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- 0:00Hello and welcome to the show. Apologies for the noise in the
- 0:04background because I'm not in the audio booth today.
- 0:07Now today I want us to look at how to use feedback and the
- 0:10qualification to close deals. Yes, I know there's some
- 0:14technical standing stuff there, but don't worry, we're going to
- 0:16define that in a moment. But why do I want us to look at
- 0:20this today? It's because I had a previous
- 0:23interaction with someone who does graphic design.
- 0:26Now, this was something that happened, I don't know, maybe
- 0:30three, 3-4 months ago. And for some reason I just
- 0:34remembered it today and I figured, OK, there's some
- 0:36lessons that we can learn here. So let me just hop on the
- 0:38microphone real quick and sort this out.
- 0:41Now, I was talking to a graphic designer because I needed a
- 0:44banner for my LinkedIn, my LinkedIn page.
- 0:49Now the banner is for those of you who have LinkedIn, YouTube,
- 0:54and I think what's that one the one that grab people have
- 0:58Pinterest, yes. So for Pinterest, YouTube and
- 1:03LinkedIn, the banner is the part behind it's just the huge
- 1:08rectangle that is behind the the your profile picture, yes,
- 1:13behind your profile picture. And it's one of those things
- 1:15that you can optimize, you know, make it look nice and pretty and
- 1:18you can use it strategically to help you convert more business
- 1:22or get people to do certain things when they come to your
- 1:26profile. Now, since I've been spending a
- 1:28lot of time on LinkedIn and I've gotten rid of all the other
- 1:31social media, I figured, you know, time must come.
- 1:34It's time for me to, you know, to shop my my LinkedIn page,
- 1:40look everything, look all nice and make everything look
- 1:42correct. Because if you go check my
- 1:44LinkedIn handle right now, you know, to be frank, you want to
- 1:47see my profile picture there. OK, I have to change it because
- 1:50that one is old. That's one where I had just
- 1:53shaved my mustache and, and I've grown it back.
- 1:57So I need to change it. Then for the LinkedIn banner,
- 2:03that part was just open, nothing there.
- 2:06So what it is, I just took the logo of this podcast and then I,
- 2:10I put it there. But either way, it's not
- 2:11something that I've been doing consciously.
- 2:14So I, this guy reached out to me, I wanted to do some design
- 2:20work and I was like, oh, OK, I need a LinkedIn banner to be
- 2:25designed. So that's how we started off the
- 2:29conversation. So I hold on or let me see where
- 2:32are my notes? I made some notes.
- 2:34I just don't forget the hardest thing went well.
- 2:38So anyway, so we started discussing now and summary, the
- 2:44whole thing just turned out to be unproductive because we had a
- 2:47small quarrel at the end of the day.
- 2:50In fact, some people might even say a big quarrel because even
- 2:53though it was a small issue, the thing was he didn't quite
- 2:56understand what I wanted to do with the LinkedIn banner.
- 2:59And he didn't even understand what a LinkedIn banner was
- 3:03because he provided some designs and the designs were wonderful,
- 3:08more than adequate, but he just designed what I did not ask him
- 3:14to design. So even though it was a
- 3:15wonderful design, it was not fit for purpose.
- 3:18It was of no use to me, and it was definitely was not what I
- 3:21wanted. And so that's how it turned out
- 3:23to be an unproductive engagement.
- 3:27Now, from that interaction, we're going to come up with some
- 3:30tips for service professionals to prevent this kind of
- 3:34miscommunication. Because there are some of you
- 3:37that actually are very good at your job, like this young man
- 3:40was very good at your job. But the reason why you didn't
- 3:43close the deal or you quarrel with the customer and there's
- 3:46fight and there's this and there's that.
- 3:49It's precisely because there was some miscommunication that went
- 3:52on there. And if you had the skills or the
- 3:57frameworks, the tool set to prevent that, then this could
- 4:00have turned out to be a productive engagement and you
- 4:02could have ended up closing the deal.
- 4:04So if you are a service professional listening to this
- 4:07podcast, please pay attention. So for those of you in legal,
- 4:10legal services, baby lawyers, established lawyers, pay
- 4:13attention. For those of you in medical, pay
- 4:16attention. For those of you in financial,
- 4:18you know, you're a wealth advisor, you're a money coach or
- 4:21you're an accountant. Pay attention.
- 4:23For those of you in engineering, pay attention.
- 4:25Architects, IT consultants, business consultants, creatives,
- 4:31hairdresser, makeup artist, photo and video people.
- 4:34Even if you're an artisan, you know, like you Weld stuff, pay
- 4:38attention if you're a service professional because the ideas
- 4:42that we're going to discuss now are going to come in very, very
- 4:46helpful. Now, if you listen to
- 4:48yesterday's episode, the first thing we're going to talk about
- 4:51is no surprise, we're going to talk about qualification and
- 4:56discovery. Now, remember what I told?
- 4:58The main question we're trying to look at here is how to use
- 5:00feedback and qualification to close deals or to make your
- 5:04engagements much more productive every time you're having
- 5:07interactions with potential customers.
- 5:10So qualification and discovery, if you listen to yesterday's
- 5:13episode, you already know what it is.
- 5:15But if you didn't listen, let me just give a brief definition.
- 5:18That is the stage of the interaction or the business
- 5:22relationship where you are asking questions and you're
- 5:25trying to discover who the person is, what the opportunity
- 5:28is, what the problem is and how you can help.
- 5:31So you're asking open-ended questions because you're trying
- 5:33to figure out who is this guy, who is this girl, what's the
- 5:36problem that they're facing? What kind of outcome do they
- 5:38want? What kind of solution do they
- 5:39want? You know, all those sorts of
- 5:40things. Now, the reason we should bother
- 5:42with qualification and discovery is because if you don't do this,
- 5:47then you're not going to have the proper understanding that
- 5:49you need to make a relevant proposal or to provide an
- 5:54effective solution. Can you see why I'm saying
- 5:56service professionals, you all need to pay attention.
- 5:59The medical doctor, if the medical doctor does not ask you,
- 6:01oh young man, how are you? How old are you?
- 6:05Is your father alive? When did your father die?
- 6:08What brings you here today? How is your left leg?
- 6:10Do you have headache? What about your left waist?
- 6:14If he doesn't ask you all these questions, the medical doctor,
- 6:17he's not going to have all the information that he needs to
- 6:20achieve a proper understanding and to make an effective
- 6:24solution to say that, OK, look, based on all these things that
- 6:26I've asked you, just go and take Panadol, you'll be all right.
- 6:29Or based on all these things that I've asked you come into
- 6:32the hospital on Tuesday morning, we need to cut off your left
- 6:34leg. So if the medical doctor doesn't
- 6:37ask, he will not, he will not get the proper understanding
- 6:42that he needs to make an effective solution.
- 6:45It's the same thing with the lawyer.
- 6:46If the lawyer does not listen and if the lawyer does not ask
- 6:49all these questions about the person, the opportunity, the
- 6:52problem, when did the quarrel start?
- 6:54What are the stakes? How much have you lost?
- 6:56What were you hoping to gain? Who said this first?
- 6:59Who said that? What happened on March 1st?
- 7:01What happened on March 15th? If you don't ask all these
- 7:03questions, you're not going to get the proper understanding to
- 7:07make an effective solution. Now for business purposes, if
- 7:12you as the sales person does not ask all these questions,
- 7:16questions around the person, the opportunity and the problem,
- 7:20you're not going to be able to make an effective proposal.
- 7:22So a rather a relevant proposal because whatever proposal you
- 7:25make will be off point. So back to this thing that now
- 7:29happens to me with this guy when he came to designing LinkedIn
- 7:31banner, I was trying my best to OfferUp information, OfferUp
- 7:36information. But to be honest, the guy did
- 7:37not ask me any question at all. His own was just simple.
- 7:41OK, what do you want me to design?
- 7:43OK, and then I can design it. How much?
- 7:45That was the extent of his question.
- 7:48And for some of you, that is the accent of the question that you
- 7:50do. What do you want me to design?
- 7:53OK, how much? OK, and sure.
- 7:57No problem. No, it's too low at this.
- 7:59At that. OK, here's my account number.
- 8:01I think you enter into the business.
- 8:03You don't ask questions about the person or the problem, the
- 8:06opportunity, what they're trying to achieve.
- 8:09How did this problem happen in the first place?
- 8:11What is it that you like? What is it that you don't like?
- 8:13Do they even ask these sorts of questions?
- 8:15And then you now wonder, at the end of the day, why this
- 8:18quarrel? You take that thing and you show
- 8:20it to other people, other people who say this design is correct
- 8:23now, because, like I said, the design was not bad.
- 8:26It's just that the design was of no use to me.
- 8:29My guy went to go and design the kind of thing that I didn't ask
- 8:31him for and that I can use. Even though it was wonderful, it
- 8:35was spectacular. It's just that, OK, you've given
- 8:38me this thing, why am I supposed to use it now?
- 8:41What I wondered was LinkedIn banner.
- 8:43What I was describing to you was LinkedIn Banner.
- 8:45If you did not understand, you should have asked some questions
- 8:48or you should have done some research.
- 8:52So please, service professionals, it is not always
- 8:55you ask the person what do you want and then you tell them how
- 9:00much it is, then they transfer. Then you go and do the thing you
- 9:03need to ask questions, because if you ask questions about the
- 9:08person, the opportunity, the problem, Let's let's rewind.
- 9:11Let's say this guy was asking me questions.
- 9:13OK, who are you? What do you do?
- 9:15Oh, ah, you're a consultant. Hey, OK, you also have a podcast
- 9:18as well. OK, what other resources do you
- 9:20have? See, from asking that kind of
- 9:22question, you might now he might would now have gotten a sense of
- 9:25what kind of assets or what kind of information could have gone
- 9:29into the, the, what's it called? The LinkedIn banner, why you
- 9:36even change your LinkedIn banner self?
- 9:38You've been on LinkedIn for 10 years.
- 9:40You've never done anything before.
- 9:41Why are you trying to do this now?
- 9:43What are you trying to achieve? OK, you're trying to achieve
- 9:45this. You're trying to achieve that.
- 9:47See The thing is as a professional who knows your
- 9:50work, when somebody's talking and you ask them these
- 9:53questions, it will be a lot of value for you for you to even
- 9:55say, oh look boss, I understand that you said you want LinkedIn
- 9:58banner. But to be honest though, from
- 10:00what you are describing and for what you want to do, actually
- 10:03think this and this and this is what you need to work on 1st to
- 10:07achieve your goal before you start looking on LinkedIn
- 10:09banner. That's the kind of thing that
- 10:10makes somebody look at you in high esteem to say you know
- 10:13what, this graphic designer, excuse me, this graphic
- 10:16designer, this guy, he goes school, he knows his stuff.
- 10:21Hope you guys are going to see why I keep saying that having a
- 10:24sales process and following your framework is the easiest way to
- 10:27set yourself apart in Nigeria. Because at the level where we
- 10:31are now, people are freestyling, they don't have a process and so
- 10:35it's commoditized. Everybody sounds the same.
- 10:37So the moment somebody comes and is asking intelligent questions
- 10:40and is able to make some relevant proposals, you will
- 10:42know. Sharda.
- 10:43OK, Yeah, this guy is a Carpenter, but he's a Carpenter
- 10:46above other carpenters. This person is a graphic
- 10:49designer, but he's a graphic designer above other graphic
- 10:52designers. This person is a social media
- 10:56manager, but he or she is a social media manager above other
- 10:59social media managers. This is how this thing makes you
- 11:02stand out. So you should have been asking
- 11:05the questions so that you get the proper understanding, so
- 11:08that the solution, the thing that you designed, the thing
- 11:10that you present at the end of the day will be all right.
- 11:13We'll be on point. You'll be able to make an
- 11:14effective proposal. And these are the things that
- 11:16make it easier to close the deal because you make a proposal, and
- 11:21the proposal seems to speak to exactly what it is that I want.
- 11:25Of course, you'll make me hungrier to even close the deal.
- 11:27And it's the same thing with your potential clients.
- 11:29So please, those of us who are service professionals, this is
- 11:34really, really important. You sell services, not that you
- 11:37sell product. Because if you sell human hair
- 11:39and the person comes and says they want to buy human hair from
- 11:43Mogadishu and it has to be 68 inches, you know, Mogadishu is
- 11:48Mogadishu 68 inches and 68 inches.
- 11:50So you can get away with not asking any more questions.
- 11:54Although I would still recommend that you ask questions, Shah, so
- 11:56that you know the person you built from our power, from our
- 11:58power. You guys vibe a little bit
- 12:00because that's the kind of thing that I'll be able to get you to
- 12:02bring the person back, to be able to come and bind human hair
- 12:06again. Because you know how this thing
- 12:10is, you know, market goes up, market goes down.
- 12:12You know, people meet different people.
- 12:13So today as they buy from you, but tomorrow they think they
- 12:15have a sweeter deal as elsewhere also they might buy from
- 12:18somebody else. But at least you sell human
- 12:21hair. You engage in these sorts of
- 12:22conversations and somebody thinks of you as the human hair
- 12:25specialist. Next time, even if they
- 12:29attempted to not buy from you, maybe because you're more
- 12:30expensive than other people, at the very least they will call
- 12:33you and say, OK, let us hear what this person has to say
- 12:36about this particular hair, this particular week, this particular
- 12:39this. So even those of you who sell
- 12:42products, you know, you sell children's shoes, you sell human
- 12:45hair, you sell Binatone fan, you sell school bag, you sell Dust
- 12:48bean, you sell desks, you sell yams, you sell whatever it is
- 12:51you sell. This thing will help you, but
- 12:55for those of us who are service professionals, it is a cardinal
- 12:58scene for you not to use this sort of process again.
- 13:02I repeat, lawyers listen up. Doctors, accountants, engineers,
- 13:07architect, IT professionals, consultants, creative people,
- 13:11makeup artist, hairdresser, photography, video artisans,
- 13:15Whether you're a Carpenter, you're a welder because you're
- 13:17still delivering a service at the end of the day.
- 13:22These are the processes that we need to be following.
- 13:25Now, let me define the second term that I mentioned because
- 13:27remember I said we're going to use feedback and qualification
- 13:30to close deals. Now the second term was
- 13:32feedback. Feedback, OK?
- 13:36This is a term that is hard to define.
- 13:38So for the purposes of this podcast, every time you hear me
- 13:40say feedback, feedback just means did I hear you correctly
- 13:46or did I get the right information?
- 13:49So let me repeat. Every single time you hear me
- 13:51say feedback on this podcast, feedback means either or.
- 13:56It means did I hear you correctly or did I get the right
- 13:59information? The reason why we have to do
- 14:02that step. Did I hear you correctly?
- 14:04Sorry, what did you say again? So I did I understand you
- 14:07correctly. OK, Did I get the right
- 14:08information? Sorry, I thought what you were
- 14:10saying was, oh, forgive me, I misunderstood.
- 14:12I misunderstood you. Did you actually mean the reason
- 14:15why we should be doing all of this is because this is what
- 14:18will allow us to take that next step and now say, oh, OK, Bros,
- 14:23if what I heard you say was this is this and I heard you
- 14:25correctly, therefore this is what I am proposing to solve
- 14:29this problem. Therefore, this is what I'm
- 14:31proposing for you to achieve this.
- 14:33Therefore, this is what I'm proposing for you to achieve
- 14:37that. Let me repeat feedback just
- 14:40means did I hear you correctly? Did I get the right information?
- 14:44Sorry, can you, can you come again?
- 14:46Sorry, I don't think I heard you correctly.
- 14:48I thought you said this, this is, is that what you meant?
- 14:52Because if you ask all these kinds of questions and the
- 14:54person says, oh, yes, yes, this is what I said, you can now
- 14:57confidently make your proposal and your proposal or your
- 15:02presentation will be on point. So if this guy, the graphic
- 15:07designer had asked and said, oh, bro, based on what you're
- 15:11saying, oh, it sounds like you're saying this, this, this,
- 15:13this, this, this, this. If he had said that, I would now
- 15:17have said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't say that
- 15:19though. This is not what I have in mind.
- 15:21This is actually what I have in mind.
- 15:24The guy would have, now you can see how he would have prevented
- 15:27quarrel because he would have repeated what he thought I said.
- 15:31And I would have now said, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 15:32This is not what I have in mind, though.
- 15:34This is actually what I mean. And then we'll have the
- 15:38conversation back and forth. You can even see why this step
- 15:41is even much more important than the pricing thing, because you
- 15:45can be pricing one thing, but because you understood rubbish,
- 15:49you collect the money and you deliver and then this total
- 15:52quarrel. So this feedback stage is
- 15:55really, really important feedback before you make the
- 15:59proposal. So bro, is this what I heard you
- 16:02say, Madam? Is this exactly what you had in
- 16:06mind or Wi-Fi? Based on what you have said, if
- 16:09I'm understanding correctly, what you're trying to achieve is
- 16:12this, this, this you're seeking for feedback and you hear what
- 16:15the person has to say. Now, no matter the answer that
- 16:18the person gives, the answer is a good answer.
- 16:23If the person says, Oh yes, yes, you understood me correctly,
- 16:25your own point. So what do you have for me?
- 16:28That's a good answer. If the person says no, that is
- 16:31not what I had in mind, that is also a good answer because it is
- 16:35better that you find out now that for you to negotiate.
- 16:39You now collect money, you deliver what the person thinks
- 16:42is rubbish even though he did a good job.
- 16:45And then at the end of the day you're having to do a second, a
- 16:48second attempt and now you're losing money.
- 16:53So it doesn't matter what answer the person gives at the feedback
- 16:55stage, any answer they give is a good answer.
- 16:58If they say yes, all well and good, go ahead.
- 17:00If they say no, then you ask more questions and try and get
- 17:05some more feedback. Oh, sorry, your boyfriend.
- 17:08Sorry, it's my fault. I didn't quite understand.
- 17:10Well, sorry, I begged. We'll just just we'll repeat it
- 17:13again. No time that you said this,
- 17:14this, this, did you mean this? And then the conversation starts
- 17:19again and you're trying to figure out who's your boyfriend,
- 17:22What's the problem? What is your boyfriend trying to
- 17:25achieve? If you're doing something that
- 17:27is technical, you know what are the he's not asking specific
- 17:31questions about the technical parameters and stuff like that.
- 17:34So that's what this guy should have done.
- 17:36I tried my best to volunteer all the information that I thought I
- 17:40needed. But The thing is, I am an
- 17:43ordinary person. I am not a graphic artist.
- 17:47How am I supposed to know all the information that is
- 17:49required? This is the reason why we should
- 17:53be asking questions, because you are the specialist.
- 17:55You're the one who knows what is required.
- 17:57If the medical doctor just sits down based on what I say, he now
- 18:02prescribes a treatment. Of course, we end up doing
- 18:05something that is that is totally messed up, something
- 18:07that is wrong. The medical doctor is a
- 18:09specialist. That is the reason why the
- 18:10medical doctor is going to ask questions.
- 18:13An example I've given on the podcast, when I was a younger
- 18:15man, I had one problem. My leg was dreaming one kind and
- 18:20was getting real bad. So I went to the hospital to go
- 18:23and see the man, the doctor. So from talking to the doctor
- 18:30now, the doctor is not asking me questions about my armpit.
- 18:32And I'm wondering from where to where I think the problem is
- 18:35with my my leg. It's not asking me a question
- 18:37about my armpit. I say yes, yeah, I do have this
- 18:40boil in my armpit. And was it small something, you
- 18:43know, you know, back in those days anyway, you know, God is
- 18:46wonderful. He's one that saves children.
- 18:48So back in those days, all we used to do was I think there's
- 18:51something called, is it like Ampiclox or something?
- 18:53This thing comes in the capsule. So if you had a boil somewhere
- 18:56on your body, I don't even know who taught us this rubbish.
- 18:59We'll go and buy the Ampiclox. The capsule will now cut the
- 19:02thing inside too, the powder that is inside, you know, while
- 19:05pour it inside your wound. So that's what we used to do
- 19:07back then in the secondary school.
- 19:10In fact, we used to bring them Epiclock stuff.
- 19:12I don't even know. I don't even know if it's
- 19:13Epiclock. But anyway, sure, if people are
- 19:16still doing that kind of rubbish in in this day and age, please
- 19:19stop it right now. You don't know what you're
- 19:21pouring inside your body and you don't know anyway, please no
- 19:26self medication. Always go and see a doctor.
- 19:28So I told the guy what I was doing.
- 19:29I know. Is it a small something?
- 19:30Now? I took Panadol, I opened armpit
- 19:32clocks, I poured inside my armpit.
- 19:35And the doctor said, oh, that's the problem, that there's a
- 19:38something medial nerve that translates to bilateral
- 19:41something, something, something, something, something.
- 19:43The problem is not with your leg.
- 19:44The problem is with your armpit. So whatever it is you're
- 19:48pointing inside your armpit, stop it.
- 19:50Take these antibiotics instead. We'll take to all these
- 19:52injections, blah, blah. Come back and check me in three
- 19:54days. And I came back and my leg was
- 19:56fine. As a layman who knows nothing
- 20:00about medicine, I thought the problem was my leg.
- 20:03I didn't know that the problem was my armpit on the opposite
- 20:07side of my body that was causing problems with my leg.
- 20:11So you're the professional. You're the one who knows the
- 20:13questions that you need to ask, which is why our service
- 20:17professionals, you should be asking the questions.
- 20:19If you're a graphic artist, don't assume that the person
- 20:23knows the right information to offer to get the job done.
- 20:27Do your thing, ask the questions.
- 20:31So this is the reason why qualification is important.
- 20:34This is the reason why feedback is important.
- 20:39After you get through the feedback stage of did I hear you
- 20:42correctly? Did I get this information
- 20:44right? OK, Based on what you said, I'm
- 20:47assuming that what you know, what you're saying is this is
- 20:50this after you get past that and you get to now stage of OK, if
- 20:56everything ahead is correct, this is what I'm proposing.
- 20:59You don't ask for feedback again.
- 21:00Are you cool with that? Are you good with that?
- 21:04Is this something you can afford?
- 21:05Do you think this is going to be able to give you the results
- 21:08that you're talking about? How soon Are you ready to move
- 21:10forward? What else?
- 21:12You know, you seek feedback again.
- 21:17I remember whatever answer the person gives is a good answer.
- 21:22If the person says yes, it's a good answer.
- 21:24Next thing is you now send the person your OPA accounts, let
- 21:27them transfer to your account. If the person says I'm not quite
- 21:32sure it is good that the person has said that, Now you now know
- 21:36that you either didn't understand the situation
- 21:38correctly and it didn't make you to have an effective proposal.
- 21:42So you now know that you need to start the process all over again
- 21:45of asking questions, trying to figure out what's going on, make
- 21:47the adequate proposal, or maybe you guys have a mismatch around
- 21:50money. But either way, you don't know
- 21:52that. OK, there's a problem that needs
- 21:54to be resolved. So these are the ways that we
- 21:59can use qualification and feedback to close more deals
- 22:02because our proposal will be on point, the client will feel
- 22:06listened to, and they will feel that they have a competent
- 22:10professional working with them. Most importantly, I don't know
- 22:16about you guys, but he really used to piss me off.
- 22:18When I collect money, I deliver and then we now start
- 22:21quarreling. I hate that kind of thing.
- 22:24Back in my event days, I like the one that I collect good
- 22:27money, I deliver the job. They look at it and they're
- 22:30like, oh, this is fantastic, this is wonderful, oh, you're
- 22:32the best, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 22:34That's the one that I like the most.
- 22:36I really, really hated. We finished and then this
- 22:38quarrel, if I had one situation, I had delivered the album, that
- 22:42was quarrel when I had to take the album back to the shop for
- 22:47the guys to take apart the album because there's one problematic
- 22:51page and then we hook up the whole thing.
- 22:54Anyway, that's the story for another day since we're already
- 22:56at 20 minutes. So let me just bring it to a
- 22:58close here. So this is how we use feedback.
- 23:00This is how we use qualification to close more deals, to make
- 23:03sure that our customers are happy, to make sure that after
- 23:06we deliver, there is no quarrel. This thing is for everybody,
- 23:09even for people who sell human hair or baby diapers or
- 23:12children's shoes, or even if you sell cars or washing machine,
- 23:17but it is more happy. Most important for those of you
- 23:22who sell services, if you're an accountant, please go through
- 23:25this process so you know what it is your client is trying to
- 23:29achieve. If you're a wealth manager, go
- 23:30through this process so you know what your client is trying to
- 23:33achieve before you recommend something that even though it
- 23:36yields growth in their portfolio, but it didn't yield
- 23:40the growth in the part of the portfolio that matters most to
- 23:42them. Same thing if you're an you're
- 23:46an engineer or you're an architect or you're a
- 23:49hairdresser. In fact, if you're a
- 23:52hairdresser, you need to ask these questions.
- 23:54If you're going to do Sade before, I don't know if it's
- 23:57called Sade. I think Sade is the one where
- 23:59something will come and cover the person's eye.
- 24:01You need to know which part of the person's face they think is
- 24:04their best side, whether left or right, before you do the Sade.
- 24:06And the Sade will cover the right, but the person thinks
- 24:09that the finest side of their face is the opposite side.
- 24:15OK, 30 minutes, then bring it to a close.
- 24:17So thank you guys very much for your time and attention.
- 24:20If you'd love to connect with me for a strategy session or a
- 24:23business audit or you have questions you want me to answer,
- 24:25the phone number is 08064662140. The country code is +234.
- 24:32That's my WhatsApp number. Then connect with me on
- 24:35LinkedIn. The name to look for is
- 24:37Tavishima Aede. I have a YouTube channel of the
- 24:40same name as well. So thanks for your time and
- 24:42attention. I'll catch you guys at the next
- 24:43episode.