that was compared to now.
- 32:15But yeah, I mean, it's so we isn't it funny how we assume
- 32:20that a broadcast is mandatory now?
- 32:23It's required. It has to be professional, has
- 32:26to be high quality. Otherwise, it's just you know.
- 32:31But the problem is that's how high the watermark went.
- 32:37And now that the watermark has went that high, if you if it, if
- 32:40it doesn't hit that, now all you see is like recession and like
- 32:46you're, you're super bummed out and, and like, I'm super guilty
- 32:48about that. Amy or not Amy Lucy Campbell had
- 32:55a story on her channel today and it was like the rise and fall
- 32:59CrossFit. And like the video was actually
- 33:01pretty good. Like the only reason did I
- 33:05freeze. You were choppy but but now
- 33:09you're fine. The only reason that like high
- 33:13rocks and ethics and all this other stuff exists is because of
- 33:16CrossFit. But I was telling Lucy that I
- 33:19don't like that the rise and fall conversation keeps
- 33:22happening. And and that sucks.
- 33:26Like, no matter what happens, like I feel like we need to have
- 33:29broadcast because it's like if we give up that, it's like we've
- 33:34given up too much ground. Yes, but I don't think
- 33:41everything has to be broadcast and it doesn't have to be like
- 33:44this huge grand production. Would it be great?
- 33:46For sure. But unfortunately we can't go
- 33:49back to that. So, like, I think if you want,
- 33:53again, I think the broadcast helps with growing CrossFit,
- 33:59whether you call it the CrossFit Games or just even the affiliate
- 34:02side, like I think that does help.
- 34:08But it can't be at such a loss where you're just dumping
- 34:11millions of dollars into it just for the sake of doing it.
- 34:16Yeah, right. And things have gotten so much
- 34:19cheaper and easier to do. Like we should find ways to do
- 34:21this. Well, there are cheaper ways to
- 34:23do it, but I disagree to A to a certain extent.
- 34:27Where I do think it should be subsidized, I've always.
- 34:32Thought to some, to some degree. To some degree, yes, but they
- 34:34shouldn't. I don't think CrossFit needs to
- 34:36go to Brazil and spend however, you know, however many hundreds
- 34:40of thousands of dollars to run that regional like they were
- 34:43back in the day, which is really what kind of, I mean, that's
- 34:47what Greg, that's when he ripped the Band-Aid off.
- 34:49He's like, why am I spending hundreds of thousands of dollars
- 34:52to go run these regional competitions in Brazil?
- 34:56The problem, I think that that was, and I don't know the
- 35:00sustainability. I've heard, you know, that the
- 35:03books looked crazy and it was utterly unsustainable.
- 35:06But this is another one I've wanted to write an article on.
- 35:11But you really can't because like, so the only thing that
- 35:16matters in business is accounts receivable.
- 35:19If you want to grow a business, you have to have an accounts
- 35:21receivable. You have to have.
- 35:23People paying you. People paying you and what
- 35:26regionals did was create an accounts receivable situation
- 35:29for the entire community and then you took it away.
- 35:34And what we've been doing for the past, what, 6-7 years now is
- 35:39hoping that that would come back and using every situation that
- 35:42we get to pretend that it's coming back.
- 35:44And it's like what we needed was like, that's what CrossFit did.
- 35:47Was it, it laid the base for the ecosystem to to live on top of
- 35:52it? Was it doing it too heavy?
- 35:54Maybe I'd have that argument. But like, I think that it should
- 35:57probably have a bigger hand in it than it does right now.
- 36:01Yes, yeah, I don't. I would agree that ripping it
- 36:05out down to nothing was the wrong move.
- 36:09Such a bad move. Anyway, sorry.
- 36:12All right, Next up, let's see this one.
- 36:16CrossFit Games. You'll like this one, Tyler.
- 36:20Me too. Us being in late stage CrossFit
- 36:23with the Games, the programming is just so old and worn out.
- 36:28It feels like Dave just programs different versions of the same
- 36:30workouts every year. It just kind of, it doesn't have
- 36:33that oomph it used to. I think we all feel that.
- 36:36I think part of it is the Lazar thing.
- 36:38It kind of lost its vibe a little bit.
- 36:42We're doing what Dave Castro's CrossFit is.
- 36:45Dave Castro's CrossFit and don't like, don't get me wrong here, I
- 36:49like some of Dave's version of CrossFit.
- 36:52But what was Mason talking about earlier with like, you know,
- 36:58those wall balls and all that stuff.
- 37:00Like what we like is the the unknown and the unknowable part,
- 37:03the things that are like, what's new?
- 37:06And like if we just go inside and start doing those things,
- 37:11it's just reaffirming that we're training to train again.
- 37:14And that's so. Stupid.
- 37:15I mean, it's yeah, I mean, that's a better way of saying
- 37:19that going inside and doing only indoor CrossFit is for the Games
- 37:24is boring. And I don't.
- 37:31Yeah, it's cool that you do thrusters fast, but it's not the
- 37:34same as doing CrossFit better than other people.
- 37:39There's a difference there. This this kind of comment will
- 37:42get you blocked. It's such.
- 37:45Emmanuel Abbasa, It doesn't matter how many Subs he has.
- 37:50If you're saying something good, why would you not?
- 37:52He also number 1, he has way more Subs on his actual channel.
- 37:55This is the second channel. If you'd watch earlier you would
- 37:58understand that and #2 it's good content.
- 38:01I agree Emmanuel, and he's a cool fucking dude.
- 38:04So get out of here, Emmanuel. He has 2000 views to 2100 views
- 38:09on 258 subscribers so. Pretty freaking good.
- 38:13It's a pretty good ratio. I know other channels that have
- 38:1730,000 plus they can't break 1000.
- 38:19So there's the difference. Let's see.
- 38:24Yeah, we'll keep going. Part of that is kind of stuff
- 38:28going on with like HQ. One of the things I've noticed
- 38:31with the CrossFit Games is sponsors come in and then they
- 38:33just leave like right after. If you see other sports, they'll
- 38:37have these long standing sponsors that are years and
- 38:40years and years and I know we're a new sport, so it's probably
- 38:42not going to be the same. Crossfitters are so loyal and so
- 38:45gung ho about stuff that sponsors will come in.
- 38:48They immediately went over like all Crossfitters, and then they
- 38:51know that if they leave and don't sponsor anymore, us
- 38:53Crossfitters are still going to buy from them.
- 38:56Mostly, yeah. If they still sold the four, I'd
- 39:01be buying the four. The Reebok 4.
- 39:05Oh yeah, the Nano 4 is the best shoe of all time.
- 39:07I. Think I started with the five.
- 39:11That point about the sponsorship isn't 100% correct.
- 39:14What what's wrong with it? I think the so Reebok came in 10
- 39:22year contract right? And then they kind of, Oh yeah,
- 39:28CrossFit still made the shoe even though they can't to boot.
- 39:32They can't call. They can't what?
- 39:36They can't call it CrossFit, right?
- 39:38They don't. The sponsors will still buy it.
- 39:39Now the one counter to Mason is Noble came in, they left and I
- 39:48don't think many people stuck around with them.
- 39:50Nobody jumped onto the Go Ruck train, nobody jumped onto the
- 39:55Northern Spirit train, Vilitas. I can't imagine anybody's buying
- 39:59Vilitas jump ropes now after they they sponsored the games.
- 40:05And they ruined Colton's event. Colton chose a Vilita's jump
- 40:12rope. I will withhold judgement, but
- 40:15that's on him. I was thinking about this.
- 40:19So why doesn't if I were, if I were in the partnerships
- 40:26department at HQ, I'd be like mandatory our next partner has
- 40:31to be like a five year partner. I think that the the value only
- 40:37starts to get to the point where you're going to recoup at that
- 40:40five year mark or the three three to five year mark, right.
- 40:45But there's a name on there. But there's a but this throw it.
- 40:47Well, yeah. But think about what Reebok did.
- 40:50They changed it the trajectory dramatically, yes, Go Rec didn't
- 40:56change anything. They just put grow go Rec on
- 40:59there. They weren't even the Go Rec
- 41:00CrossFit Games. It was just.
- 41:02They were just no Reebok. Reebok became synonymous.
- 41:05Yes. So don't you think that a brand
- 41:07that comes in has to? Pony up big.
- 41:11Make it big. Right now, it's just like, hey,
- 41:13here's enough to run the games. To make a splash like this is
- 41:17going to, it has to change if you want to call it the sport,
- 41:21but it has to change the CrossFit Games in a meaningful
- 41:25way. Whether that's a bigger prize
- 41:27purse, subsidizing more of the live streams, going to a bigger
- 41:32venue, something that actually makes a a meaningful change to
- 41:35make that like, oh, that the community sees and respects it
- 41:41versus just being like, oh, I'm a sponsor.
- 41:43So both Steve, Steven and Jonathan, also Jonathan, are you
- 41:48my Jonathan Hall? They both make the same point,
- 41:53which is wouldn't have a sponsor if they mandated three to five
- 41:57years. Does that prove Mason's point
- 42:02that we're at late stage CrossFit?
- 42:05No. Do you think they just saw that?
- 42:08Like after Reebok? After what, 2017?
- 42:13Sorry, I keep going. After 20 After 2018 games.
- 42:16Well, 2014 was the high that the high watermark.
- 42:22No, that was that was the fastest acceleration.
- 42:25I would say 15161718 it was still growing and going the
- 42:30right way. And then the fall of 2018 when
- 42:33he when all social media got cut off and media department was
- 42:38fired, that's when it just but I think they were still growing
- 42:41through 20. 18 But it was like it was like this in 2012 and
- 42:45then like 2018 is probably like slightly positive but not it
- 42:50was, it was like maybe five, 1015% not 80. 90% I just wonder
- 42:59if like again the sponsors like Reebok was a non CrossFit brand
- 43:07that came in and one over cross fitters.
- 43:14Do you need a different brain outside of the CrossFit sphere
- 43:21to do it Or I'm just trying to think like why would valet does
- 43:27not get any bump? I'm assuming they didn't get a
- 43:31bump, meaningful bump from sponsoring.
- 43:34Northern Spirit did not, or not enough to say I'm going to stick
- 43:38with it for a second year. When I saw those products, the
- 43:48Leetes never really gave a shot. Noble.
- 43:51Noble shoes are ass. They're terrible shoes, right?
- 43:55Noble. Actually Noble's a bad example
- 43:57because they did feel kind of part of the sport for a minute.
- 44:02Like they weren't as big as Reebok, but they felt a lot
- 44:05more. Like they were, yeah, they were
- 44:07coming in. And I mean.
- 44:10Go ruck I felt bad about because their their products were good
- 44:14like we'd besides the shoes, the shoes are terrible, but like the
- 44:20their other products are good products and I and so I felt bad
- 44:22that they didn't grow, but they did just feel like a sponsor as
- 44:26opposed to what you were saying about Reebok where you're like a
- 44:28true partner. You believe in us as this in a
- 44:30sport as a methodology. You are ingrained in our
- 44:33society. There has not been another one
- 44:35of those since Reebok Noble. Kind of like almost was there
- 44:42but then pulled out. Well, they they ruined it by
- 44:45going all different directions and wanting to get bigger and go
- 44:47into the NFLPGA and not just focus on innovating within the
- 44:52CrossFit sector. I thought they could become
- 44:54bigger and better than that and not really sure that's true.
- 45:02Jonathan, I wonder if brands like Tier and Nike made it
- 45:05evident that you can obtain significant purchasing CrossFit
- 45:08without the risk to goodwill for a title sponsor?
- 45:16Yes. Nike, yes, tier.
- 45:20I mean, I don't know how much they did, but I mean they were
- 45:22synonymous with Tierra. Watapalooza Tier did a very good
- 45:26job at that. You know, though, I you don't
- 45:29see, you don't see a crazy amount of their shoes, you don't
- 45:33see a crazy amount of their, I think you probably see more of
- 45:36their apparel than you do of their shoes.
- 45:39And they sponsored every athlete for a minute.
- 45:43They came in for a while. I mean, they came in hot and
- 45:45sponsored everybody for. Sure, it was crazy, like you
- 45:47couldn't throw a throw a rock and not hit a tier athlete.
- 45:50I would say out of the 80 athletes on the from the games,
- 45:52I would say 60 were wearing tier shoes, 50. 60 tiers mid.
- 45:58To be honest, yeah, I've never, I've never tried on their shoes,
- 46:01so I won't speak about them, but.
- 46:04I have quite a few pair. But I don't see it, like when I
- 46:07go to into gyms, I don't see tear shoes.
- 46:09They're like, they stand out in my brain a lot, guys.
- 46:16We don't know what's. You know how to get in the back
- 46:18now. You don't don't need a link now
- 46:19anymore. This is a.
- 46:23But anyway, I, I wish we could get to that point again where
- 46:26it's like, I, I still think the brand is valuable enough to have
- 46:32a 510 year. Like there's, there's so many,
- 46:35there's, there's like 4 things that are so fixable tomorrow
- 46:38that you could get it back to 18 level I think.
- 46:43Yeah, I I just, I mean, I go back to coffee pods and wads
- 46:47around the whiteboard. One of the early shows that I
- 46:49did with I think it might have been Hiller and Seth Page.
- 46:54And it was like what outside brand and, and Seth came up with
- 46:57an idea of like going to Chase credit card and like having them
- 47:02come in and like provide things special for CrossFit, CrossFit
- 47:06affiliates. Like, you know, if they came in
- 47:09to help with financing for gyms or something like doing
- 47:12something like that would be huge.
- 47:14I think that's where, again, if you're going to be a partner,
- 47:17that's where you need to, to move to.
- 47:19If we if we could get to that point, let's see 7 Is Johnny
- 47:30going to show up or? No, he's he's, he's he.
- 47:33Called it. He's going to every like 10.
- 47:35Minutes 740. 750 Jeez. Such good docking people.
- 47:41The next part is the media. The CrossFit Games media itself,
- 47:44and also kind of like the outside media, CrossFit ads and
- 47:48CrossFit ad campaign going on right now is basically just
- 47:52rerun of kind of the old stuff. The road to the Games is just
- 47:55kind of like a rerun of the old stuff.
- 47:57It feels like there's no real kind of authenticity to it.
- 48:01And I don't know if that's a problem, but like, I watched the
- 48:04Road to the Games this year and it was like all about the like
- 48:07games, athletes, dogs. Boy, he just like if you're on
- 48:12cross with media team right now, Mason.
- 48:15Just. Like stabbed you like 6 times.
- 48:18There's something true about what he's saying about the new
- 48:21the new ad campaign. It's like it, it's cool.
- 48:25It's it, it felt like it was a breath of fresh air because it's
- 48:30like, OK, this, this is like the road that we want to go down,
- 48:34right? But it's like you just turned on
- 48:36the road. We need more out in front.
- 48:39We need more road. And it's like, so it was like,
- 48:43come on, continue to make more stuff like this.
- 48:46It it feels like a campaign. I think the difference between
- 48:50now and what we saw years ago is that it wasn't this like
- 48:54scheduled campaign, like we're going to launch next week.
- 48:58It was like we created something cool.
- 49:00Let's just. Put it out, dude.
- 49:02Put it out there. Yeah.
- 49:03And we're not going to wait to put out another one.
- 49:05If we get another piece that comes in, we're putting it out
- 49:08there, right? And we're just going to continue
- 49:11to just flood with stuff, right? Yeah.
- 49:14And it's the same thing as the partner or the yeah, the
- 49:19sponsorships and the partnerships.
- 49:20They feel like a a sponsorship and a partnership.
- 49:23Hey, buy this thing because they're involved with us.
- 49:25Not hey, Reebok is like, they just want to sponsor everything
- 49:30because we're fucking. Cool.
- 49:31Reebok's starting to have its own gym.
- 49:32How freaking cool is that? Yeah, right.
- 49:35And they showed the the Reebok CEO going down there and, and
- 49:39working out next to, you know, the analysts who just joined.
- 49:45The new ad campaign blows. Yeah, the this is elite fitness.
- 49:51I did, I talk about this on the last show.
- 49:53They had a, they had a video I think of some lady, old, older
- 49:56woman and it's cool, she's doing CrossFit.
- 49:58But they say this is elite fitness.
- 50:00It's not elite fitness. It's a it's training towards
- 50:04elite fitness, but it was not elite fitness.
- 50:06Itself. And you putting out a statement
- 50:09that is just like, this is elite fitness.
- 50:12It wasn't elite fitness. And so it's like, you know, it's
- 50:16like that is this, is this the cup?
- 50:19Is this the cup? That's they're all cups.
- 50:22It, it makes things meaningless when you do that.
- 50:25And so he's right, like Mason's right.
- 50:29You got to start getting us. And then the games, the games
- 50:33docs. The road to the games, I would
- 50:35even. I'll take it beyond that.
- 50:37Like even, I mean, I can do start my smear campaign, but
- 50:41like one of the things that was bragged about with World Fitness
- 50:45Project was that they were going to do different media.
- 50:48We're going to make it different.
- 50:49We're going to really do stuff that's like outside the box and
- 50:52make it so that people care about the athletes and
- 50:54everything else. What's different?
- 51:02OK, there's nothing that's oh, wow, it's interesting.
- 51:06I mean, you hired the buttery Bros, you've hired other people
- 51:09that have done the same stuff. It doesn't matter.
- 51:13Let's see. John is.
- 51:16It's never going to show up. It's unfortunate.
- 51:21Let's see HQ. 60,000 views per video.
- 51:25Next up, we got CrossFit HQ and I think this is probably one of
- 51:28the biggest indicators that we're in late stage CrossFit and
- 51:31that is the company is being traded like a stock between
- 51:34private equity companies. Somebody bought it not with the
- 51:37intention of making it better and making money off of it, but
- 51:39they bought it with the intention.
- 51:41First of all, I can't believe you pulled up a morning chalk up
- 51:45a search, but. Anyway, then repackaging it and
- 51:49reselling it to another private equity company doesn't seem to
- 51:52be sustainable business model aside from people trading it as
- 51:56a commodity. And that doesn't seem like a
- 51:58great thing for the company. And it doesn't seem like a great
- 52:01thing in terms of getting more buzz when their whole goal is
- 52:05kind of just buy it, make it look good, sell it to somebody
- 52:08else. The Deebs.
- 52:11The Deebs would save us. Dabes Yeah.
- 52:17Well, first I want to point out that you skipped over media for
- 52:20media's sake. Well, did I mean did I skip over
- 52:22that part? I missed it.
- 52:27All of us just going around. It's funny.
- 52:29I was thinking about he he's right.
- 52:30Like we're all just hovering on it gets weird because boys
- 52:34interrupted are the athletes right?
- 52:38And we're a news we. Talk about the athletes.
- 52:42And we talk about the athletes, so it's like we have to cover
- 52:46Media Hill. It was interesting, but.
- 52:49I think we did it a little bit different, right?
- 52:51Yeah. Yeah, but there is like a lot of
- 52:55wash and repeat in the media space and it's tough, dude.
- 52:58Like when you, you know, spinning are constantly talking
- 53:03about different ways to do add things to the show, change up
- 53:06the show when crossfits in the state it's in and sponsors there
- 53:13in the state it's in and it's expensive to go do things like
- 53:16it gets hard to like make new content.
- 53:19Sure. No, I mean, it's and there's
- 53:23only so many things you can talk about too.
- 53:27I mean, at one point it was whatever CrossFit told you and
- 53:32people complained. You only talk.
- 53:34CrossFit only talks about the top three athletes over and over
- 53:37and over again. If it's not Rich or Catherine or
- 53:41Annie or Ben Smith, CrossFit doesn't talk about them.
- 53:46Yeah. And then it opened up to there's
- 53:50all kinds of outlets now and some will talk about those non
- 53:55top three athletes and they get 16 views.
- 54:00Then you'll have others that like.
- 54:02Love you, Scott. I mean, there's all kinds of
- 54:05them. It's not Scott.
- 54:06I mean, it's everybody. And I mean there's some European
- 54:11fans that don't get a lot of views.
- 54:14Yeah. Like, I mean, I watch Swedish
- 54:16podcasts for you guys and they don't get a lot of views.
- 54:20They. Don't know how.
- 54:23You find this shit? I watched one in German today.
- 54:26It wasn't worth clipping. But anyway, like unless you want
- 54:31the same thing over and over again, like I would say doing
- 54:35something like this where we're watching Mason talk about
- 54:39something and weigh in our own, like, I don't think that's any
- 54:42different than other. No, there's no.
- 54:46Difference non non like major media outlets.
- 54:50It's just that when you look at major like major sports,
- 54:55basketball, football, like you're watching either ESPN or
- 54:59or what or you'll spin off and you'll watch Barstool or Pat
- 55:04McAfee. And those seem big and different
- 55:09because they're high dollar things, but it's.
- 55:11Well, if we had 25,000 live stream viewers.
- 55:14Right. Like I feel like we'd have
- 55:16enough sponsors to do a whole lot more stuff, right?
- 55:20It's a little different when we're all home grown and we're
- 55:23we're doing this on shoestring budgets, right.
- 55:26So anyway. This one is a extras here for
- 55:34you. One is things that didn't really
- 55:35fit into one specific category, but I still wanted to talk about
- 55:39the copycats. One of the side effects of
- 55:41having something as good as CrossFit is that you're going to
- 55:45have copycats. I mean, a perfect example of
- 55:47this would be like comp train. They come in, they're all
- 55:49CrossFit, all gung ho, and then now they're like, oh, well,
- 55:52working people don't need to be doing muscle UPS.
- 55:54So we're going to make this different thing and like kind of
- 55:57talk down on CrossFit and it's like nobody ever said working
- 56:00people need to do muscle UPS, but it's still good to try and
- 56:02do them to develop your strength, flexibility, balance,
- 56:05coordination, accuracy, stamina, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
- 56:08blah, blah. Like, yeah, OK, maybe not
- 56:10everybody should be trying to do a muscle up right now, but we're
- 56:13not going to sit around and act like it wouldn't be good if
- 56:15those people could do muscle UPS.
- 56:21Yeah. Yeah.
- 56:22I mean, this is reiterating on the same point I had earlier.
- 56:25So Jessica Kahoy thing you're just doing CrossFit, but
- 56:31CrossFit does need to acknowledge that like people are
- 56:34peeling off and doing these things.
- 56:37And when it's like when it's one person, you know, when it's just
- 56:42Jessica Kaoy, no big deal. But when it's like you have
- 56:46Jessica Jeff, Josh Bridges at this point, you have Marcus
- 56:50Philly, you have hybrid, you have high rocks.
- 56:54Like they're all saying something and you're not
- 56:56listening and. I think we're going to have.
- 56:58I think you'll see more coming out of like the those that are
- 57:02leaving the space now create their own that's going to do the
- 57:08same thing. I think we'll see more of that.
- 57:12You're going to see more of an exodus.
- 57:14More athletes who are on their way out that start like I got to
- 57:17figure out what to do after this.
- 57:19I'm going to launch my own online program and I'm going to
- 57:21follow. They'll be more like what those
- 57:24those groups that you just named versus the Rich Froning who are
- 57:28stay true, stay, stay and say I'm doing CrossFit.
- 57:31It's just called Mayhem. Right.
- 57:34It's just our brand. Yep, this one is interesting.
- 57:37World type of thing it's crossfitters against each other
- 57:40because we're just those types of late stage CrossFit ISM thing
- 57:44whoop grips jump ropes by my get your first strict pull up
- 57:47program. Like everything you can think of
- 57:50in CrossFit that could be sold is being sold literally CrossFit
- 57:54just started their own clothing brand like CrossFit HQ the
- 57:58company. What is that like stick to doing
- 58:00CrossFit. I like the.
- 58:04I don't have a problem with HQHQ's always had its own
- 58:08clothing line, but what he's talking about is like their.
- 58:11They don't have it up. No, you didn't have it up.
- 58:13Their fitness looking stuff like their workout clothes.
- 58:20Yeah, I think his point was that you couldn't even see that it
- 58:22said CrossFit on it. That's just apparel.
- 58:24And it's like this tiny little thing, like it's, it looks more
- 58:29like Lululemon or Viori than it does.
- 58:31Right. And that's the.
- 58:32Problem you want you want to wear something that says you do
- 58:34CrossFit. Also the problem is like this is
- 58:38not neon yellow or teal or orange like why would I buy this
- 58:43as a crossfitter I need one of those colors.
- 58:47Before I can buy it. That's old school Reebok
- 58:48thinking there, which is interesting because I remember
- 58:52people complaining, awesome people complained about the the
- 58:55bright colors when Reebok was doing it.
- 58:58And then they leave. Noble comes in and puts in all
- 59:01these muted colors and all everybody says is I want to go
- 59:03back to what Reebok did. These are boring.
- 59:09This is my John for sure. Is it OK?
- 59:13To be for real. TBF, that's to be for real.
- 59:18To be fair. To be fair, it's close enough.
- 59:22The core tenet of the early day CrossFit was libertarian
- 59:25entrepreneurship. Why should we be surprised that
- 59:28as a result we have so many players in the market?
- 59:30I don't have an issue with it. But I think that's the whole
- 59:34theory of late stage capitalism is that everything becomes
- 59:41capital like like a sellable, like big corporations come in
- 59:45and it's not sustainable. So what is this?
- 59:53Do you want to get the press releases?
- 59:56I don't know what's going on, but good evening, PC.
- 1:00:02So that is it. Go over to Mason startup Uncut.
- 1:00:08Go subscribe. The what I wanted to end with on
- 1:00:12this was that I don't like that this sentiment keeps coming up
- 1:00:17late stage CrossFit, the rise and fall of CrossFit.
- 1:00:20And it's like the point that Amy made is like, we have our fair
- 1:00:23share in that being a sentiment because we keep talking about
- 1:00:27the old glory days and we keep talking about the shit that
- 1:00:30CrossFit does wrong. And I'm like, we're not saying
- 1:00:33we want it to go down or we want it to fall, but like a, we got
- 1:00:38to point out that you're not hitting the mark and we got to
- 1:00:41start hitting the mark. Right.
- 1:00:43That's all we're doing. But I I think it's fair, like we
- 1:00:45do have some responsibility in this.
- 1:00:48And I think it's some with some is within control of HQ, some is
- 1:00:54not, and some is left to the community.
- 1:00:58It's those who are outside the community.
- 1:01:02So Mason startup, my major problem is the degradation of
- 1:01:10the methodology. What's funny, though, is you can
- 1:01:13tell that he has a nuanced understanding of what the
- 1:01:15methodology is like he was playing ball with our Dave Cross
- 1:01:19or Dave Castro. Cross, yeah, he went in, He went
- 1:01:21into a little bit. I didn't pull the clip, but it
- 1:01:23was talking about the GHD setups, right?
- 1:01:26And how basically that they they've just been bastardized
- 1:01:32for the sake of sport versus me, like the intent of what the
- 1:01:37reason for that is. And now we do them and people
- 1:01:41are doing them. And if you searched GHD sit up,
- 1:01:45you'll see a video that's not by CrossFit.
- 1:01:47That's a sport based video that shows people doing WFP sit ups
- 1:01:53or Mayhem classic sit ups. Yeah, not Jr.
- 1:01:56Howell sit ups on the GHD. Right.
- 1:01:59And everybody's like, yeah, those are the most efficient way
- 1:02:02to do them. Sure.
- 1:02:06I miss when things are about efficiency, don't you?
- 1:02:11Something like that. So go do that.
- 1:02:14Let's let's get Mason over 300 subscribers.
- 1:02:17That would be fantastic. That way, what's his name can
- 1:02:21be? Emmanuel.
- 1:02:24Yeah, Emmanuel can be happy that he's watching somebody with more
- 1:02:27subscribers. Let's see.
- 1:02:30All right, I think we should go to viewer comments.
- 1:02:33John is 10 minutes away. Maybe, maybe let's see makes
- 1:02:39another wrong turn. What's awesome is two of my
- 1:02:42favorite people are are bashing each other in the comment about
- 1:02:45a topic that I care a lot about. Then you have to pay attention
- 1:02:49to me instead. All right, this is your
- 1:02:51reminder. Subscribe if you have not
- 1:02:54already. That way Emmanuel is more
- 1:02:57impressed with our channel. Jason Zerba whatever happened to
- 1:03:02the US gymnast who was rumoured to be interested in heading a
- 1:03:05group to buy CrossFit? I thought spin out an article
- 1:03:10which I actually read all the way through.
- 1:03:12That's not always happens about it a month or so back or am I
- 1:03:17losing my mind now? That was actually like March
- 1:03:23time frame, maybe early April. So definitely way more than a
- 1:03:26month ago. But I appreciate you going back
- 1:03:29and and finding that if it was only a month ago that you read
- 1:03:31it, that was Shawn Johnson. Shawn.
- 1:03:36Yeah. She put on her stories back,
- 1:03:39shoot now six months ago that she was interested and then just
- 1:03:47beard poof. I actually had a conversation
- 1:03:50with them. I never I, I, I was holding it
- 1:03:53close to the chest because like, you never know how these things
- 1:03:56are going to go, but you. Don't want to be squirrely, huh?
- 1:03:58Yeah, it was. No, you know they call they.
- 1:04:04They talked to you, they called, they asked to talk to you.
- 1:04:06Yeah, I know some people who are friends with some friends and
- 1:04:09they they were like, yeah, I just want to get your your vibe
- 1:04:12on the whole situation and. You killed the deal.
- 1:04:16Well, they seemed cautious. Really, really like probably
- 1:04:20responsibly cautious, like the kind, you know how it's like we
- 1:04:25asked George Washington to be president and he was like, no,
- 1:04:28and that or king and he was like, no, that's probably the
- 1:04:31guy you want to be king. And it's like I that's how I
- 1:04:34felt about them is like they were overly cautious.
- 1:04:37That's probably who you want to be the owners of CrossFit.
- 1:04:40So yeah, they were good. They were just, they were very
- 1:04:42cautious. I think they're out John George.
- 1:04:46My gut is if the guy running PF takes over Planet Fitness that
- 1:04:52is a master of CrossFit is doomed as we know it.
- 1:04:58That company preaches eating pizza and don't lift heavy.
- 1:05:02It's another Rosa scenario. One guy wants to be cool and run
- 1:05:05CrossFit while using other people's money.
- 1:05:08Not going to work. Just my opinion.
- 1:05:13Is he talking about the Deebs? The Deebs, the Deebs and
- 1:05:15Mastrov. I look for a clip of Mr. Deeds.
- 1:05:21Deebs. I watched a clip about him
- 1:05:24talking about weed. Yeah, I watched that one too.
- 1:05:27I did watch the Mastrov. Several Mastrov videos.
- 1:05:32That the one with him with big cat Mastrov is.
- 1:05:36The barstool big. Cat.
- 1:05:38Yeah. Barstool.
- 1:05:38Big cat? Not, Yeah, not our big cat.
- 1:05:43He's actually compelling Cat. I think he's naive if he's
- 1:05:47really truly interested in this. I don't think he understands
- 1:05:52what he's getting himself into though.
- 1:05:55Like everything he says sounds great about how he's run his
- 1:05:58businesses. Like I mean.
- 1:06:00Oh, he's some people in this in this ecosystem.
- 1:06:02He's their wet dream. Like he was talking about how
- 1:06:05when he was running his gyms he was paying back in.
- 1:06:09Was it the 90s, 80s, nineties? Who's paying his like managers
- 1:06:13of gyms that were super successful hundred 200,200
- 1:06:16thousand dollars? I think some were like making
- 1:06:19like recently 800,000 like 10 years ago.
- 1:06:24And he's very big about sharing the wealth with those who help
- 1:06:29him create wealth, and that he was cares more about success
- 1:06:32than the money that's created. Just every affiliate owner, just
- 1:06:36hard owner right there. But I think owning Planet
- 1:06:42Fitness is way different than owning CrossFit.
- 1:06:47It's a very mathematical game, a 24 Hour Fitness.
- 1:06:51Our whole thing is about people. Like basically the only two
- 1:06:55things that matter is are you a good coach?
- 1:06:59No, three things that matter. Are you a good coach?
- 1:07:01Are you good with people and is your rent cheap?
- 1:07:03That's the three things that matter, and he didn't have to do
- 1:07:07with two of those. He didn't have to deal with two.
- 1:07:10Of those yeah he he rewarded those who followed the game plan
- 1:07:14yeah CrossFit doesn't have a game plan actually it's leave me
- 1:07:20alone and let me follow my game plan and secondly like I'm going
- 1:07:26to have a voice I want to have a voice in everything that you do
- 1:07:30right yes 910 thousand 11,000 however many you want us
- 1:07:34affiliates you want to say now Tyler I know you got into the
- 1:07:38deep debate about how many we have this week but it.
- 1:07:43Wasn't a debate. It was an.
- 1:07:47Idiot yelling shit into the fucking ether and me just going
- 1:07:51no. Yeah, well you responded to them
- 1:07:53anyway. Like to have that many people
- 1:07:58yelling at you saying do this, do that, this isn't working on
- 1:08:02top of it having our channel talk about it, savan everybody
- 1:08:06else, like in the media space talking about it.
- 1:08:09People that are just on Reddit complaining about it.
- 1:08:12Like nobody does that about Planet Fitness.
- 1:08:16Yeah, right. You're running a business.
- 1:08:19It's not this is this is way different.
- 1:08:22And I'm not sure that he understands what that means to
- 1:08:25come in and and take it over. So I don't know.
- 1:08:30I've been trying to talk to the Deebs.
- 1:08:33He told me that some things that were said were misrepresented
- 1:08:38and I wanted to try to clear the air with him and and he doesn't
- 1:08:41let his side of the story come out.
- 1:08:43We'll see if that comes through or not.
- 1:08:45Come on, Deebs, I really want to give you a shot in here, man.
- 1:08:48I like Mastrov there. He needs some tweaking.
- 1:08:53Like he's got to call me. Of course, you know, we got to
- 1:08:55talk it out. I got to.
- 1:08:56Feel him. Mastrov has to call us.
- 1:08:57I'm trying to get hold of Deebs. I, I want to talk to him, be
- 1:09:01like, hey, listen dude, what you're running here is a whole
- 1:09:05ecosystem of, of people. You're running a church, you're
- 1:09:08running churches and that's not what you were running.
- 1:09:11Once he figures that out, I think we got some, some stuff to
- 1:09:14work. I want to give him the benefit
- 1:09:15of the doubt, but right now it's not looking good.
- 1:09:17Yeah, we'll see one of our favorite commenters, Banana
- 1:09:22Banana Dance Man. Man, I have missed this guy.
- 1:09:25It's been a while. He knows about Master of Maybe
- 1:09:30Mastrov's money is mostly from an E sports company LMAO.
- 1:09:34He managed to attract a few big name pro athletes to invest in
- 1:09:38his E sports biz like a rod. So that was Castro knows a rod
- 1:09:43right? If you want a template for what
- 1:09:47this goof is going to try to do, it's twitch streaming and E
- 1:09:52sports affiliate should just stop paying.
- 1:09:56What's HQ going to do? Seize your real estate?
- 1:09:59Lol they'll do nothing. I don't he lost me after.
- 1:10:04Yeah, he he hard pivot. I don't understand what how how
- 1:10:09he's going to turn CrossFit into Twitch streaming.
- 1:10:11Yeah. I don't understand how that's
- 1:10:13going to work. And I'm pretty sure he made a
- 1:10:14lot of money on Planet Fitness. But thank you banana at Corey
- 1:10:20Treharne. Plot twist of the century is
- 1:10:25that Sousa is actually behind all this news and has been the
- 1:10:28ultimate puppet master all along.
- 1:10:31The poor guy is just too busy. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.
- 1:10:38Wouldn't. That be funny.
- 1:10:40He's been very absent lately, so who knows?
- 1:10:43Working at Home Depot, at Benetal.
- 1:10:46Are we just going back to sanctional model?
- 1:10:51Yes. Do you think it lasts?
- 1:11:00Yes, as long as the CrossFit Game season does, yes.
- 1:11:07I don't. I'm not sure.
- 1:11:10Because the Crossfest Take it back.
- 1:11:12I don't know what I I just get the feeling that this isn't the
- 1:11:16this. Isn't.
- 1:11:17This isn't the path. No, but anyway, that's.
- 1:11:22AI think it needs to be refined to figure out how to funnel the
- 1:11:26athletes to certain places, but I think the the sanctional model
- 1:11:32can work, but there needs to be better guardrails.
- 1:11:38I think the the concern and I think we we showed it a couple
- 1:11:41weeks ago, right? Like where do athletes go?
- 1:11:43How do you like, how does Wilson at syndicate extend invites to
- 1:11:51what is it 30 or 20 athletes worldwide?
- 1:11:55When would your almost guarantee that Ricky is not going to come
- 1:11:58here? So then he has to backfill to
- 1:12:01the next person. That next person is from Europe
- 1:12:04and they're like, why would I come?
- 1:12:05No, like so I think, I think they need to refine that, but I
- 1:12:11think the outsourcing model is probably here to stay, no?
- 1:12:20I don't know, I just get there. I get a weird vibe.
- 1:12:23OK, at Ryan Pelican after the Rogue Invitational bench press,
- 1:12:29I was hoping John was going to be here for this.
- 1:12:31How would you guys feel about weight classes in CrossFit
- 1:12:35Games? 2 heats of under 200 lbs and two
- 1:12:38heats of over £200. I know it's not a fun not a
- 1:12:42thing, but fun to think about. It's not fun to think about.
- 1:12:48John would lose his mind right now.
- 1:12:51I like that there's work to be done.
- 1:12:54I don't like that they scaled it to whatever you weighed that
- 1:12:59there. I want there to be work to be
- 1:13:00done and to for you to be the best no matter how big or small
- 1:13:05you are. I don't I don't give a shit
- 1:13:07about weight classes. To me it's always weird because
- 1:13:10it's like you have the Super heavy weights in, in
- 1:13:12weightlifting and you do need to to, you know, you can't have
- 1:13:16like a, you know, some guy that weighs 150 with the Super
- 1:13:19heavyweights. Have you seen the professional
- 1:13:21sumo wrestler? No.
- 1:13:22All right, give me a second. But like at the end of the day,
- 1:13:28that guy's the strongest, the Super heavyweight is the
- 1:13:31strongest. Now we are saying that people
- 1:13:34are the fittest. We don't give a shit about the
- 1:13:37fittest in your weight class. Know what that like?
- 1:13:39That has 0 pill. Here we go.
- 1:13:44Oh yeah, I do remember this. Remember when Grid made an old
- 1:13:47guy participate in every league? They did.
- 1:13:49Every team. That was great.
- 1:13:51It was amazing. That was DEI before it was DEI.
- 1:13:58So the 16 year old sumo dude defeated 39 year old, what's his
- 1:14:05name? Emma Medaki, who's more than
- 1:14:08twice his size. I'm a Medaki.
- 1:14:13Oh hell yeah, he's got he just because he's more nimble.
- 1:14:17Has to be. These graphics are terrible.
- 1:14:20And stop complaining about the live stream we.
- 1:14:27Really. This.
- 1:14:28This show's really changed. I miss the old spin.
- 1:14:31Yeah. That's for sure.
- 1:14:33That's for sure. Look at this little dude.
- 1:14:35You don't need to weight classes.
- 1:14:38Come on, look at that. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:14:43Get on her in there you go. He's just running circles around
- 1:14:48him. Look at that.
- 1:14:53Yeah, look at that. He all leveraged him.
- 1:14:57That's right. See, you don't need to weight
- 1:15:00classes, no such thing as a weight class in professional
- 1:15:04sumo. So you don't need that.
- 1:15:09I would actually say that right now the lighter weight division
- 1:15:14needs needs the help more than the heavier division.
- 1:15:19What do you mean? You got to be over £200 to win
- 1:15:22now. Well.
- 1:15:25There's that. I mean, do you think I've always
- 1:15:30I, I, I think about this a lot? Is that just a that the big guys
- 1:15:34are getting better and that just is what it is or we, I mean like
- 1:15:37this was the machine games, are we just moving in that
- 1:15:42direction? Like, is it just because we're
- 1:15:43programming machines or are the bigger guys getting better?
- 1:15:48I think, I think the way the program has shifted is going
- 1:15:51towards the big powerful guys. I think they're getting better,
- 1:15:55right? Like there was never a guy that
- 1:15:57was over 6 foot two other than Fuykowski who is good at
- 1:16:02endurance, right? Right.
- 1:16:04Like Asia Bartow can do any of the stuff that Jason or James
- 1:16:08could do. Yeah, like Easy Handle, who are
- 1:16:15a couple of other big guys. I mean, none of them had, like,
- 1:16:19they were just strong dudes, but they didn't have the technical
- 1:16:22side of things. So I think that definitely does
- 1:16:24come into play. But when you start programming
- 1:16:29power output on machines, and machines are a big part of what
- 1:16:33you're seeing now that they're all inside, it makes a
- 1:16:36difference. Was easy only 511.
- 1:16:40I think that's true. Like he didn't feel that much
- 1:16:44taller than me. But compared to like, but
- 1:16:47compared to like Frazier, he's a giant.
- 1:16:51Yeah, he wasn't rich. He was big, right?
- 1:16:54He was. Way bigger than Rich.
- 1:16:58Yeah. I mean, I don't know.
- 1:17:00I mean, I And you even see, like when Hopper goes to Rogue, he
- 1:17:06looks at those workouts and he goes overhead squats, burpees.
- 1:17:11I can't win. Medeiros looks at the final
- 1:17:13workout with the bike goes Best I can do is top five at best,
- 1:17:20right? We're starting to see, like,
- 1:17:23what that whatever the programming goes, there's going
- 1:17:26to be a different profile of who fits and wins.
- 1:17:29Yeah. And now, granted, we've had nine
- 1:17:33years in a row, basically, with Ben Smith in the middle of the
- 1:17:38same person, basically, Yeah, Right.
- 1:17:42And I wouldn't say Ben's that much different than those two
- 1:17:44guys. And so it's changed.
- 1:17:49I don't know if it'll ever go back.
- 1:17:52The last one he's in here at James in the gym.
- 1:17:58Armand Hammer is crossfat. There's no way.
- 1:18:03I mean, there's time that I have thought that that's who Crossfat
- 1:18:06was in the past. It there there's some ways that
- 1:18:12it makes sense, but it. Doesn't.
- 1:18:15It's not, I don't think it's, I don't think it's Armin.
- 1:18:17If it was Armin, it'd be the greatest thing of all time.
- 1:18:20Just let us know. Let us know, Crossfat.
- 1:18:22Yeah, I think CrossFit still like he goes to shit and Armin
- 1:18:29doesn't. We would have known about it if
- 1:18:32Armin went to shit. CrossFit.
- 1:18:35Were you recently in Korea? Oh, there it is.
- 1:18:41There it is. We've got to help John with the
- 1:18:43direction. I'll see you later.
- 1:18:44We call it. We figured it out.
- 1:18:46We figured it out. There we go, John.
- 1:18:51Mark comment. Yeah, this is your reminder to
- 1:18:55like and subscribe right now John is he's he's getting his.
- 1:19:00Nowhere to be found. Nowhere.
- 1:19:02Nowhere to be found. WFP.
- 1:19:04Fizzle out the fizzle out the WFP, fizzle out.
- 1:19:09Everybody's leaving. Jason Hopper's out.
- 1:19:14Beat that one by a few days. Where's this announcement?
- 1:19:21I don't know who that guy was, but somebody didn't believe.
- 1:19:24Someone in the comments did not believe that Jason wasn't Oh
- 1:19:29look at this. Oh man, there he is all.
- 1:19:34Right, let's get started. And you're in like a a black
- 1:19:37shirt tonight. This is weird.
- 1:19:39You all right, John? I'm.
- 1:19:40Great, I dressed up. Dude, I had to.
- 1:19:43I went through some stuff. I don't really want to talk
- 1:19:47about it, but we're here. We did it.
- 1:19:50Well, you're just in time for some WFP.
- 1:19:53Physical. All right, good all y'all.
- 1:19:55Y'all took long time on comic. We did it.
- 1:19:58Yeah. Yeah, we did.
- 1:19:59We did what we could to you. Know I appreciate.
- 1:20:02You will late stage CrossFit the hell out of it, yeah.
- 1:20:05It's good that you want. Can you give me a spark note?
- 1:20:08It's over. So that's.
- 1:20:13No, I mean, like, it was just that Mason brought up a lot of
- 1:20:16really good points. He stabbed CrossFit in the face
- 1:20:19about 16 times, but none of it was like, undeserving.
- 1:20:25Yeah, yeah, OK. Like Mason's like the great one
- 1:20:29of the best fans because he does make content, but he's not like.
- 1:20:33But it's not enough content to be like.
- 1:20:36One, he's not one of us, so to speak.
- 1:20:39You know he's not. I I get, I get it.
- 1:20:42You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:20:43He comes with an idea, he does it, but he doesn't, fortunately.
- 1:20:45With Mason, but he's not, he's not connected.
- 1:20:47He doesn't know people like that stuff.
- 1:20:49He just. He doesn't.
- 1:20:51He doesn't try to. He doesn't try to.
- 1:20:53He's just like, I want to make a video.
- 1:20:55Here it is. And sometimes it's good,
- 1:20:57sometimes it sucks, like the Men's Physique one.
- 1:21:01But no, I, I'm I would 100% get it.
- 1:21:04Yeah, yeah. He's like the the best fan that
- 1:21:06you want to have a pulse on. No, I I like Mason.
- 1:21:09I'm good with Mason. Yeah, Mason's cool of shit it.
- 1:21:11Was good World Fitness project Jason Hopper's out.
- 1:21:17We just found out that Austin Hatfield pulled out.
- 1:21:22Sam Quant is out. Victor Hoffer's out.
- 1:21:25Maddie Sturt is out. Paige the Menza is out.
- 1:21:30Hayley Adams is out. Emma Tall might be out.
- 1:21:34Wait I thought the Paige the Menza part was fake?
- 1:21:37No, the fake was that she's not hurt.
- 1:21:39OK, why is she pulling out just because she don't want to do it
- 1:21:42anymore? Just too many, too many
- 1:21:43competitions. She need to post somebody
- 1:21:45pulling out. I, I would love it would be so
- 1:21:49great, Ricky, if you're listening, because we all know
- 1:21:51what's coming. You think?
- 1:21:54If I would love from somebody goes, I'm withdrawing from the
- 1:22:00WFP just because I don't want to do it anymore.
- 1:22:03I like you, just you just said. I am out.
- 1:22:08Yeah. Paige Sementa made a post talks
- 1:22:14about how she got sick right after the World Fitness Project
- 1:22:19in Mesa. So basically it's not due to
- 1:22:23injury, but to advocate and putting my health and my
- 1:22:27headspace first. That's tough.
- 1:22:30It is. I'm genuinely excited to take
- 1:22:31this time to make some changes, rebuild properly, and walk into
- 1:22:342026 with a clean slate, guys. Want to show you something.
- 1:22:40So I, I tried to like run in here because and the my car
- 1:22:45door, I stabbed myself because I was trying to like get in here
- 1:22:53so fast And I shut the door and it like just took my leg off.
- 1:22:56Never done that. And then I limped.
- 1:22:58I limped over to my computer. Don't worry though, I did take
- 1:23:01the time to grab some milk and some Oval tea because I haven't
- 1:23:07had anything to eat. That's why he hurt himself.
- 1:23:09He's in a hurry. What's there's a It's a quote
- 1:23:14from a movie. Due to unforeseen prior
- 1:23:17commitments, I cannot do the WFP unforeseen.
- 1:23:21Prior. Unforeseen prior.
- 1:23:22Commitments is amazing. Yeah.
- 1:23:26So they, I mean, basically anybody that has now withdrawn
- 1:23:31is out. I think actually, actually I
- 1:23:33haven't done the math, but Austin Hatfield I think may have
- 1:23:37a chance to actually keep his pro card.
- 1:23:41It'd be really close. It'd be crazy.
- 1:23:45By earning 0 points. Enough people withdraw.
- 1:23:48I mean the I mean, Austin had 910.
- 1:23:51The next guy that just took his place had 340.
- 1:23:55So damn, like 500 and. Who is that the the Gilpinator?
- 1:24:00Matt Gilpin, last place, we'll get 540 points.
- 1:24:05So like it's right there. So I mean, as more people, you
- 1:24:11know, withdraw, he never know. John's mic is not on.
- 1:24:16I'm trying guys I know. Did you see his leg?
- 1:24:19Just calm down guys. Guys, I'm going I'm.
- 1:24:23I'm going through it. Just.
- 1:24:25Just let me be. I y'all don't know.
- 1:24:29I just got my cornea back. You know, like like like just
- 1:24:34I'm trying, I'm trying, I guess just let.
- 1:24:37Me be I guess we didn't we didn't talk about the the
- 1:24:41Swedish podcast because that came out last week.
- 1:24:47See, where is it? I mean it's I posted a lot.
- 1:24:49Oh, friggin Roger. Roger, Roger.
- 1:24:53Hey, somebody out there tell me, why does Roger have two last
- 1:24:57names? That's a good question.
- 1:24:59I have no idea. Roger Gil, Gil Ross Nilsson.
- 1:25:04Is that a Swedish thing? First one.
- 1:25:10Next year, is it already finalized?
- 1:25:13I can honestly say that we have 3 plots.
- 1:25:18Three plans are because there are three things we have to
- 1:25:21somewhat try to follow. The CrossFit season is what it
- 1:25:25is. Will the CrossFit season be like
- 1:25:29this one? Do we have a plan?
- 1:25:31Will CrossFit be sold? Then we have a plan with the
- 1:25:33buyers who are going to purchase it.
- 1:25:35We have had meetings with them several times, latest in
- 1:25:39Scotland, the new buyers and if they buy it, there will be a
- 1:25:44certain change in the CrossFit plan and if they don't buy it
- 1:25:49then we have another plan. And that plan is either we work
- 1:25:53with CrossFit as we have had meetings with CrossFit and
- 1:25:57talked about how we can collaborate if they don't sell.
- 1:26:01So we are talking a lot with CrossFit, both Crossfit's new
- 1:26:05potential BIOS and CrossFit with those who run CrossFit today.
- 1:26:10We had the meeting with Dave Castro just two weeks ago,
- 1:26:13potential collaboration during quarter finals because we want
- 1:26:17to have an event the same weekend.
- 1:26:19What is the plan? Why now can does it?
- 1:26:24Does it just make them automatically sound like like
- 1:26:28Die hard or villains like a die hard villain?
- 1:26:31Or is it? Are you just you just are you
- 1:26:33making? That, that, that's.
- 1:26:35He went through several different accents well.
- 1:26:38It's, well, there's a second, he was Australian, there's one
- 1:26:41point, there's a second and third person in there.
- 1:26:43So the AI tries to match their tone from Swedish to English.
- 1:26:49So. What would the AI Would the AI
- 1:26:52mix our voices together? As long as you don't over talk
- 1:26:56over each other and it can recognize the three of us, it
- 1:26:59does a pretty good job. But the minute that you start
- 1:27:01talking over each other, it it captures it.
- 1:27:05But then it starts trying to it like wigs out trying to figure
- 1:27:07out who it is who. So either that or he's a Bond
- 1:27:11villain and that's just how he talks in English.
- 1:27:15Not sure he's not smart enough. To be a Bond villain.
- 1:27:19But then if you watch Dave Castro's, we can review, first
- 1:27:23of all, he didn't talk to Rodger.
- 1:27:25So Rodger was not part of the we.
- 1:27:26It was the royal we. Secondly, it sounds like Jackson
- 1:27:32may have reached out to him and then Will may have messaged him
- 1:27:35or texted him, texted Dave Castro.
- 1:27:39And to me, I read it as World Fitness Project wants, needs the
- 1:27:45collaboration more than what Dave Castro and CrossFit need.
- 1:27:50Yeah, right. Like we really want to have this
- 1:27:54the same weekend. Can we work something out?
- 1:27:57Is the way I interpreted it. Here's a big bag of cash do.
- 1:28:03You think it was that or like begging that they get the
- 1:28:06quarterfinal workouts the program for for my Orca?
- 1:28:10I think the most important question is how far along do you
- 1:28:14think Taylor is in his workings on his Roger impersonation?
- 1:28:20I bet he can't do a Norwegian accent.
- 1:28:22You don't think he can do the Swedish accent?
- 1:28:23No. No.
- 1:28:25I bet he's working. I bet he's working on it.
- 1:28:28He works on that stuff a lot. He actually takes pride.
- 1:28:32I think he's I think he's Norwegian, not Swedish.
- 1:28:36Roger. Yeah, Roger, I think he's
- 1:28:38Norwegian. I don't know, it's somewhere up
- 1:28:43there. Yeah.
- 1:28:44I think it was a Swedish podcast so maybe just speak both.
- 1:28:47I don't. Know he lives in Sweden, Yeah.
- 1:28:49So anyway, I don't know if that's really happened, but then
- 1:28:55of course, Roger wasn't done. We got an unlimited check.
- 1:29:01And then suddenly someone calls and says, ha, have you run a
- 1:29:05competition? No, but no, no, no.
- 1:29:07Take it easy. We pay for everything and then
- 1:29:11we do it free of charge. OK, And then the best athletes
- 1:29:14in the world come, OK, So you have $2,000,000 in budget for
- 1:29:17each competition and no risk on the budget, yes.
- 1:29:20OK, But we can do that, right? And then I want you to do it for
- 1:29:24three years at least, OK, I can do that.
- 1:29:28So I want you to travel as much as you can you know as long as
- 1:29:32as much as your wife allows and your wife wants to join.
- 1:29:34You can travel as much as you want.
- 1:29:36Unlimited budget and a blank, blank check I.
- 1:29:39Just as long as you travel with a World Fitness Project T-shirt
- 1:29:42and say that you work for World Fitness Project, you can travel
- 1:29:45wherever you want and whenever you want I.
- 1:29:50Mean I got. I anytime somebody put that
- 1:29:52down, anybody, anytime somebody says blank check, I'm like,
- 1:29:56you're full of it. You're there's something not
- 1:29:59right about it. I don't think he's wrong.
- 1:30:02Look how much Will's travelling. Look at how much all these guys
- 1:30:05are travelling. No, that's not what I mean.
- 1:30:08No, not Not that you can't deliver.
- 1:30:09That more about the Gillettes letting them just.
- 1:30:11I'm saying if like there's a blank check, you get to do
- 1:30:14whatever you want. I don't think that business is
- 1:30:16going to survive because you don't care about the business.
- 1:30:20You have all the money that you want.
- 1:30:22You don't even think it is a business.
- 1:30:24You know, I think I'm going to give Magnus Samuelson a call and
- 1:30:27give make him pay a visit to Roger.
- 1:30:30That's what I think. Magnus, I want you to listen to
- 1:30:32that podcast. Not this Magnus.
- 1:30:34Magnus Samuelson. No, I'm listening.
- 1:30:36I'm talking to this. You know who Magnus Samuelson
- 1:30:38is? No, you.
- 1:30:39Want to guess? He's probably a strong man.
- 1:30:42He is a strong man. Yeah, his.
- 1:30:45Last name's Samuel. He won the world's he won the
- 1:30:48world's strongest man, like in 1993 or something.
- 1:30:51Yeah, of course. But I want Magnus if if if you
- 1:30:56speak well, I assume it was in Swedish to listen to that
- 1:31:01podcast. Was there was there not like a
- 1:31:03bit of like it'd be like if if we all got hired by HQ and they
- 1:31:10gave like say they gave $720,000,000 and seven calls me
- 1:31:17and. It's like $50,000.
- 1:31:21Stefan calls me. He's like, yeah, dude, we, we
- 1:31:23can fucking do whatever we want. The blank check, just look like
- 1:31:26you're doing something. Wear a CrossFit T-shirt, like
- 1:31:29just fuck. And then I go on a podcast and
- 1:31:31I'm like, guys listening to this, like.
- 1:31:33Can you believe this? Stefan called me.
- 1:31:35He's got 20 million bucks and we can just fuck off and like, act
- 1:31:39like we're doing. That's what it sounds like, am I
- 1:31:42not? Yeah, but.
- 1:31:45He said it. He said it on a Swedish podcast,
- 1:31:47so nobody will find it right? Yeah, I don't think, I don't, I
- 1:31:50don't think he thinks anybody would find it, but still you
- 1:31:52don't. There's no fucking.
- 1:31:53Way I'd say it regardless, I don't even think I don't think I
- 1:31:56even I would say it and I'm pretty bad about, you know, not
- 1:32:00saying things. James, that's a good joke.
- 1:32:07He loves those headphones. Those headphones are are are
- 1:32:10like his Prelude. I think they're fine.
- 1:32:14They're different. No, you bring up a good point.
- 1:32:16You bring up a good point, Tyler.
- 1:32:18Like why are you talking about that?
- 1:32:22No good could come from it, that's for sure.
- 1:32:26There's not one thing that could be good from it for sure.
- 1:32:31Unless you're just so like egotistical that you think that
- 1:32:33like look how cool I am, I can just travel if I wanted to.
- 1:32:37Like look how cool like this. This group is so awesome.
- 1:32:41And. Then you're just and then you're
- 1:32:43just a douche. Right, which confirms every bias
- 1:32:49that I've had against him since the beginning.
- 1:32:51I think if Savon said hey, I'm going to give you $1,000,000, I
- 1:32:54would be like, hey, don't do that.
- 1:32:56Like give me give me like 100,000 like a.
- 1:32:59Million for two years. Like like, like, like, yeah,
- 1:33:03like let's do checks. Don't just give me $1,000,000.
- 1:33:06Like, I just don't think that's I don't want that much money.
- 1:33:10Right. What about the $2,000,000 per
- 1:33:12event? That's that's become the best
- 1:33:15meme that you guys. Have been doing. $2,000,000.
- 1:33:21$2,000,000 in blank check. I guess we get an idea now of
- 1:33:26how much they're just throwing away at every one of these
- 1:33:30competitions. And there's no way they're
- 1:33:31getting that return from their sponsors.
- 1:33:37No way. And then, of course, we couldn't
- 1:33:42leave Roger without talking about Rich frowning.
- 1:33:45It was rumoured in another podcast I listened to that the
- 1:33:49purchase has stalled partly because of rich frowning, among
- 1:33:53other things. No.
- 1:33:55No, look now more news is coming.
- 1:33:58No, but because he has a home that is very strong and he
- 1:34:00doesn't want to change owners. That was the theory I heard.
- 1:34:03But as I said, I have no idea what's behind it.
- 1:34:06He doesn't have much power. No, actually, someone surely
- 1:34:11thinks he has it, and he thinks he has it.
- 1:34:15It was rumoured in another podcast to listen.
- 1:34:19He has no power. It's.
- 1:34:22Great like why are you saying this shit?
- 1:34:28I don't give a shit if if you think he doesn't have any you're
- 1:34:32out of your mind. Number one.
- 1:34:33OK, sorry my brain is breaking. They were just at coaches
- 1:34:38Congress in in Europe. Congress coaches.
- 1:34:45Coaches Rodger was there. I almost got him spinning.
- 1:34:50He was. He was about to repeat it.
- 1:34:53Rodger was there. Rich was there.
- 1:34:54Rodger knows how much sway Rich has.
- 1:34:59Even if you think it's overblown, it's still not half
- 1:35:02shit. It's more than everybody, you
- 1:35:03know, Rodger. And you're you're just burning
- 1:35:06and a bridge. You don't need to burn very.
- 1:35:09You know what, your friend. Checks your ass, Can't it's.
- 1:35:12Very. It's very friendly, I think.
- 1:35:15Unfriendly. No.
- 1:35:17Friendly. You know what?
- 1:35:18I'm oh, is it is. It you know what I'm saying?
- 1:35:20Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying.
- 1:35:21You don't think so? Just burning a bridge for no
- 1:35:24reason? Or maybe he didn't know.
- 1:35:28Would you? Pair Would you pair all of these
- 1:35:31like it starts to like paint a picture of this guy, right?
- 1:35:35Like. That he's an asshole.
- 1:35:40I'll. Say it for you.
- 1:35:41Yeah, sure. Like.
- 1:35:42He has no power you. Have no power.
- 1:35:48You have no. Power, you need to you need to
- 1:35:52find that clip, find that clip right there.
- 1:35:54Whatever, wherever that that movie is, like, wherever that
- 1:35:57clip is, that's what you need to find.
- 1:36:00The laughing in that clip is just fucking anyway.
- 1:36:04Yeah. I mean, I just don't understand
- 1:36:07why, if you're just a European event director, why you're doing
- 1:36:10that. Sorry.
- 1:36:13Yeah, like. Dumb.
- 1:36:18So dumb you're overplaying. Why are you showing any of your
- 1:36:22cards? Whether you agree with what Rich
- 1:36:26does or not, you have to respect where he fits within the
- 1:36:34CrossFit like decision making. I'm not saying they they they
- 1:36:38could talk to him, but like what Rich does is closely watched by
- 1:36:43a lot of people. Yes.
- 1:36:47That has power. It's weird I don't.
- 1:36:49Even if you don't think he has any power, you should be like,
- 1:36:52listen, Rich is Rich. He's got a great guy, but he's
- 1:36:56not involved in what we're doing.
- 1:36:57Like what's the point of saying that?
- 1:37:01What you said like I don't, I don't get it.
- 1:37:04You want. Rich on your side, regardless of
- 1:37:06how powerful you think he is, why are you burning it for no no
- 1:37:11reason on a podcast? Like, are you out of your damn
- 1:37:16mind? It just doesn't.
- 1:37:18And I'll give you an example when when, when Hitler, when
- 1:37:20Hitler did the when did the the show with Brian?
- 1:37:24And then people tried to on here.
- 1:37:27I know they wanted us to be mad about it, right?
- 1:37:30And I could feel whatever type of way I feel about it, but I'm
- 1:37:33like, you know what? He's doing his thing.
- 1:37:35I don't have control over him. That's that's them.
- 1:37:37And I could hate it. I could not care.
- 1:37:40But that's my response to that. No matter what, you know, Tyler
- 1:37:44hates freaking, what's his name, the RPM scoring guy.
- 1:37:48I don't. Hate it.
- 1:37:51I hate RPM scoring. But he hates that guy.
- 1:37:56But but, but he goes, but he goes.
- 1:37:59Listen, he does. He's got his, he's got his
- 1:38:01thing. It's not my thing.
- 1:38:03I just, you know, I just let him.
- 1:38:05I. Hated him.
- 1:38:09I I actually think he's a sweet guy.
- 1:38:11He's a. Really.
- 1:38:12He's. A great guy, Yeah.
- 1:38:14He's got nothing but respect for you.
- 1:38:16He just wants to take you, know, you over.
- 1:38:18He just wanted to take kilowatt peace score and replace it with
- 1:38:21RPM and then if it wasn't much better or worse.
- 1:38:26If you want tickets to the World Fitness Project finals, you can
- 1:38:30use Masterpod in WFP promo code and save 30% off.
- 1:38:38Dude, can you? Tyler's probably better at it.
- 1:38:43He likes to make videos like this.
- 1:38:44No offense spin, I know you probably can, but you don't
- 1:38:47care. Make like Inglorious Basterds on
- 1:38:51one of these comments has Inglorious Basterds in it, but
- 1:38:53where the Bear Jew comes out, Like you know the scene where he
- 1:38:57hits the baseball bat a couple times and it's Rich's face and
- 1:39:01then you have Roger's face and Roger, you have Roger's face
- 1:39:04right here and then him just bashing Roger.
- 1:39:08'S. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:39:10And then and then hold on. Somebody's got to be Brad Pitt
- 1:39:13and be like, hey, do you know what that is?
- 1:39:15Right. He's a Brad.
- 1:39:16Oh, Brad's here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:39:17Brad Pitt's got to hyping it up, right?
- 1:39:19So somebody's got to be Brad Pitt.
- 1:39:22I don't know. I I don't know who that would
- 1:39:24be. No, no, no, no, no.
- 1:39:26Dave Castro, you should make that.
- 1:39:28You should make Brad Pitt Dave Castro.
- 1:39:31Hey, look. And this brings Rich and Dave
- 1:39:33together in some way, Like we're bringing the community together.
- 1:39:37And then you have Jason Khalifa in the back.
- 1:39:39And then you got, you got Jason Khalifa in the back just kind of
- 1:39:43watching it and smiling, you know?
- 1:39:45Yeah, Yeah. I'm just I.
- 1:39:47That's the. You should do that.
- 1:39:48Tyler. You can put faces on him if you
- 1:39:51need or you know, whoever does that, whoever does that, they
- 1:39:54should do. That and then in a turn of
- 1:39:58events, World Fitness Project published its Pro Card
- 1:40:04contracts. John, you'd have to be 5th or
- 1:40:08better to jump on this train, $50,000 for 5th place guaranteed
- 1:40:13money. 80,000 for first all the way down to 10,000 to compete at
- 1:40:19least four times next year, is the the rumor.
- 1:40:21And this is guaranteed money, right?
- 1:40:23This. Is guaranteed so.
- 1:40:25But any prize money that you make, we need to establish this
- 1:40:29because it was all a little bit hairy.
- 1:40:30Any prize money you make within the competition, say you win and
- 1:40:36the winner gets $30,000. If you're the 80,000 dollar
- 1:40:41person, like say you're the, you know, let's James Sprague, let's
- 1:40:43say he gets the highest one because he might win this year,
- 1:40:46right? The 30,000 you win in the
- 1:40:48competition goes towards your 80,000.
- 1:40:52It's not on top of it. So for James to get the 80,000
- 1:40:57or like to get more than 80,000, he would have to win three
- 1:41:02different tour stops and then he could possibly get more than
- 1:41:0580,000. That's why it is guaranteed they
- 1:41:08do get this money, but anything they win in the competitions is
- 1:41:13earned towards this and they don't get any money past that
- 1:41:17until unless they eclipse it. So time out.
- 1:41:20Let me restate this. You're saying this is the payout
- 1:41:25for the finals, right? But you're.
- 1:41:27Saying this is the payout. For the year.
- 1:41:30The finals. The finals doesn't give money
- 1:41:32it's it's the year. I mean the in itself the finals
- 1:41:35does but this is their their yearly contract.
- 1:41:40Right, It's funny 'cause it's like I've been, I've been over
- 1:41:43this like 6 times and I feel like I screw it, like I
- 1:41:46misunderstand or screw it up every.
- 1:41:48Time, let's say, let's say James Sprague wins this year and he
- 1:41:51makes the $80,000 contract for next year, OK.
- 1:41:53And he goes to all three of the the tour stops.
- 1:41:57How much was the tour stop #1 pay?
- 1:41:5930,000. 3030 thousand for first, let's just say he let's say this
- 1:42:04in this case, he takes last and he wins like the 1000 or $2000
- 1:42:07or whatever it is. He does that three times.
- 1:42:10He makes $6000 right in prize money.
- 1:42:14He still walks away with $80,000.
- 1:42:17But that 6000 is is nothing like he just.
- 1:42:20He doesn't get the six, he just it's applied towards the 80.
- 1:42:24Now if he ends up making prize money that says is $90,000,
- 1:42:28he'll get. He gets, he gets the he gets an
- 1:42:30extra 10 on top of his guaranteed contract, a total 90.
- 1:42:33He does not get 170. He'd have to win every single
- 1:42:37tour stop, all three of them, to get more than 80 grand.
- 1:42:43So like if he gets, let's say he gets third place in every single
- 1:42:47competition, his average is third place, right?
- 1:42:50Maybe he wins one, maybe he gets fifth and one he gets 3rd and.
- 1:42:53Another one, it's like 15,000 each.
- 1:42:55Then, right, he's going to he's, he's going to be at 80.
- 1:42:58It's going to be whatever your contract says you're at for that
- 1:43:01many competitions now. I think it's a great deal for
- 1:43:05807060, right? But you look at the your 9th
- 1:43:11place, like your 30,000, if you're like 5th place, right?
- 1:43:16And like this is like an awesome Hatfield, kind of like it's
- 1:43:2230,000 for four competitions and like you got to win multiple
- 1:43:26tour stops to get past that. Maybe you do, but like it's
- 1:43:3130,000 for four competitions is not that much money like that?
- 1:43:35Austin WON Austin won and took eighth or ninth in the second
- 1:43:39Tour stop, and he's made $36,000 this year.
- 1:43:46Which is 6000 more than what the guaranteed would be.
- 1:43:51If he was at the 30. If he was at the 30 that we we
- 1:43:53kind of like, they didn't put out who got what right.
- 1:43:56So if we think most of the athletes were around 30 grand in
- 1:44:01this first one. So he would have made $6000
- 1:44:06aside from his contract. So do we know what the payout
- 1:44:09for the for Copenhagen is? Yeah, yes.
- 1:44:13You want me to show you that? Yes.
- 1:44:16And again, it almost doesn't matter.
- 1:44:18It's just applied towards this contract.
- 1:44:21Because that's the part that I'm that I, that.
- 1:44:23I'm like, like Jeff, if you miss a competition like a lot of
- 1:44:26these, and here's the thing you're not really talking about,
- 1:44:28like a lot of these athletes will miss one of them.
- 1:44:31They'll do two of them and then miss one and then do the final
- 1:44:34because you could still make it, right?
- 1:44:36You get 0 money on the one that you don't go to, you know what I
- 1:44:40mean? So then it makes it even harder
- 1:44:42to eclipse your contract. So here's the prize purse for
- 1:44:48the 2 tour stops, Indianapolis and Mesa.
- 1:44:51Right? So this is just what you think
- 1:44:53about. You go to a competition, you
- 1:44:55finish first, you win $30,000, you take ninth, you get $6000
- 1:45:01down to 1500 for the 26th to 30th.
- 1:45:04What gets weird is the WFP purse for end of season payout.
- 1:45:09So the the finals, there is no payout for who wins first place
- 1:45:14in Copenhagen. The payout that you see $75,000
- 1:45:19is the season total points. So James Sprague enters the the
- 1:45:26the finals with 970 points. Roman has 920, Austin had 910.
- 1:45:34Whatever the the points that they get for the finals will get
- 1:45:38added to their season total rank that over all three competitions
- 1:45:43and then the prize purse is paid out.
- 1:45:46So it's not how you do in Copenhagen, it's how you do
- 1:45:48season total, so. Go back up real quick.
- 1:45:52So it's possible for the winner of Copenhagen to be third place.
- 1:45:58So, OK, but if I get third, if I get third at Copenhagen, that's
- 1:46:0320 grand. Let's pretend no.
- 1:46:06At Copenhagen, you get no if you get third place, like overall
- 1:46:11for the entire season, no. No, Copenhagen.
- 1:46:13There is no prize money in the fire.
- 1:46:15There's no prize money for Kobe bro so it just goes to your
- 1:46:18point standing. So.
- 1:46:19So if you are, if you're Gilpin, let's say Matt Gilpin wins and
- 1:46:23he has 340 points right now. Yeah.
- 1:46:26And he ends up, you know, climbing all with the
- 1:46:28leaderboard to get 21st for the season points.
- 1:46:34He gets $4000 for for winning the whole thing.
- 1:46:38Applied towards his contract. He's a challenger, no?
- 1:46:42He's right, right? I know, I know, But for the guys
- 1:46:43that are in it like it's not doesn't even mean you get.
- 1:46:46So there is a high, there's a chance that somebody that's like
- 1:46:516th, 7th wins Copenhagen but doesn't win the season and they
- 1:46:58end up their payouts less than say Sprague because Sprague had
- 1:47:01the better overall season. And you can even do the, the
- 1:47:08math on your contract like if you missed one and then you know
- 1:47:13what the point spread would be. And then say you're like, you
- 1:47:16know, you'll probably get 5th, but then you're not going to
- 1:47:20make like that's $25,000. But you wouldn't eclipse the
- 1:47:23contract that you had. Then why would you go?
- 1:47:28So that's because you don't get that.
- 1:47:29You don't get that 1/3 or 1/4 of the contract.
- 1:47:32Oh it. Goes it it it evaporates.
- 1:47:36Right. Like Austin's already probably
- 1:47:39made-up his money. So like, not going like, yeah,
- 1:47:42he's foregoing whatever the Copenhagen season payout he
- 1:47:45would get, but they can't claw back any of his not showing up
- 1:47:50money. What place is Austin in
- 1:47:53currently? 5th. 5th so he's.
- 1:47:58No, he was third. He was third.
- 1:48:02Yeah, he had 910 points. He was third.
- 1:48:09So really. This is not a bad thought.
- 1:48:21That, well, we sort of had that. That's the Canyon, right?
- 1:48:26Yeah. Or no, the Canyon you climb out
- 1:48:28of. What was the one that was bad?
- 1:48:32Man, we've done so many. Death Valley.
- 1:48:35Death Valley, we haven't. Done that, but OK, so Austin's
- 1:48:38in 3rd. So really any anything he takes
- 1:48:43away from Copenhagen is is extra cash for him.
- 1:48:46Theoretically correct, unless he had a larger contractor. 30
- 1:48:50grand, right? Which I'd be willing to bet he
- 1:48:55may have had. I don't know.
- 1:49:00Now spin, can you explain this to me?
- 1:49:02Now, if they don't do Copenhagen, that violates their
- 1:49:07contract and this means that they will not be there for 2026.
- 1:49:12I don't know if it violates the contract from that standpoint,
- 1:49:15but they won't have enough. They won't be in the top 20 in
- 1:49:18season points to retain their pro card.
- 1:49:20Because Copenhagen's double points.
- 1:49:23Yes. So he's like, Austin's stuck at
- 1:49:279:10 if you go down like, so yeah, if we go down here to say
- 1:49:37like Luca in 20th, right, Luca is guaranteed 570 points or 540
- 1:49:44points. So he's going to be above the
- 1:49:459:10. Gotcha.
- 1:49:47OK. So can you go ahead and read off
- 1:49:50everybody that said they're not doing Copenhagen again?
- 1:49:53Is that a list that you have? I don't want I.
- 1:49:55Don't want to? Yeah, there's four men.
- 1:49:56Austin Hatfield out. Jason Hopper, out.
- 1:50:04Same quant. We think Ricky.
- 1:50:07I think Ricky's going to go. Dallin's not pulling out.
- 1:50:11Not yet. So far, Dallin's going and
- 1:50:15Victor Hoffer. Those are the four.
- 1:50:16OK. And the women?
- 1:50:18The women's are much bigger, somewhat.
- 1:50:25Emmett Hall is questionable with her shoulder injury from Rogue.
- 1:50:35Maddie Sturt is out in 17th. Lexi Neely is a challenger.
- 1:50:43She is out. She will not accept the top 30
- 1:50:46invite. Paige Samenza is out.
- 1:50:49Alex Kazan is out. And then you have Haley and Emma
- 1:50:55McQuaid are both out who never competed once.
- 1:51:00And so all of these people very well most likely will not be
- 1:51:03there next. Year, they will not, they will
- 1:51:05not have an in, they will not have a pro card.
- 1:51:06They go through the whatever challenger path there is to get
- 1:51:10into the field. So you got to pay your own way
- 1:51:15out to wherever it's going to be, pay for your hotel, your
- 1:51:20flight, no guaranteed prize money, probably have to do
- 1:51:25online qualifier or an additional competition to
- 1:51:28qualify into the tour stops. So if you didn't want to compete
- 1:51:34this much this time, you're not coming back.
- 1:51:38And they want to do more competitions, don't they?
- 1:51:40I. Don't think anybody wants to do
- 1:51:43more. Oh, world fitness.
- 1:51:44Project in this project. They're they say three World 3
- 1:51:47Tour stops in a finals is what they've said.
- 1:51:49They've also hinted at additional Challenger
- 1:51:51competitions that are like feeder systems.
- 1:51:54So like I think first floor might be one of those.
- 1:51:58The Wadla stuff that Rodger runs would be like feeder comps.
- 1:52:03So do a competition there the top finishers can get like
- 1:52:06qualify into different competitions, tour stops, so.
- 1:52:16Can't wait to see what happens. I'm excited guys.
- 1:52:19The future is bright. The future is bright for the
- 1:52:23CrossFit Games. Not this.
- 1:52:24I don't know why we're still talking.
- 1:52:25About it, I don't know. It's a stay tuned.
- 1:52:28I'm almost positive. I know you guys think Ricky
- 1:52:30won't show up. He made a comment that he was
- 1:52:33going to going to, but I think there is at least one male and
- 1:52:36one female that we'll see that will not end up competing.
- 1:52:40Zero chance to get along. They also have the exact same
- 1:52:43job. Just different continents.
- 1:52:47Just different continents. That's right, so stay tuned.
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- 1:53:09the algorithm of Instagram. Yeah, it's so.
- 1:53:12Much especially. With all the sales stuff going
- 1:53:15on and all that, you want to be on the front end.
- 1:53:17Sorry, John. Sorry, no, no, that was more
- 1:53:19important. I I have a question, in the show
- 1:53:23when I wasn't there, did you say the chip wasn't that bad, Tyler?
- 1:53:28If he would do the chip, he'd take the chip for you.
- 1:53:31I would take the chip for you. You would do the chip.
- 1:53:34Yeah, to save you, John. To save me.
- 1:53:37Yeah, because I figured you would not do the chip that no
- 1:53:40matter what, like I felt like it would kill you.
- 1:53:42I'm not doing the chip, yeah. And that's why I said I would do
- 1:53:45the chip for you. Well, Dallin wants to know your
- 1:53:49address so he can give you a chip.
- 1:53:52He wants to he wants to send you a chip for you to do it on the
- 1:53:55show. I I hold on, hold on, hold on,
- 1:53:58hold on, hold on. I think we should come up with a
- 1:54:01certain amount of money that if we get from the show, then Tyler
- 1:54:04will do the chip. Is that fair?
- 1:54:08Is that a fair thing to ask for money?
- 1:54:10I. Like money.
- 1:54:11Guys, you don't know what I'm talking about.
- 1:54:13Go to boys interrupted on their last show.
- 1:54:16I don't. I don't mind plugging them.
- 1:54:19It's probably the greatest, probably the greatest
- 1:54:21entertainment that I we've seen all year, even better than the
- 1:54:25CrossFit Games, you see, and this is a.
- 1:54:29Real Eat. Of, you know, you know what I
- 1:54:31know, you know what I know Jason will never touch the fitness
- 1:54:34that Matt Fraser was. Matt Fraser wouldn't eat that
- 1:54:38chip. Never.
- 1:54:39Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:54:39You know what? And that's why Jason Hopper is a
- 1:54:42great freaking champion. You know, like, like pure
- 1:54:45entertainment. Go watch their last episode.
- 1:54:48It was it was one of the greatest things I've ever seen.
- 1:54:51He's if you want to see Tyler eat that chip, let's call it
- 1:54:55$100. I think if we get $100, Tyler
- 1:54:58will eat the chip next show. Dude, there you go.
- 1:55:01I'm going to make Jason look really dumb like.
- 1:55:03This. Yeah, he thinks.
- 1:55:05It's not that bad dude. Oh my God.
- 1:55:08Let's do it. Tyler, I think it's bad.
- 1:55:11I think it's. Going to be bad, but I'm going
- 1:55:14to make Jason feel bad because I'm going to.
- 1:55:16I'm going to handle it like a man and not throw up like a
- 1:55:20fucking 5 year old. Flip it.
- 1:55:26Dude, I, I'm excited. I, I think, I think it's going
- 1:55:30to tear you apart. I heard I was taking a shower
- 1:55:33and I was listening. It was in the shower and I heard
- 1:55:39I and I went. I went.
- 1:55:41Been there buddy. We're going to count this.
- 1:55:44It came in a little bit earlier, but.
- 1:55:47We're. Going to count this one.
- 1:55:52Lee Frazier came in a little bit earlier but it goes towards the
- 1:55:55$100. Maybe a little sarcastic, but JY
- 1:55:57said Mayhem and Castro together. This Houston kid gets me.
- 1:56:01Tyler Walkins Ship Fund $90.00. Away Hopper is working on the
- 1:56:07The Hop shop right now. Flooring's going in tomorrow
- 1:56:09morning, so William Fultz from Murfreesboro, TN.
- 1:56:16Murfreesboro, Tyler, I think you should eat the chip while we're
- 1:56:22doing the Herd Fest commentary. Like while we're commentating on
- 1:56:27a heat that you have to try to get through it and then you
- 1:56:31can't drink milk until they're done with the workout.
- 1:56:35Like you can't drink anything. I can't.
- 1:56:37Drink milk, John. No, I want I if we're going to
- 1:56:39get the money, I want the, I want the views of that.
- 1:56:41On you want it on my channel? OK, OK, All right, all right.
- 1:56:44And then I guess we could say will Tyler handle it better than
- 1:56:47Jason? Yeah, like that's that's going
- 1:56:49to be the big thing. Yeah.
- 1:56:52So yeah, Hopper's out there working on the shop, probably
- 1:56:56listening to the show right now. Blind drinking's time.
- 1:57:01Tyler, Are you ready? I don't have my mask.
- 1:57:04Hey, text me, text me your, text me your address, Tyler, so we
- 1:57:08can get this, get this going. Down.
- 1:57:10Really. When do they?
- 1:57:11Oh dude, of course. He wants to.
- 1:57:12I thought this was a bit. No, dude, no, absolutely not.
- 1:57:17Tyler and and honestly, I, I'm curious.
- 1:57:23I don't think you know what this is.
- 1:57:24Dude, I I would do 100 bar facing burpees again instead of
- 1:57:29eat that chip and that was that was not great.
- 1:57:31Yeah, all right. Last week, John missed it.
- 1:57:35We covered fruits. Fruit by the foot.
- 1:57:39This week we're going to the other side of the table.
- 1:57:42We're talking veggies. You're ranking vegetables.
- 1:57:45I know both of you love vegetables.
- 1:57:49Why? I've been I've been venturing
- 1:57:51out here like I've been eating some salads.
- 1:57:53Have you? Yeah.
- 1:57:54You're going to rank these really well.
- 1:57:56When? When's the last time you had a
- 1:57:57vegetable, John? It's been a minute.
- 1:58:00I don't eat many vegetables. Actually, four days ago I had
- 1:58:04some tomato sauce. Tomato sauce, huh?
- 1:58:10Yeah, it's a part of a pizza. Well, rank these as if you ate
- 1:58:18vegetables. OK Veggie Tales.
- 1:58:20Big fan of Veggie Tales? Or if you had to, if you had, if
- 1:58:23somebody gave this to you. I'm going to rank this on what
- 1:58:26Veggie Tales. I like Veggie tales.
- 1:58:28Yeah, what Veggie Tale characters I like the best is
- 1:58:31what I'm going. To have you started watching
- 1:58:32those with Miss Abigail? It's it's not yet.
- 1:58:36We're not, we're trying to not watch TV so much, but we, we
- 1:58:40will. We will like when it when it
- 1:58:43we're watching TV, we definitely will.
- 1:58:44I'm a big veggie, big vegetal guy.
- 1:58:46All right, well, let's see where you rank your vegetables.
- 1:58:49First one's broccoli. Sweet and sour.
- 1:58:54Broccoli. Oh wait, what?
- 1:58:56Sweet and oh. You would not have gotten it.
- 1:59:02You would not have. Gotten it, he got it, was lost.
- 1:59:05Got it, was lost again, and then they got it again.
- 1:59:11I'm going 4. Yeah, he's a little kid, like a
- 1:59:16snobby kid on the show, so I'm good with four.
- 1:59:20I'm ranking the food John's drinking Veggie Tales broccoli
- 1:59:24with cheese on it. Pretty good.
- 1:59:27Cheese on them in the show so I can't comment.
- 1:59:29We're up man. Larry looks different with Tyler
- 1:59:34on that chip. Ain't about nothing.
- 1:59:37He had to change his thing to Billy Madison because he knows
- 1:59:40how ridiculous this chip is going to be there.
- 1:59:46Up to $17.00 Tyler's Tyler's getting nervous. 83 away.
- 1:59:51Come on. Come on.
- 1:59:52Faithful, $5 at a time. We're kipping.
- 1:59:55Come on. I know you're in there, Riley.
- 1:59:58Mr. BB Riley, BB's dad. Let's get that chip more money
- 2:00:03from Murfreesboro. Let's go.
- 2:00:05Technically outside of Murfreesboro, but close enough
- 2:00:07I'll count it. And guys, if you don't know what
- 2:00:09we're talking about, it's the world's hottest chip.
- 2:00:11It's the hottest chip in the world.
- 2:00:13And Tyler can take it down no problem and.
- 2:00:15Tyler said that that chip's the only thing in his throat.
- 2:00:20He he's like, he didn't need nothing in his mouth.
- 2:00:23Except for that chip. What else did he say?
- 2:00:25He said a lot of things, Tyler said not not wanting a hiccup is
- 2:00:29going to happen from Tyler. The hiccup thing was.
- 2:00:34Crazy. The hiccups were amazing.
- 2:00:36It was. Immediate.
- 2:00:38Immediate. I was like.
- 2:00:41Like how was that a thing? His body had to be like, reject.
- 2:00:45No, like like I, I don't know how you like, I don't know how
- 2:00:49it happens, but the hiccups were incredible.
- 2:00:53His body SCG, we're up to $47. Make that.
- 2:00:59Oh. $67 chipping in for the chip by Vindicate.
- 2:01:04Go check out vindicate.com. Another five Baby Braun needs to
- 2:01:08know his dad is a winner. Even had the OOM.
- 2:01:11Lot correct? That's 7.
- 2:01:12Correct one, but. That's 72.
- 2:01:14We are $72 in to Tyler. Stop counting spin.
- 2:01:18We'll just you know we'll you will be like we're doing good
- 2:01:21that way. We need 4. 74.
- 2:01:24I don't want it to keep. I don't want it to stop.
- 2:01:27You see what I'm saying? Like we'll stop.
- 2:01:28We. Haven't got to 100, yeah.
- 2:01:30I'll look out. I got you all right.
- 2:01:31Next up, spinach little Popeye. Oh, I would.
- 2:01:37Oh, I would say 5. Are spinach and collard greens
- 2:01:41the same thing? No, they're not.
- 2:01:43No, they're not. Spinach was a big like, like a
- 2:01:46big weed that kept growing when you lied.
- 2:01:50Like the lie. Spinach green.
- 2:01:54That's that's number five for me, yeah. 55 man, Alan.
- 2:01:59Pugh, thank you very much. What does it come and say?
- 2:02:03Alan Pugh Let's see the chip then jy the Sir Stroming
- 2:02:08challenge following week. I don't know what that is.
- 2:02:10What is it? Sir Strom, I'm looking it up.
- 2:02:15I don't know ASJ 499 chip fund. Dude, I I look, you can't. 94.
- 2:02:22Dude, I love our, I love our. Our.
- 2:02:26People Judy, Judy needs to audit.
- 2:02:28We haven't had to audit yet. Our people are Icelandic fish,
- 2:02:33fermented fish. What drink, daughter?
- 2:02:35Drink Daughter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:02:38Now, have you seen people will open this fermented fish and
- 2:02:41they'll they'll throw up. That's how bad it.
- 2:02:44Is wait, did you just smell it? I I don't know how it gets in
- 2:02:47my. You got it.
- 2:02:48You got to eat it or you smell it.
- 2:02:50You got to eat it. I don't think you could but the.
- 2:02:53Smell is. So bad.
- 2:02:54I'm not doing any eating challenges unless it's like a
- 2:02:59speed challenge of something I like, I'm not doing it.
- 2:03:02I'd like y'all forget about me and eating things.
- 2:03:06If you want to do like a physical challenge, I'll carry
- 2:03:09that freaking rock up a mile. Whatever Jason was talking
- 2:03:12about, that other thing, like I'll do any physical challenge
- 2:03:15you want me to do, I'm actually pretty good at like a 24 hour,
- 2:03:19like something long crazy thing. I'm I kind of relish the mental
- 2:03:22challenge of that, right? I'm not eating anything.
- 2:03:26I'm telling you right now, if I was on fear Factor, I'm out.
- 2:03:30Stage two, OK, I I might rock stage 1.
- 2:03:33Stage 2, I'm out. What else is that?
- 2:03:35What? Survivor, Not Survivor.
- 2:03:38What? What's the the challenge off of
- 2:03:41MTV? You know what I'm talking about.
- 2:03:43We get to the finale. You got to eat some stuff with
- 2:03:45Rogan. I'm not doing it.
- 2:03:47No. Rogan's fear factor.
- 2:03:48Fear factor. Sorry, Miss Hatfield, because I
- 2:03:51found out from spin that Austin. Wasn't doing Oh.
- 2:03:54No, on this project, See, it's wild.
- 2:03:57Even Austin's Mama finds out from me, she believes.
- 2:04:01Crazy. Thank you, Chrissy.
- 2:04:03Thank you. I think we're getting close to
- 2:04:06that 100 bucks, Tyler. Yeah, Judy, get to count.
- 2:04:11Yeah, next, next, next, next deal.
- 2:04:13Bell Peppers. Oh, I would say too, he was.
- 2:04:17A good guy. Wow, you guys are on?
- 2:04:20It this week. Yeah, didn't realize that you
- 2:04:22guys were. So totally different scales
- 2:04:24here. Your bell pepper was my boy.
- 2:04:30I think they called him Peter Bell.
- 2:04:33Peter Bell? Yeah.
- 2:04:38Yeah, bell Peppers are great, dude.
- 2:04:41All right, next one. Cucumbers are #1 the carrot 3.
- 2:04:47Less three, yeah. It's like a standard.
- 2:04:49I do. I want to hold out for Larry the
- 2:04:51Cucumber as well. Cucumbers are the best.
- 2:04:54Larry the cucumber you don't like.
- 2:04:55He's the best canoe. He's the best guy.
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- 2:05:07Is cucumber a fruit? Is a pickle a vegetable?
- 2:05:10It's. Also a cucumber.
- 2:05:13OK, I didn't know if they were different or not.
- 2:05:15I don't. Know Armand says cucumber is a
- 2:05:19fruit I. Didn't.
- 2:05:21Know that. All right, last one it is #1 The
- 2:05:26best ranked vegetable amongst these 5 is asparagus.
- 2:05:33I love the way it makes you pee. Smells so bad it's I like
- 2:05:41asparagus, it's not a #1. There's not a lot of good
- 2:05:45options here. I'd probably say bell pepper
- 2:05:48number one, but. Broccoli #2.
- 2:05:52No carrot. Three asparagus for spinach 5.
- 2:05:55All right, they're all green. Carrots are not green.
- 2:05:59They're green. They're green at the top.
- 2:06:01And bell Peppers are all kinds of.
- 2:06:03Carrots are green at the top. They're a plant.
- 2:06:08They're going to be green. Somewhere.
- 2:06:10In the wrong green. All right.
- 2:06:16Well, that was that. That's a list.
- 2:06:20You guys, you guys did it, you rang vegetables.
- 2:06:25That's. A good, good looking list.
- 2:06:27That's a good looking list right there.
- 2:06:29What does my brother say? He says.
- 2:06:31I've seen a lot of lists and that's one of them.
- 2:06:34Dude, I'm gonna. I don't know if I want to say it
- 2:06:39on the air. OK, you don't say it while while
- 2:06:43you think about it. Don't worry about it.
- 2:06:44Don't worry about it, but remind me to say something like when
- 2:06:47we're all. Dude that's crazy.
- 2:06:49This is true. The Dutch family bread them out
- 2:06:52for anything but orange. That'd be crazy to see a
- 2:06:54different colored carrot. Yeah, there's like purple ones
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- 2:08:23which looks pretty sweet. I'm bummed that I didn't get
- 2:08:25that one. I swear you ordered.
- 2:08:28You ordered too early, didn't you?
- 2:08:29You ordered too early. I felt like that too.
- 2:08:32I was like, oh, I feel like I think we just already did that.
- 2:08:36But Sean really did it. On purpose.
- 2:08:40I can't bitch about it. Sean sent 22 pairs, so 2.
- 2:08:43Pairs, have you gotten yours? Yeah, I get my stuff way.
- 2:08:47Before he's on the east side. Where's my stuff spin?
- 2:08:50I'm about to go on a trip I'm not going to.
- 2:08:52It's just going to be on my. It's coming soon.
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- 2:08:58You don't know that I might be gripping it up in New York now I
- 2:09:01can't. Good.
- 2:09:04I'm good. Last one real quick, Tia, you
- 2:09:07called it John, she pregnant? What did I?
- 2:09:11Oh yeah, I mean. Say all kinds of stuff.
- 2:09:14I have no idea what I said. I think, I think a lot of people
- 2:09:19are saying that though I don't, I don't, I don't think I could
- 2:09:21take credit for that. I think a lot of people were
- 2:09:24saying that. I was on the the the leaning.
- 2:09:28Maybe not, but I guess I was very, very wrong.
- 2:09:31I know I did say it a long time ago, but I don't remember when I
- 2:09:34said it. Do you remember when I said it?
- 2:09:36No, I mean, we definitely talked about it during the spin test,
- 2:09:39during Tear cup for sure. Yeah, that's when we all started
- 2:09:43talking about. But I mean, I think dense
- 2:09:45updates mentioned, like there were definitely rumors during
- 2:09:48the game that somebody was pregnant.
- 2:09:49Now, I don't know if that was the case, but we'll find out
- 2:09:57when she actually has the baby. Start doing some math.
- 2:10:00Seven months. That'll be crazy.
- 2:10:04She's having the baby in seven. Months.
- 2:10:05No, she's seven months pregnant right now.
- 2:10:08If that's the case, how do? You know, she's still doing the
- 2:10:10games, man. She's going to, she won the
- 2:10:15games five months pregnant and then she's going to have a baby,
- 2:10:18win the games again with through a pregnancy.
- 2:10:21That's crazy. I look, she already had a baby,
- 2:10:24like took a year off and won. Now we need a new challenge.
- 2:10:27Have the baby instilled with like, you know what I mean?
- 2:10:31No year off. That's the that's the challenge.
- 2:10:33She didn't even care if she had another baby.
- 2:10:35She was just looking for a better challenge.
- 2:10:38Heard she did this on purpose. She actually timed it.
- 2:10:40So yes, yes, yes, yes. She's like, what is the latest?
- 2:10:44I can still win the games. I'll ask Nick Johnston about
- 2:10:48that and see if he has an answer.
- 2:10:49Yeah, by the way, I hope that she didn't find any of this
- 2:10:52offensive. People found my photo cover
- 2:10:56photo offensive that I did her dirty.
- 2:11:00Oh yeah. I don't remember it being no.
- 2:11:03And she had like a pudgy stomach in it.
- 2:11:05She's pregnant. Like how dare.
- 2:11:07You show a pregnant woman being pregnant.
- 2:11:12I don't remember it being that's it.
- 2:11:15Please I look I look like that after a 20 piece nugget.
- 2:11:18I look like that daily. Are.
- 2:11:22You kidding me? Yeah.
- 2:11:25I mean and she still. Ripped out of her mind?
- 2:11:31That's just crazy. Wait, so you had to go back
- 2:11:37through the pictures you had of her?
- 2:11:40Which one's the most pregnant looking?
- 2:11:44Yeah. Well, no, he definitely tipped
- 2:11:46it through. It's like that's the one, That's
- 2:11:50the one. Hey now, hey now.
- 2:11:53That's gross. Why would you choose this photo
- 2:11:57right here? There's one.
- 2:11:59Dude, you strolled a long time. Yeah, a lot of people, they all
- 2:12:03started out initially, like Dale started.
- 2:12:05No, the comments. Yeah, you did her dirty with
- 2:12:07this pic. She still looks better than me
- 2:12:08though. So.
- 2:12:11What were you supposed to do? I'm supposed to make like.
- 2:12:14If I don't make a like a glamorous photo, I get in
- 2:12:17trouble for. I'll show you.
- 2:12:18Let me. Like even when I make a photo of
- 2:12:21Hopper, Hopper gets mad at what photo I use.
- 2:12:23What you do is because she's, she's, she's pregnant, so she
- 2:12:29needs to look angelic. So you take it and you know,
- 2:12:31you, you put a little highlight her so she becomes a sticker and
- 2:12:35then you added her back in, but you put the highlight glow
- 2:12:38around her. And then people be like, oh,
- 2:12:40look how amazing she looked. Yeah, yeah, she's got the glow.
- 2:12:43She got the glow. No, I, I mean she obviously
- 2:12:47regardless, like regardless of whether you think she was
- 2:12:49pregnant at the games or not, I think it's a little certain that
- 2:12:52she was pregnant. She like that was like 2 months
- 2:12:54ago at Tear Cup. That looks like Bruce Leroy got
- 2:13:00the glow around him. Yeah, I could just post the
- 2:13:04photo from 20. Was it 19 when she came out of
- 2:13:07the water in Madison just looking jacked?
- 2:13:12Pregnant. Nothing says pregnant like that
- 2:13:14picture. Or or like a picture of her like
- 2:13:18very first event in 2015, like just the most like this little
- 2:13:23girl looking to you just have any muscles.
- 2:13:26Right. So yeah, that'd be wild, John,
- 2:13:30if she came back. I'm just telling you what's
- 2:13:35going to happen. I don't see Seema.
- 2:13:38I remember when I was making cards for Wide Zombie there.
- 2:13:45I don't agree. Jason was easy to find pictures
- 2:13:48for that were good. There are.
- 2:13:50Yeah, Jason's ripped out. There are athletes that it was
- 2:13:55so hard for my me to find photogenic pictures of, I almost
- 2:13:59quit. Justin.
- 2:14:01It's one of the hard things to do when you get like work with
- 2:14:06photographers because they all want to capture like the action
- 2:14:11shots and it's easy to capture them at the finish line when
- 2:14:13they're like dying, which is cool for like social media and
- 2:14:17like the the moment. But then you post it like this
- 2:14:19or a story and they're like, how dare you?
- 2:14:23You did them dirty. And it's like you have to find
- 2:14:25photos of them that are like, just like, you know, when
- 2:14:30they're coming out before they've actually done anything
- 2:14:32like. Cards are hard because you like
- 2:14:36barbells don't fit well. You have to shrink them to where
- 2:14:39it's like you can't really show the barbell.
- 2:14:41Like action poses are not really good usually.
- 2:14:45Like rings are a really good one.
- 2:14:47Yeah. That's like, that's like, that's
- 2:14:48like, that's like. But then every other, every
- 2:14:51fight was on the rings. Yeah, it's I, I 100% agree.
- 2:14:54They tried to when they were doing Gridley stuff, they were
- 2:14:57like, we need one like action picture of you.
- 2:15:02And I'm like nothing really looks good.
- 2:15:05It's so hard and like I ended up going with one of me in the
- 2:15:09rings because I'm all stretched out and it looks good and like,
- 2:15:12but like I didn't touch the rings in grid.
- 2:15:14Like that's the picture that they that they showed.
- 2:15:18Is James a hard one to find an action shot just.
- 2:15:21So. Easy, I just figured because
- 2:15:23he's so ugly. That was that one.
- 2:15:26So yeah, he's. Well, it also helps.
- 2:15:28It helps if you are in a position to get a lot of
- 2:15:30photographs, because then you just happen to get more right if
- 2:15:34you're not. If you have an action shot, you
- 2:15:36know, yeah. Right, yeah, there might be 20
- 2:15:39that are bad, but all it takes is to find the one that that
- 2:15:42works and it and it improves it. The ones who were hard, I, I
- 2:15:47actually didn't see it coming. I was like, wow, you're really
- 2:15:50not photogenic at all. Like who?
- 2:15:54I can't just and I I'm not going to sell them out.
- 2:15:57Oh yeah, I know. It's not talking like, not like,
- 2:15:59just just the women. There's one that I was like,
- 2:16:05wow, I didn't realize until you start doing that.
- 2:16:08Work. I'm not talking about Laura.
- 2:16:09Somebody else? No, yeah, Tyler would rather eat
- 2:16:16a chip right now. I think we made 100 bucks.
- 2:16:21I don't know. It stopped.
- 2:16:21It stopped coming in. I think we're at like. 98, do
- 2:16:24that, 9098, is that where we're at?
- 2:16:26Yeah, let's see. Yeah, like the 98 I think is a
- 2:16:32good number. We need two more dollars.
- 2:16:35We got 2. More dollars.
- 2:16:36We have until 2/19. Do we have two?
- 2:16:40Dallon's already Dallon's on his way to FedEx.
- 2:16:42Do not make him turn around. Uh huh.
- 2:16:45He he really is. He is.
- 2:16:47We have two minutes, 2 minutes. Come on, 2 minutes heavy Seve
- 2:16:51that doesn't count. That does not count heavy.
- 2:16:54$2.00. Come on.
- 2:16:57Yeah, I hope I don't regret this.
- 2:16:58Didn't somebody die from the one Chip challenge?
- 2:17:02We need one more cent. Muscles $1.90.
- 2:17:06We need air it in. Oh there it is.
- 2:17:08Good, eat the chip. See all mofos this.
- 2:17:12Weekend. Herd.
- 2:17:14Fest game's coming to Herd Fest. It's right around the corner.
- 2:17:17Of course he's going. Oh, OK, I didn't.
- 2:17:19Sweet. Do you want to say what we're
- 2:17:22doing, Tyler? Yeah, we're, we're we're
- 2:17:24commentating the. Heart me and Tyler and live
- 2:17:28stream. Yeah.
- 2:17:29And I think the Glinton girls are going to be the B team, and
- 2:17:32then me and Tyler are going to be the A-Team, I think.
- 2:17:35I think Jenny is just going back and forth.
- 2:17:37So we have not talked about how we're going to do this spin.
- 2:17:40I just, I just, I just told you. Yeah, but like actually how
- 2:17:44we're going to do it. So like when you did it at, at
- 2:17:50Syndicate, you had a, a particular cadence.
- 2:17:54You were just like, did you just focus on like, I'm just going to
- 2:17:57talk whenever like people move into a new position or you know.
- 2:18:01Talking a mere spin. Spin Well, we had we had the
- 2:18:04fixed camera because we were the B team.
- 2:18:06So right, you had to like direct people where to look.
- 2:18:09So it's a little bit different than what John had to deal with
- 2:18:12where you have cameras, you kind of have to try to follow along
- 2:18:16with that piece of it, but. I assume, I think how it's going
- 2:18:20to be for us too, Tyler, I think the Glinton.
- 2:18:22So we'll have it'll be a fixed camera on like intermediate and
- 2:18:26scaled in RX. And then I thought we might come
- 2:18:29on the last heat of RX to give like a, a warm up, you know,
- 2:18:33like it's OK if we're effing up and then that way we kind of
- 2:18:36give together. Did you I so I plan on just
- 2:18:40being the play by play. You want to be the the color?
- 2:18:42Or do you would? You, I don't know.
- 2:18:44I'm usually not the color, so I'm just kidding.
- 2:18:47That's what I am. That's what I am.
- 2:18:49I I'm the color guy. I'm yeah, I'm just call.
- 2:18:53Just call me color. Like it's OK, you guys can
- 2:18:55figure it out on a Friday. It's fine.
- 2:18:56Yeah, totally fine. Yeah.
- 2:18:58No, we'll, we'll be, we'll be good.
- 2:18:59We'll be we'll. Be Speaking of Paper Street, but
- 2:19:02Speaking of Paper Street Coffee, stay tuned.
- 2:19:04There's something big coming. Gabe's been teasing it.
- 2:19:08I think next week maybe. Maybe so all news comes out on
- 2:19:14Wednesday, so maybe we'll find some paper street coffee.
- 2:19:17In the meantime, go check out Herd Fest.
- 2:19:19Is that on Savan's channel? Yes.
- 2:19:23Are you? Are.
- 2:19:27You, yeah. It's somewhere if I knew how to
- 2:19:30do stream yard and I was like, I know how to press live.
- 2:19:33Like yes. Let me go ahead and answer that
- 2:19:36question for John. We're going to.
- 2:19:38We're going to. Be my idea.
- 2:19:39It's going to be we're, it's going to be us figuring it out.
- 2:19:42OK, but. We text you on the link for like
- 2:19:45a year after he had the access. To the and then I figured it out
- 2:19:50like it just took a minute. We'll be we'll be we'll be fine.
- 2:19:54There's going to be stuff that I'm going to need like your help
- 2:19:57to figure out. And then I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll
- 2:19:59lead us on the the commentary. I'm not worried about the
- 2:20:01commentary. Just if you don't know what to
- 2:20:03do, I'll I'll, I'll be yes, it'll be fine.
- 2:20:06Lee Frazier, thank you. I think that's it, John.
- 2:20:10Thanks for joining even though it was extremely late, Tyler.
- 2:20:14Went through some stuff to get here man.
- 2:20:16Start, start preparing. That chip is on its way.
- 2:20:19Dallin is at the FedEx store right now.
- 2:20:22It is going to be overnighted to you.
- 2:20:26OK. Hey, take a picture, take a
- 2:20:29picture when you get it and like put it on like let's hype it up.
- 2:20:33And then and then I think we should simulcam Jason and Tyler
- 2:20:38both like at the same time, right, like once, once we once
- 2:20:42you do it and then put you guys yes, yes, and then we can even
- 2:20:46do James because James took it like a rock star.
- 2:20:49James was crazy good. At James, James ate.
- 2:20:52One yeah, James did no, no like a month ago he did it yeah
- 2:20:56really. And I'm.
- 2:20:56And like he ate it and was like, I mean, it's hot but like.
- 2:21:02James said he'd take it. James said he'd do it again.
- 2:21:05Yeah, James. James was like really good with
- 2:21:08it. I wonder if there's some trick
- 2:21:10if I could like eat a bunch of butter first or something like
- 2:21:13that. You go ahead and do whatever you
- 2:21:15want, man. I think it's going to make you
- 2:21:18freaking hear colors. I want to see you eat a stick of
- 2:21:22butter and then shove that chip down and see how that.
- 2:21:26I just hope Jeanette is like as supportive as Graceann was
- 2:21:31because Graceann highlight of that of the show because she she
- 2:21:36just like it. She was going to take care of
- 2:21:39him and he'd be taken. Care of no matter what.
- 2:21:41Number one, I'm down here in the basement alone.
- 2:21:44It's bedtime. It's bronze bedtime, so
- 2:21:46Jeanette's up there with him. I'm on my own down here.
- 2:21:50I think better tell her. I think you should tell her,
- 2:21:52hey, you might hear animal noises.
- 2:21:57Just, you know, if I do an elephant call, you need to come
- 2:22:00down here. I and I'm almost I'm almost
- 2:22:04serious about that. That way, like if you're ever
- 2:22:06like if you're really in trouble, you just go just get
- 2:22:11her, get her cut down to the basement.
- 2:22:13I don't think she. Can hear me down?
- 2:22:15Here you need elephant. You need to make it be loud.
- 2:22:21I apologize to absolutely nobody.