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It's painful but necessary... 💝 clearing pain through trauma work · She Rises with Ashy & Tijana

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Speaker 1: Apodjay production. We begin today by acknowledging the traditional custodians
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Speaker 1: of the land on which we gather today and pay
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Speaker 1: our respects to their elders past and present. We extend
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Speaker 1: that respect to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people's here today.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Grow and Glow Podcast. I'm Ashy, I'm Kiara.
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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we learn, laugh, and level
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Speaker 1: up together. Let's go deep, let the emotions flow, and
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Speaker 1: find the lessons to grow and Glow. Nothing is off
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Speaker 1: the table with Grow and Glow and we're here to
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Speaker 1: be your expander. Hello, welcome back to Grow and Glow.
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Speaker 1: So we're back with Levi. If you missed out on
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Speaker 1: our Monday episode, please go back and listen to it.
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Speaker 1: We discussed all things trauma as much as we could
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Speaker 1: in a forty minute episode. Obviously, it's a very in
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Speaker 1: depth topic and there's just so much to take in
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Speaker 1: and learn, and like we said in the episode, it's
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Speaker 1: a very trendy word right now, but it's just so
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Speaker 1: important that we all get to know ourselves and unpack
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Speaker 1: our past and really learn what's holding us back and
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Speaker 1: why we are the way that we are. We're all
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Speaker 1: such complex humans, messy humans. But today we're going to
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Speaker 1: be chatting with Levi, So welcome back to the show, Lebay.
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Speaker 1: How are you feeling today?
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Speaker 2: I'm feeling wonderful, amazing.
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Speaker 1: Today we're actually going to be kind of tapping back
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Speaker 1: onto Monday's episodes, so if you haven't listened to that,
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Speaker 1: we recommend going to listen to that first. But when
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Speaker 1: we're talking about the pain that's associated with trauma, so
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Speaker 1: emotional pain, physical pain, so we're really going to unpack
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Speaker 1: that today. So as a coach, what would you say,
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Speaker 1: is there like a more common type of pain that
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Speaker 1: you see a lot of your clients come through with.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's so many different pains, right, And
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Speaker 2: you can have gut pain, which is so common like
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Speaker 2: ibs that that people have got so much pain. You've
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Speaker 2: got endometriosis, which has pain associated with all the time.
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Speaker 2: You've got headache pain, migrain, you've got lower back pain,
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Speaker 2: you've got knee pain, You've got pretty much every single
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Speaker 2: disease or condition can have pain asociated with it, and
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Speaker 2: sometimes conditions don't have pain associated but they're horrendously disastrous.
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Speaker 2: But pain is just exhausting when you've got pain associated
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Speaker 2: with something, your energy levels are just so low all
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Speaker 2: the time. It's just so fatiguing, and it's just like
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Speaker 2: carrying like a heavy weight with you all day every day.
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Speaker 2: So people in pain. It can be jaw pain, it
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Speaker 2: can be teeth pain, it can be eye pain. Like seriously,
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Speaker 2: you know, there's so much pain in the world, and
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Speaker 2: that's sort of where I see that pain is connected
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Speaker 2: to that block stress in the body.
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Speaker 1: It takes over even like you said, if you've got
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Speaker 1: period pain or headache or a toothache or back pain,
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Speaker 1: it literally is like I had neck pain a couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and I found it so hard to
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Speaker 1: function and concentrate and just enjoy the day to day
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Speaker 1: things because it was all I could feel and think about. Definitely,
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Speaker 1: and so many women as well with period pain, like
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Speaker 1: I know how I used to be. I was down
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Speaker 1: and out, Like two days, I felt like I didn't
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Speaker 1: even want to leave my house because of the pain, bleeding,
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Speaker 1: like all those different things that were associated with the
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Speaker 1: periods as well. One percent years ago, I had really
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Speaker 1: bad back pain. I thought it was just from carrying
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Speaker 1: Taj all the time, and I went to see Taylor
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Speaker 1: Cecil who coached me for a few years. But I
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Speaker 1: remember first, when I hadn't heard of I suppose this
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Speaker 1: way of healing. I went to and being like, my
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Speaker 1: back's fucking broken. I need help fixing it. And yes,
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Speaker 1: we worked on the physical and we had day to
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Speaker 1: day stretches and different things that he did with my body,
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Speaker 1: but so much of it he was saying was emotional,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, no, it's not. I've just hurt
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Speaker 1: my back being carrying this big, heavy baby for years.
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Speaker 1: But honestly, like, once we get cleared a lot of
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Speaker 1: my emotions that I was feeling and going through at
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Speaker 1: that time and digging up the past, like it's crazy
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Speaker 1: how quickly the pain went away. And that's where I
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Speaker 1: really got to experience similar work to what you do.
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Speaker 1: Probably not as in depth as to what you do,
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Speaker 1: but it maybe really be like, holy Molly, we carry
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Speaker 1: so many emotions and stored energy in our hips, in
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Speaker 1: our back, in our bodies. So it's just incredible.
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Speaker 2: And when you think about it, based on what I
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Speaker 2: was saying last episode, pain is just another beautiful signal, right,
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Speaker 2: But it's just saying, hey there's inflammation here, or hey,
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Speaker 2: please don't keep thinking this way, or please don't keep
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Speaker 2: overloading yourself like this, or hey, three hours of sleep
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Speaker 2: isn't good enough. Can you please help me a little
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Speaker 2: bit recover? Right, And we don't listen to it, and
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Speaker 2: it sort of goes okay, a little bit of pain,
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Speaker 2: it shuts up, and then it goes okay, try this
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Speaker 2: fa size. I'm trying to tell you something again here,
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Speaker 2: pain or any of our conditions. You could be playing
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Speaker 2: tennis and you go over on your ankle and you've
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Speaker 2: got a certain amount of pain. Now, obviously that's a
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Speaker 2: contact thing. Whether you're saying your muscles a week because
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Speaker 2: you're not recovering, or you might be going through an
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Speaker 2: emotional stress, which is that's an association, but it is.
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Speaker 2: It's just a physical majority thing where the most of
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Speaker 2: my pain is just a response to a huge amount
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Speaker 2: of inflammation because I've torn a muscle or a ligament. Here, right,
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Speaker 2: we can have physical pain, we can have pain. That
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Speaker 2: was a great example Caura of period pain. The amount
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Speaker 2: of times that somebody's period pain has been fixed just
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Speaker 2: through taking magnesiums in can be six and all of
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Speaker 2: a sudden they come back and they're like, I'm a
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Speaker 2: different person. We haven't cleared any trauma, but it's just like, hey,
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Speaker 2: during these times, I just need extra amount of this nutrient, right,
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Speaker 2: And because you haven't given that to me and you
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Speaker 2: haven't been able to, I'm going to throw out these
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Speaker 2: extra symptoms to say back, the fuck off, don't do
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Speaker 2: as much work. And you're like, no, I can do
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Speaker 2: it through this, and a lot of women just push
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Speaker 2: right through. And as we become more connected to our
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Speaker 2: body and listening, etc. And I've seen that with you Ash,
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Speaker 2: you back off and it's like where you can life
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Speaker 2: happens obviously, but you sort of listen in and you go,
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Speaker 2: I can only be at a seven out of ten
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Speaker 2: during this period. Plus I need some extra sleep, I
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Speaker 2: may need some extra nutrients. And so a lot of
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Speaker 2: times we can resolve that pain or the excessive pain
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Speaker 2: for PMS, just with that extra supplementation. So we've got
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Speaker 2: there can be a physical cause of pain, there can
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Speaker 2: be a nutritional deficiency, but the majority of pain that
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Speaker 2: people go through is what we call chronic pain, and
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Speaker 2: chronic pain is really defined as anything that lasts over
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Speaker 2: six months. Now again, I'm at that point with chronic
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Speaker 2: pain where I hate to use percentages, But I would
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Speaker 2: say ninety five percent of chronic pain is just an
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Speaker 2: unsafe nervous system. So it's fear in the body, and
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Speaker 2: majority of that isn't the food, and it's actually the
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Speaker 2: body is now, you know, which is really smart. It
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Speaker 2: goes I've perceived that this food, this causes the bloating,
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Speaker 2: and the bloating equals the pain initially, but it's now
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Speaker 2: just remembering that this is a condition, or this is
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Speaker 2: a position, or this is an emotion that causes this.
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Speaker 2: And so what we do to reverse that is show
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Speaker 2: the body that this is now safe and people can
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Speaker 2: now eat gluten again, they can now eat dairy again.
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Speaker 2: An example is you know someone that walks in and
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Speaker 2: had been through almost everything, was just about to have
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Speaker 2: their backs like fused. They're having injections just to manage
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Speaker 2: the pain, and within really within an hour and a half,
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Speaker 2: they're touching their toes, they're swaying. In a session or
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Speaker 2: when you can use music and use vibration, we can
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Speaker 2: put you in a place using body up breathing so
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Speaker 2: that your nervous systems calm and I can help you
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Speaker 2: regulate the current emotions so you're in a great place,
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Speaker 2: so then we can do the movements and then you
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Speaker 2: can go back home and you're stressed or you're in
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Speaker 2: a shitty situation, and the pain can come back. And
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Speaker 2: that's where like sometimes you get a benefit and then
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Speaker 2: it comes back, and that's where we go, Aha, the
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Speaker 2: nervous system's not safe. Now we need to Actually it's
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Speaker 2: like a little light bulb that goes there's underlying trauma
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Speaker 2: or block stress there that we now have to release,
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Speaker 2: and when that's all gone, then the pain never comes back.
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Speaker 2: Anything short term up to six months. Really, it can
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Speaker 2: be just physical in a physical pain. Let's say I've
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Speaker 2: got a knee pain and I just keep doing squats
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Speaker 2: with an imbalanced muscles and I'm creating that inflammation all
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Speaker 2: the time, then that's also ys right. But when we're
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Speaker 2: talking about these long term standing things where it's a year,
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Speaker 2: two years, three is twenty years of just constant migraines
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Speaker 2: or constant pain. And what we have are these conditions
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Speaker 2: a lot of the time where someone will start with
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Speaker 2: IBS this is a pattern I've seen all the time.
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Speaker 2: Then they go to fibroma allergia, which is another condition
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Speaker 2: that's basically says it's pain from unknown causes right where
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Speaker 2: they have this idiopathic pain. And there's so many of
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Speaker 2: these diseases where the definition is we don't know why,
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Speaker 2: but it's just pain that we don't know in the
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Speaker 2: kidney or the bladder or the lung or the whatever. Basically,
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Speaker 2: when we see this pain, when we're trying to lean
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Speaker 2: into and go because it's quite confusing, Now it goes well,
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Speaker 2: is this pain only physical or is it from a
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Speaker 2: lack of recovery or nutrition? Or is it emotional? The
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Speaker 2: first step is we ask these questions and we go okay.
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Speaker 2: First up, has it been over six months? And is
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Speaker 2: the pain still there? If it is, then that's one
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Speaker 2: little tick where we go, oh, this could be solely emotional.
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Speaker 2: Next is does my pain sort of switch and change
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Speaker 2: sides or change positions if I'm completely present in the moment,
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Speaker 2: does it go away or does some days when I'm calm?
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Speaker 2: Is it up and down? And if we go yeah,
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Speaker 2: it does? Or there's another tick where we go hmm,
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Speaker 2: this could be again an emotional source of pain. Then
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Speaker 2: we go does it involve It started with one thing
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Speaker 2: and now I'm getting multiple pain. So I've got ibs
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Speaker 2: and now I've got knee pain, and now I've got migraines,
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Speaker 2: and it's just keeps the adding on in different areas.
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Speaker 2: You know, I didn't fall over at tennis. There was
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Speaker 2: no sort of massive start point, and they just sort
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Speaker 2: of come along. So now it's getting multiple pains on
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Speaker 2: top of each other. That again indicates us, this is
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Speaker 2: again our nervous system telling us that it's got a
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Speaker 2: lot of fear inside and that this position or what
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Speaker 2: we're doing is not safe. It's just a little oil
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Speaker 2: light again, trying to get us to listen. Listen, listen,
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Speaker 2: and we're not. And the body's basically trialing some strategies
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Speaker 2: to get you to listen. It goes ah, when I
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Speaker 2: give you pain, you seem to stop doing something. If
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Speaker 2: I've got a pain in my shoulder, what happens normally
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Speaker 2: is the pain happens, and then the muscles around the
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Speaker 2: shoulder joint will hyper contract to try and basically say
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Speaker 2: don't move that joint. You know, it'll happen in your
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Speaker 2: lower back, your QL and your so ass will squeeze
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Speaker 2: down and try and stop you from bending and moving.
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Speaker 2: It's doing that because it cares. It's trying to say
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Speaker 2: you are injuring me, stop moving, and everyone goes, I'm
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Speaker 2: just going to take extra voltare right now and still
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Speaker 2: do my movements right, still going to play stuff that's
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Speaker 2: hurting my shoulder. We obviously need to manage it. We
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Speaker 2: need to listen to that and go, Okay, this movement's
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Speaker 2: stopping me. I don't want to stop forever, but for
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Speaker 2: initial period, I need to listen to that sign. I
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Speaker 2: need to back off. I need to look and go
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Speaker 2: see someone like a physio or a carra or whatever
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Speaker 2: that manages these muscle imbalances and see whether, hey, maybe
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Speaker 2: my posture rounding over all the time is tighten these
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Speaker 2: front muscles, loosen these back muscles, and now I've got
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Speaker 2: an instability in my joint, in my shoulder or my
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Speaker 2: lower backs out because of I've been sitting over on
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Speaker 2: the side like this and now one side's tighter. You know,
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Speaker 2: there's so many physical causes. But when we have these
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Speaker 2: hyper pain and this is the cool thing to know
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Speaker 2: that function posture doesn't equal pain. If you go into
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Speaker 2: a physio and you show them an MRI, you come
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Speaker 2: over and you've got this massive posture like this, they'll
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Speaker 2: be like, Okay, so you've got impingement. We can see
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Speaker 2: that your burs is inflamed, and you've got winging scapula.
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Speaker 2: There's the reason, and it's not always the reason. It
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Speaker 2: is not great, and we'd like to reverse that, but
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Speaker 2: it doesn't equal pain. But when we correlate that, and
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Speaker 2: to the same part, there's been studies that show that
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Speaker 2: I think it's sixty five percent of people without back
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Speaker 2: pain have bulging discs. Just because you've got a bulging
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Speaker 2: disc and we do a scan and you've got a
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Speaker 2: disc and you might have lower back pain at the moment,
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Speaker 2: that's correlation. It doesn't equal why the pain is there.
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Speaker 2: It just says you might have had that bulging disc
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Speaker 2: for twenty years. We don't know. And also we have
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Speaker 2: people that go through back pain where you know, I've
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Speaker 2: been through back pain before where I couldn't walk for
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Speaker 2: a week and then all of a sudden it's better.
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Speaker 2: Just so happened to happen at a really high stress
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Speaker 2: financial time. But regardless, did my bulging disks stop then no,
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Speaker 2: it's probably still bulging. So what is the cause of
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Speaker 2: this pain? Right, It's not always equal to function. That's
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Speaker 2: what we see and the studies sort of back that up.
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Speaker 2: And there's another really cool study that shows the number
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Speaker 2: one way, like if you're going to just try and
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Speaker 2: look at a scan like an mr RYE or whatever
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Speaker 2: and go, is this person in pain? Whether it's the
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Speaker 2: top sports doctors or physios, the stat says that they're
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Speaker 2: about fifty to fifty on. So it's about as good
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Speaker 2: as a guess that going based on these scans, not
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Speaker 2: looking at the patient, not talking to the patient, are
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Speaker 2: they in pain? But the number one way to tell
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Speaker 2: if somebody is in pain is by doing a scan
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Speaker 2: on there. It's basically the little part in the midbrain
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Speaker 2: that responds it to our alert system in the brain
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Speaker 2: that's basically to stress. When we analyze that the activity,
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Speaker 2: you can get up to about an eighty three eighty
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Speaker 2: five percent accuracy on is that person going to be
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Speaker 2: feeling pain at the moment. That study also gives us
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Speaker 2: more evidence to say pain equals a stressed nervous system.
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Speaker 2: Pain equals fear in the nervous system, Pain equals I'm
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Speaker 2: not safe. Pain equals that I'm going through an emotional
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Speaker 2: state where I'm not listening back into the body and
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Speaker 2: the body is saying what you're doing isn't safe right now,
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Speaker 2: whether it's nutritionally the food or whatever, but it's still
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Speaker 2: remembering that pain. Just using examples of clients, generalized examples.
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Speaker 2: But sometimes I will go back into past situations, and
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Speaker 2: once that past situation is now safe and able to
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Speaker 2: be filed away by the brain, the pain goes. Sometimes
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Speaker 2: we can go into a situation where it actually I
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Speaker 2: was going through an emotional situation at that time, and
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Speaker 2: I remember having this huge pasta meal. All of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: we go in make that reframe that allow that to
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Speaker 2: be safe and take away that tiger, and all of
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Speaker 2: a sudden, their gluten insensitivity goes away. And it's like,
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Speaker 2: what the hell is that that is? Because it's an
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Speaker 2: unsafe stressed or the block stress that's been stuck in
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Speaker 2: the body is now causing us to be unsafe, which
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Speaker 2: causes a lot of times pain in response.
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Speaker 1: It's so fascinating. I have a question. I'd love to
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Speaker 1: know your opinion around it, because I one hundred percent
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Speaker 1: believe there is a time and place for certain medications
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Speaker 1: and whatever. But I do think we're living in a
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Speaker 1: society where as soon as there's any type of pain
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Speaker 1: it's just like straight to the doctors, take this tablet,
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah, even like basically like Panadole and Europe
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Speaker 1: and Voltaire and Excepta and I've taken it. I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying I'm fully against it, But what's your opinion around
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Speaker 1: all of that? Like how can we always get this
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Speaker 1: message out there that there's always a root cause? And
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Speaker 1: when do you think is the time and place? Like
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming you don't ever take panadole? What would you
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Speaker 1: do with creasy headache on migraine?
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Speaker 2: So this is what we want to do, right is
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Speaker 2: let's say I do an injury right away, There's going
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Speaker 2: to be great inflammation in that area. And our job
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Speaker 2: is if I want to make that recovery period faster,
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Speaker 2: I want to limit the amount of inflammation that's created.
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Speaker 2: I also want to listen in and go, okay, I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to keep moving my body in that area,
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Speaker 2: so straight away I should stop the activity. A lot
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Speaker 2: of times the muscular contraction there, you know, like say
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Speaker 2: if I pull the humorous up into the arm sock,
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Speaker 2: it will make it hard to move. So I got
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Speaker 2: to listen to that and say, okay, stop moving my arm,
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Speaker 2: Like this, then I want to add ice to it
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Speaker 2: to reduce the inflammation. Then I would also get people
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Speaker 2: on pay any inflammatories for that first day or two,
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Speaker 2: because we wanted to minimize the inflammation because however much
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Speaker 2: inflammation is left, the immune system has to go in
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Speaker 2: and eat that inflammation up before it can start to heal.
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Speaker 2: And so there is certain times where medication is brilliant.
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Speaker 2: And in regards to just a simple headache, if I
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Speaker 2: don't normally get headaches, and I've got a lot on
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Speaker 2: today and I need to be thinking clearly, take panadol,
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Speaker 2: you know, like that may help. And if it does, fantastic,
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Speaker 2: but don't just keeping it taking it every day from
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Speaker 2: now on. That's not the cause of your issue, the
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Speaker 2: deficiency and panadole, but it can be useful. It's the
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Speaker 2: same as coffee, right. Coffee is such a great way
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Speaker 2: to feel good. It's a me time activity, but it
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Speaker 2: equals stress. And so if I'm an anxious person and
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Speaker 2: I still drink coffee multiple times a day or I
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Speaker 2: take pre workouts, I'm just making my life worse. If
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Speaker 2: I'm an anxious person who's got pain and I continue
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Speaker 2: like life is telling me that I can't manage. I'm
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Speaker 2: not adapting to the stress of my life, So please
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Speaker 2: don't add more stress into my body because life is
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Speaker 2: showing me that I can't manage or adapt to the
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Speaker 2: ones that I'm there at the time. But if I
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Speaker 2: don't drink coffee all the time, or I choose to
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Speaker 2: have decaf most of the time on days, because there
16:47
Speaker 2: will be moments when you don't have enough sleep or
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Speaker 2: you've got extra stresses on and you're like, oh, man,
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Speaker 2: I just can't function. What a beautiful, amazing tool to
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Speaker 2: use to go say I'm going to have a coffee
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Speaker 2: today or I'm going to have three coffees today because
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Speaker 2: I'm just fucked. But then I listen in and go
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Speaker 2: I better actually try and recover. My body is telling
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Speaker 2: me I'm tired. Tired isn't normal. It means something's happening.
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Speaker 2: It only becomes normal when I believe that, Wow, I'm
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Speaker 2: just used to having it, you know. And even saying
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Speaker 2: man that the words we go, I can't do this yet,
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Speaker 2: don't talk to me. I haven't had my coffee. That
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Speaker 2: is such a victim statement. It's basically saying I am
17:24
Speaker 2: so weak and pathetic that I can't have energy without
17:28
Speaker 2: something else. People are going to hate me about this
17:29
Speaker 2: because people are really strung. I'm not anti coffee. If
17:34
Speaker 2: you're nervous, this your life is saying you're in no pain,
17:37
Speaker 2: and you're in a great place, and you've got no
17:40
Speaker 2: extra stress or anything, and you're able to regulate that
17:44
Speaker 2: fantastic or the best time to have sugar or coffee
17:48
Speaker 2: is before or after exercise because movement gets rid of
17:51
Speaker 2: our stress. Movement burns up our extra sugar. You know,
17:54
Speaker 2: after your exercise. If you're someone who's on a low
17:57
Speaker 2: carb diet, this could be the perfect time for you
17:59
Speaker 2: to have that extra sour though, or to have that
18:02
Speaker 2: big sia bowl after that, because your body doesn't need
18:05
Speaker 2: inchulin to get the sugar into your cell. The body's
18:08
Speaker 2: going to burn up that extra stress. That's why movement
18:11
Speaker 2: is such like we talk about this too ash, but
18:13
Speaker 2: we don't even exercise anymore for a body reason. We
18:16
Speaker 2: exercise it for mental health because it gets rid of
18:20
Speaker 2: the extra stress. It's like I could sit there and meditate,
18:22
Speaker 2: or I can actually just go out and bang out
18:24
Speaker 2: some weights, or there's different ways to regulate our body
18:27
Speaker 2: and moving. It is incredible way one hundred percent.
18:31
Speaker 1: I always try and teach my eight year old son.
18:33
Speaker 1: We get to have a toolbox. It's like this invisible toolbox,
18:36
Speaker 1: and we get to learn different ways to help us.
18:38
Speaker 1: And I remember hearing as a holistic psychologist because I
18:41
Speaker 1: always I know, for the last how many years, I'm like, oh,
18:43
Speaker 1: I just want to always I want to meditate, and
18:45
Speaker 1: I want to always breathe when I'm stressed. And I
18:47
Speaker 1: remember she did post saying that, yes, breathing is fantastic
18:50
Speaker 1: and it's so good for so many reasons, and it
18:52
Speaker 1: definitely serves us place and we could all be doing
18:54
Speaker 1: more of it. We all should be doing more of it. However,
18:56
Speaker 1: she's saying for her type of personality, when she's really
18:59
Speaker 1: stressed or worried or anxious, the first thing for her
19:02
Speaker 1: to do is actually do some kind of high intensity exercise.
19:05
Speaker 1: It's like a brisk walk, a run, punch a boxing bag,
19:07
Speaker 1: punch a pillow and move that energy first. And then
19:11
Speaker 1: she's like, that regulates her to be able to really
19:14
Speaker 1: drop into a beautiful meditation. And that changed my life.
19:17
Speaker 1: And I've really noticed with Taj when he's got high
19:19
Speaker 1: emotions and he's really angry or frustrated. I'm like, let's
19:23
Speaker 1: go for a walk, let's jump on your bike, because
19:25
Speaker 1: I can't reason or talk to him while he's in
19:27
Speaker 1: that state. The moment we're out of nature sunshine and
19:30
Speaker 1: is moving his body, then we can chat about it.
19:32
Speaker 1: Such a cool tool. We're so passionate about health and fitness,
19:36
Speaker 1: I suppose, but it's something that's just at our fingertips
19:38
Speaker 1: and can be used for so many things.
19:40
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Any parents out there that have got
19:43
Speaker 2: children with maybe diagnosed don't mean they've got extra energy
19:45
Speaker 2: or ADHD. Giving them that toolbox of listening in and
19:49
Speaker 2: going I feel like I've got a lot of energy
19:50
Speaker 2: at the moment. Mum, good use that move and let's
19:54
Speaker 2: do it in nature as well, because we've got these
19:56
Speaker 2: negative ions at the oceanal or ground your feet into
19:59
Speaker 2: grass or see it. Yes, listen and move it and
20:02
Speaker 2: use it. And then they'll be like, oh, I actually
20:04
Speaker 2: just want to move.
20:06
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and most kids do want to move and huh.
20:08
Speaker 1: This is something I feel like. I wish topics like
20:10
Speaker 1: this were discussed in school. It makes me so sad
20:13
Speaker 1: that so many parents are doing the best that they can,
20:15
Speaker 1: but they just don't have the knowledge. They don't have
20:17
Speaker 1: the tools, they don't have the resources. Like I think
20:19
Speaker 1: back to my mum, like she didn't have coaches and
20:21
Speaker 1: YouTube and you know, podcasts and all this information at
20:24
Speaker 1: a finger tips. Is so much we can do for
20:26
Speaker 1: ourselves and for our kids. And yeah, once again, movement,
20:29
Speaker 1: Like so many kids just have so much built up
20:31
Speaker 1: energy that if they can just move, it helps release
20:34
Speaker 1: it and then they can be regulated.
20:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you instead of getting them to move,
20:39
Speaker 2: they get on their iPad or whatever and they're flicking
20:41
Speaker 2: through YouTube shorts or TikTok or whatever, and it's got
20:45
Speaker 2: in creating an excess glutamate amount. And then they come
20:47
Speaker 2: off it and they're like, every kid is a little
20:49
Speaker 2: tosser after they get off those little devices.
20:51
Speaker 1: Right, It's so true, and.
20:56
Speaker 2: You'll let you should just be like, get off and
20:57
Speaker 2: move and then you can come talk to me.
20:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, honey, do you do exactly that? The kids come
21:01
Speaker 1: home from school and they all just want to chill.
21:03
Speaker 1: They all say like we want to watch iPad and
21:05
Speaker 1: we're like, sweet, you guys do it. We'll make lunches,
21:08
Speaker 1: get everything ready, and then every single night we either
21:10
Speaker 1: go for like a big walk or a big bike ride,
21:12
Speaker 1: because they do they need to move their bodies. Yeah,
21:14
Speaker 1: and you've got a trampoline as well. I don't know
21:16
Speaker 1: if you have a trampoline LEVI, but man, a trampoline
21:18
Speaker 1: is worth its money in gold physically getting a child.
21:21
Speaker 1: Even me like jumping. It moves so much energy, but
21:25
Speaker 1: it also taps into like really playful, fun silly energy. Yeah,
21:28
Speaker 1: we use it every single day. Yeah, it does something
21:31
Speaker 1: to your body. I don't know if there's any science
21:32
Speaker 1: behind that, but jumping is so many women say they
21:36
Speaker 1: can't do that anymore. Yeah, every time it's like I'm
21:38
Speaker 1: gonna wear my pants.
21:39
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a lot. Yeah. Yeah. The three number one
21:43
Speaker 2: ways that the research says that we can regulate our
21:46
Speaker 2: emotions in mind and thoughts with our body is breathing
21:49
Speaker 2: deep breathing in the belly using that vagus nerve. We've
21:52
Speaker 2: got humming or singing, and touch. They're the top three
21:55
Speaker 2: where we're using body up regulation of our body. But
21:59
Speaker 2: movement for me, I think they've either missed that in
22:02
Speaker 2: the research. Jumping makes sense to me as well. Any
22:04
Speaker 2: sort of percussion or movement or anything that gets that
22:07
Speaker 2: out is.
22:07
Speaker 1: Essential I feel like everyone listening is going to get
22:09
Speaker 1: so much out of that, yeap, And just like such
22:11
Speaker 1: a huge reminder to tune in when things are happening,
22:14
Speaker 1: when pain is showing up, or you're feeling certain ways,
22:17
Speaker 1: ask yourself those questions like oh okay, even around periods,
22:20
Speaker 1: I feel like I just know so many other women
22:22
Speaker 1: struggle with that, taking it a bit slower, not overbooking
22:25
Speaker 1: ourself that week of the month, and yeah, tuning in
22:28
Speaker 1: asking yourself some question. I love here you use the
22:31
Speaker 1: little oil symbol. It's like almost like an alert on
22:33
Speaker 1: your phone, Like when you have pain, there's obviously information
22:37
Speaker 1: or stress in your body. It's like use that as
22:38
Speaker 1: your little messenger. It's like, hey, something's not right. And
22:41
Speaker 1: like I take panadal sometimes as well, but whenever I
22:44
Speaker 1: take the panet, I'm still wanting to know, Okay, how
22:46
Speaker 1: much water have I drank? Where's my nervous system?
22:48
Speaker 2: At?
22:48
Speaker 1: Am I really stressed? Did I get quality sleep last night? Gosh?
22:51
Speaker 1: What time to go to bed? Oh shit, I was
22:53
Speaker 1: on my emails till eleven o'clock. Like I want to
22:54
Speaker 1: get to the root of it to then, you know,
22:56
Speaker 1: try and learn and do better the next day. So
22:59
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, once again tuning in, getting ground and connecting.
23:02
Speaker 1: And I feel like we're in such a hustle, hustle,
23:04
Speaker 1: go go go, so fast paced society that that's half
23:07
Speaker 1: the problem. We're not actually taking an allowing time to
23:10
Speaker 1: stop so true check in and be like, ah, how
23:13
Speaker 1: do I feel like what's actually going on for me?
23:15
Speaker 1: But we just keep going. Take the panatal like, take this,
23:19
Speaker 1: and just then we create a story. That's just how
23:21
Speaker 1: life is. Life's just busy life, just dress well, I
23:23
Speaker 1: just get headaches. I've had my whole life, and you
23:26
Speaker 1: become victim to your pain, and that's just not how
23:28
Speaker 1: anyone wants to live. It's not so thank you so
23:30
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. We really really appreciate your
23:32
Speaker 1: time and your wisdom and your knowledge. It's just yeah,
23:36
Speaker 1: once again, feel very very lucky to have you on
23:38
Speaker 1: board today and hopefully we'll have you back one day.
23:40
Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you so much, Leve. I learned so
23:43
Speaker 1: much then. And where can everyone come and follow you?
23:45
Speaker 1: What's your handle on Instagram?
23:47
Speaker 2: Instagram is at the Mind Bodyguy.
23:50
Speaker 1: We also Levi and I have a joint podcast called
23:52
Speaker 1: The Conscious Living Parents. And even though it's called The
23:55
Speaker 1: Conscious Living Parents. I think a lot of people think
23:56
Speaker 1: it's just around parenting, which a lot of it is,
23:58
Speaker 1: but the actual title is us being conscious living parents
24:03
Speaker 1: with messages we want to get out to the world
24:05
Speaker 1: and conversations we want to have. So if you want
24:07
Speaker 1: more of Levi, he has a Conscious Living Parents and
24:09
Speaker 1: he also has a podcast that's just around Amend's mental
24:12
Speaker 1: health as well, So plenty of places you can connect
24:14
Speaker 1: with Levi and learn more from him. Yeah, thank you
24:17
Speaker 1: so much.
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Speaker 2: Absolute pleasure.