Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / Women Are Generally Shy In Bed (But Porn Makes You Think That's Unusual/Bad)
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- 0:05Hi, everybody, and welcome to the dr.
- 0:07Psych mom, show, today, I'm going to talk about how women
- 0:11are actually pretty shy in bed usually and why men don't think
- 0:16this I puts right there in the headline, it's poor.
- 0:19And I believe that makes men not think that women are generally
- 0:23shy in bed, that's used to be taken as a defining principle of
- 0:28life and marriage. But no longer and I'll be
- 0:31talking about how I see this manifest right after Tell you to
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- 1:27anyhow. So moving on to the topic at
- 1:30hand. So a lot of guys nowadays more
- 1:34so than the you Stu come in and there's like this idea that
- 1:38women if there's guys that they really like women are like sex
- 1:45fiends and then the guy ends up with like this worst version of
- 1:51the wife. That's just like not really into
- 1:53him because she just viewed him as like a breadwinner or like
- 1:56something or other. And that is why she's not like a
- 1:59wildcat in the sack and this is just like wrong wrong wrong.
- 2:05The wrong. I mean, sure, there is likes
- 2:07women that have wild phases and have done quote, Wild Things
- 2:12usually when they're wasted when they're young and are
- 2:16experimenting most women, the majority of women will also do
- 2:21those same things with you. When you were first dating,
- 2:24whatever it is that they used to do, they'll probably do with you
- 2:27if they if they won't you know, I have a whole podcast about
- 2:31when women refuse to do something about that they used
- 2:33to do with other guys which is fucked.
- 2:35Uh Polly. I will grant you that you know,
- 2:37and I talk about that they are, but that's not the usual
- 2:41situation. The usual situation is that
- 2:44there were a few Wilder things that your wife used to do back
- 2:47when you were first dating because of the honeymoon, phase
- 2:49on her adrenaline, and her hormone pump hormones puppet
- 2:53through her system. But then after that, she got shy
- 2:57like because her hormone levels and her adrenaline receded, it
- 3:01was like she was drunk. Kind of all the time, I'm
- 3:03probably she was drunk, a lot of the time Andrea.
- 3:05Life. But during those early dates, he
- 3:08drink a lot, but anyhow like she was drunk on hormone.
- 3:12She was drunk on Energy, new relationship energy, it's called
- 3:16limerence infatuation and so yeah, she did some Wilder stuff,
- 3:20but then now she's more shy. So women are more shy in bed.
- 3:26They don't have that, raging level of testosterone ever,
- 3:29although testosterone is also responsible in concert with the
- 3:33other sex hormones. For women are estrogen and
- 3:36progesterone. Testosterone is also a big one
- 3:39for sex, not just in men, but in women, as well, which is why I
- 3:42advise people to have sex in the morning.
- 3:44So that's when testosterone peaks is, is 6 a.m. for both
- 3:47genders. But the point is here, women do
- 3:51not usually get into this, like, massively turned on state, where
- 3:57they're completely uninhibited without a lot of foreplay and a
- 4:03lot of mental, Effort and things going really well in the
- 4:08relationship. Women is inhibition levels are
- 4:11higher than those of men. This used to be considered
- 4:15totally normal, you know? But then what I think happened
- 4:20this is just my pet theory, is that men inundated their brains
- 4:24and rewire them with constant internet porn.
- 4:27And in porn women don't have any inhibitions and some guys say
- 4:33they only watch The Amateur stuff.
- 4:35That a lot. Okay, cool.
- 4:37Do you know that? Like a woman who's willing to
- 4:40videotape herself? Having sex is really unusual.
- 4:45Like no you don't. I'm telling you that in this
- 4:47podcast though trust me like that is like .001 percent of
- 4:52women that would you know allow a videotape of them having sex
- 4:57to be on the internet. Think about it I think your
- 5:00rational side knows I'm right. You know I mean it like okay so
- 5:04guys As yeah, marriage is has always been tough but like, it
- 5:08was a little less tough when guys assumed that women just had
- 5:11a lower sex drive than they do. Like no shit.
- 5:14Like that's biology now I think because guys see all these women
- 5:19including like MILFs and like all these like, you know,
- 5:23married women and shit on the hotwives, so whatever, they
- 5:27think it's real. Like they think that there's
- 5:29really like a large large percent of women who are
- 5:33completely uninhibited Bed and it's not real.
- 5:38It's like not true. Women are more shy and awkward.
- 5:41They were trying to be good girls, they were not trained to
- 5:44like, you know, fantasize or masturbate.
- 5:47Men are constantly shocked. When I see that, a lot of women
- 5:50don't masturbate and don't fantasize.
- 5:53Despite that this is true and real.
- 5:55Most women don't really touch their vagina.
- 5:58They really don't. They they don't really know much
- 6:02about it, you know, they probably would be able to To
- 6:05pick shit out on a little diagram, but that's because they
- 6:08read Cosmo. The majority of women are not
- 6:11like, just just like inundating their set themselves with with
- 6:16sexual thoughts and talk and research, they're just not, they
- 6:20feel awkward and anxious and shy around it and they don't have
- 6:25like that super high resting state of a sex drive to like
- 6:30make them want to push past that, you know, like they don't
- 6:34have a deep. Didn't yearning for sex
- 6:36biologically, that would make them have to want to research
- 6:40things, or explore things, or look up ways to, you know, have
- 6:45different positions and bed or whatever the case may be.
- 6:48So guys used to take that as like normal.
- 6:50Like, okay, yeah, this is my wife with my wife.
- 6:53We are basically just going to have, you know, normal sex like
- 6:57missionary and maybe a couple other things guys didn't even
- 7:00used to expect oral from their wives, like, talk to talk to
- 7:04somebody in your Ads generation. If you're a man listening to
- 7:07this, you know, I mean people did not really expect their
- 7:10wives to do crazy shit in bet. They assume that most quote good
- 7:14girls didn't really do that. And, you know, that was to the
- 7:19detriment. It like like everything, there's
- 7:21pluses and negatives because for like super high sex drive women,
- 7:24they don't want to be put into a box of somebody who has a low
- 7:27sex drive like they want to be doing adventurous things and so
- 7:31you know but of course in that case, they could always just say
- 7:34that you Oh, and and then things would go find unless you're
- 7:37partnered with the low libido, man.
- 7:39But, you know, there's some women who are like, no, like,
- 7:42I'm like super adventurous and yet totally, there are women
- 7:45like that who are like, don't put me in a box of a boring wife
- 7:48but my job is to kind of also help normalize what I usually
- 7:52see and what I usually see at least two thirds of the time are
- 7:56men who feel that there's some way to like unlock this porn
- 8:00star potential and their wives. And like there is not like you
- 8:04can get You totally get better in bed, you could totally
- 8:08introduce her to some new things.
- 8:10You could definitely, definitely increase foreplay.
- 8:14You could understand that she has other erogenous zones that
- 8:16aren't her vagina. You could go back and listen to
- 8:19my oral sex on women, subscriber episode and the ones on on
- 8:24sexual technique in general. But there are not massive
- 8:30amount, like, like other guys are having the same issues as
- 8:34you like. There are not a lot of women who
- 8:37are just like throwing themselves on their husbands,
- 8:41sexually the minute, the guy walks in the door, that's porn
- 8:44stuff. And I actually think that the
- 8:46amateur stuff is more, you know, it's more Insidious because it
- 8:51makes guys think that there's all these women that are out
- 8:55there playing out these hotwife fantasies on.
- 8:57The regular there are certainly, I am the first to say women have
- 9:02a fast, sexual potential often unexpected.
- 9:05Explored and unknown because they as I've written and spoken
- 9:09about have never had good sex. Don't know how to ask for and
- 9:11the guy doesn't know what it is either.
- 9:13So I'm in no way saying that you shouldn't research, how to be a
- 9:17better lover and be more open with your wife about your
- 9:22desires, and if your woman listening to this, you know,
- 9:25read up erotic stories and read up on researching, your own body
- 9:30and the book come as you are, people like things like that,
- 9:34but This is to kind of make make sense of the world.
- 9:39If you are a man who thinks that like your sex life is kind of
- 9:44boring. And you think that's like
- 9:46unusual because you have an unusually inhibited wife, you
- 9:52got to really do some more research before concluding that
- 9:55because honestly, she may be like the majority of women who
- 10:00just want a man to kind of take over the quote No labor.
- 10:05Ironically, of because women are always talking about wanting,
- 10:08the, you know, the guy to take over emotional labor.
- 10:11But in this case, it really is true.
- 10:13If you're the one with the high sex drive, you got to take over
- 10:17the emotional labor of figuring out how and what could make your
- 10:22sex drive better. Because women naturally feel shy
- 10:25talking about this stuff, they feel awkward.
- 10:28So, like a lot of them don't fantasize, but a lot of them do
- 10:31and just feel super awkward talking about it and that's
- 10:34totally Normal for the lower sex drive partner in a relationship,
- 10:38even if the woman has a high sex drive usually it's still not as
- 10:41high as the guys and also she feels weirder talking about
- 10:44fantasies and stuff because it isn't supposed to be something
- 10:48that good girls do. And it isn't something that
- 10:51she's ever really thought about is a key aspect of her identity.
- 10:54Usually, even the highest sex drive women will usually feel
- 10:58awkward or shy about certain aspects of their body or about
- 11:03certain aspects of sex or About certain act, they'll feel
- 11:07reticent and to think that there are all these women that don't
- 11:12that is just crazy. I mean, that's just literally
- 11:16out of porn. It's like the equivalent of if
- 11:18your wife watched a lot of romantic movies and thought that
- 11:22there are like guys who are always sweet and chivalrous and
- 11:27generous and loving like every second and I never act like an
- 11:32asshole, like that would be as per her.
- 11:35She has a myth as this idea that there do exist, women who are
- 11:39always ready to go and who are always down to explore.
- 11:44And just, you know, talk about sex just like they're talking
- 11:47about, you know, you know, go to the hair salon and same
- 11:50casualness. Like that's really nothing that
- 11:53I've seen. And I've, I've been a woman for
- 11:55a long time and interacted with women and I've been in therapy
- 12:00with couples for doing therapy with couples for.
- 12:03I don't know. Now, since In 2009 and it just
- 12:09doesn't happen. So, if you are somebody, who's
- 12:12allowed yourself to think that there are these other guys like
- 12:15that are in such a much better situation than you.
- 12:17Yeah, for sure there are all, there's a whole, you know,
- 12:21normal distribution of how women responded sex and I have lots of
- 12:25Articles and stuff about like ways to tell that your partner
- 12:28will never be that into sex and sexless marriages, certainly
- 12:31like if you're not having sex at all, if your wife refuses to
- 12:34ever talk, About sex like if she's disgusted if she's
- 12:38squeamish but put off by everything if like she doesn't
- 12:41like any noises or sounds or touches or kissing or like I've
- 12:45talked about all this kind of thing then.
- 12:47Yeah. Like then you are in a bad spot
- 12:49and I've tried to tell you ways to maybe work on some of that
- 12:53stuff. But the more likely situation a
- 12:56situation that I'm seeing more now, is women that do respond
- 13:00positively to the man initiating, sometimes they
- 13:03initiate like if they've had it. Glass of wine.
- 13:06They may initiate or if they're ovulating but they're positive.
- 13:09When the guy ever see initiates. They do do a variety of things
- 13:13in bed. Yeah they may want the light
- 13:15off. Yeah.
- 13:16They may want to wear like lingerie eggs.
- 13:18They're not super comfortable with their bodies but overall
- 13:23they do Make Some Noise, they say something sometimes and like
- 13:27I feel like a lot of the women like that that are really kind
- 13:31of good dipping and game you know ich within the Traits of a
- 13:35monogamous relationship for a normal woman.
- 13:38Those women are being like, put into the bucket of women who are
- 13:43literally, like, get off me, don't touch me, sex is not
- 13:45important to me, you're a disgusting animal.
- 13:47That is really not good, you know, because that means that
- 13:51the average man thinks that there is like these like literal
- 13:54sex kittens that are out there. They're making themselves and
- 13:58their wives miserable and not really appreciating the sex life
- 14:01that they do have, which is pretty good, you know.
- 14:04So if If you are a guy I think that is listening to this and
- 14:08that has frequently thought they that your sex life sucks.
- 14:11Well, if you're having sex like at least like once a week and
- 14:15she is happy and she smiles she doesn't think that there's a
- 14:19real problem. She has an orgasm you feel like
- 14:22you can bring things up you know at least half the time you might
- 14:26be able to you know do something that is exciting to you.
- 14:31Even if the other half the time, it is the same old stuff then
- 14:34like your In like maybe a better situation than you think it's
- 14:38like, I say the guys like they'll be like, well, I don't
- 14:40want women to have, you know, responsive desire.
- 14:43I'm like, well, do you want to be a heterosexual guy cuz like
- 14:45that's what women are. You know, they have responsive
- 14:48desire, they don't have spontaneous desire generally.
- 14:51So if you're looking for a woman who has sexual desire the same
- 14:53as you dumb, you know, you're a man.
- 14:56So, I mean go for a man, but you if you go for a woman, these are
- 14:59how women are, this is how women are going to be.
- 15:01So overall, net net, I think that you really need as A man if
- 15:05you have ever used porn to excess which would mean daily
- 15:10near-daily Etc. And if you do a deep dive and
- 15:13you introspected, you think that really poor, and if now that you
- 15:16think about it really has influence how you view women,
- 15:21which it's almost, it's almost impossible for it.
- 15:22Not to. If you, if you watch it seems
- 15:25it's impossible for women. Not to think that men are more
- 15:27romantic after they watch romantic movies and most women
- 15:29don't watch romantic movies every single.
- 15:31Fuck a night of their teenage and young 20s years and the old
- 15:35That young 30s, an old 30s to go to sleep, you know, I mean, so
- 15:39it's different, but anyhow it would, if they if they did then
- 15:44they would certainly think that Prince Charming is going to come
- 15:46sweep them off their feet. The same as you think that
- 15:49there's the men that are in your workplace, that in the middle of
- 15:53their Zoom calls or just fending off, you know, like attack
- 15:56blowjobs by their wives who can barely control themselves, that
- 15:59shit isn't real. So, you know, think deeply about
- 16:04how porn it has influence the way that you think about women's
- 16:09lack of inhibition because they are inhibited.
- 16:12Like they are you know even the most uninhibited woman that like
- 16:17in unless she's like a sex worker and she is getting paid
- 16:21to act on inhibited. The majority of women are
- 16:23inhibited about something somewhere and that's like
- 16:27totally normal. Is it?
- 16:30Is it your ideal? No.
- 16:32Are you her ideal know? I'm sure you do a lot of
- 16:36annoying shit. So you try to take like a stamp
- 16:39stand back a little bit. And think what really am?
- 16:42I comparing my wife to an is it fair?
- 16:44My comparing her to, you know, a happy loving woman who does, you
- 16:51know, a lot of what I asked and has some hard stops or am I
- 16:56comparing her to a literal porn star, and, or amateur porn, hot
- 17:02wife, whatever the fuck, you know?
- 17:05So think about it and I leave you to the thought experiment
- 17:08and really every single man who has ever watched porn a lot,
- 17:14should literally take a piece of paper and write out what are
- 17:16things I learned from porn about women and then you should go
- 17:20through them and be like, which of these are useful and good and
- 17:24which of them are poisoning the way that I think about women,
- 17:27and potentially destroying my marriage and or making it
- 17:30difficult for me to get into a relationship.
- 17:34All right? So that's It's useful until I
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